S.I.’s Chris Mannix: Too Many 3-Pointers are Ruining the NBA | The Rich Eisen Show

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  • @Salemslot77
    @Salemslot77 4 дні тому +92

    Too many threes is only a fraction of the problem. It's also the "I don't feel like playing" attitude of players like Embiid and Zion, it's the "lack of competition" on the court, eg. The All Star game. This also includes the "softness" in the NBA where you can't touch someone without it being a flagrant. I also think people have a general NBA fatigue from shows like First Take, and people like Stephen A Smith who are really unlikeable. All of this adds up to create a product that people are walking away from.

    • @chrisuncleahmad666
      @chrisuncleahmad666 4 дні тому +2

      And yet people pine for the days of flagrant fouls considered tough defense

    • @EllisCarver
      @EllisCarver 4 дні тому +1

      Embiid and Zion have never said anything like they don't feel like playing. Minutes are currency in the NBA, you don't get paid or get far without playing. They may need better conditioning, but they've also really bad luck.

    • @sparksdrinker5650
      @sparksdrinker5650 4 дні тому +1

      A very large fraction, like at least 1/2

    • @j.d.6915
      @j.d.6915 4 дні тому +2

      ​@@EllisCarver Embiid and Zion wouldn't be playing if they were around 40 years ago, not because they were soft, but because they have injuries that would be career ending instead of playing 50 games a year.

    • @RXSSILVERDEATH
      @RXSSILVERDEATH 3 дні тому +2

      @@EllisCarversaying you arent going to play back to backs during the season is ridiculous. Especially when said player has had an injury history around playoff time but that didnt stop him from playing the extra games at the olympics. Its a terrible look when you are getting paid millions and millions of dollars.

  • @colemilz
    @colemilz 4 дні тому +46

    NBA Cup is just a waste of time. Lakers won last year and their head coach got fired. The courts are an eyesore and feels like a huge gimmick for money
    The ability to watch games legally has become way too expensive for most to reason with

  • @BMXAuthority
    @BMXAuthority 3 дні тому +14

    1) Move the 3pt line back 3 feet. 2) Eliminate the corner 3. 3) Remove the 3 second rule. 4) Bring back hand checking. 5) Pay players per game, not per season. 6) Stop letting them travel every play. 7) Stop calling the ticky tac fouls. 8) A player should only be allowed to be traded once every 5 seasons.
    Bring back hussle, rivalries, and a variety of different ways to play and win. Bottom line, the product is boring, repetitive and low effort. Late 90's early 2000's basketball style should be the goal.

    • @bigslim5700
      @bigslim5700 День тому +2

      Remove the 3-point line all together and people will see who has game. Also take away zone and play man to man.

    • @bucksdiaryfan
      @bucksdiaryfan День тому

      yessssssssss... I've been preaching the "three point dome" for years

  • @cyclopsboi
    @cyclopsboi 4 дні тому +99

    you want to know why no one is watching the nba? Try watching the nba without paying for cable, or league pass. As an example for the next week there are a bunch of games on regular tv on christmas day and all of the other 45 games being played between now and then are either on cable or not being shown at all. How can you have high viewership ratings when people cant even watch the games?

    • @robertkessler7423
      @robertkessler7423 4 дні тому +2

      HBO Max which is included in any AT&T subscription is able to broadcast NBA games. I highly recommend getting on this program and start enjoying more NBA content!!

    • @OEx25
      @OEx25 4 дні тому +4

      Finally someone with a brain

    • @Name_Of_Black
      @Name_Of_Black 3 дні тому +7

      YES!! I live in Indiana and the Pacers are not on local television. They want me to subscribe to Bally Sports. I live in Indiana, I should be able to watch the team, the same way people watch NFL.

    • @DomViktor
      @DomViktor 3 дні тому +2

      While I don't like the pay wall, I don't think that's a reason at all. NFL has always been expensive to watch and yet ratings are high. It really is the 3pointers killing the game. Every team today is a carbon copy of each other. Back then every team had it's own identity.

    • @nirguna17
      @nirguna17 3 дні тому +2

      @@DomViktorvast majority of NFL games are on CBS, NBC, ABC and FOX. All network tv, not cable.

  • @byronmantor2511
    @byronmantor2511 3 дні тому +7

    The NBA needs to bring back the hand check by defenders to neutralize all the 3s.

  • @laartwork
    @laartwork 3 дні тому +22

    I commented this 7 years ago and everyone said I am a boomer and to deal with it.

    • @LembeckIsStaying
      @LembeckIsStaying 2 дні тому +2

      Yep, now those same kids are pushing 30 and complaining 😂😂😂

  • @NuFo
    @NuFo 4 дні тому +51

    7’ centers shooting 3’s is what made me lose interest

    • @mrdeebo313
      @mrdeebo313 3 дні тому +4

      Wemby took 15 3s last night. I don't care that he made 7 of them, I don't want to watch a 7'5 guy shoot that many outside shots

    • @alfiey5783
      @alfiey5783 3 дні тому

      @@mrdeebo313last game be made 1/9
      Then 4/13
      Couldnt careless he makes 100

    • @Cinderella121
      @Cinderella121 2 дні тому

      Me too. It used to be a cool novelty with players like Dirk but now it’s boring

    • @LembeckIsStaying
      @LembeckIsStaying 2 дні тому

      It's like throwing a punch when you have a switch in your hand. Totally negates your advantage. 😂😂😂

    • @angelcanez4426
      @angelcanez4426 День тому +1

      @@mrdeebo313 I want to see him post people up & dream shake guys

  • @primafacie9721
    @primafacie9721 4 дні тому +24

    Fans, regardless of the sport, that equate high scores to a high quality game are getting their just rewards. I've seen great low scoring games where almost every possession was important get labeled as boring by 'expert' commentators because it wasn't a 3 point shooting drill.

