What is The Midnight Entity? (Doctor Who's Biggest Unsolved Mystery)

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  • Опубліковано 28 жов 2023
  • Doctor Who's BIGGEST UNSOLVED Mystery, even over 15 years later is that of the Midnight Entity.
    "Nothing can live on the surface of Midnight..."
    It's been over 15 years since the Doctor Who episode 'Midnight' aired and to this day, the identity of the antagonist in the story remains elusive. Until today where I set out to provide more details and explanations to the creature that has baffled fans for so many years.
    Hope you enjoy the video
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  • @dwfan91-
    @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +69

    I hope you all enjoy the video!

    • @needacharger3054
      @needacharger3054 7 місяців тому +1

      At 5:54 when you’re showing the shadow person if you look at the top right there’s movement like a person as well.

  • @endme1654
    @endme1654 8 місяців тому +584

    i think that what makes the midnight entity so terrifying is that we know NOTHING. even if we learn a single bit of information we lose its scare factor i hope it never comes back for its own sake

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +62

      I don't think it ever will, as I mention in the video, it really is a genius piece of work

    • @IN-pr3lw
      @IN-pr3lw 7 місяців тому +13

      And the doctor loses

    • @tennenyt5311
      @tennenyt5311 6 місяців тому +6

      Or it did and it was one of the two entities in Silent including what was clearly a Floof

  • @Snuzzled
    @Snuzzled 6 місяців тому +152

    The fact that it was revealed the Midnight entity eats into the brain of the victim.... Skye was long dead by the time she was pushed out of the airlock. That's crushing. I've seen this episode so many times and I always assumed Skye was just possessed and could have been saved. 😢

    • @cunningsmile4166
      @cunningsmile4166 9 днів тому +1

      And that's why you shouldn't let people who just had a divorce with an Abusor on trips

  • @AiRsTrIkExXzZ
    @AiRsTrIkExXzZ 8 місяців тому +229

    One of the greatest episodes. Spooky and terrifying without a hint of knowing what’s even happening or what the doctor is up against. All normal doctor who stuff weaponised against the doctor. Absolutely splendid episode

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +19

      it truly is one of those 'perfect storms' of an episode. everything working out to create one of if not the best episode of the series, I really like this one

  • @video-luver769
    @video-luver769 8 місяців тому +39

    I've known for years that the shadow is actually visible on screen, but I have literally never been able to see it.

  • @lithramel
    @lithramel 8 місяців тому +75

    legit when people say they show friends blink as a first episode I always question why when this episode exists. it's so much scarier to me and includes the doctor without a companion and see why he might need one like Donna with him.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +20

      Donna being mostly out of this episode works so well, not only on a meta level with it giving her time to work on Turn Left but also in universe the story makes sense because the Doctor is being ganged up on. If Donna was there the passengers would not be able to so easily overwhelm the Doctor

    • @gekozilla7339
      @gekozilla7339 8 місяців тому +9

      I think cause it's cause of how they're experienced. Blink is a doctor lite story and is completely unrelated from the rest if the series.
      With midnight, the same is true, it is slightly more tied to the series plot with the rose cameo. But part of what makes midnight work is how out of the blue it is. The second half of series 4 is already dark but this just comes out of nowhere. It works best when you watch series 4 for the first time and it takes you completely off guard. The part whic makes it a bad first episode most imo is the doctor, with blink he's barely in it and if you're a new viewer you get just enough of him forgetting have a basic idea of him and to want more. With midnight it works better to have seen tennant in other episodes, to see how he can take control of a situation and use his own wit and charisma to do it. But in midnight it's turned in its head and doesn't work. So having those previous cases in your head and expectations of the doctor to solve things adds to the fear and horror aspect when it doesn't work
      And also when paired up with turn left right after. Watching it as an introductory episode takes away from what makes it special

    • @samc64
      @samc64 8 місяців тому +9

      I love midnight, but I don't think it works as an introductory episode. Part of the reason midnight works so well is that it subverts the standard structure of a DW episode, which wouldn't make sense of you've never seen one before

  • @glencollins2395
    @glencollins2395 8 місяців тому +42

    Midnight is incredible. It is, without doubt, my favourite episode of Dr Who, classic series or new. I know that, back in the day, the show was getting super high viewing figures week by week - seven, eight, nine million - but even so I've always thought that Midnight was wasted as just another episode. It should have been that year's Christmas special so even more casual viewers could have seen what they were missing.

