The thing about the knife that stab Zola can mean something....or not. It's a game where 4 crackheads wipe out 2,000 enemies a mission run and we stand next to a tree of Nurgle without so much as the sniffles.
"It used ta give me some fierce sniffles, sah! Would sneeze all ovah the valk- vakyr- dropship! That 'elped me convince 'em ta give me a propah Krieg mask! Though I forget ta take it off to sneeze sumtimes..."
In one of the recent zola diaries, she does mention that the twins were highborn, so as someone growing up in the torrent (a shithole even by hive standards) she hates them for that alone. Though that does feel a bit broad a reason for what feels quite personal. I would assume she knew the man who would become wulfer.
She does know Wolfer before and feels betrayed by him for some reason. The cult of Admonition (reprisal) is an admonition towards the Nobels, who left the lower tiers of Atoma to rot and even set them against the other houses in order to seize power. It makes Zola's hate for the Twins justified in her own eyes, but also would make her sympathetic to the cause of the Cult of Admonition. Interesting!
Bet you any money she's formerly of the Moebian 6th. Whether she was out before all this started or the whistle-blower on this whole shebang I don't know, but: a) She's a local, with extensive knowledge of the seedier parts of the hive, b) She seems familiar with not just Wolfer, but the Karnak twins (if only by reputation) c) Bit of a stretch, but her attire, while similar to ours, doesn't share our colours. If anything, it's what the 6th would have looked like pre-betrayal
commanding a rogue trader and her ship like this is a big burden on her profits. grendyl must have promised a sweet prize to brahms for her to put up with this. if the noble houses have to be liquidated she might have a chance to step in or assign an heir of hers to rule.
That's more than likely, and it doesn't have to her heir even. With the shitstorm that is happening on the planet I would not be surprised if the position of the planetary governor or at very least a governor of the hive city was up for grabs..
The cult of admonition seems to have a noble backer, and that this entire shitshow was a power play of the nobles that went out of control, so yeah, the nobles are getting the axe, and since this is 40k, it means new nobles to replace them
@@daswordofgork9823 There are always levels to shit. He can't quite force a rogue trader like Brahms, but refusing would be a very bad idea on the long run. And something that some inquisitors forget, is that no amount of authority will make you bulletproof, so it's always a good idea to mix carrots with the sticks
Playing Darktide and Owlcat's CRPG Rogue Trader simultaneously is a blast (and yes I did spot you drop Jae in there early on). There are some parallels in these games that are really fun. It seems to me like the balance of power between Rogue Traders and the Inquisition really lies on where they're standing when they're having the conversation. If they're out on the fringes of space among the planets the Rogue Trader controls, they seem to be pretty reverent of the warrant signed in blood by the Emperor himself. If the Rogue Trader is wandering through Imperium space they seem pretty willing to commandeer their operation for a prolonged assault on Atoma. Then again, this is really just up to whoever is writing the current video game/book/whatever, isn't it? :)
Well said! I do think that the power of a reputable Rogue Trader and Inquisitor can be very much on par with one another in the right circumstances - and I think both parties would be wise to respect each other's authority and skillsets
Tin Foil Theory: Zola was actually a member of the Moebian 6th (Pre-Chaos). Possibly imprisoned for insubordination before Grendyl saw something within here and recruited her into the inquisition.
I'm furthermore suspecting that she's not a traitor YET, but is turning into one. The weapons of nurgle always carry the taint of chaos with them and like Chimp explained, it's kinda fishy how quickly she recovered. In addition to that, in the Orthus offensive dialogue, she told Rannick she wanted to know something specific about wolfer.. and as we know, the fall of the Moebian 6th didn't come sudden. It came creepingly. When they returned, they didn't just came in like "hurr durr, worship nurgle ya gits" but announced they wanna "spread the truth". Does Zola want to know "their truth"? Did the bladewound hint something to her?
I never even thought about the fact that the blade Zola gets stabbed by could have been infected. I could imagine that she would make a pact with ol Granpappy to make it out alive... Like you said, even primarchs almost die from nurgle minion weapons, its all nasty stuff
I would say that who holds true power depends on the current situation, if the Mourningstar is located at a point where no easy access and communication to the wider imperium is to be had then the Rogue Trader is in power, if vice-versa it is the Inquistor who has power. The power of the inquisition lies in it's ability to commander any imperium forces (except for the custodes) whereas the power of the Rogue traders lies in their ability to operate independently of them.
Same. Sometimes you’ll hear him talk during the assassination of a traitor captain and he mentions he was “abandoned in the field”. I’d also like to know who’s leading the Cult.
We do know the 6th was responsible for holding back the “Darktide,” which is the tide of heresy/xenos that plagues this sector, so it’s implied that their long years of service corrupted them, and once the Cult of Admonition pops up on Tertium, they decide to throw their lot in with them and, in turn, Nurgle.
There's been speculation that the cult of admonition poisoned the 6th with their tainted stims, and in their sickness they cried out for anyone to help. And grandpa nurgle answered.
Facing horrors of the warp practically daily changes the man (Mobian 6th are veterans of Fringe wars in Mobian domain, facing combination of xenos and chaos regularly, THE darktide). Being meet with ignorance and indifference from fellow countrymen/populus of the home planet pushes further to heresy (They were rotated from frontlines back to Atoma prime and saw the contrast between their daily life and absolute ignorance of the chaos or everything they faced)
As someone who plays pretty much every day, I appreciate videos like this because even though this might make a lot of people mad, I’ve skipped pretty much every cutscene lol
I appreciate the lore video on this game! Especially because it can be so easy to miss or ignore while playing. I’m usually too busy staying alive to listen to what all the npcs are saying to each other lol
@@danielbont2331 what like the inquisition has one on payroll? or do they just summon them when shit hits the fan? because with the amount of psychers rouge traders employ sending in a squad hoping one pops is a genuine strategy when fleeing other ships.
