Just started Dr Who recently. I'd always assumed Daleks were some kind of joke based on only knowing their appearance. Seeing the Doctor be downright terrified and then hateful of one was one of the most effective establishments of a threat I think I've ever seen.
Somewhere around 2006 scrolling through channels I came across that episode which was my first contact with Doctor Who. The episode was already half way through and my only reaction was laugh, as I saw this over-sized industrial vacuum cleaner killing people with x-ray laser shooting from flimsy metal stick. I was quite taken aback though when Dalek opened its casing and presented me with this disgusting, but sad looking mutant. I wasn't hooked yet, but I kept that memory for a long time until I finally gave series a chance few years later. Recently, I caught up with series 10 i 11 and I'm still amazed how they manage to make cheesy looking monsters (like Daleks or 1st gen Cyberman) absolutely terrifying.
@@DoubleU555 My favorites are Doctors 9, 10, and 11 (this is 9). After that I didn’t like the writing much. Even during 11, my favorite, things started going downhill. (Not his fault, the writers).
@@lisbethtrisdelle350 I'm only two seasons into the 12th doctor right now, but those two seasons have been some of my favorite, and 12th is maybe my favorite version of The Doctor yet.
The Daleks have been diluted as a threat, but I will say that up through part of 12's tenure, where I stopped watching, for reasons not tied to quality, the Doctors are still good. The villains have their peaks, but 9 through 12? I still can't pick.
There is a reason the Daleks never put an end to The Doctor. I suspect it's Admiration. Seeing what they admire, this doesn't paint him in the best light.
aerosky theory sounds nice but you have to remember that not only was that a different writer who made that cannon the episode came out decades after the daleks and davros was introduced and so theres no way that would be true, and thats the problem when trying to change canon. But nice theory
Absolutely LOVE the Doctor saying “I had no choice” when the Dalek asks him if he really wiped them all out. The Daleks are about as close to irredeemably evil as you can get, and the Doctor, even at his darkest and most hateful, only exterminated them as an absolute last resort.
@@sub-zero5433 Empathy makes any extinction a tragedy, especially if done by your own hand, and no matter how "evil" they were It's like a faint hope that maybe they could have turned out okay, but instead the universe grows dimmer with each disappearing species
@@LoLaSnI remember the fourth doctor had the chance to prevent the Daleks from ever existing beyond Skaro and he couldn’t bring himself to do it despite knowing some of what they would grow to do.
2005’s ‘Dalek’ is in my opinion the single greatest depiction of these iconic villains in Doctor Who’s entire 59 year history. Of course, they’ve had many great stories over the years, but a lone Dalek, able to cause such destruction and threaten all human life on the planet…Terrifying. An absolute masterpiece of a story! Massive pat on the back deserved for writer Robert Shearman.
"I watched it happen! I MADE IT HAPPEN!" "You destroyed us!" That sudden change from happy to sad. That's why I loved Christopher's doctor, those moments like these when a dalek could just talk to the doctor
I love this scene because it is the moment that the two absolute enemies (Time Lord (The Doctor) and Dalek), who were last of their own races, which were destroyed by the war between themselves. And there where are? The only two survivors from races that fight with each other.
The way Christopher is in this episode is just perfect. He still hasn't fully recovered from the war. All the hatred burning in him is something that I love about his performance. I would love to see more of this side
Am I wrong is Eccleston's Doctor immediately after the War Doctor? Because if thats so, then I dont think he's even begun to recover. I don't think we know how much time has passed since John Hurt became Eccleston but I think its fair to say its still recent
@@NTWoo95 The first episode of NuWho is immediately post-regeneration. That's why he's doing things like staring at himself in the mirror and testing whether he can still do card tricks.
"What's the nearest town?" "Salt Lake City" "Population?" "One million" "All dead." The thought that a single Dalek could kill one million people is what truly made them scary
One million is nothing to a Dalek. In the scene, where the Cult of Skaro meet with the Cybermen, ua-cam.com/video/UCsXO7r6-z4/v-deo.html after 3:10 the cybermen just try to intimidate the four daleks, that they have an army of five millions of cybermen. The answer stated, that one Dalek should be more than enough to take care of them.
@@Senok13 Love that scene. "You would destroy the Cybermen with 4 Daleks?" "We would destroy the Cybermen with 1 Dalek. You are superior in only one respect." "What is that?" "You are superior at dying."
Before I watched this scene, I didn't know what a Dalek was. Chris' acting here made it immediately clear to me that they were truly terrifying-- the first creatures I'd seen The Doctor run from. And then, of course, he shows us that The Doctor can be just as terrifying, too-- and not only because he's frankly intimidating when he shouts. It's because he doesn't hesitate to torture it. Not for a second. It is for showing us that guilty, blood-soaked conscience, that underlying, ancient anger, that impulsive rage at the Universe that Chris surely portrayed one of the most fascinating incarnations of The Doctor.
It's like in just one scene new viewers like myself understood how scary The Doctor and the Daleks truly are. For me for The Doctor, it's his few lines before he himself says exterminate and the expressions on his face to show that when facing the Daleks, how much of his sanity is gone from the Time War.
This scene is so well-done in hindsight when you realise that the Dalek was waiting for the touch of a time-traveller to revive it. It tries to provoke the Doctor and Rose both in different ways; with Rose it made her feel sorry for it, but with the Doctor it goaded him. It isn't much like a Dalek to call someone a coward, or tell them to keep back. Or to lament that it's alone. And it nearly worked, too, the Doctor walked right up to it and almost touched it before he thought better of it. The Daleks may not have emotions but they sure do know how to exploit the emotional weaknesses of their enemies when necessary.
The Doctor knew pretty well that the Daleks could use "time travel radiation stuff" as a source of energy at the very least. He got close for effect, presumably, but he was careful not to touch him.
@@dynastyconflate3379 When the Dalek said "We are the same", the doctor was running so much on instinct that he actually almost accidently touched it. But that is when he probably realised what the dalek was looking for and decided to put an end to it.
@LordDaret honestly that works as a bit of neat foreshadowing, the Doctor, pissed as he is, won't touch a Dalek even though he has in the past, fans would be thinking why not touch this defeated and helpless Dalek until Rose puts her palm on it
TheGreenTaco999 No, they can show emotion most of the time. Just things like anger and hatred. They can't be sad, or happy, or show remorse. They only do that when broken, like this one, or Rusty.
Spidey View No offense, but you know that there were 8 previous incarnations before the War Doctor, right? The Doctor had been out there seeing the universe and saving lives long before the Time War, and he met the Daleks as far back as his first incarnation. (William Hartnell.) He was around 400 or so then, and while the Doctor said he was 900 in the first few seasons of the new series, he already said he was 950 during his Seventh incarnation, and there was also a 400 year gap during the Time War. In other words, the Doctor lies about his age, (First Rule: The Doctor Lies) so he'd been fighting the Daleks on and off for at least 500 years before the Time War broke out. (And if you read or listen to the Eight Doctor audios, then it could be easily more than that, as he once spent several hundred years stranded on another planet in one story.)
+Spidey View (SpideyViewer) Yeah, no. He hated them by the time Doctor #2 came onto the show. How do I know that? In his one and only surviving episode of a Dalek story (which was a 7 parter) he outright called the humans working with them "idiots". 4 almost committed genocide and nearly wiped them all out. And now you know how The Time War started. 7 actually successfully convinced one to commit suicide. He hated them LONG before the Time War.
Fantastic actor... at 2:46 just as the Dalek finishes saying "so are you" you can see the Doctor's face begin to twitch as the anger and regret come pouring back.
The “and the coward survived” line is honestly a very underrated line. Under the surface it sounds like a dig at the Doctor. The man who always runs, the man who fights without a weapon, the coward survived. But honestly I think it was talking about itself. Metaltron ran away from the time war when it was ending. It got scared and sent itself hurtling into space and time to survive. It fled out of fear and now it’s the last of its kind. It was a coward and it survived. Honestly… kinda makes me feel a little sorry for it despite what it is.
Such a brilliant scene, two war veterans on opposing sides who have both done terrible things and have more in common than either of them would like to admit. It gives not only Chris Eccelston a great chance to show his acting range but it also gave Nicholas Briggs the chance to deliver a great first impression as the new voice of the Daleks
You feel bad for him because you realize that not only does he not understand, but he is in many ways blameless. A grunt that might have never seen battle, bred to follow orders and now utterly terrified and confined to a world of agony and isolation...and when he reaches his most pathetic moment he reaches out to his mortal enemy for a fleeting second of comfort and is denied, left to continue his pain. Abandoned and forgotten over and over again...but certainly not beyond suffering.
I agree, I know it is a dalek, but it appears to have "changed its stripes" (the personality changed), hence I feel sorry for it. It was only doing what it was told to do, and would continue to do that, as didn't know any difference.
The problem is that it is a Dalek. They are capable of exactly one thing, the thing they repeat over and over as their sole mantra and solution to all problems: "Exterminate." They are genocidal by _design_ and the Doctor knows better than anyone how utterly irrevocable that is. That is why he hates them so much; a being who has tried his best to commit his life to helping others despises most a being whose life is committed to destroying others.