    • @scarletspider1240
      @scarletspider1240 4 дні тому +4

      I’d rather watch a defensive brawl than a high scoring fast paced game where no one even tries playing defense.

    • @jacklumsden7444
      @jacklumsden7444 4 дні тому +3

      My wrestling coach used to say a 12 to 10 match is just two wrestlers that suck.

    • @williammasters1620
      @williammasters1620 2 дні тому

      Exactly!!

  • @Heraclitean
    @Heraclitean 4 дні тому +40

    If you move the 3 pt line back, yes some players will still make them but percentages overall will drop, which will cause teams to change strategies. How is that not completely obvious.

    • @tylerschwab3474
      @tylerschwab3474 4 дні тому +1

      I agree. If you took it back a couple more feet the overall percentages would drop at least 2-4%... Which would make teams think a little bit more about how many they want to shoot

    • @chrisuncleahmad666
      @chrisuncleahmad666 4 дні тому +2

      Because we need to artificially inflate defenses?
      They did that in the early 2000s and it created the Dead Ball Era

    • @bryanclark3151
      @bryanclark3151 4 дні тому +3

      @@chrisuncleahmad666 It's not about artificially inflating defenses.
      By pushing the 3-point line back (and thus lowering the number of 3-point attempts), the NBA can diversify the offensive play. We'll see more driving to the basket, which I think all basketball fans enjoy watching. We may see more "old school" post-up play. And good teams should be moving the ball more to create good shots rather than taking pull-up 3s.

    • @Heraclitean
      @Heraclitean 4 дні тому +1

      @@chrisuncleahmad666It's just adjusting the game to fit the skills of today's players. Back in the day, guys who could hit the 3 consistently were rare. And bigs who could were even rarer. So it would've been insane to base your offense on that. Which made for actual basketball and not 3 pt shooting contests.

    • @JJ_5289
      @JJ_5289 4 дні тому +1

      Heres the thing, the nba could take action like that to improve play, but will they? We currently have a lot of players that have made their careers on 3 point shooting, and made a lot of money because of it. Especially smaller players. To drastically change tbe 3 point line is going to piss off a lot of players. In a leagur where the players already have a lot of power. It could lead to another lockout/strike.
      I dont know what the answer is. Maybe bring back hand checking and hope the number of attempts come down a bit

  • @jackwidmann1373
    @jackwidmann1373 4 дні тому +10

    Each year I have lost more and more interest, which saddens me bc I truly loved it in the 80’s and 90’s. I just don’t care for the chucking up the ball and guys stand around, the load management, the lack of rivalries/animosity, and the lack of D.

    • @nickmoyer9112
      @nickmoyer9112 День тому +1

      I even enjoyed it in the early 00’s and up to about 2016. The last 10 years are a really bad trend for the league. Bad refereeing, too many 3’s, no defense. It’s boring and I think American viewership is going to continue to decline which maybe is what it takes for the league to bring in rule changes to fix the problems. Only issue is the sport is so popular globally that Americans not watching may not effect there bottom dollar.

    • @The_king567
      @The_king567 18 годин тому

      Defense don’t matter

    • @The_king567
      @The_king567 18 годин тому

      @@nickmoyer9112nobody likes defense

    • @jackwidmann1373
      @jackwidmann1373 18 годин тому

      @ obviously that’s the case, doesn’t make it right. It’s half the game, that’s all.

    • @nickmoyer9112
      @nickmoyer9112 18 годин тому

      @@The_king567 nobody likes games where the score is 146-120 and both teams attempted forty 3’s going 12-40. Boring

  • @MikeMAB-o3h
    @MikeMAB-o3h 4 дні тому +11

    Fix traveling and player development. I see the reliance on 3s as a lack of development of players to take to the paint.

    • @chrisuncleahmad666
      @chrisuncleahmad666 4 дні тому +1

      And yet when everybody took to the paint, it led to selfish 1 on 1 heroball

  • @aztronomy7457
    @aztronomy7457 4 дні тому +16

    What Jason Williams said makes a lot of sense. There’s no more creativity anymore. These kids grew up in AAU camps, not the local courts, and spend 100% of their time practicing drills. You can’t become an artist doing only drills. Outside of Luka and Joker (who came up in Europe) there’s no artists. Just technicians. I miss fancy passes, fadeaways, fakes.

    • @KillenEMsoftly
      @KillenEMsoftly 3 дні тому

      haliburton? lamelo? sounds racist. fadeaways? do u watch demar? pg?

    • @aztronomy7457
      @aztronomy7457 3 дні тому

      @ he said “racist” lmaooo

    • @bigbrytunney8753
      @bigbrytunney8753 3 дні тому +1

      That's interesting because didn't Kobe criticize the AAU camps for not teaching fundamentals and just running 5-on-5's where these young kids run up and down the floor going to the basket and jacking up 3's? It seems to me this newer generation are neither 'artist's' or 'technicians' but just great athletes relying strictly on their physical gifts. At least thats what i got out of Kobe's criticism

  • @bodine1231
    @bodine1231 4 дні тому +8

    Remove the corner three that way it’s easier to defend.