I really like that clip of Wolfer, the leader of the Moebian 6th and main antagonist of the game, kneeling before a random cultist squad leader. The rest of the game establishes pretty explicitly that the 6th are the real threat here, they're the ones in charge of this insurrection, and they are essentially training and arming the dregs to use them as disposable proxy fighters. Interesting, then, to see the 6th feigning subservience to the Admonition as if they're the ones following orders, not giving them.
They are, in fact, the ones following orders. In the latest mission added a leader in the Cult of Admonition chews out Wolfer for his constant failures and all he can do is grumble and complain, even Wolfer's people are beginning to abandon him for the cult, starting with Rinda Karnak, former liutenant of Wolfer, now the "Herald of Admonition"
@ yep, seems Wolfer perhaps bit off more than he could chew allying himself with Admonition. or perhaps the balance of power has shifted over the course of the war due to the extent to which the Rejects have been breaking all his toys.
very nice. one you left out was the enginseer, in the last carnival mission. From the dialogue I think he is one of Brahms that hadron recruited to help.
Yeah, I was wondering why Zola's insubordination only resulted in a stern talking to, rather than execution on the spot or at least be interrogated within an inch of a her life. If she does have Grendyl's direct favor, it would make sense for Rannik to go easy on her.
Always had a theory that Wolfer and Zola are siblings and the retaking of Atoma is taking longer than it should perhaps of deeper chaos corruption. Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if there was a straight up Deamon in the lower levels of Tertium. The voice lines of the stims having likely been there since before the initial corruption outbreak is also an interesting question.
I dont know if it was said down here already, but don'f forget the Psyker dialog highlighting Zolas split personality that she is not even aware of. Wich might hint at a genestealer cult deep down in the hive.
Obviously Sefoni is the mind behind everything. The moment she wakes up physically everybody will cease to exist as it's revealed it was all a dream. On a less factitious note one could imagine Zola is simply more resilient since she grew up in the nastiness of the torrent. She'd certainly be familiar with filth, of course this and being a consumate survivor aswell would be enough to draw the gaze of nurgle in its own right.
I think Grendyl references an already established character in Warhammer lore (grendal). Among other things, his gender and full name (Castus Grendal) are known: The guy who cried Grendal, a dark heresy. Also the Shipmistress / rogue trader has absolutely no choice but to submit to the authority of any inquisitor at any time for any reason: "No one, except the Emperor himself, is beyond the scrutiny of the Inquisition".
There has to be something in it for Brahms as yes on paper Rogue Traders have to obey an Inquisitor, Grendyl is so distant and Rogue Traders so independent that all Brahms has to do to get out of it is go to one of Grendyl's rivals. So I feel there must be something in it for her, maybe a guaranteed exclusive contract with Atoma or a strong chance to be installed as planetary governor by Inquisitor Grendyl
@@dystopianchimp Dialogue does seem to imply it may be the fact she either owes a debt to Grendyl or that Grendyl knows the right kind of secrets about Brahms to blackmail her into his service. Pretty much every point of dialogue from Brahms makes it fairly clear she isn't at Atoma Prime willingly. Would make it a very similar set of circumstances as to how Lord Calcazar was able to subordinate Lord Captain Theodora in the Rogue Trader RPG.
In regards to Zola's stabbing for me always more unsettling was that she has lost thousands of prison ships - one for each reject - and still is so highly ranked ;-)
it would have been neat if subfactions were a thing on the ship and you would earn points for them dependant on who is the mission announcer unlocking certain weapon skins or cosmetics
The machinator sounds like the easiest possible pawn for Tzeentch to dupe, since they already operate along his preferred lines. It’s like they built the web for Him already.
Well if there’s one thing if Brahms kicks the warparty off the Morningstar grendyls gonna believe Brahms before he believes the warparty after all of howlettes antics
I thought the lady who get shot then turned into a Servitor was the traitor? It could also be possible based on what the Psykers have said about Zola ("Having an argument with herself without realizing it") there is something more extra-normal happening that might not necessarily have anything to do with The Cult of Admonition or the Moebian Sixth. What with the Water Barons that existed in The Torrent (before Rodin became the Ragged King), their corpses look oddly bald like Genestealers, and the colors + their faction symbol alone. I guess maybe Zola is a traitor, but not a heretic, maybe a genestealer mutant. It would explain why Grendyl interacts with her more directly, but also explain Rannick's immense difficulty locating a traitor if the traitor in question is not the lady that gets shot during the cutscene you get at level 30.
I think that the now-servitor lady very well could have been 'a' traitor - but whether or not she is 'the' traitor is another question. Something more complex could be going on behind the scenes as well - i.e. she was framed by the real / stronger traitor or was sacrificed by someone else to maintain their own secrecy. But yeah, as far as we know for sure at this stage - the traitor has been identified and dealt with
@@tanburanbu yeah, she was all smiles and giggles while the gun was on you, thinking she framed it all perfectly, but the entire game you had interacted with the other parties...they knew you got shit done, and they were already watching the player like a hawk. Then she it turned on her, she panicked and looked shocked/betrayed, then ran
Watching this video makes me wonder something genuinely. Which of these...colorful array of characters actually care the most about the rejects? Granted I know none of them care about us to that such degree but at the very least, who's overall the least harsh towards them? Could it be Zola herself? As she is overseeing their operations? Morrow as he too is a soldier and knows the value of one, even if they are rejects? Or surprisingly Rannick as he was quick to try and get the rejects out of what he knew was a trap set by the karnack twins rather than just let them die as he knows they are expendable? Questions like this always got me fascinated because I get very passionate about lore and stuff.
Who is in charge? Grendyl, easy. Inquisition has supremacy of will - inquisitors can even revoke writs of trade should enough evidence, or a powerful enough inquisitor, justify it. Take Inquisitor: Martyr, the Rogue Trader there is a bit different due to her house being under scrutiny for heresy, but she is absolutely under the thumb of the inquisitor. People like Brahms, or a Space Marine Chapter Master, can theoretically refuse the "requests" of Inquisitors, but it is not a good idea. So yeah, who holds the true power? Grendyl, and since he is not present, arguably Rannick. In a practical sense of power you could argue that, yeah, if Brahms and company really wanted to remove them from the ship - by force if necessary - they could. They'd just likely be branded traitors and hunted down as a result. If they managed to kill the part of the warband on the ship, then it'd just delay retribution that bit longer. Even if the ship jumped, and escaped, the Writ of Trade would be nullified for Brahms individually at least, and maybe her entire house would be investigated or dissolved at the most.