@@OneBiasedOpinion Doctor may never have had a word like the Daleks or Cybermen just before the kill, but he deffinately killed plenty. In one act he wiped out TWO ENTIRE SPECIES but without a word.
Daleks are literally created without emotion other than anger and rage, have a superiority complex and believe they are pure and anything that is NOT a Dalek to be impure and must be exterminated... A living genocidal weapon bred only for war and ONLY war, they know nothing else and when confronted with being alone, terrified, and sad basically have an existential crisis because they're alone.
Fantastic scene, I think all will agree. Not only did Chris Ecclestone perform MAJESTICALLY, but the Dalek actually made me feel bad for it. Ha! How often can you say that about a killing machine?
The Random Mapper yeah this is the only time l felt sorry for the Doctor & the "Dalek" being the only one Left, it would drive you "insane" . This to me is one of the Best Dalek stories ever told, it had Depth & feeling . For a killing Machine someone thought outside the "Box " !
+The Random Mapper Agree and disagree. As powerful as this scene is, I feel like he portrayed the Doctor as a tad too maniacal, taking joy in torturing the Dalek. As great as he was as The Doctor, I think Ecclestone would have been even better cast as The Master.
+The Random Mapper For the most part I liked Simm's portrayal, but he did get a tad too cartoony at times. I guess I yearn for the Delgado/Ainley versions of The Master.
Metaltron would have been an interesting title. I think spoiling that the monster was a dalek helped built the anticipation, but if they hadn't, we'd have been right there feeling the same shock and fear as The Doctor in this moment.
I agree. To be fair, I didn't know what a Dalek was, but I can imagine how it could have been better for the viewers, when it was just called "The Gatherer" or something, and then "There is this mysterious alien", Doctor offers help and then this mechanical "Doctor? THE Doctor?", with the lights... I can imagine that this would have been a great "HOLY SHIT - DALEKS!"-Moment for all fans of the old show. I can say I had the experience in the end of Season 2, when it is revealed what was in the Void Ship^^
...and they showed it in the previews. Clearly what they wanted to do was have the audience soil its collective pants when that voice hit, but they stupidly fumbled it.
"WE'RE NOT THE SAME, I'M NOT--" he was going to say "I'm not a killer" and then he stopped. and he said "No wait, you're right" because he realized...he was a killer. He is a killer. And that terrifies me, right then.
Bit late in replying but to add on to that. The fact he said, "I know what you deserve! Exterminate!" means he also thinks he deserves death. Heartbreaking and terrifying. Fantastic scene.
Malus Phillips and to add further to that, what makes it more scary is how in that second he became the very thing he hated. He states later the reason a dalek would kill anything in front of it is because “it genuinely thinks they should die.” Basically stating that they believe that because something isn’t like it that something deserves extermination. Which is exactly what the Doctor said here but for the opposite reason, the very reason this dalek deserves death is because of what it is and what others that looked and talked like it did to those who didn’t look or talk like it.
Only just watching season 1. Have watched classic doctor who but never any since it came back. Have to agree Chris is a damn good doctor and these episodes have been really well written. Just wish it was still in serial format of 4 or 5 episodes for a story because as I enjoyed this Dalek episode couldn't help thinking there as so much more that could have been explored. But nonetheless really enjoyed this story.
I love most drs tbh christopher david matt even peter had amqzing moments i was excitwd for jodie but it was the writing lolol i havent seen much of original but from what ive seen every dr has theit gret moments
"I watched it happen. I MADE IT HAPPEN!" That line, and how Eccleston said it, combined with the knowledge of the Time War from the 50th Anniversary special, make that point in this clip really intense. DarthRushy I do agree...he did seem like the last "classic" Doctor.
Charles Lee You mean "despite" the 50th anniversary special, right? The special turned the war with the daleks into yet another iteration of the disposable pushover dalek villain that these episodes have slowly become over the course of NewWho, instead of the thing of terror implied by powerful scenes such as this one.
+Charles Lee He views Daleks as an infection, as cancer cells, too many white cells. If he could talk to an infection that he's eradicating, he'd have the same attitude. Bad analogy ?
It's scenes like these that make me personally believe The Doctor had literally just regenerated in Rose. He's FRESH off the Time War, literally just ended it a couple of months ago, and to see his greatest enemy, the one he betrayed his entire code for, standing there, alive, makes him incredibly angry.
@@sonicfan3230 Would explain him looking in the mirror while in Rose's house, examining his new body, flicking his ears back. It's a new body, new regeneration.
@@kamakazeyt Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the internal secondary rooms of his Tardis were still heavily damaged from the Time War considering the condition of the outer shell of the War Doctor's Tardis during the 50th. That might have been the first chance he had to actually look in a non shattered mirror since his regeneration.
@@ruthgar9753 Have they ever even exploded her? Likeeee, come onnn. Honestly, ughhh, I came here on an adventure… Hm, what we have? Hallways… just some slightly creepily dim, dark green lighting. 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ with some Kewl illusions…
Still a powerful scene, to this day. The modern Dalek is a soulless machine, that can only utter "exterminate." But this one, while unceasing in its mission to destroy all life, felt true and utter despair, but made the Doctor suffer with it in its anguish.
I think the current writing is great. It's important to preach political agendas using doctor who as on outlet otherwise children wouldn't think how we want them to.
Sitting at a lonely table for one, but I honestly think this is the best moment of New Who. The PTSD-ridden Doctor, faced with his worst enemy, his dark nature given full reign. Eccleston knocked this scene out of the park. Honestly, given how dark he gets with his laugh at 0:38 and his frankly terrifying retort at 3:19 , Eccleston would have made a brilliant Master as much as he made a great Doctor.
He'd feared the Daleks more than any other being. They were immune to reason, compassion, or insight - qualities the Doctor has in abundance. He knew death was a given the moment he realized what it was. When he realized it was a toothless predator, he smiled with RELIEF. He had the floor, and there was nothing the Dalek could do. And he had to savor the fact that when he advanced on it, it retreated in fear. Fear of him. a defenseless man whose only weapon was his reputation. And when the chance for some righteous indignation was allowed, he took it. He wanted the Dalek to feel what he and countless other beings felt when the Daleks came to town. And the uncomfortable part is that I am sure countless fans of the previous incarnations of the Doctor enjoyed it, too. Not later, but in the moment...I and others wanted some PAYBACK. Just a little sliver of it.
Eccleston was a KING. If it weren’t for his stellar performance that carried the revival of Who (along with the amazing writing from RTD), there is no guarantee we would’ve had the second series with David and so on.
It's the mad laughter of a man fresh out of the most gruesome war in the Universe. I will always adore and respect Chris for how he portrayed the doctor as both whimsical and yet very much so unhinged. A perfect depection of a man trying to hide his guilt and rage... Truly merits his nickname... *"The Oncoming Storm"*
The Daleks in my opinion represented a turning point in the history of scifi villains. Before this you had bug eyed monsters that all looked alike, or all looked human. That original 1963 episode Dalek changed it all, and little did the producers of the original Doctor Who know that they had created a legacy and changed the way Scifi was produced.
@@willybragg1534 Kaleds, not human. Back when the original series was made, just about every alien in scifi looked like a human. Simply because prosthetics at the time were either bulky or to expensive. Basic make up or simple characteristic separation was the better option.
@@porpus99 , if you want to get technical, we can settle for humanoid. Categorizing them as either human or humanoid made sense to me because it makes the program seem more realistic. It's totally conceivable that there could be a whole other world with a Earth like human species with the same level of good & evil like our civilization. A scenario of a civilization fighting like a sci fi World War II fascinate me.
2:44 Look at the right side of this mouth. His lip starts to twitch. This is what makes Christopher a fantastic Doctor! Look at all the tiny facial expressions!
Fastertrack I always look at actors tiny expressions. I find it difficult to get amerced in the show if the acting isent convincing. Chris does a perfect job of playing the Doctor.
Green Whovian Not always. You can really see that he is giving it his all. In an interview with Neil Briggs, during a rehearsal of this scene Neil was convinced he was really actually mad at him
The Dalek seems to have upgraded its vocabulary since Genesis of the Daleks. "PITY? I HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORD! IT IS NOT REGISTERED IN MY VOCABULARY BANK!"
@@carucath97 I grew up with the classic Doctor Who episodes, and my favorite is Tom Baker, but Eccleston is a close #2. The way he goes from disbelief to terror, then to dawning relief and joy when the Dalek can't kill him, then to gloating at a toothless enemy that is the sole survivor of all the wars of extermination...and realizing I felt the same way...that was a masterwork.
I remember watching this when it aired. I was 9. I was enjoying the show my mum had raved about coming back. But this episode transcended that enjoyment into a full blow obsession. Cheers RTD. I’m now 26 and couldn’t be more thrilled to hear he’s back as the show runner!
Dalek- "YOU MADE IT HAPPEN!" Ninth Doctor- "I had no choice.." I'm guessing we're going to find out if he's telling the truth in nine days- Roll on 50th anniversary!
