"You Would Make A Good Dalek" | Dalek | Doctor Who | BBC
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- The last Dalek in the universe has regenerated itself with some help from Rose. It has scanned the universe for more of it's kind, but found none and no one to give it orders. The Doctor has a suggestion.
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“Where shall I get my orders now?” Probably the closest thing a Dalek has ever felt to grief.
Just imagine…. The one thing giving you a purpose, gone.
Luigi, he is immortal & immune, he will make the Dalek his Friend.
@@azurecorviknight4189well that didn’t go well
@@_JesusChrist.except for rusty
"You... would... make...a good..... Dalek," is probably the most damage any Dalek has ever done to the Doctor!
It must be strange knowing that the most savage burn you can drop on an enemy is comparing them to yourself.
That...was deep.
Technically in regards to the Dalek saying that, it was a compliment.
Drop a live grenade when killed.
@@GlitchedAI Indeed, which made it all the worse for the Doctor. Given his passionate hatred of them.
The worst part is that the dalek probably meant it as a compliment
"You would make a good Dalek" is both a deep cut, one of the harshest insults the Doctor could be given, while also possibly being the truest statement a Dalek has ever spoken. That one wasn't the only Dalek who thought the Doctor would be a good Dalek, another one said 12 would be a good Dalek.
Actually rusty said The Doctor IS a good Dalek
@@adamoswaldplayz9416 Sure did!
But that was the 12th Doctor! (Peter Capaldi)
@@ComradeRagdoll I know
But there‘s a difference even I do understand as a German and not native speaker! This one here ment the doctor is good at being Dalek! Rusty ment, the Doctor is a Dalek, being good!
The same difference you can make, using German, when you tell someone is a good Geman ( non-ironically) and you mean, though he‘s German, he‘s a good person ( maybe to a Person who comes to Germany and fears predjudice) or you say (ironically) he‘s a good German, as an insult ( if you’re left wing like me…)
"...You would make a good Dalek."
Ouch. I felt that burn.
Especially considering the fact that Daleks see everything else as being so inferior that they need to be exterminate. So by saying the Doctor would make a good Dalek, it is actually showing respect. The highest possible praise it can give to a non-Dalek.
fbiuzz am sads
fbiuzz The feels.
Into The Dalek. Rusty: i am not a good dalek. you are a good dalek
me: owned by a darlek how dose it feel
9: ...
me: holy fez of gallifray he is speechless it is the fury of a timelord
Best Dalek portrayal ever, the last soldier without any orders therefore nothing to fight for making him redundant, other episodes make them seem pure monsters but this one makes them more human than ever
Your staring into a mirror my friend into the darkness of All souls the potential contained within all of us
You have to remember he absorbed Rose’s DNA
@@Shinohara445even before that he seemed a lil depressed lol
i believe the 10th one would have been just as good, i cant remenber his name but he was the one that made me be captivated enough to watch a season, this guy didnt do it for me
Isn’t that a disturbing thought, a creature built to kill anything different being human
Proof right here that Series 1 is seriously underrated!
I honestly don't think there is a single bad episode in S1. A few unremarkable ones, yeah, but not bad.
This isn't series 1. Series 1 was with Hartnell.
Alex Leonardi This is series 1 of New Who, it should be pretty clear I wasn't referring to Classic Who.
Felix Hindemo Ah. Sorry. I get confused with the reused serial names.
Alex Leonardi No worries :)
I still think this is the best representation of a fearsome Dalek nowadays they got turned into a bit of a joke
Kind of yeah
EDIT: I believe the word is misused, and to a great extent
Get cracking on Asylum of the Daleks and The Magician's Apprentice, I'd say.
+Garrosh Hellscream You mean the one where they are hacked despite not being robots and the one where they sit around and don't do anything?
It's like Inverse Ninja Law. 1 Dalek is always more effective than 1 million Daleks.
Veikko Elo The Dalek themselves are organic, but they are linked to the electronics in their suits. Check 'The Witch's Apprentice' to see how a Dalek operates their suits.
Imagine looking into the eyes of your hated enemy, the embodiment of hatred and cruelty, and being told you would have done well as one of them
I'd love it.
Edgy 14yo screaming at furries online
@@humblebeningings no one hates Furries more than Furries
What would a Dalek say to an enemy that is the last of its kind?
Pretty much what the Doctor was saying to him.
This was a surprisingly self aware moment for a Dalek.
"When you fight monsters, be careful you do not become a monsters. And when you gaze into the abyss, remember that the abyss gazes also onto you."