I would like to adress the point about Zola being stabbed and its comparison with Jagatai situation. Zola wasn't stabbed with anything like Death Guard's plague sword. The Deathguard were carrying weapons blessed by Nurgle itself, infused with the most horrible diseases ever created. Zola was stabbed, as it was mentioned in the video, with poopy knife. I don't think that it was blessed or modified in any way more advanced than being pooped on. Even though it is still unpleasant and might give you a nasty infection, with Imperium's medicinal level (which is horrifoengly good to be frank) it is not a threat to life and can be cured if not over a day, then over several weeks.
You could be right! Though I would say that beyond the poopy nature of the knife, the Moebian 6th are now devout followers of Nurgle and would most certainly work towards having their weapons (knives included) blessed by the god - especially if the Admonition is involved in anyway. They clearly have a strong connection to Nurgle and so I don't think it is a stretch to say they would have Warp imbued / infused blades in use across the regiment
@@dystopianchimp then again - this warp infusion won't be anywhere that strong as it was back then on Terra. Those were most likely champions of the dead guard fighting Jaghatai. So they were the elite of the elite - the most beloved by Nurgle, during final battle. So their infusions would have been over the top relic level. In case of Zola's poopy knife - it is blessed by some random cultists on a backwater planet and given to a random militarum hereticus member. It might carry some warp charge indeed, but I think that Nurgle is more occupied with Mortarion fighting Guilliman at the moment of game's story to give any reasonable blessing to a random cultist. And moreover - although we hear of "witches" through Wolfer's comms, we can't really see any effect of them on the battlefield (apart from blessed units who are not that comparitevly dangerous, just a little tougher than usual). And I don't think it was a blessed blade, since nothing was glowing with green. And - to finish it up - she was surrounded by Moebian corpses - not admonitionist's. And, judging from how Moebians behaved in the cutscene - they were more of a renegade regiment, than cultists. They implied military strategies and didn't seem to use a lot of magic or occult (apart from pox-walker meat shield). So they are not very likely to devout recources and time into blessing each blade.
Though Zola's resistance is also nowhere near that of the Khan's - so the power scale really evens out imo. Strong Nurgle charged blade = almost dead Primarch. Weaker Nurgle charged blade = totally fine human? @@yukinoved4260
Why do so many assume Brahms is at odds with Grendyl or does not like the warband on her ship? Going from her narration of the opening cinematic she seems to be ride or die for the imperium and ordo hereticus and completely agrees that hives like Tertium can't be allowed to fall. I have not seen anything that really points to Brahms even being mad for her ship getting taken over as she seems to owe Grendyl for something in the past.
Grendyl. Grendel. Grendel is a member of “Cain’s clan, whom the creator had outlawed / and condemned as outcasts.” (106-107 fragmented excerpt attributed to 'Beuwolf', a story written long ago by W. Shakespire, 2nd M. dramaturge) It is so simple you missed it, and that is why he simply shows you his true bald heretic face in the beginning. Grendyl is -A Word Bearer, Grendel is Kor- *-Ack-*
When you talk about the Shipmistress, Commodore Hallowette is mentioned as part of the rogue trader crew. But later when discussing the members of the warband, you say Hallowette is Morrow's second in command. Was this a mistake or can she be both?
And now... Random Commissar: I'm in charge now! Look lively, don't you dare disappoint me! *Bla bla bla bla* I really blame the weakness of Interrogator Rannick who projects 0 authority, charisma, fear, anything. That or... Fatshark's writing.
Hey mate - yep @robowolfzane6666 is correct for the head piece! The rest of the set is from the "Torveth, Butcher of the Syndian Reach" bundle that is actually still in rotation at the shop
It’s simple, Interrogator Rannick is in charge. The in game dialog points it out. Rannick is often referred to as “The Boss” amongst other nods to his authority. Not to mention at the end of the “Campaign”. All other characters are seen standing in attention to Rannick’s orders. That is a dead give away.
I think Rannick is definitely in charge as far as we, the rejects, are concerned. Though in reality Grendyl is pulling the strings - but with Brahms also holding many many cards
Zolas behavior during the Karnak twins, really sort of gives the vibes that Rannik knows something about her, and this was as much a test of her as it was for the player. He casually dismisses her, and just tells the players to make it out alive...normally you can hear all voix transmissions between characters, but Rannik calls on Masozi to remove the team, but you never hear her reply...he goes "oh well, it seems flights are not available...well survive, good luck" I think Rannik is the traitor. I think he set up Zola with the information about the Karnak twins, using her as a means of getting rid of the team and also removing her from authority. Rannik also casually executes the traitor when you get to level 30, the traitor looks shocked as if she had been betrayed, she didn't even try to argue her innocence. I think rannik offed her because she was such a sloppy servant, always doing sloppy crap to get caught and leaving a trail right back to him.... Rannick is the traitor.
I think it's more likely Rannick is worried about his position, instead of being a traitor. Plus I think it's darker than way, that he's sabotaging the mission not because he has changed sides but because he's a petty asshole.
Is there an inquisitor? Then they're in charge. However, a smart inquisitor will take care not to unnecessarily burn bridges. And given how Rannick is(for someone who's an inquisitors right hand and an interrogator to have his disposition is rare)Grendyl might be one of the better inquisitors.
I would very much appreciate if you would credit me for the art of mine you are using on your video. You credited the music´s author so please do the right thing with visual art as well. Thank you very much!
