Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten, Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
@@armorpro573I went through the names and I found social media accounts that verify atleast some of them did go to this school, so there’s a good chance these names are legit involved.
@@jordanmince7613 acid the youtuber got his acct banned for exposing some of the hazers. he got a letter from the justice court, he could get convicted and face 2 years cuz one of the hazers complained about it and its bull💩if he gets time and the hazers dont.
If you cut out the mentions of "hazing" and recounted what happened, we would just call it straight-up trture. It leaves me speechless knowing there was no proper justice for Sanda :(
@@Kain1805"I consented to having my eyes gouged out, my ribs flayed and my lunged perforated. Yes, I know that literally all I agreed to was hazing, but this was a part of it so all of that is consensual!"
@@Kain1805 exactly, it makes a difference and no one can say it doesn't. He could've withdrawn at anytime, I'm sure they weren't going to hold him captive. That is not to say that the culture of hazing or fraternities is okay, because it's really messed up - but the sad fact is it was voluntary (up until a point where he was unresponsive, that is)
@@JG_Wentworth Torture: "the action or practice of inflicting severe pain or suffering on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something" He could've stopped it up until the point where he was unconscious. I don't defend the action of these pos's, just saying it makes a difference
Little update for the people that care: Today a youtuber by the name of "Acid" was sentenced to a suspended prison sentence of 3 months and a 20.000 euro fine that he had to pay to one of the fraternity members. This is because he mentioned the fraternity member by name in one of his videos as well as his parents' restaurant, while he wasn't actually present at the hazing, even though he was the one you see asking about updates in this video. This youtuber now has a criminal record, for mentioning someone by name, while the frat members got off with community service for manslaughter. Make it make sense.
@@253Anglelaare you…THEY FUCKING MURDERED HIM…and aw no poor rich mommy and daddy’s business has been exposed for corruption and allowing their child and their friend kill, he was just as responsible as everyone else
I am from Antwerp, Belgium and I’m following the case first hand. The case is really frustrating and sad. The justice system is failing big time because the fathers of the murderers are higher ups and most of them are lawyers. A Belgian UA-camr, acid, made a video about this case exposing the criminals and he was sued and now risks a harder punishment than the murderers of Sanda Dia. Just such a tragic story in every way..
@@Chickadeebunnydly this is absolutely true. He risks a punishment for a fine of over thousands of euro’s and even jail time. He isn’t prosecuted yet so it probably won’t all come through , but I wouldn’t be surprised if his actual punishment will be worse than the punishment of the Reuzegom members. He was also sued by the members for ‘discrimination’ while the members are dressing like kkk members and acid just wants justice. This is an absolute filthy case.
@@Chickadeebunny Another Belgian here from Leuven. This is 100% true. Another confirmation that to our justice system, Sanda’s life was worth no more than 400 euros while the lives of the Reuzegommers are almost priceless.
@@RexNoLa 100% these games only keep working because people keep believing and investing in a system that only seeks to strip them of their humanity and transfer all their wealth to the rich in the meantime. The same old game of "the next candidate says he/she will undo all the injustices" has kept working for decades and it's time this comes to an end. It's just not true. People are fooled and taken advantage of. I am swiss but I remember the case of the belgian Marc Dutroux, who - as it turned out - abducted children for the belgian upper class, but he was the one who went to jail and the ones who "were too important" are still running around freely. It's disgusting. Nowadays somehow the public is stupid enough to believe they can buy freedom and justice from the upper class whilst centuries of warfare of peasants against the "noble" (more like low-life) clearly showed that pitchforks and ropes are the only thing that bring these people to at least regard the rest with a bit of fear, though you can never expect them to actually respect you. The day we realize that will be the beginning of great turmoil, but ultimately will lead the world to a better place. The longer we wait, the greater the price becomes that we have to pay.
Lets be honest, he was a black guy and these where white middle class students probably from good families. If he had been from the same background I bet harsher punishments would have been handed out.
@@sapphichoneys4189 Mad, I wrote my comment before getting half way through the video and it turns out that exactly what happened here. So predictable.
@@cnsmoothnot only were they well off as the kids of big time lawyers, they were aspiring lawyers themselves and were able to GRADUATE after what they did.
Update: These guys went unpunished because they're from elite families. They got fines of only €400,- per person and 300 hours of community service. They got no criminal record and their names were not published. Which created outrage among the Belgian public. A youtuber (Acid2, legend btw) was also outraged and exposed some of their names anyway. He got sued by one of the still anonymous ex-members, and this week Acid got sentenced to a fine of around €20.000,- and 3 months in jail (with delay, idk what that entails, I'm no expert), and he does have a criminal record now. A crowdfunder for Acid was started and it raised about €160.000,- in a couple days. Everything Acid may need in this process should be covered, and the remaining money is going to the Sanda Dia Foundation. Acid has gone on record to say he'd do it again.
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten , Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
The fact that they covered up the evidence should have weighed far more heavily against them. If they had immediately driven Sanda to the hospital as soon as they realised something was wrong, you could argue this was a tragic mistake, but the cover-up proves they knew they were responsible for what happened and tried to avoid responsibility
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten, Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen
Hazing and fraternities are ridiculous. If you need to "prove" yourself to someone you want to be friends with. Then you don't want to be friends with them
Fraternities aren't really about "making friends" its more about networking with rich kids who can give you a social boost. That's also why its even more dangerous, because rich people who do bad things almost never face consequences.
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten, Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen
Hazing has always been frustrating. They always prey on those who want the feeling of brotherhood and companionship by abusing them. Fraternities and hazing in general has been a huge problem here in my country. One of my classmates even committed s*icide after photos were leaked of a hazing that he was involved in.
The thing is as well, the people who do the hazing are usually the last people you want around if something bad were to happen. They are bros by definition with very little common sense or situational awareness. They will push things to the limit thinking everything is all fun and games with no knowledge of how dangerous the things they are doing can be.
I can't even imagine the galaxy sized sociopathic narcissism it takes to think a dude almost killing himself is a reasonable cost for your companionship Man, even getting a particularly hangover isn't worth being some random college fratbro's friend I've met some who act like hazing is actually totally cool and you couldn't even pay me to hang out with them
I've always had a hatred and distrust of fraternities/sororities since I was 17yrs old. It's never a good idea to give a bunch of children a big ass chunk of property, money, power and booze and leave them to their own devices.
It we analyze history, it's not a good idea to give anybody a big ass chunk of property, money, power and booze, regardless of how mature they might be age-wise.
i think sanda entered with the intentions of forming connections for his future career. the party aspect is definitely a plus. however, its unfair to think that everyone enters greek life for the party aspect. the sick people who did this deserve to be brought to justice.
My mother was a part of a sorority in her college when she was younger, and she told me they NEVER did any hazing rituals, saying that they'd never hurt any of their sisters.
My best friend from childhood did 5 years in prison for the same crime while he was managing an initiation ritual at Radford University (Virginia). One of the pledges he had down a full handle of vodka died from blood alcohol poisoning. He wasn’t a senator’s son like these jokers so he went to prison.
@@Julian-qs8xqI'd say "in the American prison system?" but honestly, *no* prison system currently functions with the idea of true rehabilitation in mind. Almost all of them are focused on profits more than proficiency.
Some people are desperate for the approval of others, they are too stupid or weak minded to think for themselves. hazing in itself is just retarded, people go to university to learn, not to play stupid torture games.
It is so odd to see something topical from my country being covered by a big UA-camr. Though I'm glad you did. Another UA-camr, named Acid, was sued and promptly punished for revealing the names of the Reuzegommers who participated in the baptism. A punishment that was greater than what the participating Reuzegommers responsible for the actions got. That's right. You can get a harsher punishment exposing the monsters behind this case than by committing manslaughter.
Wtf, I live in Belgium. This has been HUGE news for the last few years. Especially around the controversy of how soft the punishment was for the "Reuzegommers". One of the most famous Flemish UA-camrs (Acid) has leaked their names because of the injustice, which sparked even more controversy. It's a whole mess of fils-a-papas getting less bad punishments because of their rich influential parents softening things and the media hiding facts. It's pretty crazy. This whole ordeal has been the subject of discussion in every Flemish household for months.
@@terrenceroll3848 They purposefully hid(e) stuff from the public, like their names and how many there where. They also got lighter sentences than people who did far less bad stuff. (~€450 each for manslaughter/murder while a friend of mine had to cough up €150 for filming a sunset while driving a bike in an empty street) Though, I somewhat agree with your point in a way. They talked about this situation for years that I got sick hearing about it; just let the guy rest. But they also didn't give all of the information on purpose and only said surface level things (like "The court case has begun today, next topic" or "The Reuzegommers did..." instead of using names) while the other news topics aren't that special or newsworthy.
