He sweat while his fingers bleed and head sways to a fro he shouts maniacly while his hair gives out a golden glint *Screen fades to black* There is a bald old man with sunglasses standing on a grassy plane facing the sunset. *screen fades back to a finished Sonichu*
"Fanart's not REAL art!" Whelp, guess we can just throw Da Vinci's The Last Supper in the bin then with all the other Renaissance paintings depicting biblical scenes and whatever.
Hahaha right! Not using a reference in front of you and drawing from imagination is so ughhh like your imagination is also your references because its relation to reality and past experiences in some way lol. I'm an art student I too feel guilty taking breaks but a girl has got to eat and binge watch her shows at some point lol
"Digital art isn't real The computer does everything!" Man what kind of Glados operating system do you have that does that? EDIT: yes I know art ai are a thing now
@@jblask2 exactly, i dont care the amount of effort put on something i only want It to look good, but these people would prefer guys in latex suits playing Godzilla if that meant they dont use cgi, not to mention that even then the whole "cgi is just lazy" is a complete lie as It requires the same if not more effort than other special effects As i allways say, just because the tool is better/stronger doesnt mean It made things easier, and even if It made things easier not using the better and easier tool would be stupid, when did we started to refuse to evolve?
@@legendarydragon2564 I've done both. My conclusion is that making things with CGI and emulating them on screen is definitely easier in concept than most other methods in the media. ...But that's only as a concept. When you actually want that CGI to look really stellar and believable, it becomes a lot trickier in a lot of ways, in some aspects even more so. There's a very distinct difference between, for example, CGI done in anime as a crapshoot (which can be seen often), or something that Studio Orange whips up (whom make their stuff look good by being really adamant with their preparations and fundamental research to net a very believable and pleasing to watch result). But really, drawing is honestly not so much about being great mechanically, so it goes back to the old saying that tools really don't make the artist. It's moreso your own psychology that really makes something stand out. When you believe that you can make something happen, you'll make it happen. I don't paint a lot of canvas, but I'm confident that with the right mindset that I can make something grand. It just takes a wee bit longer due to being out of my comfort zone.
Thats like saying " cooking using an oven isnt real cooking since it does all the work for you, you should go out and spend an hour trying to do a fire with sticks and stones"
"Dont use a reference!" "Reference is cheating!" Hirohiko Araki:*Laughs in using bunch of fashion magazines/Italian paintings as a reference for his characters*
The worst thing I've heard and was said to me is that an artist shouldn't ask money from what they do, all art should be free because everyone can just sit and draw. This is a phrase was burned into my head and put me a permanent sodium element in my bloodstream forever.
The first thing I learned in basic art and animation was looking at myself in the mirror or looking at myself walk, analyzing my movements and physique and replicating it. Reference is unexceptionably *THE* first step to any art beginner.
We love when people say “Art is useless!” when they walk around carrying branded stuff, watching various forms of entertainment, and looking at advertisements 🤪🤪
My little cousin said that and i gave her alittle reality check, about regretting that statement when she gets older.(art is everywhere.) Her father is an architect and Her older brother who is 10 is absolutely amazing at art. his and my skill level almost go toe to toe and im almost 18, im so proud of that little dude.
They are trying to say painting is useless... Some small minded people think that Art is literally only painting, soo... They are trying to say that the paintings, drawings or whatever are useless. Which is of course their choice xD. If you think is useless or paintings are useless, do you even have a soul? I don't think so. As for this type of people... there is no help or going back, once lost always lost. Think art is only paintings, man plz dig ur self a hole and hide there.
Yeah right. Heard that one too. Funny that a body never got buff when it never took time to regenerate. Even Terminator took rest every now and then to get buff.
A guy in my class literally went up to my desk once and asked "how long will you keep doing this? You don't have any hobbies" I was drawing and was like "Art is a hobby?" "No I meant a REAL hobby. You know like, sports" "So only sports are real hobbies?" "Yeah" Bish wha-
@@zamn7937 lmao yeah Idk I'm just pretty sure he genuinely believed what he said- Don't think he meant it as rude tho, other than that he's pretty chill :)
I think this is for beginner artist first you have to start with mastering your regular skill before trying to make other stuff look good or it'll turn out wonky
Worst art advice I can think of? Anything involving the words "never" or "always". Do what YOU want, and go for what YOU like, go your OWN way, whatever shape or form that takes. You have to follow your heart IMO and make your art true to yourself. Nobody can tell you, the artist, what is good or bad or right or wrong (since in art everything is 1000% subjective.
@@sugarice72 it's relevant IF that's the context. No context was ever given. I was stuck with this for many years, very much freaked out everytime I do, since there's no undo button on any traditional drawing media. To try both colouring within and going outside outlines is probably better for the sake of finding style and improving composition
@@sugarice72 That is probably what their trying too do. Like this old quote from Mark Twain that is fuckin amazing "First get your facts straight, then you can distort them at your leisure". Like I want all artist to follow and learn the fundamental cores and skills of art first and then once you become a master of them then have fun and fuck around like a mad man and create your own style and shit while having the top notch skills to back you up if some dumb asshole tries to belittle your way of art.
Yeah man... I don't get it either with that advice of not using reference. I am glad I never heard it. All the artist I knew told me you want to get better at drawing? USE REFERENCE.
How does one draw without reference? there is nothing that you can draw without reference you have something as a reference in the back of your mind, Ethan becker says it the best there is no drawing from imagination there is drawing from memory.
Steal artstyles from other artists => Use it as your reference => Make your own artstyle from it => Someone steals your artstyle An odd cycle, but not a bad one at all
Yeah! I see something I like, I add it on my drawing, often even just for a while before it gets replaced by a different way of drawing the thing. All together, this mismatch mixture becomes my own.
"You need to be born an artist" Sure, not everyone is born with a natural talent for art but like any skill it can be learned and improved, a blade can be dull but sharpened, I've see many in my time at art school who had no skill to even begin with pass my natural unpolished talent over time, being born with talent only means you were given a head start, but if you don't continue to improve and work on it anyone could eventually end up far better than you OwO
@Zyto Tempol I'll try to simplify what I said, just because a person wasn't born with a natural gift for art, it doesn't mean they can't still become a great artist and no, to be fair, even people with a natural gift for art still use references.
True this. I have no natural talent for drawing. When I started my animation degree I literally turned in a werewolf for a character design project that a fourth grader could draw better. After a year, I was at least at highschool level art, and in 2 I wasn't great but my skills were at least passable for a college student. Still probably couldn't make a job of drawing to this day but I can draw better than most folks. It was a bit demoralizing being around folks who'd been drawing since they could hold a pencil at first but put the effort in and you can't go wrong.
True... But it's just way too painful for me to see since I literally haven't ever been able to draw past the level of a 5 year old (I seriously have messed up drawing stick figures...) and I'm really insecure so I can't bring myself to try and draw... Ironically however I'm really good at tracing... But that doesn't help when I want to draw original artwork without altering existing art which I'm also can't do...
The digital art argument just makes me laugh, as someone who has been doing "traditional art" most of my life, having recently started to try some digital drawing, it's like learning all over again. I'm routinely amazed by what people are doing digitally. It does not automatically translate and it certainly isn't any easier using digital. It's just another medium and different tools.
totally agree! The jitter and stutter of my hand when using procreate on ipad. Man, i never felt so betrayed by my hand when I started! And what with the various amount of tools and colors that you have to relearn again. And don't forget with digital art, you also need to think in layers....
@@zNblack00 I’m learning on procreate too so I feel you there. The brushes are amazing and versatile but the true feel of pencil on paper is never replicable. I try to practice whenever I can and it’s starting to feel more natural but it’s a process, like any other medium.
"Digital art is not art" "You have to be born an artist" "Never take a break" Instead of being a list of worst advices, it looks closer to a list of dumbest things not even a human would say.
I can't believe anyone would say "Digital art is not art" that's just a complete insult tome who has had to learn for a few years how to do digital art and what programs are the best and what are the worst, etc.
@@Dorkiverse sadly people do. Mainly because some believe digital art is cheating and is not 'that hard' because of the technology it developed, still sad people still do this
It’s okay! You don’t only need practice, actually, you need to take key points and the important techniques in art. It takes so much time to become a master master artist :)
That's the difference, you don't need practice, you need good practice, and it doesn't mean only to keep drawing, this also means observing and analyzing everything you see and how it works, because if you have an understanding of something, you can draw it better
When someone says "Digital art isn't art" I just look away and be like "Ugh so me typing an essay isn't 'writing an essay', So is online class really not class? So is your online friend not really a friend cause its online?" Make it make sense. You saying that doesn't make you a better artist. You probably just draw stick man. If that's your way of thinking then you won't survive the real world. Is making a novel or a book not really writing? Because authors type online? The books were just printed not handwritten so it doesn't make it a book, since it was made online? Ya'll are dumb af. Oh and online games? Those aren't games the characters were made digitally so it isn't.
When you’re trying to give good art advice to people who want help and they say “oh you’re just talented.” like b i t c h, I put my blood sweat and tears into all my art trying to learn on my own. PLEASE don’t discredit the efforts of other artists
YES!! EXACTLY!! some people think they're complimenting us when they say we're 'talented' but it's actually the opposite!! WHY. CANT. THEY. UNDERSTAND. HOW. MUCH. WORK. WE. PUT. IN. IT'S NOT TALENT, IT'S SKILL! SKILLS THAT WE'VE BUILT UP THROUGH YEARS AND YEARS OF TRAINING!!
I’m a 14 year old artist, and I have enjoyed drawing since I was little. I followed a lot of wrong advice from people who didn’t know what they were telling me, and it took me two years to figure out that advice was wrong. I figured out that I wasn’t learning anything new from drawing the same things every day over and over. Yes, I did eventually get very good at drawing the thing I drew every day, which was dragons and dinosaurs, but I thought that by working on improving what I was already good at would help me improve what I didn’t know how to draw. These last couple of years though, I’ve been listening to what I think will help me improve, rather than what others say will help. I’ve been practicing anatomy for all kinds of creatures, real or fake, and I’ve been trying to focus on improving all of the little details. I want to draw things that can make me happy, even if nobody else likes it, so I want to improve what I think could be better. If you’re a beginner artist and you’re looking to improve, I’d recommend trying to practice with everything you possibly can. It is completely fine to use a reference to find ways to make your art more realistic if that’s what you’re going for. Art usually takes time, but if you put in effort and really try to improve, I believe that you will become a great artist, no matter what your style looks like, or how you draw! Be sure to take breaks too, you don’t want to get art block :C
Artemis "thought that by working in improving what I was already good at would help me improve what I didn't know how to draw" What? That's like saying "I thought improving my Spanish will somehow magically make me better at Japanese" That doesn't make any sense, and you took 2 years to figure that out? I swear no one is actually that dumb to tell you that, you come to that conclusion yourself, that's on you buddy.
@Zyto Tempol No, that's not what I meant. You can still draw without reference, but it is harder to do, and calling reference cheating is discrediting thousands of amazing artists out there. I just poorly wrote my argument, that's all.
@Zyto Tempol 1 - My memory is foggy, but I believe I did draw without reference once before. 2 - Whether or not the artist used reference does not change the art's quality. A lot of classical art has used it, after all.
@Zyto Tempol "If a person used reference that's from a reference if a person use without a reference it does change, it's different from a reference. It depends on what your drawing, it might change or it might not 🤷. " What?
"Anime isn't art" why do things have to be hyper realistic in order to be art? Anime is often simplified as heck and expressions tend to be over the top, but art isn't real life, why does it have to look like it? I may be an amateur in art, but what I've always loved about it is the freedom of expression... Anyways, subscribed and thanks for the great video, keep it up!!
Oh god how much I hate it when someone says anime or cartoon's aren't art. And I live with it. All because of my dad and he's slowly killing off my motivation for almost everything just like my mom. The only thing she doesn't butt into is my art, but everything else in life... Oh god plz no
Imo, people who claim anime, graphic design, cartoons or animation aren't art are the biggest problem. Too many teachers like this are crushing the aspirations of animators, graphic designers and comic artists. Jokes on them, these forms of art are way more commercially viable than any fine art.
@@rosebud6116 IKR! I draw anime. And I've been told it isen't real art, and neither is digital art. You have to draw realistic with a pencil and paper or paint.
It's true that it won't improve YOUR art skills but if you have a shit drawing tablet,the quality will be worse. For example it's much to draw with bigger screen (esp. with no screen tablets) thanwutg the tiny ones
Well... For me it was an apparent improvement when I got a more expensive pen display instead. I drew on my drawing tablet for 7 years and it never looked like what I could do traditionally. But as soon as I got the pen display there was no difference in skill anymore. :/
@Random Keiichi I'm saying that it's kind of a useless thing to say when you don't improve even when you switch but people still keep bugging you to "get a new drawing tablet". It can be good to switch if you have a crappy tablet, but the context I'm talking about is when it does no good.
It's like "Stop Drawing, You'll Become Broke" Now look at where i am. *I HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKING RANDOM STUFF LIKE I AM RANDOMLY LIKEABLE-* (i can't believe that my self-esteem got high from the past few weeks..)
As an artist who grew up not being able to afford different types of paint, paint brushes, pencils and canvas, learning how to do digital art made me so grateful for it. I'm still interested in painting traditionally but people need to understand how special it is to some artists to be able to have so many brushes, layers, colours, canvases, all for free.
Indeed, I love doing traditional art but I gotta save to just that, since it's my passion, but it can be very pricey (depending on how many tools you need, the media you use and brands)
Oh also, some effects that I think only digital can achieve (I might be wrong) like some lighting effects, for example. I'm glad you're happy with digital art and how many doors it opens
FINALLY!!! A person that actually understands that "Just practice" every day is sucky advice. That's what a lot of art youtubers like to do, flex there drawings and make other people feel worse. Keep practicing isn't advice towards improving if you don't know what to practice.
@Zyto Tempol 1. Learn how to type. 2.Yes I am, don't tell me what to do. 3. I know how to draw well already, i don't have to take this shit from you...
Another good vid. As a self taught artist I recommend the following 1. Study from reference images 2. study the old masters 3. Learn gesture drawings 4. Draw using your shoulder 5. Study from nude models 6. Use a 3d plane head to learn about light values 7. Learn values of colors and blacks and whites. 8. Build up your visual library 9. Learn foreshortening and perspective 10. Draw traditionally and digitally, both are methods to lay down lines and its you who have to draw those lines. 11. Learn to draw animals. 12. Draw and sketch nature and scenery. 13.study shapes and draw them from many angles to build up knowledge on shapes as this will help in foundations of body forms (everything in life has basic shapes if you break them down). It takes time so dont stress yourself. Always stay relaxed, learn and have fun. You wont be a master in a year, just like a muscle the brain needs exercise.
Self taught as in taught by the internet? Books? Or...? Did you re discover methods to breaking down art lol, jkjk nude models is a must though. Nice tip
@@yofu2969 I began drawing again back in 2001/2002. Back then I only had colored pencils, crayons and I even attempted to draw using mouse. Ive been drawing ever since. I purchased books here and there most of which I still have with me.
Foreshortening confuses the hell outta me. But, I did watch this one video about this “coil technique” that has made it easier to understand. Now I just need to practice and gain more advice.
@@frewtlewps1152 Your foreshortening will improve greatly with your overall mileage as an artist. It's part of being able to "see in 3D" on a 2D canvas. I'd suggest always using reference when you're trying to do foreshortening, & just draw what you see. Even advanced artists struggle with it w/o ref
"The computer does everything!" Has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Give a traditional artist one day to learn photoshop and we'll see what they can get done because last time I checked, tablets dont use themselves.