Note, if you look at the official "Chain of command" the Rogue Trader holds relatively low authority when compared to virtually every official Imperial faction. They only wield huge authority they enjoy in uncolonized sectors of the galaxy, where they get to do essentially whatever they physically can do, to the civilizations they come across. Once the official Imperial forces show up though, they only have political favors and bribery to fall back on, not actual authority.
Let's just say... this is all *without* Grendel. Once he shows up all bets are off. Everyone will bemd the knee to him and what he says or he can simply shoot them
Ok a not about Rouge Traders, they have just enough power if not more so then the Inquisition. An Inquisitor can not force a Rouge Trader to do anything, they can however offer them something they want.
I think Grendyl is just a made up figure. The real Inquisitor is among us right from the start of this story. Who is it? I dont' know. But I have a feeling we'll meet him/her very soon.
Grendyll was only able to assume control of the ship due to his political tacts. Not because he has authority of Brahms, could be wrong though. Thats why Inquisition has to resort to using convicts instead of Brahms being forced to deploy her own military
Of course the inquisitor. Inquisition are agents of the Imperium, given authorities to do whatever it takes to investigate and uprooting enemies. They are basically lords. While Rogue Traders are just a bunch of sailors sponsored either by their noble house or straight up High Lords. Traders can say a lot of shit to Inquistor asking for support but Inquisitor still has higher authorities. They are basically taxis to Inquisitors. That said, shall a situation went sour, they will leave the Inquisitor if the problem are not to their benefit. Unless the Inquisitor ordered otherwise. If the Trader still does it, than he betrayed the Inquisitor, and should expect some shitstorm coming
rogue traders are not "just a bunch of sailors". They have a literal contract from the emperor themselves saying they can do whatever the fuck they want outside of the Imperium. That's a very big deal considering the Emperor is considered tantamount to god. They themselves are usually nobles with dozens of planets to their name, and Rogue Traders don't come from other Noble families, but rather dedicated Rogue Trader houses. Basically: Rogue Traders are second ONLY to the Inquisition, and even then, they can get away with telling them to f off in certain cases.
Wrong. Rogue traders has literally planets with armies behind them, with fleets, can do whatever they want. the INQ Outside in the kronus they are just retinue of people while Rouge traders can wage war againts xenos or anybody in the expanse. The inquisition can request help and capital REQUEST, even can request space marine chapters but they can say fck off. Play the new CRPG Rogue Trader, perfectly encapsulates what RG can do or capable. You can meet acolyte and a proper inquisitor aswell. Can tell them to fckoff ;)
Really? You think Grendel is real/alive? Because the vibe I get from the Inquisitorial warband is that there is no Grendel or if there ever was, he died at some point. And his former entourage are trying to hide this.
Just remember, no matter how beseiged by Chaos, aliens and rebels alike, the Imperium is always its own biggest enemy. It is literally represented by a two-headed eagle looking in different directions.
The thing about the knife that stab Zola can mean something....or not. It's a game where 4 crackheads wipe out 2,000 enemies a mission run and we stand next to a tree of Nurgle without so much as the sniffles.
"It used ta give me some fierce sniffles, sah! Would sneeze all ovah the valk- vakyr- dropship! That 'elped me convince 'em ta give me a propah Krieg mask! Though I forget ta take it off to sneeze sumtimes..."
“I dare one of you to lick it”
Truly, we have the God-Emperor's protection.
More than we know.
My contempt for the archenemy shielded me.
@@Helman114 "Hear that beloved? He is talking about you."
In one of the recent zola diaries, she does mention that the twins were highborn, so as someone growing up in the torrent (a shithole even by hive standards) she hates them for that alone. Though that does feel a bit broad a reason for what feels quite personal. I would assume she knew the man who would become wulfer.
She does know Wolfer before and feels betrayed by him for some reason. The cult of Admonition (reprisal) is an admonition towards the Nobels, who left the lower tiers of Atoma to rot and even set them against the other houses in order to seize power.
It makes Zola's hate for the Twins justified in her own eyes, but also would make her sympathetic to the cause of the Cult of Admonition.
Interesting!
Bet you any money she's formerly of the Moebian 6th.
Whether she was out before all this started or the whistle-blower on this whole shebang I don't know, but:
a) She's a local, with extensive knowledge of the seedier parts of the hive,
b) She seems familiar with not just Wolfer, but the Karnak twins (if only by reputation)
c) Bit of a stretch, but her attire, while similar to ours, doesn't share our colours. If anything, it's what the 6th would have looked like pre-betrayal
commanding a rogue trader and her ship like this is a big burden on her profits. grendyl must have promised a sweet prize to brahms for her to put up with this. if the noble houses have to be liquidated she might have a chance to step in or assign an heir of hers to rule.
That's more than likely, and it doesn't have to her heir even. With the shitstorm that is happening on the planet I would not be surprised if the position of the planetary governor or at very least a governor of the hive city was up for grabs..
The cult of admonition seems to have a noble backer, and that this entire shitshow was a power play of the nobles that went out of control, so yeah, the nobles are getting the axe, and since this is 40k, it means new nobles to replace them
Ooh I very much like this theory
Couldn’t Grendyl just say, “I am an inquisitor, give me your sh!t”
@@daswordofgork9823 There are always levels to shit. He can't quite force a rogue trader like Brahms, but refusing would be a very bad idea on the long run.
And something that some inquisitors forget, is that no amount of authority will make you bulletproof, so it's always a good idea to mix carrots with the sticks
Been playing nothing but Darktide for the past week, so this is well appreciated.
Playing Darktide and Owlcat's CRPG Rogue Trader simultaneously is a blast (and yes I did spot you drop Jae in there early on). There are some parallels in these games that are really fun.
