Regen is not well understood, and people tend to get the wrong impression. There are two kinds in this car: regen _braking_ and regen _coasting_ . The difference, trivial as it may seem, is that you get coasting when you let up on, or completely release, the accelerator. Braking is when you press the brake pedal. When you are coasting, the friction brakes will never be involved. Only the paddles set the level of regen and slowing. The left, "-" paddle is for more slowing, and the right is for less. The reason it resets unless you are in SPORT mode, is that Honda is allowing the more advanced driver to use a limited form of one-pedal driving. That is, to adjust the slowing effect based on only a light pressure on the pedal. The casual driver will only use it with the foot off of the pedal, and adjust it with the paddles only. The computer is in charge of regen braking. It chooses the best mix of regen, front, and back brakes based on how hard you press the pedal. So once you start pressing the brakes, the paddles are pretty much ignored.
It’s really annoying that the Honda Accord Touring comes with heads up display, cross traffic detection, real radar based blindspot monitoring, adaptive damping, sunroof, ventilated seats, real leather, CarPlay/Android Auto, etc. yet a Model 3/Y doesn’t have any of those things, while even a $140K Model S/X Plaid still don’t have any of those other features except ventilated seats and adaptive damping. Also, naturally aspirated turbocharged doesn’t exist. Lol. I had an Accord 2.0T Touring and it was really quick for a midsize family sedan. My biggest issue was the transmission shifted so poorly. EarthDreams is also not a company, it’s just Honda’s fancy name for their modern vehicles that are supposed to have some sort of eco focus.
I understand that the paddles are from Honda F1 technology. You can actively adjust how much drag is induced by regeneration. This is great in traffic. Slowing faster than you need to because the traffic ahead has begun to roll? Upshift". The hill you're descending that is steeper in some spots than others? Up and downshift away. Rather brilliant IMO.
It's a shame they went with some fine looking 19"s on the car, but it cuts the fuel economy to like 43 combined. My 19 Accord Hybrid touring on 17"s does a minimum of 47mpg and as high as 53 on a good day.
True. A 2014 Accord Hybrid is EPA rated at 47 mpg. 2021 Accord Hybrid Sport or Touring is 43 mpg. So it’s a nicer car with updated tech, but zero improvement in efficiency.
That is why I went with the EXL, The 19" rims look great but to me buying a hybrid you want it for the MPG so going from 48mpg to 43mpg seems kind of silly.
you can get the same 50mpg but you have to accelerate much slower, the bigger wheels affects the torque of the wheel which is caused during acceleration, smaller circumference = higher torque = lower speed/rpm. Bigger wheel = lower torque and as such more gas being used during acceleration but = higher speed per wheel rotation. So basically accelerate slower and drive lots of highways at a constant speed and you will get better much mileage.
First of all It's very nice review. You explained pretty much all point to its best. I want to say something about Regen breaking paddle. As I am driving 2021 Hybrid, I probably can tell why it reset to default everytime. While driving it probably you noticed that when you apply "-" peddle it slow down as you apply light break to put more juice in battery. I feel using those peddles is requirement based. It means when I see a car wants to change lane and wants to get infront of me. I have enough space in front of me that require me to just slow down but not applying break. Now imagine if it doesn't reset to default, it reduces speed more than I want as it applies very light break as I mentioned, which is unnecessary. And also, you may loose natural/normal feeling of slowing down car. I am not sure if it make sense to you or other, but for me it's appropriate that everytime those peddle go back to default. Sorry if this sounds confusing. Once again I like your review. And yes this is really amazing car with great combination of adequate performance and fuel economy.
No spare tire to save weight, what a load of BS. A can of fix a flat will not work when you have a hole in the sidewall, a cracked rim, or a blowout. I have had a blowout and a cracked rim on previous cars and I would have been hella pissed if I popped the trunk to find a can of fix a flat. Just imagine waiting for a tow truck to tow the vehicle to a shop or home where you have to take the wheel off and bring it in to get changed, and of course it always happens at night when their are no shops open. Defiantly buy a spare tire kit, they run about $400 from Honda (can also buy on ebay for cheaper) and if you use it once it is worth the money/time.
Love your video very informative. Just an observation, since I’m looking to buy the same exact car, It would have been nice to see the entire full view of the car while you are speaking. You covered half the car most of the video.
Thank you for the review, but as a 3 time owner of a Honda Accord I found myself wondering how the hybrid compares to a standard Accord as a baseline rather than other manufacturers hybrids. I've driven many cars but none in it's price range that is so well mannered, dependable and well built. My present 2001 Accord is still rust free, without any major repairs and in beautiful shape with over 200k...convince me to upgrade please!
Regen is not well understood, and people tend to get the wrong impression. There are two kinds in this car: regen _braking_ and regen _coasting_ . The difference, trivial as it may seem, is that you get coasting when you let up on, or completely release, the accelerator. Braking is when you press the brake pedal.