I think protecting their names is crazy. They were all over 18 years old, correct? If you're an adult in America and you commit a crime, you're sh*t out of luck. The media will put your name and face everywhere. They only protect minors. (And, not always, it depends on how they're charged.) On one hand, I can understand how vigilante justice can get out of hand. Mob mentality can be a very scary thing, especially when an injustice has occurred. But I don't think they deserve any privacy. When they go for job interviews, I want them to say their name and have the employer say, "Oh, you're one of the murderers. Not interested." Although, they were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, correct? So maybe a potential employer would see that. I know that in America, you have to share your criminal record with your employer. They took this young man's life, they should face repercussions, and paying some money and having to do community service is hardly justice. At least let society know who they are. If someone leaked their names...As bad as this may sound, my first response to that is, "Good!" As long as he's 100% sure that the names are correct..Tell everyone!
The Reuzengommers have copyright claimed and sued Belgian youtubers covering this, be careful. Thank you for making a video on this, I'm from Belgium. And the horrible deeds they have done unpunished for need to be exposed to the world.
Their names or nicknames or last names are as follows: Sondage, Strontvleig, Shrek, Praeses Zaadje, Schachtentemmer Janker, Zedenmeester Proput, Flodder, Ketter, Kletsmajoor, Randi, Remork, Wally, Igean, Paterberg, Placebo, Rustdag ( you can find Dutch articles on them and about their lawyers)
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten , Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten, Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen
@hehehavah3935 now name some of the countless south African blacks who have tortured White farmers to death. Oh that's right, you ignore actual racists.
Additional: Reuzegom also previously forced people to take care of animals as their pets and then on hazings had to kill them themselves to show they were tough enough. This is from 2012-2013 i believe, im sure you will find report of it if you search for reuzegom dierenmishandeling(animal cruelty) . And still that wasnt cause of concern back then. That group is a vile cesspool. You can dig deep into the reuzengom rabbithole..
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten , Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
Fraternities and Sororities will never fail to baffle and sicken me. I’d rather go through university completely alone than have to deal with this shit. If you’re starting out in uni and scared of being lonely, please, just join a club.
I have terrible social skills, but it really wasn't hard making a few friends with my classmates. It's not high school anymore, you don't need to find some clique, just talk to some people and they will be chill and friendly most of the time
One of the most jarring moments of my life was studying abroad. My dorm mates were sorority girls. Besides feeling like a black sheep constantly I still tried to get along. One night we hung out with a bunch of frat guys. A convo about a hazing death came into the picture. Suddenly the sweetest one out of them said “I think it’s fun.” Every other person there agreed, speaking of their own ways of hazing, one even mentioned doing waterboarding. I went from feeling slightly okay, to feeling incredibly unsafe around the group. From there on out I’m anti Greek life
@@highadmiraljt5853 funny enough, my study abroad was in GREECE. The only friends I made were Greeks. They found it very weird and even more weird when I mentioned hazing
@@portalguy2246 genuinely psychotic. They all seemed unfazed by the incident of hazing ending in brain damage. Some were sympathetic while 2 or 3 just straight up didn’t care. I feel like I was in a room of sociopaths
Here are the names: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten, Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen.
Parents send their kids to college with a lot of fear, it's because they know stuff like this can happen to their kids. I'm just so saddened by this murder, I can't even imagine what his family is going through to this day.
The shitty thing is that its very common that rich kids get away with nearly everything. I saw a story about a guy in China who's mother was killed in front of him and the family that did it had become rich and basically got away with it so the son went to such a dark place during next years that he could not live a normal life(he spent a lot of the time in the army) so he slaughtered all of the people that were related to the guy that killed his mother.(he actually just could not find him). Media tried to spin it as the guy was just jealous of the money ect. but people were supporting him. It ended with him being executed.
I am from Belgium and it makes me sick these people were supposed to be the future of our country. A crime like this getting excused by the courts and the media is unforgivable. #justiceforsanda
I feel like racism most definitely had a part in this tragedy. especially when you mentioned the video of the homeless man and the students chanting "cut your hands, the congo is ours." that's a reference to the Belgian Congo and king leopold of belgium who enslaved the congolese in his rubber mines. people were frequently punished for not meeting rubber quotas by having a hand cut off or other mutilations. the belgians enslaved the congolese in those mines until the 1960s. there are plenty of people still alive who were victims... and I imagine plenty of rich belgians who profited from it... I wonder if any of these wealthy students came from families who had associations with the belgian congo mines.
From what we know, the students in this fraternity made a lot of casual jokes about Hitler and the holocaust and about Congo. Things that are explicitly fascist, racist, sexist, etc. so, I can't imagine them not treating Sanda Dia different for his race and class background (he was one of the few members who wasn't from a wealthy, influential family). Also, just thought I'd mention that rubber isn't mined, lol! It's made from sap that's collected from trees. There are a lot of precious mines in Congo as well though, like cobalt.
@@hatednycit probably has to do with race if multiple frat members have evidence of being racist use your head this isn’t uncommon in foreign countries
@@hatednyc based on all the reporting there is definitely racism in the frat, whether or not that was directly linked to his death. you're just being deliberately stupid.
@@patinabents6763 oh yeah you're right about the rubber, it's much more like a plantation system than a mine lol, I've just heard people refer to it that way. and yeah the abuse of congolese labor in cobalt mining is a HUGE problem right now. it's still essentially slave labor.
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten , Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
Im a Korean-american and my husband is Belgian and I lived in Belgium for 3 years before moving back to USA and I have never came across racism until I lived in Belgium...I felt so horrible and had anxiety going out of the house...so I told my husband that I want to move back to America and so we petitioned for him to come as well and now I have been back for over 10 years and even though my husband misses his family at times we do not have feelings of ever going to to visit Belgium.
I'm Belgian and I'm so sorry this happened to you. I'm surprised that you felt this way though, Belgium is super multi cultural, racism exists everywhere obviously (and sadly). Just know that the majority of us despise racism and racists all together. Racism is a huge problem though. It's a disgusting vicious circle which I hope one day will be broken, but sadly, I think it will be a part of humanity for as long as we exist. I don't think what happened to you is a fair representation of Belgium as a whole though.
It's a serious problem across Europe, and sadly one that many Europeans downplay, or say something to the effect of 'at least it's not as bad as the United States.' I remember hearing a lot about it from an immigrant living along the Belgian-Dutch border (on the Dutch side, but very close to Belgium), and while life as a whole got better for him when he managed to settle down there, he faced quite a bit of racism.
@@saudade7842Most western European countries are aware of its racism. 9/10 times it's just teens being edgy and not actual adults being racist. I don't really know what a country should do about teens being controversial.
Once again, a case of people with higher power being able to get away with disgusting actions. It's honestly just sad, and embarrassing that they'll allow them to get away with the death of someone pretty much Scot free. What a complete joke of the system.
Hey scaretheater I know you probably won’t read this but I really appreciate you for still uploading these videos. They take me back a few years ago when life was easier.
This is terrifying, I was so scared of college because of hazing, a reallly stupid pointless activity that many seem to enjoy and defend for some reason. Thankfully when I made it into my first college they had recently started prohibiting hazing to all students and the college would punish any student found doing that. I'm so sorry for Sanda, his family and so frustrated at Belgium's justice.
As a Belgian, hope this video makes the story explode. Sanda didn't deserve to die in that horrid way, and those psychopaths shouldn't be walking around the rest of us. Worst of all, those "sons of judges" are in line, or already replacing their old man.
Belgian here Thank you so much for bringing light to this case. Justice was not served at all. I went to the same university as the Reuzegom members when this happened. The first "punishment" our school gave was a simple essay. There was a lot of backlash for the fact that you get a more severe punishment for plagiarism than manslaughter. Only a few months later, the school decided to punish them more severely. Because the Reuzegommers come from rich families, their names have been kept out of the media. Although they have been leaked on tiktok, a big Belgian youtuber named 5 of them in a youtube video. He got a strike on his channel and is now being sued for defamation. His trial will be in September so it's interesting to see if he will get a bigger punishment for releasing a name than the guys got for manslaughter.
This is one of the most disturbing tragic stories I've heard this year, The fact that the members caused a life of a person from this ritual and face very little reproduction from it, Makes me both frustrated and sad, RIP To Sanda Dia
As a uni student in my second it’s important to remind people that you don’t need to do something you feel that is unsafe to fit in you can still make friends without having to act out remember to stay safe out there
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten , Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
They killed a guy and 1 month later they recorded themselves harassing another person. These monsters are too far gone. At the very least they have to be monitored for the rest of their lives.
If some psycho kidnapped somebody and did all these same things to them until they were dead - we would call him a killer and a monster. The acts would be considered torture. And that person would be locked up for their crimes. Yet when it's rich college boys, it's downplayed, relabeled and overlooked, right?
