Kurt Angle on the Murder of Dave Schultz by John du Pont (Foxcatcher)
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2014
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Kurt Angle speaks on the murder of Olympic Gold Medalist Dave Schultz by John du Pont at Foxcatcher in 1996. In the new film "Foxcatcher", du Pont is portrayed by Steve Carell, with Mark Ruffalo portraying Dave Schultz, and Channing Tatum as Dave's brother, Mark Schultz.
Read more about du Pont's erratic behaviour here: www.people.com/people/archive/...
I think it’s hard to blame any of the wrestlers for anything.
The movie Foxcatcher actually did a great job showing the poverty that many Olympic athletes go through.
I think that’s what can lead to people ignoring Red Flags.
Foxcatcher might be the trippiest real story I've ever heard of.
If it wasn't true it be a weird movie
Emo Ray Torres , my father tells me story’s about foxcatcher and his friend was one of the wrestlers for fox catcher, and every time I hear them I get chills
@@emoraytorres6842 what's the documentary called?
Liam Haydn Prince of Pennsylvania
I agreed until joe exotic came into my life lol.
Kurt's a good man
how do you know?
kakashi76767 How do you know? Really? Give me one person that has a bad word to say about Kurt Angle. Sure, we don't know him, but since he seems like a very nice guy on interviews and according to people he dealt with it is VERY likely that he is a good man.
Daniel Puder...lol i'm jk. that guy was a prick. I've always had a lot of respect for Kurt Angle
You're not
Ya maybe but Harvey Weinstein isn't! What's up with that?
Love seeing Kurt happy and healthy . Mans been through a lot and never shows it
Is he healthy? Dude looks like leather man these days
Amen to that
niggaaa he was high here wtf u talkin bout 😂😂😂😂
@Taylorlee404 fact. This vid was 10 years ago or so he was on some serious shit back then
@@Taylorlee404 bro I was high af when I left that comment lmao
The truth is stranger than fiction
The 30 for 30 on Foxcatcher was insane and so well done
Dave Schultz was the absolute best wrestler and person
Nice to see big guys who use their brain as well as their brawn.
The stereotype of the big dumb muscle head is just that.
"Came at him with a machine gun. I think that was the sign"
Well no effing shitz
How is he using his brain lol
I think the stereotype arises from the fact that many really smart people have zero athletic ability, so they made meme that big athletic people must be dumb because they were jealous. It's def not true. You have to be intelligent to be a good wrestler
@@jjmarcos that stereotype was definitely before memes became a thing...
@@jjmarcos The stereotype exists through observation.
The FBI gave him 4 days to surrender? Must be nice to have that kind of money.
Intensity, Integrity, Insanity :(
Dark Side of the Ring should do an episode on this with a Kurt Angle interview
For what reason? DSOTR is professional wrestling based
@@jacemacfie1475you could do it on Kurt’s drug abuse problem and how many wrestlers get hooked on pain pills and soon
Develop tolerances that makes the Wrestlers take more and more and they don’t heal up because they keep
Pushing…
I know Gene Mills (high schools’ rival’s head coach) and from what I remember, he literally had a hate for Steve Carrell because Steve played John so well. He was both enraged and in awe of Steve’s performance.
I met Gene Mills at a wrestling camp back in 91. That dude was full of energy.
Steven Carnell acted like shit, so stfu lmao that story is not true
I spent 6 years training at the gym he taught wrestling at and the guy is a straight up grappling encyclopedia.
Wait... When John du Pont cornered one of the wrestlers with a machine gun, that's when they all "PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE" decided to leave or get du Pont help?
You mean help, like 20 boots to the teeth right?
It’s a difficult situation. All those wrestlers were being paid and lived on the property with their families. It’s easy to see the danger from hindsight, but at the time they rationalized out of desperation. Where else would these guys go, who had nothing but their wrestling skills to feed their families.
@@StannisTheMannis305 Also, a lot of people are peculiar, but one does not jump to "Yes, this person could murder me."