  • @tommyfavorite7977
    @tommyfavorite7977 2 дні тому +2

    “Moving the 3-pt line back won’t change anything” is a cop-out. Moving the ENTIRE line back would eliminate the corner, making the current trend of extreme spacing impossible and making the perimeter easier to defend. It’s not about whether guys can hit the shot, it’s about whether it’s statistically advantageous to ONLY take those shots. And right now it is.

  • @tbirdbrad3210
    @tbirdbrad3210 4 дні тому +3

    The line absolutely needs to be fatter away like 6 feet. And the 3 point line ends at the break, eliminating the easier corner three, reducing the volume and percentage of makes of threes

  • @ijdgaf323
    @ijdgaf323 4 дні тому +8

    Too many raw 1 n done college players coming into the league is one of the NBA’s biggest problems. They need more time to grow before they hit the big time.

    • @sp123
      @sp123 3 дні тому

      Ppl forget that Jordan and Bird played three years in college.

    • @LembeckIsStaying
      @LembeckIsStaying 2 дні тому

      It's crazy how the league is so stale that's like 5th on the list

  • @pedrothejerk3008
    @pedrothejerk3008 4 дні тому +11

    maybe they need to deduct -1 for each missed 3PT attempt.

    • @johnperrigo6474
      @johnperrigo6474 4 дні тому +2

      Interesting.

    • @lrob5657
      @lrob5657 3 дні тому +2

      That is the best idea I’ve heard. Start making these guys accountable. These guys will think twice if you’re taking points off the board and hurting the team

    • @jeffkan1
      @jeffkan1 3 дні тому +2

      Veeeery interesting idea. Hmm for example, a team goes 13-36 on 3's in a game ... +39 on the makes, -23 on the misses. *nodding and smiling* Veeery interesting.

  • @climhyung
    @climhyung 2 дні тому +2

    if you get rid of the corner three it will dramatically lower the numbers because it will be easier to defend

  • @arcsphere
    @arcsphere 3 дні тому +2

    I used to watch NBA games all the time. I almost never watch regular season games now.

  • @scottypop1914
    @scottypop1914 4 дні тому +4

    you absolutely could move the 3 point line. If the math equalizes the 2 and 3 point shot less teams will just chuck all game. I say get rid of the corner 3 and move the line back a foot.

  • @brianmacadam4793
    @brianmacadam4793 4 дні тому +16

    I have two issues for me:
    THE TRAVEL RULE ! Is it two steps or three steps...
    The decision to take defence out of the game.
    Jordan was an All NBA defensive all star year in, year out.
    They don't even talk about defence anymore.

    • @chrisuncleahmad666
      @chrisuncleahmad666 4 дні тому +2

      I damn near walked away from caring about basketball for the opposite reasons:
      Basically too much defense and 0 scoring
      When every other game was 86-83 all we heard was defense 24/7

    • @juliusjean-baptiste924
      @juliusjean-baptiste924 4 дні тому

      Even Kobe during his prime was a decent defender. Not Jordan level but he was playing some good defense.

    • @brianmacadam4793
      @brianmacadam4793 4 дні тому

      Agreed

    • @KillenEMsoftly
      @KillenEMsoftly 3 дні тому +1

      they didnt take defense out the game, its just offense got better. every player can shoot 3s and have more moves than before.

    • @brianmacadam4793
      @brianmacadam4793 3 дні тому +1

      My big problem is the "travel ( NON ) rule" I played college ball and prided myself on good D, but you give that extra step to the ballcarrier and its game over !

  • @p.f.912
    @p.f.912 4 дні тому +17

    With respect - it's not the 3 point shot that is destroying the NBA.
    This generation of players is soft. They refuse to go all out and play 82 games.
    The commish had to throw $500k incentives for a NBA cup at them.
    *How to fix the All Star game*
    Head coaches are previous players from the 80s and 90s - with carte blanche to sit All Stars the rest of the game who do not defend or play at 100%

    • @kiingphresh9328
      @kiingphresh9328 4 дні тому

      ASG needs 10 min quarters, 2 captains select the teams & a faster shot clocc or sumn

    • @snowman9642
      @snowman9642 4 дні тому +1

      ⁠@@kiingphresh9328 having captains pick teams seems unprofessional. Football is garbage and is now flag football, but started with picking teams.

    • @snowman9642
      @snowman9642 4 дні тому

      @@kiingphresh9328 maybe make NBA contracts non-guarantee. And the winner of the All-star game gets a guaranteed next years contract.

    • @rubaiyat300
      @rubaiyat300 4 дні тому

      @@snowman9642 Almost any player playing in the All-Star game would effectively have a guaranteed contract. They are more or less the top 30-35 players in the league at any given time. Which is a notable number because there are 30 teams in the league. And not paying an All-Star guy that gets hurt in the 2nd half of a season is a super fast way to lose a star for life, and if you irk their agent or agency by doing that it could be even worse for you. You'd have to move the game to the end of the season like the NFL did, but it doesn't work for other reasons to do that.