Best dalek episode in the new series. Now they just seem to be cannon fodder. That sequence when the dalek roams the base gives you a sense just how deadly a dalek is
Hancockified Yeah, here the Dalek is shown for what it should be, A methodical calculating killing machine, ruthless and efficient. it hates but it's not quite rabidly unstable as they seemed to get later on. Not sure where it changed but recently they seem a bit to shouty, all bark and no bite raving about exterminating instead of actually exterminating anything.
After series 4, they just...got dumb :/ In series 1-4 they always murdered billions of people on screen whenever they appeared. Now, they just kinda stand around and are basically just storm troopers.
"I am alone in the universe." "Yep." "So are you. We are the same." I get chills every time. The entire scene's flawless. Also, I nominate that particular sequence as the permahermaphrodite motto.
One of my favoritre 9th Doctor moments. This is his darkest moment. Its debatable but the 9th Doctor is probably the darkest incarnation of the Doctor. He was more cynical, made fun of humans more, and just seemed tortured. We know why. He just came back from the time war, thinking he killed his own people. Torturing the defenseless Dalek, seemed something like The Master would do.
I agree that the 9th Doctor is a dark Doctor, but I'd also add the 7th Doctor to the list of darker regenerations. The 7th Doctor ended up being the chessmaster of the Doctors, manipulating people and events for his own purposes. Also, during the story "Sliver Nemesis" we got hints that there was far more to The Doctor than we'd seen. The Doctor looked frightened about what might be revealed. I think one of the reasons that the 9th Doctor is so tortured is because of guilt. Not just because of what he did during the Time War, but because he was given the opportunity to wipe out the daleks as the 4th Doctor. All he had to do was touch two wires together and the daleks would have been wiped out and there would have been no Time War, but he didn't do it. It's unlikely that Time Lords would have objected since they sent him there specifically to alter the development of the daleks because they foresaw what the daleks would become.
Agreed its debatable who is the darkest Doctor. People usually agree its either 6th, 7th,9th or the War Doctor. of Course the darkest Incarnation is his future self The Valeyard. What makes me wonder is what makes the Doctor turn to the Valeyard, then change to the much kinder incarnation as the Curator as seen in Day of the Doctor
I'd say 11, even though he's often seen as a happy-go-lucky kid he's completely comfortable with killing and doesn't care how many lives he ruins just as long as he doesn't have to look back, life means nothing to him anymore
Ron Villanova I don't think The Doctor turned into The Valeyard, but The Valeyard was as distillation of the darker aspects of The Doctor and given a separate form. It's possible that the reason he wants The Doctor's regeneration is that he has none of his own (the process of his creation resulted in a body that is not a true Time Lord body). What scares The Doctor about The Valeyard is that he sees what he could potentially turn into if he is not careful.
Actually, what screams most of all from that exchange is the Doctor's pain. Nine is the most damaged of the three post-Time War doctors. In many ways the War Doctor is the LEAST affected, since he never actually has to live in a moment where he believes he committed double-genocide. Nine has barely processed it. That's why he's sometimes manic and sometimes depressed. He ricochets around from one extreme to the other - going from his pacifist natural self to violent and rowdy when triggered. Ten is full of regret. He dwells on it. He mopes about things. He fears his own death most of all. He feels he failed his people and this results in his ruthless streak when those he loves are threatened or hurt. He counted the lost children of Gallifrey. Eleven is also terrified of his own mortality, somehow managing to forget not only his memories of the genocide but also his number of regenerations. He is perhaps one of the most vengeful and violent of the Doctors. You can't imagine him saying "Make the foundation of this society a man who never would." He is quite comfortable not giving things a chance to change their behaviour - basically, just run.
I legitimately get chills when Eccleston laughs out "Fantastic! Fantastic!" with such seething hatred and sarcasm towards the chained Dalek after realizing it can't shoot. Brilliant scene, Moffat needs to rewatch "Dalek" if he wants to make them scary again.
Dear Steven Moffat, THIS is how you make Daleks scary. Stop overusing them and make them dumber than a sheet of paper and give us back the ruthless killer machines they once were. With thankful regards, the fandom EDIT: r/agedlikemilk
CaruCath97 I didn't say he had good Dalek stories. He's had some amazing episodes in the RTD era, but since he took over, it's all gone steeply downhill. Thank god we're getting a new showrunner soon.
I thought Rose's first scene with the Dalek was quite good too. She went in there with no knowledge of who or what a Dalek is and she talked to it without fear or any ill intention towards it. Just talking to it as you would with a stranger that you don't know, curious, accepting, welcoming. That would have messed with the Dalek's mind and it did. Was a pretty interesting scene I thought.
Fast forward to Into The Dalek and the Daleks are bland, character-less drones who do nothing but screech "EXTERMINATE" while killing off characters we don't care about. Series 1 was the only Series were the Daleks were actually scary.
I agree, the entire show stopped being scary, even though I still like it, it has lost that "oh my god are they gonna make it"-feel the first few seasons (of the new series) had. Now it's more like "Yeah, yeah they'll make it no worries, they'll trick the daleks and the angels..." it kind of saddens me.
AmIOutOfTheSpotlight Well actually, I still really like the show (especially after S8). I was just pointing out how rubbish the Daleks have become in recent years.
Robert Lythgoe I still like it too, I just miss that feeling I had in the earlier seasons.. And I must apologise because I realise now that I might have misread your comment! :)
Illusionz Man They were servant robots in The Invasion from 1968. So I have no problem with that. The Cybermen were much, MUCH worse in the RTD era with their rubbish voices and pathetic "delete" catchphrase.
@@kylestubbs8867Doctor Who first ran from 1963 to 1989. Then there was a film in 1996(the film did not use the Daleks) and this following has been running since 2005. This is the 6th episode of the first season and the first time the audience sees the Daleks in this show.
Eccelston absolutely nailed it, just look at the flurry of emotions, fear to rage to crazed laughter. You can truly believe the Darleks ruined his life from just 1 minute.
"I watched it happen. I MADE IT HAPPEN!" This is the only time the Doctor celebrates being the one to wipe out 10 million Daleks in one blow. The writer of the episode mentioned how this confrontation is akin to a Holocaust survivor confronting a Nazi prison guard. All that rage, all that terror and need for retribution and blind hate from someone deeply scarred against the very thing that scarred him.
+Ionut Maris Heaven Sent was a very good episode. But there were flaws. Capaldi's acting was great and the writing was too but they never explained how you can hide clues in a place that constantly resets itself or why the wall he was punching wouldn't reset. Over all it was a good episode but one good episode doesn't make up for the majority of Moffats era and I feel that the fact that people direct me to that episode all the time demonstrates the over all quality of Moffats era. Although some episodes were good overall it wasn't great. (This is my opinion and I'm trying to be reasonable. Only saying incase some aggressive person comes along.) :)
But then why didn't the clothes reset to not being there? And the first time the clothes wouldn't have been there so he'd have had to walk about naked which isn't really a plot flaw but its not the nicest of thoughts. XD Also the Doctors skull should have disappeared when it was inside the castle. I don't want to stop your enjoyment if it and I still think its a great episode but these things niggle me. :P
rewatching is so many years after i first seen it still proves that to me Ecclestone was the best Doctor. And that scene was just brilliant. Not only one of few actually deep interactions with daleks beyond typical "exterminate", but the way Doctor shows so many different feelings in such a short time was amazing. Like when his smile dissappears before dalek says "so are you", like if he thought of it himself just before dalek voiced it.
Fourteen years on and this is still my favourite Dalek story, and favourite Doctor moment, the range of Christopher Eccleston is phenomenal and why Rob Shearman never wrote for Doctor Who on TV again is a mystery.
Pyromantic Pyromancer it’s kind of what I thought when I saw Rusty, speaking of which... anyone want a series dedicated to him, or a mini series showing what he was up to, besides exterminating the other Daleks, up until the point where they eventually met again?
The Last Survivor would have been a good title. As I don't even think the Daleks had been established as the Time Lords enemy in the Time War until this episode.
This may sound strange, but in many ways, 9 is the last classic Doctor. The last one to have that much older and wiser intellect of the Doctors. 10 just had a huge IQ(despite me loving him) and 11 was senile.
rtyrtyrty123123123 I think 12 is a lot smarter and icier than 11. 11 was basically a guy who left all his issues to the next guy. 12 is now tackling them.
I always regard Dalek as Eccleston's magnum opus as the Doctor. Seeing this already-damaged man come face-to-face with one of the very things that played a huge part in arguably the most traumatic event in his long life always makes for gripping viewing. The trauma, pain, terror, rage and contempt at discovering that one had survived, that what he did to end the Time War had potentially been all for naught is compounded by his gloating if not psychotic laugh at its powerlessness and solidified by sadistically torturing it without any hesitation. Love it 😍
I really wish Christopher Ecclestone had agreed to make more than one series. He is for my money the best Actor to play the doctor so far. I want to clarify that doesn't mean he was the best ever doctor in my opinion. Some of his stories weren't as well written as either Tenant or Smith's and most of this series acted as a re-introduction to Old Dr Who villains rather than a true continuation of the series. He laid the foundations for new who in this series but I wish he'd stayed and built on them a little more. I do like David Tenant and Matt Smith's doctors but there was a gritty edge to the ninth (now tenth) doctor that they lacked.