  • @rileyobrien8349
    @rileyobrien8349 8 місяців тому +36

    I genuinely think learning more about this beastie would take away my enjoyment of the episode.
    It uses the framing of perspective and negative space so well!
    I didn’t even realize the script was made out of restrictions, cool!

  • @adamfreddo5703
    @adamfreddo5703 8 місяців тому +74

    Schezro (my all time favourite doctor who story) has similar elements of psychology horror. An awesome Paul Mcgann audio story and an absolutely terrifying atmosphere. Literally lost years of my life after those audio jumpscares.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +11

      Scherzo at no1 is so respectable honestly

  • @invisi-bullexploration2374
    @invisi-bullexploration2374 6 місяців тому +13

    It seems like there is something... actively stalking the Doctor and toying with him throughout the later series. I always felt like it was a slow burn to a big bad reveal.

  • @WhatInTheDeepestShadeOfFeck
    @WhatInTheDeepestShadeOfFeck 6 місяців тому +17

    We all fear the unknown, and that's why it should never be revealed what the Midnight entity is

  • @zo0bit
    @zo0bit 6 місяців тому +9

    After Wild Blue Yonder my headcanon is that the Midnight Entity is a Not-thing that took a different approach to learning and copying people.

  • @EgburtEgg
    @EgburtEgg 8 місяців тому +28

    Duude I was so excited when I first saw this episode cos I was obsessed with Merlin at the time haha
    This is still one of my favourite episodes. I just love the concept of the Midnight Entity and the horror aspect it's so cool aguaughghgh

  • @cillianennis9921
    @cillianennis9921 8 місяців тому +25

    I like how all the information you use is just the things from the show itself. I feel like the affecting there mood is only really evident on the Doctor but I like it better if you take it as an analyse on how humans can quickly turn against each other under stress. The video essay by Harbo Wholmes made me really appreciate this episode that as a kid I kinda didn't fully understand its themes.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +7

      I have not heard of that guy but, watching the episode for myself, in my opinion you can see how the creature is influencing them all and making them more hostile. The aspect of tribalism is definitely still there just with the added sci-fi element

  • @michaelknasel1641
    @michaelknasel1641 8 місяців тому +15

    Rewatching Capaldis era, the episode Listen made me think the midnight entity could have easily been the that same creature

    • @nicko1710
      @nicko1710 2 місяці тому +1

      The episode listen is not related to midnight... The creature in listen is not implied at all to be anything however it fits the description perfectly to be the floof which is a creature in the comics. It's too bad that is not confirmed because nothing really proves it isn't a floof which are also creatures who can hide perfectly.

  • @DerrylHopkins
    @DerrylHopkins 7 місяців тому +10

    Fun to think about if this entity is connected to the Doctor or not. It could be a prototype of the Valeyard or the Dream Lord, or it could have nothing to do with the Doctor. Either way, it's beyond his comprehension, at least at that point in his timeline.

  • @acex222
    @acex222 3 місяці тому +27

    The idea that the entity makes people more aggressive really ruins the metaphor of the episode.

  • @ludbud57
    @ludbud57 8 місяців тому +7

    Just want to say I appreciate your continued use of the smiley capaldi image.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому

      I love that image sm

  • @piedpiper814
    @piedpiper814 8 місяців тому +11

    great timing lol, I just rewatched it last night. What a fantastic episode

  • @Linkolnverse
    @Linkolnverse 6 місяців тому +4

    What fucks me up about finally seeing that shadow...?
    Comparing it mentally to The Spot in the Spiderman animated movies that came out recently.
    It gives off that appearance.

