Does this directly relate to your 1 2 3 on your leader line? Could you do a video on a setup you'd use in a specific scenario and deviations based on changes such as current or the like? Thanks. If you have, I apologize as I haven't found it yet.
Thanks for video mate! I'm newbie on SPJ and trying to find balanced setup for fishing in south Florida Miami area. Would you mind to share any recommendations about balanced set up ? Would be much appreciated.
@@_user8335 the problem with a place like that is that if you do something "proper" they tell you it's wrong coz they do things different - by different I mean it's really not the standard. the standard for slow jigging is PE 2...you can stretch it out to PE 2.5 The measurement you use for the depth and jig is 1g PER METER. If you don't use PE 2/2.5 this measurement system doesn't work. Game type slow j max 300g or max 400g and an ocea jigger 2000. This is proper...as for how people are doing it there...I would rather not comment..
@TheFishingKit Thank you mate. I don't really care what people are thinking about me and my style of fishing until it's good for me and works for me. So you would suggest rod test 300-400g right? And PE #2 braid. Can you share specific brand and type of line? You mentioned YGK somehow but which one? BTW. 1g per meter ? Not per feet right? Thank you
@@_user8335 Shimano Game Type Slow J, max 400g, Shimano OJ 2000 and yes, PE 2 JAPANESE SPEC - not Daiwa Jbraid. 1g/meter...not per foot...whoever came up with 1g/foot probably failed 3rd grade math. I suggest you get in touch with me via Instragram - so I can guide you better. same username.
I mention this in a lot of my videos. There is no such thing as slow jigging with a spinning set up in water over 30m, even then it wouldn't really reach the bottom as fast as you want it to.
Thanks Kit, just the video I was looking for. Wish you did it months ago because I went out and bought 50+ jigs with various sizes and weight and haven't even caught one rock fish yet but at least I have 3-4 of each types and various weights. I use PE #0.8 (0.145mm, 25lbs) with 200g Medium profile at 200-300 ft depth, and I have a hard time staying vertical. I'll try going thinner line this year (PE 0.6 @ 0.128mm, and maybe even PE 0.4 @ 0.100mm) line to see if I can solve the heavy scope fishing in Southern California waters. What is the rule of thumb for weight? I heard 1g per foot of depth, but I also hear 1g per meter of depth. I know there is no 100% right answer, but what does your experience recommend?
@@TheFishingKit I don't have an Instagram account nor facebook nor other social media so can't PM you. Thanks for the offer to go over my gears though. This year is really my first year at slow pitch fishing, so on the water experience is probably what I need.
Great info！I am going to Maldives this summer and bought a Saltiga 15hl planning on using it for lighter jigs from 80-160g, I was going to spool it 300m of pe4 because I thought I need stronger line since I am not deep dropping anyways, might as well get more strength. They have some monster groupers from 8kg to 35kg+(probably not caught in shallow water tho, not sure). Do you think I should go for 400m of pe3 or 300m of pe4? Thanks!
Hi Kevin, on lighter jigs, I would not use thick line. PE 3 is already too thick for PE 3. for that range, I would be using PE 1.5. If I was to use PE 3 I would be using heavier jigs and a heavier system to go with it. I normally use PE 2 and max out at PE 2.5 and have one reel spooled with PE 3 to use with very heavy jigs for very deep drops.
@@kevinjiang3251 slow jigging is a finesse technique. You can fast jig and use thicker line to catch big ones. there are situational exceptions...the largest AJ caught on slow jigging with PE 2 was way more than 15kg.
@@TheFishingKit Thanks for the reply! I have a bit of experience with fast jigging but not so much slow pitch. I tried it on my last trip and instantly fell in love with it lol. I’ll go with PE2.5 then, thanks
The problem is that most of the people going for deep jigging have not yet mastered knotting. With pe1.5 to 2 it is really challenging to land a big fish over 10 kg if you don’t trust your knots. That’s why most of the anglers i met are putting pe3 or 2.5 for slow jigging. They end up doing something other than slow jigging… For slow jigging using low pe braid, you must put a PR knot on your braid/leader and a TN knot as a terminal knot. Otherwise, go for thicker lines.
I had the same question as well. Like the other day itself, I went out and bought 20+ jigs in different weight and colors but same design(slow jig). For example I bought type x jig in 40g , 50g and 60g!!! Do you think it’s worth it?