It seems to me like the balance of power between Rogue Traders and the Inquisition really lies on where they're standing when they're having the conversation. If they're out on the fringes of space among the planets the Rogue Trader controls, they seem to be pretty reverent of the warrant signed in blood by the Emperor himself. If the Rogue Trader is wandering through Imperium space they seem pretty willing to commandeer their operation for a prolonged assault on Atoma. Then again, this is really just up to whoever is writing the current video game/book/whatever, isn't it? :)
Well said! I do think that the power of a reputable Rogue Trader and Inquisitor can be very much on par with one another in the right circumstances - and I think both parties would be wise to respect each other's authority and skillsets
Tin Foil Theory: Zola was actually a member of the Moebian 6th (Pre-Chaos). Possibly imprisoned for insubordination before Grendyl saw something within here and recruited her into the inquisition.
Could be onto something here!
I'm furthermore suspecting that she's not a traitor YET, but is turning into one. The weapons of nurgle always carry the taint of chaos with them and like Chimp explained, it's kinda fishy how quickly she recovered. In addition to that, in the Orthus offensive dialogue, she told Rannick she wanted to know something specific about wolfer..
and as we know, the fall of the Moebian 6th didn't come sudden. It came creepingly. When they returned, they didn't just came in like "hurr durr, worship nurgle ya gits" but announced they wanna "spread the truth". Does Zola want to know "their truth"? Did the bladewound hint something to her?
I never even thought about the fact that the blade Zola gets stabbed by could have been infected. I could imagine that she would make a pact with ol Granpappy to make it out alive... Like you said, even primarchs almost die from nurgle minion weapons, its all nasty stuff
Well said. Horus Lupercal, the greatest Traitor in the history of Mankind, turned to Chaos after being stabbed by one of Nurgle's Daemonblades.
Either that, or the kind of immune system you build up from living your whole life in the Torrent is just something else.
I would say that who holds true power depends on the current situation, if the Mourningstar is located at a point where no easy access and communication to the wider imperium is to be had then the Rogue Trader is in power, if vice-versa it is the Inquistor who has power.
The power of the inquisition lies in it's ability to commander any imperium forces (except for the custodes) whereas the power of the Rogue traders lies in their ability to operate independently of them.
Great point mate
I want to know more of Captain Wolfer. What caused him and the 6th to fall to chaos and treason? Who is he and was before his fall?
Same. Sometimes you’ll hear him talk during the assassination of a traitor captain and he mentions he was “abandoned in the field”.
I’d also like to know who’s leading the Cult.
We do know the 6th was responsible for holding back the “Darktide,” which is the tide of heresy/xenos that plagues this sector, so it’s implied that their long years of service corrupted them, and once the Cult of Admonition pops up on Tertium, they decide to throw their lot in with them and, in turn, Nurgle.
There's been speculation that the cult of admonition poisoned the 6th with their tainted stims, and in their sickness they cried out for anyone to help. And grandpa nurgle answered.
Yea itd be really cool to get some story to the game. They got THE BEST Black Library author to write the story and then told us none of it.
Facing horrors of the warp practically daily changes the man (Mobian 6th are veterans of Fringe wars in Mobian domain, facing combination of xenos and chaos regularly, THE darktide). Being meet with ignorance and indifference from fellow countrymen/populus of the home planet pushes further to heresy (They were rotated from frontlines back to Atoma prime and saw the contrast between their daily life and absolute ignorance of the chaos or everything they faced)
As someone who plays pretty much every day, I appreciate videos like this because even though this might make a lot of people mad, I’ve skipped pretty much every cutscene lol
I appreciate the lore video on this game! Especially because it can be so easy to miss or ignore while playing. I’m usually too busy staying alive to listen to what all the npcs are saying to each other lol
My question is, if those cosmetics are actual characters/soldiers helping in this operation, then how connected is Grendyl?
Inquisitors are allowed to take what they please with little to no explanation by Inquisitorial power.
hence why most inquisitors have the most heretical entourage and equipment known to the imperium of man
@@HonorEggs the rouge traders would like a word
@janefkrbtt
I’m sorry, are any rogue traders walking around with a demon host?
@@danielbont2331 what like the inquisition has one on payroll? or do they just summon them when shit hits the fan? because with the amount of psychers rouge traders employ sending in a squad hoping one pops is a genuine strategy when fleeing other ships.
I really like that clip of Wolfer, the leader of the Moebian 6th and main antagonist of the game, kneeling before a random cultist squad leader. The rest of the game establishes pretty explicitly that the 6th are the real threat here, they're the ones in charge of this insurrection, and they are essentially training and arming the dregs to use them as disposable proxy fighters. Interesting, then, to see the 6th feigning subservience to the Admonition as if they're the ones following orders, not giving them.
They are, in fact, the ones following orders. In the latest mission added a leader in the Cult of Admonition chews out Wolfer for his constant failures and all he can do is grumble and complain, even Wolfer's people are beginning to abandon him for the cult, starting with Rinda Karnak, former liutenant of Wolfer, now the "Herald of Admonition"
@ yep, seems Wolfer perhaps bit off more than he could chew allying himself with Admonition. or perhaps the balance of power has shifted over the course of the war due to the extent to which the Rejects have been breaking all his toys.
very nice. one you left out was the enginseer, in the last carnival mission. From the dialogue I think he is one of Brahms that hadron recruited to help.
Ogryns, no contest. Everyone loves ogryns, defend them at all costs.
Is no one acknowledging the ogryn called this 19:45
nearly in tears
Yeah, I was wondering why Zola's insubordination only resulted in a stern talking to, rather than execution on the spot or at least be interrogated within an inch of a her life.
If she does have Grendyl's direct favor, it would make sense for Rannik to go easy on her.
Ship mistress Brahm is the 'true power' because i couldnt imagine calling Grendyl or Rannick 'Mommy' or asking them to spit on me
Surely Hadron is in charge if we are going by this criteria
I prefer Dukane
Love this context! Thank you!
Always had a theory that Wolfer and Zola are siblings and the retaking of Atoma is taking longer than it should perhaps of deeper chaos corruption. Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if there was a straight up Deamon in the lower levels of Tertium. The voice lines of the stims having likely been there since before the initial corruption outbreak is also an interesting question.
