Any other 60% gaming keyboards that you guys would recommend? Let me know down below! Also streaming tomorrow, 12pm start Sydney time www.twitch.tv/optimum_tech
1:28 razer huntsman mini 3:10 asus rog falchion 5:21 gmmk compact 7:13 ducky one 2 mini 9:00 motospeed ck61 9:41 anne pro 2 10:52 conclusion (which boards are better in his opinion)
I've been on 60% for years, although my absolute favourite is the Vortex vibe with cherry clears which is a 60% with a numpad attached. I recently picked up the Glorious GMMK with the Glorious Panda's and it's probably my favourite keyboard to date - can highly recommend the Panda's for anyone who likes Clears
One more thing to know about the Ducky One 2 Mini (which maybe other keyboards support this but nobody ever really talks about it) is that you can on a hardware level make the Caps Lock key an Fn key. This feature for me makes it a viable main keyboard replacement as the Caps Lock button is so much easier to press than the regular Fn key at the bottom right. For example, this especially makes it much easier to access the right handed function keys compared to if you had to press them while also trying to hold down the right hand side Fn key.
Honestly, the Anne Pro II is the best. Having that tap arrow key function is the deal-breaker. The bottom right 4 keys are arrow keys if you tap them, and they're their original binds if you hold them, so you can use the right shift/ctrl as you would normally on a bigger keyboard.
Actually depends of the specs of who wins but in the most favorite depends of the community expierence whit the keyboard (time, defects, quality, pros and the most used) and later is the yours opinion what 1. Why do you like it. 2. Know the bad parts what you dont like or the problem of the keyboard itself. 3.You need to know what theres a lot better keyboards 4. Accept other person opinions about yours and other keyboards At specs wins the huntsman obiously At community is more like a race because u dont know who is the favorite of the most of the peoplw And yours what is the Anne Pro 2
@@matt42hughes gets lower than that depending on where in Sydney you are. Gets down to 10c some evenings. Weak shit for anyone in North America or Europe though 😅 it doesn't really get below freezing here
You forgot something about the ducky that is actually a good selling point, it doesn’t need any software to work or change in between light/macro profiles, it is all saved on the board 👍🏻
CuevaDelRaton CORRECTED TEXT: By my Students - You did well to give them homework on how not to write poorly structured sentences. You forgot to mention that the Ducky One 2 Mini has a good selling point in it does not need any software to work or change between light and macro profiles, it is all saved on the board. Students score 9:10 Your score 5:10 Read one book per month to improve your English composition skills and 'Good Luck' and pay attention to detail: it is not ducky - it is Ducky One 2 Mini - Make sure both eyes are open when looking.
I have the Huntsman Mini and made the foam and tape mod and luped all the stabilizers. Now the keyboard feels and sound absolutely amazing. I also added the razer wrist rest and taped it with a strip of double sided foam tape to the Huntsman Mini. In my opinion one, when not the best, 60% keyboard for everyone who won't build a custom one. I freaking love this keyboard and see no reason the switch to a different one.
I did the same thing, I fought for 4 hours with Krytox 205, Eva rubber, I put in the space 3 dampener rings, custom coiled cable and gskill crystal crown keycaps 😂 It's x100 better now and without rattle.
Your channel is basically the only channel where I watch Every. Single. Video. Love it. I currently have an Anne Pro 2 and it was a huge step up from my previous generic Logitech membrane keyboard. Next step I think is to lube the switches and stabs.
@Set Sett As Set I have had some issues like that. With the wired connection I found that the included type c cable didn’t work well. I ended up buying a braided aftermarket one and don’t have any issues with it. Also if I just unplugged and replugged in the stock one it worked fine, but I had to do that about 1/2 the time I restarted my PC. Bluetooth takes some time the first time I connected it to my Mac, but after a few tries it connected and I don’t have any problems there now either.
@Set Sett As Set It was frustrating at first and it took me a while to actually figure out why it was acting strange, but now that I have it figured out I’m completely happy with it. Don’t see myself getting a different board for a long time.
Im using the CK61 in Red Switches and i lubed the switches and mod the stabilizers. A great keyboard for the value, been using it for 2 months and no complaints honestly after the stabilizer mod and lubed switches the keyboard is wayy better and worth it.
Really surprised by the ROG Falchion, I've never even heard of it but the fact that its 65% and with good wireless is really cool. You could mod it by desoldering the switches and replacing them with some nice lubed ones but of course that takes time and money + it usually voids the warranty. Interesting board nevertheless. Edit: after checking out the price I can't say it would really be worth buying because you could build a damn good custom keyboard for less than or equal to that...
In my opinion get the Anne Pro 2. The Anne Pro 2’s advantage over this list is the customizability with key functionality. Using the software you can even move things like your Fn key so you can access your F1-12 while using one hand (I swapped my Fn with my windows key) this simple swap basically negated my fear of leaving behind tkl layouts. Also QMK works on this keyboard so tinkerers can literally make this thing do anything they want with it
@@dimarco1226 yes I’m still Using it now. Only thing that sucks is it’s not hot swappable but I only use it for FPS so I just use linear switches but I love it that I can make any key do anything even the windows and function modifier key. The software to do it is basic but gives you what you need.
@@bartfelix2949 I disagree with how you feel about having a keyboard angled. How you have your keyboard is all up to your personal preference, most of the time I have it slightly angled downwards to the right, due to my keyboard being huge, though some have it that way for many different reasons, either it be their keyboards are huge or small. It’s not exactly useless to have your keyboard on an angle, as for the reasons written above. Sometimes I even change up and have it in it’s normal position with no tilts or anything, it just depends on how I’m feeling that day.
On the Razer, I like the fact that you can keep your fingers on the home row for using arrow pad, with the right pinky holding Fn. Good for teh CLI. Also Razer's software for customized effects is pretty awesome.
You could've also added the Keychron K6, which is 65%, bluetooth and starts at 70$. For and additional 30$ you'll also get RGB backlightning, an aluminium frame and hot-swap sockets. The stabs come pre-lubed; the major downsight are the stock keycaps (ABS, feel rather cheap).