@@StannisTheMannis305 Exactly. Most don't seem to understand what those guys were dealing with. When you've got a family & really only 1 option to provide, you tend to take it alongside any issues a bit more willingly than if you had other means
@@WSK9002Very true. Although, after the machine gun, I'm definitely thinking "this person could murder me."
One of my old instructors when I was in the police academy was one of the members of the task force that got John DuPont. He said you wouldn't believe the stuff that John Dupont had when they had to search his property. I think one of the things he had was some type of Armored Transport kind of like a half a tank with a Gatling gun on it.
Very believable considering he wasn't wrapped too tight
@@briannadaylon90 apparently they had shut off his Heat to get him to come out and when he did come out he appeared to be completely oblivious to the fact that there are about 150 people on his front lawn waiting for him but I guess that is understandable because when it came to John Dupont law enforcement was a joke that man got to do literally anything he wanted.
Hey Mate where abouts do You police?
@@WADE_WILSON_XFORCE I don't anymore. Now I am a correctional officer.
@@tempo1889 John Du Pont was cooked
Kurt has had an interesting life
Pointing a machine gun at someone and threatening them with violence.....
"I guess that should have been our sign....."
No shit.
Its crazy that Steve Carrel played DuPont so good, the last guy I would have though to do that role.
GhostOfRhurValley 1945
Actually no. John du Pont was a monster but Steve Carrell did not capture him at all
@@oRealAlieNohow many people do you think actually met DuPont AND saw the movie? Considering it’s hardly any compared to how many people saw the film, I’d say it’s more important to make the story and character compelling. Rather than to try to capture and act out a facsimile of a real person. Especially when no one is going to know if you got it right or not except for a very small group of people.
@@ballisticcranberrypeat7777 I watched the john dupont interviews and even his wrestling match. Steve Carrell did not pull it off.
@@oRealAlieNo If you say so, personally I think an actor can still do a good job without pantomiming someone’s speech patterns and mannerisms and basically doing an impression for an entire film. Especially when it’s someone who has a relatively low profile and had the height of their infamy decades earlier. Most people don’t know the difference, and I’m sure I can’t be the only who did know the difference and didn’t care. I’m sure you’re not the only one who thought he didn’t pull it off either though.
I thought that the documentary Team Foxcatcher was better than the movie.
Andrew Grant I agree
Both excellent in their own right. But as ones a film and ones a documentary they will be different and not really comparable.
Real is always better than fantasy
Documentaries are fascinating but the movie is a masterpiece
Respectable but just want you to keep in mind that even tho the film is indeed based on this very true story, they will still inevitably make small initial changes, it just matters that they capture the vision of what really happened, execution of the concept is all that matters.
Scary how much Angle nails the last couple of weeks of foxcatcher
They left a lot of details out of the movie.. Like the machine gun incident.. Seems important don't know why they didn't put it in
Because it had nothing to do with the Schultz's I'm assuming
Watch the documentary they have on Netflix, has a lot of things that were left out, in it.
Legal stuff I suppose, did you not hear during the interview that Du Point was being sued...
MichaelMick The story is mainly revolves around Mark Schultz and his time at foxcatcher and his relationship with Dupont
It is really tough to get a wrestling gold medal in the Olympics. Many country's have good wrestling programs , I give respect to anyone incding Kurt who medal in this event
not when half the eastern block dosent show up.the olympics in 84 was not a true olympics .it was boycoted. thats a fact .it wasnt a true championship of the best in the world the same as montreal. its a shame but it is what it is
You have to show up and prove you are the best in the world. Those Olympics are ligit. People boycott, get injuries can't afford to go etc... so the Olympics are not ligit? BS. Plus we now know that the east block was heavily doping their athletes in their state run programs so are they really the best on their own merits? Historians say probably not without cheating.
+Daryl Millard Can you explain more on that? Were the best wrestlers from Europe not there?
no not all of them. eastern block countrys were not at the 84 olympics
Daryl Millard neither was angle. Plus he won his "with a broken frickin neck"
thank you for uploading
I just found this out today. I'm only 22. But damn r.i.p. his Interviews were gold
A very insightful and pragmatic perspective from Kurt!
