What is saving Atoma from 'Exterminatus' in Darktide?
Вставка
- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- #darktide #warhammer40k #warhammer40000 #40k #warhammerlore
In Darktide, why doesn't the Inquisition just nuke Tertium from orbit?
Gap Games ❤ www.gapgames.c...
Music from Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio.
The contents presented in this video are the intellectual property of their respective creators and companies. dystopianchimp does not assert any ownership or rights over any of the works featured in this video, except for the audio commentary specifically recorded for this presentation. We acknowledge and respect the original creators' contributions and express gratitude for their artistic endeavors.
#gamesworkshop #gamesworkshop40k #warhammer40000 #warhammer40k #warhammer #warhammercommunity #40k #wh40klore #warhammerlore #warhammer40klore #40klore #spacemarine #spacemarines #imperiumofman #40k #lore
Strategic value absolute, send in the rejects.
Send in the crackheads and a big dude with a rock
That’s kinda why that world wasn’t destroyed in space marine 1: strategic value
You are so correct
I still think how Imperium can be like that and lose Space Marine over dumbthings. 😂😂😂
exterminatus is A LOT rarer in 40k than is portrayed by the fan base. exterminatus is ideally only used when a planet is 100% lost and probably about to be turned into a daemon world. As far as can be seen there are only human cultists with some daemon hosts among them but no where near that bad of a chaos incursion as it could be. There are no daemons or heretic astartes on the planet so really the only thing the imperium has to do is mop up and cleanse the place and it can be put back into imperial compliance easily
The prime example I would use to back this point up will always be; the Imperium fighting over Vraks to the point where the whole planet turned into an inhabitable rock while losing 10 millions Imperial soldiers that basically all died in vain, it is the testiment to the Imperium not willing to easily give up a planet, or in another example, the war for planet Armageddon where a very massive commitment was put from every known branch of the Imperial armed forces toward that planet alone when blowing it up is much simpler considering the amount of clausterfk that was happening throughout the 60 years of war. That's a hard implication that the Imperium doesnt just blow up planets for fun.
Even in other source material like the game Dawn of War, the only reason that Blood Ravens lost their recruitment planet due to Exterminatus was because it was perfectly orchistrated and manipulated by a Chaos tainted Chapter Master, but I would say the situation justify the action regardless since the planet (or the whole subsector for that matter) was already beyond repair from the results of both the Ork infestation and Tyranid invasion, Chaos invading later down the line was just a cherry ontop.
@@mediumsurmoon6283Vraks cost a mere few millions of guardsmen (honestly, whoever wrote the Vraks campaign should teach himself a little bit more of military history and strategy, but that's another convesation), and some million of tons of equipment. To take a productful planet could, would be worth a billion men in the long run.
And not only that; exterminatus would be viewed by the inquisition in large as a failure to save the planet and it's production by the inquisitiors in charge. It's not that you ordered some billions of human to death (to be honest if the cost of saving a planet was every single human on it it'd be worth it), it's that ordered a planets production to be annihilated for very probably all time to come practically. I wouldn't be surprised if each case of exterminatus would be investigated by a conclave. So inquisitiors would know that it's the (literally) ultimate sanction, one that could get a bolt round to the head even if they have missed one little point of consideration upon making that decicion. And remember, innocence is no excuse.
@@jkausti6737hey large scale scifi wars fought with lower troop counts than the major players in ww2 is a staple of sci-fi.
See also the Clone army in star wars
@@vonfaustien3957I've always chalked that up to how much more important a naval presence is. Orbital control gives you assured destructive capability, so ground battles will only ever really be fought to protect population centers against demoralization attacks and when the naval battle is at an absolute standstill and surface control may allow some sort of counter-orbital advantage. And since ships don't need thousands or millions of troops to man and all you need is one more ship than the other guy, troop counts end up drastically lower. My best example for this is the Dominion War in DS9.
@@noabsolutelynot3660 ships do need thousands of crew. The Bismark and other battleships had around 2000 men. A modren American super carrier is 4k. Now Trek and some other settings can argue AI, advanced computers and automation keep numbers down. But other setting particularly in settings like 40k or Dune or say the foundation where Robots and AI are banned or lost tech can't do that and that big ass mile long warships going to take manpower that makes a modren warships crew compliment look tiny.