I agree. I hope Capaldi will be more along the lines of Eccleston than Tennant or Smith. But of course, I want him to be completely unique as well, as all Doctors should be.
How is this a re-introduction to Old Who villains? The only ones they brought back were the Daleks! If anything's a reintroduction to Old Who villains, it's Tennant's era! The Daleks, the Cybermen, the Sontarans, the Master...
DarthRushy Hi Darth, don't forget Christopher Ecclestone was the first NEW Doctor. In this one episode you see the Daleks AND the cybermen (well the head of one) and later on we have the Slitheen. I suspect we would have seen the others had he stayed on for a second series but the Bad Wolf Storyline occupied pretty much all Season One and that was based entirely around the Dlaeks and Rose. We did see the Autons (also known as the Nestene) in the very first episode, they were around in both Pertwee and Tom Baker's time so he did bring back a few of the old series enemies but mainly series one was a re-introduction to the Doctor, the Tardis and to the fact he travels with a human companion a lot of the time. I guess when you only have thirteen episodes you just can't squeeze in every single bad guy from a series that ran for 26 consecutive years in its first incarnation. Unless of course we get a REAL Tardis and make thirteen HUNDRED episodes but to do it we'd have to keep crossing our own Time Stream and I hear that's a no-no. The Tardis herself doesn't like it when you do that :)
The range of emotion he showed in this scene is so good. Went from fear, to anger, to the realization that he was just like the daleks. He went into denial, and then he snapped. Quite scary how unstable the doctor actually is
This doctor was so much more ruthless than all the others. He didn't negotiate with his enemies. 10 said no second chances. But what he meant was you get a chance at redemption even after being evil. And as you go on he becomes much more kind and forgiving. 12 even saves davros as a child. Because there must always be mercy. Its so awesome to see that progression of those scars. All that started with number 9. (In the new series of course) Ill always love Chris Eccleston for being such a unique doctor and bringing everything back. And portraying someone in a way he could never know it would develop. He's not my favorite Doctor, but his uniqueness means he's basically in his own running.
Funny how Eccleston goes to fear, then pride and anger and when the Dalek asks if it destroyed his race he has sadness. I wish he was in more seasons.
Satoshi Katsumoto wish he done series 2 and 3
Then Tennant could have done. 4, 5 and 6
thats good though wanting more is better than wanting less
I wish he appeared on the day of the doctor. War Doctor was good, but Eccleston would do great. Just imagine...
Eccleston was the BEST Doctor. He deserved many more seasons.
Just started Dr Who recently. I'd always assumed Daleks were some kind of joke based on only knowing their appearance. Seeing the Doctor be downright terrified and then hateful of one was one of the most effective establishments of a threat I think I've ever seen.
Somewhere around 2006 scrolling through channels I came across that episode which was my first contact with Doctor Who. The episode was already half way through and my only reaction was laugh, as I saw this over-sized industrial vacuum cleaner killing people with x-ray laser shooting from flimsy metal stick. I was quite taken aback though when Dalek opened its casing and presented me with this disgusting, but sad looking mutant. I wasn't hooked yet, but I kept that memory for a long time until I finally gave series a chance few years later. Recently, I caught up with series 10 i 11 and I'm still amazed how they manage to make cheesy looking monsters (like Daleks or 1st gen Cyberman) absolutely terrifying.
@@DoubleU555 sadly after series 10 the show went downhill, you should watch classic who and see Doctors 1-7.
@@DoubleU555 My favorites are Doctors 9, 10, and 11 (this is 9). After that I didn’t like the writing much. Even during 11, my favorite, things started going downhill. (Not his fault, the writers).
@@lisbethtrisdelle350 I'm only two seasons into the 12th doctor right now, but those two seasons have been some of my favorite, and 12th is maybe my favorite version of The Doctor yet.
The Daleks have been diluted as a threat, but I will say that up through part of 12's tenure, where I stopped watching, for reasons not tied to quality, the Doctors are still good. The villains have their peaks, but 9 through 12? I still can't pick.
I loved how dark the ninth doctor became when he saw a dalek
There is a reason the Daleks never put an end to The Doctor. I suspect it's Admiration. Seeing what they admire, this doesn't paint him in the best light.
Salnax maybe they didn't before because they knew he had to save kid davros as a child with his 12th regeneration now maybe they will try to kill him
aerosky theory sounds nice but you have to remember that not only was that a different writer who made that cannon the episode came out decades after the daleks and davros was introduced and so theres no way that would be true, and thats the problem when trying to change canon. But nice theory
To be fair, Daleks always bring the worst out of The Doctor, no matter which version it is.
@Hellblazer (lethal protector) Unfortunately, new writers are not that smart. But still very good theory.
Absolutely LOVE the Doctor saying “I had no choice” when the Dalek asks him if he really wiped them all out. The Daleks are about as close to irredeemably evil as you can get, and the Doctor, even at his darkest and most hateful, only exterminated them as an absolute last resort.
and he’s still sad about it. wish eccelston got more time as 9, or maybe at least came back for the 50th. he was great.
@@sub-zero5433frrrr
@@sub-zero5433 Empathy makes any extinction a tragedy, especially if done by your own hand, and no matter how "evil" they were
It's like a faint hope that maybe they could have turned out okay, but instead the universe grows dimmer with each disappearing species
@@LoLaSnI remember the fourth doctor had the chance to prevent the Daleks from ever existing beyond Skaro and he couldn’t bring himself to do it despite knowing some of what they would grow to do.
...huh? 'Last resort', ghis choice
Daleks themselves aren't 'evil' their doings are
2005’s ‘Dalek’ is in my opinion the single greatest depiction of these iconic villains in Doctor Who’s entire 59 year history. Of course, they’ve had many great stories over the years, but a lone Dalek, able to cause such destruction and threaten all human life on the planet…Terrifying. An absolute masterpiece of a story! Massive pat on the back deserved for writer Robert Shearman.
Yea I believe 9/10 doctors did Daley the best l like they were enemy number 1 while 11 was Weeping angels
It was a great introduction for the Daleks in New Who.
I think Jubilee is better
4th doctor's Genesis of the Daleks is still my favorite and the best Old Who Dalek adventure. I still think it's the best ever
Absolutely
Strange isn't it? When this aired in 2005, the episode was set in the future, in 2012. Now it's in the past.
Timey-wimey.
Mind blowing really. As the doctor said in this episode:
"The stuff of nightmares reduced to an exhibit. I'm getting old!"
Now it's even more in the past.
Now *YOU’RE* even more in the past.
You know Fear Her also did the same thing
"I watched it happen! I MADE IT HAPPEN!"
"You destroyed us!"
That sudden change from happy to sad. That's why I loved Christopher's doctor, those moments like these when a dalek could just talk to the doctor
If he hadn't brought A-game like that, the Dr Who revival would've been a bust.
@@kangus_lmao LOL
Hey yo, love your username. Asda.
1k like... just saying
I love this scene because it is the moment that the two absolute enemies (Time Lord (The Doctor) and Dalek), who were last of their own races, which were destroyed by the war between themselves. And there where are? The only two survivors from races that fight with each other.
Eccelston acted the hell out of this scene.
Oh
AYY.
Actually, to an actor that sounds like a negative note. I assume you mean he did well though
Lolllllll you think this is good acting hahaha
@@gothelvis3541 Acting is subjective, mate.
The way Christopher is in this episode is just perfect. He still hasn't fully recovered from the war. All the hatred burning in him is something that I love about his performance. I would love to see more of this side
i hate your pfp
He hasn't even slightly recovered from the war. He's pure PTSD.
Am I wrong is Eccleston's Doctor immediately after the War Doctor? Because if thats so, then I dont think he's even begun to recover. I don't think we know how much time has passed since John Hurt became Eccleston but I think its fair to say its still recent
@@NTWoo95 The first episode of NuWho is immediately post-regeneration. That's why he's doing things like staring at himself in the mirror and testing whether he can still do card tricks.
@@pareidolist RTD said thats not true. The Ninth Doctor had 100 years under his belt before he met Rose.
"What's the nearest town?"
"Salt Lake City"
"Population?"
"One million"
"All dead."
The thought that a single Dalek could kill one million people is what truly made them scary
Which episode was it pls ?
@@yanngerard2566 Dalek, series 1 episode 6
And that would be the numbers when it isn’t trying
One million is nothing to a Dalek. In the scene, where the Cult of Skaro meet with the Cybermen,
ua-cam.com/video/UCsXO7r6-z4/v-deo.html after 3:10 the cybermen just try to intimidate the four daleks, that they have an army of five millions of cybermen. The answer stated, that one Dalek should be more than enough to take care of them.
@@Senok13
Love that scene.
"You would destroy the Cybermen with 4 Daleks?"
"We would destroy the Cybermen with 1 Dalek. You are superior in only one respect."
"What is that?"
"You are superior at dying."
The Doctor really showed his dark side in this episode.