The salt content was not from the fish oil actually the fish sauce. We use that same brand at home and it's super strong. It's always diluted into making sauce or a few spoonfuls for cooking. I cannot imagine consuming it by itself.
Hazing is pathetic. I literally did not have to go through this, and thankfully all the people in my university and course felt similarly to hazing rituals and instead we hung out in each others' dorms/bars to get to know each other like normal people.
His temperature was not 34°F. It was 34°C. Water freezes at 32°F he wouldn’t have gone into cardiac arrest. He would’ve been a solid block of ice. 34°C is about 93°F. Hypothermia starts at about 95°F, so it’s not surprising that he went into multiple organ failure and died
The article I read said 1 degree Celsius. I converted that to Fahrenheit. I also thought that was strange. Perhaps the article was wrong or a mistranslation.
It just baffles me how they didn't just send a guy to get Sanda to the hospital while the rest cleaned up, chances are they would have had the time. Not that I'm justifying what they did, I wish they went to jail for what they did.
You're asking for common sense from the type of meatheads who would think this sort of thing was fun. Like Jesus I was thinking the same thing whilst watching this video, the only reason I could think of (other than them being complete imbeciles) is that they thought Sanda was in such a bad way that the cops would have been immediately sent to the location and they would have been caught in the middle of cleaning up. Even that sounds extremely unlikely to me though.
@@cnsmoothYeah, hypothetically, if the guy that brought Sanda there lied, which he would have and did, then they wouldn't have even sent the cops until, in this hypothetical Scenario, Sanda woke up, if he recovered that is, or he died in the hospital if there was no chance of saving him even then. They possibly could have saved Sanda if they weren't so stupid, and I hate how stupid they were. R.I.P. Sanda, he didn't deserve that.
@@BurningSuperSaiyan Exactly, there would have been questions but they would have no way of finding out where the location of the incident happened. Even if somehow they arrested the guy and got him to crack under pressure, by that time the other two most likely would have cleaned up.
i'm belgian so i get the news about this on express delivery, sanda's family still hasnt recieved proper compensation by the state and a youtuber who made a video talking about the incident got a larger punishment than they did. absolutely ridiculous
Frats are a hotbed for sociopaths with rich parents. It doesn't surprise me that they weaseled their way out of taking responsibility for what they did. These are the kind of people who honestly don't care. They're the ultimate bastards. It's why they continue to rape and assault others, even after murdering Sanda Dia. I say it's murder because they deliberately prolonged emergency medical care for Dia to clean up the crime scene. They knew hazing was illegal. They knew Dia was in an unresponsive, critical condition. They didn't care. It was all hands on deck to cover their asses and get their lies straight. Murdering bastards.
Thank you for covering this. I went to a Sanda Dia protest a couple of weeks ago and never have I ever felt such sadness among everyone. There’s a place in hell reserved for Reuzegom and their lawyers. Rest in power Sanda. ❤
It makes me feel a bit better that there are still protests happening in his honor. He deserves justice. He will not be forgotten about, & I hope the people involved can never go a day in their lives without thinking of what they did.
Few days ago a youtuber by the name of Acid had to go to court because he revealed the names of the murderers. He got a bigger sentence then the murderers themselves.
to the people saying he could've not consented at any point before fainting, he wasn't conscious enough to make decisions to begin with, a fucked up cerebellum, a terrible hangover, literally cut water supply to even get off of the hangover, and some shitty fraternity members dragging him into the car to take him to the baptism...
i know a lot of comments say this already but im from belgium too and happy to see this case is gathering attention internationally, i didnt expect this, the injustice is absurd and disgusting!
another fun fact: one of the perpetrators, the preses at the time of the hazing, was employed quite recently by ugent (university of ghent) for his academic doctorate. 😺
The fact that these things are so common is actually so horrible. Luckily I’ve never had to go through this, but I know many people who have (here in Sweden it’s common to have similar “rituals” for new students at high schools). The worst part is how normalized these types of things are, you’ll hear people talk about experiencing this as if it’s normal.
I don't understand how people can do these things to another human being and then to later call them "brother". Every step of this was not only gross, but physically dangerous and could have killed any of those boys. I have heard of some much more appropriate initiation activities that include team building and bonding type of things, which should be the point of joining a group. I know they are capable of coming up with more productive and less harmful ideas than this. It also angers me that the progeny of powerful people always get away with heinous acts all over the world. RIP Sanda. You never got to have your future, and that is heartbreaking. Edit: Oh man it really depresses me that US racist traditions are being taken abroad like the KKK and N-word stuff. I know racism exists in some form or another across the globe but those are specifically American things. Please, everyone, we must be better than the times of our ancestors. We must ridicule and shame those who think it's ok.
No? You don't? 99% of the time these people come from very well-off to very wealthy families. They are used to getting away with everything because they can just say "my dad" or "my mom" and threaten legal action at which point most people back off and leave them be. They bribe officials, pay off cops, do favors here and there to broaden their influence and eventually they'll reach a point where they are allowed to murder. If this is what their children are doing, imagine what the parents have done and are practicing. Would you as a parent allow your child to murder others and treat them like these frat guys did? Well, those parents do. They protect them to the point they got some guy who reported on it with their names got banned and is in highly legal trouble despite them being the criminals. To them, this is fun, the power, the control, the bloodlust. That's why they do it, because they can and know they'll get away with murdering people.
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten , Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
Nitpick: what is pictured, and what he presumably drank, is not fish oil but fish SAUCE which is essentially the equivalent to soy sauce but with fermented fish instead of soybeans. It likewise has a similar sodium content to soy sauce.
They just announced what punishment they will give the youtuber who exposed the guys who killed Sanda. UA-camr Acid has a fine of 800 euro and needs to give 20 000 euro as compensation to the family that convicted him.
What an utterly sickening and bizarre total opposite from my experience as a student in Leuven. My year there was one of the highlights of my life, as I was enveloped in an atmosphere of learning, care and mutual understanding. To learn about other students' experiences that are, for lack of a better way to describe it, the extreme opposite is heartbreaking.
These people can never be forgiven. They all need to be given life without parole. They're sickening and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. It makes no sense that they're being treated so lightly
@@terrenceroll3848 it doesn't matter if it wasn't their intention to kill him, they still did it. They also knew he was in danger and prioritized hiding the evidence rather than helping him while he was dying. And they also intended to harm him, even if it wasn't to kill him. Life without parole is certainly the minimum deserved consequence.
@@terrenceroll3848if you think this was an accident im worried for you. you must be so easy to be taken advantage of with a naive mindset like that. or maybe you’re exactly just like the people who killed him.
@@uglyhobo4602 just because something is old and a tradition that doesn't mean it's good.. wouldn't applying or interviews prove you want to be there instead
I have compared experiences here in America with friends from Belgium at uni. Hazing is completely out of control in Belgium, I couldnt believe what I was hearing was happening there.
In my first college, I was one of the six people in our class who didn't join a frat/sorority. I'm weirdly proud of that. Two frats existed there (for our course). One called themselves an "organization" but I think it's just a triviality. And to be honest, they're not as scary as they seem, at least in my experience. Most members of my friendgroup are in one of those frats, and they're cool people. I hang out with their frat members from time to time. They genuinely seem close. Plus, they gained lots of connections. Not saying that frats are all good. Just offering a different perspective.
I think that most fraternities/sororities are bog standard student associations. It’s the toxic outliers that get in the news. If someone wants to get into one such organization, PLEASE do your research.
Every time ScareTheater uploads, it honestly brightens my day. I honestly can’t wait for other topics that he covers in the future! I do have a few ideas for future things that ScareTheater could cover (even if they’re dark): The El Salvador Little Girl 911 Call, The Ripper (not Jack the Ripper), and the Mysterious video of the Black Woman that slammed her head against a table in the middle of a makeup tutorial, to name a few.
I've got to say out of all the things that you've covered in the past years and years that I've been watching your channel this one had me the most emotionally distraught the absolute negligence and just overall disrespect of the entire case has left me in awh. Props to you for being able to stomach all of this while spreading the word of evil. Best of wishes to the family and hopefully punishment will find these heartless individuals
Many of the culprits involved simply moved to the United States, and never served their community service. One of them, Maurice Geheniau (taking the video) is now working at Takeda.
Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten, Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen.
College Logic Haze someone to death: Online classes and community service Falsely accused of sexual harassment: Banned without any investigation, Just taking the other person's word. What a clown world we live in.
@@intruder6628 Nope, and if you say anything about it, they always try to dismiss it by saying it doesn't actually happen that much and you should just accept it.