  • @zarrg5611
    @zarrg5611 8 місяців тому +10

    Wild Blue Yonder may a be a bit Midnight-y, although I also feel like the toymaker may be the thing the TARDIS is running away from, and the space station (or whatever it is) is built to contain him (a la Half Life Alyx).

    • @alyxleaf
      @alyxleaf 8 місяців тому +2

      I'm sorry I just had to mention that ALYX IS MY NAME I've never seen it anywhere in the wild before

  • @strawberry_gary
    @strawberry_gary 8 місяців тому +7

    i wish this channel was more popular; or maybe that more people loved this kind of content. been binging your vids, love it sm!! have a great week

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +2

      Thank you so much! you have a great week too

  • @spencerestes7563
    @spencerestes7563 8 місяців тому +7

    This was actually my first Doctor Who episode and my favorite!

  • @Mayeur000Donz
    @Mayeur000Donz 8 місяців тому +6

    Never knew there was an actual shadow you can see. That's so cool!

  • @corrinflakes9659
    @corrinflakes9659 8 місяців тому +3

    Doctor Who cosmic horror makes for my favourite episodes, they just get extra creative. Bad Wolf complaints make sense though, I feel this entity got more explanation in comparison, and Bad Wolf is more important.

  • @kieran9541
    @kieran9541 6 місяців тому +3

    I think it's a tardis and I will explain. You see the interior of a tardis is invulnerable compared the outside which is not, so due to the suns rays it had to take the form of the midnight entity to ensure it's existence as the light does not touch it or interact with it. But when it sensed the doctor it came out as I believe there was no other attacks before then in order to capture him. Therefore it destroyed the front of the ship to take as it's new exterior form, attacked the most vulnerable member of the ship to bait the doctor in order to possess him and compelled the crew to thrown him out therefore completely it's goal. The midnight entity solely wanted the doctor to become a complete tardis as only a time lord can use a tardis.

    • @kieran9541
      @kieran9541 6 місяців тому +1

      IT also knocked four times like the heartbeat of a time lord

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  6 місяців тому

      Nice!

  • @HenryCLHarries
    @HenryCLHarries 7 місяців тому +3

    And still 15 years later people think WBY was related to midnight entity soon ...the irony is that side by side RTD has lost his touch because midnight was incredible ....I genuinely get claustrophobic whenever I see it ...very effective whilst I'm not a huge RTD fan this one was such a highlight ....we will never get that quality again

    • @CNYTE
      @CNYTE 6 місяців тому +1

      I don't think he's lost his touch just yet, I think we need to give him some more time before making judgements like that. WBY was quite freaky and I quite liked it, although it was nowhere near midnight.

    • @HenryCLHarries
      @HenryCLHarries 6 місяців тому

      @@CNYTE there was nothing freaky about WBY it was a light fluffy cartoon .... People acting like it's scary makes no sense to me, it was terrible and wasted an hour on what should've been a 60th special not a series 4 part 2

  • @Just_Tim91
    @Just_Tim91 8 місяців тому +10

    Literally SO READY FOR THIS HOLY SHIT

  • @zoebrugg7594
    @zoebrugg7594 6 місяців тому +1

    Holy! You caught the tiny movement! I thought there was no movement in the clips at all!

  • @icemccoolfrost127
    @icemccoolfrost127 7 місяців тому +2

    It’s just wild to think with how they stopped the creature it’s still alive and out there, if it was on the planet to begin with then why would the sun affect it now right?

  • @kimbo31415
    @kimbo31415 8 місяців тому +2

    Another great vid my man!!!!!

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much!

    • @kimbo31415
      @kimbo31415 8 місяців тому

      Yo man, just wondering, how do you get the doctor who clips you need for your vids?@@dwfan91-

  • @eddos8303
    @eddos8303 8 місяців тому +1

    HI! Great Video btw, i just wanna ask for the Song you used in the Beginning?