"So what, it's just because it's a big factory world?" is something ive heard online. Do people have ANY idea how far the imperium goes to defend factory worlds? Ever hear of a little place called Armageddon?
Had it been the cult mechinicum world we be fighting with some tech bois and maybe hear astartes rumor sighting
Dents think the grim derp memes are true & don't think beyond anything else materials for that tank is hard enough to come by, that's why I don't really care what some mouth breather spewing the same memes day in day out.
as an ork player ihave to say it's not Armageddon
it's ARMAGITZON!
I assume that things on Atoma aren't anywhere near that bad that it would require nuking from orbit.
We are fighting to restore water supply and re-start foundry among other things. That strongly suggest that things are for the most part are fine in most of the hive city we are fighting in. We just happen to see bad districts / districts under attack.
Exterminatus is at the discretion of the inquisitor in charge of an operation, so Grendyl probably thinks that with what resources he has available he can put a cork in the heresy. It does seem very strange though because rooting up and clearing out the heretics in a hive city is like trying to hold back a wave of water by uppercutting it. Beyond just killing them all someome has to clean up the districts of the bodies, the chaos writing everywhere and the chaos objects. And who knows how many nooms and crannies there are where they could be hiding. On top of that just trying to stop heresy from being too widely known isn't happening because of how many people are involved and how the amoebian 6th are so public about their cause, along with historically being a reputable regiment . Like, a MASSIVE number of people have had their lives taken or disrupted by them so there's no way you could kill everyone who knows or keep it quiet, at least in the lower and mid levels like throneside, but even closer to the top like in the hourglass mission area there's heretic presence. Given how important things like metalfab 36 are I'd be surprised if there aren't at least some upper class folk who don't know what's happening by virtue of disruption of goods processing to export.
I kinda agree with the one wyrmwood agent doing the prologue journals, that this is kind of too late to really shut down because had help been able to arrive sooner they could've nipped this in the bud before it got out of hand. It's like that one exterminatus cutscene says (paraphrasing): you can cut the limbs off the tree but the roots will still be there.
I don't think exterminatus is an option though unless shit gets even worse simply because of the resources Atoma cranks out. Plus it would make keeping quiet about the darktide harder to all the other planets in the moebian domain if it got to the point where it becomes public knowledge Atoma gets razed because the darktide is nurgle's followers
but, at the same time, having in mind how Warhammer lore actually is, would it be wrong to think that the highest difficulties are what is really happening? places full of specialists, enormous almost infinite hordes of enemies, daemons, Nurgle beasts, etc. I'm surprised a place so important as it is portrayed to be still doesn't have a full rescue operation with SMs and all of that
@@v4n1ll4space marines are rather rare most of the time the Guard and Inquisition handle chaos cults
the amount of special enemies probably isnt that high (besides moebian 6th units), but i think the amount of poxwalkers is definitely whats happening, given the sheer population of hive cities@@v4n1ll4
One of the rejects dialogue teased the upper hive levels, so there might be something coming that way
Whole missions are fixing factory equipment, changing water filter, censored illegal radio, snatch some stuff, clearing angry mob from public property and beat mob leader. Atoma actually less chaotic than Detroit.
Exterminatus is a last resort, not something they throw out willy nilly
but, then again, destroying a whole ass planet doesn't seem to be not even a little difficult to do lol, the church is craaaazy
@@v4n1ll4destroying a planet is easy, but that planet is gone forever so not something you’d want to do.
Inquisitor Darkhammer would like to have a word
@ianchimp and Darkhammer is not well loved by many in the Inquisition because of this and the Space Wolves threaten to straight up kill him if he went exterminatus in the first Armageddon war. Heck he is declared Excommunicate Traitoris by his rival Valeria and is being hunted by her with no other Inquisitor being interested in helping him or rescinding the Excommunicate Traitoris.
Another Inquisitor who was denounced and being kicked out of the Inquisition for the unjustifiable extreme use of Exterminatus was Kryptmann who was declared Carta Extremis.