He didn't even come from a hospital prior they called the emergency service. Also as update to one of the comments: The UA-camr, Acid, is punished harder then the murderers of Sanda Dia
Something that honestly won't shock me is that a lot of these guys are probably gonna follow in their parents footsteps and become politicians and lawyers and such, their actions likely will be completely swept under the rug, not affecting their careers at all.
Hazing is mandatory in virtually all uni in Indonesia, because essentially you are forced to join a fraternity. Every major has its own sort of fraternity, it's usually called "himpunan mahasiswa", and it's not exclusive to only those who applied to join. Every single student that studies a major should join the fraternity of their respective major, regardless if they actually want to join or not. Usually the hazing process will take up a whole semester, and every single day the seniors will make sure to exhaust you with all sorts of dumb and pointless tasks that are also accompanied with violence (although mostly verbal). I've known a lot of friends who had their grades going downhill after that one semester of hazing. I'm currently going through it. One time i wasn't able to join the regular hazing meet up as i was in another city, the seniors told me to send them my live location in Whatsapp and to keep updating it everytime it expires. And they tell you that you have the option to leave the frat if you want to, but that's a lie. They would berate you and make sure that you really feel like an outcast if you ask them you want to leave. It's like a cult basically.
Good luck with that. I hope it’s over soon. >.< Please keep reminding yourself that none of this is your fault, and you do not deserve to be treated this way.
During my sophomore year of college, our sister school had a hazing incident that was so bad it changed laws around hazing in our state and shut down that specific frat at their campus. That frat has a chapter at my college that has been on probation for multiple offenses of hazing and Title IX violations every semester and yet is still allowed to exist on campus. I don't understand how many people need to get hurt before universities actually take this stuff seriously. It's disgusting.
Another thing that makes this even worse, is that because of the fact the reuzegom members forced sanda to be near blacked out and kept him there by removing the water access. Even if sanda at one point wanted to quit or stop doing the tasks, he couldn’t make a stand because of the alcohol level.
What happened to sanda is truly horrible I’m angered by the fact that his killers are facing almost 0 repercussions for their actions this has opened up a important conversation on hazing and how wrong it is for it to go this far
At 10:28, the worst part about the "cut your hands" remark is how Belgian colonialists used to punish enslaved Congolese labourers by cutting off their hands at the wrist. The frat boys' remarks are on the same level as white Americans making lynching jokes.
This is not where the story ends, a Flemish UA-camr named Acid2 has exposed the names of some of the most dangerous members of the fraternity including 2 members who weren’t present at the hazing but were complicit in that they told the others to not go to the hospital and to destroy as much evidence as possible. As a result the restaurant of the father of the guy who told them to not go to the hospital was bombarded with negative reviews referring to the hazing (because ironically the restaurant is a fish restaurant). All 5 exposed members and the father who owned the restaurant sued acid and today he was scented to 3 months in prison with a delay, a fine of 800€ and having to pay 20000€ in damages to the restaurant owner, meanwhile all members of the fraternity got away with community service and 400-500€ worth of damages and the 2 members who were complicit via text didn’t even receive any punishment! The entire country is outraged to the point that even a few politicians are reacting to it!
I used to work both in chemistry and EMS. Drinking saltwater is far more lethal than people tend to believe. It usually depends on you body weight, because a lethal dosage of salt is roughly around .5-1 gram of salt per 1 kilogram of your weight. For example - a human weighing 60kg/132ish lbs consuming 30-60 grams/1-2ish oz of salt would be deadly. There’s absolutely no way I’m convinced Sanda’s death was an accident if they made him drink an entire _gallon_ of salt - that’s around *3,628 grams.* There is no doubt in my mind this was something far more nefarious.
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten, Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
@@armorpro573I went through the names and I found social media accounts that verify atleast some of them did go to this school, so there’s a good chance these names are legit involved.
@@armorpro573they got exposed and yes this is legit
@@armorpro573trust me they are
@@armorpro573it is, we have lists.
@@armorpro573 they are. Everyone in Belgium is pissed off and did everything we could to expose them because the news wouldnt do it.
The worst thing is that these people weren't even punished. A youtuber that revealed their names even got banned from youtube.
Straight up BS.
That’s crazy. If the government won’t hold them accountable hopefully someone will or the internet but not if we can’t get their identity.
sadly acid is possibly going to get jail time for exposing some of these ppl. somebody needs to protest or do something to help acid.
@@mercygirl317wait get jail time for that ?
@@jordanmince7613 acid the youtuber got his acct banned for exposing some of the hazers. he got a letter from the justice court, he could get convicted and face 2 years cuz one of the hazers complained about it and its bull💩if he gets time and the hazers dont.
If you cut out the mentions of "hazing" and recounted what happened, we would just call it straight-up trture. It leaves me speechless knowing there was no proper justice for Sanda :(
Well it's still a difference since it was (sadly) voluntarily, he wanted to be recognized by them
@@Kain1805 Nah. Torture is torture
@@Kain1805"I consented to having my eyes gouged out, my ribs flayed and my lunged perforated. Yes, I know that literally all I agreed to was hazing, but this was a part of it so all of that is consensual!"
@@Kain1805 exactly, it makes a difference and no one can say it doesn't. He could've withdrawn at anytime, I'm sure they weren't going to hold him captive. That is not to say that the culture of hazing or fraternities is okay, because it's really messed up - but the sad fact is it was voluntary (up until a point where he was unresponsive, that is)
@@JG_Wentworth Torture: "the action or practice of inflicting severe pain or suffering on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something"
He could've stopped it up until the point where he was unconscious. I don't defend the action of these pos's, just saying it makes a difference
Little update for the people that care: Today a youtuber by the name of "Acid" was sentenced to a suspended prison sentence of 3 months and a 20.000 euro fine that he had to pay to one of the fraternity members. This is because he mentioned the fraternity member by name in one of his videos as well as his parents' restaurant, while he wasn't actually present at the hazing, even though he was the one you see asking about updates in this video. This youtuber now has a criminal record, for mentioning someone by name, while the frat members got off with community service for manslaughter. Make it make sense.
klassenjustitie
Silly person mentioning the parent's restaurant, what did he expect to happen🤦♀️
That’s Europe for you, get arrested for calling out problems or problematic people , and those problems and problematic people continue on
@@253Anglelaare you…THEY FUCKING MURDERED HIM…and aw no poor rich mommy and daddy’s business has been exposed for corruption and allowing their child and their friend kill, he was just as responsible as everyone else
Family has money. Acid does not have money.
I am from Antwerp, Belgium and I’m following the case first hand. The case is really frustrating and sad. The justice system is failing big time because the fathers of the murderers are higher ups and most of them are lawyers. A Belgian UA-camr, acid, made a video about this case exposing the criminals and he was sued and now risks a harder punishment than the murderers of Sanda Dia. Just such a tragic story in every way..
Are you being serious?
@@Chickadeebunnydly this is absolutely true. He risks a punishment for a fine of over thousands of euro’s and even jail time. He isn’t prosecuted yet so it probably won’t all come through , but I wouldn’t be surprised if his actual punishment will be worse than the punishment of the Reuzegom members. He was also sued by the members for ‘discrimination’ while the members are dressing like kkk members and acid just wants justice. This is an absolute filthy case.
@@Chickadeebunny Another Belgian here from Leuven. This is 100% true. Another confirmation that to our justice system, Sanda’s life was worth no more than 400 euros while the lives of the Reuzegommers are almost priceless.
@@RexNoLa 100%
these games only keep working because people keep believing and investing in a system that only seeks to strip them of their humanity and transfer all their wealth to the rich in the meantime. The same old game of "the next candidate says he/she will undo all the injustices" has kept working for decades and it's time this comes to an end. It's just not true. People are fooled and taken advantage of. I am swiss but I remember the case of the belgian Marc Dutroux, who - as it turned out - abducted children for the belgian upper class, but he was the one who went to jail and the ones who "were too important" are still running around freely. It's disgusting. Nowadays somehow the public is stupid enough to believe they can buy freedom and justice from the upper class whilst centuries of warfare of peasants against the "noble" (more like low-life) clearly showed that pitchforks and ropes are the only thing that bring these people to at least regard the rest with a bit of fear, though you can never expect them to actually respect you.
The day we realize that will be the beginning of great turmoil, but ultimately will lead the world to a better place. The longer we wait, the greater the price becomes that we have to pay.
Wow that's absolutely twisted. Looks like the "justice" system only exist to protect the rich and privileged. Just disgusting all around...
As a Belgian, I'm outraged at what happened to Sanda Dia. His killers got away after Sanda Dia's family suffered and mourned for years.
Lets be honest, he was a black guy and these where white middle class students probably from good families. If he had been from the same background I bet harsher punishments would have been handed out.
@@cnsmooth Oh definitely. These students got off easy because of that.