  • @mwezi1
    @mwezi1 4 місяці тому

    Hello can I ask if this video is monetized even though you used tv show clips?

  • @BigBrosFilms
    @BigBrosFilms 8 місяців тому +2

    Nice I just rewatched this episode

  • @Oisin5555
    @Oisin5555 8 місяців тому

    Great video ❤❤❤ i love this episode

  • @andrewbanks1175
    @andrewbanks1175 8 місяців тому +12

    Honestly, I had blocked out this episode for a long long time, and only remembered it in this video, and I have to say… one of the best episodes ever. I couldn’t grow up with the original doctor who so this series was my absolute favorite, and I kept watching all the way until Peter capaldi finished playing the doctor. I had watched some episodes of the more recent series but, I just didn’t feel the same sense of wonder in it that I did when I watched this episode. This episode is what I think it means to be the doctor, and what I mean by that is in the episode, as dwfan explained, the world is gorgeous and is fully diamond, but nothing can live on the surface because of the sun. The doctor comes here for a vacation, when everything goes awry. Not wanting to skip a beat he goes to talk with the drivers and we are “introduced” to the midnight entity. Now, there are plenty of theories as to what the entity actually is, but I have to say, that the one I believe is the most believable, is some version of a weeping angel. One of the drivers sees it but it isn’t noticeable at all because its physical body has stopped from being seen. It is also able to withstand the radiation from the sun because it is a weeping angel, an inter dimensional assassin that can survive almost any climate or situation. When the window blast door closes, the angel makes its way to the bus, wanting to learn more about the inhabitants of the bus. I believe that this version of a weeping angel is one that kills the host and other people by taking their mind, and what I can use as proof for this is the scene where the doctor finds out the drivers are dead. The angel took the mind of one of the drivers and had them open the blast door that blocks the sun, and has them break the window while either fighting the other driver, or the driver that was taken over had already knocked them out. After the two were taken care of, the angel makes its way to the door to the bus and knocks. And then the events of the episode take place. The reason why I say this episode is what it means to be the doctor is because there is mystery, both as to why they were the ones to be targeted (it could be because of the doctor, but we don’t know), and what that entity actually is, and this episode also has grief when the drivers died, not because they were dead, but because they couldn’t get back home. Another theory for this episode I have is kinda hinted in this episode, but I believe the entity, or the angel, has the ability to affect other’s minds, if they are close enough, which brings in the biggest twist of the episode. The doctor’s mind being “taken”. This episode has everything, both the show and the titular character of the doctor, puts up front and center. It is a mystery as to what the doctor may find, and it is also a mystery if anyone survives. But one thing we know, is that the doctor will figure something out.
    (I know this makes no sense. I tried very hard to make it as understandable as I could, but my brain isn’t the best at explaining things. I hope I got my point across at least)

  • @ryloky6115
    @ryloky6115 8 місяців тому

    I instantly liked that video when I hear some fnaf OST in the background
    Keep the good work man that video was great

  • @piedpiper814
    @piedpiper814 8 місяців тому +1

    I have a question abt the membership tier. I can only afford the OGs tier rn, is access to the discord server a higher tier perk?

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +2

      nah dw its available at any tier :) the higher tiers only give smaller more exclusive perks so everything I say at the end of the video is available to anyone at any level

    • @piedpiper814
      @piedpiper814 8 місяців тому +1

      @@dwfan91- great! for some reason it doesnt say so in the tiers info, but then again the yt app is weird in my country. Thanks for the clarification!

  • @gengarvenom1180
    @gengarvenom1180 8 місяців тому +11

    The answer here is obvious. The Midnight Entity is the Doctor.

  • @Hazurt_
    @Hazurt_ 6 місяців тому

    What is the song in the first part of video

  • @melysoer7482
    @melysoer7482 Місяць тому

    Midnight is my favourite episode (and turn left is also a grat episode) finding out it was a low budget, filler episode makes it even better

  • @piedpiper814
    @piedpiper814 8 місяців тому +1

    ok when the driver said he thought he saw a shadow, I always thought he meant the shadow at the top right on the ledge at 5:53
    I didnt know there was another one, holy shit!