Think of it this way, you are not the one to decide on what the fish bites - what you can do is only find something they might be willing to bite. With that in mind, would you, as a person, eat a doughnut of the same flavor, only colored differently and comes in different sizes? You are limiting yourself. You can't just increase the weight and think everything will go to plan - almost always never does, so you go prepared and actually have different offerings - A slim jig moves faster, has different movement than a short wider jig, this might be the trigger the fish are looking for in that particular time...if you don't have that and the guys around you do - you can sit around and watch, a very good lesson to learn.
@@TheFishingKit ohh yeah. Make sense. Hope fishes do have the same reasoning😂. Cheers But how do you choose you weight? Like does the theory of 1g per metre works or it’s just that a slow pitch jig should always fall vertical meaning you can use a 200 g at 40m depth?
@@ACEFishing12 Fish are less complicated than people Ace. People make fishing complicated - for example, you can catch fish easily by using bait and a handline...why do you spend a lot of money trying to catch them with lead? Firstly, you need to understand what a lot of people don't really understand about Slow Jigging - it is a finesse technique developed to produce strikes when the fish are not that active (weather, tidal changes and a lot of other factors etc.) Secondly, It is a Japanese system developed with their technology and measurements - Slow jigging is heavily influenced by the rod, reel and the diameter of the line you use. So - the 1g per meter is a solid guideline...But as soon as you use anything other than Japanese spec line, things get complicated.
@@TheFishingKit damn. Thanks mate!! You’re a real one. Tight lines mate. Cheers!! Would really appreciate if I could get your number or anything for communications
I noticed the big argument about American braid breaking strain. American line rated strength is knot strength, which is perfectly sensible. 20lb line when a hook is tied on with a Palomar knot will break at the knot around 20lb. Who goes fishing without a hook or knot?? No one. An FG knot will have more strength. Japanese line will say 20 lb and break much lower. I don't see any advantage in this system. Braid is a recent invention with poor knot strength originally, about 50%. 20lb mono knotted breaks around 80% of that 20lb.
So..do you connect your hook to your braid? Coz for us, we use an FG or PR to a leader then put the jig on the leader. How do you use a palomar knot on braid for jigging? If American braid is rated at knot strength, then why is it rated via tensile strength and not labeled knot strength? You can find tests being conducted on these lines in the IGFA youtube channel, where can we view videos on these tests on knots that are not on jury rigged equipment? Where do you get your data?
What you fail to mention is that American braid label may say 6lb. test and may break at 20 pounds. Pe says 20-pound test and breaks at 20 pounds. Why the deception? Why not be transparent and say breaking strength of the line is more based upon the dimeter of the line, instead of what the label says? Do you want truth, look up the breaking strengths of the lines yourself. You may find American braids are much stronger according to their diameter than Pe lines. And don't get me started on the number of strands in the braid...American braids wipe the floor with Pe lines.
Best fishing channel on youtube. So underrated 👍
I appreciate that!
agreed
thanks for this video as I am new to jigging these are great
So much awesome information in this video. I learned a lot. Thanks!
One question. What is the minimum depth that jigging is still effective?
The guideline is - 1 gram/meter.
@@TheFishingKit thank you :)
Does this directly relate to your 1 2 3 on your leader line? Could you do a video on a setup you'd use in a specific scenario and deviations based on changes such as current or the like? Thanks. If you have, I apologize as I haven't found it yet.
its a system and if you watch all the videos, they all mesh together.
Very helpful thanks👍 ..What I name of the 280g jig in the middle ?
that's a copy of a deepliner spindle
@@TheFishingKit Thank you,, I just checked , the deepliner spindle is round and does not look the same at all.
If it's not a spindle, it would be a Spy V.
@@TheFishingKit it looks like Storm Kensaki Jig
@@e4ezzat you mean the striped one on the middle right hand side? if so, it is the Majorcraft Jigpara long slow.
What is the best mechanical jig to catch yellow tail Kingfish?
In New Zealand
There are lots!!! But try the Keitan from Hots if you can find them.
Thanks for video mate! I'm newbie on SPJ and trying to find balanced setup for fishing in south Florida Miami area. Would you mind to share any recommendations about balanced set up ?
Would be much appreciated.
Anatoli, are you fishing on your own boat or are you going to be fishing on one of the sport boats?