Some of the later doctors did have dark sides. Matt Smith did, despite his cheery chirpiness.
Billy Raymond If you think this is dark, try watching the 7th Doctor
Time war???
Bipolar Bear Eh, the Time War pails in comparison honestly
Yay Dalek=kaled
Before I watched this scene, I didn't know what a Dalek was. Chris' acting here made it immediately clear to me that they were truly terrifying-- the first creatures I'd seen The Doctor run from. And then, of course, he shows us that The Doctor can be just as terrifying, too-- and not only because he's frankly intimidating when he shouts. It's because he doesn't hesitate to torture it. Not for a second.
It is for showing us that guilty, blood-soaked conscience, that underlying, ancient anger, that impulsive rage at the Universe that Chris surely portrayed one of the most fascinating incarnations of The Doctor.
I been down that road
giligara30492 i was the same way.
giligara30492 Potent
It's like in just one scene new viewers like myself understood how scary The Doctor and the Daleks truly are. For me for The Doctor, it's his few lines before he himself says exterminate and the expressions on his face to show that when facing the Daleks, how much of his sanity is gone from the Time War.
giligara30492 And to think this was the first time we saw the Daleks since their last appearance during the Sylvester McCoy era in the 80's.
Am I the only one finding the Dalek looking down at his gunstalk to be hilarious?
Tanall And the fact that he raised it.
well the doctor laughed :P
KelixKatz Nine laughing was rather terrifying.
"...THIS DOES NOT US-U-A-LY HAP-PEN."
I found it funny too
This just proves that Eccelston had the acting chops to be capable of going for 10 seasons, but we would've all been happy with at least 1 more
This scene is so well-done in hindsight when you realise that the Dalek was waiting for the touch of a time-traveller to revive it. It tries to provoke the Doctor and Rose both in different ways; with Rose it made her feel sorry for it, but with the Doctor it goaded him. It isn't much like a Dalek to call someone a coward, or tell them to keep back. Or to lament that it's alone. And it nearly worked, too, the Doctor walked right up to it and almost touched it before he thought better of it. The Daleks may not have emotions but they sure do know how to exploit the emotional weaknesses of their enemies when necessary.
Well they are intelligent and cunning. They're not stupid.
The Doctor knew pretty well that the Daleks could use "time travel radiation stuff" as a source of energy at the very least. He got close for effect, presumably, but he was careful not to touch him.
@@dynastyconflate3379 When the Dalek said "We are the same", the doctor was running so much on instinct that he actually almost accidently touched it. But that is when he probably realised what the dalek was looking for and decided to put an end to it.
@LordDaret honestly that works as a bit of neat foreshadowing, the Doctor, pissed as he is, won't touch a Dalek even though he has in the past, fans would be thinking why not touch this defeated and helpless Dalek until Rose puts her palm on it
I honestly think that the Dalek wasn’t even insulting the Doctor…I think it was insulting themself…
Considering Daleks can't show emotion they are pretty good at making me feel sympathy for them
Me too. When The Dalek Say: YOU LIAR (OR YOU LIE)... Almost make me feel sorry...
I think they can, but only when acting independent, which is only when there are no orders,
TheGreenTaco999 No, they can show emotion most of the time. Just things like anger and hatred. They can't be sad, or happy, or show remorse. They only do that when broken, like this one, or Rusty.
Basically "Cunning".
Also the Dalek roaming Piccadilly shouting "Exterminate" until Bobbys arrested the bloke inside.
3:14 I wonder how many centuries the Doctor has been wanting to say "Exterminate!" back to a Dalek.
Spidey View What about since the Classic Doctors?
Spidey View yea, the first season features the 9th reincarnation of the doctor
MLG Anonymous cuz this is not the original series
Spidey View No offense, but you know that there were 8 previous incarnations before the War Doctor, right? The Doctor had been out there seeing the universe and saving lives long before the Time War, and he met the Daleks as far back as his first incarnation. (William Hartnell.) He was around 400 or so then, and while the Doctor said he was 900 in the first few seasons of the new series, he already said he was 950 during his Seventh incarnation, and there was also a 400 year gap during the Time War. In other words, the Doctor lies about his age, (First Rule: The Doctor Lies) so he'd been fighting the Daleks on and off for at least 500 years before the Time War broke out. (And if you read or listen to the Eight Doctor audios, then it could be easily more than that, as he once spent several hundred years stranded on another planet in one story.)
+Spidey View (SpideyViewer) Yeah, no. He hated them by the time Doctor #2 came onto the show. How do I know that? In his one and only surviving episode of a Dalek story (which was a 7 parter) he outright called the humans working with them "idiots". 4 almost committed genocide and nearly wiped them all out. And now you know how The Time War started. 7 actually successfully convinced one to commit suicide. He hated them LONG before the Time War.
Fantastic actor... at 2:46 just as the Dalek finishes saying "so are you" you can see the Doctor's face begin to twitch as the anger and regret come pouring back.
SGTBizarro too right.
SGTBizarro remember he is fresh off john hurt who destroyed galafray ecclston is hurts next regeneration so he is so full of rage that it is sad
SGTBizarro scenes like this make me wish we saw more of Eccleston as the Ninth Doctor, as a Tenth Doctor fan
Smokey 420 really?
@Smokey 420 no, the doctor tried to argue hes not a killer, but he just blasted 10million daleks plus the timelords out of the sky
The Last Dalek vs The Last Timelord, such a powerful scene.
Strike him down. He deserves it. 👏
The “and the coward survived” line is honestly a very underrated line.
Under the surface it sounds like a dig at the Doctor. The man who always runs, the man who fights without a weapon, the coward survived. But honestly I think it was talking about itself.
Metaltron ran away from the time war when it was ending. It got scared and sent itself hurtling into space and time to survive. It fled out of fear and now it’s the last of its kind. It was a coward and it survived.
Honestly… kinda makes me feel a little sorry for it despite what it is.
Such a brilliant scene, two war veterans on opposing sides who have both done terrible things and have more in common than either of them would like to admit. It gives not only Chris Eccelston a great chance to show his acting range but it also gave Nicholas Briggs the chance to deliver a great first impression as the new voice of the Daleks
You feel bad for him because you realize that not only does he not understand, but he is in many ways blameless. A grunt that might have never seen battle, bred to follow orders and now utterly terrified and confined to a world of agony and isolation...and when he reaches his most pathetic moment he reaches out to his mortal enemy for a fleeting second of comfort and is denied, left to continue his pain. Abandoned and forgotten over and over again...but certainly not beyond suffering.
I feel so bad for the damn dustbin
I agree, I know it is a dalek, but it appears to have "changed its stripes" (the personality changed), hence I feel sorry for it. It was only doing what it was told to do, and would continue to do that, as didn't know any difference.
The problem is that it is a Dalek. They are capable of exactly one thing, the thing they repeat over and over as their sole mantra and solution to all problems: "Exterminate." They are genocidal by _design_ and the Doctor knows better than anyone how utterly irrevocable that is. That is why he hates them so much; a being who has tried his best to commit his life to helping others despises most a being whose life is committed to destroying others.
@@OneBiasedOpinion Doctor may never have had a word like the Daleks or Cybermen just before the kill, but he deffinately killed plenty. In one act he wiped out TWO ENTIRE SPECIES but without a word.
Daleks are literally created without emotion other than anger and rage, have a superiority complex and believe they are pure and anything that is NOT a Dalek to be impure and must be exterminated... A living genocidal weapon bred only for war and ONLY war, they know nothing else and when confronted with being alone, terrified, and sad basically have an existential crisis because they're alone.
Fantastic scene, I think all will agree. Not only did Chris Ecclestone perform MAJESTICALLY, but the Dalek actually made me feel bad for it. Ha! How often can you say that about a killing machine?
This is my absolute favourite moment of Eccleston's performance as The Doctor.
The Random Mapper yeah this is the only time l felt sorry for the Doctor & the "Dalek" being the only one Left, it would drive you "insane" . This to me is one of the Best Dalek stories ever told, it had Depth & feeling . For a killing Machine someone thought outside the "Box " !
+The Random Mapper Agree and disagree. As powerful as this scene is, I feel like he portrayed the Doctor as a tad too maniacal, taking joy in torturing the Dalek. As great as he was as The Doctor, I think Ecclestone would have been even better cast as The Master.
Daniel Ryan That would have been so awesome; Ecclestone's menace would have been sooo much better than Simm's moronic laughter
+The Random Mapper For the most part I liked Simm's portrayal, but he did get a tad too cartoony at times. I guess I yearn for the Delgado/Ainley versions of The Master.
I really wish the episode wasn’t titled “Dalek,” that way it would’ve been such a surprise to see the Daleks return in this new series.
Metaltron would have been an interesting title. I think spoiling that the monster was a dalek helped built the anticipation, but if they hadn't, we'd have been right there feeling the same shock and fear as The Doctor in this moment.
I agree. To be fair, I didn't know what a Dalek was, but I can imagine how it could have been better for the viewers, when it was just called "The Gatherer" or something, and then "There is this mysterious alien", Doctor offers help and then this mechanical "Doctor? THE Doctor?", with the lights... I can imagine that this would have been a great "HOLY SHIT - DALEKS!"-Moment for all fans of the old show.