Although yes there are advantages with digital art such as a wider variety of tools and medium, those advantages won't matter if you can't draw for shite. Piss off people who think drawing is easy!
Man, that part about references hit home hard. My parents, who know nothing about art, kept telling me I should grow to become someone who can draw without references when I first started in art school. Obviously we always used references in classes, and now that I'm drawing my own manga and found my audience, I started using references for nearly every pose I draw, even the ones I'm confident I can do on my own. And that just made my most recent chapters that much better. When I give someone art advice, I always try to look at what that person is doing and suggest based on the gap between our skills and what the person is trying to achieve. A friend of mine does art for fun, but her art always come out as flat, so I gave her a few anime perspective shots to redraw. The shots came out terrible, but that encouraged her to start making more dynamic compositions. Art advice cannot be half-assed nor a one size fits all. You need to understand what the artist is struggling with in order to say something of value to them!
I have friends who say they can't draw and can only copy, I keep having to tell them that IS drawing! XD Drawing from your imagination is just a time saver that pros can do after they have spent time filling up the image banks. Drawing from reference will make a better picture in the end, though, even if you just take a couple of looks at something.
@@8bitexplorer459 Whenever your friends say that, just type "anime locations in real life" in any search engine (use DuckDuckGo, stop using Google) and show them the results. Professionals use references all the time, they can draw without looking up some because they spent so much time using references prior to that that it's become ingrained in their brains. That's why they make it look like they draw from imagination, but that's just an illusion.
@DangerX6 Angel9 1. It's not "There", it's "Their". 2. What are you white knighting for? My friend knows her art isn't the best but she wants to improve. Telling someone to use reference isn't terrible, it's the CORRECT WAY TO IMPROVE! Professionals that work for ages in the animation industry use references all the time, when you get into art school the first thing the teacher will give you are reference books, and many art schools have nude models so the students can learn body proportions from a live reference! Reference is the key in art! If you think it's terrible telling someone to use reference, then it's clear you're not an artist, and your opinion should be ignored!
Not mine but here's a quote that I really find inspiring. "Talent is something you're born, it's a default in everyone and everyone will start off with a few talents. But your skill for those talents are something you have to develop. Nobody starts off skilled in their talent."
I was about to send a list of my talents and it was long, but i thought they were useless. I just realized that speaking 3 languages, creativity, and playing games CAN be useful. So yes
Lol I've got an art block because of Jojo's great style and fantastic characters, there are so many of them that I just wanted to draw every character but my brain just exploded because of tons of information and inspiration xD
"Anime isn't real art, it's a horrible reference and shouldn't be something you should be drawing, try something more artistic" My art teacher told me this. I was 11.
I've seen comments like these so many times and every art youtuber I've watched has had this problem. Yet no art teacher so far have told me to not draw the way I do despite the obvious manga/anime influence in my art. Maybe I was lucky or maybe Swedish art teachers don't give a shit.
@@VoidStaresback nah you got lucky, though I live in the United States so teachers don't give a shit about kids, only a few do and they deserve to get paid more
Wow, like that will help their happy motivated art student and make them happier. That teacher needs to eff off, I mean..people have different art styles. There's a cartoon style, a realistic style, there is a wide variety. Take sleepykinq for example, I don't think he practiced much and did his own thing, and there were many changes along the way but all of his styles were amazing! Or Moriah Elizabeth, she didn't practice a lot either but her art is chefs kiss. That teacher should know better, FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS!
“I draw without reference” when i hear this all i can think of is: drawing without a reference never meant youre a better artist. When you go to art school you’ll use art references more times then using youre imagination
Omg when I was younger I took the “draw everyday” to heart. Like one day I broke down sobbing cause i hated my art so much and I felt I pressured to keep drawing the very think I hate I ended up taking a couple week break and it definitely improved a lot
@@chocoburgersenpai1627 hanlon's razor, don't crédit to malice what can be explained by ignorance What i mean by this is that most people that give that advice don't do it because "they want to destroy newbies" but probably because they geniunly believe it's going to help, maybe it worked for them, or maybe they don't really know how to explain it in more detail so they just give a quick and easy piece of advice
I'm actually incredibly impressed with some anime/manga artists. You can tell from their work that not only do they _know_ human anatomy perfectly, but they're able to choose out only the most salient aspects to incorporate in every pose. It's perhaps the highest expression of minimalism meeting functionality in art. Every line has a purpose. Of course, the flip side of this is that you need to know anatomy to be a great anime artist.
My art teacher once took away my drawing pad when she saw I was drawing anime and told me that it was disgusting and that I need to paint realistic paintings if I wanted to improve. The next day I drew Joseph Joestar on her whiteboard saying "That's curious. Help me understand."
I have never seen a realistic artsy Kyle on the internet anymore unless it’s about an anime character. What’s popular now and will get you money is furry and hentai. Times have changed old man.
Person doesn't like Cartoon: You don't need fundamentals to draw cartoons Me: What is the shape of a stickman's head? Person doesn't like Cartoon: A Circle... Wait Me: Circle is one of the fundamentals.
Fundamentals helped me with cartoon art and just depends (for me) on what the style of art I am making and I like cartoon art but I'm not talking stick men kind of cartoon just not realism either.
And even then "what's in your head" is just a compiled of memories of things you saw, then twerked into what you want to draw. To learn everything you need references, how the fuck are going to know 1+1=2 if you never saw it, understood it, made your own calcs to affirm it's true? People who think not using references makes you a superior artist are so fucking dumb
@@jace_d your just supposed to know. Who cares if you've never seen the image, just use your imagination. Like for an example breathing isnt something we reference lol some people are so weak minded. smh people these days dont even know what something looks like if they have never seen it before
@@jace_d exactly! The only difference is that if you use your memories, people with good visual memories have a huge advantage, but beside that, pretty much anything you draw is derived from things you’ve seen
I don’t know who started the “don’t use reference” advice but they literally tell you in art school to use references, even when going professional. I never understood that one...
Idk either but I would love to meet them. But anyways, I don't care if our school and professionals uses reference or they tell you to use reference..I'm drawing the art not them.
Sadly, those are what my father told me harshly. I can't even take uni courses. I took computer science instead. I had talent for it but i stopped drawing since then. But it seems i still had passion for it, so recently i started drawing again. It's been so long and its so hard to use drawing tablet. But I'm happy.
No one told me otherwise, of getting or not getting. But college did lead me astray to a path of getting nothing. And I really lack the knowledge of getting a job I desire properly, or a job at all. Life sucks. Good on you. Awesome!
@@octosponge1499 people tend to say stuff like that because drawing strictly anime is very limiting, which is why in art school anime is frowned upon. Is anime art? Yes. However, depending on the context, drawing anime is not always the best option, like if your trying to learn shading, anatomy, landscape, etc, i highly recommend not drawing in an anime style until you mastered basic skills in what i listed
I love how my friend said "Using marker is cheating" and "Digital art is cheating because they can undo and redo" When I explain to him all the fundamentals and ideology, he just go "Ok fine, but you won't change my ideology" I can't-
My uncle was a professional artist (until he passed away recently) who went to art school, worked on commission, and also did gallery shows. He also opened his own studio business about 10 yrs ago. His usual M.O., no matter what the final product would be, was to sketch, use pen and ink where he wanted, then make copies, so he could play with colors. Only then would he work on final piece. He also had no problem drawing things from memory or cartooning. He also sometimes worked his magic on his computer. All this is to say, he had his own style, and I almost always knew that something was his when I saw it. And he had many interests and ways of doing things. To say that some of what he did wasn't art, is to say that you have no idea what you are talking about.
The best advice anyone ever gave me as an artist was advice I heard within the last 2 months. This advice was HOW to use references. I was NEVER taught how to use references properly. Anytime I drew something, it was realism. I would copy the reference photo (singular) exactly line for line. This was thinking that stuck with me for the past 8 years. This KILLED my motivation to get better at art because I felt that all I was doing was being a budget photo copier, rather than making art that felt like it was my own. I felt like all the creativity was beaten out of me by my art teachers, and now I can barely draw once a month because I lack a strong passion for art due to this very problem I'm describing. This also instilled the belief in me that I needed to draw without references in order to develop my own art style... With all that being said, this is the advice I learned recently about how to use references. I was told that you can use references for poses, line quality, hairstyles, facial features (i.e. some people draw eyes differently than other people), clothing, backgrounds, etc. Not only this, but you can use real photo references mixed with other artists art as references so that you can adopt certain qualities you like from other artists artwork into your own style. An example of this would be using a real photo reference for the pose or composition as well as the background, then after laying down the sketch you use all the other reference images from various artists you enjoy to style that sketch in a way that symbolizes what you like. It's basically a collage of art when you think about it. The fact that I went 8 years of my life not knowing this EXTREMELY VALUABLE ADVICE as an artist really bothers me. If I had learned this back in highschool, I would have never decreased the amount of time i spent drawing, and my passion wouldn't have dwindled to what it is now. I hope anyone who reads this can be spared from making the same mistake I made in believing that the only thing you can do is either copy a reference exactly as you see it, or draw without one and pray you develop a unique art style of your own out of thin air. I wasted so much time, don't be like me.
You are far too hard on yourself and you probably have plenty more time than you think. "Art" is different for everybody, and not everyone is going to be into the same style of art, whether it's pictures, music, acting, or any other "art" form. I make art myself, and I know that not everyone is going to appreciate it, but I value the ones who do, and I use it as a way to honestly express myself. If I was always worried about what others would think about my drawings if I did put them out there, I'd never start.
Honestly as someone who's trying to get back into art I want to be able to do hyperrealisim because once you can draw what you see, know how all the peices fit together and can get shading down right you can draw anything but that's just me personally.
@@Toastcat890 hyper realism is totally fine as technical practice so you're able to learn proportions and what not, but it became unhealthy for me when it was ALL I had ever done. Imagine if all the art you had ever done had NO creative input what-so-ever. Due to the fact that all I had ever drawn was portrait art, I never learned how to BE CREATIVE. This is what I'm struggling with as a result of ONLY focusing on hyper realism. I lack creativity and a passion for art due to the way I learned to draw. Basically I'm saying it's totally fine for you to learn hyper realism, just don't make that your only focus or you could burn out on art like I did.
@@WilliamHaist People focus too much on "what's art" I've seen people saying folks who draw hyperrealisim only lack creativity or are aren't creative but what if that's what they like to these same people will crap on comic and anime/manga are while saying a dot or like on canvas is true creative are I just do art for fun so I don't care about creativity when I was into are I got to obsessed with things being creative and unique it sucked the fun right out of it for me so I don't bother with right now.
self-taught artist here: 1) Trace art to get a little muscle memory on how to draw specific shapes (like hair, eyes, hands, things you struggle with) 2) Keep drawing, but try 1 new thing on the new art, it might work or it might not (I improved on shading) 3) Don't get too hung up on how the initial sketch looks, color and a simple background can make the main art pop out and look better, and even some simple shading) 4) References are necessary to see what details you might miss if drawing a certain character (My Hero academia might have details in the clothes you miss, or how clothes might have shapes in specific spots)
@nailah tracing is actually great advice cuase it teaches a lot of important things.like how to draw a line,being aware of space,building muscles,ect. Also art theft most the time doesn't actually matter.the only poeple that are extremely afraid of every art their are immature and don't know when something is actually worth the effort. A kid just learning how to draw and showing their traced images IS NOT WORTH THE EFFORT TO ATTACK.it doesn't benefit the artist to attack kids that are tracing and all it does is discourage a new artist. You know what is worth the effort?when companies are profiting off someone else's work,when someone that should know better is using it to get fame or when someone is profiting off traced images.
@nailah you litarily trace letters to learn how to write. Tracing is practice esipceally if you're a beginner. Also let me put what I wrote in simpler terms since you are to lazy to read.you are immature if you care about traced art done by a child.you are also pathic if you attack childern for tracing.since they are just learning how to draw.
@nailah tracing is not stealing if you're literally trying to understand the anatomy/structure of something. There's a difference between learning structure and downright plagiarizing and not willing to learn.
Saying tracing is bad is short sighted. Tracing and passing it off as your own IS stealing, but tracing in itself is a useful learning tool. Let's say you trace the framework of an image for speed, then freehand the rest of the drawing to learn to shade and draw light values using your eyes. Sometimes I even trace my own work for speed. I quite like the grid method as a teaching tool as well, it teaches you to measure distances between parts of an image.
@nailah nuu, recently i realize tracing is good for people who first time touch pen tablet (unless you upload it without source, duh) Second, its good to breakdown anatomy, to analysis: (bone, muscle, gesture line, dynamic pose, duh duh, etc, duh) Edit: third, its can be first step to improve your line weighting
@@loreta6476 I could totally put myself in your shoes. I wonder what her reaction would be when some people (me included) used either: 1) any tools, or pencils, or pen and papers (scrap papers included) they can find to just draw when the rush comes or 2) that broken tools that kept being used as we too lazy or just simply forgot to buy again. I agree with you regarding skills first and not always the tools 😂. But, yes tools do play some certain roles. You could get good results using good and suitable tools. But you could also still got good results using bad tools. There're is a certain limitation (IMO) that could only be produced by bad tools (dry brush effect using an almost broken brush...etc). This limitation sometimes cannot always be recreated in some high-end tools...
I don't think the advice is bad but how's it worded is, and that it needs more in depth explaining. Some papers and tools will give you better results with the same level of skills, which I know by experience. But yes, it's not a magic trick and some artists get great results with literally one pencil/pen that's not even fancy.
I was once shamed for using colour pencils as a colouring tool since my friend hated using that and preferred highlighters and markers instead; she said that colour pencils make art look childish, damn.
I been a victim of "dont ever draw your art sucks and you never improve" This hurts me I stopped drawing for 5 years now I'm trying to get back since my friends see it as great as I am improving, most of them jus wants me to continue and the others wanted me to stop, "just cause they're reputable artist" and I was still new .
Just keep going, bro :) Once you think this drawing of yours many weeks later look weird and awkward, that's when you have already improved and it always worth the shot.
If anyone says that to you, tell it to their asses like, "bItCH IF yOU KNow So MUcH GIMmE a mAsTERPiECE bITcH-" Okay nvm- but srsly, this is your own art, your opinion, your masterpiece. No one has the rights to tell you that you won't be improve or your art sucks, cause can they even draw if they told you that?
The same thing happened to me but I'm trying to get back into it I try and draw sometimes but it just makes me kind of sad why? Because I feel like I'm worse now
"Don't use bases" Bases made me get better at art ngl, it helped me with practicing how to draw hair on a head and clothes as well and i used bases before I began to draw it myself. Using a base is helpful for beginners to practice hair styles and shading
“dont practice everyday” I searched google for tips to get better and a lot of them were “practice everyday” so I pushed myself to draw everyday. woops
Drawing on a daily basis can help some people improve motivation, however you can grow tired of it quickly depending on what you're trying to do. Most of these tips i do agree with, however everyone improves at their own pace and everyone has their own ways of improving, so if you enjoy drawing every day, go for it! Just remember that you're not forced to. Draw when you truly feel like it or feel inspired to, don't push yourself too hard. If you want to improve on specific areas, you can focus on those areas and practice by doing whatever exercise fits best for that area (for example, studying anatomy and drawing quick body sketches, tracing, and drawing sketches of poses, or 'gesture drawings' helped me a lot with getting better at anatomy). Basically, do what you feel comfortable with when you draw, but do not be afraid to try different things, and try not to overwork yourself too much if you're still a beginning artist. Some times we really do need to take a break to refresh our minds.