  • @user-sd8el7ex6u
    @user-sd8el7ex6u 5 місяців тому +1

    This was one of my fav episodes cus its so unexplained

  • @TheLankieMidget
    @TheLankieMidget 8 місяців тому +5

    the shadow you circled is just the twinkle of the diamond, it shifts across the corner so you can see the same shadow more clearly when they first open the window, the same is happening on the corner of the right side of the screen in your slow mo version, which I think is a more obvious shadow, but is clearly the corner again... I always imagined the creature to look like little goblins like the nursery rhyme Dee Dee sings, it kind of fits too with the whole diamond planet, and other depictions of goblins being obsessed with money and wealth, the pokemon Sableye literally has diamonds for eyes, and were inspired by the "real" encounter with the Kelly-Hopkinsville Goblins

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +1

      I like that

  • @ClaireSunshine
    @ClaireSunshine Місяць тому

    I don't know if I like the idea of the monster being responsible for the aggression through manipulation, I think that kinda hollows out the point of the episode as a cautionary tale about what people will do when they're scared.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  Місяць тому +1

      it can be both. Additionally your username is awesome

    • @ClaireSunshine
      @ClaireSunshine Місяць тому

      @@dwfan91- Thanks :)

  • @TimSlee1
    @TimSlee1 2 місяці тому

    I'm imagining the creature looks something like SCP 096, but that's just my take.

  • @-K7JJ31
    @-K7JJ31 7 місяців тому +1

    I was watching this and got jumpscared by a Amazon add at 6:02 😔

  • @ktl4854
    @ktl4854 7 місяців тому +2

    Anyone else see two moving shadows?

  • @TheToymaker0
    @TheToymaker0 8 місяців тому

    After about 12years of seing this episode i have never EVER seen that

  • @rogue_2k374
    @rogue_2k374 5 місяців тому

    Less of a theory and more of a possible connection, but this episode reminded me way too much to “The Wild Blue Yonder” to not draw any connections. Think about it, the entity has no known form, can in a way read human thoughts, mimics us, comes from a place no life can possibly exist, and is the one entity with no real explanation as to how it exists, not even what it is, but how, much like the Not Things. I’m not saying the two are the same being, but potentially have a similar origin. Food for thought you know.

  • @eggyolk2643
    @eggyolk2643 4 місяці тому

    I had always seen the entity as appearing just between the support beam(?) of the window and the ridge, not where you highlighted it. You can even see it there if you rewatch this video at around 5:53.

  • @cunningsmile4166
    @cunningsmile4166 9 днів тому

    Could the Midnight Entity retroactively be something that 14 gave acces to the universe

  • @DeadedGamers
    @DeadedGamers 8 місяців тому

    Midnight is in my top 5 doctor who episodes

  • @lexruptor
    @lexruptor 8 місяців тому +1

    I hope actually that it's all set up for the 60th so that there can be an undefined amount of time between the first and the last special, so that we can get 14 and Donna Big Finish or something. I mean, whether 14 is distinct enough or not it's more Doctor Who content. Are we really against that?

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +1

      Oh definitely not, and tbh I'm not too fussed. I'm kind of thinking that the 'Minisodes' are the Tales from the TARDIS series we're getting on wednesday, which is all good from me. my wish for a 'separate 14th dr era' is just a me thing lol and a pipe dream that is definitely not coming true. But a man can hope

  • @Odd_Bunny
    @Odd_Bunny Місяць тому +3

    What still fucks me up is how it survived on Midnight, how great are its defenses? Would you even be able to destroy it if you physically had it trapped outside of a host? How did it get there? How long was it there? So many questions about this one episode

  • @cxa24
    @cxa24 Місяць тому

    It is a tiger that could not get a meal

  • @cam1e754
    @cam1e754 8 місяців тому +1

    Bloody love that episode

  • @Th3-Captain
    @Th3-Captain 6 місяців тому

    I refer to this episode (the other passengers ) what people have turned into these days

  • @ST0orz
    @ST0orz 8 місяців тому

    I'm starting to think it was an LLM

  • @poisonpotato1
    @poisonpotato1 8 місяців тому

    5:52 theres another shadow just to the right of of the window frame

  • @theindiekebab5535
    @theindiekebab5535 Місяць тому

    That rose video on the tv but, reminds me of the idiots lantern and the wire.

