I always used Dave Davis setups dating back over forty years. I have never used dodgers rigs before, but I think I will give them a try. I live in Nevada County CA and I think they would l work well in the lake up here. Thanks for the demo!!
Just beginning my long awaited journey to kokanee fishing and this s*** is expensive! But hey , you only live once ✌️Thank you for your great videos they really help!
Well, don't go crazy...You can get started with a chrome dodger, a brass dodger and perhaps a watermelon dodger. Beyond that get a few Wedding Ring style spinners in pink and orange and some hoochies in a few colors...By the hoochies loose and tie your own leaders....Tip all your lures with Shoe Peg corn and you're fishing. That's all you need in terms of end tackle to get started....Once you are catching fish you can add gear slowly to match your style of fishing.....Rig your lures on 8 or 10 fluorocarbon...You can get started for well under $100...
Would you use a dodger while trolling big bucktail flies? We lots of strikes our first day just trolling the flies without a dodger but after that nothing.
Which way do they go to the main line. Or does it matter? Does the bigger end go to main line or smaller tear drop? Same thing for the flat ones. How can u tell which end goes towards main line?
Thanks for the info! Just getting into Kokanee as the steelhead are becoming fewer and fewer these days. Your info is definitely money saving. Gonna subscribe right now! Thanks again friend🎣👍!
Can you share what you put in front of the dodger? I could not get it to sink down to 20 - 30 ft. behind the boat...even added a 1 oz. sinker. Tried speed between 1 - 2 mph. Thanks in advance.
Hi Cal I like to use a apex behind Dodgers but I lose a lot of fish when they get airborne they throw the hook, any suggestions on how to cut my losses.
Yes that's a problem you'll find...A bare single hook at the end of your line is the most reliable connection to a fish. We fish for huge tuna with no sinkers and only a 6/0 single hook and rarely lose a fish. Whenever you have a lure or a dodger, both or a big sinker in the mix, all that stuff can create leverage that will allow fish to escape. It gives the fish something to struggle against and if they achieve slack you can lose them very easily...Having said that sometimes we need all that stuff to hook fish. You won't catch many trout trolling a bare hook...LOL...A soft drag and a soft rod helps...When you see that a fish is coming up to jump you can try shoving the tip of your rod as deep into the water as possible while working the reel....Sometimes that will turn a fish that was about to jump down. Once a fish gets out of the water all the water around the gear is gone and it no longer "cushions" the head shaking of the fish. The result is that above the water it is even easier for the fish to create slack...As you can tell from this long response, I experience the same thing as you and I've spent a lot of time thinking about it...But isn't it fun to see those fish come gyrating out of the lake??!!
May I ask what thickness of the line do you use between the Dodger and the Hoochie thing for salmon thank you. Also what distance do you keep between your downrigger ball and the Flasher thank you
I like to use 12 pound fluorocarbon between the blade and the lure...Stiffer line tends to make the hoochie swim better....As for the distance back, king salmon will come right up to the ball so you don't need much. You also don't need much if you are fishing deep water. Most of the time I'm 20 to 60 feet back....
Sure you can use it...Generally you'll want to troll a plug faster than you can run most herring style dodgers....But sure it will work if you slow down...
Yes....You'll need a boat or some sort of water craft with a sonar unit...Find the bait and you'll find salmon....Stick with proven lures and rigs and you'll start catching fish...
Good product. Can't wait to take it and try it out!
I always used Dave Davis setups dating back over forty years. I have never used dodgers rigs before, but I think I will give them a try. I live in Nevada County CA and I think they would l work well in the lake up here. Thanks for the demo!!
Informative and concise thanks a lot!
Thank you . Hitting up lake merwin right now
Great video. Very good information
What length dodger should I use for rainbow trout
how much weight do you use (I kayak troll)
Just beginning my long awaited journey to kokanee fishing and this s*** is expensive! But hey , you only live once ✌️Thank you for your great videos they really help!
Well, don't go crazy...You can get started with a chrome dodger, a brass dodger and perhaps a watermelon dodger. Beyond that get a few Wedding Ring style spinners in pink and orange and some hoochies in a few colors...By the hoochies loose and tie your own leaders....Tip all your lures with Shoe Peg corn and you're fishing. That's all you need in terms of end tackle to get started....Once you are catching fish you can add gear slowly to match your style of fishing.....Rig your lures on 8 or 10 fluorocarbon...You can get started for well under $100...