That's not what he meant, If you draw everyday, but don't try improving your art on any way, then you aren't getting anywhere. For example, not only drawing people, faces, eyes, do a variety, try shading, objects, animals. What he means is if you draw the same thing everyday you won't improve.
True I had the same mindset but one thing I learned when I first started on my art development I recommend actually taking a break because over time I got stressed because I didn’t feel like I was getting anywhere I felt like giving up, you should take a break when you get to that point because when you give your mind a rest you can think clearly and then you catch on quicker I improved so much after taking breaks
SAY THAT AGAIN. REPEAT THAT TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO KEEPS SAYING "wow i wish i could also draw like you..... " WHILE HAVING THE AUDACITY TO COMPARE THEIR STICKMAN DRAWINGS
Welp in my books real talent IS hardwork. A baby isnt born knowing how to paint like a master. I also get a bit vexed about how people portray talent as this thing you need to have in the beginning, it really isnt.
AshMash Eq FACTS, if I get asked for advice in real life, I freeze up and don’t end up giving any advice On the internet, I try to explain, realize it’s not going anywhere and just link videos that I think are helpful 💀
"Don't use references" that's the biggest lie that I've ever heard in my life. Even the old great masters use them, it is assumed that art is a representation of the real-life, So how could we represent it if we don't take it as a reference for our works? When they say that, it is as if they told a child that learning to read with a textbook is wrong because is cheating.
I believe the phrase is "art imitates life". I was encouraged to use reference pictures in art class. Two of the most wonderful people I'm honored to have called my art teachers.
Your opinion. Your the lie and your lying. Don't use reference. If not then why draw...unless you do it as a 'hobby'..not as art. Only most people used reference. "Masters"?? Lol! How can you show and draw without reference? Atleast try to use your head. (You wanted an answer, I gave you it.) Textbook? You don't read textbooks, you make a story and then later in the years.. you read a book; that should be obvious to know that 🤦.
Not Using reference really the worst of them. You really got me with what you say about using reference because is true. The most professional artist have looked tons of reference and because of that they draw more easy. But today the people make you feel like you are cheating or estealing when you look for a pose or a landscape or ideas .. And the anime is not real art...is a classic with digital art is no real art
@@demoniac4821 But maybe this is your art. I have seen artists sell really wrong stuff and they make money out of it. You know Egon Schiele? His drawings are amazing but somehow they look wrong. But yet amazing.
"Draw everyday" That's the same as saying "How do I fight?" "Punching" It should be more specific, like practice this part or practice that part. Not just "Do it everyday" you would have no idea on how to start
Which is not actual a bad advice... Practice makes perfect in everything. It's a generic advice, and I dont see it as bad. If I tell that to someone, it doesnt entitle them to give them my time to explain everything in great detail. As an example... I hate when ppl ask me... "Teach me 3D!"... And my answer is always "It is too much of a complex subject, with sub-subjects within, for me to simply tell you how to 3D. If you have any specific questions, I can try to help you though". Telling someone to practice... not bad advice. Sorry, not sorry.
@@VectorPlexus As someone who was told to just practice and draw every day when I was a beginner back in middle school, it wasn’t helpful advice at all. Even though I tried to draw every day, I kept getting stuck from trying to improve and became too slow at improving that it took me 3 years until I noticed some actual improvement from myself because nobody specified how I should practice to improve at a moderate pace, and drawing every day became a chore and it made me hate my own art for so long that I had a terrible burnout and afterwards I only made a drawing once every other month (and I disliked most of those drawings) for around 4 years up until now. It’s been 8 years since I’ve been drawing and I’m still not great at anatomy, dynamic poses, proportions, and clothing because of the unhelpful and very vague advice that I was given from so long ago that made me confused on how to improve at the beginning and ended up making me improve way too slow, despise most of my art pieces (I’m trying to have a better relationship with my drawings right now), and caused a very long burnout. I honestly wished someone was more specific and told me when I was a beginner how to practice more efficiently than just saying to draw every day (and hope for the best). Basically, the original commenter saying that telling someone to just practice is not good advice to say because it’s not specific. It makes beginner artists wonder, “But *how* do I practice efficiently?” and they’ll end up being stuck in a rut for months or maybe even years (like me in the past). It’s the same as the analogy they said. You can’t just tell someone to just punch when fighting; They should be informed that it’s not all about punching, but many various fighting techniques to really improve.
Teacher: What will you do after graduating? Me: Study art. Teacher: What a waste. Me silently having my soul crushed because when a teacher said stuff to me back then I took it waaay too seriously, not realizing they are people that can be wrong.
Maria Kilson, I feel so bad for you, I know how taking things seriously feels like. I mostly take bad things seriously because I don't even know why but it really can hurt.. But I learned to take back on it because of my girlfriend, and I'm sure you'll find someone who will encourage you more and more aswell! Michelle Lim, that's just horrible! I think parents should encourage their kids more than teachers do because they live with them on daily basis! But that's just toxic, taking your dreams taken away from you aswell.. If I could give a good advice to you too, it would be that don't let this stop you! I know one day you're going tonbe a great artist, no matter what kind
@@michellelim9700 no problem at all, I like to help and encourage people I can! And I know I don't have a say in this, but you really should get a job that you personally like.. I had known of so many people that aren't happy with their jobs and are living in constant stress and are falling deeper and deepee into depression and other things.. I just don't want others to end up like that
@@michellelim9700 did you have any interest in programming or computers at all? i ask this bc my parents also pushed me into getting a cs degree when i said i was interested in art. i've always enjoyed coding so i went with it. plus there were creative courses like game design, so it's not like i had to sacrifice art altogether. now years since graduating i'm kind of glad they did tbh. working in the it industry has been great esp during the pandemic and i can still draw every day
"there is no age to start at art" and I have to thank you for this video. had to come back here to thank. I'm 31 and starting this month my art journey, finally got the corage to change carreer and feel so happy. ty so much 🌌
I legit had a comment similar to this yesterday. Because I painted traditionally not digitally. I love digital work. But I wanted to learn more about colors and yada yada so I did a traditional piece. The were like "Traditional medium is more satisfying isnt it?" like no. All creation of art is satisfying. Challenges come with all different mediums. /rant lol
Yeah I got curious about digital art and tried it. They're hard and I have no idea what are these tools about and so many brushes, and effects. Most tutorial I search never explain why they do the thing, just tell you to follow exactly what they did so I still had no idea what the tools actually do. Well, I also can't draw traditional anyway.
"Digital art isn't real art" is the second most ignorant thing ever said...next to "Using references is cheating." What goes through people's heads to think this way?
Because in digital you have a lasso tool to move lines around after you've already placed them, layers you can edit completely independently, COMPLETE control over every POINT of colour, the ability to erase complety cleanly a layer at a time, an undo (and redo) button, extremely low material costs past the initial investment in a tablet (unless you're using subscription software), etc. Plus you can save, upload and share your art in perfect quality digitally with no special equipment or hassle or having to deal with physical exhibition or shipping. It boils down to "hey, no fair, digital art is too easy." Conversely it can be difficult to make digital look "natural." Good luck finding a brush that accurately emulates the line quality of a fineliner for example, let alone something crazy like a sumi-e brush (I've seen brushes that explicitly try, but aren't even close). Watercolour/stain tools tend to work from different textures that get applied at low opacity, which may look good at a glance, but results in a homogeneity that is simply not present with tradmed. Also drawing on glass can be tough purely in terms of manual dexterity since even textured tablets don't grip a pen like paper, and you have to choose between every slight hand tremor becoming very noticeable at the pixel level, and autosmoothing that destroys precision (tho the simple workaround for both is drawing at a very high resolution). I'm assuming the use of a display tablet too; if you're drawing with an old style of tablet or god forbid a mouse (I say as a MASTER of mouse drawing and the king of steady hands), you have to have excellent hand-eye coordination and put in way more effort for every line. Those are the challenges of digital, but if you're just salty about digital artists being more productive than you and getting more attention because they can easily share their art with many people in perfect quality, you'll probably ignore those downsides (or play up the first couple as aesthetic evidence that digital art is not art because it isn't FINE art or something), assuming you've even tried it yourself to know what drawing or painting digitally is like.
@@kennedyb6872 are you using a mouse/non display tablet? Because even with the other downsides I mentioned I can't imagine how else someone would think this. Traditional is more satisfying imo but digital is like drawing in easy mode. It's like comparing walking a tightrope with no assistance (traditional) to walking a slackline with safety lines and a balance bar and a net (digital). In both cases you make it to the other side and the audience cheers, but the digital artist, while walking a slackline (which tends to wobble, making balance harder), had a much easier time from all the safety and countermeasures at play.
"Anime is not real art" Me, who has a pretty anime-ish art style, and draws a lot of anime fanart: This taste... is the taste of a liar! Giorno Giovanna!
Anime is art. That said, I don't mean to disrespect but I always saw it as inferior art. Maybe that's the reason folk don't take it seriously, especially old people
@Vlad Vorland Productions I believe you can use the anime artstyle to produce great and inspirational work. If you are a really good artist you will eventually reach its full extent. But you won't produce a masterpiece with similar value to a Rembrandt or a William Turner painting
The only time I give the advice "Draw more" is for the people who expect to be good at drawing just because they have a pen and a paper. Like, I've had people who never draw and they ask something like "how do you get so good?"... and I'm like.. "one of the fundamentals to get better is that you actually DO the thing-"
"Stop drawing ocs that are a part of (insert fandom here)!" "Stick to one artstyle, it'll be less confusing." "Stop drawing (insert thing here)." "The only TRUE art is realism." "Animation isn't art!" Help (Edit: spelling)
I still can't grasp the fact that i've read artists say: "if you really love art you won't get tired/unmotivated by it.". Along those lines.. They might mean something different because surely they know how it feels right? It's just such a horrible thing to say and it makes me feel that Art isnt for me... That type of pressure from real working artists.
My dad said to my worst art advice " Stop art, it's not a really job, you will be poor all your life" Finally my mother, left him, and now she is master in enameling,and win his money like this, and me, I want to be illustrator artist and I don't give up! Thanks for video, you give me sooo much motivation!
I've attended a lecture from Kim Jung Gi, and it felt kinda palpable that he was tired of all the generic art questions he receives like "what kind of pen do you use?", "how long did it take you to get there?" etc., because it felt like people wanted to fast track their process rather than learn the fundamentals and work their way up to proficiency the way he did. When he mentioned drawing bodies, he gave the advice of "just touch it" and to feel the way things look because it helps you grasp concepts more, and I kinda really got that. He also leans to drawing things in boxes first (in his head of course), and working with that especially when using perspective. It was incredibly insightful and inspiring to see him draw live, and I feel like nowadays, people tend to wanna draw better fast because comparison is social media is just too rampant now. It might be difficult to ignore, but we should really pace ourselves to OUR ability rather than try to fast track to be the quickest to draw like Kim Jung Gi as soon as we hit 16.
"OMG~You're so talented~" I've been drawing since I was in grade school to escape the arguments and abuse in my home, and bullies from school. It went from a safe haven to my lifelong hobby. It's been a journey, It was never about natural talent... If your art is being put down, or feel discouraged to work hard cause "you'll never be good" or "aren't talented", it's a long and hard journey, and no one was a pro in the beginning. Please, don't give up! I believe in you! I hope I'll see your art around the internet with a million likes in the future!
Heres a dnd metaphore for the whole “U nEeD tO BE bOtN aN aRTIsT” thing. Your begining stats are determined by random chance. Some people are naturally stronger, smarter, more flexible. Some people learn better. Some people have higher intelligence. But every time you level up those stats increase. Leveling up is the parallel to growing your skill. If you have a base stat of 5 in art, and another person has a 20, if you keep working hard and leveling up, your stat will be just as high! It doesnt mean anyones better than you just because they got lucky and rolled a 20.
I was so weak as an artist. Once my sister gave me advice, and I broke down. I hid in my room and just stayed there. Drawing is a coping mechanism for me. It just calms me down. I didn't have my sketchbook, and I left my drawing tablet downstairs. I was just left in my room. My sisters friends where agreeing with her, CAUSE SHE WAS GIVING LEGIT ADVICE, and I was just being dramatic, telling her she wasn't being specific enough. They made me feel horrible. I drew her a picture of a complex character, and she told me that I didn't look alive enough. The character was in a chair reading a book, and she did it to help me improve. I knew I needed to practice, but... I didn't know where to start. I was just so weak. I eventually got better at art, cause I practice body part, I drew what I like, and when I felt like it. I never stopped. It goes to show, that you shouldn't 'give up art'. You shouldn't 'not use references'. If someone is doing something they love, don't make them feel bad. I almost fell into a deep depression, cause, I felt worthless. Drawing made me feel better, I'm happy I didn't stop. The art advice I was told was good art advice. I was just... ashamed of my art.
Once saw a video of him painting a poster and he even used like ancient statues, fashion magazine pics, etc. I don't think any less of him, the guy is just amazing!
I'll let you in on my secret, I actually learned how to draw from *gulp* tracing xD I had friends in elementary who drew and I traced but by doing so I learned basic things of how things are drawn. The shapes and whatnot,so one day I took a pic and using what I learned drew it myself. I still have that pic today,I no longer trace.
@@HeroOfThePeople Don't be ashamed to admit that (although it does still has a bad reputation through the art community) I (also) learned that by tracing back in elementary school, Now I rarely use tracing for some small stuff. but I did learn a lot of useful thanks to that.
Noob: Referencing is cheating ChadEthanBecker: PROS DON´T GUESS, PROS REFERENCE Great video as always man! really myth busting the hell out of those art misconceptions haha
that is true, even if we are claiming to draw from our minds, we are still referencing from things we have seen before, all art has a reference of some sort
@DangerX6 Angel9 yea no it’s not cause a lot a great artist start off from reference to get where they need to be animators,artists and etc *because it’s like copying from something you don’t own* why do you think people let other reference from there art so they can learn. The comment right there is not exactly needed like that but if you thinks it’s copying good for you then I am sure your art is just as great and I am not saying it out of sarcasm either but one day if you were to make a piece and you didn’t know what it looked like then pretty much your gonna have to reference it but I am sure what your comment meant was that *you don’t own the own make it into your way your own drawing* now with anatomy I can’t say much about that you can imagine sure but it doesn’t help all the time.
@DangerX6 Angel9 so why say it’s copying? You don’t believe people can be great with reference? What’s the point if your gonna say that it’s copying just because you think that it’s good or not I’m sorry but whether you like it or not there are gonna be better artist than you everyday because of referencing I’m sorry but you don’t own the art piece like that you don’t own the anatomy you.don’t.own.the.character at all that’s like stealing of what someone said you didn’t come up with that so basically your copying of what people are saying everyday. but still I’m glad you can do it without reference I am actually interested in seeing it for my self if what you say is really true and you don’t use referencing.