  • @Kaptime
    @Kaptime 8 місяців тому +1

    I hope we never get any more information, after what happened to the Weeping Angels.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому

      what happened with them?

    • @Kaptime
      @Kaptime 8 місяців тому +6

      @@dwfan91- Too many appearances with contradictory lore (are they Timelords? can they move when looking at each-other now? Why do photos/drawings of them come to life now?) and most importantly they broke the don't move when the audience sees them aspect that made them so scary in the original serial. Keeping the Midnight monster confined to the limits of the original appearance is better than diluting the impact.

    • @miscstuff1238
      @miscstuff1238 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@KaptimeFair remark, too many appearances from the angels made them very heavy with abilities, and too high in number. Realistically they should control the universe by now, how does anything stop a healthy group of 10-20?

  • @Inhabited1island
    @Inhabited1island 8 місяців тому

    This ep was kinda scary

  • @bradzandmaxplays
    @bradzandmaxplays 6 місяців тому

    to me i've been calling it the mimic for years lol

  • @AlchemistOfNirnroot
    @AlchemistOfNirnroot 8 місяців тому

    Why isn't it releasing on the actual anniversary?
    Edit: I get it. But still. I'd rather have it be on a Thursday and celebrate the 60th to the day.

  • @Linkolnverse
    @Linkolnverse 6 місяців тому

    1:40 Lmao I never noticed that.

  • @LCBK
    @LCBK 3 місяці тому +1

    How can something live on midnight, simple take 12’s speech about evolution at the beginning of listen but change hiding to living on death the planet

  • @tenhayz1889
    @tenhayz1889 Місяць тому

    It was Evil Dan no doubt

  • @colehammel5176
    @colehammel5176 8 місяців тому +2

    I love you dwfan91!

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +2

      and i love you colehammel5176🫡

  • @colmcille4388
    @colmcille4388 8 місяців тому +1

    "wHaT mAkEs ThE mIdNiGhT eNtItY sO sCaRy Is ThAt wE nEvEr sEE iT"🤓

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +1

      So true 🤓

  • @Ericiswaiting
    @Ericiswaiting 8 місяців тому +1

    Less gooo

  • @crackiechan8704
    @crackiechan8704 6 місяців тому +1

    Its a demon

  • @gummygal008
    @gummygal008 3 місяці тому

    i think it's a ghost

  • @schmokmok69
    @schmokmok69 8 місяців тому

    Why don’t you have a channel picture?

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +3

      I do?

    • @schmokmok69
      @schmokmok69 8 місяців тому +1

      @@dwfan91- I only see a blue UA-cam thing

  • @nani4249
    @nani4249 5 місяців тому

    Im sure its just the doctor

  • @lexruptor
    @lexruptor 8 місяців тому

    Doctor Who news with Pokémon music is a mad vibe fr

  • @annas.1155
    @annas.1155 8 місяців тому

    Need your thoughts on the FNAF movie!!

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +2

      I thoroughly enjoyed it! in a couple of years I think a lot of people will come round to it and see it as a classic, this one'll definitely age great. I have a few problems, namely the third act feeling a little rushed but there were also so many elements I loved. Overall I would probably give it a 6/10 and if/when there's a sequel I'll be there in a flash :)

  • @barthotymous
    @barthotymous 8 місяців тому

    1:42 is this real??

  • @OzBaxter
    @OzBaxter 8 місяців тому

    Spoilers: It was The Great Intelligence. Drunk.