    • @snowman9642
      @snowman9642 4 дні тому

      @@rubaiyat300 ok…. This Allstar game has been played before, and at a high level. Explain all their injuries, nope, never happened. These guys are athletes. They can survive playing a game they’re getting paid for.

  • @209bornandbred
    @209bornandbred 4 дні тому +5

    The NBA sucks and has sucked for several yrs now because almost every team is the same and they are the same because of the reliance on the 3... you used to be able to watch a clash of teams with different strengths to see which one wins out, but now all u see is every team with 8 rotating guys who can jack up 3's all day... back to the basket paint scorers are basically extinct and midrange shooting is going that way too
    If every single NFL QB only attempted 30 yard passes every single snap with very little variety on offense I think they would lose viewers too... idk how the NBA could fix this but I know its broken and needs to be fixed

  • @SteveSoper1979
    @SteveSoper1979 3 дні тому +3

    I disagree with is assessment that moving the line back won't work because guys can pull up from 25 anyways. We know the league is analytics ran now a days. They shoot so many 3s because it's statically a better shot. "if we as a team can shoot X percent from 3 (lets say 35-40 I don't know what the magic number is) then we'll score more." Well if you keep moving the line back, the shooting % will drop. Nobody will shoot the same % a few feet back compared to a few feet closer. Therefore, the analytics people would adjust and then factor in "maybe we should work inside the 3 more for higher % shots because we're not shooting well enough from 3 with the line being so far back".

  • @choomlaboom9203
    @choomlaboom9203 23 години тому +1

    Have it so that only one offensive player can be behind the 3 point line once the ball passes half court. Any other player that goes behind it has 3 seconds to vacate the area.

  • @MMWoodworking
    @MMWoodworking 4 дні тому +3

    It’s not about the 3pt shot! It’s about NBA players no longer caring, and viewers can sense it. Load management is going to destroy the league. It’s that simple. You can no longer buy tickets to see a star and know they will play. You can no longer set aside a few hours to flip on a game and expect to see top players playing.
    If the players and teams don’t care, viewers won’t care.
    There’s a reason it’s jokingly called the 82 game preseason. Most games aren’t taken seriously until the playoffs.

    • @bigbrytunney8753
      @bigbrytunney8753 3 дні тому

      well said. This "3pt shot" narrative is a lot like the "cover 2" nonsense the NFL media tried pushing on the public a few months back

    • @tbone7679
      @tbone7679 День тому

      Maybe some of the players don’t care- which is mostly bs by the way, because they think jacking up 3s isn’t bball worthy of caring about.

  • @TrueTalesVideo
    @TrueTalesVideo День тому +2

    an epidemic of 3s, lame-to-no defense, quick Ts. All of this has drained great athletic creativity/improvisation/passing/tough defense from the game. This was the heart of basketball and it's gone. why is a 140-135 game something to be applauded? A center taking 35-footers? one guy dribbling for 20 seconds, then heaving a prayer? The trend began with Iverson and Kobe -- the tedious 1-on-5 game -- and their example was encouraged to where the NBA today is just unwatchable.....Literally, i may watch 15 minutes of the regular season, usually by mistake channel surfing in a hotel. i'm a lifelong BB fan, played it since grade school. The athletes remain some of the best in the world, but I can't bear to witness what the game's become.

  • @rarelyaccurate6252
    @rarelyaccurate6252 3 дні тому +1

    Someone had the idea that each team should set their own 3 point lines, to give the game more character like baseball stadiums, I think that sounds awesome.

  • @elliotb1795
    @elliotb1795 3 дні тому +1

    It's funny that Basketball as a sport gets "boring" the more actual skill gets involved.
    Shooting the ball from distance is literally the skill... And that's bad.
    Being genetically gifted being 7' 2" and standing up the basket, reaching your arms up, not even jumping, to dunk the ball, it's skillless... But what gets the views.
    Basketball sucks as a sport. Not because people have the skill to hit buckets from 20+ feet away. It sucks because the people that watch it are boring.

  • @obarbeito
    @obarbeito 3 дні тому +2

    Three things to make the NBA a better product.
    1. Make divions matter. Right now it doesn't matter if you're 2nd in your division, if you hav3 a better record than a division winner, you would have home court advantage over them. It should be more important to win your division and create rivalries that way.
    2. Eliminate the 3 point shot until the 4th quarter. This league has forgotten how to play basketball. There's no fundamentals, all they do is shoot 3 point shots. Make them play basketball.
    3. Speaking of fundamentals, start whistling when the players committ traveling, doubl3 dribbl3, when they charge the ball. The NBA has become a league that rewards bad plays by their players.

  • @LembeckIsStaying
    @LembeckIsStaying 2 дні тому +1

    "Once you take a three, it's a CONTEST and no longer COMPETITION."
    - Shaq

  • @PorkFistedViking
    @PorkFistedViking 3 дні тому +2

    Lack of defense. Lack of hustle. Lack of physical play in the paint and too many 3s.

    • @The_king567
      @The_king567 18 годин тому

      Nobody likes watching defense

  • @WW3_Soon
    @WW3_Soon 13 годин тому +1

    Raise the height of the hoops by 12 inches.

  • @WW3_Soon
    @WW3_Soon 13 годин тому +1

    Easy to solve: reduce to 20 attempts maximum per game for each team.