I wanted to get my first mechanical and 60% keyboard (never had either). I needed something budget so I went with the Redragon K530. Cost about $60, has really good build quality for the price, a ton of awesome features that you normally wouldn't find at the price (it has Bluetooth with 3 different connections that you can switch between, although I use it wired). It has Brown switches which I really like as it's a good balance between Blue and Red (I've tried both). Oh and yeah the switches are hot swappable, and it comes with one Black, Red, and Blue switch so you can try them out before you go and buy a new set. Definitely a great budget option (I think it's cheaper now), and I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a budget 60% mechanical keyboard. As an FPS gamer (Apex Legends baby), I'm never going back to a bigger keyboard.
Brown is not a good balance between red and blue. Red is a linear switch, blue a clicky tactile switch and brown is a normal tactile switch. You should lube the switches to get a better sound.
You NEEDED to include the HK Gaming Venus in this list. It is incredibly competitively priced for what you get. I barely see anyone talking about this board, but it is one of the best on the market.
I don't like to be preachy, but they are a pretty shady company. I'm neutral with companies making clone keycap sets, but to challenge and dare the keycap designer in question to sue them is really, really taking it a step too far (i cant remember who but that particular designer made a post on r/mk about their email communications). Eventhough their products are really good for the price, their interactions with fellow community members left a sour taste in my mouth :/
If you're looking for a keyboard that doesn't sound rattly on stock, I highly recommend picking up the Anne Pro 2. All the firmware updates pretty much resolved the bluetooth issues it had on release. I got mine for roughly 60 usd on gateron reds. But you also have other switch options like kaihl box and cherry mx. Imho, cherry mx red sounds so much scratchier than gateron reds.
Running the Asus ROG Falchion for gaming and I am loving it for the most part. I did install O-ring dampers on all keys which resolved the bottoming out noise and it feels excellent. However, There is an Achilles heel. I have large hands and so using the left Shift key when sprinting in Warzone etc. I tend to put pressure on left hand side of the key which is using a metal wire with stabilisers and the key can bind up once the pressure across the key is not centred and I have died multiple times because the key got stuck as a result. Love the vids /peace
Everyone is talking about gaming with these keyboards but these keyboards are also amazing for programming. I got the Ducky One 2 Mini (Mecha) last year and you can easily remap the arrows to HJKL. All remaps are done straight from the keyboard so there is no need to install any software. So if you're using tools with vim keybindings you can now keep your fingers on HJKL for tools without vim keybindings as well. I have caps lock remapped to enter the first layer which will turn HJKL into left, down, up & right.
I’m always impressed by the quality of your videos and you cover a lot of great topics, I hope your channel sees a lot of growth this year you deserve it.
I built myself a budget custom board, and I just cannot go back to prebuilt boards. However, Anne pro 2 and ducky one 2 mini definitely deserve a recommendation. For me, personally, the Anne pro 2 got me into the 60% design, customization and in general made me inquisitive about keyboards.
Just got the HyperX Alloy Origins 60 percent keyboard with red switches recently and it's an awesome keyboard for gaming and just typing in general! Also it is really heavy which I like since it never really moves around on your desk.
I love my huntsmen mini with the red switches. But I modded it a lot. It came sounding pretty nasty. But I did the foam mod. I tighten up every single stabilizer on the switches. I lubed the long stabilizers with krytox GPL205. I use 2-3 o-rings on every single key cap to dampen the depress strokes “and that made a huge difference believe it or not”. I switched out the key caps for pudding for the rgb. With those simple mods it’s so quite and sounds like a membrane keyboard now and I honestly love that. It’s so quite you don’t hear anything but has a great feel extremely smooth key stroke that you don’t get with a membrane keyboard. And I also did the magnetic quick disconnect cable to make for easy movement around the house and to store it when not in use being it came with no dust cover.
Did not know the Asus Falchion existed. Thanks for that. Had a Drevo Blademaster Pro and it broke in a year. Using a Corsair K63 wireless but angle is too low for me. Was leaning towards Logitech G915 tkl because I want wireless, but will give the Asus a shot instead!
I bought the Vortex Race 3 RGB MX silent red switches (75% keyboard) some weeks ago and I am pretty happy with it. It's the perfect mixture between a keyboard for gaming (my desk is really small) but also for other productivity-related stuff like writing text or programming. My cousin has a 60% and the missing f-keys and the missing arrow keys are really bad if you are used to them. I found 75% Keyboards to fit my needs as a hybrid between gaming and productivity pretty well.
Been using a Ducky Mecha Mini for nearly a year and I love the keyboard, especially with the bottom 4 right special keys remapped to arrow keys without FN. Having the fully metal chassis also improves the bottoming out sound, it’s all but gone, and weighs a metric ton lmao
I am currently typing on a GK64, which is a 60% keyboard with squished arrow block in the corner. From time to time I upgraded various parts of it to better ones so it sounds and feels pretty good now.
I have got the Keymove 61. It's a pretty unknown brand but it has got everything that I want as a keyboard: Bluetooth 5.0 or higher No floating keycaps 60% Function and arrow keys (they are layered but that personally doesn't bother me in the slightest) Mechanical Hot swappable Every key right next to eachother with no spacing in between them Bulky USB C Not a requirement of mine but it has also got RGB for the people who find that of great importance
65% is easily my fav. I went from full size to tkl to 65%. I am currently on the kbd67lite hotswap board. I used gateron cap yellow(gold) because they are great for gaming and typing. These switches are lubed from the factory.
@@iJansport i never use page up down and home , delete button i do miss on my corsair k65 mini , i do have razer blackwidow v3 mini , and i can't use those small actuation point switches as i rest my fingers on my keyboard and they register , cherry mx red is nice for me , but this k6( mini is uncomfortable for me so high
IMO best cheap 60 % keeb "everyone" can build: GMMK Compact hot-swap (do band-aid mod and lube stabs with thick lube), then get some cheap decent quality PBT keyset, and finally get some custom switches (my choice is Kaihl BOX switches, love my clicky BOX Jade switches for typing, but they are super loud and not best for gaming). SERIOUSLY, get switch tester kit with multiple type of switches (clicky, tactile and linear) before you buy full switch kit, it saves you alot money in the long run!
