Hey, thanks for the heads up on that ground bolt. I can see that being an easy mistake that Id make too. I was surprised the new PCM was only $300. Not cheap but not crazy expensive.
Duuuude. That sucks! I made the same mistake by checking fuses while the Jeep was running by getting ahead of myself haha OBVIOUS no-no. Still don’t know what I was thinking
Those PCM's are touchy. I was putting in a radio and had unhooked my battery, plugged it back in once i was done with he install and i fried mine as well. Towed it to a Stealership and they looked at it and said radio was hooked up right and weren't sure how it blew either. Lucky for you the JK's have been around for a while and they now have refurbished ones!
I still dont know what friend the PCM in my 2013. I deployed for a few months, jeep was stored in my shop with a Battery Tender on the optima yellow top. When I got home, I found that the charger was blinking as if it were trying to charge which was strange as it had been charging for 3 months. Battery was totally dead. Replaced the battery and when I try to start it the fan went to full blast and everything was lighting up. The anti theft light was on, so I had a new key made. Same result. Ordered a new PCM and it worked. That yellow top still works, but it is now powering my trailer and I wont be putting it in anything important.
Bummer, anytime you do anything electrical, not only don't have it running but disconnect the battery! Heck these computers control almost everything in modern vehicles, even ESD electrostatic discharge can take them out. It's unfortunate but sometimes we learn the hard way. Have a Merry Christmas and enjoy your down time.
I work for mopar as well & have a JK... yeah, don't get an aftermarket pcm... they're always crap... lol...pcm btw is powertrain control module & ecm is electronic control module, they're not the same, you have 1 pcm and many ecms... just a little clarification on the difference... anyway, sorry to hear but hey, it's a learning experience right?... Merry Christmas to you and yours...
I killed my computer just over a year ago. I washed my engine and everything under the hood and apparently was a bit too aggressive in my spraying and blew water into the connections. I CANNOT believe Jeep would make it so vulnerable to water! Of course we all wash under the hood after off-roading and getting muddy!
I washed under the hood once and when I got in to fire it up, click, nothing. I got into the engine bay and towel dried every connection, click nothing. Disconnected my positive and negative leads at the battery, touched them together, put them back on and it fired up right away. Manual computer reset.😁
Don't be sorry ITS CHRISTMAS!!. That totally sucks about the your Jeep but thanks for letting us know on what not to lol. Again Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and cant wait for the next video
It sucks that it happened man but I'm glad you're able to stay positive about it and still put out a video that could potentially help someone else from going thru the same thing. It's crazy how complicated vehicle electronics can get. My wife had someone give her Subaru Outback a jump start and it fried the ABS module somehow so I feel your pain... Take your time off and enjoy that beautiful family at Christmas, these clowns can go back and watch reruns if they really need to haha... Merry Christmas!
@@JKGearandGadgets Yeah man, battery died and someone hooked up cables like normal to jump it, fried the ABS module and it was about $1500 to replace. We ended up trading that joker in...
I tried swapping my fog lights on my 07 Compass. HID polarity was reversed, and after installing the HIDs, the jeep wouldn't start, odometer saying "no buS". Jeep wouldn't even crank. Bluetooth OBD scan tool wouldn't even communicate with the jeep. After a few hours of searching, a post recommended disconnecting the battery cable, and tieing them together for ten minutes. Once I reconnected the battery cables to the battery and tried to start the jeep and to my freaking surprise it actually started. Rebooting the PCM really worked for me.
Merry Christmas ! Thanks for sharing your experience . Im usually pretty conscientious when working with electronics , but i wouldve never guessed the computer was that fragile .....
Man, that SUCKS! We have all done stupid things that have cost us $$$ and like you in this case, it always seems to be something we know better to do. A quick momentary lack in judgement or a rush to get something done and boom.... there goes $400! Sucks but the Cherokee JK lives to drive another day!
Always a good idea to disconnect the battery ground if welding on the vehicle. If welding close to ECM, PCM, TCM, etc., I will disconnect that too so there no chance of frying the sensitive electronics.
Thanks for the heads up...my S-switch just came in, going to consider finding a different ground point for it..love all of your videos...merry Christmas
Randy's Computer is going to be so pissed that you mentioned his slow warranty process. If he didn't live in his mom's basement with her 20 cats, you might have to worry about his lawyer.
Bummer! Thanks for enlightening us on that one simple ground wire, that can definitely ruin your day.. It's an honest mistake that anyone could have dealt with.. Sorry it was you! Did you consider getting an "unlocked" pm from Superchips? Just for the tuning potential 😉
How could u Ben !!! Lol. U definitely seen like you know better though, shit happens to all of us. Props to you sharing your f ups with all of the interweb. 👍we are only human.and I think it’s a good thing getting the pcm from the dealer. They have to flash it to the Jeep too so makes more sense , and MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone !!!