There’s something about the way that line is delivered, something in the Dalek’s tone of voice. It’s more subdued then the usual screeching. It’s the sound of someone who KNOWS they’ve found the perfect way to push someone’s buttons.
It's understated, but the Dalek was subtly but deliberately winding the Doctor up the entire episode. Remember when it begged for mercy?
Two minutes ago, it had been told us that the electricity wasn't really that painful to it. It had been easily bearing the pain for decades already....leaving the implications that it was just trolling the Doctor.
An enemy giving you a compliment
that one statement was made a lot more clear than the frankly hard to hear sentences its said before. its subtle, but noticable. i think that helps with making it feel a lot more important as a line.
@@omni0414 To me, it comes across as sincere.
@@SamuelBlack84 It was not a compliment....It was a horrifying insult...
You're gonna get *_rusty_*
I knew that sounded familiar. Now I know why
hmmmm
“You Are A Good Dalek…”
conspiracy theory dun dun duuuunnnnnnn
I despise that Moffat never went anywhere with the concept of a friendly Dalek, imagine…a *DALEK* companion
1:32 "Why don't you JUST DIE?!"
I love how there is a bit of spit on his lip. Makes him look like a raving madman, possessed with anger and hatred with no reason that he is literally frothing at the mouth.
Eccleston was absolutely incredible in this episode. He’s probably the only actor to have played the doctor who could've pulled this story off as well as it deserved
As much as I love Ecclestone, I think any of the actors to play the Doctor could have pulled that off, but it suits nines damaged character :)
Vladimir Lenin I think Capaldi would do it good. But not as well as Christopher.
Vladimir Lenin One of the reasons that Ninth is my favorite Doctor of them ALL (plus, he was the very first one I'd ever seen...matter of fact, this EPISODE is the very first one I'd ever seen).
Deathlygunn
Eh...
The latest one might have been able to pull it off pretty well...
Maybe even Tennant...
...
Matt smith on the other hand, no...
He's too silly and generally whimsical, which is fine in light scenes...
But in heavy scenes like this one, he can't cut an imposing figure, and whenever he does try to be intimidating, dramatic or otherwise serious it comes across as awkward and ridiculous...
Like a circus clown with all the trimmings trying to pull off a deadpan performance while chunks of fresh cherry and vanilla pie are still sliding down his face...
Vladimir Lenin Yes, this is a very intense scene. Previously The Doctor was very joyful and it seemed like nothing really bothered him (don't know if this holds true for every incarnation, this was my first Doctor ;) ). But here he lost his temper and in the end he had to admit the Dalek was right.
gonna need a few regenerations to heal that burn.
Zoras88 actually it's a compliment
dragenfire68 that just makes it worse
The dalek droped a imaginary mike and then glided away while the doctor exploded in flame.
*3 Regenerations Later*
Rusty: You are a *GOOD DALEK!*
Burnt so much, he regenerated into a girl
The reason the Dalek killed himself at the end is because when he downloaded the entire internet he saw 4chan...
AlexGameGuides Win.
King Julian U made my day bro
+King Julian actually 4chan would give it a reason to live
+Tieger Kater Not really sure about it mate.
Arent Daleks terrorists?
This is probably the deepest and coldest comeback ever uttered. In The Doctor's rage and hatred for the Daleks he is unaware of how far He is sinking to their level, until the last Dalek with impress makes him realize his hatred is turning him Into the very killers of his people. To have your mortal enemy applaud and praise you for becoming like them so well is the most Savage realization for any protagonist in a story.
well it is not necessarily praise
@@mareksicinski3726
To the dalek's pov, probably
@@mareksicinski3726 It's pretty much the highest praise a dalek could give.
I don't think he is unaware. I think on some level he already knew - he just didn't want to face it because... well. Why would you want to admit that you were in any way close to them?
Eccleston will always be the most human of the doctors. You can see his hate, his fears, his need to make life better and how he hates people dying. He wants people to live, to be happy but everywhere he goes, he brings destruction. It was even said at the first 2 episodes. Every time I see the 9th doctor, I feel it was cut short and he was amazing. All his life he wanted to help people, especially in that episode where he said, look rose, no one died.
Despite him being the incarnation who isn't all that enamoured with humanity - on the surface at least (we're all "stupid apes" :P)
Fresh out of being the war doctor
"Just this once, EVERYBODY lives!!"
"That path to hell be riddled with good intentions."
@@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45 beat me to it
The Doctor really just told that Dalek "Kill yourself NOW" ⚡️
"You would make a good Dalek"
that line alone sums up all the darkness within the doctor
awesome
Ten years later and it's still gives me chills: "you would make a good dalek"
16 years later and still
Only now do I realise. He was by their way of thinking he was the greatest dalek ever on kill count alone. So his orders should have been.