@DangerX6 Angel9 I feel like you don't understand why people reference things, it isn't to steal it, it's to work as a base to help them understand the fundamentals. Using a reference is extremely helpful, It helps teach people the anatomy of the style they're trying to portray. That is very important. Without a reference, many beginner artists (myself included) would not know how to draw certain things well, they wouldn't know how to train it so that someday, they won't need a reference anymore. They won't need a reference anymore because they finally understand how the body parts work. They can recall it from memory because they did it so many times that they're familiar with it now. It isn't cheating, it's helping someone understand better. The style, reference, or tutorial you learned from might not be yours, but those lines you made, those poses you did, those expressions your character does, they all belong to you. You drew them, not someone else. There is a point where it becomes a problem though, you never want to completely COPY another's style. Unless you are trying to replicate it, which I would never recommend unless it is for a certain purpose, It is very hard to replicate someone else's style, people! don't forget it. Also, even if you are as skilled as you say you are, I highly doubt you've never used a reference before, I'll call that bluff. Never? I doubt that, and even if it's true, and even if your art is the best art I have ever seen, you shouldn't insult other artists for using references. The End, Period. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
@DangerX6 Angel9 I... am having a hard time understanding what you're saying, sorry... English isn't your first language, I'm assuming. I am not trying to sound mean, but could you please explain again what you're trying to say? No, building off of someone else's teaching or examples isn't stealing, it is gaining experience. and just because you're using a reference doesn't mean you can't use your imagination, you're using it to help figure out how to draw things you struggle with, nobody learns this sort of stuff in a day, even you, I'm sure. Are you, by any chance, confusing referencing with tracing? because tracing IS bad and IS stealing someone's art, and you don't gain much experience from that. referencing is taking an example, and translating it onto your own canvas without blatantly copying it. Tracing is just stealing. No, you probably won't use references forever, once you gain the confidence to draw the thing you're referencing yourself, you wont need them anymore. It is extremely important.
Myself who's despite being a traditional artist, I have always admired the people who does digital drawings because if you think about it it isn't easy to draw on digital either, I once try it and say: "Damn...how did they draw it on tablets, computer, etc...so easy???" Then I realized they also have to struggle and practice everyday to be able to draw those beautifully breathtaking arts! Just because having technology helping you doesn't mean you could just sit there and let drawings do it it selves??? I always admired the people who does amazing art on even traditional or digital...because the skills are the most important thing of an artist, so yeah...anything can be art, whether on papers or devices, it depend solely on your skill, determination and love for art and drawing...and I'm proud to be in the artist community!
“Never shade with black” That’s basically like the exact opposite advice that my friend always said her high school art teacher taught them. He told them to basically ALWAYS shade dark-as dark as u can and to not be afraid to do it for every drawing. Both extremes to me sound like bad advice. At least when someone says to ALWAYS do something a certain way (without taking art style or medium into account).
It's interesting to hear that an art teacher gave that advice. I'll say this: beginners tend to be too line-dependent/ shade too dark. But intermediate artists tend to go too low-contrast & need to shade darker. So usually I suggest to shade darker in the shadows & lighter (less contrast) in the light
I believe that that techniques are mainly applied to traditional art but not digital art world. But what about "ink drawing, pen and ink techniques? They used black india ink......
Whygeun Jung Of course there are different styles and mediums, I brought that up in what I originally stated, but saying to ALWAYS do something seems a little extreme. And with digital u can easily erase or delete mistakes and shades u don’t like. Continuing to darken a color, say, using something traditional like pencils or markers won’t nearly be as easy to correct or erase if needed.
Josh Flowers ...I don’t think you’re understanding my comment?? (Or..maybe didn’t read past the top quoted sentence) The art teacher was teaching the importance of ALWAYS shading as dark as you can. He wasn’t a manga artist or comic book illustrator, just her high school traditional art teacher. I also stated he was saying to ALWAYS shade dark, really no matter the style or medium. Him saying to ALWAYS do it that way doesn’t seem like the best advice to me.
I was once in my part time assisting nurses on the ICU, it was the dark time when the relatives are not allowed to come in together, only one of them could and should have their disposable PPEs but, only one could enter... whenever a patient pass away, I always beg to the nurse to have like 3-5 minutes or something that could make me draw them as part of my gratitude to be one of those that helped them live even when everything seems grey for their family. I always give my drawings on their family and even if without gaining any money on all of those drawings, I helped them more to cope with not being able to see them. They always are grateful for what I did and I'll always be humbled to draw for them through referencing their family especially that time they couldn't ever visit them in-all together..
ngl. For 5 years straight, ive never seen a bad person in the drawing/painting community. I trully love being in this community and it really feels like im imrpoving and is frustated with everyone and not just myself. I love how we think our art sucks but compliments every art we see but ourselves. I really really love this community. DONT GIVE UP I LOVE YOU AND YOUR ART EVERYONE!!!1!1!!1!!!1!1!1 sorry for the cringe i had to type everything from my heart lmao
The most hillarous thing i've ever heard about art of someone who don't know anything about art is "don't make so many lines, that looks gross (refering about the sketch)"
Well there is some truth to line confidence, it makes a smoother image overall but there is absolutely nothing wrong with hatch sketching as I call it. That's what we have erasers for!
It's like the people who say that "Rap is not real music" or "wrestlers are not real athletes". They think that their opinion is truth and they want everyone else to agree with them, and the ones who don't are simply wrong. They can't handle hearing different points of views. A lot of my drawings are anime-inspired. It looks aesthetically pleasing and some of the animation is better than what's here in the US!
Same anime is what got me into art I tried to draw realisticly but I hated it and it was really boring. Then I started watching anime and I felt inspired again
"It isn't even that hard" "Just draw" "DRAW EVRY DAY" "practice" "You should draw like [ insert an amazing artist]" "Drawing cartoons won't get you anywhere"
"Don't use references" you focken wot m8. First thing you learn in art class is how to reference shapes. In every series that shows an art class they're referencing a statue or live person. Sketching from life is literally live reference. Great vid. Had no idea peeps with this mentality existed.
As a kid who started out my elementary teacher just says, "It needs more color" to my graphite drawing. Even though I was inspired by a comic artist who drew in black and white.
Bad advice: “Always keep your line art clean” I can understand most styles benefiting from clean line art, and having most of your portfolio pieces using clean line art is definitely important for getting industry work, but when you’re doing personal projects or personal work, sketchy (not messy) line art is a great way to speed up your work flow while giving your artwork a personal feel and personality.
I'm an environment designer & I've never drawn line art unless a client insisted on heavily lined forms for some reason. Kids seem to place too much importance on it today bc they want to draw comics & anime, which is fine. But there are many industry jobs that aren't line-dependent
Broke: drawing a bunch of lines everywhere and thinking it looks good because like looking at clouds your brain can pick out the figure composed of 2% of those lines Woke: using that as a sketch and inking the actual figure Bespoke: just erasing the mess on the sketch to leave the actual figure, like michelangelo carving it out of marble
What was the last thing you drank? tell me now and like this video now. do it now!!!
Coffee...lots of coffee...
Milk
And it was delicious.
Water, man's first liquid
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"never take a break" man, that sounds like what every mainstream shounen anime protag would say
He sweat while his fingers bleed and head sways to a fro he shouts maniacly while his hair gives out a golden glint
*Screen fades to black*
There is a bald old man with sunglasses standing on a grassy plane facing the sunset.
*screen fades back to a finished Sonichu*
@@youdontknowme3935 Holy shit man thank you for that. Did you by any chance make an anime at some point? Because that sounds spot on
@@dohickey7184 I was the main writer and art director for the groundhog day anime adaptation.
And a recipe for carpal tunnel syndrome.
@@youdontknowme3935 now i'm starting to think that this is an actual 90's or early 2000 's anime plot, i-
"Fanart's not REAL art!"
Whelp, guess we can just throw Da Vinci's The Last Supper in the bin then with all the other Renaissance paintings depicting biblical scenes and whatever.
Oh shit your right
@@SHARKBAIT_HOOHAHA_ i love your username xD
Old art is just fanart of the Bible and no one can change my mind.
@@Liam-mf4fl To go further: All art is just fanart of real life.
Humanity are just OCs of God
Imagine DaVinci trying to paint the Mona Lisa without a reference
Da Vinky?!?
Sammy O.of
@@lionyx8906 a
Who painted the Mona Lisa? Mona Lisa. Yeah, yeah.
DA VINKIII?
Hahaha right! Not using a reference in front of you and drawing from imagination is so ughhh like your imagination is also your references because its relation to reality and past experiences in some way lol. I'm an art student I too feel guilty taking breaks but a girl has got to eat and binge watch her shows at some point lol
"Digital art isn't real The computer does everything!" Man what kind of Glados operating system do you have that does that? EDIT: yes I know art ai are a thing now
Same with cgi in movies. The mere fact of using a computer as a tool to do something has a stygma, and i really hate it
@@legendarydragon2564 Yeah it literally allows movies to show anything no matter how crazy and wild.
@@jblask2 exactly, i dont care the amount of effort put on something i only want It to look good, but these people would prefer guys in latex suits playing Godzilla if that meant they dont use cgi, not to mention that even then the whole "cgi is just lazy" is a complete lie as It requires the same if not more effort than other special effects
As i allways say, just because the tool is better/stronger doesnt mean It made things easier, and even if It made things easier not using the better and easier tool would be stupid, when did we started to refuse to evolve?
@@legendarydragon2564 I've done both. My conclusion is that making things with CGI and emulating them on screen is definitely easier in concept than most other methods in the media.
...But that's only as a concept. When you actually want that CGI to look really stellar and believable, it becomes a lot trickier in a lot of ways, in some aspects even more so. There's a very distinct difference between, for example, CGI done in anime as a crapshoot (which can be seen often), or something that Studio Orange whips up (whom make their stuff look good by being really adamant with their preparations and fundamental research to net a very believable and pleasing to watch result).
But really, drawing is honestly not so much about being great mechanically, so it goes back to the old saying that tools really don't make the artist. It's moreso your own psychology that really makes something stand out. When you believe that you can make something happen, you'll make it happen. I don't paint a lot of canvas, but I'm confident that with the right mindset that I can make something grand. It just takes a wee bit longer due to being out of my comfort zone.
Thats like saying " cooking using an oven isnt real cooking since it does all the work for you, you should go out and spend an hour trying to do a fire with sticks and stones"
"anime isnt real art"
araki: *laughs in having his own exhibition in the louvre the same museum that has the mona lisa*
True
Also the "digital art isnt art" thing
Oh wait. That's kinda off topic
Araki’s art style is on a next level
We can't even consider his art style anime
"Dont use a reference!"
"Reference is cheating!"
Hirohiko Araki:*Laughs in using bunch of fashion magazines/Italian paintings as a reference for his characters*
N I C E
He even use famous songs as a reference for his characters
@@SonOfAFridge_ *STANDO*
also: add his spotify playlist for the arcs
Yes yes yes
"Just stop drawing and think about a different career" dude that's not a bad advice- it's not an advice at all that's just straight up demotivation
Depends on context
@@starandfox601 True
yeah, all artists were once at the skill level of stick figure and bad trees, but the one thing they didn't do is give up
@@starandfox601 Mm...yeah. Thats true.
@DangerX6 Angel9 ?
The worst thing I've heard and was said to me is that an artist shouldn't ask money from what they do, all art should be free because everyone can just sit and draw.
This is a phrase was burned into my head and put me a permanent sodium element in my bloodstream forever.
"everyone can just draw, see?" *pulls out poorly drawn stick figure sketch* "this one only took me 13 minutes"
If everyone can sit and draw, why are they always asking us to draw them? Apparently they can just draw themselves.🙄
Art really is that thing that people take for granted.
@@Sincerely.Nature agreed
I would've handed that person some paper and a pencil, looked straight in the eye and said "Then do it".
"Never use reference"
Realism artists: =/
i feel this
Yeah like bruh
Realism artists without a reference:
Alright so
We’re drawing a person?
*draws a pig*
:D... o-o
@@shoukonishimiya2535 LOL!
The first thing I learned in basic art and animation was looking at myself in the mirror or looking at myself walk, analyzing my movements and physique and replicating it. Reference is unexceptionably *THE* first step to any art beginner.
We love when people say “Art is useless!” when they walk around carrying branded stuff, watching various forms of entertainment, and looking at advertisements 🤪🤪
@@tanvijilte8118 Why does the emojis matter? They’re expressing how Dumb they look when saying it.
@@tanvijilte8118 'emojis bad!!!!' then why are they there for my use?
My little cousin said that and i gave her alittle reality check, about regretting that statement when she gets older.(art is everywhere.) Her father is an architect and Her older brother who is 10 is absolutely amazing at art. his and my skill level almost go toe to toe and im almost 18, im so proud of that little dude.
They are trying to say painting is useless... Some small minded people think that Art is literally only painting, soo... They are trying to say that the paintings, drawings or whatever are useless. Which is of course their choice xD. If you think is useless or paintings are useless, do you even have a soul? I don't think so. As for this type of people... there is no help or going back, once lost always lost. Think art is only paintings, man plz dig ur self a hole and hide there.
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Saying "just drawing everyday" is like saying "just go gym everyday" and you'll get buff. Gotta have a routine
this is premium content right here!!!!! this is what i signed up for!
Yeah right. Heard that one too. Funny that a body never got buff when it never took time to regenerate. Even Terminator took rest every now and then to get buff.
@@Leprutz You mean Arnold Schwarzenegger? The Terminator is a robot. It needs no rest.
@@Zaire82 lol
@@Zaire82 Oh right true... but he doesn't need to train either, cause he is a robot.
A guy in my class literally went up to my desk once and asked "how long will you keep doing this? You don't have any hobbies"
I was drawing and was like
"Art is a hobby?"
"No I meant a REAL hobby. You know like, sports"
"So only sports are real hobbies?"
"Yeah"
Bish wha-
That shit is annoying
@@rainykid9155 yeah I was FURIOUS lmao
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Wait til he learns what a hobby actually is
@@zamn7937 death?
@@zamn7937 lmao yeah
Idk I'm just pretty sure he genuinely believed what he said-
Don't think he meant it as rude tho, other than that he's pretty chill :)
"never colour outside the outlines."
lots of artistic/expressive artwork actually has colours outside it and they still look stunning.
I think this is for beginner artist first you have to start with mastering your regular skill before trying to make other stuff look good or it'll turn out wonky
Worst art advice I can think of? Anything involving the words "never" or "always".
Do what YOU want, and go for what YOU like, go your OWN way, whatever shape or form that takes. You have to follow your heart IMO and make your art true to yourself. Nobody can tell you, the artist, what is good or bad or right or wrong (since in art everything is 1000% subjective.
@@sugarice72 it's relevant IF that's the context. No context was ever given. I was stuck with this for many years, very much freaked out everytime I do, since there's no undo button on any traditional drawing media. To try both colouring within and going outside outlines is probably better for the sake of finding style and improving composition
@@sugarice72 That is probably what their trying too do. Like this old quote from Mark Twain that is fuckin amazing "First get your facts straight, then you can distort them at your leisure". Like I want all artist to follow and learn the fundamental cores and skills of art first and then once you become a master of them then have fun and fuck around like a mad man and create your own style and shit while having the top notch skills to back you up if some dumb asshole tries to belittle your way of art.
ikr
Just imagine... If someone told highschool Bob Ross that art isnt gonna get him anywhere and he listened to them
NOOO NOT BOB ROSSS!!! Lol
Thank God I don't live in that timeline.
*Don't make me cry you heartless floof!*
(You are not heartless,you have a heart.. I am sorry, why am i like this?)
Most likely ww3
That is a very cursed timeline and I despise the idea of it
Don't draw on paper or canvases, a true artist paints on a stone wall inside a cave with coal!
All these fake artist nowadays... coal and caves are the real way to go! Smh 🤦🏻♀️
Oo aa
Dana B o no, no, we all know the grandmasters use fingers and mud 😎
You Losers, I’ve been using the ashes of the dead to paint for the past year now
Emerald Sky dude, stop flexing on us 😥
“Fan art isn’t real art!”
Baroque, Renaissance and basically every old piece of archeology would beg the differ
Uh? Medieval and ancient art as well
The ancient greeks: Excuse me?
Don’t forget every dramatic depiction of Dante’s Inferno.
Artist who gives bad advice: " *Dont use reference* "
Then how the hell can leonardo da vinci paint *monalisa*
Yeah man... I don't get it either with that advice of not using reference. I am glad I never heard it. All the artist I knew told me you want to get better at drawing? USE REFERENCE.
