The fact he had that Ironman match with Lesnar, which is regarded as one of the greatest matches ever, after passing out from basically a drug overdose is insane. Kurt was a machine
@@pri0r_t0_a_weekago...fukwi48You don't understand. Elite athletes in contact sports have pain tolerance that you can't conceive. You say they are human. In a way he's not because not everyone will go through that kind of pain. Most people that experience that kind of pain can't function and become nauseous. In a hockey game Jeremy Roenick had his jaw shattered in multiple places from a dirty hit and he kept trying to play the game even though he could feel the bones moving around in his face. Most people would go into shock with that kind of pain but he kept trying to play and only stopped because he realized he was a liability to his team. Most people don't go through that and you can't really understand what that experience is like.
I started on pain killers, turned into heroin. Lost everything. Worst experience of my life. Every time someone asks what heroin withdrawal is like I almost don't even want to say anything because there are no words to even describe the agony and pain I went through. Thankfully 4 years sober now and have my life and everything back. But I agree, I would do anything to not go through those withdrawals again.
This guest on Joe Rogan said he used heroin and withdrawl is only like flew. Is he full of sh#t? He's a dr, and goes on multiple podcasts on this topic.
I had a friend that was going to rehab and his favorite wrestler was Kurt Angle. I reached out to angle on twitter and he wrote my friend a long message encouraging him to go through the full rehab and to stay strong. 8 months later i went to a podcast recording i knew he was gonna be at and i took my friend. I was able to tell Kurt how he gave me my friend back and he took a picture with my friend after the show. Hes a standup guy and very serious about encouraging people to get treatment Edit: I get it, most happy stories on the internet are made up, but this one's legit. I found the message earlier today, idk how I feel about posting it because it was a very personal message. I did find their picture together too lol. The details I can give is that we were at the No Mercy ppv in Los Angeles, then went to go see Booker T's live podcast recording that was a fundraiser for relief efforts after the Houston hurrican. Goldust, Angle, David Arquette, Corey Graves, RVD and Eli Drake were guests.
It saddens me to hear this stuff. Kurt was one of my favorites as a kid, I had no idea he struggled with addiction. I watched my dad struggle with it for most of my life. I’m glad Kurt’s got a hold of it, and is clean now.
Inspiring. I’m an RN that got 2 DUI’s in 90 days after a drinking binge after losing a child in utero, my marriage and my wife and child leaving the state. I was a liability to my people. I almost lost it all and as a nurse it’s even worse career wise… Kurt gave me hope. Haven’t had a drink in 2023. Cheers
Huge respect to Kurt for all he's been through, the depths of hell of drug addiction and his days of being a pro-wrestler, very few have the strength and will power of this man to come out the other end as good as he has. What a entertainer what a champion.
It’s insane to me that with everything Kurt has been through in his life with the WWE, Olympic wrestling, breaking his neck etc.. that getting out of his addiction was the most painful. Wow
WWE, Olympics, breaking his neck are physical pains. Once hes out, they stop hurting. Drugs are life destroyers. Once the brain depends on something its so hard to get rid of that thing.
Opiate addiction takes over your life and destroys it. Getting off them plunges your mind and soul into a dark abyss. There is nothing like it in human experience. The worst. Addicts spend most of their days just avoiding the sickness, the withdrawal. They’ll rob and kill to avoid it.
Kurt was always one of the toughest guys in WWE, and hearing how he did while addicted to pain killers and what he went through afterwards brings it all to a new level.
Never forget he’s also a real wrestling Olympic gold medalist. I went to his wrestling camp as 9yr old back in the 90s he actually play wrestled me called me a Russian madman….still proud of that and him. Thanks Kurt.
Kurt exceeded every expectation in his pro wrestling career. He was an amazing Olympian, but he had this natural gift that made him an incredible pro wrestler, along with the willingness to always be the hardest working guy in the ring. Truly an inspirational guy and I'll always have major respect for Angle.
And was very charismatic on the microphone which is a big part of sports and entertainment, so much so that it has become the pinnacle of sports even ones where they really hurting each other with intention to do so like boxing and mma
If you’re struggling with drugs or alcohol, know that this is temporary and there is always a way out. Start out small, reward your self with things you love, surround yourself with people that love you and keep pushing. You got this!
Kurts not lying. Through everything in my life leaving addiction is the absolute hardest, even though just years in you dont LOVE the addiction, but it wont go away. A few years into his career Kurt was one of my absolute favorites and still is.
Hope you're doing well Matt, just keep it up cause you're doing something that is extremely hard for most. Know you're never alone and you can have the best life without addiction controlling you.
I have a new found respect for this man. I had no idea that he has been through the bowels of addiction and having been there myself, I have a ton of respect for anyone who takes on the challenge of recovery. Also, in his case, the fact that he shares it publicly knowing it may possibly help someone else, is huge. He is a real champion.
@ethanwilliam9944 AGREE 👍 TOTALLY 💯 % being in the same position, losing my NFL Career before it began, 1st semester college serious neck and back injury ended my football 🏈 playing days Nearly ending my life then many more injuries from life crazy car and motorcycle accidents, then overdoses and 25 years plus of hard core opiate addiction. 100s of milligra of Oxys Roxys and many others over the years. I was taking at the height of it all 320 mg of Oxycontin and 600 mg of Roxycodone daily plus Xanax just to sleep it's amazing I survived. I still battle because of the intense pain. I detoxed a few times and 10 years ago was clean for 9 months then the pain was so bad that I becam suicidal and couldn't go on. The doctors and counselors, shrinks all agreed to save my life and have just a tiny quality of life they all agreed I had no other choice. Some controlled opiate Use some quality of life. Terrible situation.
Well said Ethan, I've been dealing with addiction myself. Outpatient classes all over the place, Inpatient....rehab here and there. Still struggling. Hope you're doing well. Addiction and recovery is frowned upon in society these days. Especially this new generation. We get ridiculed and looked down on. I've just been isolating and doing me. Going to meetings. Sitting in the back away from everyone. Just trying to take it 1 day at a time. I go for jogs. Go to the Diner at night and eat by myself. I read at lot now about mental health at Barnes & Noble. Things are going well. Other than that. sleep is hard. I try to lay off the Seroquel and Trazadone. To retrain my mind to naturally sleep on its own. But I have mad respect for Kurt Angle. Been watching him since the 90's early 2000's. I had no idea about his Vicodin struggle.
@@mastersplinter5966 it's definitely a journey. It took me over 20 years to get it. Try not to get down on yourself and if you slip up just be honest, tell on yourself, and try again. The worst thing we can do as addicts is give up and let the disease win. I'm sure you know all of this and I say it not to tell you what to do but to let you know that you're not alone. I know the meetings suck at times. I struggled with that and I still do but they keep us honest. Once you truly surrender you never have to go back. My thoughts are with you. You are worth it and so is life. Things will get better and be proud of yourself for taking the problem on. It took me two months before I could sleep from kicking opiates. It sucks but it gets better. If you need meds to help, don't be ashamed to go to the doc. I know some people look down on Suboxone but I know people that take it and it keeps them off of heroin. Any day we don't use is a miracle and you are living proof of it. Keep your head up and your heart strong. Good luck bro! If you ever need to talk, hit me up.
@@mastersplinter5966weird thing is, I bet a majority of people are addicted to one thing or another. Be it pills, weed, booze, cigarettes…whatever. I think the getting looked down on part of it is so hypocritical when it comes to pills. Probably has to do with them having to be prescribed so getting them without a prescription is the equivalent of somebody looking for heroin or crack. It’s like it’s a super shady business deal. I had a guy who’d just drop them off to me it was that easy. When I decided to quit, initially I was super embarrassed, that people would judge me as some kind of junkie. In reality, most everyone I knew has or had an addiction to one thing or another. Some were legal, like booze and cigarettes. Others weren’t. Me quitting and being open about it actually convinced a couple of others in my circle to quit drinking and smoking. It’s really nothing to be embarrassed about. We all have our vices…
He’s not wrong. I’m a former opiate user and by FAR the thing that stops me from using again is the withdrawals. I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. You want to stay off of opiates for your family, health, society, job, whatever etc….but when it comes down to it, the withdrawals are what make you think twice about doing pills again.
I kicked minor opiate addiction probably a couple dozen times, I'd pop relatively small amounts of morphine and/or oxycodone or hydrocodone every day for a couple weeks (on other occasions, a few months), just long enough to get a habit, then be out for a while and feel shitty. It got old and I just quit one day. I'd been out of them for a couple weeks so there was no withdrawal happening when I made the decision, I just decided not to answer the phone when the guy whose monthly scripts I was buying called. Was tired of the cycle. Then without noticing I replaced it with a crippling alcohol addiction that eventually required inpatient detox. I am definitely not scoffing at opiate withdrawal, I'm not making it a pissing contest by any means, but the alcohol experience was far worse in my personal experience. I never, ever, ever want to do that again. It's the first thing I think of if I ever think about having a drink ever again. It's definitely a major deterrent.