Great interview
I remember this vaguely...i was in 3rd grade and we were going on a school trip to the du Pont museum and my dad didn't like my school having us go there he said the guy was a killer...i think this was late 1996 early 97.
The bodyguard should of run around the car and got the gun,Dave would still be alive
Or there would have been 2 bodies
i dont know what foxcatcher is. never heard of it til now. i remember when this happened though, vaguely. i went to elementary school with daves kids in newtown square, PA. i didnt know them though. i remember the FBI standoff was a block from our school. pretty sure we had off from school while it took place. and one day at school, the whole school spent a day making cards for his kids. rough to lose your dad like that.
the 90s were a crazy time.
Did you go to Colbertson? I went to Malvern and my bus made a daily stop at Colbertson. I was there that day too.
Vince McMahon saw this video and told Kurt Angle "YOU'RE FIIIIIIIIIIIRED!!"
kurt angle would of made a good ufc fighter
sure but at his time he was getting good money in the wwf. the option of ufc was not atractive for him.
He would have dominated. UFC gets low end athletes.
The timing was not there for him… now a days, he probably does go to MMA, but Angle was a great pro wrestler
@@redrick8900Low end athletes 😂, you probably can't do five pushups.
@@darensparks Pushups aren't very athletic.
Damn Kurt gave the whole scoop
Yo, a lot of people in the comments are getting Dave Shultz confused with the WWF wrestler "Dr. D" David Schultz that slapped John Stossel. 2 very different people. "Dr. D" David Schultz the WWF wrestler is still alive.
Dont see anyone getting confused but you, there talking about kurt being in the wwe .
Great interview. Dave would have been an amazing coach for team USA. Instead his w wife and kids lost him forever.
Man this sucks.
You’re telling me he pull a machine gun on one of y’all and you all stayed after that?? Tf
People tend to stick with whatever their comfortable at for the time being. If you build a whole empire, and you do a few stupid things, everyone isn’t going to bounce, simultaneously. Especially whenever there is manipulation, black mailing, and deceiving going on.
@@jeremiah.a4891 someone ever pulls a gun on me, for whatever reason, I’m removing that person from my life forever. That’s just me thoigh
Wow..Never heard this before..looks like I'll be watching the movie ASAP
Do it, it's a brilliant movie
The 30 for 30 is also very good…
why was there a ufc ppv in the movie foxcatcher it wasnt around til 93 and after all this happend
Bob Wessling Dave Schultz was killed in 96
Pawel G I think he's talking about the scene where the whole team is watching UFC when Gary goodridge had his first fight. That was in '96 at UFC 8 but in the movie they were watching it before the '88 Olympics. Trivia fact, in the end of Foxcatcher when he steps in the cage, his opponent I'm real life was Gary Goodridge. Maybe when the team was watching it it was a cue or homage to the guy Mark Schultz actually fought after Dave died.
So mad I never knew anything about this before the film. So shocked when he killed him.
Kurt raised his game at Clarion wrestling for Foxcatcher while in college. Dave was the man!
Thats exactly how it happend in the movie, just saw fox catcher last night for the first time.
kurt is my favorite wwf stat i don't watch it a lot but when i see him in he is a great actor super funny and can probably beat up 99% of them guys in a real fight
He was one of the best characters when he went to the WWF/E.
How was so funny of course his wrestling was superior.
Plus I’m sure he made a lot of money doing it. Much more, I would imagine, than to continue as an amateur.
Reading out of the plastic; don't take it for granted; like an million bucks-,I just fob throw it;
You're awesome Kurt
Hearing an death physically;
I remember seeing Dave Schultz wrestle on wrestling in the 80s, did not know he had died, RIP.
wrong dave schultz
this one was an olympic and world champion freestyle wrestler, a seven-time World and Olympic medalist.
Where have you been living?
I have respect for this guy real straight shooter
At first glance I thought this was about Dr. D and I was like “WTF, He’s still alive?!?!?!”
Man if dave hadnt been murdered they woulda smashed the Olympics
It's sad on daves family. God bless dem.