When you are coasting, the friction brakes will never be involved. Only the paddles set the level of regen and slowing. The left, "-" paddle is for more slowing, and the right is for less. The reason it resets unless you are in SPORT mode, is that Honda is allowing the more advanced driver to use a limited form of one-pedal driving. That is, to adjust the slowing effect based on only a light pressure on the pedal. The casual driver will only use it with the foot off of the pedal, and adjust it with the paddles only.
The computer is in charge of regen braking. It chooses the best mix of regen, front, and back brakes based on how hard you press the pedal. So once you start pressing the brakes, the paddles are pretty much ignored.
It's Honda F1 tech. In SPORT, you might want consistency. For traffic, adjustability.
I leased one of these in EX-L trim back at the beginning of April. I’m very happy with it. I’m currently getting around 46 mpg on average.
It’s really annoying that the Honda Accord Touring comes with heads up display, cross traffic detection, real radar based blindspot monitoring, adaptive damping, sunroof, ventilated seats, real leather, CarPlay/Android Auto, etc. yet a Model 3/Y doesn’t have any of those things, while even a $140K Model S/X Plaid still don’t have any of those other features except ventilated seats and adaptive damping.
Also, naturally aspirated turbocharged doesn’t exist. Lol. I had an Accord 2.0T Touring and it was really quick for a midsize family sedan. My biggest issue was the transmission shifted so poorly. EarthDreams is also not a company, it’s just Honda’s fancy name for their modern vehicles that are supposed to have some sort of eco focus.
I understand that the paddles are from Honda F1 technology. You can actively adjust how much drag is induced by regeneration. This is great in traffic. Slowing faster than you need to because the traffic ahead has begun to roll? Upshift". The hill you're descending that is steeper in some spots than others? Up and downshift away. Rather brilliant IMO.
Earth dreams has been on Hondas in the UK for decades.
It's a shame they went with some fine looking 19"s on the car, but it cuts the fuel economy to like 43 combined. My 19 Accord Hybrid touring on 17"s does a minimum of 47mpg and as high as 53 on a good day.
True. A 2014 Accord Hybrid is EPA rated at 47 mpg. 2021 Accord Hybrid Sport or Touring is 43 mpg. So it’s a nicer car with updated tech, but zero improvement in efficiency.
That is why I went with the EXL, The 19" rims look great but to me buying a hybrid you want it for the MPG so going from 48mpg to 43mpg seems kind of silly.
you can get the same 50mpg but you have to accelerate much slower, the bigger wheels affects the torque of the wheel which is caused during acceleration, smaller circumference = higher torque = lower speed/rpm. Bigger wheel = lower torque and as such more gas being used during acceleration but = higher speed per wheel rotation. So basically accelerate slower and drive lots of highways at a constant speed and you will get better much mileage.
First of all It's very nice review. You explained pretty much all point to its best. I want to say something about Regen breaking paddle. As I am driving 2021 Hybrid, I probably can tell why it reset to default everytime. While driving it probably you noticed that when you apply "-" peddle it slow down as you apply light break to put more juice in battery. I feel using those peddles is requirement based. It means when I see a car wants to change lane and wants to get infront of me. I have enough space in front of me that require me to just slow down but not applying break. Now imagine if it doesn't reset to default, it reduces speed more than I want as it applies very light break as I mentioned, which is unnecessary. And also, you may loose natural/normal feeling of slowing down car. I am not sure if it make sense to you or other, but for me it's appropriate that everytime those peddle go back to default.
Sorry if this sounds confusing. Once again I like your review. And yes this is really amazing car with great combination of adequate performance and fuel economy.
It would be interesting to be able to set a regen level you might favor.
No spare tire to save weight, what a load of BS. A can of fix a flat will not work when you have a hole in the sidewall, a cracked rim, or a blowout. I have had a blowout and a cracked rim on previous cars and I would have been hella pissed if I popped the trunk to find a can of fix a flat. Just imagine waiting for a tow truck to tow the vehicle to a shop or home where you have to take the wheel off and bring it in to get changed, and of course it always happens at night when their are no shops open. Defiantly buy a spare tire kit, they run about $400 from Honda (can also buy on ebay for cheaper) and if you use it once it is worth the money/time.
Honda deems the jack flying into the battery pack during a collision and causing a battery pack fire to be a safety risk.
Love your video very informative. Just an observation, since I’m looking to buy the same exact car, It would have been nice to see the entire full view of the car while you are speaking. You covered half the car most of the video.
Thank you for the review, but as a 3 time owner of a Honda Accord I found myself wondering how the hybrid compares to a standard Accord as a baseline rather than other manufacturers hybrids. I've driven many cars but none in it's price range that is so well mannered, dependable and well built. My present 2001 Accord is still rust free, without any major repairs and in beautiful shape with over 200k...convince me to upgrade please!
Perhaps we should do a hybrid shootout!
6:01 “naturally aspirated turbocharged options”
Can you do a honds clarity-plug-in-hybrid video. If you have already I'm gonna look for it. I drive one.
Thank you!
I have it but white
How was it? Comfort and mpg?
Rear tail lights are paper staplers
Well done
Looks to be a #HondaBump worthy vehicle.
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I suppose *someone's* gotta review an Accord. That poor soul stuck with that job.