And that’s what makes it so hard for people to get off of, and regular people don’t get that!!! I have 6 years clean this year in November and it’s the BEST thing I ever did in my life. My whole life changed. When i Tell you that when I called the rehab I went to (the intake place) I called them crying my whole soul out, saying I was done and was going to die if I didn’t stop, I really mean it I was scared I was going to die. And even though at that point in my life I probably did have a death wish, I knew the people who loved me would suffer . I had overdosed 5 fucking times and literally should be fucking dead. And thank god for that place that took me in, bc I honestly believe I wouldn’t be here on this earth today. I’ve lost family, friends, all that and I should be one of them. But thankfully those people came 2 days later and made a 6 hour drive to pick me up and take me 2 hours away to a hospital in southern Ohio to detox me. I couldn’t have done it cold turkey. The shit is ROUGH. Those withdrawals are no joke. And I did a medically assisted detox where they had me on Suboxone and Something similar to Xanax. And I was out of it for about 3 days but through the worst parts of the withdrawals. Still felt them for about a week after but not as intense. And here I am today! Still haven’t relapsed 6 years later bc I was actually done. I drink or smoke sometimes but I will never ever EVER touch an opiate again. And people could do it right in front of me and I’d still say HELL NO lol
I was an opiate user. I was never bad enough to have to go through withdrawals. It was hard enough for me to quit. I couldn’t imagine having to go through the withdrawals too. Just the mental aspect is hard to kick. Good on you brother! I’ll never touch the things again
CRAZY eye opening anecdotes from Kurt Angle. Its WILD to see someone as talented as him, someone with an IT factor....had to struggle like this. I hope he stays clean, and stays strong. And if any of you are struggling with addiction or withdrawal, be as strong as you can! And if you yourself cant be strong, surround yourself with people or things that give you strength. You got this!
So pumped. Can’t believe took This long. I knew Rogan would have a great time talking to him. So many wrestlers deserve to be on this show. We need Lesnar. Austin Foley
@@rigoeats3654 yeah I’m just thinking of people Joe be interested in talking with. Fellow fighters. Injuries and stuff. Would love Cody to come on that’s a interview to end all interviews
Hasn't Joe talked mad shit on wrestling? Made those wrestling is fake comments like he was the only one to ever figure that out? Idk seemed to me he thought less about wrestling and wrestlers then even the generic comments....
What a story this man has. I loved this one. The wrestler podcasts that Rogan has been having as of late have been AMAZING. Those guys lived and died and lived again. My gosh, man. Keep em coming.💯
As a recovering alcoholic & drug addict, I empathize with ALL of this. God bless Kurt for having the requisite sack to admit he needed help, getting help, & sticking to his guns. JUST. FOR. TODAY!!!
@Kamau1865 Nothing with any real value in life comes easy. It takes work, pain, inconvenience, yet makes us stronger once we achieve our goals. God bless, & thanks for the kind words!
@@fobbitoperator3620I was thinking about becoming alcohol dependant and a drug addict for sympathy and so I can't legally purchase any firearms. Which ones do you recommend?
Kurt is a living legend, im happy to have been fortunate enough to be born at a time where i grew up with him at the top of his game. I feel for him bc now as an adult, I also became, and still am, a victim of substance abuse. Its comforting to know that even the greatest among us still think and feel the same way about these things as any other person does and was able to overcome his demons. Its inspiring if nothing else
Thanks Kurt for sharing your story. A lot of people go though hard times and to see your resilience and outcome now, shows me that I have hope for my chronic pain.
Its about time someone explains a REAL pill addiction and REAL withdrawals. So many times people gloss over it and simply say “it was the worst” so it was nice to hear him describe what so many of is have felt. Plus joe is always asking this question and this is the first time he has gotten a straight answer.
I used to do maintenance on Kurt's pool when he was going through this. Honestly he was always kind and respectful. Could never tell something was wrong.
I lost one of my high school band buddies to a speedball laced with fentanyl. Dead at just 19, rest in peace Joshua. Dude could rock the hell out of an alto saxophone.
It’s so good to hear these legends be able to talk out of character and just about the reality we don’t get to see that very often due to a lot of them not being there because they succumb to these. Love hearing hulk and Kurt
What’s crazy is I remember just seeing something different in Kurt’s eyes (while wrestling) around the time he was explaining. To hear his story now is crazy. There are so many people going to work, carrying a face and getting through the day who are actually depressed, suicidal or hurting in some way. One of my Favorite football players comes to mind. Junior Seau.
I remember the same. He started at wwe with comedy and laugh lines and around that time, it wasn't that the storyline just changed but his eyes would go glassy or aggressive. It was scary to see as a fan in middle school at the time.
@@Mrpeely1 Depression and CTE are heavily related. Robin Williams, the voice of Genie from Aladdin and actor who played Mrs. Doubtfire, was happy to entertain (but inside was hurting) and didn’t have CTE yet also suffered the same fate. CTE speeds up depression.
There’s a video here on UA-cam called “Perc Angle” and it’s my favorite video OAT. Just clips of Kurt angle around the time he was on painkillers, just being a absolute menace
I was addicted to opioid also. Took 14 hydro 10s to start my day. The way explained the withdrawal is spot on and described perfectly. Sober 6 years from pills 14 year's from alcohol.
@tbaby5650 surprisingly so far. From 30 pk of beer for a few years case a night for the other 10 years even when I had 103 temperature I would drink. My wife says I'm a living miracle. If I said what & how many opioid I took in 6 days people would say bs. God's honest truth in 60 days time I took 220 10mg hydro, 35 15mg oxycodone, 5 20 MG morphine (snorted those time released) 100 MG fentenal patch. I was in bed for a week and a half doing everything Kurt said. The worst for me was my legs and arms moving uncontrollably. The only way I'd ever go to a Dr would be life or death. Everytime they try & prescribe something.
@tbaby5650 6 days. I don't know you but please be careful & try taking as needed. When I 1st got them prescribed I hated taking Tylenol, but the buzz I got off that 1st 1 I was like oh hell yeah 2 I'll be on cloud 9. Then 3at a time. Then I would spend all day every day trying to get hooked up. In order for me to get clean I blocked & deleted a lot of people/friends. 2 herniated disc and sciatica this time of year is extremely hard due to temp/barometric pressure changing is very painful. I'll always be an addict but it's all on me to not go back to anything that messes with my mind.
Dude broke his neck, twice and said pain killers and alcohol were the worst he's been through. I pray any one dealing with addiction stays strong and finds the fight to make it through.
He broke his neck 5 times. But I agree it’s crazy to think he’s pretty much broken his whole body multiple times and yet says opiate withdrawal was the worst pain evet
As a opiate (fenty) addict in recovery myself I know that pain all to well and wish I could have quit the first time I felt withdrawal. But I’ve tortured myself with those countless times. Addiction is tough. But recovery is possible for anyone struggling. Just stay strong. A life sober from that shit is amazing.
I just hit 9 years of no alcohol or opiates. I mixed a 3-day fentanyl patch with a half a bottle of whiskey and almost died. God completely removed the desire to use alcohol or opiates. Life is still difficult but I don't think I would be around if I were still drinking or using PKs. Praying for your brother 🙏
@@GoodfellasX21I hope you gain knowledge, empathy and sympathy. One bad choice can get ANYONE there. The world doesn't need holier-than-thou. It needs understanding, patience and love. Addictions are hard, regardless of how the person got there
Lost my older brother to a heroin overdose this past year. He was 27. Hearing Kurts story about his sister made me realize how sad the pharma industry in this country is, and how abusive the drug industry is. People are dying and no one cares. Edit: Addiction is a terrible disease. I will fully agree a persons first, second, and maybe even third time trying a hard drug (oxy, heroin, etc) are their fault. But most often people want desperately to get out of their addictions but their body physically will not let them stop. Its sad to see so many young people dying nowadays.
A big pharma really to blame though? Why don’t we blame the actual addict who has zero self control? Americans always want to point the blame at others and not accept responsibility
@@marcGOAT1 1) we do not have a population problem, we have an overconsumption problem. Big difference. 2) yes. The first usage of heroin is often an individuals fault. However, like Kurt in the video, many are prescribed painkillers and become addicted that way
Sharing your story is helping someone make it out the other side. I too struggled and its inspiring to see a man who has arguably the biggest platform ever to spill hus guts about how hard just being a human can be. Been clean 7 yrs. If your struggling just remember you can do this. Life is soooo precious
I am a recovering pill addict and every word Kurt said about the withdrawal is 💯 percent true. Worst experience of my entire life The amount of pain I felt. The sweat from being hot and cold that poured from my body. The nausea and the feeling of hollowness inside it's all true. That's why I'll never touch a pain pill again
My older brother was a pill addict and so was I (eventually) at one point in our lives. Not anymore, we are both clean from pills but he always told me, “stop taking these, one day you wake up and realize you’re addicted and can’t live without them.” I always said, “nah, don’t worry, not me it won’t happen to me.” About a year into my Vicodin usage, I woke up one day sick as hell. Restless legs, shitting, throwing up. Quickly realized I was having withdrawals. It literally went from recreational use and then out of nowhere I was withdrawing if I woke up without any pills. Went from taking about one a day to 10 a day at the height of my addiction. My addiction was between age 16-20. I won’t take painkillers anymore, fuck them shits.