Please do more darktide stuff these are my favourite videos about my favourite game! Thank you for this btw ❤
An easier synopsis of a Rogue Trader is the often overlooked and likely more historically accurate (when applied) role/title of Privateer.
Amazing video keep up these darktide lore vids! The questioning of zola at the end is very fascinating and fun to explore
Thanks mate! More always on the way
I dont know if it was said down here already, but don'f forget the Psyker dialog highlighting Zolas split personality that she is not even aware of. Wich might hint at a genestealer cult deep down in the hive.
Obviously Sefoni is the mind behind everything. The moment she wakes up physically everybody will cease to exist as it's revealed it was all a dream.
On a less factitious note one could imagine Zola is simply more resilient since she grew up in the nastiness of the torrent. She'd certainly be familiar with filth, of course this and being a consumate survivor aswell would be enough to draw the gaze of nurgle in its own right.
I think Grendyl references an already established character in Warhammer lore (grendal). Among other things, his gender and full name (Castus Grendal) are known: The guy who cried Grendal, a dark heresy. Also the Shipmistress / rogue trader has absolutely no choice but to submit to the authority of any inquisitor at any time for any reason: "No one, except the Emperor himself, is beyond the scrutiny of the Inquisition".
Interesting! Though I think Castus was retconned officially?
There has to be something in it for Brahms as yes on paper Rogue Traders have to obey an Inquisitor, Grendyl is so distant and Rogue Traders so independent that all Brahms has to do to get out of it is go to one of Grendyl's rivals. So I feel there must be something in it for her, maybe a guaranteed exclusive contract with Atoma or a strong chance to be installed as planetary governor by Inquisitor Grendyl
Yeah I think you are definitely onto something there - or she simply owes Grendyl a HUGE debt @@klaykid117
@@dystopianchimp Dialogue does seem to imply it may be the fact she either owes a debt to Grendyl or that Grendyl knows the right kind of secrets about Brahms to blackmail her into his service. Pretty much every point of dialogue from Brahms makes it fairly clear she isn't at Atoma Prime willingly. Would make it a very similar set of circumstances as to how Lord Calcazar was able to subordinate Lord Captain Theodora in the Rogue Trader RPG.
"Grendal ensures compliance with an intricate and delicate web of..."
Ogryns: "PERMISSION TO VOLUNTEER TO PLEDGE UN-CON-DITIO-NAL LOYALTY, SAH!!"
Amazing vid love lore and What the song in background
i think zolas insubordination also hints to somekind of traitor reveal later on
4:21 Alpharius is that you ?
In regards to Zola's stabbing for me always more unsettling was that she has lost thousands of prison ships - one for each reject - and still is so highly ranked ;-)
2:33 There is a definite lack of Hi-Viz in The Imperium 😂
it would have been neat if subfactions were a thing on the ship and you would earn points for them dependant on who is the mission announcer unlocking certain weapon skins or cosmetics
The machinator sounds like the easiest possible pawn for Tzeentch to dupe, since they already operate along his preferred lines. It’s like they built the web for Him already.
I'm guessing Wolfer was Zola's father or a former superior officer.
Reminds me a lot of that one guy from All Guardsmen Party
Fantastic video. Thank you.
Thanks mate - appreciate the feedback! Hopefully I will get my vids up to the same quality as yours one of these days
@@dystopianchimp I thought it was great.
Would be fun, if we eventually find out Grendel and Wolfer are the same person. Why would he would do that? Apotheosis.
The God Emperor of Mankind is in charge. To say otherwise is heresy
The level 30 vet guardsmen with a lasgun build
Race - human, gender - male, class - guardsman
@@Brandelwyn John Darktide
Well if there’s one thing if Brahms kicks the warparty off the Morningstar grendyls gonna believe Brahms before he believes the warparty after all of howlettes antics
I thought the lady who get shot then turned into a Servitor was the traitor?
It could also be possible based on what the Psykers have said about Zola ("Having an argument with herself without realizing it") there is something more extra-normal happening that might not necessarily have anything to do with The Cult of Admonition or the Moebian Sixth. What with the Water Barons that existed in The Torrent (before Rodin became the Ragged King), their corpses look oddly bald like Genestealers, and the colors + their faction symbol alone. I guess maybe Zola is a traitor, but not a heretic, maybe a genestealer mutant. It would explain why Grendyl interacts with her more directly, but also explain Rannick's immense difficulty locating a traitor if the traitor in question is not the lady that gets shot during the cutscene you get at level 30.
I think that the now-servitor lady very well could have been 'a' traitor - but whether or not she is 'the' traitor is another question. Something more complex could be going on behind the scenes as well - i.e. she was framed by the real / stronger traitor or was sacrificed by someone else to maintain their own secrecy. But yeah, as far as we know for sure at this stage - the traitor has been identified and dealt with
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I think rannick is the traitor, and he executed the "traitor" when you get to level 30 because of how sloppy she was.
@@biggumstevens1784that would be neat. she did seem EXTRA shocked when he turned the gun on 'er, like they were coconspiraciers
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yeah, she was all smiles and giggles while the gun was on you, thinking she framed it all perfectly, but the entire game you had interacted with the other parties...they knew you got shit done, and they were already watching the player like a hawk.
Then she it turned on her, she panicked and looked shocked/betrayed, then ran
Wait wait wait where can we see her as a servitor ?@@dystopianchimp
Watching this video makes me wonder something genuinely. Which of these...colorful array of characters actually care the most about the rejects? Granted I know none of them care about us to that such degree but at the very least, who's overall the least harsh towards them?
Could it be Zola herself? As she is overseeing their operations? Morrow as he too is a soldier and knows the value of one, even if they are rejects? Or surprisingly Rannick as he was quick to try and get the rejects out of what he knew was a trap set by the karnack twins rather than just let them die as he knows they are expendable? Questions like this always got me fascinated because I get very passionate about lore and stuff.