@TheFishingKit I'm going to fishing with fleet fishing boat which can take aboard up to 12 fisherman's. So it's quite a bit crowdy
@@_user8335 the problem with a place like that is that if you do something "proper" they tell you it's wrong coz they do things different - by different I mean it's really not the standard. the standard for slow jigging is PE 2...you can stretch it out to PE 2.5 The measurement you use for the depth and jig is 1g PER METER. If you don't use PE 2/2.5 this measurement system doesn't work. Game type slow j max 300g or max 400g and an ocea jigger 2000. This is proper...as for how people are doing it there...I would rather not comment..
@TheFishingKit Thank you mate. I don't really care what people are thinking about me and my style of fishing until it's good for me and works for me.
So you would suggest rod test 300-400g right? And PE #2 braid. Can you share specific brand and type of line? You mentioned YGK somehow but which one?
BTW. 1g per meter ? Not per feet right?
Thank you
@@_user8335 Shimano Game Type Slow J, max 400g, Shimano OJ 2000 and yes, PE 2 JAPANESE SPEC - not Daiwa Jbraid. 1g/meter...not per foot...whoever came up with 1g/foot probably failed 3rd grade math.
I suggest you get in touch with me via Instragram - so I can guide you better. same username.
Can you recommend or talk spinning reel for SLJ?
I mention this in a lot of my videos. There is no such thing as slow jigging with a spinning set up in water over 30m, even then it wouldn't really reach the bottom as fast as you want it to.
Thanks Kit, just the video I was looking for. Wish you did it months ago because I went out and bought 50+ jigs with various sizes and weight and haven't even caught one rock fish yet but at least I have 3-4 of each types and various weights. I use PE #0.8 (0.145mm, 25lbs) with 200g Medium profile at 200-300 ft depth, and I have a hard time staying vertical. I'll try going thinner line this year (PE 0.6 @ 0.128mm, and maybe even PE 0.4 @ 0.100mm) line to see if I can solve the heavy scope fishing in Southern California waters. What is the rule of thumb for weight? I heard 1g per foot of depth, but I also hear 1g per meter of depth. I know there is no 100% right answer, but what does your experience recommend?
Dude, seriously --- get in touch with me on IG. I want to go over your gear and have a better understanding.
@@TheFishingKit I don't have an Instagram account nor facebook nor other social media so can't PM you. Thanks for the offer to go over my gears though. This year is really my first year at slow pitch fishing, so on the water experience is probably what I need.
@@tdoo6024 whatsapp, viber...etc? anything that can communicate.
Great video. What Japanese line do you recommend in the PE 0.8 range?
Quite a few good ones out there - ygk has some that are priced well too. Duel just came out with some that are very very good as well.
Great explanation
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Hello kit nice to see this new video thank you very much for this jig video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Do they make large profile jigs for shallow water?
You mean big light jigs? Not really, but there are smaller jigs that weight more made of tungsten.
Look up zinc jigs, they work really well.
@@1V2N1V2 Lead is denser and heavier than zinc. If I want lighter jigs for more action, I would look at aluminum more than zinc.
Can I still effectively use these slow jigs if I have a fast jigging rod?
The rods are built differently. Slow jigging rods are thinner than fast jigging rods.
which jig has the blood pattern
That's a Deepliner Slow Skip CX copy
Great info！I am going to Maldives this summer and bought a Saltiga 15hl planning on using it for lighter jigs from 80-160g, I was going to spool it 300m of pe4 because I thought I need stronger line since I am not deep dropping anyways, might as well get more strength. They have some monster groupers from 8kg to 35kg+(probably not caught in shallow water tho, not sure). Do you think I should go for 400m of pe3 or 300m of pe4? Thanks!
Hi Kevin, on lighter jigs, I would not use thick line. PE 3 is already too thick for PE 3. for that range, I would be using PE 1.5. If I was to use PE 3 I would be using heavier jigs and a heavier system to go with it. I normally use PE 2 and max out at PE 2.5 and have one reel spooled with PE 3 to use with very heavy jigs for very deep drops.
@@TheFishingKit Gotcha, do you think PE 2 or 2.5 would be enough to pull a 15kg class grouper/snapper and stop it from getting into a rock?
@@kevinjiang3251 slow jigging is a finesse technique. You can fast jig and use thicker line to catch big ones. there are situational exceptions...the largest AJ caught on slow jigging with PE 2 was way more than 15kg.