Don't forget the boat on that must have list. Lol
Great video very helpful.......keep em comin!
Main line to the swivel end....Lure to the snap swivel end...Yes it does matter....Lure always runs off the snap!...
Cal Kellogg Outdoors is it ok to attach a small banana weight a few feet up if you don't have a downrigger?
Mark N you can get creative with weights to get it down. Or run a dipsy diver etc.
Hi there. What side do you tie to the main line, what side of the dodger do you tie your leader/hoochie to? Does it matter?
Nice video!! Thx!! Helps a lot1
Is it recommended to use a dodger behind a dispy diver/ pink lady? Or would that cause too much drag on the trigger of the diver?
Can you tell me what brand of dodger the Green and the Watermelon are? Also, if you have a link to them, that would be great. Thank you! Great video!
Would you use a dodger while trolling big bucktail flies? We lots of strikes our first day just trolling the flies without a dodger but after that nothing.
Which way do they go to the main line. Or does it matter? Does the bigger end go to main line or smaller tear drop? Same thing for the flat ones. How can u tell which end goes towards main line?
The end with the snap is the back end
Super video thanks for posting very informative.
Thanks for the info! Just getting into Kokanee as the steelhead are becoming fewer and fewer these days. Your info is definitely money saving. Gonna subscribe right now! Thanks again friend🎣👍!
Interesting stuff.
Thank You!
Is this setup only for trolling
I appreciate the tips. Keep the vids coming brother.
Can you for this from shore?
Great info! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Can you share what you put in front of the dodger? I could not get it to sink down to 20 - 30 ft. behind the boat...even added a 1 oz. sinker. Tried speed between 1 - 2 mph. Thanks in advance.
Hey James...To hit those kind of depths you'll need to use leadcore line or better yet a downrigger...
Hi Cal I like to use a apex behind Dodgers but I lose a lot of fish when they get airborne they throw the hook, any suggestions on how to cut my losses.
Yes that's a problem you'll find...A bare single hook at the end of your line is the most reliable connection to a fish. We fish for huge tuna with no sinkers and only a 6/0 single hook and rarely lose a fish. Whenever you have a lure or a dodger, both or a big sinker in the mix, all that stuff can create leverage that will allow fish to escape. It gives the fish something to struggle against and if they achieve slack you can lose them very easily...Having said that sometimes we need all that stuff to hook fish. You won't catch many trout trolling a bare hook...LOL...A soft drag and a soft rod helps...When you see that a fish is coming up to jump you can try shoving the tip of your rod as deep into the water as possible while working the reel....Sometimes that will turn a fish that was about to jump down. Once a fish gets out of the water all the water around the gear is gone and it no longer "cushions" the head shaking of the fish. The result is that above the water it is even easier for the fish to create slack...As you can tell from this long response, I experience the same thing as you and I've spent a lot of time thinking about it...But isn't it fun to see those fish come gyrating out of the lake??!!
@@catchamerica I admit it , I love a good jumper! Of course I have lost a couple of fish but it was almost worth it to see them airborne...
Learning as I’m new.
What would you recommend for Kayak fishing?
Thanks for the video.
May I ask what thickness of the line do you use between the Dodger and the Hoochie thing for salmon thank you. Also what distance do you keep between your downrigger ball and the Flasher thank you
I like to use 12 pound fluorocarbon between the blade and the lure...Stiffer line tends to make the hoochie swim better....As for the distance back, king salmon will come right up to the ball so you don't need much. You also don't need much if you are fishing deep water. Most of the time I'm 20 to 60 feet back....
Cal Kellogg Outdoors thank you for the useful information are you fishing Lake Superior by chance?
No I'm in California...
I will buy from Walmart. I will try it. But I don’t have boat
Well you'll need a boat because dodgers are for trolling....
I got a herring flasher can I still use that to troll a plug or no.
Sure you can use it...Generally you'll want to troll a plug faster than you can run most herring style dodgers....But sure it will work if you slow down...
thanks man
Doyers?
Thanx
I couldn't hang with all the traffic 🙄
where can i get some of them slim dodgers for the salmon
ctreynolds1000 Walmart
Is it possible to teach myself to successfully catch salmon off the great lakes?
Yes....You'll need a boat or some sort of water craft with a sonar unit...Find the bait and you'll find salmon....Stick with proven lures and rigs and you'll start catching fish...
Fish are very smart
Thanks for watching!