Who is in charge? Grendyl, easy. Inquisition has supremacy of will - inquisitors can even revoke writs of trade should enough evidence, or a powerful enough inquisitor, justify it. Take Inquisitor: Martyr, the Rogue Trader there is a bit different due to her house being under scrutiny for heresy, but she is absolutely under the thumb of the inquisitor. People like Brahms, or a Space Marine Chapter Master, can theoretically refuse the "requests" of Inquisitors, but it is not a good idea. So yeah, who holds the true power? Grendyl, and since he is not present, arguably Rannick. In a practical sense of power you could argue that, yeah, if Brahms and company really wanted to remove them from the ship - by force if necessary - they could. They'd just likely be branded traitors and hunted down as a result. If they managed to kill the part of the warband on the ship, then it'd just delay retribution that bit longer. Even if the ship jumped, and escaped, the Writ of Trade would be nullified for Brahms individually at least, and maybe her entire house would be investigated or dissolved at the most.
Rannick's appearance reminds me alot of Gary Oldman's character in the 5th element.
The Inquisition. Next question.
When I saw this thumbnail, my first thought was that someone used an AI to make a grimdark version of MomCorp CEO and two of her sons.
I would like to adress the point about Zola being stabbed and its comparison with Jagatai situation. Zola wasn't stabbed with anything like Death Guard's plague sword. The Deathguard were carrying weapons blessed by Nurgle itself, infused with the most horrible diseases ever created. Zola was stabbed, as it was mentioned in the video, with poopy knife. I don't think that it was blessed or modified in any way more advanced than being pooped on. Even though it is still unpleasant and might give you a nasty infection, with Imperium's medicinal level (which is horrifoengly good to be frank) it is not a threat to life and can be cured if not over a day, then over several weeks.
You could be right! Though I would say that beyond the poopy nature of the knife, the Moebian 6th are now devout followers of Nurgle and would most certainly work towards having their weapons (knives included) blessed by the god - especially if the Admonition is involved in anyway. They clearly have a strong connection to Nurgle and so I don't think it is a stretch to say they would have Warp imbued / infused blades in use across the regiment
@@dystopianchimp then again - this warp infusion won't be anywhere that strong as it was back then on Terra. Those were most likely champions of the dead guard fighting Jaghatai. So they were the elite of the elite - the most beloved by Nurgle, during final battle. So their infusions would have been over the top relic level.
In case of Zola's poopy knife - it is blessed by some random cultists on a backwater planet and given to a random militarum hereticus member. It might carry some warp charge indeed, but I think that Nurgle is more occupied with Mortarion fighting Guilliman at the moment of game's story to give any reasonable blessing to a random cultist.
And moreover - although we hear of "witches" through Wolfer's comms, we can't really see any effect of them on the battlefield (apart from blessed units who are not that comparitevly dangerous, just a little tougher than usual). And I don't think it was a blessed blade, since nothing was glowing with green.
And - to finish it up - she was surrounded by Moebian corpses - not admonitionist's. And, judging from how Moebians behaved in the cutscene - they were more of a renegade regiment, than cultists. They implied military strategies and didn't seem to use a lot of magic or occult (apart from pox-walker meat shield). So they are not very likely to devout recources and time into blessing each blade.
Though Zola's resistance is also nowhere near that of the Khan's - so the power scale really evens out imo. Strong Nurgle charged blade = almost dead Primarch. Weaker Nurgle charged blade = totally fine human? @@yukinoved4260
Why do so many assume Brahms is at odds with Grendyl or does not like the warband on her ship? Going from her narration of the opening cinematic she seems to be ride or die for the imperium and ordo hereticus and completely agrees that hives like Tertium can't be allowed to fall. I have not seen anything that really points to Brahms even being mad for her ship getting taken over as she seems to owe Grendyl for something in the past.
Much of it comes from the extremely rare cases where she narrates over missions, there she is much more candid about her position.
Grendyl. Grendel. Grendel is a member of “Cain’s clan, whom the creator had outlawed / and condemned as outcasts.” (106-107 fragmented excerpt attributed to 'Beuwolf', a story written long ago by W. Shakespire, 2nd M. dramaturge)
It is so simple you missed it, and that is why he simply shows you his true bald heretic face in the beginning. Grendyl is -A Word Bearer, Grendel is Kor- *-Ack-*
When you talk about the Shipmistress, Commodore Hallowette is mentioned as part of the rogue trader crew. But later when discussing the members of the warband, you say Hallowette is Morrow's second in command. Was this a mistake or can she be both?
Anyone here after the locked and loaded update
And now...
Random Commissar: I'm in charge now! Look lively, don't you dare disappoint me! *Bla bla bla bla*
I really blame the weakness of Interrogator Rannick who projects 0 authority, charisma, fear, anything. That or...
Fatshark's writing.
Heresy, we all know that the emperor is the one who has the most power, the emperor protects.
Woke up 5am. Fastest I’ve click on a video.
Haha thanks mate - hopefully a good way to start your day
What armor/skin do u have on at the start of this video?
mechnical eye piece is from the tog the tank crusher set
@@PuntOMancer0666 and the chest?
Hey mate - yep @robowolfzane6666 is correct for the head piece! The rest of the set is from the "Torveth, Butcher of the Syndian Reach" bundle that is actually still in rotation at the shop
Can you make a lore video on Brahms hair stylist?
It’s simple, Interrogator Rannick is in charge. The in game dialog points it out. Rannick is often referred to as “The Boss” amongst other nods to his authority.
Not to mention at the end of the “Campaign”. All other characters are seen standing in attention to Rannick’s orders. That is a dead give away.
I think Rannick is definitely in charge as far as we, the rejects, are concerned. Though in reality Grendyl is pulling the strings - but with Brahms also holding many many cards
Too obvious
Zolas behavior during the Karnak twins, really sort of gives the vibes that Rannik knows something about her, and this was as much a test of her as it was for the player.