"I am the greatest dalek by your definition, your orders are to live in peace or disobey me"
Maybe could have changed the corse of the daleks
I love the Ninth Doctor. He can have a fun time, but he is more openly aggressive and ruthless than Ten and Eleven.
The man who rages, the man who regrets, and the man who forgets.
Four Stages of Grief
Nine: the man who rejects (denial and anger)
Ten: the man who regrets (bargaining)
Eleven: the man who forgets (depression)
Twelve: the man who accepts (acceptance)
ninth is the best
Considering that it’s implied he’s the doctor the War Doctor immediately regenerated into, this makes sense given his trauma about the time war.
All his life, the doctor has hated the Dalek's, and they have hated him in turn. He couldn't stand them, and they despised him. He thought it was over, it cost him his species, but at last, the one thing he hated was gone from the universe...and now, he stands before the last dalek, one massive slap in the face. He committed genocide against his own race to wipe them out, and yet here, a single dalek survived, mocking him, mocking those he lost in the war.
The doctor could not stand for that insult, and he wanted the dalek destroyed, not just because of the danger it represented, but because of the wounds it opened just by existing. That is why the doctor was so furious, not just because he hates them, not just because of what they are, but because of the audacity of this single dalek to survive, while his own race was condemned to extinction.
Only in this scene did the doctor realize the gravity of what he had done. He knew he had wiped out his race, he knew he had committed dual genocide with what he had done, he knew that he had more blood on his hands, than what anybody could ever forgive him for...
But until this scene, he never realized, that with his one action, no matter his intentions, no matter what lies he told himself...he didn't just become as bad as the daleks...
He became worse than them...because not even the Daleks would condemn their race to extinction, to wipe out another race. Only one being in all the universe, was filled with so much hatred, to commit such an ultimate act of hate...not The Beast, not the Dalek Emperor, not the Cult of Skaro...none of them possessed such hatred...
Only the doctor.
"I see beauty in you... I see divinity... I... see... hatred!!"
Yeah...
very well written
Yup
"He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you stare into the abyss long enough, the abyss will stare back at you." -Nietzsche
I see into your soul, Doctor. I see beauty, I see divinity, I … see … hatred!
+Omar Ahmed THE DALEKS MUST BE EXTERMINATED.
+秘密クリス I'm am not a good Dalek, you are a good Dalek.
THE DALEKS HAVE BEEN EXTERMINATED
+ThatHailloGameDude 7398 THE DALEKS WILL RETURN
Life returns. Life prevails.
The worst thing you could ever receive from a dalek:
A compliment.
Edit: Bloody hell, I wasn't expecting this comment to blow up like this!!! XD
Edit 2: can’t believe how much this comment has grown 3 years ago. What the hell?!?! 😂
1year on, still a great comment
2 years on, still a great comment
2 years and some days later and STILL a FUCKING great comment
@@DraconX3 2 years a couple days and 16 hours later AND STILL A FANTASTIC COMMENT
Time traveler from 1000 years in the future and it still is a good comment
If you think about it, he's got a point. The Doctor would make a good Dalek.
+jake challoner This Doctor at least. Mostly because he is the most like the War Doctor who came just before Nine.
+WHITE DEER over the entire series they keep saying that.
The Doctor overmatches Batman indeed.
Well in this moment he actually is as bad as a Dalek. Sure he doesn't want to exterminate every other race besides the time lords but in this moment he is basically saying he would be fine with committing mass genocide against another species to "rid them of their filth". Sounds awfully like a dalek to me.
This entire scene sums up why the 9th Doctor was the best one. The other doctors from the new series have their dark moments for sure, but I don't recall any of them other than this one wishing death upon their enemy. Christopher Eccleston nailed this scene.
"This is your freedom, free to DIE! Your going into that black hole and i'm riding with you!" - tenth doctor. 9 and 10 had VERY serious moments. Then you have 11. God i'm glad he's gone.
What about 12?
***** Well, 10 did go Time Lord Victorious...
DoomRulz Tennant did worse. Remember the family in series 3?
I think the reason for the Doctors after the 9th toning down their anger, and I mean in the actual story, is because they saw the 9th Doctor's rage and hatred towards creatures like the Daleks as a major flaw so his future regenerations did their best to suppress it all. Remember that the Doctor is supposed to be a man who wishes to heal not kill.
That logo comes way too quickly. That line is supposed to sink in.