Good for you getting clean but vicidin(hydrocodone) is probably one of the weakest opioids you could take so imagine the withdrawals you wouldve have if you were taking oxycodone or heroin ? You're blessed you didn't have to experience it. Stay strong and stay safe 💪
Ive struggled with addictions since childhood, since ive lost all my family pretty early. Porn, overeating, alcohol, smoking, spent all my free time and savings on ladies. But ive always went to gym by myself. It was my place to gather power no matter what was happening in life. And after many years of struggle when i was finally at some good point in life, my mind was so fucked from all the years of brutality toll ciecunstances and traumas put on me, that i started taking drugs. I was kind of fed up with life, as my best years went in pain, racing, going through wire to find myself. And when ive escaped the rat race, i was so destroyed mentally that i didnt give a shit about myself, i didnt know how to be happy, how can i make someone happy if i feel crazy. I was happy only on drugs. Always smoking weed alone, chemicals with friends and women, alcohol on all occasions. I stopped going to gym. Became lazy and stupid. Just beacuse i was sick of myself. i didnt really saw a reason to live happily, as i even was ashamed of trying to open my true feelings and being vulnerable, and always being “hard”. And now i realise that gym was always my fav. drug. That music was my escape. Sleep,fav. food, care, clothes. I thought of things ive dreamed about as a kid. I remebered ive always wanted to drive a race car in track, wanted to shoot guns at range, wanted to travel to mountains, wanted to learn martial arts, wanted to play drums. And i though, if i have nobody to live happy for, even myself. Im gonna do it for that dreamy kid, before every fucked up thing that happened to him. Im gonna make him happy. And then i maybe can make happy someone else. Im still not totally clean, but im back in the lab. It hurts, everything is humbling me, but we are moving. Im 36. And there is no reason that i should not live the rest of my life happy alone.
I was addicted to making money... still am, can't stop. I've made 86 million so far. The agony of this addiction is killing me! I'm filthy rich and I hate it
The only thing I could add is the skin crawling feeling you have. The horrible anxiety and feeling so exhausted but too uncomfortable in your own skin to sleep
Love this man! Although I grew outta wrestling by my mid 20s he is still by far one of the most entertaining and charismatic personalities ever to enter the ring. Kurt will always be one of my top 3 all time favorite wrestlers and brings back so many fond memories. To hear that he also has been through the same struggles in life that I have, strikes a nerve, now I’ll always feel a kinship with him after hearing this interview. Thank you Kurt.
I know the terrible feeling of being stuck on pain pills. When you do so many and you need 3 perk 30’s just to take the withdrawals away. I was so messed up and lost a lot before hitting rock bottom. I’m happy to say I finally got off them after getting locked up and two different rehabs. Unfortunately I’m a felon and not able to get none of my jobs back in the nursing field, Postal Service or government contractor. I’m just happy to be alive for my family and kids
A true legend, definition of workhorse champion. Kurt had a gear most didn’t. I appreciate all you did for the biz Kurt and happy you got the help you need. I could only imagine the pressure to try to continuously perform at such a high level
My dad locked me in a room for about two weeks for me to get off of it. It was awful, but I am thankful I had that experience. I can 100% understand his fear about going through withdraw again. That 💩 is terrible!
Mega mega props to him for talking about it straight up like that and I think there are a lot of people who will be able to listen, relate and hopefully get help if they’re in need
As an ex addict.. the worst bit for me about withdrawal is everything Kurt said, but it’s the fact that it lasts for soooo long! Day after day of the same.. and when it finally subsided, then comes the terrible depression!! That’s when most people will use again, it’s the depression that gets them.. it got me many times. If you are struggling to get clean, just stick in there.. it does get better, I promise! You are not different to everyone else, you will feel better! You will feel like they all look !!
Yes sir some people don't understand that tho they think it's easy cuz you don't really know how to explain how the Withdrawal makes you feel CONGRATS ON YOUR RECOVERY I START MINE ONCE AGAIN TODAY
I wasn't able to get through withdrawals....started on Zubsolv in 2015 and have been taking one a day since then. My life is normal. I thank God for buprenorphine.
One of the best in ring performers ever and as a kid I hated his character so much lol. But as an adult I can appreciate just how amazing he was on the mic, absolutely hilarious too.
@@Richard-EspanolBro, same. I couldn't stand him on a personal level as a little kid lol. One of my fondest childhood memories was watching my favourite The Rock wrestle him for the WWF title at No Way Out 2001 when I was like 7-8 years old. My brother, myself and our cousins were jumping up and down screaming for each false finish like it was the Thrilla in Manila lmao. It was real to us back then. Can't help but feel a great debt of gratitude to Kurt for all the magical childhood memories that he destroyed himself to give us
Kurt was just so good. The part of his career in TNA where he was known as "Perc Angle", he was still working better than anybody else in the business. Happy to see he's doing so well now.
As an addict myself now In recovery, Withdrawals were absolutely terrible. I too was prescribed painkillers and 2 a day no longer worked and overtime I literally only took them to avoid the withdrawals and to feel “normal”. I finally went to Rehab for the first time and i thought rehabs would make you go through it cold turkey but I quickly realized damn near everyone in there was either on Suboxone, or Methadone and the doctors were basically pushing for me to get on 1 of them and I was going to, until another patient told me don’t substitute 1 drug for another and that Suboxone and methadone were not the solution and I owe him alot for looking out for me because now after 4 yrs in recovery I see how dependent ppl are on subs or methadone and how they just stay on it.
Kurt glad ya made it through it. Saw you in Africa in 2004 after we got back from Iraq in 2003 we were redeployed to Djibouti and saw you come through and talked to allot of my Marines about your vascular issues with your arms and how no matter how hard you lifted you could not grow them despite the industry pressure, now hearing the drug pressure…. Miracle you are alive Boss. Be well killer, seriously hats off. Thanks for what you did for the USO Tour!
I can relate to a lot of what he said. Had the same problem as a result of back pain and was put on all sorts of pain meds and like Kurt I built up a tolerance got dependent then addicted then overdosed woke up in ICU with tubes coming out of me and freaked out. They even had one in my jugular for some reason I can’t remember but it was the scariest experience I’ve ever had. After that I also went cold turkey after discharging myself from hospital and the withdrawals are exactly like Kurt said. Absolutely terrible.
Yaay you got off it without turning to methadone or suboxone! That shit is never worth it . I mean personally ive been "clean" for 4 years but I don't tell anyone I'm clean or brag about this " sobriety " I've achieved all because I'm on methadone so I really didn't " achieve" anything . Just a steady supply of liquid handcuffs so I'll never withdrawal again . Wish I could go back and just go through the opiate withdrawal instead of being a pussy by turning to methadone
Yeah I’ve heard about methadone it does sound really bad. I just knew it had to go so it was time to bite the bullet but I was smoking cannabis which I’d say made it at least a bit easier.
I can relate I also am prescribed methadone. I'm just on 55 mil. And I don't want to go higher,u just become a slave to that shit too. I'm like u I don't go around saying I'm sober but u can get back on a real life route.
This was a powerful moment in the episode for me. Because I myself cold Turkey quit methadone and I was taking 15 a day at the bare minimum. And I can totally relate with his statement on keeping a handful on the bedside. So when you wake up in the morning, you can just grab them. So you feel normal when you wake up. The withdrawals were the absolute. Most painful thing I have ever experienced in my life. And I was hit by a truck my dear bike and broke my hip and multiple other bones. So I would never wish withdrawal on my worst enemy. And I absolutely love the fact That Kurt Angle is open and honest about his addiction and past my hat's off to you, Bud.
I love hearing about other people that got out of the rabbit hole of drugs. It gives me the motivation to stay clean. Thats one journey that I would never wish on my worst enemy.
You are correct Brother I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. Another trap is Suboxone, I was prescribed it for years and it’s just as bad with the withdrawals. Like with everything you must taper off slowly. I’m happy to say I’m clean from my DOC’s but I do drink a few times a years. I hope you stay on the right path Bud👊🏻✌🏻
@brettlott570 I tried suboxone aswell but I just kept going back to opiates. The only way I was able to get clean was by moving away from everyone I knew and going cold turkey. Congrats on getting clean bro. Keep it up.
Kurt angle is one the most underrated athletes of all time . Him at his peak was absolute monster . He dominated wrestling and his training and work ethic was one of the best I seen . He also took the time out and sent video message to my first cousin who got marriad just a month ago who was big fan of Kurt . His older brother reached out to Kurt and they played it reception . So much respect for this man god bless
my sister is 38 and doing drugs after getting out of prison for 4 years, his story is very eerily close to mine.. hope she gets it together before she ends up like his.. would suck, glad kurt is better these days
@@twistidtimmer He threatened to sue Paul Heyman. Angle had some sort of promo or appearance at an ECW show not long after he won at the Olympics. This was the same show where Raven crucified Sandman. Angle basically told Heyman that I will not be involved in this whatsoever and if you use my image, I'll sue the hell out of you
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@@GooglechriseOliverDMT to be used as a therapy tool to treat depression, anxiety and other mental health conditions, as well as aid with self-improvement and discovery. But studies of DMT are actually scarce, so it’s hard to know the full extent of its therapeutic benefits.