  • @BBaby57
    @BBaby57 4 дні тому +2

    Add "and two" when a made two point shot, with the player being fouled, is awarded two free throws, creating a possible four point play. Thus, it is more of an incentive to feed the ball inside the 3-point line. A "hack-a-Shaq foul" is awarded 3 freethrows.

  • @johnwright7823
    @johnwright7823 3 дні тому +3

    Move the 3 line or shrink the rim. Also there’s too many teams making the playoffs.

  • @treysonmcgrady4750
    @treysonmcgrady4750 4 дні тому +1

    Wild to me as a baseball fan that the NBA is stuck in the stone ages in terms of improving their product. MLB implemented the pitch clock, which was controversial for like a month before everyone admitted they loved it.
    The NBA has several key issues, the three pointer I believe being the least of them.

  • @maverick214
    @maverick214 4 дні тому +7

    Too many older players, guaranteed contracts, load management, too many 3 pointers, too many NBA teams. I could go on and on.

    • @buckbenelli8
      @buckbenelli8 4 дні тому +2

      Too many rookies with only one year of college ball. And who cares about some idiot from G league. Most players need more than one year of competitive ball to prove themselves, worthy of our attention and money.

    • @HellaHellaHellaSauce
      @HellaHellaHellaSauce 4 дні тому

      @@buckbenelli8agree, NIL should deter ballers from entering NBA too soon

    • @camiamproducer
      @camiamproducer День тому

      It’s actually NOT enough older players, we need vets in the locker room again

  • @THEBLACKMANISGOD82
    @THEBLACKMANISGOD82 4 дні тому +17

    I said this years ago that Steph Curry ruined the league. I used to be diehard NBA fan but once all five positions started shooting 3s I stopped watching. NBA was fantastic when there were crossovers and dunks because the average human can't dunk. Literally anyone can practice shooting and get better at 3s thus watching people shoot isn't entertaining.

    • @JJ_5289
      @JJ_5289 4 дні тому +3

      It was not curry. Daryl morey, Mike dantoni and the nash era suns started the league on this trajectory of analytics dominating the game. Curry and the warriors just took what they did and expanded it

    • @J.A.Z-TheMortal
      @J.A.Z-TheMortal 4 дні тому

      ​@@JJ_5289Tripled it and ruined it. OP is absolutely right. The Warriors ruined the sport. Period

    • @colemilz
      @colemilz 4 дні тому

      @@J.A.Z-TheMortal they also had a team of different players around the shooters. Lots of players on those teams weren't great shooters (Iggy, Livingston, Bogut, Draymond, Etc).
      The Rockets for example made literally every player a 3 point shooter and made PJ Tucker a starting Center. The teams that tripled and ruined what the warriors were doing were teams who thought they could copy them.

    • @EllisCarver
      @EllisCarver 4 дні тому +2

      It wasn't the Warriors. The Warriors had terrific ball movement so they were still entertaining. It was the mid-2010s Rockets, who lacked the ball movement and took more threes than the Warriors.

    • @JJ_5289
      @JJ_5289 4 дні тому +2

      @J.A.Z-TheMortal im not saying the warriors arent part of it. I just believe the 3 point problem cant be blamed solely on them. Average amouny of 3 pointers across the league was going up every year since they got rid of hand checking. The rule changes are a big part of it too

  • @notanothershrubbery
    @notanothershrubbery 3 дні тому +1

    People don't mind threes when they go in. They don't like brickfests. Limit the number 3PA to 1 per possession. If you miss, and retain the ball, you can't shoot another three.

  • @thehorrordomain924
    @thehorrordomain924 4 дні тому +4

    It's 25 foul calls every game as well. Every little thing.
    Even a bunch of phantom calls. It's unbearable to watch and I use to watch every Wolves game growing up.

  • @ericg9636
    @ericg9636 4 дні тому +1

    They should make dunks worth 3 points too. Not layups though, just straight dunks, that’ll add some excitement

  • @jeffkan1
    @jeffkan1 3 дні тому +2

    Ok, hang on .... 5:00 ... "enforce some of the current rules to try to bring some of those numbers down ...". Sounds like a politician. The current rule is that a players gets this extra "gather step" when he finishes dribbling and gains control of the ball, and so NBA refs will tell you that a player taking a giant step backward like James Harden, Luka Doncic and some other players do, is well within the current rules. What Mannix is suggesting is that the rules need changed, not that you enforce current rules. I'd be all for removing that stupid "gather step" and make travelling the same as in high school and college.

    • @kevinhouse4376
      @kevinhouse4376 День тому +1

      And unfortunately, players often take an extra step after the so-called gather step and don't get called for it.

  • @anthonyreis5621
    @anthonyreis5621 3 дні тому +1

    It’s such an easy fix; prior to the start of the 2025 - 2026 NBA season, get rid of the three point line/arc.

  • @thealternativecontrarian9936
    @thealternativecontrarian9936 4 дні тому +1

    once they started allowing 3 steps, it was inevitable that they were start taking 4.

  • @acbower4468
    @acbower4468 3 дні тому +1

    No inside game is huge…but I also look at this way, I work in the oilfield, and seeing these players with the “load management” stuff, f**k off with that…there are days I don’t wanna work but I do what I have to do.