I bought a Razer Huntsman Mini with Red Switches about a month ago, I came from a BlackWidow Elite and I absolutely love it! I bought it 15% cheaper through education bonus, and I foam-modded the case and spray-lubed all of the swiches, now it’s almost inaudible.
These Timestamps r for me, Im saving the vid for the future. 1:26 - Razor Huntsman Mini 3:09 - Asus ROG Falchion 5:21 - GGMK Compact 7:12 - Ducky One 2 Mini 8:56 - Motospeed CK61 9:41 - Anne Pro 2
@Jai Pant rn I don't think you'll be able to order cause of covid, but you can look at options from banggood(mk/sk61), they're really good, with a bit of generic lube from Amazon they sound amazing as well
@Jai Pant I don't think AliExpress has keyboards, but I don't have any experience with that, also the reviews were sketchy, my recommendation would be to go with banggood if you're interested in a budget build
@Jai Pant sk64 you'll be able to get in a few months from meckeys.com at a very good price (it's a safe site don't worry), but 205g0 you won't find anywhere in India, you'll either have to order in internationally, or if it's your 1st time building a keyboard, you can go for a semi thick silicone lube from Amazon, it'll save you a LOT of money any barely makes a difference if you don't have the ear for it
65% for me. Can't live without my arrow and navigation keys. The Royal Kludge rkG67 is a pretty decent keyboard. It has 2.4 ghz wireless connection for better latency than bluetooth and is moddable af.
You need to get the HK Gaming Durgod Hades 68 and the Venus. They are fantastic for the price and the stabs are really good too! I personally use a 65% keyboard myself as I need the extra keys and the shorter space/shift/enter really don’t bother me. Great video as always 👍🏻
@@lordeddardstark769 so about that.. I opened up my Hades and it now comes with foam inside it. I got mine a few months back with Gat Yellows. Lubed the switches and everything. That’s when I realised the foam. It’s thin, but it’s there..
@@atthelord yeah I've had mine for about a year, maybe the newer ones have it but I just used some packing foam and most of the pinging went. That metal frame is much better than the plastic ducky one
I’ve been gaming on 60% for years and so many people give me weird looks. I love it and of you use the FN you don’t lose any functionality. I really want to build a 60% with a split space bar with the function key in the middle so that I can hit it with my thumb instead of pinky.
Whenever I need to use arrow keys on my Anne Pro 2, I just hold CAPSLOCK while using WASD. Works like a charm, and way easier than holding ctrl or function keys.
Hey great content, can’t wait for your next tech review. Was wondering what your thoughts are on Parvum Systems PC cases and Rama Works new upcoming machined aluminum case?
the mecha mini (effectively the one 2 mini with a full aluminum case) imo sounds better than the plastic version, but it’s obviously more expensive as well, the stabs are really shockingly good if you’re coming from a Corsair keyboard.
I'm still trying to find a really good 75% keyboard. 65% is the smallest I'd consider since I use the arrow keys too often. And there's literally no reason not to add function keys since I'm only concerned with getting the length down, so 75% is ideal for me. The 75% GMMK PRO looks really promising, but I'd have to spend closer to $300 after the switches, keycaps, etc., which I'm not willing to spend on a keyboard. If Glorious got their GMMK Pro, Glorious Pandas, and keycaps together into a premade keyboard for around $200, then I'd really consider buying one, especially if the switches were pre-lubed.
You should have a look at the Keychron K6 either the base model or the aluminium hot swappable version; BT or wired can be paired to 3 devices, 65% so a touch more forgiving than 60%, Mac or Win support, USB type C, no bloatware and onboard lighting control. Only cons I've found is non standard layout and needs special keycaps and the keys are ABS but they are decent so I'm not worried. I've been blown away by the quality and feels really good to type with for a budget board. I picked up the non hot swappable version on special for $69aud, as it's my first 65% from TKL I wanted to see if I'd like it rather then spend the extra. I definitely would have gone the hot swappable version if I'd know I'd be this happy with it but in saying that the optical browns feel great and I'm more than happy with them. I genuinely think the typing experience is way nicer and feels more premium than some of the top end Corsair, Razer and Logitech's I've tried or owned.
The Mecha Mini or one of the special edition Mecha's with the arrow keys take the cake for me. I have both, and I can decide which I like the most. I think $109 for the mecha mini is probably the best bang for your buck. Solid RGB, Good stabilizers, All-metal housing, and switches of your choice ( I have the silvers for an extra $10 on both).
I got a Ducky One 2 Mini for half the price on FB Marketplace, barelly used (no wear on main keycap) and still warranty for 1 year, original cable, all the additional keycap and he still had the box, for anyone looking for a good keyboard but for a good price, it's always worth the shot to look on the used market.
Don’t sleep on Durgod! I have the Hades, which is 65% but the Venus is a 60% version. I’m a mk addict and I’ve built $1200 boards. No exaggeration, the Durgods are just as high quality, if not better, than many keyboards that cost over 10 times as much. The Durgods use a thick aluminum case, heavy backplate, foam sound deadening, full featured software and internal memory for driver-free usage, best stabs in the industry (absolutely ZERO rattle on the shift and space), and they’re available to order with all the best switch options (which all come lubed from the factory). I’ve been using my Hades with Cherry Silent Reds as my work keyboard (so 40+ hours per week) for the past year and it still feels brand new. Actually it feels even better now that the Cherrys are broken in. Can’t recommend these boards enough.
As an owner of a 60%, I'd recommend that people go for 65% if they grab one instead. I can do without function keys, but the delete key and arrow keys are a pretty big miss on the 60% form factor.
The motospeed CK61 looks like a Christmas tree at 09:36.. damn.. And Ali, taking the chance here, would like to see a "Finding the best 65% Keyboard" video !! Would certainly be nice !!
i think you missed the Durgod Venus, 60% layout, aluminum case, lubed stabs, amazing rgb, shine through cherry profile doubleshot pbt keycaps, pre instaled dampening foam. the board looks, sounds and works great.