I had to bypass my tj's computer control for the fuel pump and the injectors in order to get it to run. When cold, it runs very poorly and the radio, and instruments turn on and off as the engine is reved up to before a shift. Once the engine gets warm, it seems to run great. But when I turn it off, the engine keeps running a few seconds longer and sputters to a stop. It beats having to buy an expensive computer, for now. But it is only an improvised bypass.
That sucks, thanks for sharing!!! The shitty part is that this happened right before XMas, always the way it works. I appreciate you fixing your own Jeep, not that you can’t use a mechanic for major shit but real Jeepers wrench on their own Shit!!!
Good to know about the ground wire. That sucks blowing a pcm. I had a short in my wiring between the pcm and ignition coil that blew 3 pcms and 3 ignition coils before I found it. Let us know if there is anything else you need to do after you install it. I had my dealership flash it for me after I had some issues and actually threw a code for a PCM vin mismatch. Merry Christmas!
Mine went bad when my transmission was getting replaced thankfully it was under warranty. Might have been because it was under 100k miles. Ohhh no trash can bandit!
Bad luck man (insert your favorite sad face here). Did something similar to my 91 Vette!. Yeah, try finding a PCM for that thing! Looking forward to the Barnes vid. Have a very Merry Christmas! Or to be PC, Chrismahanukwanzakah!
You can find ECMs on Car-Part. You just need to call the salvage yard that has it and make sure it was tested and has a warranty. Also, most salvage yards will sell a small parts lifetime warranty for around 10 bucks, so, something to think about to keep you away from the dealers.
Managed to fry mine too and I'm on my 3rd TIPM as well. If you have a '15-18 JK I'd recommend upgrading to the Diablo Sport PCM w/ tuner. FYI...got my sticker the other day, needless to say I didn't win but at least I got a navy blue sticker which just happens to match my rig! Enjoy your Yuletide Ben!
Sorry this happened to you......but it happens to the best of us :) Merry Christmas to you and yours and maybe Santa will have a little something under the tree for you.
My Ram had a short and it fried the TIPM which Jeeps have as well and those are very expensive to replace. They had a bad batch for a few years the Grand Cherokees had a recall on them.
That is sad but for this info...would have never guessed that. Why wouldn’t they have ground through the case? Seems like a bad configuration. Enjoy your time off and I hope to hear from you around the 27th. Fingers crossed. Merry Christmas to you and yours!!!
Do you have the recycling bin that is just a tad smaller than the garbage can that is on wheels? The garbage truck is notorious around here to accidentally dropping the can in the back while dumping. Their policy prevents them from getting it back out and they are never considerate to let you know or even order you a new one.
Hmm, yeah someone must have stole it. 😡 I’ve worked a couple burglaries where the suspect fills the garbage can with stolen stuff and walks off with it. Hopefully that didn’t happen.
its a tipm didnt realize it was mispelled 😂😂dont mind me i didnt watch the whole vid and thought you were having the problem I had wich cost me like 700 to replace. thats what happens when you drink and PC 😂😂 come take a look at my rig on IG @Danzway 👍👍
Feliz Navidad and a Happy New Year 2019 to you and your family.... thank you for all the nice videos and i'm sorry that your Jeep Computer was burned.... enjoy your trip and have Fun...
I have a 2015 jk, Can I unlock the pcm and re-program the fans to start at 180 degree ? Let me know please beacause I live in PR and a lot of hills and avereage temps from 86-97
Know this is old video. I have a ? about the ecu you got from the dealership. Is it plug and play after you get it from them. I need to replace my soon do to no heated circuit for the o2. Thanks. Hope your move is going great
Hey, thanks for the heads up on that ground bolt. I can see that being an easy mistake that Id make too. I was surprised the new PCM was only $300. Not cheap but not crazy expensive.
Yeah same here, they have came down in price over the years luckily
@@JKGearandGadgets The expenses come from paying for it to be programmed !!
Duuuude. That sucks! I made the same mistake by checking fuses while the Jeep was running by getting ahead of myself haha OBVIOUS no-no. Still don’t know what I was thinking
The simplest things bite us in the butt 🤦🏻♂️
Those PCM's are touchy. I was putting in a radio and had unhooked my battery, plugged it back in once i was done with he install and i fried mine as well. Towed it to a Stealership and they looked at it and said radio was hooked up right and weren't sure how it blew either. Lucky for you the JK's have been around for a while and they now have refurbished ones!