I mean look at the way that scene plays out, with the close up of the Doctor as he gets more and more intense. The camera cuts to the forlorn Dalek who pays his ancient enemy a compliment of sympathy. Then it cuts back to the Doctor and not only his expression priceless, the background is almost completely black.
Imagine being complimented by your sworn enemy. especially when they identify themselves with you. Everything you hate and swore to defeat tells you "you would make a good Dalek" 9 really shows the horror and revulsion of that realization.
For me, the noise the screen makes when it switches off, makes the scene, the severity of the situation and the anger and fear in The Doctor after he’s told he’d make a good Dalek. That “foom” sounds that the screen makes, for me just ups the tempo
@VanaFanta Yes
@VanaFanta It is sad, but it makes the episode so much more meaningful. It was the logical conclusion to the events, as well as the Dalek submitting itself to the rage of The Doctor. It shows how anguished and hate-filled the Doctor truly was, which is one of the key parts of the episode.
Series 1 was just awesome, I feared and pitied a Dalek at the same time
Seeing this when ur 6 years old for the first time installs some horrifying fear of daleks the show now can never replace.. such good writing and acting, even the sounds are spot on in this series
In my humble opinion the greatest Doctor Who moment of all time.
Friedrich Nietzsche I must say I am curious what somebody like Nietzsche would actually think of this dilemma.
Also where The Beast asks the Doctor "Is that your religion?"!
The Daleks in series 1 are the best out of the new series in my opinion, they havent been this ruthless and scary for a long time, especially in the latest episode where they manage to have artificial emotions. The Dalek in this episode has killed more people than every dalek in the later series.
I have to agree. The Daleks were, for the most part, written better under Russel T Davies. The only advantage I can think that the Daleks in Steven Moffat's run have is that in Victory of the Daleks they were more subtle, clever, and manipulative, showing more of their cunning side. Other than that, they've not been handled as well after Series 5.
...Wow, I just made a comment favoring something in the Ninth/Tenth Doctor eras than in the Eleventh Doctor era... Anything's possible, I guess.
DalekTheSupreme IMO a lot of things are different and better in the RTD era, but then again it also fails at points in which the Moffat era has succeeded in. So it's all really opinion I guess, and which parts are valued more.
iHuzza Indeed.
DalekTheSupreme Indeed Indeed.
Alex Leonardi Its a figure of speech... Not contributing to a conversation and simply saying 'Season 27' is just irrelevant.
We haven't had a good Dalek story since this, really. This is possibly one of the best episodes of Doctor Who ever, but definitely at least one of the best of the New Series. Love it.
djayscratcher
True, I did enjoy that one a lot.
i loved the asylum though... that 'you think hatred is beautifull' moment was awesome...
wyrm rushton Asylum was well......... a massive flop compared to some other stories
Actually I think every season had at least 3 fantastic episodes that made me on the edge of my seat
well except for everything with david tennant, almost everything was that for me
Victory of the Daleks was pretty cool...
what kills me about this is how the Dalek seems genuinely conflicted about what to do. There are no other Daleks to give him orders, which means that there's no reason to even try an conquer the earth.
It was born and bred to kill every other race in the universe to make his race supreme. But if he can't do that, if there's no reason to kill and no other Daleks to continue their primary function...what else is there for him?
Everything was born and bred :)
yeah it is a great episode, I like the audio story it's based on called jubilee. Where a dalek literally begs the doctor for orders on what to do, and cannot answer the doctor when he asks what the daleks will do if they win
he was born to destroy but he had a bit of rose in it so that made it question its self
It really makes you ponder. What happens when a creature bred to destroy, runs out of things to destroy? It had the potential to do whatever it wanted. But on a genetic scale; all it knows is death and destruction. What else is there? Being bred to take orders is another thing. It can't function when it can't follow its own primary directive. Its a horrible thing to wonder.
Yeah it makes you think doesn't it? Like the doctor said "what's the point?" the Dalek is alone just like the doctor but the Dalek relies on the hive mind mentality. There's nobody to validate it's existence so it's futile and the Dalek has the Nazi ideology of "we are the superior race and you are inferior and must be eliminated" so it's living on instinct "i must destroy" but like the doctor says "what's the point?"
Rose's DNA is changing it, it can be more but it's incapable of understanding that. So the primary directive is aimed at itself. It must exterminate because it's impure. It's not a true Dalek anymore. Horribly depressing to think about.
the doctor truly did say "YOU SHOULD KILL YOURSELF NOW" lmao, it was even raining. truly the precursor to LTG.