I was working at the rehab Kurt went to when he came. He did seem nervous, you could see it in his face that he was going through it. I was so young and naïve at the time, chasing the hamster wheel of success as a D&A counselor. Little did I know I would end up losing everything I ever worked for a few years later. I have since come to understand that I have been suffering with quiet borderline personality disorder since I was a toddler. One of the co-occurring conditions often associated with BPD is addictions as a way of coping. I self-destructed into oblivion. I don't wish this on anyone. Each day is white knuckling through the endless torment.
@@evansgate Actually, I am very glad to report that after using magic mushrooms, and having a divine encounter with God during the trip, most if not all of my symptoms including lifelong PTSD symptoms and addictions have vanished. Truly a miracle. I don't know how else to explain it.
The worst of the withdrawals for me was the body aches, restlessness and not being able to sleep. Unfortunately I was forced to cold turkey when I got locked up and the jail didn’t give anything to help. Hopefully jails are helping people with their withdrawals these days. Some of my worst days were being locked up while withdrawing from Pain Meds and Xanax 😔
I broke my back doing a charity parachute jump on a weekend off from SAS Signals pre Selection course in march 03. Didn't know it at the time. Went onto the Selection in June 03. Absolute miracle I made it as far as I did. Wrote a letter to the OC of Sqn in 2015 after finally getting nhs help and 5 spinal surgeries. Explained why I came off Selection, and apologised for wasting their time. When he read my journey, he said I was ideal guy for them. Mental Health was mega he said. I said I got that from my family upbringing, my other times serving. Plus meeting the Sqn guys that were mentors with amazing journeys. Part of my 30yr ongoing multiple degenerative physical and mental chronic and acute health battles. I'd love to share my full journey. It may be inspirational to one or two. ❤
I started using painkillers at 14, by the time I was 20 I was using heroin occasionally. By the time I was 22 I was a full blown intravenous heroin addict. I finally got clean about 11 years later in 2009. In that time I had kicked heroin four times, each time was more agonizing than the last. And after I every time I’d immediately go right back to the dope. My first child was born in 2012 and without kids I truly feel I would’ve used again and repeated the same cycle over and over again. Opiates are the devil
Good on you. It’s a lifelong struggle. If I’d never tried Oxys my life would be so much different. It’s crazy how something that small can be so powerful
I think one thing he would've wanted to add is the unbelievable feelings of anxiety, panic, fear, regret and embarrassment. Your thoughts become so negative that it can make you beyond depressed. It's almost like being in shock.
After Kurt won the gold medal, he gave a speech in my high school. After the speech, my friends and I were out outside of the cafeteria hacky sacking. Kurt Angle was walking up the sidewalk. He looked grim. We all just assumed that he was just going to walk his way right through our circle, but he walked right up and stopped. " Hack it up." He was so muscular, that his movements looked awkward, but he was good. At one point, he burst out with his chest to bounce the hacky sack off of it, and the rest of us all jumped back. 😆 That guy was, and is awesome.
Love Kurt. He made my Childhood great. Always hard to hear the tragedies, but this is what has made that man. Hope he lives out the rest of his years with some peace. Big up, Kurt🎉
Listening to Kurt Angle share his journey reminds us that everyone, no matter their status, is human and vulnerable. It's a powerful testament to the grip of addiction. But could the sports industry have done more to support him and others?
The fact he had that Ironman match with Lesnar, which is regarded as one of the greatest matches ever, after passing out from basically a drug overdose is insane. Kurt was a machine
Literal, but on the flip side? He’s human. And these things are stuff we all go threw
@@pri0r_t0_a_weekago...fukwi48I don’t think we all od then go on to have a wrestling match lol
@@pri0r_t0_a_weekago...fukwi48You don't understand. Elite athletes in contact sports have pain tolerance that you can't conceive. You say they are human. In a way he's not because not everyone will go through that kind of pain. Most people that experience that kind of pain can't function and become nauseous.
In a hockey game Jeremy Roenick had his jaw shattered in multiple places from a dirty hit and he kept trying to play the game even though he could feel the bones moving around in his face. Most people would go into shock with that kind of pain but he kept trying to play and only stopped because he realized he was a liability to his team. Most people don't go through that and you can't really understand what that experience is like.
I saw that match it was awesome
@@pri0r_t0_a_weekago...fukwi48I mean most people don’t casually say “after I broke my neck the second time” while telling a story lol
Perc Angle was one of the most diabolical, unstoppable, and entertaining characters in wrestling history during that TNA run
Brahhhhhhh😅
3 Eyes’. Intensity. Integrity. Intelligence
@@JackCrossSamaperc triangle?
Yerp Angle.
Dude was a fucking meat wreaking ball that could fly off of cages
I started on pain killers, turned into heroin. Lost everything. Worst experience of my life. Every time someone asks what heroin withdrawal is like I almost don't even want to say anything because there are no words to even describe the agony and pain I went through. Thankfully 4 years sober now and have my life and everything back. But I agree, I would do anything to not go through those withdrawals again.
Respect bro
This guest on Joe Rogan said he used heroin and withdrawl is only like flew. Is he full of sh#t? He's a dr, and goes on multiple podcasts on this topic.
do some more heroin, j u n k i e
Respect
Respect my brother .....
I had a friend that was going to rehab and his favorite wrestler was Kurt Angle. I reached out to angle on twitter and he wrote my friend a long message encouraging him to go through the full rehab and to stay strong. 8 months later i went to a podcast recording i knew he was gonna be at and i took my friend. I was able to tell Kurt how he gave me my friend back and he took a picture with my friend after the show. Hes a standup guy and very serious about encouraging people to get treatment
Edit: I get it, most happy stories on the internet are made up, but this one's legit. I found the message earlier today, idk how I feel about posting it because it was a very personal message. I did find their picture together too lol. The details I can give is that we were at the No Mercy ppv in Los Angeles, then went to go see Booker T's live podcast recording that was a fundraiser for relief efforts after the Houston hurrican. Goldust, Angle, David Arquette, Corey Graves, RVD and Eli Drake were guests.
That's awesome 🎉
@@staygold2563you sir are very gay.
@@staygold2563did that make you feel special? Calling someone a liar with no evidence? You loser
Most addicts unfortunately don't make it to rehab.
Kurt is a class act
the willingness of Kurt to tell his hardest stories so candidly, incredible. True legend of COMBAT SPORTS not just Professional Wrestling
lol wrestling isn't a sport
@@nadaduo1765he's an Olympic gold medalist so yeah he has a great legacy in combat sports
@@Raza_24you made a point against something he never said you’re just making yourself look stupid
@@nadaduo1765slow ahhh 🤣😂
@@nadaduo1765he is 1000x the man you’ll ever be, as well as any of the athletes that put their bodies on the line to entertain
It saddens me to hear this stuff. Kurt was one of my favorites as a kid, I had no idea he struggled with addiction. I watched my dad struggle with it for most of my life. I’m glad Kurt’s got a hold of it, and is clean now.
I hope your dad is doing better now.
Looks like he's interviewing his brother
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😂😂😂
😂 if they only had the same shirt on also
Funny thing is Joe is 2 years older than Kurt.
😭😭😭😭
Inspiring. I’m an RN that got 2 DUI’s in 90 days after a drinking binge after losing a child in utero, my marriage and my wife and child leaving the state. I was a liability to my people. I almost lost it all and as a nurse it’s even worse career wise… Kurt gave me hope. Haven’t had a drink in 2023. Cheers
Good man.
@@charlesshepherd2004😂
Nothing but love man, keep it up.
I'm so proud of you! That's amazing! Keep fighting for YOU! You deserve it! 😊
Just pls Don’t take up smoking to cope. Things are terrible!
Huge respect to Kurt for all he's been through, the depths of hell of drug addiction and his days of being a pro-wrestler, very few have the strength and will power of this man to come out the other end as good as he has. What a entertainer what a champion.
It’s insane to me that with everything Kurt has been through in his life with the WWE, Olympic wrestling, breaking his neck etc.. that getting out of his addiction was the most painful. Wow
WWE, Olympics, breaking his neck are physical pains. Once hes out, they stop hurting.
Drugs are life destroyers. Once the brain depends on something its so hard to get rid of that thing.
@@mrirrelevant7875 I agree with angles sentiments
His coach was killed, his dad died in construction, his sister od on heroin. His wife left him . The guy has been through a lot
Freakin neck*
Opiate addiction takes over your life and destroys it. Getting off them plunges your mind and soul into a dark abyss. There is nothing like it in human experience. The worst. Addicts spend most of their days just avoiding the sickness, the withdrawal. They’ll rob and kill to avoid it.
Kurt was always one of the toughest guys in WWE, and hearing how he did while addicted to pain killers and what he went through afterwards brings it all to a new level.