@@TheFishingKit Thanks for the reply! I have a bit of experience with fast jigging but not so much slow pitch. I tried it on my last trip and instantly fell in love with it lol. I’ll go with PE2.5 then, thanks
The problem is that most of the people going for deep jigging have not yet mastered knotting. With pe1.5 to 2 it is really challenging to land a big fish over 10 kg if you don’t trust your knots. That’s why most of the anglers i met are putting pe3 or 2.5 for slow jigging. They end up doing something other than slow jigging…
For slow jigging using low pe braid, you must put a PR knot on your braid/leader and a TN knot as a terminal knot. Otherwise, go for thicker lines.
I had the same question as well. Like the other day itself, I went out and bought 20+ jigs in different weight and colors but same design(slow jig). For example I bought type x jig in 40g , 50g and 60g!!! Do you think it’s worth it?
Think of it this way, you are not the one to decide on what the fish bites - what you can do is only find something they might be willing to bite. With that in mind, would you, as a person, eat a doughnut of the same flavor, only colored differently and comes in different sizes?
You are limiting yourself.
You can't just increase the weight and think everything will go to plan - almost always never does, so you go prepared and actually have different offerings - A slim jig moves faster, has different movement than a short wider jig, this might be the trigger the fish are looking for in that particular time...if you don't have that and the guys around you do - you can sit around and watch, a very good lesson to learn.
@@TheFishingKit ohh yeah. Make sense. Hope fishes do have the same reasoning😂. Cheers
But how do you choose you weight? Like does the theory of 1g per metre works or it’s just that a slow pitch jig should always fall vertical meaning you can use a 200 g at 40m depth?
@@ACEFishing12 Fish are less complicated than people Ace. People make fishing complicated - for example, you can catch fish easily by using bait and a handline...why do you spend a lot of money trying to catch them with lead?
Firstly, you need to understand what a lot of people don't really understand about Slow Jigging - it is a finesse technique developed to produce strikes when the fish are not that active (weather, tidal changes and a lot of other factors etc.) Secondly, It is a Japanese system developed with their technology and measurements - Slow jigging is heavily influenced by the rod, reel and the diameter of the line you use. So - the 1g per meter is a solid guideline...But as soon as you use anything other than Japanese spec line, things get complicated.
@@TheFishingKit damn. Thanks mate!! You’re a real one. Tight lines mate. Cheers!! Would really appreciate if I could get your number or anything for communications
@@ACEFishing12 same username on IG
Kit I didn't know that metal jigs Glow
Its the paint :)
@@TheFishingKithello kit O okay thank you very much happy fishing🎣 Sunday
Power master
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so simple and took 18 minutes
Some people are simple minded and they get past 50 years old.
I noticed the big argument about American braid breaking strain.
American line rated strength is knot strength, which is perfectly sensible.
20lb line when a hook is tied on with a Palomar knot will break at the knot around 20lb.
Who goes fishing without a hook or knot??
No one.
An FG knot will have more strength.
Japanese line will say 20 lb and break much lower.
I don't see any advantage in this system.
Braid is a recent invention with poor knot strength originally,
about 50%.
20lb mono knotted breaks around 80% of that 20lb.
So..do you connect your hook to your braid? Coz for us, we use an FG or PR to a leader then put the jig on the leader. How do you use a palomar knot on braid for jigging?
If American braid is rated at knot strength, then why is it rated via tensile strength and not labeled knot strength?
You can find tests being conducted on these lines in the IGFA youtube channel, where can we view videos on these tests on knots that are not on jury rigged equipment? Where do you get your data?
Overcoplicated
you can use a sinker and put hooks on it. done deal.
What you fail to mention is that American braid label may say 6lb. test and may break at 20 pounds. Pe says 20-pound test and breaks at 20 pounds. Why the deception? Why not be transparent and say breaking strength of the line is more based upon the dimeter of the line, instead of what the label says? Do you want truth, look up the breaking strengths of the lines yourself. You may find American braids are much stronger according to their diameter than Pe lines. And don't get me started on the number of strands in the braid...American braids wipe the floor with Pe lines.
Andrew - it is something American manufacturers started but never really explained. Also, I have made videos mentioning this...a lot actually.
@@TheFishingKit Why not in this video?
@@andrewrollins4898 because at this point, I have mentioned it a lot of times already, and look at the topic...it's not about lines is it?
@@andrejkt2631 Tuf Line is good example.
@@andrejkt2631 Is it impossible for you to do your own homework?