If you look closely you can see the exact moment his hearts break in two.
Tips Scales Shouldn’t that be “break in four”? 😉
This was the first time I had ever seen or heard of a Dalek in my life. Sure, I'd heard the all too famous exclamation "Exterminate" before, but I had no idea where it was from. Then I saw this. I heard its awful voice, saw its murderous rampage, and its soulless mentality. Just picturing there being an entire species of it was enough to make me cringe.
I can only imagine your reaction when you saw the season finale when the Emperor came around.
My first time was a halo dr who crossover.
But, you see, if everything in the entire universe was a dalek, there'd be no conflict. Well, maybe except just to keep things interesting. I mean, imagine if humans were the only beings in existence, we'd still fight the way we do now.
@@billcalypso3145 there are daleks that think other daleks models or generations, are inferior
@@artifex2.080 so very humane. They would make a good humans.
"Local time lord cyberbullies Skaro resident into suicide"
Skaro newspaper
Absolute bias
Such an underated comment 🤣
Details at 11.
@@artifex2.080 That would assume the daleks have a political spectrum.
@@franzferdinand9093 they absolutely do, they vote for davros every voting season
This episode is what got me into this show... XD This scene probably had something to do with it. It's great when an enemy can point out something about the protagonist like that.
Same with me. This was when I realised it wasn't just some show but one with real depth and emotion.
Ninth Doctor: The Daleks have failed! Why don't you finish the job and make the Daleks extinct. Rid the Universe of your filth! Why don't you just die?
Dalek: You would make a good Dalek.
'Years later'
Twelfth Doctor: You looked inside me and you saw hatred. That's not victory. Victory would have been a good Dalek.
Rusty: I am not a good Dalek. You are a good Dalek.
mind blown, activate.
YOU. MAKE. A. GOOD. MIND-BLOWAH
cool
Who knew that the Dalek had the capacity for word play and insults?
Jarock316 and who we
Everyone's talking about the Daleks final line, but the framing on the doctor is incredible for his reaction. Just him, in a black void, realizing that this Dalek is 100% correct. They framed that shot perfectly
I like how there's a constant theme throughout the show of what a "good Dalek" is. A good Dalek isn't a morally good one, a good Dalek is just one that is pure to its mission of extermination, regardless of the target.
I don't watch this show...but that was pretty powerful. He exclaims that his kind and his filth should die, and the Dalek recognizes it as what his own kind do, stating "You would make a good Dalek" clearly pointing out the Doctor's mental process and logic in that moment was not that different from the Daleks.
That is a good way to point that out!
Exactly right!
When I first saw the design of the Daleks years ago, I remember how unimpressed I was. They looked goofy, cheap, and not at all threatening. But after having watched just a few bits of their appearances on UA-cam, I understand why they make such a compelling antagonist for the series. The way they are portrayed is horrifying, soulless, and brutally efficient. It doesn't matter if they looked like overgrown, pimped-out roombas. It's their intent and personalities make them so incredibly intimidating.
i should turn my roomba into a dalek
@@cement_eater DUST DETECTED! EXTERMINATE
The music from this scene always gave me the chills. But also sadness for the dalek. Struggling to accept he's the last.
Only he wasnt the last one. Not even close XD
@@evanmiller2562
Back by popular demand.
I used to hate this scene. I used to hate how entitled the Doctor was, to tell the last member of its species to kill itself. That his anger was unneeded and immature. Then I grew up.
What he said, what he feels, it makes sense. He's a war vet. The only survivor from a broken empire. The last Timelord. Looking into the eye of the one that made him destroy it all. The one thing that justified him killing his species, his Family. He failed to kill the one thing that made him murder his family.
Imagine that. A horrid monster is going to slaughter your baby, brother, wife, anyone and everyone close to you. And as soon as it's done bathing in their blood it's going for every last living thing it can and will see. The only way to kill it and save the world is to release a gas inside your home that will also kill everyone you love. You become a coward. You leave the house while you watch everyone die. But it's ok, the creature is dead. You saved the public by sacrificing your loved ones, it doesn't have to hurt as bad. Then as you turn around to begin your family's last wishes, the creature is sitting there. Right in front of you. You killed your family to save the world. But now the reason you pulled the trigger is loose. You failed. You killed everyone who you loved; everyone who ever loved you. For nothing. You can't ever get them back.
You reasonably tell the thing who drove you to all of it to die. It hurt you beyond reason. It made sure there was no other option. Why can't it just die? Why can't it stop reminding you that you're a failure? You tell it to die. Kill itself.
It calls you its brother.
How angry would you be?