Is mechanical versus membrane a personal thing for gaming? Like do mechanical actually offer an advantage as I don't miss those sounds as a laptop user!
"zero" rattle on the ducky one 2 mini is a bit of an overstatement since theres still a decent amount of rattle from an enthusiast perspective, still relatively good compared to other gaming keyboards
yeah, it's also the one that breaks your wallet the most i get it, build quality, customization, feeling, and so on, but a keyboard should not cost as much as a mid ranged gpu (when gpus are priced like gpus, not like small used cars)
i think the build quality of the hunstman mini has gotten better, i tried one at my local jbhifi and there was no rattle at all, it was completely smooth
Durgod Venus is a good competitor for the ducky, but I prefer durgod due to one reason. The space bar is rounded and very comfortable. For games like Apex, the space bar is one change you notice the most. As for the rest of it, the stabs are one of the best off the shelf, and the sound is quite nice being lubed.
As someone who have 60% and 80% keyboard for daily use, I wish all the Function key is still on top of the keyboard instead of binding them into the number key. I found that 70% keyboard is just right, however most of them also does not have the function keys.
Why is it that all the manufacturers (except for that of the Anne Pro, apparently) insist on messing up the layout of Shifted keys? Half of them go with a side-by-side layout and the other half go with the Shifts being backwards (what should be on top is now on the bottom). Shifted symbols are supposed to be on top (not on the bottom and not to the left or the right). In the good old days, when you held that Shift key, the carriage lifted up and let the upper part of the striker hit the paper. When they mess with the standard layout on the keys, it just messes with my old brain so I don't know what's Shifted and what's not.
i got my dygma raise a few days ago. it uses a 60% layout, but also has 8 extra buttons for the thumbs, and its a split keyboard. i can never go back to a regular board, i love it. im using kailh speed copper with varmilo pbt keycaps.
Coolermaster SK622 is the best because : Cherry MX RED ( low profile fast for gamers) , Wireless, RGB , Aluminum construction, 120 euros price , no rumble on keycaps ... what else do u want ?
Any other 60% gaming keyboards that you guys would recommend?
Let me know down below!
Also streaming tomorrow, 12pm start Sydney time www.twitch.tv/optimum_tech
Nice video ready for the stream tonight
The new cooler master one can't remember its name though
i think Royal Kludge is also a good option out there
Keychron hot swap
Rk61 and dz60
1:28 razer huntsman mini
3:10 asus rog falchion
5:21 gmmk compact
7:13 ducky one 2 mini
9:00 motospeed ck61
9:41 anne pro 2
10:52 conclusion (which boards are better in his opinion)
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Ducky one 3 mini is better I got it and swapped the switches for gateron milky yellow pros it's super nice
3:18 - damn that transition was smooth!
Go watch Remove Before Race.
@@idyllsend6481 why?
@@bruhfard3886 For their transitions.
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@@idyllsend6481 ur just jealous lol
@@idyllsend6481 also you shouldn't compare
I've been on 60% for years, although my absolute favourite is the Vortex vibe with cherry clears which is a 60% with a numpad attached.
I recently picked up the Glorious GMMK with the Glorious Panda's and it's probably my favourite keyboard to date - can highly recommend the Panda's for anyone who likes Clears
Does it have good response time?
Pandas are tactile so if you’ve been an avid user of linear or any cherry switches. I would avoid pandas
@@letitflow456tactile feel so good tho
One more thing to know about the Ducky One 2 Mini (which maybe other keyboards support this but nobody ever really talks about it) is that you can on a hardware level make the Caps Lock key an Fn key. This feature for me makes it a viable main keyboard replacement as the Caps Lock button is so much easier to press than the regular Fn key at the bottom right. For example, this especially makes it much easier to access the right handed function keys compared to if you had to press them while also trying to hold down the right hand side Fn key.
Anne pro 2 also has that
Gmmk to
Honestly, the Anne Pro II is the best. Having that tap arrow key function is the deal-breaker.
The bottom right 4 keys are arrow keys if you tap them, and they're their original binds if you hold them, so you can use the right shift/ctrl as you would normally on a bigger keyboard.
Actually depends of the specs of who wins but in the most favorite depends of the community expierence whit the keyboard (time, defects, quality, pros and the most used) and later is the yours opinion what 1. Why do you like it. 2. Know the bad parts what you dont like or the problem of the keyboard itself. 3.You need to know what theres a lot better keyboards 4. Accept other person opinions about yours and other keyboards
At specs wins the huntsman obiously
At community is more like a race because u dont know who is the favorite of the most of the peoplw
And yours what is the Anne Pro 2
you know its getting cold in australia whe Ali is wearing a hoodie
Can confirm. I'm from Sydney and the last few weeks have been getting chilly.
Didn't know such a thing was possible.
what's the ambient temp. there, I mean in sydney?
@@scares3859 around 15c now around midnight, 21ish during the day
@@matt42hughes gets lower than that depending on where in Sydney you are. Gets down to 10c some evenings. Weak shit for anyone in North America or Europe though 😅 it doesn't really get below freezing here
You forgot something about the ducky that is actually a good selling point, it doesn’t need any software to work or change in between light/macro profiles, it is all saved on the board 👍🏻
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CORRECTED TEXT: By my Students - You did well to give them homework on
how not to write poorly structured sentences.
You forgot to mention that the Ducky One 2 Mini has a good selling
point in it does not need any software to work or change between
light and macro profiles, it is all saved on the board.
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and pay attention to detail: it is not ducky - it is Ducky One 2 Mini -
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@@andrew_koala2974 what the fuck.
@@thefallen1383 just some no life youtube commenter
@@thefallen1383 lamo
@@andrew_koala2974 🖕
I have the Huntsman Mini and made the foam and tape mod and luped all the stabilizers. Now the keyboard feels and sound absolutely amazing. I also added the razer wrist rest and taped it with a strip of double sided foam tape to the Huntsman Mini. In my opinion one, when not the best, 60% keyboard for everyone who won't build a custom one.