He casually dismisses her, and just tells the players to make it out alive...normally you can hear all voix transmissions between characters, but Rannik calls on Masozi to remove the team, but you never hear her reply...he goes "oh well, it seems flights are not available...well survive, good luck"
I think Rannik is the traitor. I think he set up Zola with the information about the Karnak twins, using her as a means of getting rid of the team and also removing her from authority. Rannik also casually executes the traitor when you get to level 30, the traitor looks shocked as if she had been betrayed, she didn't even try to argue her innocence. I think rannik offed her because she was such a sloppy servant, always doing sloppy crap to get caught and leaving a trail right back to him....
Rannick is the traitor.
Bs, he was a loyal interrogator for many years
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and wolfer was a loyal captain for many years.
Wow, Ranik looks just like the villain from the 1997 film Fifth element
I think it's more likely Rannick is worried about his position, instead of being a traitor. Plus I think it's darker than way, that he's sabotaging the mission not because he has changed sides but because he's a petty asshole.
Is there an inquisitor?
Then they're in charge.
However, a smart inquisitor will take care not to unnecessarily burn bridges.
And given how Rannick is(for someone who's an inquisitors right hand and an interrogator to have his disposition is rare)Grendyl might be one of the better inquisitors.
im not a stim addict i promise
Thats what they all say
I would very much appreciate if you would credit me for the art of mine you are using on your video. You credited the music´s author so please do the right thing with visual art as well. Thank you very much!
Of course mate!! Apologies for the oversight - love your work!
Whoever has the biggest guns is in charge.
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I personally think the Stims should be less effective on ogrens because of there size
Go grab your Warrant of Trade today !!
I know it is difficult and you may have personal responsibilities but don't give up on making videos, please
Wow thank you mate, I really appreciate it! Don't worry, I have many many more videos in the works - just give it time :) Thanks again
Rannick looks like an younger version of Gary Oldman
No one knows until they write up the story further because the story is barely there.
I believe that Zola is part of a Genestealer Cult considering her enthusiasm for wanting to save Atoma over being dutiful to the Emperor.
*BLAM*
WRONG, OUR MASTER IS THE EMPEROR, HERETIC!
Note, if you look at the official "Chain of command" the Rogue Trader holds relatively low authority when compared to virtually every official Imperial faction. They only wield huge authority they enjoy in uncolonized sectors of the galaxy, where they get to do essentially whatever they physically can do, to the civilizations they come across. Once the official Imperial forces show up though, they only have political favors and bribery to fall back on, not actual authority.
Inquisitor Grendel was my guess.
Did you pronounce cadre incorrectly or is that how English people say it?
Haha a quick Google search has shown me that there are multiple ways to pronounce it? Ka-da, ka-dray, or ka-dree
Let's just say... this is all *without* Grendel. Once he shows up all bets are off. Everyone will bemd the knee to him and what he says or he can simply shoot them
been so long since ive seen grendyl, might be dead
obviously the Emperor
I love this game. I wonder if you get a raise or executed if you figure it out?
Ok a not about Rouge Traders, they have just enough power if not more so then the Inquisition. An Inquisitor can not force a Rouge Trader to do anything, they can however offer them something they want.
algo comment good vidya
Sire melk ofc
Woo
I think Grendyl is just a made up figure. The real Inquisitor is among us right from the start of this story. Who is it? I dont' know. But I have a feeling we'll meet him/her very soon.
i'm not that versed in lore but doesnt inquisitor have a power to deem whole planet to be purged
Yes but it's the last thing they want to do
Pretty sure it’s pronounced Ka-dray, or ka-dree, not a ka-der. Just never heard it pronounced that way
Grendyll was only able to assume control of the ship due to his political tacts. Not because he has authority of Brahms, could be wrong though. Thats why Inquisition has to resort to using convicts instead of Brahms being forced to deploy her own military
Rannick is the traitor
Noice vid
Id like to think Grendel might be an AI/Man of Iron. Would be something interesting
Makes zero sense
Of course the inquisitor. Inquisition are agents of the Imperium, given authorities to do whatever it takes to investigate and uprooting enemies. They are basically lords. While Rogue Traders are just a bunch of sailors sponsored either by their noble house or straight up High Lords. Traders can say a lot of shit to Inquistor asking for support but Inquisitor still has higher authorities. They are basically taxis to Inquisitors. That said, shall a situation went sour, they will leave the Inquisitor if the problem are not to their benefit. Unless the Inquisitor ordered otherwise. If the Trader still does it, than he betrayed the Inquisitor, and should expect some shitstorm coming
rogue traders are not "just a bunch of sailors". They have a literal contract from the emperor themselves saying they can do whatever the fuck they want outside of the Imperium. That's a very big deal considering the Emperor is considered tantamount to god. They themselves are usually nobles with dozens of planets to their name, and Rogue Traders don't come from other Noble families, but rather dedicated Rogue Trader houses. Basically: Rogue Traders are second ONLY to the Inquisition, and even then, they can get away with telling them to f off in certain cases.
Wrong. Rogue traders has literally planets with armies behind them, with fleets, can do whatever they want. the INQ Outside in the kronus they are just retinue of people while Rouge traders can wage war againts xenos or anybody in the expanse. The inquisition can request help and capital REQUEST, even can request space marine chapters but they can say fck off. Play the new CRPG Rogue Trader, perfectly encapsulates what RG can do or capable. You can meet acolyte and a proper inquisitor aswell. Can tell them to fckoff ;)
Really? You think Grendel is real/alive?
Because the vibe I get from the Inquisitorial warband is that there is no Grendel or if there ever was, he died at some point. And his former entourage are trying to hide this.
The inquisition
Watch Zola wind up being a living saint or something.
Who cares? Your only duty is obbey, citizen, no question who give you orders.
Who am I?
Some dude
We do know that Grenydal is a dude. Mission dialogue from Morrow confirms this. I can't remember which mission has it though, if it is specific.
Just remember, no matter how beseiged by Chaos, aliens and rebels alike, the Imperium is always its own biggest enemy. It is literally represented by a two-headed eagle looking in different directions.
The two heads represent the alliance between earth and mars
Do you think Grendel is a Puritan or radical inquisitor?
Also, 60% sure Melk is a traitor.