Wow man, beautiful said.
in this scene The Doctor's rage really stands out so much anger in his eyes which I can understand he's just got over a war and seen thousands of his family,friends and fellow timelords get gunned down by Dalek fire power seeing that much death is enough to make anyone furious
which makes The Doctor the most dangerous being in the Doctor who galaxy.
This scene just hits the right string in my heart the doctor just letting his emotions out cause his mercy cost so many lives especially of the people he cared for
This episode broke me. 9 was my first Doctor. For the first bit of the season he was a peppy, adventure loving hero who just loved exploring the galaxy! And then, this Dalek appears...
And he turns into somebody else entirely.
A friend of mine tried to explain the Dalek/Time Wars while we were watching the episode, but it still hit hard.
I feel sorry for the Daleks. I really do. I mean, they’re practically brainwashed from birth to behave as they do. When this Dalek asked the Doctor what it should do, it really sounded so lost. That’s the sound and look of a creature who’s lost everything, and the Doctor was so blinded by hatred that he couldn’t see himself in it. The Daleks operate based on what they were constantly told is right from their birth. The Doctor no different. Neither are we. The values and morals that we hold are different, but in the end, it’s all the same principle. For the Daleks, their concept of Dalek supremacy is all they’ve ever known. Through Rusty, we’ve already seen that Daleks can be different, and that it’s their shell’s programming that forces them to do what they do. Without it, they’re left lost and confused until they come to new conclusions on their own. Even without damage having been done to them, they can still recognise and feel loneliness, and liken themselves to other creatures who are in the same situation. That’s something akin to empathy, because they understand, and they can identify their own feelings in other people. That’s reason enough to pity them.
Yeah I almost felt pity for a race of fascist aliens wearing clunky machine suits.
That’s pretty solid writing.
1:10 I think this is a great moment, because it shows that the doctor is even less reasonable than the dalek. In this moment it really seems like the dalek has reached the end of its own directive and is willing to abandon its primary directive to accept the doctor's orders, but he isn't willing to do the same.
I get goosebumps every time when the Doctor has his outburst. This episode was absolutely brilliant. The writing was amazing.
2005: "YOU WOULD MAKE A GOOD DALEK."
2014: "I AM NOT A GOOD DALEK. _YOU_ ARE A GOOD DALEK."
Bob Jones How come the daleks havent found a way to convert the doctor?
John Smith They have tried. I think it was said in a book or something by the Doctor himself that he would make an awful Dalek, as all of his other emotions give him the creativity that makes him such a deadly enemy. He'd just be like a normal Dalek if he ever was converted.
@thanosmarioorgana2501 Wow, that trully explains everything.
I feel sorry for this dalek....
Wouldn't it have been cool if the Doctor forgave that Dalek and he joined Rose and the Doctor to make a trio. And he'd still be around today. Like a permanent companion.
Josh McDonnell his voice constantly would drive me nuts
Erin Matthew Same tbh xD
Cryer24597 Yes
Cryer24597 Well there has been a dalek since that helped the doctor. we havent seen them since but theres still a possibility
the dalek's observation truly shook the doctor to the very core of his being.
This is why I think Eccleston was the best Doctor for me (alongside Capaldi). I just loved his interactions with the Daleks. The tenth and eleventh doctors just seemed to completely forget that the Daleks were the reason that he is the last of his kind (or at least he thought). They always just seemed to shrug it off, like "meh, Daleks again. Nothing I can't handle, they're not even dangerous". With the Ninth Doctor, you can see his hatred of the Daleks, but also fear too, because he knows that they are the most feared creatures in the universe. Plus, I also liked how the Daleks were even fearful of him too, even just recoiling at the sight of him.
The way the 10th and 11th acted towards Daleks is in line with their personality though, it doesn't mean they forgot.
If this episode had been bad the show wouldn't have survived to this point now
I feel like this scene doesn't get enough love. Eccleston's PTSD incarnation has an even worse taste for Daleks thanks to the Time War, and when he finds the "last" one he just wants it to be gone. It reminds him of the War Doctor. And then you can see it on his face. The existential crisis the Doctor has when his worst enemy, a Dalek, tells him he would be good at being a Dalek. I absolutely love this scene.
Why do I get the feeling this how Nine would react in a crossover with Four
Nine: "Why didn't you do the job and make the Daleks extinct. Rid the Universe of their filth. Why did wait so long?!"
Four: (beat) "You sound just like a Dalek."
I feel like 4 was scared to be like them, but over time the doctor just started to react on hatred more than heart in a way
You will.