It truly is vile to put it lightly.
Such things just shouldn't be treated like an "Oopsie".
This was pretty much sociopathic behavior.
@@sapphichoneys4189 Mad, I wrote my comment before getting half way through the video and it turns out that exactly what happened here.
So predictable.
@@cnsmoothnot only were they well off as the kids of big time lawyers, they were aspiring lawyers themselves and were able to GRADUATE after what they did.
Update: These guys went unpunished because they're from elite families. They got fines of only €400,- per person and 300 hours of community service. They got no criminal record and their names were not published. Which created outrage among the Belgian public.
A youtuber (Acid2, legend btw) was also outraged and exposed some of their names anyway. He got sued by one of the still anonymous ex-members, and this week Acid got sentenced to a fine of around €20.000,- and 3 months in jail (with delay, idk what that entails, I'm no expert), and he does have a criminal record now.
A crowdfunder for Acid was started and it raised about €160.000,- in a couple days. Everything Acid may need in this process should be covered, and the remaining money is going to the Sanda Dia Foundation.
Acid has gone on record to say he'd do it again.
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten , Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
The fact that they covered up the evidence should have weighed far more heavily against them. If they had immediately driven Sanda to the hospital as soon as they realised something was wrong, you could argue this was a tragic mistake, but the cover-up proves they knew they were responsible for what happened and tried to avoid responsibility
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten, Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen
@@hehehavah3935I will copy and paste
@@hehehavah3935 hope they fucking rot in hell :)
Normally you can also get punished for covering evidence right?
Hazing and fraternities are ridiculous. If you need to "prove" yourself to someone you want to be friends with. Then you don't want to be friends with them
Exactly, screw "fitting in" with a bunch of degenerates.
Fraternities aren't really about "making friends" its more about networking with rich kids who can give you a social boost.
That's also why its even more dangerous, because rich people who do bad things almost never face consequences.
Stay as far away as possible. Like abusive partners, there are way healthier options and plenty of them!
I always think that fraternities was about ass things of rich kids
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten, Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen
Hazing has always been frustrating. They always prey on those who want the feeling of brotherhood and companionship by abusing them. Fraternities and hazing in general has been a huge problem here in my country. One of my classmates even committed s*icide after photos were leaked of a hazing that he was involved in.
why tf would anyone go through hazing? I wouln't let them do sh*t...
That’s horrible, I’m sorry you had to experience being close to such an event.
@@RaewCZit starts off little by little. First it might be little, NORMAL challenges. And then they work their way up to more* grotesque
Edit: a typo
The thing is as well, the people who do the hazing are usually the last people you want around if something bad were to happen. They are bros by definition with very little common sense or situational awareness. They will push things to the limit thinking everything is all fun and games with no knowledge of how dangerous the things they are doing can be.
I can't even imagine the galaxy sized sociopathic narcissism it takes to think a dude almost killing himself is a reasonable cost for your companionship
Man, even getting a particularly hangover isn't worth being some random college fratbro's friend
I've met some who act like hazing is actually totally cool and you couldn't even pay me to hang out with them
I've always had a hatred and distrust of fraternities/sororities since I was 17yrs old. It's never a good idea to give a bunch of children a big ass chunk of property, money, power and booze and leave them to their own devices.
It we analyze history, it's not a good idea to give anybody a big ass chunk of property, money, power and booze, regardless of how mature they might be age-wise.
Not all Greek life is bad. It’s unfair to assume all Greek life is the same as horrific cases like the one mentioned in this video.
@@joeaabram5588shit gaye
i think sanda entered with the intentions of forming connections for his future career. the party aspect is definitely a plus. however, its unfair to think that everyone enters greek life for the party aspect. the sick people who did this deserve to be brought to justice.
My mother was a part of a sorority in her college when she was younger, and she told me they NEVER did any hazing rituals, saying that they'd never hurt any of their sisters.
My best friend from childhood did 5 years in prison for the same crime while he was managing an initiation ritual at Radford University (Virginia). One of the pledges he had down a full handle of vodka died from blood alcohol poisoning. He wasn’t a senator’s son like these jokers so he went to prison.
Disgusting
Good. Hope he can learn how to be a somewhat decent person
@@Julian-qs8xqI'd say "in the American prison system?" but honestly, *no* prison system currently functions with the idea of true rehabilitation in mind. Almost all of them are focused on profits more than proficiency.
@@JG_Wentworth How do you make money of off keeping people in buildings they're not allowed to leave?
@someretard7030 name checks out. Forced labour.
I dont think i'll ever be able to wrap my head how people can go along with this kind of thing. This is horrifying.
Usually blackmail or desperation
groupthink is real
It’s just a sign that dumb people need validation from other people
Some people are desperate for the approval of others, they are too stupid or weak minded to think for themselves. hazing in itself is just retarded, people go to university to learn, not to play stupid torture games.
It's a constant phenomenon tbh
It is so odd to see something topical from my country being covered by a big UA-camr. Though I'm glad you did. Another UA-camr, named Acid, was sued and promptly punished for revealing the names of the Reuzegommers who participated in the baptism. A punishment that was greater than what the participating Reuzegommers responsible for the actions got.
That's right. You can get a harsher punishment exposing the monsters behind this case than by committing manslaughter.
Acid is not a reputable name would not trust that guy at all.
@@samuelclayhills3298 He's one of the biggest UA-camrs in Belgium and has been on TV here multiple times
Why are their names hidden? They are not minors.
@@frankeinstein719 Because their parents have money, I'd assume.
@@frankeinstein719 they're sons of judges, and if you even mention their name on a social network you're risking jail time
Wtf, I live in Belgium. This has been HUGE news for the last few years. Especially around the controversy of how soft the punishment was for the "Reuzegommers". One of the most famous Flemish UA-camrs (Acid) has leaked their names because of the injustice, which sparked even more controversy.
It's a whole mess of fils-a-papas getting less bad punishments because of their rich influential parents softening things and the media hiding facts. It's pretty crazy. This whole ordeal has been the subject of discussion in every Flemish household for months.
I'm sure there are worse crimes more worthy of attention; Perhaps the media is less keen on talking about those, though.
@@terrenceroll3848 To me it just sounds like usual "rich kids get protected" bs that happens everywhere.
@@terrenceroll3848 Are you by any chance the lawyer of one of the Reuzegommers or you're genuinely that naive?
@@terrenceroll3848 They purposefully hid(e) stuff from the public, like their names and how many there where. They also got lighter sentences than people who did far less bad stuff.
(~€450 each for manslaughter/murder while a friend of mine had to cough up €150 for filming a sunset while driving a bike in an empty street)
Though, I somewhat agree with your point in a way. They talked about this situation for years that I got sick hearing about it; just let the guy rest.
But they also didn't give all of the information on purpose and only said surface level things (like "The court case has begun today, next topic" or "The Reuzegommers did..." instead of using names) while the other news topics aren't that special or newsworthy.
I think protecting their names is crazy. They were all over 18 years old, correct? If you're an adult in America and you commit a crime, you're sh*t out of luck. The media will put your name and face everywhere. They only protect minors. (And, not always, it depends on how they're charged.)
On one hand, I can understand how vigilante justice can get out of hand. Mob mentality can be a very scary thing, especially when an injustice has occurred. But I don't think they deserve any privacy. When they go for job interviews, I want them to say their name and have the employer say, "Oh, you're one of the murderers. Not interested." Although, they were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, correct? So maybe a potential employer would see that. I know that in America, you have to share your criminal record with your employer.
They took this young man's life, they should face repercussions, and paying some money and having to do community service is hardly justice. At least let society know who they are.
If someone leaked their names...As bad as this may sound, my first response to that is, "Good!" As long as he's 100% sure that the names are correct..Tell everyone!
The Reuzengommers have copyright claimed and sued Belgian youtubers covering this, be careful. Thank you for making a video on this, I'm from Belgium. And the horrible deeds they have done unpunished for need to be exposed to the world.
I highly doubt they're able to succeed in suing an American UA-camr over this.
Their names or nicknames or last names are as follows: Sondage, Strontvleig, Shrek, Praeses Zaadje, Schachtentemmer Janker, Zedenmeester Proput, Flodder, Ketter, Kletsmajoor, Randi, Remork, Wally, Igean, Paterberg, Placebo, Rustdag ( you can find Dutch articles on them and about their lawyers)
@@hehehavah3935 well done!
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten , Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
we are in america. ya know where we have freedom of speech. good luck trying to arrest us. lol
Scaretheater doing videos like this brings me back to the good old debunking creepypasta days, or the Casey’s Cave series.