You have to be like Leonardo da Vinci OR DON'T DRAW AT ALL! :'D
Obviously he did it from his imagination 🙄 😂
i know its a joke but real life is a reference too 8)
Exactly!!!
Noob: "using references is bad!"
Ego: "allow me to introduce myself"
LMAO
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How does one draw without reference? there is nothing that you can draw without reference you have something as a reference in the back of your mind, Ethan becker says it the best there is no drawing from imagination there is drawing from memory.
they are basically doing "gatekeeping", you know lul
best comment hahahaa
Steal artstyles from other artists => Use it as your reference => Make your own artstyle from it => Someone steals your artstyle
An odd cycle, but not a bad one at all
That’s exactly how my artstyle came to be. I just stole different techniques from different people and after a while it became my own
Yeah! I see something I like, I add it on my drawing, often even just for a while before it gets replaced by a different way of drawing the thing. All together, this mismatch mixture becomes my own.
You know what they say, stealing from one is plagiarism, stealing from many is research.
Imitation is the most genuine form of flattery
@@tafua_a Agreed! Art is a combination of many techniques, so it's good to have many references~
"You need to be born an artist"
Sure, not everyone is born with a natural talent for art but like any skill it can be learned and improved, a blade can be dull but sharpened, I've see many in my time at art school who had no skill to even begin with pass my natural unpolished talent over time, being born with talent only means you were given a head start, but if you don't continue to improve and work on it anyone could eventually end up far better than you OwO
@Zyto Tempol I'll try to simplify what I said, just because a person wasn't born with a natural gift for art, it doesn't mean they can't still become a great artist and no, to be fair, even people with a natural gift for art still use references.
@Zyto Tempol know what, I just can't be bothered, carry on and do what you want.
True this. I have no natural talent for drawing. When I started my animation degree I literally turned in a werewolf for a character design project that a fourth grader could draw better. After a year, I was at least at highschool level art, and in 2 I wasn't great but my skills were at least passable for a college student. Still probably couldn't make a job of drawing to this day but I can draw better than most folks. It was a bit demoralizing being around folks who'd been drawing since they could hold a pencil at first but put the effort in and you can't go wrong.
True...
But it's just way too painful for me to see since I literally haven't ever been able to draw past the level of a 5 year old (I seriously have messed up drawing stick figures...) and I'm really insecure so I can't bring myself to try and draw...
Ironically however I'm really good at tracing...
But that doesn't help when I want to draw original artwork without altering existing art which I'm also can't do...
I was basically born with talent,But my drawings were bad like a unicorn with weird legs-
"You only need a computer, internet and the will to actually learn"
This made me sub.
Not even a computer just good drawing tablet and internet.
@Syrus no i meant is the tablet that dont needs a computer.
@@chocoburgersenpai1627 those are basically computers, some of them even have Windows 10
You can even use a phone honestly. I know someone who draws with their finger on their phone and they are an actual god
@@3leafcloverr this is actually why I'm getting into art. The ease of use and accessibility makes it less daunting and removes clutter lol
The digital art argument just makes me laugh, as someone who has been doing "traditional art" most of my life, having recently started to try some digital drawing, it's like learning all over again. I'm routinely amazed by what people are doing digitally. It does not automatically translate and it certainly isn't any easier using digital. It's just another medium and different tools.
Digital art is HARD!!!
totally agree! The jitter and stutter of my hand when using procreate on ipad. Man, i never felt so betrayed by my hand when I started!
And what with the various amount of tools and colors that you have to relearn again. And don't forget with digital art, you also need to think in layers....
I feel this deeply, it really it's a relearning process, I felt so out of my depth that I only do traditional art now, but I might give it another try
@@zNblack00 I’m learning on procreate too so I feel you there. The brushes are amazing and versatile but the true feel of pencil on paper is never replicable. I try to practice whenever I can and it’s starting to feel more natural but it’s a process, like any other medium.
For real!
"If you become an artist you'll be broke"
NSFW furry artists: Allow us to introduce ourselves
*Hentai artists:* "Keep that door open, were coming through"
Nsfw Animators: *Please hold my digital pen..I need to talk to this man.*
Sfw artists:hey gu-
*slams door*
Fetish furry artist: "room for one more?"
Anime Fan fic nsfw animators: wait holD on I'm coming
“Don’t use erasers”
Me, someone who always uses a wire skeleton while drawing and has to erase it: I-
oh fuck, that is a classic lmao, try using soft pencils so you can erase it easy
Stick figure gang
"Don't use reference!"
The client who commissioned a reference sheet: "Bruh"
LMAOOO
Bruh moment
People that say they don't use references for their art and say they use their memory are technically using ref themselves lol
@@fluffuchan0629 yep, referencing straight from the brain. or imagination.
"Digital art is not art"
"You have to be born an artist"
"Never take a break"
Instead of being a list of worst advices, it looks closer to a list of dumbest things not even a human would say.
the dumbest human would say... aM i A cHiCkEn!?1/1/?1?1/1!?/
ehh people have told me digital art isn’t art
I can't believe anyone would say "Digital art is not art" that's just a complete insult tome who has had to learn for a few years how to do digital art and what programs are the best and what are the worst, etc.
Actually, this is very true. Lots of people actually say this, you haven't been on that part of the interent
@@Dorkiverse sadly people do. Mainly because some believe digital art is cheating and is not 'that hard' because of the technology it developed, still sad people still do this
"never used references"
BUT THE WORLD IS A REFERENCE ! *panic*
@Pxriwinkle.P you beat me to it. *noice.*
*rodo rora da*
😂😂😂😂😂
7 PAGE MUDA MUDA..
@@Jailson_rah dude I've seen u somewhere before but I cant remember where
Random person: "Draw everyday and you'll improve"
Me: "I've done that for years, how am I not improving"
Random person: "..."
Salt Crystal
Me, who has drawn everyday and actually improved: bro I think you're broken
Me, who understands people can improve at different paces: ok
Im my case my speed is improving, i take less time to draw the same, but the actual quality is the same
It’s okay! You don’t only need practice, actually, you need to take key points and the important techniques in art. It takes so much time to become a master master artist :)
That's the difference, you don't need practice, you need good practice, and it doesn't mean only to keep drawing, this also means observing and analyzing everything you see and how it works, because if you have an understanding of something, you can draw it better
When someone says "Digital art isn't art" I just look away and be like "Ugh so me typing an essay isn't 'writing an essay', So is online class really not class? So is your online friend not really a friend cause its online?" Make it make sense. You saying that doesn't make you a better artist. You probably just draw stick man. If that's your way of thinking then you won't survive the real world. Is making a novel or a book not really writing? Because authors type online? The books were just printed not handwritten so it doesn't make it a book, since it was made online? Ya'll are dumb af. Oh and online games? Those aren't games the characters were made digitally so it isn't.
Thx
People who say that Digital Art is not real art is just Chris Chan.
“Digital art isn’t real art!!”
Me, who prefers to do digital rather than traditional: Um, I’m sorry, what-
@@umhello9962 ye
Well, digital art is easier then traditional art. But it definately IS art.
When you’re trying to give good art advice to people who want help and they say “oh you’re just talented.” like b i t c h, I put my blood sweat and tears into all my art trying to learn on my own. PLEASE don’t discredit the efforts of other artists
YES!! EXACTLY!! some people think they're complimenting us when they say we're 'talented' but it's actually the opposite!! WHY. CANT. THEY. UNDERSTAND. HOW. MUCH. WORK. WE. PUT. IN. IT'S NOT TALENT, IT'S SKILL! SKILLS THAT WE'VE BUILT UP THROUGH YEARS AND YEARS OF TRAINING!!
@cat grips lol how you about you spell "compliment" right
THIS aaaaaa i wanna screm
I’m a 14 year old artist, and I have enjoyed drawing since I was little. I followed a lot of wrong advice from people who didn’t know what they were telling me, and it took me two years to figure out that advice was wrong. I figured out that I wasn’t learning anything new from drawing the same things every day over and over. Yes, I did eventually get very good at drawing the thing I drew every day, which was dragons and dinosaurs, but I thought that by working on improving what I was already good at would help me improve what I didn’t know how to draw. These last couple of years though, I’ve been listening to what I think will help me improve, rather than what others say will help. I’ve been practicing anatomy for all kinds of creatures, real or fake, and I’ve been trying to focus on improving all of the little details. I want to draw things that can make me happy, even if nobody else likes it, so I want to improve what I think could be better.
If you’re a beginner artist and you’re looking to improve, I’d recommend trying to practice with everything you possibly can. It is completely fine to use a reference to find ways to make your art more realistic if that’s what you’re going for. Art usually takes time, but if you put in effort and really try to improve, I believe that you will become a great artist, no matter what your style looks like, or how you draw! Be sure to take breaks too, you don’t want to get art block :C
@Yadelis Delgado Burgas Wish granted (I liked)
I love your speech and all, but you talk as if you have years of experience when your only 14 XD
@@caroll5706 well, you can have years of experience even if your 14 years old, its not like they’re 5
@@cerisexo I'm not saying they can't I'm just saying the way the talk is as if they are older
Artemis
"thought that by working in improving what I was already good at would help me improve what I didn't know how to draw" What? That's like saying "I thought improving my Spanish will somehow magically make me better at Japanese" That doesn't make any sense, and you took 2 years to figure that out? I swear no one is actually that dumb to tell you that, you come to that conclusion yourself, that's on you buddy.
"Using reference is cheating! Draw from your imagination!"
Artists with aphantasia: Am I a joke to you?
@Zyto Tempol Saying that Reference is cheating is saying like "Cook but don't follow the recipes"
@Zyto Tempol But every artist has to use it? Even Da Vinci had to use references when drawing the Monalisa.
@Zyto Tempol No, that's not what I meant. You can still draw without reference, but it is harder to do, and calling reference cheating is discrediting thousands of amazing artists out there.
I just poorly wrote my argument, that's all.
@Zyto Tempol 1 - My memory is foggy, but I believe I did draw without reference once before.
2 - Whether or not the artist used reference does not change the art's quality. A lot of classical art has used it, after all.
@Zyto Tempol "If a person used reference that's from a reference if a person use without a reference it does change, it's different from a reference. It depends on what your drawing, it might change or it might not 🤷.
"
What?
"Anime isn't art" why do things have to be hyper realistic in order to be art? Anime is often simplified as heck and expressions tend to be over the top, but art isn't real life, why does it have to look like it? I may be an amateur in art, but what I've always loved about it is the freedom of expression... Anyways, subscribed and thanks for the great video, keep it up!!
Oh god how much I hate it when someone says anime or cartoon's aren't art. And I live with it. All because of my dad and he's slowly killing off my motivation for almost everything just like my mom. The only thing she doesn't butt into is my art, but everything else in life... Oh god plz no
Imo, people who claim anime, graphic design, cartoons or animation aren't art are the biggest problem. Too many teachers like this are crushing the aspirations of animators, graphic designers and comic artists. Jokes on them, these forms of art are way more commercially viable than any fine art.
@@rosebud6116 IKR! I draw anime. And I've been told it isen't real art, and neither is digital art. You have to draw realistic with a pencil and paper or paint.
ppl who say that anime or cartoon ain't art. Lacks a lot of creativity xd
Remember the drawing with the gut who screams?..yeah me too In their logic it isn't art
Saying "Just get a better drawing tablet" is like saying to "Just get a better piece of paper".
The thing is people genuinely think this due to commercials and advertisements
It's true that it won't improve YOUR art skills but if you have a shit drawing tablet,the quality will be worse. For example it's much to draw with bigger screen (esp. with no screen tablets) thanwutg the tiny ones
Well... For me it was an apparent improvement when I got a more expensive pen display instead. I drew on my drawing tablet for 7 years and it never looked like what I could do traditionally. But as soon as I got the pen display there was no difference in skill anymore. :/
@Random Keiichi I'm saying that it's kind of a useless thing to say when you don't improve even when you switch but people still keep bugging you to "get a new drawing tablet". It can be good to switch if you have a crappy tablet, but the context I'm talking about is when it does no good.
It's like "Stop Drawing, You'll Become Broke"
Now look at where i am. *I HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKING RANDOM STUFF LIKE I AM RANDOMLY LIKEABLE-*
(i can't believe that my self-esteem got high from the past few weeks..)
As an artist who grew up not being able to afford different types of paint, paint brushes, pencils and canvas, learning how to do digital art made me so grateful for it. I'm still interested in painting traditionally but people need to understand how special it is to some artists to be able to have so many brushes, layers, colours, canvases, all for free.
Indeed, I love doing traditional art but I gotta save to just that, since it's my passion, but it can be very pricey (depending on how many tools you need, the media you use and brands)
Oh also, some effects that I think only digital can achieve (I might be wrong) like some lighting effects, for example.
I'm glad you're happy with digital art and how many doors it opens
I wanna try traditional art too but digital art just calls me. Its like it knows i'll be good with it in the future.
@@xavien_818 You will! I'm sure of it, I wanna try again, when my laptop deigns to work x,D
@@LunethDomine tysm
FINALLY!!! A person that actually understands that "Just practice" every day is sucky advice. That's what a lot of art youtubers like to do, flex there drawings and make other people feel worse. Keep practicing isn't advice towards improving if you don't know what to practice.
@Zyto Tempol 🖕
@Zyto Tempol 1. Learn how to type. 2.Yes I am, don't tell me what to do. 3. I know how to draw well already, i don't have to take this shit from you...
Another good vid. As a self taught artist I recommend the following
1. Study from reference images
2. study the old masters
3. Learn gesture drawings
4. Draw using your shoulder
5. Study from nude models
6. Use a 3d plane head to learn about light values
7. Learn values of colors and blacks and whites.
8. Build up your visual library
9. Learn foreshortening and perspective
10. Draw traditionally and digitally, both are methods to lay down lines and its you who have to draw those lines.
11. Learn to draw animals.
12. Draw and sketch nature and scenery.
13.study shapes and draw them from many angles to build up knowledge on shapes as this will help in foundations of body forms (everything in life has basic shapes if you break them down).
It takes time so dont stress yourself. Always stay relaxed, learn and have fun. You wont be a master in a year, just like a muscle the brain needs exercise.
Self taught as in taught by the internet? Books? Or...? Did you re discover methods to breaking down art lol, jkjk nude models is a must though. Nice tip
@@yofu2969 I began drawing again back in 2001/2002. Back then I only had colored pencils, crayons and I even attempted to draw using mouse. Ive been drawing ever since. I purchased books here and there most of which I still have with me.
Great tip, I'm a beginner, thanks for sharing
Foreshortening confuses the hell outta me. But, I did watch this one video about this “coil technique” that has made it easier to understand. Now I just need to practice and gain more advice.
@@frewtlewps1152 Your foreshortening will improve greatly with your overall mileage as an artist. It's part of being able to "see in 3D" on a 2D canvas. I'd suggest always using reference when you're trying to do foreshortening, & just draw what you see. Even advanced artists struggle with it w/o ref
Digital art: “The computer does everything” Physical art: “The pencil and paper do everything”
"The computer does everything!" Has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Give a traditional artist one day to learn photoshop and we'll see what they can get done because last time I checked, tablets dont use themselves.
Although yes there are advantages with digital art such as a wider variety of tools and medium, those advantages won't matter if you can't draw for shite. Piss off people who think drawing is easy!
Bruh my cousin is way better at art than me and I get so confused on how to do digital art. I'm a 13 year old boomer with that stuff.