Just to show that the Imperium in general are against the Offhanded use of Exterminatus, and that meme aside those that do do exterminatus in large numbers are few and far in between
Tell that to Kryptman!
Exterminatus on such an important world would be a waste. And what's also important, things on Aroma don't really seem that bad. During our missions we are sometimes even told that there is suspected cult activity in the area. Sure, there always is, but it would be boring if we went somewhere and it turned out there are no enemies there. And as for the mission objectives, we are restoring water supplies, reclaiming factories and disabling propaganda stations. Those are not actions we would focus on a world that's near to being lost, we are fighting to keep the situation contained to the few heavily affected sectors.
Those actions are perfect for highly disposable rejects, but not valuable forces
In theory the Imperium should easily have the resources to just evacuate all the key infrastructure on Atoma Prime, then relocate it to a place not currently at war. Just pick up the hive and move it someplace else. Maybe it'll take 20 years to get it all running again.
@@genericscout5408Or the Imperium could spend a decade rooting out all of the chaos corruption and traitors and have everything restored within 5 years, leaving to a 5 year head start minimum, assuming that it takes even that long to clear out Atoma.
@@somewhereelse1235 The Imperium is anything but consistent.
@@genericscout5408 They're fairly consistent on engaging in long and bloody ground campaigns rather than doing anything else, even if the other solution would save more on resources.
I always got the impression that the Hive-Cities issues are only spread over parts of the lower Hive, for the ruling authorities this probably seems like a typical Incident (so far)
Definitely started in the lower hive, but looks as though it has spread to the mid-upper hive - at least if Throneside is any indication. Also, since there seems to be traitors among the Atoman noble houses - there is definitely some drama cooking in the upper hive as well
It is teased multiple times in dialogues that someone in the upper hive is helping the chaos cultists, especially in the Archivum Sycorax mission where I think Zola explicitly mentions access to the Archivum could only have been obtained by someone from the upper hive.
Maybe in two years the narrative gets to that point lol
@@dystopianchimp IMO at the point it is now. All of the Hive is pretty much being assaulted BUT they are managing the issue enough to squeeze out equipment from the facotries and are controlling it to certain areas. But the Hive Itself is pretty much lost cause due to groups of abnormally competent penal warband lol
Also there Must be something important. There are literal Demons being summoned, it's not just bad is downright horrid but there is *Something* that they want first
I heard an interaction between a zealot and veteran character. The zealot asked why we didn't just blow up the whole place and the veteran replied that the foundry we were clearing out was too valuable to just blow up.
They need this planet’s ores for their Leman Russ tanks. The inquisition won’t risk destroying something that valuable. Especially when they’re desperate enough to send in penal soldiers.
Other than Daeomonhosts, Beasts of Nurgle are the only daemons that have appeared, and they’re both rarities. The cultists probably need rituals to summon them (Chaos Spawns being failed rituals), so while Nurgle’s presence is notable, a true daemon invasion has not even started yet, technically.
No Nurglings, no Plaguebearers, no Death Guard, no Great Unclean One… if Space Marines aren’t needed to keep Nurgle corruption under control, Exterminatus is out of the question. And apparently the rejects are doing a fine job… for now.
However, there are rumors inside the community that a Genestealer Cult DLC is coming some day (I don’t know where they get their speculation from). If that’s true then the situation is worse than we thought. Still, even if they do have a Genestealer Cult, it’s still manageable. Just throw more rejects (players) at the problem.
The game makes a good show of showing that Atoma and Tertium are far from lost. The heretics struggle to take and keep ground. Strike teams are sent to ruin their efforts
Fanbase acts as if exterminatus happens every week for the imperium. Assuming the imperium has a million worlds under its control, simple math quickly shows just how rare exterminatus must be. In the 10,000 years since the heresy, if one world was purged every week, that means 560,000, or HALF of all imperial worlds would have been destroyed by exterminatus. Even once a month, that would be 120,000, or 12% of all worlds, which also is a ridiculous number, especially considering this does not include worlds and sectors that are just straight up lost to various other wars or fall dark due to necron awakenings tyranid invasions.
A hive is a big place, basically a nation that is as wide as it is tall.