I can say I had the experience in the end of Season 2, when it is revealed what was in the Void Ship^^
Personally, I’d have gone with either “The last in the universe” or “Alone in the universe”.
@@defgirzawa7583 Funnily enough, I'd both hoped for and expected Daleks in the Void Ship. What I didn't see coming were the cybermen.
...and they showed it in the previews. Clearly what they wanted to do was have the audience soil its collective pants when that voice hit, but they stupidly fumbled it.
"And the coward survived."
This Dalek coming back with sick burns.
"WE'RE NOT THE SAME, I'M NOT--" he was going to say "I'm not a killer" and then he stopped. and he said "No wait, you're right" because he realized...he was a killer. He is a killer. And that terrifies me, right then.
Bit late in replying but to add on to that. The fact he said, "I know what you deserve! Exterminate!" means he also thinks he deserves death. Heartbreaking and terrifying. Fantastic scene.
Carolyn Joyce a
I wish this doctor knew that everyone on Galifrey survived...
@@philiptucker6119 I don't.
Malus Phillips and to add further to that, what makes it more scary is how in that second he became the very thing he hated.
He states later the reason a dalek would kill anything in front of it is because “it genuinely thinks they should die.” Basically stating that they believe that because something isn’t like it that something deserves extermination.
Which is exactly what the Doctor said here but for the opposite reason, the very reason this dalek deserves death is because of what it is and what others that looked and talked like it did to those who didn’t look or talk like it.
Proof right here that Season 1 is underated, just because it's not David Tennant. Christopher Eccleston is also a really good Doctor.
Christopher Eccleston is, and always will be, THE Doctor to me. The original article, you might say.
Only just watching season 1. Have watched classic doctor who but never any since it came back. Have to agree Chris is a damn good doctor and these episodes have been really well written. Just wish it was still in serial format of 4 or 5 episodes for a story because as I enjoyed this Dalek episode couldn't help thinking there as so much more that could have been explored. But nonetheless really enjoyed this story.
I love most drs tbh christopher david matt even peter had amqzing moments i was excitwd for jodie but it was the writing lolol i havent seen much of original but from what ive seen every dr has theit gret moments
"I watched it happen. I MADE IT HAPPEN!"
That line, and how Eccleston said it, combined with the knowledge of the Time War from the 50th Anniversary special, make that point in this clip really intense.
DarthRushy I do agree...he did seem like the last "classic" Doctor.
Charles Lee You mean "despite" the 50th anniversary special, right? The special turned the war with the daleks into yet another iteration of the disposable pushover dalek villain that these episodes have slowly become over the course of NewWho, instead of the thing of terror implied by powerful scenes such as this one.
+Charles Lee He views Daleks as an infection, as cancer cells, too many white cells. If he could talk to an infection that he's eradicating, he'd have the same attitude.
Bad analogy ?
what are you talking about Doctor Who ended after The End of Time there's no 50th anniversary
***** no doctor who ended after the end of time season 4 there are no other seasons
+The Doctor yeah, I agree...that episode was terrible enough to kill the series.
Luckily it kept going though :)
It's scenes like these that make me personally believe The Doctor had literally just regenerated in Rose. He's FRESH off the Time War, literally just ended it a couple of months ago, and to see his greatest enemy, the one he betrayed his entire code for, standing there, alive, makes him incredibly angry.
So practically as soon as he regenerates from War in DoTD, he lands in 2005 London and meets Rose?
@@sonicfan3230 yeah probably.
@@sonicfan3230 Would explain him looking in the mirror while in Rose's house, examining his new body, flicking his ears back. It's a new body, new regeneration.
@@kamakazeyt Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the internal secondary rooms of his Tardis were still heavily damaged from the Time War considering the condition of the outer shell of the War Doctor's Tardis during the 50th. That might have been the first chance he had to actually look in a non shattered mirror since his regeneration.
@@ruthgar9753 Have they ever even exploded her? Likeeee, come onnn. Honestly, ughhh, I came here on an adventure… Hm, what we have? Hallways… just some slightly creepily dim, dark green lighting. 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ with some Kewl illusions…
Still a powerful scene, to this day. The modern Dalek is a soulless machine, that can only utter "exterminate." But this one, while unceasing in its mission to destroy all life, felt true and utter despair, but made the Doctor suffer with it in its anguish.
Man, I miss this kind of writing
paigestation unfortunately this is the only episode Robert Shearman wrote.
paigestation You write for who was and who is now in the TARDIS not how you want
I think the current writing is great. It's important to preach political agendas using doctor who as on outlet otherwise children wouldn't think how we want them to.
paigestation ikr
Blue Bowser Don't act like you wouldn't do the same. Both sides want to control us.
The TRUE War Doctor.
+McCaffery He is so much like the war doctor, because this was soon after his regeneration (He even wears the same jacket)
+pamusicman2 he made an appearance in the 50th anniversary
One last thought for a War Doctor 'what-if' episode, something along the lines of Turn Left:
No more.
Gallifrey falls.
I agree. It makes sense why the Tenth Doctor wasn't big on second chances during his first season.
+McCaffery If John Hurt was the TRUE War Doctor, then Eccleston must have been the PTSD Doctor
0:40 The closest thing to a Dalek having an "Oh, shit" face.
Literally the best sentence I've ever heard.
Like: UMM, YOU DIDNT SEE THAT!
Now I hear the eye engine saying that when it goes up
Sitting at a lonely table for one, but I honestly think this is the best moment of New Who. The PTSD-ridden Doctor, faced with his worst enemy, his dark nature given full reign. Eccleston knocked this scene out of the park. Honestly, given how dark he gets with his laugh at 0:38 and his frankly terrifying retort at 3:19 , Eccleston would have made a brilliant Master as much as he made a great Doctor.
He'd feared the Daleks more than any other being. They were immune to reason, compassion, or insight - qualities the Doctor has in abundance. He knew death was a given the moment he realized what it was. When he realized it was a toothless predator, he smiled with RELIEF. He had the floor, and there was nothing the Dalek could do. And he had to savor the fact that when he advanced on it, it retreated in fear. Fear of him. a defenseless man whose only weapon was his reputation.
And when the chance for some righteous indignation was allowed, he took it. He wanted the Dalek to feel what he and countless other beings felt when the Daleks came to town. And the uncomfortable part is that I am sure countless fans of the previous incarnations of the Doctor enjoyed it, too. Not later, but in the moment...I and others wanted some PAYBACK. Just a little sliver of it.
I've been at that table since 2005.
Eccleston was a KING. If it weren’t for his stellar performance that carried the revival of Who (along with the amazing writing from RTD), there is no guarantee we would’ve had the second series with David and so on.
Too bad Moffat killed the series with shit writing :(
The torturer is actually just an electrician.
0:38 - 0:42 The Doctor's evil laugh is truly terrifying.
EmptyMan000 not just terrifying is FANTASTIC.
Most terrifying thing ever
It's the mad laughter of a man fresh out of the most gruesome war in the Universe.
I will always adore and respect Chris for how he portrayed the doctor as both whimsical and yet very much so unhinged. A perfect depection of a man trying to hide his guilt and rage... Truly merits his nickname... *"The Oncoming Storm"*
EmptyMan000 even the Master would be rattled by that laughter.
EmptyMan000
Scary ?? I found it funny
The Daleks in my opinion represented a turning point in the history of scifi villains. Before this you had bug eyed monsters that all looked alike, or all looked human. That original 1963 episode Dalek changed it all, and little did the producers of the original Doctor Who know that they had created a legacy and changed the way Scifi was produced.
The Daleks were originally human though.
@@willybragg1534 Kaleds, not human. Back when the original series was made, just about every alien in scifi looked like a human. Simply because prosthetics at the time were either bulky or to expensive. Basic make up or simple characteristic separation was the better option.
@@porpus99 , if you want to get technical, we can settle for humanoid. Categorizing them as either human or humanoid made sense to me because it makes the program seem more realistic. It's totally conceivable that there could be a whole other world with a Earth like human species with the same level of good & evil like our civilization. A scenario of a civilization fighting like a sci fi World War II fascinate me.
This is still by far the best Dalek episode of New-Who.
Definitely, Back when the Doctor was a total badass
Either this or bad wolf. Tough call.
I like how it recoiled in fear. The Doctor- empty handed- charged it. And it recoiled. Pulled away.
2:44 Look at the right side of this mouth. His lip starts to twitch. This is what makes Christopher a fantastic Doctor! Look at all the tiny facial expressions!
Sonicbolt Didn't notice till you mentioned. Observant
Fastertrack I always look at actors tiny expressions. I find it difficult to get amerced in the show if the acting isent convincing. Chris does a perfect job of playing the Doctor.
J Walker "WE'RE NOT THE SAME! I'M NOT...."
Green Whovian Not always. You can really see that he is giving it his all. In an interview with Neil Briggs, during a rehearsal of this scene Neil was convinced he was really actually mad at him
It was a nice little touch. Eccleston wasn't my favorite Doctor, but I think he was criminally underrated.