I loved the Tyler's Last Words videos
The funniest thing is we all knew those old creepypastas were ridiculously fake but still watched in suspense
Rest in peace to ECW Gaming. Only veterans know!
how tf do i know about every single minecraft pasta but not caseys cave ive never heard of it lol
I remember they were going to make a Casey caves movie lol never happened though because it was canceled
Thank you so much for getting attention to this horrid case. #JUSTICEFORSANDA
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten, Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen
@hehehavah3935 now name some of the countless south African blacks who have tortured White farmers to death.
Oh that's right, you ignore actual racists.
I don't think their faces should be blurred. If the courts won't do their jobs, the least these people deserve is everyone knowing what they did.
There is a youtuber who exposed their identities but he faces a 4 year jail sentence now.
Additional: Reuzegom also previously forced people to take care of animals as their pets and then on hazings had to kill them themselves to show they were tough enough. This is from 2012-2013 i believe, im sure you will find report of it if you search for reuzegom dierenmishandeling(animal cruelty) . And still that wasnt cause of concern back then. That group is a vile cesspool. You can dig deep into the reuzengom rabbithole..
It goes farther then that, from what I’ve heard there was a particular incident involving pigs
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten , Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
As someone from Belgium, I'm glad you brought attention to this case. It's a horrible thing that happened. Thank you ScareTheater.
Fraternities and Sororities will never fail to baffle and sicken me. I’d rather go through university completely alone than have to deal with this shit. If you’re starting out in uni and scared of being lonely, please, just join a club.
I was sad my college experience was lonely at community college and online courses.
Now I’m happy. I can find party girls at the local bar 😂
@@DagnirRen ok
I have terrible social skills, but it really wasn't hard making a few friends with my classmates. It's not high school anymore, you don't need to find some clique, just talk to some people and they will be chill and friendly most of the time
Lmao gay dork this kind of thing is rare
@@TubeAngel the insecure fratboy has arrived
One of the most jarring moments of my life was studying abroad. My dorm mates were sorority girls. Besides feeling like a black sheep constantly I still tried to get along. One night we hung out with a bunch of frat guys. A convo about a hazing death came into the picture. Suddenly the sweetest one out of them said “I think it’s fun.” Every other person there agreed, speaking of their own ways of hazing, one even mentioned doing waterboarding. I went from feeling slightly okay, to feeling incredibly unsafe around the group. From there on out I’m anti Greek life
I find it weird how it’s called a greek life yet all it does is use a greek letter for the group name. I wonder what greek people think.
@@highadmiraljt5853 funny enough, my study abroad was in GREECE. The only friends I made were Greeks. They found it very weird and even more weird when I mentioned hazing
Psychotic behavior right there
@@portalguy2246 genuinely psychotic. They all seemed unfazed by the incident of hazing ending in brain damage. Some were sympathetic while 2 or 3 just straight up didn’t care. I feel like I was in a room of sociopaths
@@Jabberwocky112 what is wrong with this world…
Here are the names:
Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe
De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff
Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim
Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten, Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers,
Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur
Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin
Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen.
Parents send their kids to college with a lot of fear, it's because they know stuff like this can happen to their kids.
I'm just so saddened by this murder, I can't even imagine what his family is going through to this day.
The shitty thing is that its very common that rich kids get away with nearly everything. I saw a story about a guy in China who's mother was killed in front of him and the family that did it had become rich and basically got away with it so the son went to such a dark place during next years that he could not live a normal life(he spent a lot of the time in the army) so he slaughtered all of the people that were related to the guy that killed his mother.(he actually just could not find him). Media tried to spin it as the guy was just jealous of the money ect. but people were supporting him. It ended with him being executed.
I would have done the same if they had done it to my mother.
Name of case??
@@figmentcocktail3607 Dude's name was Zhang KouKou.
I am from Belgium and it makes me sick these people were supposed to be the future of our country. A crime like this getting excused by the courts and the media is unforgivable. #justiceforsanda
I feel like racism most definitely had a part in this tragedy. especially when you mentioned the video of the homeless man and the students chanting "cut your hands, the congo is ours." that's a reference to the Belgian Congo and king leopold of belgium who enslaved the congolese in his rubber mines. people were frequently punished for not meeting rubber quotas by having a hand cut off or other mutilations. the belgians enslaved the congolese in those mines until the 1960s. there are plenty of people still alive who were victims... and I imagine plenty of rich belgians who profited from it... I wonder if any of these wealthy students came from families who had associations with the belgian congo mines.
From what we know, the students in this fraternity made a lot of casual jokes about Hitler and the holocaust and about Congo. Things that are explicitly fascist, racist, sexist, etc. so, I can't imagine them not treating Sanda Dia different for his race and class background (he was one of the few members who wasn't from a wealthy, influential family).
Also, just thought I'd mention that rubber isn't mined, lol! It's made from sap that's collected from trees. There are a lot of precious mines in Congo as well though, like cobalt.
STOP. It’s nothing to do with racism. The frat is MULTIRACIAL. Jesus. You can’t help yourselves. Not everything is about race.
@@hatednycit probably has to do with race if multiple frat members have evidence of being racist use your head this isn’t uncommon in foreign countries
@@hatednyc based on all the reporting there is definitely racism in the frat, whether or not that was directly linked to his death. you're just being deliberately stupid.
@@patinabents6763 oh yeah you're right about the rubber, it's much more like a plantation system than a mine lol, I've just heard people refer to it that way. and yeah the abuse of congolese labor in cobalt mining is a HUGE problem right now. it's still essentially slave labor.
They cleaned up the evidence too, which implies that there might even be other things which happened that we don't know about
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten , Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
It makes me so angry that these evil "people" could put him through such pain and then get a slap on the wrist. Disgusting
Bro really out here flexing racism after this video.
Happens way too often when you have a lot of money and power...
Sick, rich fucks get away with a lot of this type of shit
This took place at a Catholic university. Catholics think suffering is good and necessary
Im a Korean-american and my husband is Belgian and I lived in Belgium for 3 years before moving back to USA and I have never came across racism until I lived in Belgium...I felt so horrible and had anxiety going out of the house...so I told my husband that I want to move back to America and so we petitioned for him to come as well and now I have been back for over 10 years and even though my husband misses his family at times we do not have feelings of ever going to to visit Belgium.
I'm Belgian and I'm so sorry this happened to you. I'm surprised that you felt this way though, Belgium is super multi cultural, racism exists everywhere obviously (and sadly). Just know that the majority of us despise racism and racists all together. Racism is a huge problem though. It's a disgusting vicious circle which I hope one day will be broken, but sadly, I think it will be a part of humanity for as long as we exist. I don't think what happened to you is a fair representation of Belgium as a whole though.
It's a serious problem across Europe, and sadly one that many Europeans downplay, or say something to the effect of 'at least it's not as bad as the United States.' I remember hearing a lot about it from an immigrant living along the Belgian-Dutch border (on the Dutch side, but very close to Belgium), and while life as a whole got better for him when he managed to settle down there, he faced quite a bit of racism.
@@saudade7842Most western European countries are aware of its racism. 9/10 times it's just teens being edgy and not actual adults being racist.
I don't really know what a country should do about teens being controversial.
A lot of sht in the US is worse man I am not even denying that but I feel like a lot of EU states have literal no justice systems. It’s sad.
@@complexstudiossof Stop invalidating their experience, esp if you yourself are not a racial or ethnic minority.
Once again, a case of people with higher power being able to get away with disgusting actions.
It's honestly just sad, and embarrassing that they'll allow them to get away with the death of someone pretty much Scot free. What a complete joke of the system.
Hey scaretheater I know you probably won’t read this but I really appreciate you for still uploading these videos. They take me back a few years ago when life was easier.
Thank you! I'm glad you still enjoy my videos
@@ScareTheater no problem bro!
This is terrifying, I was so scared of college because of hazing, a reallly stupid pointless activity that many seem to enjoy and defend for some reason. Thankfully when I made it into my first college they had recently started prohibiting hazing to all students and the college would punish any student found doing that. I'm so sorry for Sanda, his family and so frustrated at Belgium's justice.
As a Belgian, hope this video makes the story explode. Sanda didn't deserve to die in that horrid way, and those psychopaths shouldn't be walking around the rest of us. Worst of all, those "sons of judges" are in line, or already replacing their old man.
Belgian here
Thank you so much for bringing light to this case. Justice was not served at all.
I went to the same university as the Reuzegom members when this happened. The first "punishment" our school gave was a simple essay. There was a lot of backlash for the fact that you get a more severe punishment for plagiarism than manslaughter. Only a few months later, the school decided to punish them more severely.
Because the Reuzegommers come from rich families, their names have been kept out of the media. Although they have been leaked on tiktok, a big Belgian youtuber named 5 of them in a youtube video. He got a strike on his channel and is now being sued for defamation. His trial will be in September so it's interesting to see if he will get a bigger punishment for releasing a name than the guys got for manslaughter.