A little heart breaking, actually.
But he's a tough mother fucker, so it be ok.
Never liked him in WWE but now that I'm older. Idk if I like the guy, but I damn sure can give him some respect.
He's definitely up there with Lesner and Haku as far as being legit tough, for sure.
most of the wrestlers are on something because they smash their body's up that bad.
There all alcoholics and drug addicts LOl, literally 90% of them have had substance abuse disorders
Never forget he’s also a real wrestling Olympic gold medalist. I went to his wrestling camp as 9yr old back in the 90s he actually play wrestled me called me a Russian madman….still proud of that and him. Thanks Kurt.
Kurt exceeded every expectation in his pro wrestling career. He was an amazing Olympian, but he had this natural gift that made him an incredible pro wrestler, along with the willingness to always be the hardest working guy in the ring. Truly an inspirational guy and I'll always have major respect for Angle.
Top 3 in-ring performer of the Attitude Era imo
@brunodj5177 my favorite wrestler of all time ❤️💙
From his ring debut, we knew he was legit. They promoted him exceptionally. Too bad wwe lost its way
Ya Kurt is such a legend 🙏
And was very charismatic on the microphone which is a big part of sports and entertainment, so much so that it has become the pinnacle of sports even ones where they really hurting each other with intention to do so like boxing and mma
If you’re struggling with drugs or alcohol, know that this is temporary and there is always a way out. Start out small, reward your self with things you love, surround yourself with people that love you and keep pushing. You got this!
shut up
I did then ended rewarding myself with the drug I was trying to quit lol
But I'm all good now tho 😅
@@MartyRyuu-fx9oj😅😅many such cases, did you get clean?
@@MartyRyuu-fx9oj congratulations 🎉 it’s tough man
Kurts not lying. Through everything in my life leaving addiction is the absolute hardest, even though just years in you dont LOVE the addiction, but it wont go away. A few years into his career Kurt was one of my absolute favorites and still is.
Hope you're doing well Matt, just keep it up cause you're doing something that is extremely hard for most. Know you're never alone and you can have the best life without addiction controlling you.
I have a new found respect for this man. I had no idea that he has been through the bowels of addiction and having been there myself, I have a ton of respect for anyone who takes on the challenge of recovery. Also, in his case, the fact that he shares it publicly knowing it may possibly help someone else, is huge. He is a real champion.
@ethanwilliam9944 AGREE 👍 TOTALLY
💯 % being in the same position, losing my NFL Career before it began, 1st semester college serious neck and back injury ended my football 🏈 playing days
Nearly ending my life then many more injuries from life crazy car and motorcycle accidents, then overdoses and 25 years plus of hard core opiate addiction. 100s of milligra of Oxys Roxys and many others over the years. I was taking at the height of it all 320 mg of Oxycontin and 600 mg of Roxycodone daily plus Xanax just to sleep it's amazing I survived. I still battle because of the intense pain. I detoxed a few times and 10 years ago was clean for 9 months then the pain was so bad that I becam suicidal and couldn't go on.
The doctors and counselors, shrinks all agreed to save my life and have just a tiny quality of life they all agreed I had no other choice. Some controlled opiate
Use some quality of life. Terrible situation.
Kurt Angle’s story is awesome 👏
Well said Ethan, I've been dealing with addiction myself. Outpatient classes all over the place, Inpatient....rehab here and there. Still struggling.
Hope you're doing well. Addiction and recovery is frowned upon in society these days. Especially this new generation. We get ridiculed and looked down on.
I've just been isolating and doing me. Going to meetings. Sitting in the back away from everyone. Just trying to take it 1 day at a time. I go for jogs. Go to the Diner at night and eat by myself. I read at lot now about mental health at Barnes & Noble. Things are going well. Other than that. sleep is hard. I try to lay off the Seroquel and Trazadone. To retrain my mind to naturally sleep on its own. But I have mad respect for Kurt Angle. Been watching him since the 90's early 2000's. I had no idea about his Vicodin struggle.
@@mastersplinter5966 it's definitely a journey. It took me over 20 years to get it. Try not to get down on yourself and if you slip up just be honest, tell on yourself, and try again. The worst thing we can do as addicts is give up and let the disease win. I'm sure you know all of this and I say it not to tell you what to do but to let you know that you're not alone. I know the meetings suck at times. I struggled with that and I still do but they keep us honest. Once you truly surrender you never have to go back. My thoughts are with you. You are worth it and so is life. Things will get better and be proud of yourself for taking the problem on. It took me two months before I could sleep from kicking opiates. It sucks but it gets better. If you need meds to help, don't be ashamed to go to the doc. I know some people look down on Suboxone but I know people that take it and it keeps them off of heroin. Any day we don't use is a miracle and you are living proof of it. Keep your head up and your heart strong. Good luck bro! If you ever need to talk, hit me up.
@@mastersplinter5966weird thing is, I bet a majority of people are addicted to one thing or another. Be it pills, weed, booze, cigarettes…whatever. I think the getting looked down on part of it is so hypocritical when it comes to pills. Probably has to do with them having to be prescribed so getting them without a prescription is the equivalent of somebody looking for heroin or crack. It’s like it’s a super shady business deal. I had a guy who’d just drop them off to me it was that easy. When I decided to quit, initially I was super embarrassed, that people would judge me as some kind of junkie. In reality, most everyone I knew has or had an addiction to one thing or another. Some were legal, like booze and cigarettes. Others weren’t. Me quitting and being open about it actually convinced a couple of others in my circle to quit drinking and smoking. It’s really nothing to be embarrassed about. We all have our vices…
He’s not wrong. I’m a former opiate user and by FAR the thing that stops me from using again is the withdrawals. I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. You want to stay off of opiates for your family, health, society, job, whatever etc….but when it comes down to it, the withdrawals are what make you think twice about doing pills again.
Well said brother, and I'm proud of you 👍
Good job on getting off them bro 💪🏼
I kicked minor opiate addiction probably a couple dozen times, I'd pop relatively small amounts of morphine and/or oxycodone or hydrocodone every day for a couple weeks (on other occasions, a few months), just long enough to get a habit, then be out for a while and feel shitty. It got old and I just quit one day. I'd been out of them for a couple weeks so there was no withdrawal happening when I made the decision, I just decided not to answer the phone when the guy whose monthly scripts I was buying called. Was tired of the cycle. Then without noticing I replaced it with a crippling alcohol addiction that eventually required inpatient detox. I am definitely not scoffing at opiate withdrawal, I'm not making it a pissing contest by any means, but the alcohol experience was far worse in my personal experience. I never, ever, ever want to do that again. It's the first thing I think of if I ever think about having a drink ever again. It's definitely a major deterrent.
And that’s what makes it so hard for people to get off of, and regular people don’t get that!!! I have 6 years clean this year in November and it’s the BEST thing I ever did in my life. My whole life changed. When i Tell you that when I called the rehab I went to (the intake place) I called them crying my whole soul out, saying I was done and was going to die if I didn’t stop, I really mean it I was scared I was going to die. And even though at that point in my life I probably did have a death wish, I knew the people who loved me would suffer . I had overdosed 5 fucking times and literally should be fucking dead. And thank god for that place that took me in, bc I honestly believe I wouldn’t be here on this earth today. I’ve lost family, friends, all that and I should be one of them. But thankfully those people came 2 days later and made a 6 hour drive to pick me up and take me 2 hours away to a hospital in southern Ohio to detox me. I couldn’t have done it cold turkey. The shit is ROUGH. Those withdrawals are no joke. And I did a medically assisted detox where they had me on Suboxone and Something similar to Xanax. And I was out of it for about 3 days but through the worst parts of the withdrawals. Still felt them for about a week after but not as intense. And here I am today! Still haven’t relapsed 6 years later bc I was actually done. I drink or smoke sometimes but I will never ever EVER touch an opiate again. And people could do it right in front of me and I’d still say HELL NO lol
I was an opiate user. I was never bad enough to have to go through withdrawals. It was hard enough for me to quit. I couldn’t imagine having to go through the withdrawals too. Just the mental aspect is hard to kick. Good on you brother! I’ll never touch the things again
CRAZY eye opening anecdotes from Kurt Angle. Its WILD to see someone as talented as him, someone with an IT factor....had to struggle like this. I hope he stays clean, and stays strong. And if any of you are struggling with addiction or withdrawal, be as strong as you can! And if you yourself cant be strong, surround yourself with people or things that give you strength. You got this!
So glad to still have Kurt around, what a legend. Way to turn your life around
I love this man. He's on my Mount Rushmore or Pro Wrestling.
I never knew he went through this.
Yea Kurt's the man.