Did it run with the bad pcm
#BringBackBensRecyclingCan
I still dont know what friend the PCM in my 2013. I deployed for a few months, jeep was stored in my shop with a Battery Tender on the optima yellow top. When I got home, I found that the charger was blinking as if it were trying to charge which was strange as it had been charging for 3 months. Battery was totally dead. Replaced the battery and when I try to start it the fan went to full blast and everything was lighting up. The anti theft light was on, so I had a new key made. Same result. Ordered a new PCM and it worked. That yellow top still works, but it is now powering my trailer and I wont be putting it in anything important.
Bummer, anytime you do anything electrical, not only don't have it running but disconnect the battery! Heck these computers control almost everything in modern vehicles, even ESD electrostatic discharge can take them out. It's unfortunate but sometimes we learn the hard way. Have a Merry Christmas and enjoy your down time.
I work for mopar as well & have a JK... yeah, don't get an aftermarket pcm... they're always crap... lol...pcm btw is powertrain control module & ecm is electronic control module, they're not the same, you have 1 pcm and many ecms... just a little clarification on the difference... anyway, sorry to hear but hey, it's a learning experience right?... Merry Christmas to you and yours...
'It's You Tube.... Shit happens!' I love it!. Merry Christnas to you too bro. Give us an update when the new 'computer' is installed. Happy New Year.
I killed my computer just over a year ago. I washed my engine and everything under the hood and apparently was a bit too aggressive in my spraying and blew water into the connections. I CANNOT believe Jeep would make it so vulnerable to water! Of course we all wash under the hood after off-roading and getting muddy!
I pressure wash under the hood of mine every week... Never had an issue.
I washed under the hood once and when I got in to fire it up, click, nothing. I got into the engine bay and towel dried every connection, click nothing. Disconnected my positive and negative leads at the battery, touched them together, put them back on and it fired up right away. Manual computer reset.😁
Phil Wall I’ll have to look that one up!
Don't be sorry ITS CHRISTMAS!!. That totally sucks about the your Jeep but thanks for letting us know on what not to lol. Again Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and cant wait for the next video
It sucks that it happened man but I'm glad you're able to stay positive about it and still put out a video that could potentially help someone else from going thru the same thing. It's crazy how complicated vehicle electronics can get. My wife had someone give her Subaru Outback a jump start and it fried the ABS module somehow so I feel your pain... Take your time off and enjoy that beautiful family at Christmas, these clowns can go back and watch reruns if they really need to haha... Merry Christmas!
All from a jump?? That sucks
@@JKGearandGadgets Yeah man, battery died and someone hooked up cables like normal to jump it, fried the ABS module and it was about $1500 to replace. We ended up trading that joker in...
I tried swapping my fog lights on my 07 Compass. HID polarity was reversed, and after installing the HIDs, the jeep wouldn't start, odometer saying "no buS". Jeep wouldn't even crank. Bluetooth OBD scan tool wouldn't even communicate with the jeep. After a few hours of searching, a post recommended disconnecting the battery cable, and tieing them together for ten minutes. Once I reconnected the battery cables to the battery and tried to start the jeep and to my freaking surprise it actually started. Rebooting the PCM really worked for me.
Merry Christmas ! Thanks for sharing your experience . Im usually pretty conscientious when working with electronics , but i wouldve never guessed the computer was that fragile .....
Man, that SUCKS! We have all done stupid things that have cost us $$$ and like you in this case, it always seems to be something we know better to do. A quick momentary lack in judgement or a rush to get something done and boom.... there goes $400! Sucks but the Cherokee JK lives to drive another day!
I got my sticker yesterday. Was soooo excited opening it up only to find the sticker. Womp Womp! Congrats to the winner!
Thanks for entering man! I wish I could have had more people win, but you know how it is 😔
That sucks. Tough break this close to the holidays. Hope you get back on the road soon!
Always a good idea to disconnect the battery ground if welding on the vehicle. If welding close to ECM, PCM, TCM, etc., I will disconnect that too so there no chance of frying the sensitive electronics.
Merry Christmas to you.
Sorry this happened to you. Enjoy your family and thanks for making us Jeep family these great videos.
thanks for the heads up on the groundwire
Best line ever! 7:13
But hey there's that break we were talking about last week 😂😂😂 funny how shit works
Electric sway bar disconnect shorted out and burned up my cam bus and my pcm in my 08 Rubicon so feel your pain
So sorry JKGG, it could happen to any of us. Sucks at Christmas time when you already have extra expenses.