@Tyrel J. Grammar police
To serve & correct
Worst body guard ever
The Fox and the Catcher and the Silverspoon
So sad! 🙏
Extra credit:weight bench
its crazy
kurt did this interview with a broken freakin neck!
Brutal death hearing
The matches they set up for Dupont, he really thought he was very strong wrestler.
I call bullshit on the bodyguard not knowing John du Pont had a gun. It was common knowledge to everyone there that du Pont was carrying a gun all the time. It's a tragic situation though, for Dave Schultz, his family, friends, wrestlers, the sport, and even John du Pont. Every one insisted that he was going insane, yet at trial they flipped that script. I'm not defending John du Pont, but I am defending his sanity. I don't think he would've killed Dave Schultz or threatened anyone else had the people surrounding him got him the mental help he needed. It was a sad situation of the rich guy being surrounded by yes men. From everyone's testimony, Dave was the only one that wasn't a yes man, and that's likely one of the reasons du Pont felt threatened. Not physically threatened, but in the sense of who the alpha was going to be. I really admire Dave Schultz 's daughter for her outlook on it. She genuinely felt sad for John du Pont's situation, and that is hard to do if you're in her place.
True. This isn't giving him any reprieve for what he did here, but he did have a mental illness and a serious case of control freak. So did Dave Shultz but Dave had a reason for it and John just wanted the control because he wanted the status of hosting the best at his Foxcatcher camp.
I know I would have a tough time to get over that but once you've done the homework and studied it he really was mentally unwell. Add to that a wealth and family fortune that allowed him to do anything he wanted.
He also thought one of the wrestlers attacked him and thought it was one of the guys, but he went to Dave's house and confronted him, Dave said "hi" and then DuPont shot him and killed him. Then, just Kurt said here, he turned the gun on his wife and she went in the house when he shot at her and then ended up calling the police.
Now apparently DuPont wasn't even aware of what he did as wrong. Which makes it all the more disturbing.
Interpretations belong to Wisdom;He challenged the theory all Sunday and I watched it.
Huh?
I prefer the documentary than the biopic movie about Foxcatcher.
They used to call him Perc Angle 😂😂
And he still managed to have many good matches in TNA
Hard to believe this isn't fiction..
Just to be clear this is NOT Dr D David Schultz the old wwf wrestler who slapped the dog shit out of Stossel in 1980 lol.
Heard Kurt tell this story on his podcast. Creepiness to the max! And the fbi dude doing the bolt into the bushland fully hectic 😮
John knew Dave was leaving after the Olympics.
Met both Dan Chade and Nancy Schultz, Nancy on quite a few occasions but Dan only a few times. She's a really nice, strong, family lady who's held strong through it all along with her kids, and Dan is one of the most intimidating individuals I've ever come across, not in a mean way but a guy who simply is not to be messed with.
Hard to believe this psycho Du Pont held his own against these tough people, but I guess that's why he had to be drugged up to deal with them (along with being a chickenhawk)
easy to hold it together when you get millions out of your husbands death. not hating, actually good for her.
***** I can guarantee she would give it all back if she could have him back
***** I'm afraid your observation says far more about you than a spec about her.
Having the father of your children and husband murdered...and money?
Low Key what about the part when Mark was cutting Du Pont's hair? that was shady... i mean idk, it make me thought of the movie Behind the Candelabra
i member the Du Pont story. That shit was crazy.
Knocked an nosebleed in me
and ppl dont know this but dupont had lost his man parts in a accident riding a horse and had his junk stepped on by a horse and i think something came off
wonder what made Du Pont crack
spoiled rich individual with mental illness medicated by hard prescription drugs. he started to hallucinate
Not "Dr. D" David Schultz by the way, he's still kickin'
The movie was good but the doc on Netflix was better
who did dupont soot at?
fan chasid?
the machine gun he pulled was on Dan Chaid, another great wrestler. he did this according to Kurt Angle prior to eventually killing Dave Schultz.
does anyone know why john shot dave exactly?
Only that inbred who shot him does
No reason.
With how the weather is changed on the button;
WOW!