YOU SUCK! YOU SUCK! Haha
@@wasperminingco Same here
So pumped. Can’t believe took
This long. I knew Rogan would have a great time talking to him. So many wrestlers deserve to be on this show. We need Lesnar. Austin Foley
Triple H, Randy Orton and of course the man Vince McMahon
@@rigoeats3654 yeah I’m just thinking of people Joe be interested in talking with. Fellow fighters. Injuries and stuff. Would love Cody to come on that’s a interview to end all interviews
Screamin' Norman Smiley
I'm shocked Lesnar hasn't been on given his MMA career, I would have expected him before anyone else
Hasn't Joe talked mad shit on wrestling? Made those wrestling is fake comments like he was the only one to ever figure that out? Idk seemed to me he thought less about wrestling and wrestlers then even the generic comments....
What a story this man has. I loved this one. The wrestler podcasts that Rogan has been having as of late have been AMAZING. Those guys lived and died and lived again. My gosh, man. Keep em coming.💯
Hats off to Kurt for talking about this. I quit opiates at 25. I'm 43 now and can remember it all like it was yesterday.
As a recovering alcoholic & drug addict, I empathize with ALL of this.
God bless Kurt for having the requisite sack to admit he needed help, getting help, & sticking to his guns.
JUST. FOR. TODAY!!!
Thanks, brother. Same to you; hope you are happy and clean and staying free. It's not easy, but it sure is worth it.
So glad you're still here with us Fobbioperator.... keep fighting bro
@mastersplinter5966 Same to you, & much blessings to you & and your family!!
@Kamau1865 Nothing with any real value in life comes easy. It takes work, pain, inconvenience, yet makes us stronger once we achieve our goals.
God bless, & thanks for the kind words!
@@fobbitoperator3620I was thinking about becoming alcohol dependant and a drug addict for sympathy and so I can't legally purchase any firearms. Which ones do you recommend?
this made me cry about help talking about his sister overdosing after cutting contact for 8 months... i don't blame him and I hope he is doing better.
Kurt is a living legend, im happy to have been fortunate enough to be born at a time where i grew up with him at the top of his game. I feel for him bc now as an adult, I also became, and still am, a victim of substance abuse. Its comforting to know that even the greatest among us still think and feel the same way about these things as any other person does and was able to overcome his demons. Its inspiring if nothing else
Man spend 13 years on the methadone program like myself and you will see that addiction does not discriminate and does not care.
I wish they talked about fox catcher
do some more drugs, j u n k i e
Get together man we don't wanna loose u
@@Heisenberg-sg7mc best of luck in learning how to spell, r e t a r d
Seeing people recover from horrible substance abuse problems is so awesome. Takes a tough SOB to get and stay clean.
Thanks Kurt for sharing your story. A lot of people go though hard times and to see your resilience and outcome now, shows me that I have hope for my chronic pain.
Its about time someone explains a REAL pill addiction and REAL withdrawals. So many times people gloss over it and simply say “it was the worst” so it was nice to hear him describe what so many of is have felt. Plus joe is always asking this question and this is the first time he has gotten a straight answer.
Kurt really did give it all he had. Gave his neck, his heart and soul to wrestling.
I used to do maintenance on Kurt's pool when he was going through this. Honestly he was always kind and respectful. Could never tell something was wrong.
I lost one of my high school band buddies to a speedball laced with fentanyl. Dead at just 19, rest in peace Joshua. Dude could rock the hell out of an alto saxophone.
Keep the memory alive bro. 🤟
Sorry to hear bro! I wish you the best man
Lost my brother in January of this year from ecstasy laced with fentanyl. He was 24 and left a son behind.
I heard he played the skin flute really well too!
Lol
It’s so good to hear these legends be able to talk out of character and just about the reality we don’t get to see that very often due to a lot of them not being there because they succumb to these. Love hearing hulk and Kurt
What’s crazy is I remember just seeing something different in Kurt’s eyes (while wrestling) around the time he was explaining. To hear his story now is crazy. There are so many people going to work, carrying a face and getting through the day who are actually depressed, suicidal or hurting in some way. One of my Favorite football players comes to mind. Junior Seau.
No he had severe cte
I remember the same. He started at wwe with comedy and laugh lines and around that time, it wasn't that the storyline just changed but his eyes would go glassy or aggressive. It was scary to see as a fan in middle school at the time.
@@Mrpeely1 Depression and CTE are heavily related. Robin Williams, the voice of Genie from Aladdin and actor who played Mrs. Doubtfire, was happy to entertain (but inside was hurting) and didn’t have CTE yet also suffered the same fate. CTE speeds up depression.
@@KathyAnne28 yeah that’s a good point it was like instead of being happy and joking he was more aggressive and angry as a person in his 👁️ eyes.
There’s a video here on UA-cam called “Perc Angle” and it’s my favorite video OAT. Just clips of Kurt angle around the time he was on painkillers, just being a absolute menace
I was addicted to opioid also. Took 14 hydro 10s to start my day. The way explained the withdrawal is spot on and described perfectly. Sober 6 years from pills 14 year's from alcohol.
Is your liver okay from all the tylenol in them
@tbaby5650 surprisingly so far. From 30 pk of beer for a few years case a night for the other 10 years even when I had 103 temperature I would drink. My wife says I'm a living miracle. If I said what & how many opioid I took in 6 days people would say bs. God's honest truth in 60 days time I took 220 10mg hydro, 35 15mg oxycodone, 5 20 MG morphine (snorted those time released) 100 MG fentenal patch. I was in bed for a week and a half doing everything Kurt said. The worst for me was my legs and arms moving uncontrollably. The only way I'd ever go to a Dr would be life or death. Everytime they try & prescribe something.
@@Godgreenzngunz you did all that in 6 days or 60 days . Your comment says 60 . I also take loratab 10s
@tbaby5650 6 days. I don't know you but please be careful & try taking as needed. When I 1st got them prescribed I hated taking Tylenol, but the buzz I got off that 1st 1 I was like oh hell yeah 2 I'll be on cloud 9. Then 3at a time. Then I would spend all day every day trying to get hooked up. In order for me to get clean I blocked & deleted a lot of people/friends. 2 herniated disc and sciatica this time of year is extremely hard due to temp/barometric pressure changing is very painful. I'll always be an addict but it's all on me to not go back to anything that messes with my mind.
@@Godgreenzngunz I appreciate you taking the time to reply back . God bless you and continue the straight path and you got this bud .
Dude broke his neck, twice and said pain killers and alcohol were the worst he's been through. I pray any one dealing with addiction stays strong and finds the fight to make it through.
He broke his neck 5 times. But I agree it’s crazy to think he’s pretty much broken his whole body multiple times and yet says opiate withdrawal was the worst pain evet
I love how candid he is about all of this - well spoken, too.
The sacrifices these guys make for our entertainment is just mind boggling
Amen bro.
They make the sacrifices for money. But i see your point
@Muskeln-kaufende They did earn more than enough money at some point but it is the passion that keeps them going on for the longevity of it.
@derka_james You'd be surprised how many wrestlers outside of WWE, AEW and the biggest names on the indies don't make that much.
Kurt Angle is very inspirational. Proof you can overcome anything in this world if you are mentally strong enough.
His documentary is very inspirational . Kurt lived a crazy life. Im glad he still around so we can appreciate him. A real living legend
What's his documentary called mate
@@chrisakabusi3224It's called "Angle"
Wats the doc?
As a opiate (fenty) addict in recovery myself I know that pain all to well and wish I could have quit the first time I felt withdrawal. But I’ve tortured myself with those countless times. Addiction is tough. But recovery is possible for anyone struggling. Just stay strong. A life sober from that shit is amazing.
I just hit 9 years of no alcohol or opiates. I mixed a 3-day fentanyl patch with a half a bottle of whiskey and almost died. God completely removed the desire to use alcohol or opiates. Life is still difficult but I don't think I would be around if I were still drinking or using PKs. Praying for your brother 🙏
You got this Anthony! Proud of you & glad you're still here man
You were collateral damage and a target for the oligarchs running this place. Don't ever forget that.
Don't blame addiction. You used your hands to do everything. You chose to.
@@GoodfellasX21I hope you gain knowledge, empathy and sympathy. One bad choice can get ANYONE there. The world doesn't need holier-than-thou. It needs understanding, patience and love. Addictions are hard, regardless of how the person got there
I’m so glad that Kurt is doing well. He’s such a great person.
Lost my older brother to a heroin overdose this past year. He was 27. Hearing Kurts story about his sister made me realize how sad the pharma industry in this country is, and how abusive the drug industry is. People are dying and no one cares.
Edit: Addiction is a terrible disease. I will fully agree a persons first, second, and maybe even third time trying a hard drug (oxy, heroin, etc) are their fault. But most often people want desperately to get out of their addictions but their body physically will not let them stop. Its sad to see so many young people dying nowadays.