The words that would burn in the heart of our hero for the rest of his life.
The delivery of that line is just perfect. The tone of the Dalek's voice, the quiet (lack of music), and the Doctor's reaction. Perfect.
"You would make a good Dalek." Still the best description of the Ninth Doctor, until Rose manages to bring out his humanity later in the series and he refuses to kill most of humanity to kill all the remaining Daleks.
this was probably one of my top 2 episodes..ever...the dalek is so chilling in this episode it captures them perfectly, plus the clear trauma that the Doctor still has from the Time War.
9th Doctor: So you downloaded the internet? What’d ya find?
Dalek: *I do not want to talk about it.*
The noveliation of this episode actually addresses this:
Dalek: I HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR THE DALEKS.
Doctor: Yeah, I saw. Downloading the internet. Wading through a lot of bare bodies, and petitions for the revival of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Dalek: ALL IRRELEVANCE HAS BEEN DISPOSED OF.
Doctor: And afterwards, what did you find?
You can tell how much that hurt.
***** The Doctor was told He'd be a god Dalek, and that hit him right in both hearts. And I guess the Dalek as well, considering he was meant to be the last one.
***** It's something called a typo that happens all the time.
***** Exactly, 1 letter can really change an entire sentence.
And he'd just got over being Hurt....
"You're gonna get rusty." Did Steven Moffat make a callback to this scene in "Into the dalek". Both daleks are very similar, in fact i thought it was the same one at first and that maybe he teleported instead of killing himself. Who would've loved if Rusty turned out to be this Dalek, it would have been much more interesting than what we got instead.
I wouldn't have loved it. It makes its death more meaningful.
***** Yeah. He ruined his own best villains (silence and angels) by revisiting them, who knows what he'd do to this episode.
***** Weeping Angels were great in Blink (Mine and many others favourite Dr Who episode). After that, instead of being unstoppable silent assassins accompanied by a creepy soundtrack, Moffat diluted the central idea of zapping people back in time with easy-to-exploit extra rules and put jolly heroic music over everything. Then he had the angels wiped from existence due to sheer stupidity on their part, then he introduced the ridiculous Angel of Liberty at the end of 7b. Then the angels are defeated in Time of the Doctor with just a mirror. The one exception is their cameo in The God Complex, where the lasting impression they had left on Gibbis was a nice reminder of their terrifying power.
The same goes for the silence. Their initial appearance was great, but again, Moffat dilted their central idea, allowed the Doctor to win against them much more easily and made them mere supporting villains. Now they're stuck in some church somewhere listening to confessions when they could be hiding in the shadows manipulating people and assassinating the ones that have them sussed out with lightning.
I'm not saying bringing a monster back is always bad, but it seems to be a trend with Moffat.
And have them ruin the memory of that episode as well! Great!!
The Time War certainly didn't benefit from that treatment and I highly doubt that Waters of Mars would either.
This is the moment the Doctor became LTG. Bravo Vince!
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I just watched Episode 2 of Season 8, and there is a scene where Rusty the Dalek was speaking to the doctor. The Doctor had said something like "I had hoped you would be a good Dalek" Rusty replies "I am not a good Dalek. You are a good Dalek". Immediately I thought back to this scene. "You would make a good Dalek".
You're gonna get Rusty.
Either moffat wanted to reference this dalek. Or they have some sort of connection.
Andi Ebibi
I think it's just a reference.
Yeah I guess. It wouldn't make actual sense to just have a connection. Unless it was some sort of Dalek cult besides The Cult of Skaro but I won't go that deep.
Derp Person the rusty cult. That sounds dirty.
1:10 The closest a pure dalek has ever come to changing it's mind, truly asking another living being for something other than ceaseless, pointless war... and the Doctor, blinded by his rage, sqandered it. The Doctor had an opportunity there, to reach out and maybe save this creature from it's own existence, but how could he? So soon after the end of the time war.
I love Christopher Eccleston as the Doctor. It was so dark, so fantastic, so wonderful (Tennant's still my favorite though). I mean you can see him literally foaming at the mouth when he tells the Dalek to die XD
Still gives me chills hearing the Doctor suggest suicide, even to a Dalek. Even the Dalek was like "Damn bro, you better at this than me!"
Must suck having this said to you twice.