I freaking love this keyboard and see no reason the switch to a different one.
I did the same thing, I fought for 4 hours with Krytox 205, Eva rubber, I put in the space 3 dampener rings, custom coiled cable and gskill crystal crown keycaps 😂
It's x100 better now and without rattle.
Got Anne Pro 2 as my first mechanical keyboard, 60% is really the perfect fit!
Anne pro 2 is pulling sick value now that unofficial qmk firmware is supported here. Definitely would be my choice over GMMK.
Would that be better than like the huntsmen? It’s only 90 dollars rn too
@@jakekalchthaler9106 yes, the huntsman has switches so rattly and scratchy, you're Better off using membrane over it
3:18 that was a slick bg change
Your channel is basically the only channel where I watch Every. Single. Video. Love it. I currently have an Anne Pro 2 and it was a huge step up from my previous generic Logitech membrane keyboard. Next step I think is to lube the switches and stabs.
@Set Sett As Set I have had some issues like that. With the wired connection I found that the included type c cable didn’t work well. I ended up buying a braided aftermarket one and don’t have any issues with it. Also if I just unplugged and replugged in the stock one it worked fine, but I had to do that about 1/2 the time I restarted my PC. Bluetooth takes some time the first time I connected it to my Mac, but after a few tries it connected and I don’t have any problems there now either.
@Set Sett As Set It was frustrating at first and it took me a while to actually figure out why it was acting strange, but now that I have it figured out I’m completely happy with it. Don’t see myself getting a different board for a long time.
@Set Sett As Set dont buy it, its a mess…
This reinforces stance of Ali's future career of "hand modeling"
Ok so the test didn’t do justice in this video; but the huntsman mini (linear switch) that he used is super duper insanely quiet. Like,
such an underrated youtube channel for these good of videos, keep up the great work
454k subs really. This is not an underrated channel
underrated doesn't mean not popular
@@julianmellano_23 you get me
Im using the CK61 in Red Switches and i lubed the switches and mod the stabilizers. A great keyboard for the value, been using it for 2 months and no complaints honestly after the stabilizer mod and lubed switches the keyboard is wayy better and worth it.
Really surprised by the ROG Falchion, I've never even heard of it but the fact that its 65% and with good wireless is really cool. You could mod it by desoldering the switches and replacing them with some nice lubed ones but of course that takes time and money + it usually voids the warranty. Interesting board nevertheless.
Edit: after checking out the price I can't say it would really be worth buying because you could build a damn good custom keyboard for less than or equal to that...
asus really make shit in 'soldering' swithces in this keyboard.
but.. is best than all others 'CHINESE" communist keyboards.
In my opinion get the Anne Pro 2. The Anne Pro 2’s advantage over this list is the customizability with key functionality. Using the software you can even move things like your Fn key so you can access your F1-12 while using one hand (I swapped my Fn with my windows key) this simple swap basically negated my fear of leaving behind tkl layouts. Also QMK works on this keyboard so tinkerers can literally make this thing do anything they want with it
I'm new to PC gaming 1 year later do you still recommend this keyboard ?
@@dimarco1226 yes I’m still
Using it now. Only thing that sucks is it’s not hot swappable but I only use it for FPS so I just use linear switches but I love it that I can make any key do anything even the windows and function modifier key. The software to do it is basic but gives you what you need.
@@huntertodd3744 is the wireless on it good?
@@Gregor7000 i never use the wireless tbh cant tell ya.
0:39 "For example, if you're a tryhard e-sports gamer like myself..."
Hahah no need to be so humble Ali!
Using a keyboard on an angle is so cringe and useless
@@bartfelix2949 I disagree with how you feel about having a keyboard angled. How you have your keyboard is all up to your personal preference, most of the time I have it slightly angled downwards to the right, due to my keyboard being huge, though some have it that way for many different reasons, either it be their keyboards are huge or small. It’s not exactly useless to have your keyboard on an angle, as for the reasons written above.
Sometimes I even change up and have it in it’s normal position with no tilts or anything, it just depends on how I’m feeling that day.
He has wraith heirloom hes a tryhard 100%
@@Yada_690 What's that?
An extremely rare 1/500 chance item that is basically a melee skin (used instead of punching)that only people who play apex legends alot have
On the Razer, I like the fact that you can keep your fingers on the home row for using arrow pad, with the right pinky holding Fn. Good for teh CLI. Also Razer's software for customized effects is pretty awesome.
Anne pro 2 for me. I’ve had great (and expensive) custom boards and they were amazing but the pro 2 is such a damn good deal imo.
facts, got mine few months ago and its been perfect for me, gaming and typing for school work.
My Anne pro doesn’t work on ps5 any idea why?
Which switches would you recommend?
@@qesho5748 box reds
60% keyboards are the definition of "you paid more for less?"
Numpad sure everything else is a fn key and apple has done it for decades. Also my gaming keybord i only use like 20 keys max anyways
You could've also added the Keychron K6, which is 65%, bluetooth and starts at 70$.
For and additional 30$ you'll also get RGB backlightning, an aluminium frame and hot-swap sockets.
The stabs come pre-lubed; the major downsight are the stock keycaps (ABS, feel rather cheap).
that hoodie is clean as your video as always ❤️
I wanted to get my first mechanical and 60% keyboard (never had either). I needed something budget so I went with the Redragon K530. Cost about $60, has really good build quality for the price, a ton of awesome features that you normally wouldn't find at the price (it has Bluetooth with 3 different connections that you can switch between, although I use it wired). It has Brown switches which I really like as it's a good balance between Blue and Red (I've tried both). Oh and yeah the switches are hot swappable, and it comes with one Black, Red, and Blue switch so you can try them out before you go and buy a new set. Definitely a great budget option (I think it's cheaper now), and I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a budget 60% mechanical keyboard. As an FPS gamer (Apex Legends baby), I'm never going back to a bigger keyboard.
Brown is not a good balance between red and blue. Red is a linear switch, blue a clicky tactile switch and brown is a normal tactile switch. You should lube the switches to get a better sound.