A big pharma really to blame though? Why don’t we blame the actual addict who has zero self control? Americans always want to point the blame at others and not accept responsibility
well we do have a population problem plus its a preventable death so its individuals fault
@@marcGOAT1 1) we do not have a population problem, we have an overconsumption problem. Big difference. 2) yes. The first usage of heroin is often an individuals fault. However, like Kurt in the video, many are prescribed painkillers and become addicted that way
Sorry for your loss. 🙏
Can't wait until you get into a car accident and require a prescription for something like these pain meds. No one is immune, not even you@@marcGOAT1
Sharing your story is helping someone make it out the other side. I too struggled and its inspiring to see a man who has arguably the biggest platform ever to spill hus guts about how hard just being a human can be. Been clean 7 yrs. If your struggling just remember you can do this. Life is soooo precious
I am a recovering pill addict and every word Kurt said about the withdrawal is 💯 percent true. Worst experience of my entire life The amount of pain I felt. The sweat from being hot and cold that poured from my body. The nausea and the feeling of hollowness inside it's all true. That's why I'll never touch a pain pill again
I hope you get through man 💕
My older brother was a pill addict and so was I (eventually) at one point in our lives. Not anymore, we are both clean from pills but he always told me, “stop taking these, one day you wake up and realize you’re addicted and can’t live without them.” I always said, “nah, don’t worry, not me it won’t happen to me.” About a year into my Vicodin usage, I woke up one day sick as hell. Restless legs, shitting, throwing up. Quickly realized I was having withdrawals. It literally went from recreational use and then out of nowhere I was withdrawing if I woke up without any pills. Went from taking about one a day to 10 a day at the height of my addiction. My addiction was between age 16-20. I won’t take painkillers anymore, fuck them shits.
Good for you getting clean but vicidin(hydrocodone) is probably one of the weakest opioids you could take so imagine the withdrawals you wouldve have if you were taking oxycodone or heroin ? You're blessed you didn't have to experience it. Stay strong and stay safe 💪
@@hi-ic2nb Xanax withdrawals is a bitch also
Ive struggled with addictions since childhood, since ive lost all my family pretty early. Porn, overeating, alcohol, smoking, spent all my free time and savings on ladies. But ive always went to gym by myself. It was my place to gather power no matter what was happening in life. And after many years of struggle when i was finally at some good point in life, my mind was so fucked from all the years of brutality toll ciecunstances and traumas put on me, that i started taking drugs. I was kind of fed up with life, as my best years went in pain, racing, going through wire to find myself. And when ive escaped the rat race, i was so destroyed mentally that i didnt give a shit about myself, i didnt know how to be happy, how can i make someone happy if i feel crazy. I was happy only on drugs. Always smoking weed alone, chemicals with friends and women, alcohol on all occasions. I stopped going to gym. Became lazy and stupid. Just beacuse i was sick of myself. i didnt really saw a reason to live happily, as i even was ashamed of trying to open my true feelings and being vulnerable, and always being “hard”. And now i realise that gym was always my fav. drug. That music was my escape. Sleep,fav. food, care, clothes. I thought of things ive dreamed about as a kid. I remebered ive always wanted to drive a race car in track, wanted to shoot guns at range, wanted to travel to mountains, wanted to learn martial arts, wanted to play drums. And i though, if i have nobody to live happy for, even myself. Im gonna do it for that dreamy kid, before every fucked up thing that happened to him. Im gonna make him happy. And then i maybe can make happy someone else. Im still not totally clean, but im back in the lab. It hurts, everything is humbling me, but we are moving. Im 36. And there is no reason that i should not live the rest of my life happy alone.
I was addicted to making money... still am, can't stop. I've made 86 million so far. The agony of this addiction is killing me! I'm filthy rich and I hate it
@@garethlloyd4346Then you woke up 😂😂
Keep on pushing!
Keep on going......hugs prayers and respect......❤❤❤
Amen. 21st birthday and I feel this.
The tolerance, endurance and perseverance of this man is wild! Never knew he went through that much in his career.
I admire his strength and humility in recounting this story. A great lesson for us all.
Kurt really has the withdrawal experience down. It was the worst thing for me to ever deal with. And everything he said is on point.
with all his symptoms I add ....I felt like I was wrapped in a barbwire blanket!!
Do you mean the MS route he took?
The only thing I could add is the skin crawling feeling you have. The horrible anxiety and feeling so exhausted but too uncomfortable in your own skin to sleep
@@getmoneyxrbm it’s literally hell on earth and it goes for a week+. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. And I hate those mofos.
Love this man! Although I grew outta wrestling by my mid 20s he is still by far one of the most entertaining and charismatic personalities ever to enter the ring. Kurt will always be one of my top 3 all time favorite wrestlers and brings back so many fond memories. To hear that he also has been through the same struggles in life that I have, strikes a nerve, now I’ll always feel a kinship with him after hearing this interview. Thank you Kurt.
I know, I love him to. Hbk will always be my favorite but Kurt is probably #2. He was amazing at everything he did concerning the wrestling business 👏
The worst type of addiction is the addiction you dont even know you have
Amen
I know the terrible feeling of being stuck on pain pills. When you do so many and you need 3 perk 30’s just to take the withdrawals away. I was so messed up and lost a lot before hitting rock bottom. I’m happy to say I finally got off them after getting locked up and two different rehabs. Unfortunately I’m a felon and not able to get none of my jobs back in the nursing field, Postal Service or government contractor. I’m just happy to be alive for my family and kids
Same thing right here man. I went from 10yrs on pills to 6 yrs on meth. Been sober for about 2 n half years now
Dude, there is no such thing as “perk 30’s” all those are is pressed pills that have fentanyl
in them.
No such thing as Perk 30s
@@gone.golfinghe might be talkin bout the blue M30 fentanyl pills
@@gone.golfingyes there is . Perc 10 or percocet 30s
A true legend, definition of workhorse champion. Kurt had a gear most didn’t. I appreciate all you did for the biz Kurt and happy you got the help you need. I could only imagine the pressure to try to continuously perform at such a high level
My dad locked me in a room for about two weeks for me to get off of it. It was awful, but I am thankful I had that experience. I can 100% understand his fear about going through withdraw again. That 💩 is terrible!
lol
Alcohol is 100% under the drug drug category. it also ruins lives
Of course. And? All hard drugs fit that.
@@guntherwhite2043 not weed
@@guntherwhite2043not caffeine or cannabis
With drunk driving, domestic abuse and a ton of other reasons alcohol is easily one of the most dangerous things in society
alcohol? no way man. no one has ever been hurt or killed by it.
I appreciate Kurt's transparency. I hope his story can inspire others to get sober.
Mega mega props to him for talking about it straight up like that and I think there are a lot of people who will be able to listen, relate and hopefully get help if they’re in need
With Kurt sharing this story, I think he just helped us as much as he helped himself.
As an ex addict.. the worst bit for me about withdrawal is everything Kurt said, but it’s the fact that it lasts for soooo long! Day after day of the same.. and when it finally subsided, then comes the terrible depression!! That’s when most people will use again, it’s the depression that gets them.. it got me many times.
If you are struggling to get clean, just stick in there.. it does get better, I promise! You are not different to everyone else, you will feel better! You will feel like they all look !!
Yes sir some people don't understand that tho they think it's easy cuz you don't really know how to explain how the Withdrawal makes you feel
CONGRATS ON YOUR RECOVERY
I START MINE ONCE AGAIN TODAY
I wasn't able to get through withdrawals....started on Zubsolv in 2015 and have been taking one a day since then. My life is normal. I thank God for buprenorphine.
Greatest pro wrestler of all time imo. From day 1 he was a world class natural at every aspect of the game. The dude just got it
One of the best in ring performers ever and as a kid I hated his character so much lol. But as an adult I can appreciate just how amazing he was on the mic, absolutely hilarious too.
He did it with intensity, integrity, and intelligence!
@@Richard-EspanolBro, same. I couldn't stand him on a personal level as a little kid lol. One of my fondest childhood memories was watching my favourite The Rock wrestle him for the WWF title at No Way Out 2001 when I was like 7-8 years old. My brother, myself and our cousins were jumping up and down screaming for each false finish like it was the Thrilla in Manila lmao. It was real to us back then. Can't help but feel a great debt of gratitude to Kurt for all the magical childhood memories that he destroyed himself to give us
Benoit was better. Even showed his son some moves.
Nobody sold finishers better than angle
Kurt was just so good. The part of his career in TNA where he was known as "Perc Angle", he was still working better than anybody else in the business.
Happy to see he's doing so well now.
As an addict myself now In recovery, Withdrawals were absolutely terrible. I too was prescribed painkillers and 2 a day no longer worked and overtime I literally only took them to avoid the withdrawals and to feel “normal”. I finally went to Rehab for the first time and i thought rehabs would make you go through it cold turkey but I quickly realized damn near everyone in there was either on Suboxone, or Methadone and the doctors were basically pushing for me to get on 1 of them and I was going to, until another patient told me don’t substitute 1 drug for another and that Suboxone and methadone were not the solution and I owe him alot for looking out for me because now after 4 yrs in recovery I see how dependent ppl are on subs or methadone and how they just stay on it.
Kurt glad ya made it through it. Saw you in Africa in 2004 after we got back from Iraq in 2003 we were redeployed to Djibouti and saw you come through and talked to allot of my Marines about your vascular issues with your arms and how no matter how hard you lifted you could not grow them despite the industry pressure, now hearing the drug pressure…. Miracle you are alive Boss. Be well killer, seriously hats off. Thanks for what you did for the USO Tour!