When something like that happens to me, I chalk it up to a "Learning Experience" and normally don't make that mistake again.
Thanks for the heads up...my S-switch just came in, going to consider finding a different ground point for it..love all of your videos...merry Christmas
I would still use that ground! Just don’t take it off when the engine is running 😂
Thanks for sharing so we can prevent others from cooking their PCMs :-)
Randy's Computer is going to be so pissed that you mentioned his slow warranty process. If he didn't live in his mom's basement with her 20 cats, you might have to worry about his lawyer.
Don't blame yourself, blame Bud light. 😂😂😂 But sorry that happened.
What a busssttttt, maybe the wife will gift you a new pcm for Christmas.
Bummer! Thanks for enlightening us on that one simple ground wire, that can definitely ruin your day.. It's an honest mistake that anyone could have dealt with.. Sorry it was you! Did you consider getting an "unlocked" pm from Superchips? Just for the tuning potential 😉
Since mine is a 2010 I don’t even have that option I’m pretty sure lol
@@JKGearandGadgets ah gotcha. Either way, glad you're sorted out 👍
How could u Ben !!! Lol. U definitely seen like you know better though, shit happens to all of us. Props to you sharing your f ups with all of the interweb. 👍we are only human.and I think it’s a good thing getting the pcm from the dealer. They have to flash it to the Jeep too so makes more sense , and MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone !!!
Merry Christmas! Sorry it happened but thanks for sharing to remind us!
Keep up the good mood bro!
Family and hollydays is more important than UA-cam!
- Kev from Quebec!
Sorry for the problem, but have a Merry Christmas! Thanks for a good channel
Sorry to hear about the bad luck. Hopefully your luck will turn around. Merry Christmas and have a good vacation.
I had to bypass my tj's computer control for the fuel pump and the injectors in order to get it to run. When cold, it runs very poorly and the radio, and instruments turn on and off as the engine is reved up to before a shift. Once the engine gets warm, it seems to run great. But when I turn it off, the engine keeps running a few seconds longer and sputters to a stop. It beats having to buy an expensive computer, for now. But it is only an improvised bypass.
That sucks, thanks for sharing!!! The shitty part is that this happened right before XMas, always the way it works. I appreciate you fixing your own Jeep, not that you can’t use a mechanic for major shit but real Jeepers wrench on their own Shit!!!
That sucks. Great lesson for everyone else. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
Bummer for sure.... Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday's to you, Cassie and the twins.. Sammie
Good to know about the ground wire. That sucks blowing a pcm. I had a short in my wiring between the pcm and ignition coil that blew 3 pcms and 3 ignition coils before I found it. Let us know if there is anything else you need to do after you install it. I had my dealership flash it for me after I had some issues and actually threw a code for a PCM vin mismatch. Merry Christmas!
I bought my 3rd Jeep, a used 13 Rubicon. I appreciate your videos and insight. Great stuff.
Thats sucks my guy, but i can't even say nothing because im guilty of doing this the 3rd month into owning my jeep
Well glad tht piece ain’t to expensive to fix 🤙
I have an 09, so yeh, i'm paying attention. Thank you and Merry Christmas!
I got the wrong ticket man. :D Was supposed to be an axle. Congratulations Scott. Merry Christmas. Quick recovery!
Thanks for sharing
Sad day Ben , hopefully you can get the jeep up and running soon. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!
I’m new to the Jeep community. And it good to hear about what NOT to do. Thanks
Mine went bad when my transmission was getting replaced thankfully it was under warranty. Might have been because it was under 100k miles. Ohhh no trash can bandit!
Bad luck man (insert your favorite sad face here). Did something similar to my 91 Vette!. Yeah, try finding a PCM for that thing! Looking forward to the Barnes vid. Have a very Merry Christmas! Or to be PC, Chrismahanukwanzakah!
another great video. Sorry for your loose (computer). Merry Christmas
You can find ECMs on Car-Part. You just need to call the salvage yard that has it and make sure it was tested and has a warranty. Also, most salvage yards will sell a small parts lifetime warranty for around 10 bucks, so, something to think about to keep you away from the dealers.
I thought of that, but then I’d still have to send it out to get reflashed to clear the vin
Managed to fry mine too and I'm on my 3rd TIPM as well. If you have a '15-18 JK I'd recommend upgrading to the Diablo Sport PCM w/ tuner. FYI...got my sticker the other day, needless to say I didn't win but at least I got a navy blue sticker which just happens to match my rig! Enjoy your Yuletide Ben!