If the situation were truly dire, our small objectives in the grand scheme of things would be genuinely suicidal missions where they'd send more than four rejects to accomplish, but rather a regiment of them.
The Cadia personality brings up the point that Cadia fell but not atoma, well we're looking at a Cadia 2.0 with none of the attributes of the fallen fortress world to help it like an entire population ready to fight.
Basically several reasons
1. Atoma is too important both strategically and economically
2. Grendle simply doesn't have the resources
3. The entire planet is likely not under threat yet. This is likely very localized to one hive city's underbelly.
4. No threats of significance have shown up other than a few daemon hosts, a rare chaos spawn or plaugryn, and a *very* rare daemon in the form of a beast of nurgle (a mid teir nurgle daemon at best). No champions of chaos, no Heretic astartes, no major Nurgle Rot outbreaks, no major daemon presence. Just some zombies, a handful of ogryns and a smattering of traitor guard
Also they have no way to communicate due to Warp interference
There is another plot hole, there are daemonhosts, Atoma would be serious enough to bring in Grey Knights
I have a feeling whatever is going on in the "sister city" that everyone in-game refuses to talk about may be the answer to that plot hole.
They can't communicate with outside systems due to warp interference
There aren’t anywhere near enough Grey Knights for them to call them in every time a daemonhost turns up.
Problem is are those really true deamonhosts?
You've got four rejects who can down them when a true deamonhost should tear them to shreds.
(I know that's gameplay and story segregation.)
Daemonhosts vary widely in power, depending on the power of the daemon and the specifics of the binding ritual. The more thoroughly you bind the daemon, the less power it has (but the easier it is to control).
and i always thought that the traitor problem is kind of a underground or at beast a sporadic and tertium widely is still ok. and most of the rich are still above in their spires and even their existence is enough to not exterminatus. even if everyone below are already gone.
also i hope one day we at least get a traitor marine (death guard) as a boss encounter obviously not named. surely if its a known traitor marine, they'd just flatten our rejects *let alone typhus* in a gameplay perspective xD
I think if there is death guard on atoma then the situation is serious enough to send some space marines. Would love to play as space marine in this game though.
The elites of the planet wouldn't be considered important enough themselves to halt exterminatus if it was considered necessary. The wider Imperium only cares about the resources a planet can provide, the local elites are only valuable in that they keep the planet productive and the tithes flowing. Even planetary governors are still near the bottom of the Imperial hierarchy
Darktide only takes place in one part of one hive city. I doubt this the only chaos incursion the inquisitor in the game has dealt with this month.
simple version: corruption is manageable and this is chaos related so the inquisition has to intervene, they can simply exterminatus but it will also put their entire career at risk so it's not an option
I wonder about the number of tanks etc just lying about in areas the mobians and their allies occupy that could be retrieved and used. Seems strange that nobody fetched them for use.
-types on computer- Machine spirit says nooo...
Indeed. Bad writing probably.
Probably because most of the fighting is in small rooms and core doors and the mobians don't have the resources to keep them moving and shooting
They do use them, just not against us (yet, possible assassination style mission in the future).
There sometimes are tanks where our friendlies of the moebian 21st are holding position.
And there is also a heretic one in the elevator heist mission
Yeah this is an interesting one - I think Morrow does mention this in-mission when you find an abandoned Leman Russ, explaining that the tight and narrow spaces where the real fighting is going on just doesn't allow for tank support so they are de-prioritised and are instead used as defences
We do see the planet is still in shape to produce wargear even as we fight through the manufactorums. It’s safe to say that as we lose and gain ground, whenever that ground has production capabilities, it’s immediately put to use. So long as the fight is somewhat even sided, no need to destroy what can hopefully still be an asset to the imperium’s fighting capabilities.
Darktide really makes me want a game that has the opposite goal. To eventually corrupt a world for Chaos/The Nids. Something less combat oriented and more grand strategy perhaps... Anyways great video! Glad the algorithm recommended it to me.
Yes this one right here Inquisitor
Battlefleet gothic armada 2 chaos dlc maybe?
I don't think enough of atoma has been infested by chaos forces. Simple as that.
Hard to say what is the cut for enough forces. There are literal beasts of nurgle and daemon hosts so gay knights at least?