The Dalek seems to have upgraded its vocabulary since Genesis of the Daleks.
"PITY? I HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORD! IT IS NOT REGISTERED IN MY VOCABULARY BANK!"
That actually makes sense when you remember that Davros helped in a lot of the Time War.
The most underated doctor. He made new who possible
2:36
The greatest killing machine is expressing sadness for the first time
To this day it still blows my mind that a single Dalek smoked an entire city of over 1M people.
Yeah, I had remorse when he asked for pity
If you haven't watched this, you cannot understand the Doctor. This was one of the most important story points.
"What I did, I did with no choice. I did it in the name of peace and serenity."
+Valpas Kankaristo But not in the name of The Doctor.
* sanity
Chris ecelstone was actually terrified by Nick brigs's dalek voice when it first boomed across
Well this Dalek is less screechy than others
@@carucath97 I grew up with the classic Doctor Who episodes, and my favorite is Tom Baker, but Eccleston is a close #2. The way he goes from disbelief to terror, then to dawning relief and joy when the Dalek can't kill him, then to gloating at a toothless enemy that is the sole survivor of all the wars of extermination...and realizing I felt the same way...that was a masterwork.
"I watched it happen, I MADE IT HAPPEN"
I remember watching this when it aired. I was 9. I was enjoying the show my mum had raved about coming back. But this episode transcended that enjoyment into a full blow obsession.
Cheers RTD. I’m now 26 and couldn’t be more thrilled to hear he’s back as the show runner!
I love how you can see the Dalek screaming "have pity!" as referencing when Davros did the same thing back with the original Daleks.
Dalek- "YOU MADE IT HAPPEN!"
Ninth Doctor- "I had no choice.."
I'm guessing we're going to find out if he's telling the truth in nine days- Roll on 50th anniversary!
I find this comment hilarious as he actually did... and he took it ;D
Best dalek episode in the new series. Now they just seem to be cannon fodder. That sequence when the dalek roams the base gives you a sense just how deadly a dalek is
Hancockified Yeah, here the Dalek is shown for what it should be, A methodical calculating killing machine, ruthless and efficient. it hates but it's not quite rabidly unstable as they seemed to get later on.
Not sure where it changed but recently they seem a bit to shouty, all bark and no bite raving about exterminating instead of actually exterminating anything.
After series 4, they just...got dumb :/ In series 1-4 they always murdered billions of people on screen whenever they appeared. Now, they just kinda stand around and are basically just storm troopers.
Hancockified and the last good dalek story
0:27
See? This is how you make us fear Daleks. By making the Doctor fear them.
The Lone Dalek in this one episode was scarier than all the Daleks in every Moffat Era Dalek story.
Tennant wasn't the only one that could go that dark. Brilliant from Ecclestone 🙌
But Eccleston's intensity has never been paired. And that's why he is my fave incarnation.
"I am alone in the universe."
"Yep."
"So are you. We are the same."
I get chills every time. The entire scene's flawless. Also, I nominate that particular sequence as the permahermaphrodite motto.
One of my favoritre 9th Doctor moments. This is his darkest moment. Its debatable but the 9th Doctor is probably the darkest incarnation of the Doctor. He was more cynical, made fun of humans more, and just seemed tortured. We know why. He just came back from the time war, thinking he killed his own people. Torturing the defenseless Dalek, seemed something like The Master would do.
I agree that the 9th Doctor is a dark Doctor, but I'd also add the 7th Doctor to the list of darker regenerations. The 7th Doctor ended up being the chessmaster of the Doctors, manipulating people and events for his own purposes. Also, during the story "Sliver Nemesis" we got hints that there was far more to The Doctor than we'd seen. The Doctor looked frightened about what might be revealed.
I think one of the reasons that the 9th Doctor is so tortured is because of guilt. Not just because of what he did during the Time War, but because he was given the opportunity to wipe out the daleks as the 4th Doctor. All he had to do was touch two wires together and the daleks would have been wiped out and there would have been no Time War, but he didn't do it. It's unlikely that Time Lords would have objected since they sent him there specifically to alter the development of the daleks because they foresaw what the daleks would become.
Agreed its debatable who is the darkest Doctor. People usually agree its either 6th, 7th,9th or the War Doctor. of Course the darkest Incarnation is his future self The Valeyard. What makes me wonder is what makes the Doctor turn to the Valeyard, then change to the much kinder incarnation as the Curator as seen in Day of the Doctor
I'd say 11, even though he's often seen as a happy-go-lucky kid he's completely comfortable with killing and doesn't care how many lives he ruins just as long as he doesn't have to look back, life means nothing to him anymore
Ron Villanova
I don't think The Doctor turned into The Valeyard, but The Valeyard was as distillation of the darker aspects of The Doctor and given a separate form. It's possible that the reason he wants The Doctor's regeneration is that he has none of his own (the process of his creation resulted in a body that is not a true Time Lord body). What scares The Doctor about The Valeyard is that he sees what he could potentially turn into if he is not careful.
Actually, what screams most of all from that exchange is the Doctor's pain. Nine is the most damaged of the three post-Time War doctors. In many ways the War Doctor is the LEAST affected, since he never actually has to live in a moment where he believes he committed double-genocide.
Nine has barely processed it. That's why he's sometimes manic and sometimes depressed. He ricochets around from one extreme to the other - going from his pacifist natural self to violent and rowdy when triggered.
Ten is full of regret. He dwells on it. He mopes about things. He fears his own death most of all. He feels he failed his people and this results in his ruthless streak when those he loves are threatened or hurt. He counted the lost children of Gallifrey.
Eleven is also terrified of his own mortality, somehow managing to forget not only his memories of the genocide but also his number of regenerations. He is perhaps one of the most vengeful and violent of the Doctors. You can't imagine him saying "Make the foundation of this society a man who never would." He is quite comfortable not giving things a chance to change their behaviour - basically, just run.
I legitimately get chills when Eccleston laughs out "Fantastic! Fantastic!" with such seething hatred and sarcasm towards the chained Dalek after realizing it can't shoot. Brilliant scene, Moffat needs to rewatch "Dalek" if he wants to make them scary again.
Even when Christopher Eccleston hates working on something, he still gives it his all.
My lad just successfully acted the entire emotional spectrum in one scene. Best Doctor, hands down.
Back when the Daleks were amazing and terrifying take note Moffat
+joe y what about stolen earth?
+joe y they were good in doomsday
+joe y what about journeys end
***** well that is in their creators control room
+joe y yes that episode
Dear Steven Moffat, THIS is how you make Daleks scary. Stop overusing them and make them dumber than a sheet of paper and give us back the ruthless killer machines they once were.
With thankful regards, the fandom
EDIT: r/agedlikemilk
Moffat's on his last season 💜
Moffat's had a few good episodes but only a few
He hasn't had any good Dalek stories, Into the Dalek was OK but it felt like a ripoff of this episode (Victory and Asylum were awful though)
CaruCath97 I didn't say he had good Dalek stories. He's had some amazing episodes in the RTD era, but since he took over, it's all gone steeply downhill. Thank god we're getting a new showrunner soon.
I know, I just mentioned the Daleks because this is a Dalek video ;P - I'm being cautiously optimistic about Chibnall atm
2:47 His upper lip twitches in rage; damn that is some good acting. You can't fake a twitch like that, that had to be felt.
"I demand orders!"
Asserting to be a subordinate. That's honestly quite telling of the Dalek's mentality.
This and the "you would have made a good Dalek" scene shows Eccelston as one of the best ever Doctors. So very well acted.
Perhaps the best acting in the entirety of the show is here.
I thought Rose's first scene with the Dalek was quite good too. She went in there with no knowledge of who or what a Dalek is and she talked to it without fear or any ill intention towards it. Just talking to it as you would with a stranger that you don't know, curious, accepting, welcoming. That would have messed with the Dalek's mind and it did. Was a pretty interesting scene I thought.
If you ask me, _this_ should be how they hold auditions for later “regenerations” of the Doctor. Have applicants reenact this scene.
The ninth Doctor was full of hatred and pain.
The War Doctor certainly didn't do 9 any favors
Ladies & Gentlemen your host for tonight's roasting of a Dalek, the Ninth Doctor!
The only time in entire Dalek TV history you'll feel even slightly sorry for a Dalek.
Christopher Eccleston is a very underrated Doctor, his performance in this scene is really impressive
Fast forward to Into The Dalek and the Daleks are bland, character-less drones who do nothing but screech "EXTERMINATE" while killing off characters we don't care about.
Series 1 was the only Series were the Daleks were actually scary.
I agree, the entire show stopped being scary, even though I still like it, it has lost that "oh my god are they gonna make it"-feel the first few seasons (of the new series) had. Now it's more like "Yeah, yeah they'll make it no worries, they'll trick the daleks and the angels..." it kind of saddens me.
AmIOutOfTheSpotlight Well actually, I still really like the show (especially after S8). I was just pointing out how rubbish the Daleks have become in recent years.