He kinda looks like Rich Piana
Lol I can see it now
It seems like there nothing in that cup kurt is holding
+jona wood thats what i thought. it seems like maybe it was almost empty though and when they asked the question, he was taking a drink but stopped and started to answer the question. that might be why he appears to not swallow or whatever.
+cKreepy Jones r u guys that dumb it's chewing tobacco u spit it out
Why did John kill Dave?
No one really knows we think he was just paranoid and crazy
His mental
Health never got treated and he was completely insane
Foxcatcher has some serious flaws. The wrestlers watch (and insult) UFC years before a UFC happened. Schultz's brother is portrayed as having to fight in UFC later for money but hated it. The guy actually says he loves UFC because it gives wrestlers a real legitimate pro sports to compete as opposed to the clown show rasslin
Rasslin is the truest form of wrestling. That's why is known as "professional wrestling"
@@JD_2597I can’t tell if you’re joking. But in case you’re not, Greco-Roman wrestling is “true” wrestling.
@@dogshakea guy who went to my high school (graduated in 05 I was 94), and he ended up representing the USA in Greco Roman wrestling in 2016… even when he was 8 we all thought he was going to be a bruiser
Proof you could have more than God and still be a nobody.
So sorry for Shultz family. They got nothing out of it. Gave 80% of his will to Valentin Dimitrov.
Wrong. 35 million
New record
Sinus nosebleed
I've never been a huge Wrestling fan, I enjoy it, but can take it or leave it, but I have always liked Kurt Angle.
Kurt is a genuine good guy.. met him once for couple of hours when he was new in pro wrestling.. He made me real proud that a guy like the represented us in the Olympic games.
If dave lived his prime in 2000s era he would make it easy mma champion and become millionaire like most elite mma fighters today so he wouldnt need to work for a looney. I saw the only ufc fight of his brother, they are way worse than sakuraba, wrestlers like this make any gracie chicken run
Dave I think was more interested in coaching and he was one of the best… I think Mark would have been the one to go into MMA as he was the more gifted athlete…
He would’ve been in his 40’s throughout the 2000’s so I doubt it.
Is that same Dave Schultz that slapped John Stossel on live television?
No. Dr D. is still alive and kicking.
@@Marc_Araujo thanks for letting me know. He's a man's man!
Satellite ground video
I wonder if he was eating 30 Vicodin a day during this time. I’m really glad he was able to beat it.
Kurt is a gold medal human being. I tend to believe these stories.
Bracket buy one from highschool or gym has to be done;
John never qualified for olympics and was jealous !
I am Kurt angle
Cock'n Ballz WHEEEEEWWWWW!
they did a great job capturing the image in the film, but the personality was far off.
Because you knew everyone involved personally right?
Kurt Angle is the greatest light heavyweight freestyle wrestler in the history of our country. It was so depressing to see him go to WWF when he could have kept winning real world championships.
They had two choices back then MMA or WWF. Nobody was making the money Jordan Burroughs makes now still competing.
He was done with freestyle. His own personal decision.
He had serious neck issues as well. I think back then he reached the top in his chosen sport and it didn't really make him super rich, then a year or 2 after the 96 gold medal win, it just gets forgot about. Kurt went and made some nice life changing money with wwf etc. But at what sacrifice to his health. He looks like he is in a really good place in his life now and I know he has like 5 or 6 young kids and a wife and seems really happy but you can tell he is in constant pain. Somehow I don't think DDP yoga is enough when you have neck/pain issues as bad as Kurt's. His neck must look completely mangled on an xray and he probably should be paralysed in all honesty.
Everyone needs to pay the bills
He went from a sport that the best could barely make a living at to an artform that was much more profitable and much more popular.
Topic cannibus coffee
So a guy shows up with a machine gun and threatens to kill people and they continue to train the next day like nothing happened?
Far out
I saw the movie it was a good movie but at the same time it was sad that dave was killed and that shouldt happen
Kyanna Hippely name of movie
Intel
I've heard story's kurt wreaked brock Lesnar when at WWE
TCL homework
Rich people. Blinded. Be true to yourself, don't worship false prophets. (Or moneybags)
Extra credit weight bench,;