That was the best comeback to that argument, prob gonna steal it
Shooting crimes: the gun did it, not me
Man, that part about references hit home hard. My parents, who know nothing about art, kept telling me I should grow to become someone who can draw without references when I first started in art school. Obviously we always used references in classes, and now that I'm drawing my own manga and found my audience, I started using references for nearly every pose I draw, even the ones I'm confident I can do on my own. And that just made my most recent chapters that much better.
When I give someone art advice, I always try to look at what that person is doing and suggest based on the gap between our skills and what the person is trying to achieve. A friend of mine does art for fun, but her art always come out as flat, so I gave her a few anime perspective shots to redraw. The shots came out terrible, but that encouraged her to start making more dynamic compositions.
Art advice cannot be half-assed nor a one size fits all. You need to understand what the artist is struggling with in order to say something of value to them!
That's Awesome
I have friends who say they can't draw and can only copy, I keep having to tell them that IS drawing! XD Drawing from your imagination is just a time saver that pros can do after they have spent time filling up the image banks. Drawing from reference will make a better picture in the end, though, even if you just take a couple of looks at something.
thats so cool
@@8bitexplorer459 Whenever your friends say that, just type "anime locations in real life" in any search engine (use DuckDuckGo, stop using Google) and show them the results.
Professionals use references all the time, they can draw without looking up some because they spent so much time using references prior to that that it's become ingrained in their brains. That's why they make it look like they draw from imagination, but that's just an illusion.
@DangerX6 Angel9 1. It's not "There", it's "Their".
2. What are you white knighting for? My friend knows her art isn't the best but she wants to improve. Telling someone to use reference isn't terrible, it's the CORRECT WAY TO IMPROVE! Professionals that work for ages in the animation industry use references all the time, when you get into art school the first thing the teacher will give you are reference books, and many art schools have nude models so the students can learn body proportions from a live reference!
Reference is the key in art! If you think it's terrible telling someone to use reference, then it's clear you're not an artist, and your opinion should be ignored!
"don't use black shading"
Marvel: ;-;
😶they make it look hecka good tho when I use it, it looks bad so I use purple,blue,or pink
I mean, black looks kinda good with cell shading
black shading looks good when used properly some people just get a black higher tool and call it shading
@@mystery5538 you really called 12 year old me out lol
@@mystery5538 You can make black soft shading look good, there's just a certain way of doing it.
"Just draw traditionally digital art is cheating "
"Don't use your phone to tell someone something just go to their house"
amazinggg
Yes.
Every minute in Africa another manga becomes "not real art".
Together we can stop this.
Now smash that like button
@@tartaglia5596 why does your name almost identically fit my discord status
@@tartaglia5596 see you in a few years then
@@tartaglia5596 that's pretty optimistic of you.
@@tartaglia5596 if thats the case Hb now?
Not mine but here's a quote that I really find inspiring.
"Talent is something you're born, it's a default in everyone and everyone will start off with a few talents. But your skill for those talents are something you have to develop. Nobody starts off skilled in their talent."
thank you dio, very cool
sounds oddly biblical, or at least it's close to it. either way, it's a great quote.
The only talent i have is my imagination
I very much like that. 😊
I was about to send a list of my talents and it was long, but i thought they were useless. I just realized that speaking 3 languages, creativity, and playing games CAN be useful.
So yes
The fact that drawing jojo’s Bizarre Adventure made me better at faces
They have a realistic artstyle and hey Araki uses greek posers as reference
Jojo helped me on drawing muscles
Lol I've got an art block because of Jojo's great style and fantastic characters, there are so many of them that I just wanted to draw every character but my brain just exploded because of tons of information and inspiration xD
@@臭い-x5t I get now why Disney’s Hercules seemed so Familiar to JoJo, same refrence
Lol first time watching it (it was good), then put my pen on a paper suddenly has a lot of hatching on my art.
"Anime isn't real art, it's a horrible reference and shouldn't be something you should be drawing, try something more artistic"
My art teacher told me this. I was 11.
*every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes*
@@SunSpot_248 *so inspiring*
I've seen comments like these so many times and every art youtuber I've watched has had this problem. Yet no art teacher so far have told me to not draw the way I do despite the obvious manga/anime influence in my art. Maybe I was lucky or maybe Swedish art teachers don't give a shit.
@@VoidStaresback nah you got lucky, though I live in the United States so teachers don't give a shit about kids, only a few do and they deserve to get paid more
Wow, like that will help their happy motivated art student and make them happier. That teacher needs to eff off, I mean..people have different art styles. There's a cartoon style, a realistic style, there is a wide variety. Take sleepykinq for example, I don't think he practiced much and did his own thing, and there were many changes along the way but all of his styles were amazing! Or Moriah Elizabeth, she didn't practice a lot either but her art is chefs kiss. That teacher should know better, FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS!
"Dont draw with a reference that's cheating!"
Their art:
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Good art 👍
_wonderful art that is_
Di molto
“I draw without reference” when i hear this all i can think of is: drawing without a reference never meant youre a better artist. When you go to art school you’ll use art references more times then using youre imagination
Still better in anatomy than mine :D
Omg when I was younger I took the “draw everyday” to heart. Like one day I broke down sobbing cause i hated my art so much and I felt I pressured to keep drawing the very think I hate I ended up taking a couple week break and it definitely improved a lot
Selfish artist giving bad advices to destroy the newbies 😧
@@chocoburgersenpai1627 hanlon's razor, don't crédit to malice what can be explained by ignorance
What i mean by this is that most people that give that advice don't do it because "they want to destroy newbies" but probably because they geniunly believe it's going to help, maybe it worked for them, or maybe they don't really know how to explain it in more detail so they just give a quick and easy piece of advice
@@carso1500 Most of the people don't know how to teach... And they made terrible advices, not only for art, but for every aspect of life...
I’m gonna be honest. I stopped drawing for a few weeks and GOT BETTER! Who knew XD
*I broke my foot and starting to draw the scene.*
I'm actually incredibly impressed with some anime/manga artists. You can tell from their work that not only do they _know_ human anatomy perfectly, but they're able to choose out only the most salient aspects to incorporate in every pose. It's perhaps the highest expression of minimalism meeting functionality in art. Every line has a purpose. Of course, the flip side of this is that you need to know anatomy to be a great anime artist.
My art teacher once took away my drawing pad when she saw I was drawing anime and told me that it was disgusting and that I need to paint realistic paintings if I wanted to improve. The next day I drew Joseph Joestar on her whiteboard saying "That's curious. Help me understand."
Weeb ThatWatchesUA-cam
The most surprising part about your comment is that you somehow managed to replicate Joseph in Araki style
👏👏👏
if anime is someone’s art style then, they can still improve
art isn’t just realism
Your teacher is a stupid donut, that’s a fact not an opinion
I have never seen a realistic artsy Kyle on the internet anymore unless it’s about an anime character. What’s popular now and will get you money is furry and hentai. Times have changed old man.
'You don't need fundamentals to draw cartoons'
What the!?!!
LMAOO NANIII?!!
Person doesn't like Cartoon: You don't need fundamentals to draw cartoons
Me: What is the shape of a stickman's head?
Person doesn't like Cartoon: A Circle... Wait
Me: Circle is one of the fundamentals.
Fundamentals helped me with cartoon art and just depends (for me) on what the style of art I am making and I like cartoon art but I'm not talking stick men kind of cartoon just not realism either.
@@liamharding412whatever you create - geometric (circle, triangle , square..) & organic shapes'r fundamental of any art that's universal
What- who said that????!??
"You don't need references. Just draw something from your imagination."
Bruh, that's still a reference, though.😅
And even then "what's in your head" is just a compiled of memories of things you saw, then twerked into what you want to draw. To learn everything you need references, how the fuck are going to know 1+1=2 if you never saw it, understood it, made your own calcs to affirm it's true? People who think not using references makes you a superior artist are so fucking dumb
@@jace_d your just supposed to know. Who cares if you've never seen the image, just use your imagination. Like for an example breathing isnt something we reference lol some people are so weak minded.
smh people these days dont even know what something looks like if they have never seen it before
@@jace_d ikr like thats STILL reference. its so dumb, they'd never know what anime is if they never heard of it lmAoo.
@@jace_d exactly! The only difference is that if you use your memories, people with good visual memories have a huge advantage, but beside that, pretty much anything you draw is derived from things you’ve seen
@@keshi5541 your joking right?
I don’t know who started the “don’t use reference” advice but they literally tell you in art school to use references, even when going professional. I never understood that one...
It originated on Tumblr, I think.
Idk either but I would love to meet them.
But anyways, I don't care if our school and professionals uses reference or they tell you to use reference..I'm drawing the art not them.
@@robokill387
What did they say exactly?
You never understand because you don't draw or can't. And you'll never understand art if you using reference.
@@zytotempol8154 I’m literally a professional artist but go off I guess.
"You'll never get a job in 2d animation or illustration"
My first jobs in the industry were both of those things.
Luckyyy
How’d you obtain them!? I’m getting close to highschool graduation 😓
Sadly, those are what my father told me harshly. I can't even take uni courses. I took computer science instead.
I had talent for it but i stopped drawing since then. But it seems i still had passion for it, so recently i started drawing again. It's been so long and its so hard to use drawing tablet. But I'm happy.
@@xenosecrets3972 bruh xenocreates
No one told me otherwise, of getting or not getting. But college did lead me astray to a path of getting nothing. And I really lack the knowledge of getting a job I desire properly, or a job at all.
Life sucks.
Good on you. Awesome!
"Anime isn't real art."
Honey, can you even draw real art? I doubt you guys can't even draw a simple line. Even stickman figures are art itself🙄
When people say ,,I can't draw" I just want to bash them with a box of pencils, because *drawing* a line on a piece of paper is art.
Anime is all I'm interested to draw the style is cool and fun so whoever says that it's not real is epic dumb
anime is a form of art, but people think drawing in an anime-inspired art style is called "drawing anime". no. anime is animated.
If you want stick figure art ,then do,
I recommend "hyuns dojo" it has very good art.
@@octosponge1499 people tend to say stuff like that because drawing strictly anime is very limiting, which is why in art school anime is frowned upon. Is anime art? Yes. However, depending on the context, drawing anime is not always the best option, like if your trying to learn shading, anatomy, landscape, etc, i highly recommend not drawing in an anime style until you mastered basic skills in what i listed
"You need to go to an art school to be good at drawing?"
Me, a cheap-ass teen: we don't do that here😎
LMAOO!!!
@CaptainCloud what do you spend that much money on?
Good thing if you get "rejected" you now conquered half of your country.
@CaptainCloud there's an industry?!
Lmaoo, yeh that advice is a Boomer mentality
I love how my friend said "Using marker is cheating" and "Digital art is cheating because they can undo and redo"
When I explain to him all the fundamentals and ideology, he just go "Ok fine, but you won't change my ideology"
I can't-
erasers exist too like lol
My uncle was a professional artist (until he passed away recently) who went to art school, worked on commission, and also did gallery shows. He also opened his own studio business about 10 yrs ago. His usual M.O., no matter what the final product would be, was to sketch, use pen and ink where he wanted, then make copies, so he could play with colors. Only then would he work on final piece. He also had no problem drawing things from memory or cartooning. He also sometimes worked his magic on his computer.
All this is to say, he had his own style, and I almost always knew that something was his when I saw it. And he had many interests and ways of doing things. To say that some of what he did wasn't art, is to say that you have no idea what you are talking about.
The best advice anyone ever gave me as an artist was advice I heard within the last 2 months. This advice was HOW to use references.
I was NEVER taught how to use references properly. Anytime I drew something, it was realism. I would copy the reference photo (singular) exactly line for line. This was thinking that stuck with me for the past 8 years.
This KILLED my motivation to get better at art because I felt that all I was doing was being a budget photo copier, rather than making art that felt like it was my own. I felt like all the creativity was beaten out of me by my art teachers, and now I can barely draw once a month because I lack a strong passion for art due to this very problem I'm describing. This also instilled the belief in me that I needed to draw without references in order to develop my own art style...
With all that being said, this is the advice I learned recently about how to use references. I was told that you can use references for poses, line quality, hairstyles, facial features (i.e. some people draw eyes differently than other people), clothing, backgrounds, etc. Not only this, but you can use real photo references mixed with other artists art as references so that you can adopt certain qualities you like from other artists artwork into your own style. An example of this would be using a real photo reference for the pose or composition as well as the background, then after laying down the sketch you use all the other reference images from various artists you enjoy to style that sketch in a way that symbolizes what you like. It's basically a collage of art when you think about it.
The fact that I went 8 years of my life not knowing this EXTREMELY VALUABLE ADVICE as an artist really bothers me. If I had learned this back in highschool, I would have never decreased the amount of time i spent drawing, and my passion wouldn't have dwindled to what it is now. I hope anyone who reads this can be spared from making the same mistake I made in believing that the only thing you can do is either copy a reference exactly as you see it, or draw without one and pray you develop a unique art style of your own out of thin air. I wasted so much time, don't be like me.
You are far too hard on yourself and you probably have plenty more time than you think.
"Art" is different for everybody, and not everyone is going to be into the same style of art, whether it's pictures, music, acting, or any other "art" form.
I make art myself, and I know that not everyone is going to appreciate it, but I value the ones who do, and I use it as a way to honestly express myself. If I was always worried about what others would think about my drawings if I did put them out there, I'd never start.
This is very important- the proper way to use reference is not what a lot of people tell uou
Honestly as someone who's trying to get back into art I want to be able to do hyperrealisim because once you can draw what you see, know how all the peices fit together and can get shading down right you can draw anything but that's just me personally.
@@Toastcat890 hyper realism is totally fine as technical practice so you're able to learn proportions and what not, but it became unhealthy for me when it was ALL I had ever done.
Imagine if all the art you had ever done had NO creative input what-so-ever. Due to the fact that all I had ever drawn was portrait art, I never learned how to BE CREATIVE.
This is what I'm struggling with as a result of ONLY focusing on hyper realism. I lack creativity and a passion for art due to the way I learned to draw.
Basically I'm saying it's totally fine for you to learn hyper realism, just don't make that your only focus or you could burn out on art like I did.
@@WilliamHaist People focus too much on "what's art" I've seen people saying folks who draw hyperrealisim only lack creativity or are aren't creative but what if that's what they like to these same people will crap on comic and anime/manga are while saying a dot or like on canvas is true creative are I just do art for fun so I don't care about creativity when I was into are I got to obsessed with things being creative and unique it sucked the fun right out of it for me so I don't bother with right now.
self-taught artist here:
1) Trace art to get a little muscle memory on how to draw specific shapes (like hair, eyes, hands, things you struggle with)
2) Keep drawing, but try 1 new thing on the new art, it might work or it might not (I improved on shading)
3) Don't get too hung up on how the initial sketch looks, color and a simple background can make the main art pop out and look better, and even some simple shading)
4) References are necessary to see what details you might miss if drawing a certain character (My Hero academia might have details in the clothes you miss, or how clothes might have shapes in specific spots)
@nailah tracing is actually great advice cuase it teaches a lot of important things.like how to draw a line,being aware of space,building muscles,ect.
Also art theft most the time doesn't actually matter.the only poeple that are extremely afraid of every art their are immature and don't know when something is actually worth the effort.
A kid just learning how to draw and showing their traced images IS NOT WORTH THE EFFORT TO ATTACK.it doesn't benefit the artist to attack kids that are tracing and all it does is discourage a new artist.
You know what is worth the effort?when companies are profiting off someone else's work,when someone that should know better is using it to get fame or when someone is profiting off traced images.
@nailah you litarily trace letters to learn how to write.
Tracing is practice esipceally if you're a beginner.
Also let me put what I wrote in simpler terms since you are to lazy to read.you are immature if you care about traced art done by a child.you are also pathic if you attack childern for tracing.since they are just learning how to draw.