Robert Lythgoe I still like it too, I just miss that feeling I had in the earlier seasons.. And I must apologise because I realise now that I might have misread your comment! :)
Cryer24597 Yeah, I was just referring to modern who. The Daleks were scariest in the 60's.
Illusionz Man They were servant robots in The Invasion from 1968. So I have no problem with that. The Cybermen were much, MUCH worse in the RTD era with their rubbish voices and pathetic "delete" catchphrase.
christopher eccleston will forever be my doctor.
0:14 Boy, that escalated quickly
Ironic, isn't it? The first Dalek we see on the show, is the most human
To be fair - I I don't know why, but I really thought the Dalek would join the Doctor xD
What do you mean “first Dalek we see on the show”? Were all earlier appearances in movies?
@@kylestubbs8867Doctor Who first ran from 1963 to 1989. Then there was a film in 1996(the film did not use the Daleks) and this following has been running since 2005. This is the 6th episode of the first season and the first time the audience sees the Daleks in this show.
Eccelston absolutely nailed it, just look at the flurry of emotions, fear to rage to crazed laughter. You can truly believe the Darleks ruined his life from just 1 minute.
"I watched it happen. I MADE IT HAPPEN!" This is the only time the Doctor celebrates being the one to wipe out 10 million Daleks in one blow.
The writer of the episode mentioned how this confrontation is akin to a Holocaust survivor confronting a Nazi prison guard. All that rage, all that terror and need for retribution and blind hate from someone deeply scarred against the very thing that scarred him.
So much more emotional, character and dramatic depth than, for example, any of Moffat's era.
+Benny H Reviews
Heaven Sent.
+Ionut Maris
Heaven Sent was a very good episode. But there were flaws. Capaldi's acting was great and the writing was too but they never explained how you can hide clues in a place that constantly resets itself or why the wall he was punching wouldn't reset. Over all it was a good episode but one good episode doesn't make up for the majority of Moffats era and I feel that the fact that people direct me to that episode all the time demonstrates the over all quality of Moffats era. Although some episodes were good overall it wasn't great. (This is my opinion and I'm trying to be reasonable. Only saying incase some aggressive person comes along.) :)
Benny H Reviews
The wall didn't rest for the same reason why the skulls and the stars didn't: it wasn't part of the castle.
But then why didn't the clothes reset to not being there? And the first time the clothes wouldn't have been there so he'd have had to walk about naked which isn't really a plot flaw but its not the nicest of thoughts. XD Also the Doctors skull should have disappeared when it was inside the castle. I don't want to stop your enjoyment if it and I still think its a great episode but these things niggle me. :P
This was my first time meeting a dalek. And I KNEW how dangerous they were with that look he had on his face
Series 1 is one of the best things ever made on television. The Moffat era is a school play in comparison with it.
The Long Game.
***** Dalek
Nicolas Natalini And that one admittedly brilliant episode makes the whole series "one of the best things made on television"
***** I have my personal opinion, you have yours.
Nicolas Natalini I don't have a lower opinion of this episode than you, but the series is far from perfect.
rewatching is so many years after i first seen it still proves that to me Ecclestone was the best Doctor. And that scene was just brilliant. Not only one of few actually deep interactions with daleks beyond typical "exterminate", but the way Doctor shows so many different feelings in such a short time was amazing. Like when his smile dissappears before dalek says "so are you", like if he thought of it himself just before dalek voiced it.
Fourteen years on and this is still my favourite Dalek story, and favourite Doctor moment, the range of Christopher Eccleston is phenomenal and why Rob Shearman never wrote for Doctor Who on TV again is a mystery.
Dalek: I am alone in the universe....
Me: Aww, poor little cutie just let me hug the genocide out of you
I honestly admit I feel bad for that Dalek. It feels an emotion that even the Doctor believes no being should ever feel, hopelessness.
A Dalek companion would've been awesome.
exactly what I thought when I saw this scene
Pyromantic Pyromancer it’s kind of what I thought when I saw Rusty, speaking of which... anyone want a series dedicated to him, or a mini series showing what he was up to, besides exterminating the other Daleks, up until the point where they eventually met again?
@@Soundwave45681.... BESIDES EXTERMINATING DALEKS? WHAT ELSE WOULD I DO?
I always loved the way Eccleston said "Exterminate"
Wish they hadn't named the episode 'Dalek'. It gave away what was in there, could have been an awesome surprise.
Could’ve been called something like “An Ancient Enemy” or something.
The Last Survivor would have been a good title. As I don't even think the Daleks had been established as the Time Lords enemy in the Time War until this episode.
Should have called it Metaltron.
This may sound strange, but in many ways, 9 is the last classic Doctor. The last one to have that much older and wiser intellect of the Doctors. 10 just had a huge IQ(despite me loving him) and 11 was senile.
You want senile? Try 12
rtyrtyrty123123123 LOL
rtyrtyrty123123123 I think 12 is a lot smarter and icier than 11. 11 was basically a guy who left all his issues to the next guy. 12 is now tackling them.
DarthRushy At least 11 knew how to fly a tardis.
rtyrtyrty123123123 True that. But then again, 2 was the most popular and he didn't.
Love this doctor. The dark side to the 9th doctor gives him so much more character
I could honestly watch this scene over and over again. SO GOOD!
I always regard Dalek as Eccleston's magnum opus as the Doctor. Seeing this already-damaged man come face-to-face with one of the very things that played a huge part in arguably the most traumatic event in his long life always makes for gripping viewing. The trauma, pain, terror, rage and contempt at discovering that one had survived, that what he did to end the Time War had potentially been all for naught is compounded by his gloating if not psychotic laugh at its powerlessness and solidified by sadistically torturing it without any hesitation. Love it 😍
I truly believe if Ecclestone stayed for 3/4 series he would be regarded as arguably the best Doctor ever.
Such a shame he left so soon.
I really wish Christopher Ecclestone had agreed to make more than one series. He is for my money the best Actor to play the doctor so far. I want to clarify that doesn't mean he was the best ever doctor in my opinion. Some of his stories weren't as well written as either Tenant or Smith's and most of this series acted as a re-introduction to Old Dr Who villains rather than a true continuation of the series. He laid the foundations for new who in this series but I wish he'd stayed and built on them a little more. I do like David Tenant and Matt Smith's doctors but there was a gritty edge to the ninth (now tenth) doctor that they lacked.
I agree. I hope Capaldi will be more along the lines of Eccleston than Tennant or Smith. But of course, I want him to be completely unique as well, as all Doctors should be.
How is this a re-introduction to Old Who villains? The only ones they brought back were the Daleks!
If anything's a reintroduction to Old Who villains, it's Tennant's era! The Daleks, the Cybermen, the Sontarans, the Master...
DarthRushy Hi Darth, don't forget Christopher Ecclestone was the first NEW Doctor. In this one episode you see the Daleks AND the cybermen (well the head of one) and later on we have the Slitheen.
I suspect we would have seen the others had he stayed on for a second series but the Bad Wolf Storyline occupied pretty much all Season One and that was based entirely around the Dlaeks and Rose. We did see the Autons (also known as the Nestene) in the very first episode, they were around in both Pertwee and Tom Baker's time so he did bring back a few of the old series enemies but mainly series one was a re-introduction to the Doctor, the Tardis and to the fact he travels with a human companion a lot of the time.
I guess when you only have thirteen episodes you just can't squeeze in every single bad guy from a series that ran for 26 consecutive years in its first incarnation. Unless of course we get a REAL Tardis and make thirteen HUNDRED episodes but to do it we'd have to keep crossing our own Time Stream and I hear that's a no-no. The Tardis herself doesn't like it when you do that :)
DarthRushy There was a cyberman head in this episode does that count?
***** No, it counts as much as a picture in J. Smith's journal or a flashback.
Christopher Ecclestion is my favorite Doctor!
3:19.
“HAVE PITTY!!!”
7th “I had pitty for you!!!”
I've watched this scene dozens of times and this is the first time I've caught that line
The range of emotion he showed in this scene is so good. Went from fear, to anger, to the realization that he was just like the daleks. He went into denial, and then he snapped. Quite scary how unstable the doctor actually is
Also sheer glee when he claims he “made it happen” only to backpedal when the Dalek asks “YOU DESTROYED US!?”
This is the defining moment of Eccleston’s run, and arguably the most impactful moment of connection between the two series
1:40 - this exchange provided the nucleus for the 50th Anaversery episode...
The ninth doctor is my favorite
Hearing a Dalek say "have pity" is truly something else, since they have no idea what this word even means
one of my favorite doctor who scenes ever. eccleston is such an amazing actor
This doctor was so much more ruthless than all the others. He didn't negotiate with his enemies. 10 said no second chances. But what he meant was you get a chance at redemption even after being evil. And as you go on he becomes much more kind and forgiving. 12 even saves davros as a child. Because there must always be mercy.
Its so awesome to see that progression of those scars. All that started with number 9. (In the new series of course) Ill always love Chris Eccleston for being such a unique doctor and bringing everything back. And portraying someone in a way he could never know it would develop. He's not my favorite Doctor, but his uniqueness means he's basically in his own running.