  • @rpm773
    @rpm773 3 дні тому

    There once was a league called the NBA,
    Where the fans seemed to drift far away.
    "Add a four-point line!
    Make the basket incline!"
    Said the suits, "That'll spice up the play!"

  • @StormlightPCs
    @StormlightPCs 4 дні тому +1

    I think the only way to dissuade teams from shooting as many 3 pointers is to incentivize other areas of the game. Foul on a made 2-point bucket, 2 free throws rather than 1? Foul on a made 2 point bucket, free throw made, retain possession?
    If you want to keep the status quo in other areas of the game, perhaps a shot clock rule on 3 pointers? 3 attempted before 6 seconds left on the clock results in a turnover regardless if the shot is made or missed. Or something along those lines. I'm sure there are other ways to improve the balance of the game. The biggest thing is that they have to try something, even if it's unpopular.
    NFL just did it with the kickoff changes. MLB has done it with the pitch clock and banning the shift. The NBA can and should act. Not every idea is going to be a winner, but I'm sure they can find a way to improve the viewing quality of games for spectators.

    • @sp123
      @sp123 3 дні тому

      I keep telling people that making midrange shots 2.5 points would be logically consistent and give guys who can't shoot threes more offensive power

  • @johnmiller3957
    @johnmiller3957 4 дні тому +1

    Maybe a 3 second rule beyond the 3 point line so guys are not sitting and waiting in the corner?

  • @bbertha37
    @bbertha37 2 дні тому

    I think they should experiment with players only being able to score 3-pointers during the final 2:00 of each quarter.

  • @xtrachrisb488
    @xtrachrisb488 18 годин тому

    If you move the three-point line back it's got to help somewhat, at least for a while

  • @gregorysimon6000
    @gregorysimon6000 3 дні тому

    Make every shot 2 points. Rewards proper strategy and 3 level scoring. More entertaining + just reduce the games.
    They won't do it as it's revolutionary, but it's needed.

  • @odamnitssam
    @odamnitssam 4 дні тому

    I heard one idea that I actually liked. Make dunks worth 3 points. Incentivize something in the paint so more ppl might attack. Post players might wanna dunk

  • @purplecrayon7281
    @purplecrayon7281 3 дні тому

    Max of 5 pointers allowed per qtr -- you scored 5 3 pointers in the qtr, every bucket is 2 pts. Unlimited 3-pointers in the 4th qtr.

  • @nostradumass6248
    @nostradumass6248 4 дні тому +1

    it’s crazy how everyone who covers the nba always acts like they hate the nba and basketball in general. why would people wanna watch the games when all you’re talking about is how the league is being ruined and regular season games don’t matter? they matter to the fans, but apparently they don’t matter to the media.

  • @bradleygalli7745
    @bradleygalli7745 2 дні тому

    Maybe experiment with only having one player for each team on the court any given time who is allowed to shoot threes. Like how a goalkeeper on soccer is the only player allowed to touch the ball woth his hands, you have one player on the court who is allowed to shoot a three pointer and for everyone else it still a two.

  • @fooljo333
    @fooljo333 3 дні тому

    Why would moving the 3pt line back not work? Just move it to where the average gets back to

  • @granttolbert4293
    @granttolbert4293 3 дні тому

    For me, sports is when a person/team is trying to stop some other person/team. With the “freedom of movement” bull there isn’t a defense trying to stop an offense

  • @jimmyshi03
    @jimmyshi03 3 дні тому

    I somehow doubt a bunch of contested midrange jumpers instead will help

    • @sp123
      @sp123 3 дні тому

      If it's a skilled person like Kyrie, KD, Anthony Edwards, or Devin Booker then it would help drastically. Great midrange scorers are the most entertaining players outside of athletic dunkers

  • @alkers372
    @alkers372 14 годин тому

    If 3 pointers are ruining the NBA, simply get rid of them. It is too easy a way to score points. Moving back the line means eliminating the corner 3 so is unworkable.

  • @catherinewilliams9680
    @catherinewilliams9680 3 дні тому

    It doesn't help that no one wants to watch a game when your favorite player is sitting on the bench because of load managment.

  • @tedlemoine5587
    @tedlemoine5587 3 дні тому

    Of course moving the line back would help. Make it a lower percentage shot

  • @snarkmark2806
    @snarkmark2806 4 дні тому +1

    Lower percentage, but higher value. Shooting 40% from 3 = shooting 60% inside the arc.

    • @buckbenelli8
      @buckbenelli8 4 дні тому +2

      But how many players hit 40%. It’s boring to watch 40 clankers a game.

    • @chrisuncleahmad666
      @chrisuncleahmad666 4 дні тому

      @@buckbenelli8 and it wasn’t boring seeing 40 clunkers inside the paint?
      I’m old enough to remember when people were complaining about a lack of 3 point shooting

    • @sp123
      @sp123 3 дні тому

      Make the midrange shot worth 2.5 points so we can incentivize fancy midrange shots again

  • @CaptanF0rever
    @CaptanF0rever 3 дні тому

    Late 80s-early 90s... the games averaged 100+. The best decade for defense, ironically, was the 2000-2009 decade. The 2010s averaged the same amount as the 1990s. It wasnt until the 2020s that teams basically abandoned defense and scoring jumped up by 10 ppg on average.