@@Ironbattlemaceregular space marines could take care of those tbh
@@Ironbattlemace the daemon hosts are not just lesser, they are extremely lesser if 4 rejects can take them out. As for the Beasts of Nurgle...those are small ones. A proper Beast of Nurgle is twice the height of a Space Marine and has a lot more everything.
Only two cities show corruption on the planet. The one we are dealing with that obviously is still half functional. The sister city they won't talk about but is hinted at also being a problem. Some talk mentions it isn't as bad, others say it is worse. Grendyl does have the Hive surrounded however and anyone trying to leave is being killed. So the corruption is contained and we are just dealing with it.
Outside of the fact that terminatus is effectively an admittance of failure by an Inquisitor. It's very likely that the the mourningstar doesn't have the capabilities to pull off a terminatus considering it's not an actual inquisition ship
loving the vids! i'm aussie too, prob played with u before, my characters are Nihla, Zelie, Thud and Wanda
Thanks mate ♥I'll keep an eye out for them on the Mourningstar, especially Thud - he sounds like gentleman
Facilities of course, otherwise it would be dead world already.
Partially, the problem is simply not beyond recover and it's chaos related. An uprising or a xenos attack you can leave it to the militarum, but chaos they always have to take seriously, like Vraks was taken seriously only after traitors presence was confirmed on the planet
the content drought is saving atoma
The fact astartes or sisters of silence or soritad haven't been deployed yet shows it is contained in the hive city for now. Extermination is a last resort and would be a major blow for the indomitable crusades logistics in supplying leman russ tanks in the sector as well as the tithe
"What is saving Atoma?"
THE WILL OF THE EMPEROR
The real question is what are the lyrics for the disposable unit song??
that's some ancient necron forbidden knowledge right there for sure
🎵Rexus-Follower-Emperor-Prejudice-Innocent-Mockable-Traitor-Treacherous🎵
I heard a vet/ogryn talk where she said “they should virus bomb this place!” And the Ogryn said “sure! But we do the good fighting with guns and fists first!”
“The imperium cannot afford such weakness so close to its center of power “ Doesn’t send any space marines 💀💀💀
I wanna point out that Inquisitors have used Rogue Traders as transport before. Most notable of those are Eisenhorn and Ravenor. Rogue Traders have a lot more leeway in where they can go and who they can deal with. Making them perfect transports for covert Inquisitorial actions.
I didn't realize Atoma is so close to Terra that definitely adds a lot of perspective. In light of that I'm now convinced that there's more imperial forces on Atoma than just what we see. Which we do see several groups of Imperial Guard standing around. They never actually say outright that Inquisitor Grendel's warband unless I missed something. It makes sense that the rejects on the Mourningstar would only know about what's going on on the Mourningstar especially since it's the Inquisition and a big part of the plot is they're trying to stop a traitor from sending information. Otherwise it would be retarded that they're ONLY counting on the Rejects.
the decisionmaking goes as following
>
>
>
>
>
*random skits of industrial output, mainly Leman Russ Battletanks*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
the video i got it from for reference if anyone needs that
/watch?v=EHy0JVNCwsM
;)
Exterminatus is an exceptionally rare occurrence, and it isn’t hard to see why. Despite the faanbase’s memes, the Imperium does not casually throw away resources. When a commissar shots a guardsman, it isn’t because it is funnies, but because the rest of the guardsman’s regiment will fight, and fight harder. The loss of one lasgun that wouldn’t fight well is less than his cowardice spreading.
The Inquisition is portrayed as above all law, but they are not above reproach. When the Inquisition deployed Exterminatus in advance of a Tyranid hive fleet, hoping to deny it resources and divert it towards the Orks, it spelled the end of the Inquisitor who ordered it. Not because the Inquisition was offended by his immorality, but because they viewed the plan as a waste which merely would make the resulting victor stronger.
Exterminatus in the lore is an absolute last resort. It is deployed when all reasonable hope of a good outcome is lost. As in, a planet will be devoured by Tyranids for biomass anyway. But even in situations where Chaos has effectively taken control of a planet, they don’t usually deploy exterminatus, instead hoping to reconquer it. Only in the case of a planet become a daemon engine or falling into the warp will exterminatus become required.