@nailah tracing is not stealing if you're literally trying to understand the anatomy/structure of something.
There's a difference between learning structure and downright plagiarizing and not willing to learn.
Saying tracing is bad is short sighted. Tracing and passing it off as your own IS stealing, but tracing in itself is a useful learning tool. Let's say you trace the framework of an image for speed, then freehand the rest of the drawing to learn to shade and draw light values using your eyes. Sometimes I even trace my own work for speed. I quite like the grid method as a teaching tool as well, it teaches you to measure distances between parts of an image.
@nailah nuu, recently i realize tracing is good for people who first time touch pen tablet (unless you upload it without source, duh)
Second, its good to breakdown anatomy, to analysis: (bone, muscle, gesture line, dynamic pose, duh duh, etc, duh)
Edit: third, its can be first step to improve your line weighting
Bad art advice: "if you get these markers and these liners then it will improve"
this here, this takes the cake
I agree but you honestly can’t use the worst supplies either 🤷🏻♀️
@@loreta6476 I could totally put myself in your shoes. I wonder what her reaction would be when some people (me included) used either: 1) any tools, or pencils, or pen and papers (scrap papers included) they can find to just draw when the rush comes or 2) that broken tools that kept being used as we too lazy or just simply forgot to buy again.
I agree with you regarding skills first and not always the tools 😂. But, yes tools do play some certain roles. You could get good results using good and suitable tools. But you could also still got good results using bad tools. There're is a certain limitation (IMO) that could only be produced by bad tools (dry brush effect using an almost broken brush...etc). This limitation sometimes cannot always be recreated in some high-end tools...
I don't think the advice is bad but how's it worded is, and that it needs more in depth explaining. Some papers and tools will give you better results with the same level of skills, which I know by experience. But yes, it's not a magic trick and some artists get great results with literally one pencil/pen that's not even fancy.
I was once shamed for using colour pencils as a colouring tool since my friend hated using that and preferred highlighters and markers instead; she said that colour pencils make art look childish, damn.
i asked someone “how can i improve my shading?” they said “draw once a month, that will help you improve” my face went: 😁😦💀
Then you've ask the wrong person-
I been a victim of "dont ever draw your art sucks and you never improve"
This hurts me I stopped drawing for 5 years now I'm trying to get back since my friends see it as great as I am improving, most of them jus wants me to continue and the others wanted me to stop, "just cause they're reputable artist" and I was still new .
Just keep going, bro :)
Once you think this drawing of yours many weeks later look weird and awkward, that's when you have already improved and it always worth the shot.
😭😭ik
If anyone says that to you, tell it to their asses like, "bItCH IF yOU KNow So MUcH GIMmE a mAsTERPiECE bITcH-" Okay nvm- but srsly, this is your own art, your opinion, your masterpiece. No one has the rights to tell you that you won't be improve or your art sucks, cause can they even draw if they told you that?
Go go go !!!
The same thing happened to me but I'm trying to get back into it I try and draw sometimes but it just makes me kind of sad why? Because I feel like I'm worse now
"Don't use bases"
Bases made me get better at art ngl, it helped me with practicing how to draw hair on a head and clothes as well and i used bases before I began to draw it myself. Using a base is helpful for beginners to practice hair styles and shading
Exactly!
Bases are helpful. I hate when my art teacher tells me it's wrong. >_
What is a base?
@@artistrg3487 a base is like a pose reference but u can trace em ಠ◡ಠ
I think using bases won't improve ur understanding of anatomy tho ಠ_ಠ
“dont practice everyday”
I searched google for tips to get better and a lot of them were “practice everyday” so I pushed myself to draw everyday. woops
Drawing on a daily basis can help some people improve motivation, however you can grow tired of it quickly depending on what you're trying to do. Most of these tips i do agree with, however everyone improves at their own pace and everyone has their own ways of improving, so if you enjoy drawing every day, go for it! Just remember that you're not forced to. Draw when you truly feel like it or feel inspired to, don't push yourself too hard. If you want to improve on specific areas, you can focus on those areas and practice by doing whatever exercise fits best for that area (for example, studying anatomy and drawing quick body sketches, tracing, and drawing sketches of poses, or 'gesture drawings' helped me a lot with getting better at anatomy).
Basically, do what you feel comfortable with when you draw, but do not be afraid to try different things, and try not to overwork yourself too much if you're still a beginning artist. Some times we really do need to take a break to refresh our minds.
That's not what he meant, If you draw everyday, but don't try improving your art on any way, then you aren't getting anywhere. For example, not only drawing people, faces, eyes, do a variety, try shading, objects, animals. What he means is if you draw the same thing everyday you won't improve.
True I had the same mindset but one thing I learned when I first started on my art development I recommend actually taking a break because over time I got stressed because I didn’t feel like I was getting anywhere I felt like giving up, you should take a break when you get to that point because when you give your mind a rest you can think clearly and then you catch on quicker I improved so much after taking breaks
Breaks are important. But don't quit entirely if art is something you want to get good at.
Just draw whenever you feel like it. You can only really draw well when you're in the mood and want to. Well, that's what I think
"Hard Work will always beat real Talent"
-Rock Lee
not in the universe of Naruto
SAY THAT AGAIN. REPEAT THAT TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO KEEPS SAYING "wow i wish i could also draw like you..... " WHILE HAVING THE AUDACITY TO COMPARE THEIR STICKMAN DRAWINGS
@@hannahfaithperillo8185 Hate that kind of ppl the most. They compare and despise their own art without even trying to improve.
Welp in my books real talent IS hardwork. A baby isnt born knowing how to paint like a master. I also get a bit vexed about how people portray talent as this thing you need to have in the beginning, it really isnt.
Your opinion obviously.
Real Talent beats hard work.
What's ironic is that half the people giving advice don't know anything about art
They probably also call any art that’s been made in the past 5 years “modern art”
I disagree
I know jackshit about art, but I give good advice
@@the-og-cerealkiller Haha I'm the opposite. I'm pretty good at art, but my advice sucks.
AshMash Eq FACTS, if I get asked for advice in real life, I freeze up and don’t end up giving any advice
On the internet, I try to explain, realize it’s not going anywhere and just link videos that I think are helpful 💀
If you don't know how to draw, don't give advice on how to IMPROVE, tell them what they can FIX.
"Don't use references" that's the biggest lie that I've ever heard in my life. Even the old great masters use them, it is assumed that art is a representation of the real-life, So how could we represent it if we don't take it as a reference for our works? When they say that, it is as if they told a child that learning to read with a textbook is wrong because is cheating.
It's like people don't understand the difference between using a reference to create an original piece and plagariazing someone else's work.
I believe the phrase is "art imitates life". I was encouraged to use reference pictures in art class. Two of the most wonderful people I'm honored to have called my art teachers.
Your opinion. Your the lie and your lying.
Don't use reference. If not then why draw...unless you do it as a 'hobby'..not as art. Only most people used reference. "Masters"?? Lol!
How can you show and draw without reference? Atleast try to use your head. (You wanted an answer, I gave you it.)
Textbook? You don't read textbooks, you make a story and then later in the years.. you read a book; that should be obvious to know that 🤦.
@@kaptenlemper
Creating is from the person not what's already there.
@@lilscenechick1995
Not all.
Not Using reference really the worst of them. You really got me with what you say about using reference because is true. The most professional artist have looked tons of reference and because of that they draw more easy.
But today the people make you feel like you are cheating or estealing when you look for a pose or a landscape or ideas ..
And the anime is not real art...is a classic with digital art is no real art
yeah! it's best to not pay attention to any of them and just focus on making great art! use reference if you have too!
I literally can't use reference. My brains can't transfer what i see on paper everything looks wrong.
@@demoniac4821 But maybe this is your art. I have seen artists sell really wrong stuff and they make money out of it.
You know Egon Schiele? His drawings are amazing but somehow they look wrong. But yet amazing.
@@Leprutz That's encouraging but I'm inclined to say that they should just practise being able to translate what they see to paper lol
Anime isn't the only one affected by the "it's not real art" problem, even Video Games got the same problem!
"Draw everyday"
That's the same as saying
"How do I fight?"
"Punching"
It should be more specific, like practice this part or practice that part. Not just "Do it everyday" you would have no idea on how to start
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or not
Which is not actual a bad advice... Practice makes perfect in everything. It's a generic advice, and I dont see it as bad. If I tell that to someone, it doesnt entitle them to give them my time to explain everything in great detail. As an example... I hate when ppl ask me... "Teach me 3D!"... And my answer is always "It is too much of a complex subject, with sub-subjects within, for me to simply tell you how to 3D. If you have any specific questions, I can try to help you though". Telling someone to practice... not bad advice. Sorry, not sorry.
@@VectorPlexus As someone who was told to just practice and draw every day when I was a beginner back in middle school, it wasn’t helpful advice at all. Even though I tried to draw every day, I kept getting stuck from trying to improve and became too slow at improving that it took me 3 years until I noticed some actual improvement from myself because nobody specified how I should practice to improve at a moderate pace, and drawing every day became a chore and it made me hate my own art for so long that I had a terrible burnout and afterwards I only made a drawing once every other month (and I disliked most of those drawings) for around 4 years up until now.
It’s been 8 years since I’ve been drawing and I’m still not great at anatomy, dynamic poses, proportions, and clothing because of the unhelpful and very vague advice that I was given from so long ago that made me confused on how to improve at the beginning and ended up making me improve way too slow, despise most of my art pieces (I’m trying to have a better relationship with my drawings right now), and caused a very long burnout.
I honestly wished someone was more specific and told me when I was a beginner how to practice more efficiently than just saying to draw every day (and hope for the best).
Basically, the original commenter saying that telling someone to just practice is not good advice to say because it’s not specific. It makes beginner artists wonder, “But *how* do I practice efficiently?” and they’ll end up being stuck in a rut for months or maybe even years (like me in the past). It’s the same as the analogy they said. You can’t just tell someone to just punch when fighting; They should be informed that it’s not all about punching, but many various fighting techniques to really improve.
How to cook?
*C o o k*
Uh, no.
Teacher: What will you do after graduating?
Me: Study art.
Teacher: What a waste.
Me silently having my soul crushed because when a teacher said stuff to me back then I took it waaay too seriously, not realizing they are people that can be wrong.
Maria Kilson, I feel so bad for you, I know how taking things seriously feels like. I mostly take bad things seriously because I don't even know why but it really can hurt.. But I learned to take back on it because of my girlfriend, and I'm sure you'll find someone who will encourage you more and more aswell!
Michelle Lim, that's just horrible! I think parents should encourage their kids more than teachers do because they live with them on daily basis! But that's just toxic, taking your dreams taken away from you aswell.. If I could give a good advice to you too, it would be that don't let this stop you! I know one day you're going tonbe a great artist, no matter what kind
@@michellelim9700 no problem at all, I like to help and encourage people I can! And I know I don't have a say in this, but you really should get a job that you personally like.. I had known of so many people that aren't happy with their jobs and are living in constant stress and are falling deeper and deepee into depression and other things.. I just don't want others to end up like that
@@michellelim9700 did you have any interest in programming or computers at all? i ask this bc my parents also pushed me into getting a cs degree when i said i was interested in art. i've always enjoyed coding so i went with it. plus there were creative courses like game design, so it's not like i had to sacrifice art altogether. now years since graduating i'm kind of glad they did tbh. working in the it industry has been great esp during the pandemic and i can still draw every day
@@michellelim9700 it's no problem at all and you're welcome! 😊
"Tracing your own art is horrible and you would learn nothing from it!"
That's the worst one I saw before,
I never heard that one before and I find tracing rather useful
*Laughs in digital art while drawing for my lineart after the sketch
why would someone say that? they are just the idiots they are i guess...
@ANGELMANCY IDK a lot of these people don't know what line art is
"I draw from my head."
"Ok. How did the knowledge and the drawings get inside your head?"
"...I looked at references."
Exactly
True
Well yeah but you kinda learn the movements and the anatomy so you can draw from your head-
"there is no age to start at art" and I have to thank you for this video. had to come back here to thank. I'm 31 and starting this month my art journey, finally got the corage to change carreer and feel so happy. ty so much 🌌
good luck to you!
You can do it
King
"Don't do digital art, the computer does everything"
K boomer.
Whoever said this has obviously never tried digital art.
Semi realistic pictures where people take as references are mostly from digital art.
I used to think like that..... When i was 7
I legit had a comment similar to this yesterday. Because I painted traditionally not digitally. I love digital work. But I wanted to learn more about colors and yada yada so I did a traditional piece. The were like "Traditional medium is more satisfying isnt it?" like no. All creation of art is satisfying. Challenges come with all different mediums. /rant lol
Yeah I got curious about digital art and tried it. They're hard and I have no idea what are these tools about and so many brushes, and effects.
Most tutorial I search never explain why they do the thing, just tell you to follow exactly what they did so I still had no idea what the tools actually do.
Well, I also can't draw traditional anyway.
"Digital art isn't real art" is the second most ignorant thing ever said...next to "Using references is cheating." What goes through people's heads to think this way?
They're just salty because they can't learn how to use new tools and they think everyone should be like that
Digital art is so much harder than traditional art imo
Because in digital you have a lasso tool to move lines around after you've already placed them, layers you can edit completely independently, COMPLETE control over every POINT of colour, the ability to erase complety cleanly a layer at a time, an undo (and redo) button, extremely low material costs past the initial investment in a tablet (unless you're using subscription software), etc. Plus you can save, upload and share your art in perfect quality digitally with no special equipment or hassle or having to deal with physical exhibition or shipping. It boils down to "hey, no fair, digital art is too easy."
Conversely it can be difficult to make digital look "natural." Good luck finding a brush that accurately emulates the line quality of a fineliner for example, let alone something crazy like a sumi-e brush (I've seen brushes that explicitly try, but aren't even close). Watercolour/stain tools tend to work from different textures that get applied at low opacity, which may look good at a glance, but results in a homogeneity that is simply not present with tradmed. Also drawing on glass can be tough purely in terms of manual dexterity since even textured tablets don't grip a pen like paper, and you have to choose between every slight hand tremor becoming very noticeable at the pixel level, and autosmoothing that destroys precision (tho the simple workaround for both is drawing at a very high resolution). I'm assuming the use of a display tablet too; if you're drawing with an old style of tablet or god forbid a mouse (I say as a MASTER of mouse drawing and the king of steady hands), you have to have excellent hand-eye coordination and put in way more effort for every line. Those are the challenges of digital, but if you're just salty about digital artists being more productive than you and getting more attention because they can easily share their art with many people in perfect quality, you'll probably ignore those downsides (or play up the first couple as aesthetic evidence that digital art is not art because it isn't FINE art or something), assuming you've even tried it yourself to know what drawing or painting digitally is like.
@@kennedyb6872 are you using a mouse/non display tablet? Because even with the other downsides I mentioned I can't imagine how else someone would think this. Traditional is more satisfying imo but digital is like drawing in easy mode. It's like comparing walking a tightrope with no assistance (traditional) to walking a slackline with safety lines and a balance bar and a net (digital). In both cases you make it to the other side and the audience cheers, but the digital artist, while walking a slackline (which tends to wobble, making balance harder), had a much easier time from all the safety and countermeasures at play.
Think about it this way you save paper when you draw digitally and it’s real art.
"Anime is not real art"
Me, who has a pretty anime-ish art style, and draws a lot of anime fanart: This taste... is the taste of a liar! Giorno Giovanna!