Spoiler alert! He got a bigger punishment!
@@mayrahemmerechts5867 so I've heard... it's ridiculous
Severely 😂😂😂😂 u must be joking
This stuff needs to be looked into more. It's deplorable and disgusting. That said, it's good to bring attention to this stuff. Great video as always.
This is one of the most disturbing tragic stories I've heard this year, The fact that the members caused a life of a person from this ritual and face very little reproduction from it, Makes me both frustrated and sad, RIP To Sanda Dia
Reproduction 💀
@@Epicurus48Oop sorry, I meant repercussion, It was auto correct
today i've learnt that: fraternities are very weird and unsafe places that i had no idea existed
statistically much safer than your average street in detroit ;^)
Way more of it in Asia
As a uni student in my second it’s important to remind people that you don’t need to do something you feel that is unsafe to fit in you can still make friends without having to act out remember to stay safe out there
Also these people who did this deserve real jail time absolutely disgusting
As someone from belgium, glad to see it get more international attention.
I live in Belgium and what they did to Sanda is unbelievable...
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten , Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
7 months forward.... the youtuber who exposed the murderers, got a higher sentence than the murderers....
welcome in belgium. where the elite can do whatever the fuck they want ;)
They killed a guy and 1 month later they recorded themselves harassing another person. These monsters are too far gone. At the very least they have to be monitored for the rest of their lives.
Oh shit, thanks for bringing attention to this case, especially as an alumnus of the KU Leuven
you know it's a good day when scaretheater uploads
If some psycho kidnapped somebody and did all these same things to them until they were dead - we would call him a killer and a monster. The acts would be considered torture. And that person would be locked up for their crimes.
Yet when it's rich college boys, it's downplayed, relabeled and overlooked, right?
The salt content was not from the fish oil actually the fish sauce. We use that same brand at home and it's super strong. It's always diluted into making sauce or a few spoonfuls for cooking. I cannot imagine consuming it by itself.
I have never seen this footage before but thanks for bringing it up
Scaretheater is on fire with these new videos 🔥
Hazing is pathetic. I literally did not have to go through this, and thankfully all the people in my university and course felt similarly to hazing rituals and instead we hung out in each others' dorms/bars to get to know each other like normal people.
His temperature was not 34°F. It was 34°C.
Water freezes at 32°F he wouldn’t have gone into cardiac arrest. He would’ve been a solid block of ice. 34°C is about 93°F. Hypothermia starts at about 95°F, so it’s not surprising that he went into multiple organ failure and died
The article I read said 1 degree Celsius. I converted that to Fahrenheit. I also thought that was strange. Perhaps the article was wrong or a mistranslation.
Yes! These videos are getting more available everytime
It just baffles me how they didn't just send a guy to get Sanda to the hospital while the rest cleaned up, chances are they would have had the time. Not that I'm justifying what they did, I wish they went to jail for what they did.
You're asking for common sense from the type of meatheads who would think this sort of thing was fun. Like Jesus I was thinking the same thing whilst watching this video, the only reason I could think of (other than them being complete imbeciles) is that they thought Sanda was in such a bad way that the cops would have been immediately sent to the location and they would have been caught in the middle of cleaning up. Even that sounds extremely unlikely to me though.
@@cnsmoothYeah, hypothetically, if the guy that brought Sanda there lied, which he would have and did, then they wouldn't have even sent the cops until, in this hypothetical Scenario, Sanda woke up, if he recovered that is, or he died in the hospital if there was no chance of saving him even then. They possibly could have saved Sanda if they weren't so stupid, and I hate how stupid they were. R.I.P. Sanda, he didn't deserve that.
Yeah and also that they ended getting away with it, they could have saved his life. The least of two devils but yeah
@@BurningSuperSaiyan Exactly, there would have been questions but they would have no way of finding out where the location of the incident happened. Even if somehow they arrested the guy and got him to crack under pressure, by that time the other two most likely would have cleaned up.
i'm belgian so i get the news about this on express delivery, sanda's family still hasnt recieved proper compensation by the state and a youtuber who made a video talking about the incident got a larger punishment than they did. absolutely ridiculous
As a Belgian, im glad to see this is getting attention outside of Belgium.
Frats are a hotbed for sociopaths with rich parents. It doesn't surprise me that they weaseled their way out of taking responsibility for what they did. These are the kind of people who honestly don't care. They're the ultimate bastards. It's why they continue to rape and assault others, even after murdering Sanda Dia.
I say it's murder because they deliberately prolonged emergency medical care for Dia to clean up the crime scene. They knew hazing was illegal. They knew Dia was in an unresponsive, critical condition. They didn't care. It was all hands on deck to cover their asses and get their lies straight. Murdering bastards.
Hazing has been around since the birth of fraternities. It's a brotherhood. Hazing is a ritual to prove that you want to be there.
Thank you for covering this. I went to a Sanda Dia protest a couple of weeks ago and never have I ever felt such sadness among everyone. There’s a place in hell reserved for Reuzegom and their lawyers.
Rest in power Sanda. ❤
It makes me feel a bit better that there are still protests happening in his honor. He deserves justice. He will not be forgotten about, & I hope the people involved can never go a day in their lives without thinking of what they did.
Few days ago a youtuber by the name of Acid had to go to court because he revealed the names of the murderers. He got a bigger sentence then the murderers themselves.
to the people saying he could've not consented at any point before fainting, he wasn't conscious enough to make decisions to begin with, a fucked up cerebellum, a terrible hangover, literally cut water supply to even get off of the hangover, and some shitty fraternity members dragging him into the car to take him to the baptism...
i know a lot of comments say this already but im from belgium too and happy to see this case is gathering attention internationally, i didnt expect this, the injustice is absurd and disgusting!
thank ya scaretheater for being brave enough to tackle tough topic's like this. Bless ya bro
another fun fact: one of the perpetrators, the preses at the time of the hazing, was employed quite recently by ugent (university of ghent) for his academic doctorate. 😺
Holy shit i did not expect you to cover this. It is absolutely tragic and great that you brought awareness to the tragic case of sanda
The fact that these things are so common is actually so horrible. Luckily I’ve never had to go through this, but I know many people who have (here in Sweden it’s common to have similar “rituals” for new students at high schools). The worst part is how normalized these types of things are, you’ll hear people talk about experiencing this as if it’s normal.
Free acid, please make a video about the punishment of the UA-camr ACID for making this public. The law case was fucking ridiculous
I don't understand how people can do these things to another human being and then to later call them "brother". Every step of this was not only gross, but physically dangerous and could have killed any of those boys. I have heard of some much more appropriate initiation activities that include team building and bonding type of things, which should be the point of joining a group. I know they are capable of coming up with more productive and less harmful ideas than this.
It also angers me that the progeny of powerful people always get away with heinous acts all over the world. RIP Sanda. You never got to have your future, and that is heartbreaking.
Edit: Oh man it really depresses me that US racist traditions are being taken abroad like the KKK and N-word stuff. I know racism exists in some form or another across the globe but those are specifically American things. Please, everyone, we must be better than the times of our ancestors. We must ridicule and shame those who think it's ok.
Who asked racist.
No? You don't? 99% of the time these people come from very well-off to very wealthy families. They are used to getting away with everything because they can just say "my dad" or "my mom" and threaten legal action at which point most people back off and leave them be. They bribe officials, pay off cops, do favors here and there to broaden their influence and eventually they'll reach a point where they are allowed to murder. If this is what their children are doing, imagine what the parents have done and are practicing. Would you as a parent allow your child to murder others and treat them like these frat guys did? Well, those parents do. They protect them to the point they got some guy who reported on it with their names got banned and is in highly legal trouble despite them being the criminals. To them, this is fun, the power, the control, the bloodlust. That's why they do it, because they can and know they'll get away with murdering people.
Proof that rich college kids have no empathy
Rich people in general
@@moxxy8626 No, especially the children because they have the least exposure to the world
@@emenefer Rich people
Their names are as follows: Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten , Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen. This was copied from another comment to spread the word. Say their names.
men...men you mean
Nitpick: what is pictured, and what he presumably drank, is not fish oil but fish SAUCE which is essentially the equivalent to soy sauce but with fermented fish instead of soybeans. It likewise has a similar sodium content to soy sauce.
It's sad how far people will go just to feel accepted. Sanda must have felt so alone in those last few moments
They just announced what punishment they will give the youtuber who exposed the guys who killed Sanda.
UA-camr Acid has a fine of 800 euro and needs to give 20 000 euro as compensation to the family that convicted him.