    • @The_king567
      @The_king567 18 годин тому

      Nobody likes watching defense

  • @marlowencna
    @marlowencna 3 дні тому

    Implement libero like system.
    There should be designated sniper per team.
    Sniper has no 3pt limit.
    Other players has limited attempt.
    Sniper wears different team color.
    Only one sniper on the court per team.

  • @camiamproducer
    @camiamproducer День тому

    Darryl Morey, Steph, Harden, Lillard etc from the previous decade set this mathematical precedent of tryna outscore their opponent rather than play efficient basketball. Please back hand checking, less techs, and influencing teams to put two bigs down low again

  • @rikiwroteasongthud
    @rikiwroteasongthud 3 дні тому

    Eliminate the corner 3. The 3 pt line is shorter in the corner so just run the line out of bounds to maintain the same distance for all shots.

  • @sugarshackstudios4889
    @sugarshackstudios4889 3 дні тому

    So TOTALLY agree

  • @7782estesm
    @7782estesm 3 дні тому

    Get rid of the corner three and change the rules so players can play more physical defense.

  • @HailMaryNoticiasdeNFL
    @HailMaryNoticiasdeNFL 3 дні тому

    the games look a lot like the all star games, no defense and its just a 3 point contest all games, no rivalries and too many fouls

  • @rickybobby8224
    @rickybobby8224 4 дні тому

    Teams scoring in the 80s is exactly whats needed

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen 3 дні тому

      And NBA was only 3rd most popular sport in USA 1980s! World Series baseball had two times bigger tv ratings than NBA Finals in 1980s!

  • @murdog5253
    @murdog5253 4 дні тому +2

    The players need to play defense! and the refs need to ALLOW the defense to play!!! it's incredibly boring to watch these guys out there staring at each other and watching the offense shoot 30ft 3's because any whif of contact results in a whistle! and then the second most boring part of basketball-- the freethrow in the middle of the game. game on the line? yes. interesting. otherwise...boring.

  • @jamesgaffney3873
    @jamesgaffney3873 2 дні тому +1

    Get rid of the three

  • @kevstervegas
    @kevstervegas 3 дні тому

    The guest said something interesting, that no one wants to see an 80s score game that’s competitive. Hiiii me Mr boomer, Mr defense, Mr strategy! I’d love to see it.

  • @wavyamar
    @wavyamar День тому

    If Adam Silver doesn't think 3pt isn't the issue he shouldn't be handling the NBA. Should remove the 3pt line

  • @JigsawBell
    @JigsawBell 2 дні тому

    There are too many 3’s taken, yes. Injuries to the top players is still the biggest issue.

  • @OEx25
    @OEx25 4 дні тому +1

    It’s got very little to do with how many 3s they take. It’s the decline of cable subscriptions and people streaming illegally. And don’t give me this NFL BS. The overwhelming majority of their games are on CBS and Fox, which you can get with a $10 antenna from Walmart

  • @andrewolivetreemixing
    @andrewolivetreemixing 3 дні тому

    Try something crazy, like each team can only attempt 5 threes per quarter, then you’d have to strategize who gets to shoot them on your team and when. After the 5 attempts, they’re all worth 2 for the rest of the quarter.

  • @BCSully83
    @BCSully83 17 годин тому

    Try this:
    "The inability of too many teams to play consistent perimeter defense is ruining the NBA"
    There, I fixed it for you. Look at every game the Celtics lost this year. The media narrative is "well, they live and die by the 3. If they're missing shots, they're vulnerable!"
    But when do they "miss shots"!?!?
    Only when the opponents has athletes that can run them off the line and stay crisp in rotation. The solution to the "too many 3s" problem isn't a rule change, and it isn't why the game looks like it does. Yes, it IS changing how the game is played, but the problem is solved by building teams with high-motor athletes that can defend 5 positions. If you've built your team to compete in 1987, with a sniper, a distributor, a post scorer, a "defensive guy" and rim protection, you deserve every loss that's coming to you.
    The NBA is changing, and teams are going to have to change with it.
    Defend the 3 at a high level, or lose, and watch the viewership keep bleeding.

  • @christopher7824
    @christopher7824 3 дні тому

    The general public senses that the players have contempt for them.

  • @jfkisgr8
    @jfkisgr8 3 дні тому

    For the threes…offside line. No threes beyond 28 feet. Only under final 2 mins can you do it. And I would make dunks 3 points.

  • @mainsourcery
    @mainsourcery 11 годин тому

    If people actually got together & firmly established that they’re not watching or financially investing, things would change. And by that time, people would be checked out, and the NBA would be in trouble.

  • @marklentz1095
    @marklentz1095 14 годин тому

    Combination of two things: repetitive 3 pt shooting offenses and regular season utterly meaningless.
    I don't think my latter point gets enough attention. The players themselves are in load mgmt mode all season long and then 20 of 30 teams have a shot at playoffs.
    Shrink the season and GREATLY reduce the playoffs field. The NBA suffers from ZERO urgency until the playoffs come around. That's bad.

  • @corbenwatts9375
    @corbenwatts9375 4 дні тому

    3's are not the only problem, but they're the biggest reason. Limit teams to 10 3's made per game.Keep shooting them after, but they're only worth 2

  • @baronvg
    @baronvg 3 дні тому

    If they’re willing to try all these different things, why not just do the most simplest thing possible: ALL field goals are worth 2 points.
    With no incentive to jack up 30 foot shots, post play and midrange game return.