👀
Anime is art. That said, I don't mean to disrespect but I always saw it as inferior art. Maybe that's the reason folk don't take it seriously, especially old people
@Vlad Vorland Productions I believe you can use the anime artstyle to produce great and inspirational work. If you are a really good artist you will eventually reach its full extent. But you won't produce a masterpiece with similar value to a Rembrandt or a William Turner painting
But that's just my opinion, of course
As soon as I heard this my heart litterally broke- When I heard that "Anime is not art"
The only time I give the advice "Draw more" is for the people who expect to be good at drawing just because they have a pen and a paper. Like, I've had people who never draw and they ask something like "how do you get so good?"... and I'm like.. "one of the fundamentals to get better is that you actually DO the thing-"
"Stop drawing ocs that are a part of (insert fandom here)!"
"Stick to one artstyle, it'll be less confusing."
"Stop drawing (insert thing here)."
"The only TRUE art is realism."
"Animation isn't art!"
Help
(Edit: spelling)
*every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes*
Pretty sure most people who spew this crap have never put pencil to paper (or tried digital art...which in my experience is very difficult!).
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@@xavien_818 these motherfucking idiots think theyre right
@@avidnoceur y e s
I still can't grasp the fact that i've read artists say: "if you really love art you won't get tired/unmotivated by it.". Along those lines.. They might mean something different because surely they know how it feels right? It's just such a horrible thing to say and it makes me feel that Art isnt for me... That type of pressure from real working artists.
Best advice is never to take advice from anyone. Form your own opinion.
@@chocoburgersenpai1627 this is the most true thing I have ever heard from anyone, thank you so much
"You have to be born with talent, you can't get it with hard work"
Every anime protagonist wants to know your location
My dad said to my worst art advice " Stop art, it's not a really job, you will be poor all your life"
Finally my mother, left him, and now she is master in enameling,and win his money like this, and me, I want to be illustrator artist and I don't give up!
Thanks for video, you give me sooo much motivation!
I've attended a lecture from Kim Jung Gi, and it felt kinda palpable that he was tired of all the generic art questions he receives like "what kind of pen do you use?", "how long did it take you to get there?" etc., because it felt like people wanted to fast track their process rather than learn the fundamentals and work their way up to proficiency the way he did.
When he mentioned drawing bodies, he gave the advice of "just touch it" and to feel the way things look because it helps you grasp concepts more, and I kinda really got that. He also leans to drawing things in boxes first (in his head of course), and working with that especially when using perspective.
It was incredibly insightful and inspiring to see him draw live, and I feel like nowadays, people tend to wanna draw better fast because comparison is social media is just too rampant now. It might be difficult to ignore, but we should really pace ourselves to OUR ability rather than try to fast track to be the quickest to draw like Kim Jung Gi as soon as we hit 16.
"OMG~You're so talented~" I've been drawing since I was in grade school to escape the arguments and abuse in my home, and bullies from school. It went from a safe haven to my lifelong hobby. It's been a journey, It was never about natural talent... If your art is being put down, or feel discouraged to work hard cause "you'll never be good" or "aren't talented", it's a long and hard journey, and no one was a pro in the beginning. Please, don't give up! I believe in you! I hope I'll see your art around the internet with a million likes in the future!
Heres a dnd metaphore for the whole “U nEeD tO BE bOtN aN aRTIsT” thing. Your begining stats are determined by random chance. Some people are naturally stronger, smarter, more flexible. Some people learn better. Some people have higher intelligence. But every time you level up those stats increase. Leveling up is the parallel to growing your skill. If you have a base stat of 5 in art, and another person has a 20, if you keep working hard and leveling up, your stat will be just as high! It doesnt mean anyones better than you just because they got lucky and rolled a 20.
No. That's your opinion.
It's all about drawing and loving what you draw; that's being strong and smart.
I was so weak as an artist. Once my sister gave me advice, and I broke down. I hid in my room and just stayed there. Drawing is a coping mechanism for me. It just calms me down. I didn't have my sketchbook, and I left my drawing tablet downstairs. I was just left in my room. My sisters friends where agreeing with her, CAUSE SHE WAS GIVING LEGIT ADVICE, and I was just being dramatic, telling her she wasn't being specific enough. They made me feel horrible. I drew her a picture of a complex character, and she told me that I didn't look alive enough. The character was in a chair reading a book, and she did it to help me improve. I knew I needed to practice, but... I didn't know where to start. I was just so weak. I eventually got better at art, cause I practice body part, I drew what I like, and when I felt like it. I never stopped. It goes to show, that you shouldn't 'give up art'. You shouldn't 'not use references'. If someone is doing something they love, don't make them feel bad. I almost fell into a deep depression, cause, I felt worthless. Drawing made me feel better, I'm happy I didn't stop. The art advice I was told was good art advice. I was just... ashamed of my art.
Even Hirohiko Araki-sama use references to draw
sike yeah dude, a lot of artists in the industry use references, i don’t see why people say it’s “cheating” or it won’t help your art
Once saw a video of him painting a poster and he even used like ancient statues, fashion magazine pics, etc. I don't think any less of him, the guy is just amazing!
Everyone uses references (that's a fact)
Even Eiichiro Oda use references for several characters and environments in One Piece
I'll let you in on my secret, I actually learned how to draw from *gulp* tracing xD
I had friends in elementary who drew and I traced but by doing so I learned basic things of how things are drawn. The shapes and whatnot,so one day I took a pic and using what I learned drew it myself. I still have that pic today,I no longer trace.
@@HeroOfThePeople Don't be ashamed to admit that (although it does still has a bad reputation through the art community)
I (also) learned that by tracing back in elementary school, Now I rarely use tracing for some small stuff. but I did learn a lot of useful thanks to that.
Noob: Referencing is cheating
ChadEthanBecker: PROS DON´T GUESS, PROS REFERENCE
Great video as always man! really myth busting the hell out of those art misconceptions haha
that is true, even if we are claiming to draw from our minds, we are still referencing from things we have seen before, all art has a reference of some sort
@DangerX6 Angel9 yea no it’s not cause a lot a great artist start off from reference to get where they need to be animators,artists and etc *because it’s like copying from something you don’t own* why do you think people let other reference from there art so they can learn. The comment right there is not exactly needed like that but if you thinks it’s copying good for you then I am sure your art is just as great and I am not saying it out of sarcasm either but one day if you were to make a piece and you didn’t know what it looked like then pretty much your gonna have to reference it but I am sure what your comment meant was that *you don’t own the own make it into your way your own drawing* now with anatomy I can’t say much about that you can imagine sure but it doesn’t help all the time.
@DangerX6 Angel9 so why say it’s copying? You don’t believe people can be great with reference? What’s the point if your gonna say that it’s copying just because you think that it’s good or not I’m sorry but whether you like it or not there are gonna be better artist than you everyday because of referencing I’m sorry but you don’t own the art piece like that you don’t own the anatomy you.don’t.own.the.character at all that’s like stealing of what someone said you didn’t come up with that so basically your copying of what people are saying everyday. but still I’m glad you can do it without reference I am actually interested in seeing it for my self if what you say is really true and you don’t use referencing.
@DangerX6 Angel9 I feel like you don't understand why people reference things, it isn't to steal it, it's to work as a base to help them understand the fundamentals.
Using a reference is extremely helpful, It helps teach people the anatomy of the style they're trying to portray. That is very important. Without a reference, many beginner artists (myself included) would not know how to draw certain things well, they wouldn't know how to train it so that someday, they won't need a reference anymore.
They won't need a reference anymore because they finally understand how the body parts work. They can recall it from memory because they did it so many times that they're familiar with it now. It isn't cheating, it's helping someone understand better.
The style, reference, or tutorial you learned from might not be yours, but those lines you made, those poses you did, those expressions your character does, they all belong to you. You drew them, not someone else.
There is a point where it becomes a problem though, you never want to completely COPY another's style. Unless you are trying to replicate it, which I would never recommend unless it is for a certain purpose, It is very hard to replicate someone else's style, people! don't forget it.
Also, even if you are as skilled as you say you are, I highly doubt you've never used a reference before, I'll call that bluff. Never? I doubt that, and even if it's true, and even if your art is the best art I have ever seen, you shouldn't insult other artists for using references. The End, Period.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
@DangerX6 Angel9 I... am having a hard time understanding what you're saying, sorry... English isn't your first language, I'm assuming. I am not trying to sound mean, but could you please explain again what you're trying to say?
No, building off of someone else's teaching or examples isn't stealing, it is gaining experience. and just because you're using a reference doesn't mean you can't use your imagination, you're using it to help figure out how to draw things you struggle with, nobody learns this sort of stuff in a day, even you, I'm sure.
Are you, by any chance, confusing referencing with tracing? because tracing IS bad and IS stealing someone's art, and you don't gain much experience from that. referencing is taking an example, and translating it onto your own canvas without blatantly copying it.
Tracing is just stealing.
No, you probably won't use references forever, once you gain the confidence to draw the thing you're referencing yourself, you wont need them anymore. It is extremely important.
Myself who's despite being a traditional artist, I have always admired the people who does digital drawings because if you think about it it isn't easy to draw on digital either, I once try it and say: "Damn...how did they draw it on tablets, computer, etc...so easy???" Then I realized they also have to struggle and practice everyday to be able to draw those beautifully breathtaking arts! Just because having technology helping you doesn't mean you could just sit there and let drawings do it it selves??? I always admired the people who does amazing art on even traditional or digital...because the skills are the most important thing of an artist, so yeah...anything can be art, whether on papers or devices, it depend solely on your skill, determination and love for art and drawing...and I'm proud to be in the artist community!
“Never shade with black”
That’s basically like the exact opposite advice that my friend always said her high school art teacher taught them. He told them to basically ALWAYS shade dark-as dark as u can and to not be afraid to do it for every drawing.
Both extremes to me sound like bad advice. At least when someone says to ALWAYS do something a certain way (without taking art style or medium into account).
It's interesting to hear that an art teacher gave that advice. I'll say this: beginners tend to be too line-dependent/ shade too dark. But intermediate artists tend to go too low-contrast & need to shade darker. So usually I suggest to shade darker in the shadows & lighter (less contrast) in the light
I guess people never read comics or mangas
I believe that that techniques are mainly applied to traditional art but not digital art world. But what about "ink drawing, pen and ink techniques? They used black india ink......
Whygeun Jung Of course there are different styles and mediums, I brought that up in what I originally stated, but saying to ALWAYS do something seems a little extreme.
And with digital u can easily erase or delete mistakes and shades u don’t like. Continuing to darken a color, say, using something traditional like pencils or markers won’t nearly be as easy to correct or erase if needed.
Josh Flowers ...I don’t think you’re understanding my comment??
(Or..maybe didn’t read past the top quoted sentence)
The art teacher was teaching the importance of ALWAYS shading as dark as you can. He wasn’t a manga artist or comic book illustrator, just her high school traditional art teacher.
I also stated he was saying to ALWAYS shade dark, really no matter the style or medium.
Him saying to ALWAYS do it that way doesn’t seem like the best advice to me.
"You need to use a drawing tablet!"
Me: pathetic, I draw in MS paint with a mouse, peasants.
Well saying you need a drawing tablet mean's you need to be broke
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How the actual f*** did you manage that?
*Laughs in ibis and fingers*
Ibis paint and MS paint?? Noo!! That's too much po w e r-
Hahaha ibis fingers flipaclip
"Stop using reference"
Me, a JoJo fan: no, I don't think I will
"I refuse!"
I saw Hirohiko Akari drawing using a magazine for reference...
*DAGA KOTOWARU*
@@Voldrim359 Magazine has a lot of interesting poses and clothes design so...
"Dagakotowaru"
I was once in my part time assisting nurses on the ICU, it was the dark time when the relatives are not allowed to come in together, only one of them could and should have their disposable PPEs but, only one could enter...
whenever a patient pass away, I always beg to the nurse to have like 3-5 minutes or something that could make me draw them as part of my gratitude to be one of those that helped them live even when everything seems grey for their family. I always give my drawings on their family and even if without gaining any money on all of those drawings, I helped them more to cope with not being able to see them.
They always are grateful for what I did and I'll always be humbled to draw for them through referencing their family especially that time they couldn't ever visit them in-all together..
ngl. For 5 years straight, ive never seen a bad person in the drawing/painting community. I trully love being in this community and it really feels like im imrpoving and is frustated with everyone and not just myself. I love how we think our art sucks but compliments every art we see but ourselves. I really really love this community. DONT GIVE UP I LOVE YOU AND YOUR ART EVERYONE!!!1!1!!1!!!1!1!1
sorry for the cringe i had to type everything from my heart lmao
The most hillarous thing i've ever heard about art of someone who don't know anything about art is "don't make so many lines, that looks gross (refering about the sketch)"
"Oh! So drawing is doing lines and curves?"
No shit Einstein
sho soy una leshuga
Isn't so bad if they phrase it better, "don't overcomplicate your sketch by adding too many details, it could look very messy"
did you slap them? please tell me you did :(
Well there is some truth to line confidence, it makes a smoother image overall but there is absolutely nothing wrong with hatch sketching as I call it. That's what we have erasers for!
“Anime is not real art”
My love of dragon ball is literally how I got into drawing, and it’s helped me improve tremendously!
It's like the people who say that "Rap is not real music" or "wrestlers are not real athletes".
They think that their opinion is truth and they want everyone else to agree with them, and the ones who don't are simply wrong. They can't handle hearing different points of views.
A lot of my drawings are anime-inspired. It looks aesthetically pleasing and some of the animation is better than what's here in the US!
Same anime is what got me into art I tried to draw realisticly but I hated it and it was really boring. Then I started watching anime and I felt inspired again
"It isn't even that hard"
"Just draw"
"DRAW EVRY DAY"
"practice"
"You should draw like [ insert an amazing artist]"
"Drawing cartoons won't get you anywhere"
"Don't use references" you focken wot m8. First thing you learn in art class is how to reference shapes. In every series that shows an art class they're referencing a statue or live person. Sketching from life is literally live reference. Great vid. Had no idea peeps with this mentality existed.
dude! i was literally gassed!!!
Standards? What are those?
Yeah, the internet really brings out the worst in people. 😒
And you're just there like: Oh ok I guess I won't draw that "Greece God" model. That the school pay $300 for.
@@xQuandaleDinglex BUt it can also bring out the best in people.
As a kid who started out my elementary teacher just says,
"It needs more color" to my graphite drawing. Even though I was inspired by a comic artist who drew in black and white.
You must've been like; "Bruh.. 🤦"
*every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes*
@@slotheatworld That was the exact feeling yes
Bad advice: “Always keep your line art clean”
I can understand most styles benefiting from clean line art, and having most of your portfolio pieces using clean line art is definitely important for getting industry work, but when you’re doing personal projects or personal work, sketchy (not messy) line art is a great way to speed up your work flow while giving your artwork a personal feel and personality.
Yea, I recently gave up on clean lineart, and I think my art looks much better now. I don't plan to go back.
Sorry I can't relate lol
A clean, smooth, sharp lineart is my specialty 😂
I'm an environment designer & I've never drawn line art unless a client insisted on heavily lined forms for some reason. Kids seem to place too much importance on it today bc they want to draw comics & anime, which is fine. But there are many industry jobs that aren't line-dependent
Broke: drawing a bunch of lines everywhere and thinking it looks good because like looking at clouds your brain can pick out the figure composed of 2% of those lines
Woke: using that as a sketch and inking the actual figure
Bespoke: just erasing the mess on the sketch to leave the actual figure, like michelangelo carving it out of marble
LMAO LINEART WHOSE SHE
drawing is my hobby, im so excited if my drawing goes my way, and sometimes feel depressed when my drawing sucks, im struggling on many parts
I feel you. Drawing is something I do to give myself more ideas and feel happy and free.