I’m amazed they’re not sending in more siege specialists guardsmen and Astartes with mechanicus support.
Something to make the inquisitorial task forces job easier, let the hoard deal with the imperial military forces. While the agents go after the core issues, maybe with some elite Astartes, scions and specialist units like Sororitas units.
Why would they send in Astartes when there is Astra Militarum and Inquisition there holding backthe Darktide? Despite what it looks like, the Astra Militarum are extremely capable soldiers. Astartes are only really used to deal with sufficient threats like Tyrranids and Chaos Space Marines and even then its up to the chapter Grand Master. The fact that strike teams of Convicts are able to pull off hit and run missions proves that Astartes would be overkill and werent necessary in the first place. If anything, the Death Korps would be sent in first before the Astartes even bothered.
It is a dedicated hive world that provides armaments for the Astra Militarum; Strategic Value Absolute
Its a factory world, kinda figured the Martian tech heads are a bit to keen on keeping the world in one piece.
I figured it was an uprising that was centered more around the capital city than a planetary civil war which would explain why we only see one ship and a lack of more than more regiment or even Astartes deployed. However we do see low level daemons fully manifested as well as daemon hosts so clearly things are not going well if such horrors can fully manifest in real space. This makes me think that the chaos cultists have a deeper root running in the the city and potentially the world as a whole. Given the warp fuckery we see in the opening splash of the ship arriving to Atoma I think the chaos boys are pulling some warp fuckery to limit or prevent messages from going in or out of the system. This would explain the lack of Imperial Navy and the lack of Astartes to a front so close to Terra. So unless that one ship has a stock of cyclonic torps on board I doubt one ship can preform an exterminatus on it's own. Thus the stale mate we see in the game where they just barely keep the chaos cultists in check while not really gaining any ground to speak of while they try to send a message for aid through said warp fuckery.
The chaos taint is only in two hive cities, and on top of that is relatively contained even with the limited firces the Imperials have at their disposal. Combine that with anyone who leaves a tainted hive getting killed and its only something that would require a few regiments of actual imperial guard reinforcement to properly deal with.
@@shadowwarrior1003 True but it just strikes me as odd we don't see more Imperial navy around the world. Could just be a mistake on the dev's part or a clue something may be very wrong. Hopefully it is just the two cities which can be purged or contained enough to keep the factories going as it is now.
@@taliawtf6944 most likely a warp storm, seeing as the great rift seems to have recently torn the galaxy asunder it's not too unlikely
Here's my opinion, to whomever reads this:
Atoma is Far too important to be destroyed, and not nearly overrun enough
Atoman ore is mentioned to be quite a bit superior to steel, and is needed for tanks and weapons and whatnot
The planet's manufactorums work, there's a lot of them, and thus, they are needed to reinforce the imperium wherever it is most important, so, everywhere
With each succesful strike team mission, hundreds or thousands of heretics/traitors get killed, which means the cult and the moebian 6th probably stuggle to keep ground, if not recruit.
There are probably rumors at least of the strike teams if not the inquisition that they're here and they have this under control and that would already scare most people from joining them anyway
The missions are probably mostly concentrated around the lower/middle hive, where a cult like this wouldn't be too out of the ordinary anyway, the problem is probably the traitors reinforcing them.
This whole situation probably isn't that big if they only send penal soldiers down, with the defense covered by what seems like planetary defense forces
There's no 'important' traitor down there, just wolfer and his lieutenants, no Traitor space marines, no greater daemons, etc.
Exterminatus is much more of a 'last resort' compared to how much we meme about it, at best, we will defeat them, at worst, hive city tertium gets destroyed, or the planet gets virus bombed, or glassed, or something, and the Imperium reclaims it a few decades later.
Tl:dr: Exterminatus is a last resort for a lost planet, and atoma is not even near to being lost. It is also too important.
I fucking love this channel!
Haha thanks mate glad to hear it ❤️
similar case to space marine 1. we saw one of the intro they want to exterminatus but the asset is too valuable to lose. the Titan.