“Where shall I get my orders now?!?!” Always manages to make me laugh
He honestly sounds like he’s on the verge of tears in this scene, especially What should I do? Honestly his entire species is dead, every one he ever knew and his only concern is his orders, I don’t know if it’s hilarious or heartbreaking
The Dalek after downloading the internet: _"Explain! EXPLAIN!!!"_ 😬
Just watched "inside the Dalek" with Peter Capaldi's doctor, and it reminded me of this. The doctor was told the exactly same thing in that episode. I also noticed the Eccleston's doctor saying 'you're going to get rusty" which is what Capaldi's doctor called the 'good' dalek. Very interesting!
I had never seen Doctor Who before I started watching the first season of new Who. I had never heard of a Dalek. This episode still hit hard, and I could empathize with Rose, because I shared her ignorance of these creatures, and of the dark deeds the Doctor has done to oppose them. As a newcomer to Who in general, and as an established fan rewatching, this episode still holds up.
" You are gonna get Rusty "
Wow, now that brick joke flew for centuries.
9th - the man who remembers
10th - the man who regrets
11th - the man who forgets
"KILL YOURSELF" is my all time favorite doctor who quote
I didn't start with this Doc but with Matt. And let me say I never thought the doctor could hold so much hatred. And hearing the man who never would say Die. Shook me to my core.
Russell T Davies at his finest! So happy he's coming back :)
1:20 **THUNDER CLAP**
This scene gets to the human truth of war. You cannot win a violent war without becoming that which you oppose.
"You're gonna get rusty."
Oh, I get it. Nice callback, Twelve.
Honestly daleks sound like someone having way too much fun with a voice changer
Dude, of all the enemies the doctor makes the daleks are the only ones he truly hates.
Well, other races didn´t wage a war with timelords. War that would destroy all time and space, if Doctor didn´t stop it (and at what cost!).
You know who would make a good dalek? Davros. If anyone is good at making daleks, it's him.
If he was good at making daleks the show wouldve been over
This was one of only a few episodes of Dr. Who I actually watched. Try as I might, I just couldn’t get into the show. However THIS episode, out of all the episodes I saw, was my favorite.
Even though I don’t like the show too much, this episode made me say “You know what? I DO get it. I get why people like this show so much.”
Such a good episode.
"Okay, that was good Christopher. Now let's try again without the spit."
Why? The spittle makes his seething hatred of the Dalek look more authentic. Never noticed it until now, surprise that.
Its not as bad as Timothy Dalton at the end of End of Time part 1
Mmm... pleghm
@@Radley1982 true but that made me lowkey gag
Imagine receiving a compliment from one of the most dangerous beings in the universe?
MY GOD the 9th season was underrated
Doctor might need to regenerate after that one
I think about this scene a lot. All things considered I truly think it’s the best scene in modern Doctor Who. The Doctors anger and grief coming through in a way that was never shown in classic Who. And for all of 9s criticism of human beings for their attitude and stupidity, here he is utterly powerless to his own emotions and pain. Like any human would be. The great time lord, the last of his kind, a husk of his former self as he argues with the last dalek, equally lost. A truly magnificent scene.
"I see beauty. I see divinity ! I SEE HATRED!!!!"
I can't believe the Doctor would tell the last of a species to kill itself.
The way he shouts the word "die" with the head turn really sells it. Like he'd tear its throat out with his teeth if he could. (And if it had a throat.)
"One who lives his life for the sake of combating some enemy, has an interest in their enemy's survival."
- Nietzsche
Maybe.
But that’s only if they don’t have an answer for “If and when you succeed in killing them what will you do?”
We need a low tier edit of the Doctor in this scene.
“What did you find?”
“Lots…of…pronography!!!!!”
This is why i love 9 so much, that complicated psychology that no other doctor can convey as well. I like the dark, traumatized PTSD doctor who you just have to look at to understand the true horror of the time war. He's like a walking bruise and this episode perfectly shows this.
"downloading the internet. What did you find?"
"Lots. Of. Explicit. Material"
Okay, so...I think this was my favorite scene in the whole series. Almost nothing in the series have given me the existential chills that the Dalek saying that the Doctor would "Make a good Dalek." This whole episode is just about how much boiling hatred the Doctor still has in him from the destruction of Gallifrey and how he needs to figure himself out in terms of that. The Dalek is evil, yeah, and it kills tons of people, but the Doctor is right: Since the war is over and all the Daleks are gone, what's the point of the fighting?
This and the scene where Nine met the last Dalek in the universe is Eccleston’s best moment! He captured all the Doctor’s PTSD, all his hatred, all his pain, all his sadness, all his suffering from the nightmarish hell that is The Last Great Time War.
I never saw Doctor Who before 2011 and started with this series this episode always stuck with me. The raw emotion in like every ounce of this episode works so well… and then you get to 2023 who. Oh how far it’s fallen