Red dragons browns are a linear switch I have the same one.
You NEEDED to include the HK Gaming Venus in this list. It is incredibly competitively priced for what you get. I barely see anyone talking about this board, but it is one of the best on the market.
Agreed
@@eman6784 and the case has dampening foam.
I don't like to be preachy, but they are a pretty shady company. I'm neutral with companies making clone keycap sets, but to challenge and dare the keycap designer in question to sue them is really, really taking it a step too far (i cant remember who but that particular designer made a post on r/mk about their email communications). Eventhough their products are really good for the price, their interactions with fellow community members left a sour taste in my mouth :/
@@12345678946513 hk gaming just resells the durgod
venus lol
@@12345678946513 I agree, it’s just that hk sells it, they aren’t the one who makes it, durgod makes it
If you're looking for a keyboard that doesn't sound rattly on stock, I highly recommend picking up the Anne Pro 2. All the firmware updates pretty much resolved the bluetooth issues it had on release. I got mine for roughly 60 usd on gateron reds. But you also have other switch options like kaihl box and cherry mx. Imho, cherry mx red sounds so much scratchier than gateron reds.
Running the Asus ROG Falchion for gaming and I am loving it for the most part. I did install O-ring dampers on all keys which resolved the bottoming out noise and it feels excellent. However, There is an Achilles heel. I have large hands and so using the left Shift key when sprinting in Warzone etc. I tend to put pressure on left hand side of the key which is using a metal wire with stabilisers and the key can bind up once the pressure across the key is not centred and I have died multiple times because the key got stuck as a result. Love the vids /peace
Everyone is talking about gaming with these keyboards but these keyboards are also amazing for programming. I got the Ducky One 2 Mini (Mecha) last year and you can easily remap the arrows to HJKL. All remaps are done straight from the keyboard so there is no need to install any software. So if you're using tools with vim keybindings you can now keep your fingers on HJKL for tools without vim keybindings as well. I have caps lock remapped to enter the first layer which will turn HJKL into left, down, up & right.
I’m always impressed by the quality of your videos and you cover a lot of great topics, I hope your channel sees a lot of growth this year you deserve it.
I built myself a budget custom board, and I just cannot go back to prebuilt boards. However, Anne pro 2 and ducky one 2 mini definitely deserve a recommendation. For me, personally, the Anne pro 2 got me into the 60% design, customization and in general made me inquisitive about keyboards.
What time is your stream
REALLY excited for the stream. I missed a few cuz school
12pm Sydney time tomorrow :)
@@optimumtech excellent
@@optimumtech so for me it would 9pm on saturday?😁
@@senseicheems3270 We don't know your timezone? How are we supposed to know?
@@coolevlo1 oh i live in texas
Just got the HyperX Alloy Origins 60 percent keyboard with red switches recently and it's an awesome keyboard for gaming and just typing in general! Also it is really heavy which I like since it never really moves around on your desk.
Whoa that rattle was hardcore. :D
I love my huntsmen mini with the red switches. But I modded it a lot. It came sounding pretty nasty. But I did the foam mod. I tighten up every single stabilizer on the switches. I lubed the long stabilizers with krytox GPL205. I use 2-3 o-rings on every single key cap to dampen the depress strokes “and that made a huge difference believe it or not”. I switched out the key caps for pudding for the rgb. With those simple mods it’s so quite and sounds like a membrane keyboard now and I honestly love that. It’s so quite you don’t hear anything but has a great feel extremely smooth key stroke that you don’t get with a membrane keyboard. And I also did the magnetic quick disconnect cable to make for easy movement around the house and to store it when not in use being it came with no dust cover.
Did not know the Asus Falchion existed. Thanks for that. Had a Drevo Blademaster Pro and it broke in a year. Using a Corsair K63 wireless but angle is too low for me. Was leaning towards Logitech G915 tkl because I want wireless, but will give the Asus a shot instead!
I bought the Vortex Race 3 RGB MX silent red switches (75% keyboard) some weeks ago and I am pretty happy with it. It's the perfect mixture between a keyboard for gaming (my desk is really small) but also for other productivity-related stuff like writing text or programming. My cousin has a 60% and the missing f-keys and the missing arrow keys are really bad if you are used to them. I found 75% Keyboards to fit my needs as a hybrid between gaming and productivity pretty well.
Been using a Ducky Mecha Mini for nearly a year and I love the keyboard, especially with the bottom 4 right special keys remapped to arrow keys without FN. Having the fully metal chassis also improves the bottoming out sound, it’s all but gone, and weighs a metric ton lmao
I am currently typing on a GK64, which is a 60% keyboard with squished arrow block in the corner. From time to time I upgraded various parts of it to better ones so it sounds and feels pretty good now.
Do u mean gk61?
@@Goatlence The GK61 does not have arrow key my guy. He definetly mean GK64.
Great video and superb editing as always. Did u got the chance to test the HyperX Alloy Origins 60?
I have got the Keymove 61. It's a pretty unknown brand but it has got everything that I want as a keyboard:
Bluetooth 5.0 or higher
No floating keycaps
60%
Function and arrow keys (they are layered but that personally doesn't bother me in the slightest)
Mechanical
Hot swappable
Every key right next to eachother with no spacing in between them
Bulky
USB C
Not a requirement of mine but it has also got RGB for the people who find that of great importance
65% is easily my fav. I went from full size to tkl to 65%. I am currently on the kbd67lite hotswap board. I used gateron cap yellow(gold) because they are great for gaming and typing. These switches are lubed from the factory.
SAME EXACT BUILD LOL
why not just 60% do you need the arrows ?
@@speshalgaming1296 i use page up/down, home, and delete. Arrows are nice but I rarely use them.