I can relate to a lot of what he said. Had the same problem as a result of back pain and was put on all sorts of pain meds and like Kurt I built up a tolerance got dependent then addicted then overdosed woke up in ICU with tubes coming out of me and freaked out. They even had one in my jugular for some reason I can’t remember but it was the scariest experience I’ve ever had. After that I also went cold turkey after discharging myself from hospital and the withdrawals are exactly like Kurt said. Absolutely terrible.
Yaay you got off it without turning to methadone or suboxone! That shit is never worth it . I mean personally ive been "clean" for 4 years but I don't tell anyone I'm clean or brag about this " sobriety " I've achieved all because I'm on methadone so I really didn't " achieve" anything . Just a steady supply of liquid handcuffs so I'll never withdrawal again . Wish I could go back and just go through the opiate withdrawal instead of being a pussy by turning to methadone
Yeah that methadone and Suboxone is just as difficult of not worse than the pills or heroin. Physical withdrawals can last for months and months
Yeah I’ve heard about methadone it does sound really bad. I just knew it had to go so it was time to bite the bullet but I was smoking cannabis which I’d say made it at least a bit easier.
@@austinrandall1273 yup . Once your on it your never getting off of it , most times anyways
I can relate I also am prescribed methadone. I'm just on 55 mil. And I don't want to go higher,u just become a slave to that shit too. I'm like u I don't go around saying I'm sober but u can get back on a real life route.
This was a powerful moment in the episode for me. Because I myself cold Turkey quit methadone and I was taking 15 a day at the bare minimum. And I can totally relate with his statement on keeping a handful on the bedside. So when you wake up in the morning, you can just grab them. So you feel normal when you wake up. The withdrawals were the absolute. Most painful thing I have ever experienced in my life. And I was hit by a truck my dear bike and broke my hip and multiple other bones. So I would never wish withdrawal on my worst enemy. And I absolutely love the fact That Kurt Angle is open and honest about his addiction and past my hat's off to you, Bud.
Always loved Kurt. Never knew what had to go through. I'm happy he seems well now. Great interview.
I love hearing about other people that got out of the rabbit hole of drugs. It gives me the motivation to stay clean. Thats one journey that I would never wish on my worst enemy.
You are correct Brother I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. Another trap is Suboxone, I was prescribed it for years and it’s just as bad with the withdrawals. Like with everything you must taper off slowly. I’m happy to say I’m clean from my DOC’s but I do drink a few times a years. I hope you stay on the right path Bud👊🏻✌🏻
@brettlott570 I tried suboxone aswell but I just kept going back to opiates. The only way I was able to get clean was by moving away from everyone I knew and going cold turkey. Congrats on getting clean bro. Keep it up.
I loved watching Kurt Angle as a kid. I had no idea how much he went through until way later and have so much respect for him
Kurt angle is one the most underrated athletes of all time . Him at his peak was absolute monster . He dominated wrestling and his training and work ethic was one of the best I seen . He also took the time out and sent video message to my first cousin who got marriad just a month ago who was big fan of Kurt . His older brother reached out to Kurt and they played it reception . So much respect for this man god bless
We need Kurt on here more. This was a great interview.
my sister is 38 and doing drugs after getting out of prison for 4 years, his story is very eerily close to mine.. hope she gets it together before she ends up like his.. would suck, glad kurt is better these days
Kurt is a super nice guy met him a few times where I used to work and he's chill af cool to see him on here.
I'm so happy that these 2 biological twins have finally reunited.
Great to see Kurt in JRE! A true legend.
Perc Angle was nuts. You started seeing it when he became the Wrestling Machine in ECW. That was Kurt at his most intense.
Kurt was never in ECW. He was supposed to debut with them before the WWF but he only showed once. He didn't wrestle there.
@@ghostsamongus3370 WWE version of ecw in 2006. That's what he is talking about
@@twistidtimmer He threatened to sue Paul Heyman. Angle had some sort of promo or appearance at an ECW show not long after he won at the Olympics. This was the same show where Raven crucified Sandman. Angle basically told Heyman that I will not be involved in this whatsoever and if you use my image, I'll sue the hell out of you
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I had the exact same story. The withdrawal kept me away from the stuff after I corrected. Worst feeling ever. Congrats Kurt
I was working at the rehab Kurt went to when he came. He did seem nervous, you could see it in his face that he was going through it. I was so young and naïve at the time, chasing the hamster wheel of success as a D&A counselor. Little did I know I would end up losing everything I ever worked for a few years later. I have since come to understand that I have been suffering with quiet borderline personality disorder since I was a toddler. One of the co-occurring conditions often associated with BPD is addictions as a way of coping. I self-destructed into oblivion. I don't wish this on anyone. Each day is white knuckling through the endless torment.
good lord man, hope things pick up for you soon
I feel like I am suffering from a similar fate
@@evansgate Actually, I am very glad to report that after using magic mushrooms, and having a divine encounter with God during the trip, most if not all of my symptoms including lifelong PTSD symptoms and addictions have vanished. Truly a miracle. I don't know how else to explain it.
What a great honest interview
I love how open Kurt is makes me feel human. We all got a vice , hiding it can be worse than opening up about it
The worst of the withdrawals for me was the body aches, restlessness and not being able to sleep. Unfortunately I was forced to cold turkey when I got locked up and the jail didn’t give anything to help. Hopefully jails are helping people with their withdrawals these days. Some of my worst days were being locked up while withdrawing from Pain Meds and Xanax 😔
I broke my back doing a charity parachute jump on a weekend off from SAS Signals pre Selection course in march 03. Didn't know it at the time. Went onto the Selection in June 03. Absolute miracle I made it as far as I did. Wrote a letter to the OC of Sqn in 2015 after finally getting nhs help and 5 spinal surgeries. Explained why I came off Selection, and apologised for wasting their time. When he read my journey, he said I was ideal guy for them. Mental Health was mega he said. I said I got that from my family upbringing, my other times serving. Plus meeting the Sqn guys that were mentors with amazing journeys.
Part of my 30yr ongoing multiple degenerative physical and mental chronic and acute health battles.
I'd love to share my full journey. It may be inspirational to one or two. ❤
I started using painkillers at 14, by the time I was 20 I was using heroin occasionally. By the time I was 22 I was a full blown intravenous heroin addict. I finally got clean about 11 years later in 2009. In that time I had kicked heroin four times, each time was more agonizing than the last. And after I every time I’d immediately go right back to the dope. My first child was born in 2012 and without kids I truly feel I would’ve used again and repeated the same cycle over and over again. Opiates are the devil
Good on you bro, stay strong 💪
The agony of withdrawal is what keeps me clean, but I still think about it almost every day, even after 6 years.
Good on you. It’s a lifelong struggle. If I’d never tried Oxys my life would be so much different. It’s crazy how something that small can be so powerful
Ya I went up in pain killers till I got there also.
stay strong brother, take care of your family , we love you!
Withdrawal was more pain than breaking his neck twice. So great that he opened up to tell his story for others.
I think one thing he would've wanted to add is the unbelievable feelings of anxiety, panic, fear, regret and embarrassment. Your thoughts become so negative that it can make you beyond depressed. It's almost like being in shock.
PERC ANGLE THE GOAT
Lol
Watching Kurt being that open and honest makes me so happy. One of my legends back then!!
Real honesty, real man
People that have never been through it just simply couldnt understand... glad he beat it and lived as so many havent.
oh stop
Much love from Canada Kurt.
After Kurt won the gold medal, he gave a speech in my high school. After the speech, my friends and I were out outside of the cafeteria hacky sacking. Kurt Angle was walking up the sidewalk. He looked grim. We all just assumed that he was just going to walk his way right through our circle, but he walked right up and stopped. " Hack it up." He was so muscular, that his movements looked awkward, but he was good. At one point, he burst out with his chest to bounce the hacky sack off of it, and the rest of us all jumped back. 😆 That guy was, and is awesome.
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Love Kurt. He made my Childhood great. Always hard to hear the tragedies, but this is what has made that man. Hope he lives out the rest of his years with some peace. Big up, Kurt🎉
Kurt Angle was always my favourite wrestler, seems like a good dude, glad to see him looking healthy.
Its cool that he doesn lie and keeps it real with it. Fact is everyone has at the very least had a glimpse of addiction or what it could be for them.
Ken Shamrock and Dan Severn as well
Listening to Kurt Angle share his journey reminds us that everyone, no matter their status, is human and vulnerable. It's a powerful testament to the grip of addiction. But could the sports industry have done more to support him and others?
That level of honesty speaks to both the man speaking and the guy hosting. Incredible stuff
This is kind of sad to see because i loved Kurt Angle growing up. Glad he is still here! I guess you never know what someone is dealing with.
Keep up the good work Joe, Stay grinding
Are you stupid? He's been doing years of good work, he just interviewed another wrestler, relax your homogenous overreactive tendencies.
His story goes to show you just how blessed he’s been. God kept you here for a reason Kurt🙏🏽💙
Kurt Angle, one of the greatest performers in WWE history. A guy you loved to hate who always gave 110% in his matches. So awesome.