TIPMs suck as well 🤦🏻♂️
That sucks at least you didn’t sink it like crawl tv. Merry Christmas
Ouch! Hope all fixes well.
Sorry to hear you burned it up but at least it a some what easy fix. Merry Christmas Ben
Hey man sorry the PCM fried. Thanks for another video and hope you and your family have a very Merry Christmas.
Dude! That sucks, but you live and you learn.
Merry CHRISTMAS to you too!
Yea, that blows. Merry Christmas!!
That really sucks! But, thanks for the video as I did learn a couple of things!
Sorry this happened to you......but it happens to the best of us :) Merry Christmas to you and yours and maybe Santa will have a little something under the tree for you.
I LOVE it Merry Xmas... Shit happens Its UA-cam ....Merry Christmas Too You and Yours Bro
Wow! Sorry that really sucks. But now i know the danger area! Enjoy your break!
My Ram had a short and it fried the TIPM which Jeeps have as well and those are very expensive to replace. They had a bad batch for a few years the Grand Cherokees had a recall on them.
Ask Barnes why they don’t make rock sliders for the 2dr jk yet
Will do!
while your there can you pick up my Aluminium tie rod? lol
Oh shit! Bet you were pissed. I know you'll get it going very soon. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
That is sad but for this info...would have never guessed that. Why wouldn’t they have ground through the case? Seems like a bad configuration.
Enjoy your time off and I hope to hear from you around the 27th. Fingers crossed.
Merry Christmas to you and yours!!!
Good bit of advice buddy thx
I hate to say it like this Ben but D.A. Lol. Have a merry and safe Christmas .
So sorry to hear about your Jeep Ben. It happens. Merry Christmas to you too!
Hope you get it fixed soon
Sounds like my luck. Lol. Love your videos. Very informative. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas man! I appreciate your videos, and hope your break reenergizes you.
Merry Christmas Ben. Enjoy your vacation
Do you have the recycling bin that is just a tad smaller than the garbage can that is on wheels? The garbage truck is notorious around here to accidentally dropping the can in the back while dumping. Their policy prevents them from getting it back out and they are never considerate to let you know or even order you a new one.
Yep, but the weird thing is that when I got home it was at the street emptied.. so I have no idea what happened to it 😂
Hmm, yeah someone must have stole it. 😡 I’ve worked a couple burglaries where the suspect fills the garbage can with stolen stuff and walks off with it. Hopefully that didn’t happen.
Merry Christmas! Sounds like your luck is as good as mine!!
Merry Christmas Man! Sorry to hear about your jeep
Merry Christmas bro, and thanks for a chance to win that axle, just wish it would've been me that won it lol.
Very valuable info!
Bummer bud! Merry Christmas to you and the family. Safe travels.
I was really hoping you were going to say you were welding with the battery hooked up.
I’ve done that a couple of times and it’s been fine lol
Merry Christmas brother. Good luck with your jeep next year.
Got a sticker yesterday... excited to have it on my Jeep as well. Merry Christmas bro!
The FICM to be exact👍👍😂
Haha what is a FICM?
its a tipm didnt realize it was mispelled 😂😂dont mind me i didnt watch the whole vid and thought you were having the problem I had wich cost me like 700 to replace. thats what happens when you drink and PC 😂😂 come take a look at my rig on IG @Danzway 👍👍
Happy New Year Ben! Sorry this happened before your trip but thanks for sharing. Keep up the great, and informative videos.
I’m just getting back into jeeping and really like your videos thx for all the good info.
That Sucks Hopefully you can fix it soon
Merry Christmas Ben 🎄 Enjoy your vacation 😎
No one wants extra repairs this time of year :( Merry Christmas
Feliz Navidad and a Happy New Year 2019 to you and your family.... thank you for all the nice videos and i'm sorry that your Jeep Computer was burned.... enjoy your trip and have Fun...
Thanks. Great video and info. Merry Christmas!
I have a 2015 jk, Can I unlock the pcm and re-program the fans to start at 180 degree ? Let me know please beacause I live in PR and a lot of hills and avereage temps from 86-97
I am honestly not sure about that. The 2015s have a tricky pcm. However I would look at getting a hood louver to let some of the underhood heat out
Seen one other guy smoke his computer that hidden battery is just plain stupid
Merry Xmas brah, safe travels to you & Happy New Year to all!!!! Enjoy the time off 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
At least it’s not heavy?
Know this is old video. I have a ? about the ecu you got from the dealership. Is it plug and play after you get it from them. I need to replace my soon do to no heated circuit for the o2. Thanks. Hope your move is going great
Good Christmas sir🎄. Enjoy the time off. Love your videos.