  • @blockydude2253
    @blockydude2253 8 місяців тому

    Paul Mgann minisode

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому

      DEAR LORD PLEASE

  • @scarameowSucksAtGaming
    @scarameowSucksAtGaming 6 місяців тому

    I saw a slight shadow move as the shutter closed, but it's incredibly quick and easy to miss, i only noticed because my eyes are trained to notice even the slightest details due to the fact a play so many video games

  • @monofolk3948
    @monofolk3948 8 місяців тому

    the true horror of the unknowing

  • @ocamkw
    @ocamkw 8 місяців тому

    i dont like this episode, feels like the plot relies on the characters being really really dumb way too much and that the threat is really weak
    6:00 that is a rock

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому

      the creature is influencing the way they act

    • @ocamkw
      @ocamkw 8 місяців тому

      @@dwfan91- i can maybe accept that but idk why it would still let them try to kill it if it actually had some power over how they thought. that explanation does contradict what some people say is great about the episode, that it shows human instinct or something, which wouldnt make sense if its not how the characters would actually act if they werent possessed by an alien

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому

      @@ocamkw that's fair enough

  • @poisonpotato1
    @poisonpotato1 8 місяців тому

    Ok 2 things doesnt make sense:
    1)
    It survived outsdie before the bus showed up right?
    Then it came inside and posessed Sky.
    But disappeared, like it was killed, when the hostess threw Sky outside the bus.
    We know it can survive on the planet outside... sooo why did it go away?
    Was it killed?
    Did it just give up?
    I feel like if it was still alive it couldve easily had gotten back in the bus.
    2) why did it need to throw the doctor over board once it stole his voice. It couldve kept quiet before anyone reakized what haopened and snuck back with the rest of the group.

    • @TheCrayon
      @TheCrayon 7 місяців тому +3

      Maybe the entity was injured because it had taken a corporeal form? And I could see its psychic powers being much stronger when it can prey on the raw emotions of fear. But I dunno, maybe its inconsistencies just are there for the plot of the episode.

  • @alwest4472
    @alwest4472 Місяць тому

    I trust rtd doesn’t really care lol

  • @jasonparadis
    @jasonparadis 6 місяців тому +1

    I was with you up until you state that you know the "intention" of something in the show and that everyone else's opinion is just wrong. I completely 100% disagree with your assessment of that scene and all I can think is that you're GenZ or close Millennial and cannot fathom that people can be that bad or they can't ramp up their emotions that quickly in a tense situation. They can. It's happened. The intention of that scene is exactly as it appeared. No pretense or preconceived intention is needed to understand exactly what that scene was trying to convey. Don't believe me? Go watch the DW Confidential on the episode and actually listed to RTD talk about the intention of that scene. Or do you know more about intention than the actual writer of the episode?

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  6 місяців тому +1

      Wait so you call me out for saying I know the intention of the scene but then you say *you* know the intention of the scene.

    • @jasonparadis
      @jasonparadis 6 місяців тому

      @@dwfan91- Nope, I said I watched RTD explain the intention of the scene which in turn fed my intention beliefs. I thought someone who does video essays for a living would have reading comprehension.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  6 місяців тому

      @@jasonparadis Woah relax buddy, I did the exact same thing. There really is no need for the random hostility, I'm sure we pretty much agree on what the episode means from a meta sense but in-universe too the creature is also psychic and burrowing into your mind. Both can be true

  • @ParakoEPC
    @ParakoEPC 8 місяців тому +1

    so this is doctor whos biggest unsolved mystery eh?
    so was Room 11…
    and Season 6B…
    and The Valeyard…
    and The Watcher…

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 місяців тому +4

      It’s almost like that’s the name of the series :00

    • @ParakoEPC
      @ParakoEPC 8 місяців тому

      @@dwfan91- bit of a bland name to be honest :P

  • @DemonicMk7
    @DemonicMk7 Місяць тому

    You explained the episode not the entity. Thumbs down