Love the video. I admire your smooth and methodical nature and how you care for the fish. Also, thanks for the technical info for those of us getting into trolling for trout.
What a beautiful color of water in that lake. Lahontans are on my list to catch!!!! Hootchies are one of my go to methods. Works great and it’s fun to tie up different patterns, blades, spinners, wiggle bills………
@@spiltmilt Thank You for the answer I have spent my whole life with bait on the line so its a new way for me to try and also see the result verses having worms maggots and corn ect
Excellent video. Thank you. I do so well with hoochies, however if I learned anything from this, I'm reelling in way too fast. I'm on a similar yak, but the PDL version so I'm always worried about line tension, continuing to pedal, etc. Seems like I may be overthinking that as I lose about 25% of my fish when trolling for trout and Kokanee.
I catch a bunch of trout with these. Sometimes I get surprised by catching a baby king or kokanee too. I think I've even caught a few stripped bass too with them.
Mack's wiggle hoochies are my go to for Kokanee in the PNW. On the rare occasion when they're slow, I go to a Brad's plug or similar, but I can't remember the last time I used a wedding ring. Pink wiggle hoochies with garlic corn are my absolute slayer in Washington and Idaho.
Good video, nice glass lake. I learned long ago that using lures that resemble things that fish eat is no rule of thumb. Many times certain weird things just entice them. I've found Using flies that the fish are feeding on is more a rule of thumb.
They work so well for Rainbow and Kokanee up here in the PNW. I use Mack's wiggle hoochie without a spinning blade almost exclusively. I never use wedding rings for Kokanee anymore.
100%. I use them for Rainbow Trout and Kokanee almost 100% of the time. Going to a lake (Wallowa in Oregon) with some lake trout next week. Plan on sticking to the game and using some larger hoochies and lower depth to find some spring Macs!
Loving all the videos, i havent been state side in a few months so ive really been catching up on all these videos. Ran into you last summer at brewster and ive been looking at getting an Oldtown. I was wondering if you had to price all the equipment youve spent on your kayak how much you've spent. I know the autopilot oldtown is already $4500.
Thanks again for sharing and for turning your rods for us! Are you going to go after Coho at all? It looks like they are starting to hit the rivers now. Best of luck with the gardening and food preservation!
@@spiltmilt do they sell smaller flashers like 3 or 4" long.i live in michigan and would like to try a small flasher for steelhead.can you tell where I could maybe buy a small flasher with the hoochies.thank you
Is your "Go To" leader length for trout about 24"? I know you stated kokanee is about 8"-10". I'm stocking up and getting ready for Timothy Lake and Mayfield Lake this summer.
I’ve also noticed that sometimes faster is better but what brand of dodgers do you use to handle the speed increase? I really like the worden brand but not sure they are the best for speedy situations…
You mentioned using large hoochies for fish such as Mackinaw. Just curious, would you use this method for trolling Mackinaw holding at 150' +? 10-12 oz sinkers too much?
Awesome video as usual Tyler. Can you tell me why trout don't inhale lures like hoochies or flies but take worms and Powerbait so deep that it's tough to safely release a trout? I enjoy trout fishing but hate not being able to safely release them. Thanks, Mark
My sense is a lot of times they are biting lures out of curiosity. Trout don't have hands to interact with things in the natural world so they use their mouth. Powerbaits or other bait has a smell they can detect prior to biting and I assume they know its food whereas the way they nibble and short strike lures makes me think they are curious or testing it out.
Just wondering what rods are those and if you would recommend any budget rods/reels for me ? Want to start trolling this spring, but don't wanna break bank.. just something to start with 😀
Is there a good way to figure out the depth the dropper will go to based on the weight and speed? Is there a calculator or something to figure this out?
You said you were "marking the fish" at about 40'...My question is what fish were you seeing, Trout? If so, what do they look like on a typical fish finder?
Do you folks out west not use leadcore line at all? Or copper wire. Easy way to control depth without downriggers. Here in New England it pretty much goes hand in hand with downriggers. But it does seem your trout out there run more shallow. Out here it’s common to fish for lake trout in 100-150ft and we’ll often fish down to 120-130 with leadcore. Interesting how different regions fish for very similar fish.