Might be that its because we haven't gotten a new mission since October 2023. Its now nearly March. Oh yeah, second week of March will mark one year from when we got the last new unique weapon that wasn't a mark variant of an already existing weapon, and wasn't a variant that had a different alternate fire.
Fatshark updates slower than GRRM writes, that's what's saving Atoma from Exterminatus.
What surprises me is that we have beasts of nurgle, but not nurglings, rotflies or plaguebearers
Exterminatus is a last resort, to be used if chaos corruption or tyranid infection has escalated beyond the ability for the Imperium to control or contain. Currently, the Nurgle cultists are being successfully suppressed by a mere penal legion. It would likely take unsuccessful deployment of Astartes before the Inquisition even CONSIDERED Exterminatus.
There also are chaos space marines i believe according to a voice line
For the same reason we don't just exterminatus ALL war worlds.
I think people into 40K do not understand the lore. In Lore, an Inquisitor only brings up the possibility of Exterminatus for the most dire "this planet is on the brink of going to the warp or becoming a demon planet" situations. Hell, if an Inquisitor does call in an exterminatus, and then it was found out that wasn't necessary, well there are worse things then death. All in all, Inquisitors dont go around throwing out exterminatus like candy if there is even a slim chance they can retake the planet.
Really like the video 👍
Thanks mate, very glad to hear it
So apparently this planet is hugely important, but that begs the question as to what could be even more important than this that would pre-occupy ALL the Space Marines?
A hugely important and also symbolic forge world close to Terra sounds like the exact type of planet that very much DOES warrant sending in the Astartes.
They would send Death Korps before Astartes. You're also neglecting thee fact that small strike teams of convicts are quelling thousands of infected people and heretics. The Darktide is a very small problem on Atoma Prime and is lucky to even warrant the importance of Gredyll. They also have no communication outside of the system currently due to Warp interference which is why they're resorting to recruiting convicts. There just isnt enough importance to warrant anything more than what is currently deployed
The great rift and imperium being bisected by the warp is what's occupying 90+% of all space marines.
Too bad they can't just send in the astartes
"Those guys are expensive! So they are sending you in first!"
What makes Atoma worth it? A comma or two somewhere. Atoma makes Leman Russ tanks, at least. That’s enough.
i think exterminatus overall is over-memed
The cult uprising on Atoma isn't really that big of an issue. From the dialogue in the game itself, life seems to still be going on as usual in other parts of the Hive.
Tank factories
Because in this case the game would be over
well they could virus bomb the planet.
What i gather the planet maybe yaft holy world
Nah. Industrial planets have high strategic value. It has to be well and truly fucked before they'll blow the planet up. Like "Even the Grey Knights can't exorcise the daemons" kind of fucked.
if this is so important, why not deploy space marines?
Likely because in the grand scheme of things - there are even more important conflicts raging across the Imperium. The assignment of an Inquisitor with his retinue, a Rogue Trader and a guard regiment is still somewhat significant
ME.
Duh, I am.
LOL Exterminatus? Dude... they are not even employing the true might of the Imperial Guard yet. They are dumping PDF and Penitent legions on the problem The Admonition is not worth the deployment of a single Astartes chapter, let alone a full on Exterminatus.
Well tbf there is a full regiment of Guard deployed (the Moebian 21st), penal units as you say and an Inquisitor’s warband (with Rogue Trader support) also in play
Despite their numbers, the Admonition have proven themselves somewhat skilled in warp use (the spread and possible creation of the plague, abominations, daemonhosts and daemon infestations) and also have the support of the Moebian 6th regiment, (the most experienced and battle hardened regiment in the sector).
And all this is just what we know is going down in Tertium - there are two other hive cities which (if we are to go off in-game dialogue) seem to have even more dire problems going on.
It seems very touch-and-go and in all likelihood the situation on Atoma Prime is far worse than we are even aware of (rumours of disaster in the sister city and rumours of powerful entities deep in the lower hives)
Lastly, the question should be asked - who tf is guarding the Fringes of the Moebian Domain against the Darktide now that the 6th has turned traitor? Thats a lot of mysterious xenos and chaos forces that are being left unchecked
dead game, why even care, they crafted such a good game, and fked it up in every possible way iwthin in the first 3 months