    • @KillenEMsoftly
      @KillenEMsoftly 3 дні тому

      but how will trae young have a job

    • @sp123
      @sp123 3 дні тому

      Trae and Steph would lose their competitive advantage

  • @scarletspider1240
    @scarletspider1240 4 дні тому +5

    Once again, you all sit around and are mystified at how to solve the problem. It’s not that hard folks…allow even slightly more physical defense to be played…and call moving screens at the perimeter and you’d immediate cut down on how many 3s are attempted per game. That’s literally all you’d need to do to bring back some balance. These offensive players are WAY too free to roam around and get open shots due to moving screens almost every single play. It’s sickening to watch.

    • @vanillatornado8390
      @vanillatornado8390 18 годин тому +1

      Allowing this or that is irrelevant when the players refuse to play hard regardless. Klutch Sports, analytics, and the AAU have killed the NBA. This is what happens when you give too much power to the athletes. It would be almost impossible to walk it back at this point. I lost interest years ago when it started to feel like ~50% of the top players switched teams every year to try to chase a ring. I couldn't keep track of 5-man starting rosters anymore, and I had been a fan for ~30 years.

  • @granttolbert4293
    @granttolbert4293 3 дні тому

    For me, sports is when a person/team is trying to stop some other person/team. With the “freedom of movement” bull there isn’t a defense trying to stop an offebse

  • @darthmartinez
    @darthmartinez День тому

    Bring back hand checking and more physical defense and the 3 point shooting will go down.

  • @Rutisija
    @Rutisija 2 дні тому

    Fix the game by following the rules of basketball as it is designed to be played

  • @agentallstar7
    @agentallstar7 2 дні тому

    Yea who wants to go back to late 80s early 90s when the game was fun to watch 😂 These media clowns are something else

  • @danielpolk3866
    @danielpolk3866 4 дні тому

    Fundamentals are fun to watch, assists, the pass that sets up the pass that becomes the assist, steals, hustle, etc. I think three point shots are cool. The womens game is actually great to watch because they are not too big for the 19th century dimensions of the court, unlike most of the modern players. Make the court bigger! Raise the hoop to 10’6”!!!

  • @kimchicouple3424
    @kimchicouple3424 День тому

    Lack of fundamentals, traveling and carrying, “load management”, lack of defense, political messages, too much player control of the league, have tanked the modern NBA. It’s unwatchable.

  • @kevinhatten33
    @kevinhatten33 3 дні тому

    This might be a stupid idea, but I wonder what would happen if the NBA reversed it. Make the 3’s worth 2’s and 2’s worth 3’s. That would force more aggressive play and force players to have a mid range game and post game. I think basketball IQ would improve too.

  • @jkaise42
    @jkaise42 4 дні тому +1

    Don't forget NO ONE plays any defense it's garbage literally just garbage

  • @evanreakes
    @evanreakes 4 дні тому

    Why is there no explanation or discussion as to removing the line entirely!?!

  • @rogolloreacts4447
    @rogolloreacts4447 3 дні тому

    3 point shooting is up because it statistically makes more sense than a mid range jump shot. Players still take it to the basket consistently just fewer are taking those awkward catch and shoot mid range jumpers and more are taking catch and shoot threes. You can’t convince me that’s not a more entertaining product with the most talent that there has ever been. Here are better reasons why the ratings could be declining.
    1. Player Empowerment/Load Management (cable watching Americans are more likely to be annoyed at star players for doing this and having too much power/less loyalty)
    2. Politics (with the NBA not being afraid to be more political you are going to lose the other side of the coin with the older audience who are the majority of cable watchers)
    3. Young people (basketball is still incredibly popular with the youth but they consume the game differently through social media, streaming-often illegally, highlight culture where they don’t actually have to watch the whole game only “interesting parts” it’s happening with every sport but the other major sports have not alienated their older conservative audience as much as the NBA.

  • @curtisharvey5579
    @curtisharvey5579 4 дні тому

    I can't bring myself to sit down and watch people just shoot around from behind the arc, I can go to the park down the street and watch that. I want to watch an actual game. I would start by simply making the 3 point arc an actual arc, to where there are no more corner 3 pointers. Take away floor space to work the ball around for 3 point opportunities and take away WNBA distance 3s

  • @nicklewandowski3877
    @nicklewandowski3877 3 дні тому

    Let them only have 25 or 30 three point shots a game allowed collectively as a team. To where you can't just chuck 3s all game.

  • @snowman9642
    @snowman9642 4 дні тому

    Players are entitled. Too much power to the players. Whenever a player complains about work schedule being too long is a sign you’re overpaid. It’s equivalent to me making $300 an hour. I not only don’t want to work overtime. I will complain about a regular work schedule. Owners need to lock out the NBA for a couple years, take back the power.

  • @garybryant19
    @garybryant19 4 дні тому

    I never thought I would ever get to the place where I don’t care to watch NBA basketball. I’ve been a diehard fan of the game since the late 70’s early 80’s until about 2yrs ago. It’s a terrible product now. Guys over-dribbling, Referee’s don’t call the game by the rules, load management, non-efficient play, lack of fundamentals and overall skills, too many 3’s being taken by guys who can’t shoot. No consistent effort on both ends of the floor. Too much iso ball. The game is wack now. I don’t even bother to watch it. NBA all star game and the whole all star weekend is trash.