Lots of folks use leadcore here but I personally don't enjoy using and thus don't. I've never heard of folks going to 100'+ deep with leadcore. That must take a lot of line to hit those depths. Our lakers are commonly at depths of 150-200' but everyone uses downriggers
@@spiltmilt yeh its a pile of line for sure. To grind a flatfish in the mud at 125 feet, we’re letting out 450-500 ft of line. This year i started using a hybrid setup that uses 2 colors of leadcore behind my braid on my downriggers for grinding bottom. That keeps the ball 12 ft off the bottom for less hangups. But you lose the rod tip action compared to a straight leadcore setup where you can see every pulse of the flatfish. As for hoochies, i dont think anyone out here uses them but im thinking i should do a little testing. I enjoy your videos. Keep them coming
Beautiful fish! Are those a certain species of Cutts? Different looking than those I catch for example, out of Riffe Lake. Those sometimes have no orange Cutts on the throat like those do. Great video as usual! 😀👍
Gulp maggots are a great bait to tip these with if you don’t have corn. You can add scent/pro cure to the jar also and they will absorb it if you have a favorite you like to use.
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Love the video. I admire your smooth and methodical nature and how you care for the fish. Also, thanks for the technical info for those of us getting into trolling for trout.
What a beautiful color of water in that lake. Lahontans are on my list to catch!!!! Hootchies are one of my go to methods. Works great and it’s fun to tie up different patterns, blades, spinners, wiggle bills………
The big hen was gorgeous! That is a special lake.
Dude you are a calm and kool, savage trout whisperer!! Thanks for sharing tight lines🎣
Hi enjoy the content as always but noticed you didn't seem to be using any bait . Is this a working thing for trout?
I almost never use bait for trout it is illegal on this lake
@@spiltmilt Thank You for the answer I have spent my whole life with bait on the line so its a new way for me to try and also see the result verses having worms maggots and corn ect
Excellent video. Thank you. I do so well with hoochies, however if I learned anything from this, I'm reelling in way too fast. I'm on a similar yak, but the PDL version so I'm always worried about line tension, continuing to pedal, etc. Seems like I may be overthinking that as I lose about 25% of my fish when trolling for trout and Kokanee.
Thank you for taking the time to make these :)
Happy to do so!
I catch a bunch of trout with these. Sometimes I get surprised by catching a baby king or kokanee too. I think I've even caught a few stripped bass too with them.
Mack's wiggle hoochies are my go to for Kokanee in the PNW. On the rare occasion when they're slow, I go to a Brad's plug or similar, but I can't remember the last time I used a wedding ring. Pink wiggle hoochies with garlic corn are my absolute slayer in Washington and Idaho.
Hello again. I ended up getting my bear this weekend
I jumped off those cliffs growing up. Cool lake!
Love the fish but the scenery is awesome too!
sure injoyed this one this time, just keep the videos, om a trout man myself.. all your exlant..
Good video, nice glass lake. I learned long ago that using lures that resemble things that fish eat is no rule of thumb. Many times certain weird things just entice them. I've found Using flies that the fish are feeding on is more a rule of thumb.
For sure. Like why bass like long plastic worms that don't resemble anything in their eco-system? it's not stupid if it works.
Nice Tyler! I need some hoochies for kokanee and trout now. Thanks for the videos!
They work so well for Rainbow and Kokanee up here in the PNW. I use Mack's wiggle hoochie without a spinning blade almost exclusively. I never use wedding rings for Kokanee anymore.
Beautiful cutties. Seems like hoochies are becoming more universal for all kinds of fish.
100%. I use them for Rainbow Trout and Kokanee almost 100% of the time. Going to a lake (Wallowa in Oregon) with some lake trout next week. Plan on sticking to the game and using some larger hoochies and lower depth to find some spring Macs!
Finally giving cutties some attention!
Loving all the videos, i havent been state side in a few months so ive really been catching up on all these videos. Ran into you last summer at brewster and ive been looking at getting an Oldtown. I was wondering if you had to price all the equipment youve spent on your kayak how much you've spent. I know the autopilot oldtown is already $4500.
Thanks again for sharing and for turning your rods for us!
Are you going to go after Coho at all? It looks like they are starting to hit the rivers now. Best of luck with the gardening and food preservation!
I might if we get some rains. I live on the wrong side of the mountains for most of the Coho.
Nice vid, makes me eager for the weekend to get out on the water! What length rods do you use for trolling trout and kokanee?
7 to 8' typically
@@spiltmilt do they sell smaller flashers like 3 or 4" long.i live in michigan and would like to try a small flasher for steelhead.can you tell where I could maybe buy a small flasher with the hoochies.thank you
Always enjoy watching these awesome vid
What kind of rod and reel are you using here? (the yellow setup)
Nice cutties thanks for the video
Is your "Go To" leader length for trout about 24"? I know you stated kokanee is about 8"-10". I'm stocking up and getting ready for Timothy Lake and Mayfield Lake this summer.