What an utterly sickening and bizarre total opposite from my experience as a student in Leuven. My year there was one of the highlights of my life, as I was enveloped in an atmosphere of learning, care and mutual understanding. To learn about other students' experiences that are, for lack of a better way to describe it, the extreme opposite is heartbreaking.
These people can never be forgiven. They all need to be given life without parole. They're sickening and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. It makes no sense that they're being treated so lightly
Life without parole is quite harsh for an accident, isn't it?
@@terrenceroll3848 of course it was an accident...
@@terrenceroll3848they stole Sandas life. Lets stole theirs
@@terrenceroll3848 it doesn't matter if it wasn't their intention to kill him, they still did it. They also knew he was in danger and prioritized hiding the evidence rather than helping him while he was dying. And they also intended to harm him, even if it wasn't to kill him. Life without parole is certainly the minimum deserved consequence.
@@terrenceroll3848if you think this was an accident im worried for you. you must be so easy to be taken advantage of with a naive mindset like that. or maybe you’re exactly just like the people who killed him.
Why are their faces and voices blurred?? This is disgusting....I hope they meet a worst fate.
Hazing has been around since the birth of fraternities. It's a brotherhood. Hazing is a ritual to prove that you want to be there.
@@uglyhobo4602yeah and its being banned more and more in the USA. Regardless of what you think, it is going away, fuck hazing and the pigs who do it
@@uglyhobo4602 just because something is old and a tradition that doesn't mean it's good.. wouldn't applying or interviews prove you want to be there instead
@@getyoteladz3536 you've never been in a frat or college have you ?
@@uglyhobo4602 they straight up don't exist in my country
I have compared experiences here in America with friends from Belgium at uni. Hazing is completely out of control in Belgium, I couldnt believe what I was hearing was happening there.
In my first college, I was one of the six people in our class who didn't join a frat/sorority. I'm weirdly proud of that.
Two frats existed there (for our course). One called themselves an "organization" but I think it's just a triviality. And to be honest, they're not as scary as they seem, at least in my experience. Most members of my friendgroup are in one of those frats, and they're cool people. I hang out with their frat members from time to time. They genuinely seem close. Plus, they gained lots of connections. Not saying that frats are all good. Just offering a different perspective.
I think that most fraternities/sororities are bog standard student associations. It’s the toxic outliers that get in the news.
If someone wants to get into one such organization, PLEASE do your research.
Every time ScareTheater uploads, it honestly brightens my day. I honestly can’t wait for other topics that he covers in the future! I do have a few ideas for future things that ScareTheater could cover (even if they’re dark): The El Salvador Little Girl 911 Call, The Ripper (not Jack the Ripper), and the Mysterious video of the Black Woman that slammed her head against a table in the middle of a makeup tutorial, to name a few.
How can a story like this brighten your day though?
Thank you for covering this sinister and sad situation. RIP, Sanda.
I've got to say out of all the things that you've covered in the past years and years that I've been watching your channel this one had me the most emotionally distraught the absolute negligence and just overall disrespect of the entire case has left me in awh. Props to you for being able to stomach all of this while spreading the word of evil. Best of wishes to the family and hopefully punishment will find these heartless individuals
The fact that a school allowed this to even happen for what looks like years is way beyond me
Many of the culprits involved simply moved to the United States, and never served their community service. One of them, Maurice Geheniau (taking the video) is now working at Takeda.
Update: The youtuber who made a video revealing there names has to pay 20.000€ and 3 months probation.
Donald De Vinck, Alexander Garmyn, Phillipe De Geest, Jef Jonkers, Bram Lebleu, Jeff Slosse, Zazou Bindi, Owen Vangrunderbeek, Julien De Visscher, Willem Peeters, Maxim Peeters, Simon Peeters, Benoit Plaitin, Jerome Verstraeten, Pierre Onghena, Leon Lesseliers, Taras Moychan, Viktor Knevels, Arthur Geheniao, Maurice Geheniao, Quentin Walters, Arthur Versavel, Joachim Meeusen.
College Logic
Haze someone to death: Online classes and community service
Falsely accused of sexual harassment: Banned without any investigation, Just taking the other person's word.
What a clown world we live in.
Worst thing is, we can't even do anything about it
@@intruder6628 Nope, and if you say anything about it, they always try to dismiss it by saying it doesn't actually happen that much and you should just accept it.
@@TheBlockerNator exactly
Such a great UA-camr been watching for a long time now. Great that you’ve shown light on this case
He didn't even come from a hospital prior they called the emergency service.
Also as update to one of the comments: The UA-camr, Acid, is punished harder then the murderers of Sanda Dia
Something that honestly won't shock me is that a lot of these guys are probably gonna follow in their parents footsteps and become politicians and lawyers and such, their actions likely will be completely swept under the rug, not affecting their careers at all.
I’m so glad people are finally talking about this! The fact that these scumbags got away with it makes me sick
“Some of the strongest bonds are created in fraternities”
Lolllllll
Thanks for making this video. This report was better than anything I've seen in the Belgian media about it. Great job 👍.
I didn't think hazing was a thing outside of America.. especially in Europe. It is a disgusting thing.
In Portugal hazing is university wide, it's not to join a frat or sorority it's for everyone that's starting uni
Hazing is mandatory in virtually all uni in Indonesia, because essentially you are forced to join a fraternity. Every major has its own sort of fraternity, it's usually called "himpunan mahasiswa", and it's not exclusive to only those who applied to join. Every single student that studies a major should join the fraternity of their respective major, regardless if they actually want to join or not. Usually the hazing process will take up a whole semester, and every single day the seniors will make sure to exhaust you with all sorts of dumb and pointless tasks that are also accompanied with violence (although mostly verbal). I've known a lot of friends who had their grades going downhill after that one semester of hazing. I'm currently going through it. One time i wasn't able to join the regular hazing meet up as i was in another city, the seniors told me to send them my live location in Whatsapp and to keep updating it everytime it expires. And they tell you that you have the option to leave the frat if you want to, but that's a lie. They would berate you and make sure that you really feel like an outcast if you ask them you want to leave. It's like a cult basically.
Good luck with that. I hope it’s over soon. >.<
Please keep reminding yourself that none of this is your fault, and you do not deserve to be treated this way.
@@ArDeeMee Thank you so much, i really appreciate that.
It’s much bigger outside of the US, ti anything.
During my sophomore year of college, our sister school had a hazing incident that was so bad it changed laws around hazing in our state and shut down that specific frat at their campus. That frat has a chapter at my college that has been on probation for multiple offenses of hazing and Title IX violations every semester and yet is still allowed to exist on campus. I don't understand how many people need to get hurt before universities actually take this stuff seriously. It's disgusting.
Another thing that makes this even worse, is that because of the fact the reuzegom members forced sanda to be near blacked out and kept him there by removing the water access. Even if sanda at one point wanted to quit or stop doing the tasks, he couldn’t make a stand because of the alcohol level.
as someone who lives in belgium i am disgusted what happend may he rest in peace in heaven
What happened to sanda is truly horrible I’m angered by the fact that his killers are facing almost 0 repercussions for their actions this has opened up a important conversation on hazing and how wrong it is for it to go this far
At 10:28, the worst part about the "cut your hands" remark is how Belgian colonialists used to punish enslaved Congolese labourers by cutting off their hands at the wrist. The frat boys' remarks are on the same level as white Americans making lynching jokes.
This is not where the story ends, a Flemish UA-camr named Acid2 has exposed the names of some of the most dangerous members of the fraternity including 2 members who weren’t present at the hazing but were complicit in that they told the others to not go to the hospital and to destroy as much evidence as possible. As a result the restaurant of the father of the guy who told them to not go to the hospital was bombarded with negative reviews referring to the hazing (because ironically the restaurant is a fish restaurant). All 5 exposed members and the father who owned the restaurant sued acid and today he was scented to 3 months in prison with a delay, a fine of 800€ and having to pay 20000€ in damages to the restaurant owner, meanwhile all members of the fraternity got away with community service and 400-500€ worth of damages and the 2 members who were complicit via text didn’t even receive any punishment!
The entire country is outraged to the point that even a few politicians are reacting to it!
Thank you for sharing this. This is disgusting. Each and every one of those members deserves to rot. #JUSTICEFORSANDA
I used to work both in chemistry and EMS. Drinking saltwater is far more lethal than people tend to believe. It usually depends on you body weight, because a lethal dosage of salt is roughly around .5-1 gram of salt per 1 kilogram of your weight. For example - a human weighing 60kg/132ish lbs consuming 30-60 grams/1-2ish oz of salt would be deadly.
There’s absolutely no way I’m convinced Sanda’s death was an accident if they made him drink an entire _gallon_ of salt - that’s around *3,628 grams.* There is no doubt in my mind this was something far more nefarious.
people are fucking insane, I don't understand the psychology behind wanting to do something like this to a person