@@iJansport i never use page up down and home , delete button i do miss on my corsair k65 mini , i do have razer blackwidow v3 mini , and i can't use those small actuation point switches as i rest my fingers on my keyboard and they register , cherry mx red is nice for me , but this k6( mini is uncomfortable for me so high
IMO best cheap 60 % keeb "everyone" can build: GMMK Compact hot-swap (do band-aid mod and lube stabs with thick lube), then get some cheap decent quality PBT keyset, and finally get some custom switches (my choice is Kaihl BOX switches, love my clicky BOX Jade switches for typing, but they are super loud and not best for gaming). SERIOUSLY, get switch tester kit with multiple type of switches (clicky, tactile and linear) before you buy full switch kit, it saves you alot money in the long run!
Keyboard is one thing. Covering those biceps is another. Great video as always Ali.
I bought a Razer Huntsman Mini with Red Switches about a month ago, I came from a BlackWidow Elite and I absolutely love it!
I bought it 15% cheaper through education bonus, and I foam-modded the case and spray-lubed all of the swiches, now it’s almost inaudible.
65% but nullbits nibble is the best for gaming I’ve found, arrow keys + left macro row rocks
These Timestamps r for me, Im saving the vid for the future.
1:26 - Razor Huntsman Mini
3:09 - Asus ROG Falchion
5:21 - GGMK Compact
7:12 - Ducky One 2 Mini
8:56 - Motospeed CK61
9:41 - Anne Pro 2
ok
Ringing like it's christmas XD. Especially for us custom keeb guys.
yeah the spring ping is pretty bad
@Jai Pant international orders bro, kinetic labs, and a few others, kinetic labs majorly
@Jai Pant rn I don't think you'll be able to order cause of covid, but you can look at options from banggood(mk/sk61), they're really good, with a bit of generic lube from Amazon they sound amazing as well
@Jai Pant I don't think AliExpress has keyboards, but I don't have any experience with that, also the reviews were sketchy, my recommendation would be to go with banggood if you're interested in a budget build
@Jai Pant sk64 you'll be able to get in a few months from meckeys.com at a very good price (it's a safe site don't worry), but 205g0 you won't find anywhere in India, you'll either have to order in internationally, or if it's your 1st time building a keyboard, you can go for a semi thick silicone lube from Amazon, it'll save you a LOT of money any barely makes a difference if you don't have the ear for it
65% for me. Can't live without my arrow and navigation keys. The Royal Kludge rkG67 is a pretty decent keyboard. It has 2.4 ghz wireless connection for better latency than bluetooth and is moddable af.
You need to get the HK Gaming Durgod Hades 68 and the Venus. They are fantastic for the price and the stabs are really good too!
I personally use a 65% keyboard myself as I need the extra keys and the shorter space/shift/enter really don’t bother me.
Great video as always 👍🏻
1000% Agree my Hades is much better than my ducky in key aspects. One thing I'd add is some dampening foam in the case as it's quite pingy
@@lordeddardstark769 so about that.. I opened up my Hades and it now comes with foam inside it. I got mine a few months back with Gat Yellows. Lubed the switches and everything. That’s when I realised the foam. It’s thin, but it’s there..
@@atthelord yeah I've had mine for about a year, maybe the newer ones have it but I just used some packing foam and most of the pinging went. That metal frame is much better than the plastic ducky one
I’ve been gaming on 60% for years and so many people give me weird looks. I love it and of you use the FN you don’t lose any functionality. I really want to build a 60% with a split space bar with the function key in the middle so that I can hit it with my thumb instead of pinky.
oh yeah this is the video I've been waiting for 😍
Whenever I need to use arrow keys on my Anne Pro 2, I just hold CAPSLOCK while using WASD. Works like a charm, and way easier than holding ctrl or function keys.
I would honestly also have the Hyperx Origins 60% keyboard too - it’s quite good for under a 100 dollars
I love my Anne Pro 2 it's a very good keyboard definitely would recommend it
no i have it to dont get me wrong its not bad by any means but theres better for the price
@@reevx4258 I suppose there are better but it's still my favorite right now
@@reevx4258 whats better for the price then
@@reevx4258 what's better?
Have had the Anne Pro 2 for over two years without a singe issue
My favorite one is the 65K mini from Corsair. It has full functionality using two FN keys as well as mouse inputs.
Damn, that razer one sounds awful. Gotta say I'm pretty happy with my Anne Pro 2, best for the money imo
True
razer aren't good in general tbh
@@pixsled their mice are
@@Liam-co1bw yeah I heard they're ok, the keebs are dogshite tho
@@pixsled for the price ye they have atrocious stabs
Got my Anne Pro 2 for $45 in China. Can't beat that value.
From which site man!?
@@samehbakeer4910 From Taobao when I was there a couple of years ago
@@benjiang2600 Ok thanks!
Hey great content, can’t wait for your next tech review. Was wondering what your thoughts are on Parvum Systems PC cases and Rama Works new upcoming machined aluminum case?
1:25 Razer Huntsman Mini 3:10 Asus ROG Falchion 5:18 GMMK Compact 7:10 Ducky One 2 Mini 9:00 Motospeed CK61 9:40 Anne Pro 2 :}
man this channel is growing on me
The custom tufo 60 at the end sounded amazing that is literally what I want
the mecha mini (effectively the one 2 mini with a full aluminum case) imo sounds better than the plastic version, but it’s obviously more expensive as well, the stabs are really shockingly good if you’re coming from a Corsair keyboard.
I'm still trying to find a really good 75% keyboard. 65% is the smallest I'd consider since I use the arrow keys too often. And there's literally no reason not to add function keys since I'm only concerned with getting the length down, so 75% is ideal for me. The 75% GMMK PRO looks really promising, but I'd have to spend closer to $300 after the switches, keycaps, etc., which I'm not willing to spend on a keyboard. If Glorious got their GMMK Pro, Glorious Pandas, and keycaps together into a premade keyboard for around $200, then I'd really consider buying one, especially if the switches were pre-lubed.
Hey man, what I would get is the Gamakay k87 and mod it. I was going to get this keyboard and the Alpaca v2 switches.
@@ties9123 Unfortunately that's a full TKL. I'm looking for something closer to 65% or 75% (basically 65% with the function row).
@@SirSethery gamakay k66?