Closer to 12 to 18”
I’ve also noticed that sometimes faster is better but what brand of dodgers do you use to handle the speed increase? I really like the worden brand but not sure they are the best for speedy situations…
Mack's Double D dodgers seem to have a wide range of speeds they can handle.
You mentioned using large hoochies for fish such as Mackinaw. Just curious, would you use this method for trolling Mackinaw holding at 150' +? 10-12 oz sinkers too much?
Awesome video as usual Tyler. Can you tell me why trout don't inhale lures like hoochies or flies but take worms and Powerbait so deep that it's tough to safely release a trout? I enjoy trout fishing but hate not being able to safely release them. Thanks, Mark
My sense is a lot of times they are biting lures out of curiosity. Trout don't have hands to interact with things in the natural world so they use their mouth. Powerbaits or other bait has a smell they can detect prior to biting and I assume they know its food whereas the way they nibble and short strike lures makes me think they are curious or testing it out.
Just wondering what rods are those and if you would recommend any budget rods/reels for me ? Want to start trolling this spring, but don't wanna break bank.. just something to start with 😀
The rods in this video are no longer made. I haven’t found a good med-light trolling rod I recommend for trout yet
Every time I run that setup I just get kokanee any tips? Even trolling close to 2mph
Troll shallower perhapsn
What line do you usually spool your trout rods with?
6 to 10 lb maxima ultra green
What thickness of fluorocarbon do you use for lake trout hoochie leaders?
8 or 10 lb
What’s the brand of the board you have your hoochies pegged to? A rogue smile blade covered it up.
Eng amzn.to/3AMkX6P
What rods and reals were you using?
What net are you using and would it work for both trout and kokanee? I have 8ft rods. What length is it as well?
The Ranger nets 20"x20" tournament series nets are great for kokanee and larger trout bassproshops.vzck.net/doG6g3
I use 7 to 8' rods
Is there a good way to figure out the depth the dropper will go to based on the weight and speed? Is there a calculator or something to figure this out?
There is no calculator. I was hitting about 35' with 4 oz at 100' on the line counter
If you google trolling depth chart for kayak you will find tables for speed, and weight.
You said you were "marking the fish" at about 40'...My question is what fish were you seeing, Trout? If so, what do they look like on a typical fish finder?
Do you folks out west not use leadcore line at all? Or copper wire.
Easy way to control depth without downriggers.
Here in New England it pretty much goes hand in hand with downriggers.
But it does seem your trout out there run more shallow.
Out here it’s common to fish for lake trout in 100-150ft and we’ll often fish down to 120-130 with leadcore.
Interesting how different regions fish for very similar fish.
Lots of folks use leadcore here but I personally don't enjoy using and thus don't.
I've never heard of folks going to 100'+ deep with leadcore. That must take a lot of line to hit those depths. Our lakers are commonly at depths of 150-200' but everyone uses downriggers
@@spiltmilt yeh its a pile of line for sure.
To grind a flatfish in the mud at 125 feet, we’re letting out 450-500 ft of line.
This year i started using a hybrid setup that uses 2 colors of leadcore behind my braid on my downriggers for grinding bottom.
That keeps the ball 12 ft off the bottom for less hangups. But you lose the rod tip action compared to a straight leadcore setup where you can see every pulse of the flatfish.
As for hoochies, i dont think anyone out here uses them but im thinking i should do a little testing.
I enjoy your videos. Keep them coming
Awesome! 😀
How is your rig set up?
Good stuff!
Beautiful fish! Are those a certain species of Cutts? Different looking than those I catch for example, out of Riffe Lake. Those sometimes have no orange Cutts on the throat like those do. Great video as usual! 😀👍
These are Lahontan
@@spiltmilt awesome!!! Thanks 🥰👍
What’s your go to trout recipe?
I don't eat trout that much
Hey what reel are you using on the blue rod?
Abu Garcia Ambassador C5
What lake is this?
Great vid! I was wondering do you tip the hooches with any bait? ie:shoe peg corn?
This is a bait restricted lake but you can definitely use bait to up your game.
Gulp maggots are a great bait to tip these with if you don’t have corn. You can add scent/pro cure to the jar also and they will absorb it if you have a favorite you like to use.
Is your landing net rubberized?
Yes
What strain of cutt is that in Utah we have several varieties but bear lake cutthroat is most common
Lahontan
Is that Omak Lake?
No but it has similar sized fish
Hey guy. Can you spell the name of this lake?