Don't have any experience with it so I don't know what it's like but the keychron k3 is kinda like that
@@ties9123 Yeah, that's closer, but I'd really like a function row
thank you, just what i needed
You should have a look at the Keychron K6 either the base model or the aluminium hot swappable version; BT or wired can be paired to 3 devices, 65% so a touch more forgiving than 60%, Mac or Win support, USB type C, no bloatware and onboard lighting control. Only cons I've found is non standard layout and needs special keycaps and the keys are ABS but they are decent so I'm not worried. I've been blown away by the quality and feels really good to type with for a budget board. I picked up the non hot swappable version on special for $69aud, as it's my first 65% from TKL I wanted to see if I'd like it rather then spend the extra. I definitely would have gone the hot swappable version if I'd know I'd be this happy with it but in saying that the optical browns feel great and I'm more than happy with them. I genuinely think the typing experience is way nicer and feels more premium than some of the top end Corsair, Razer and Logitech's I've tried or owned.
The Mecha Mini or one of the special edition Mecha's with the arrow keys take the cake for me. I have both, and I can decide which I like the most. I think $109 for the mecha mini is probably the best bang for your buck. Solid RGB, Good stabilizers, All-metal housing, and switches of your choice ( I have the silvers for an extra $10 on both).
I got a Ducky One 2 Mini for half the price on FB Marketplace, barelly used (no wear on main keycap) and still warranty for 1 year, original cable, all the additional keycap and he still had the box, for anyone looking for a good keyboard but for a good price, it's always worth the shot to look on the used market.
What’s your opinion on one-handed “half-size” keyboards for gaming?
Don’t sleep on Durgod! I have the Hades, which is 65% but the Venus is a 60% version. I’m a mk addict and I’ve built $1200 boards. No exaggeration, the Durgods are just as high quality, if not better, than many keyboards that cost over 10 times as much. The Durgods use a thick aluminum case, heavy backplate, foam sound deadening, full featured software and internal memory for driver-free usage, best stabs in the industry (absolutely ZERO rattle on the shift and space), and they’re available to order with all the best switch options (which all come lubed from the factory). I’ve been using my Hades with Cherry Silent Reds as my work keyboard (so 40+ hours per week) for the past year and it still feels brand new. Actually it feels even better now that the Cherrys are broken in. Can’t recommend these boards enough.
Do you ever have a look at compact, thin keyboards? Seems I'm in the minority of liking these very "SFF" keyboards, for general use and portability.
As an owner of a 60%, I'd recommend that people go for 65% if they grab one instead. I can do without function keys, but the delete key and arrow keys are a pretty big miss on the 60% form factor.
The motospeed CK61 looks like a Christmas tree at 09:36.. damn..
And Ali, taking the chance here, would like to see a "Finding the best 65% Keyboard" video !! Would certainly be nice !!
I recently ordered a ducky one 2 mini, im getting it in about 3 days, im super excited to finally try it out
Let me know how it goes!
@@nebcrr I’ve got one and it’s really solid I’d recommend it
Which switches did you get?
I find 75% to be the sweetspot.
I find just WASD to be the sweetspot
Best layout by far
I like 45% more
I like 78% more
Same 75%
i think you missed the Durgod Venus, 60% layout, aluminum case, lubed stabs, amazing rgb, shine through cherry profile doubleshot pbt keycaps, pre instaled dampening foam. the board looks, sounds and works great.
Is mechanical versus membrane a personal thing for gaming? Like do mechanical actually offer an advantage as I don't miss those sounds as a laptop user!
Mechanical feels a lot better, sound better and just better quality. If you get a hot swappable keyboard you can just choose what switch you want.
Usually mechanical keyboards have a better typing feel and depending on the switch they can register presses faster or using less force
they are faster, especially when you get used to them!
"zero" rattle on the ducky one 2 mini is a bit of an overstatement since theres still a decent amount of rattle from an enthusiast perspective, still relatively good compared to other gaming keyboards
GK61 Is considered the fastest 60% keyoard.
Speed doesn't matter
@@sorenuzi6856 For me it does Everyone has an opinion
What u mean fastest, that just depends on the switch you get.
@@ties9123 yeah I know
Where'd you get that info?
imo plastic actually has better sound acoustics than metal if it's thick enough. Check the KB67 lite
The best keyboard is the one you make yourself!
build
True. I bought a gk61x then some pudding keycaps and hk gaming pro sky blue switches and it’s pretty nice
yeah, it's also the one that breaks your wallet the most
i get it, build quality, customization, feeling, and so on, but a keyboard should not cost as much as a mid ranged gpu (when gpus are priced like gpus, not like small used cars)
@@mattgavioli6762 ?? What kind of money do you spend on your keyboards. Mine was at least $100-120
@@impartial6119 mine was 120€ because i had a great deal on it, but custom keyboards are easily 200-300+, and imho is a bit too much
i think the build quality of the hunstman mini has gotten better, i tried one at my local jbhifi and there was no rattle at all, it was completely smooth
what about the wooting 60 he?
Now this is what I'm talking!
I was looking for 60% gaming keyboard videos this few days.
Have you tried any Keychron boards?
Love my new K6.
road to 1mill man, content is sick
More keyboard videos? 😋
Durgod Venus is a good competitor for the ducky, but I prefer durgod due to one reason. The space bar is rounded and very comfortable. For games like Apex, the space bar is one change you notice the most. As for the rest of it, the stabs are one of the best off the shelf, and the sound is quite nice being lubed.
Pfffft 60%? Try 40%
There is none keed
Wake up lil man respond my boi
@@Serious_Blol, its a joke buddy, plus that comment was 2 years ago.
@@Serious_Blol 2 year old comment. 🤡
Haha, 40%? That’s pathetic, try my 20% keyboard.
the glorious compact felt bad because you got browns , the only way it could have been worse was if you got cherry MX browns instead of Gateron
Just like always, razer keyboard makes so many unnecessary noises and sounds. terrible built quality for this price.
I don’t know if anyone is gonna read this comment but I have a question what do you think about gateron speed silver switch (lubed)?
Huntsman mini linear ftw! Got one and 1000% happy.
Which Keyboard u had before?
As someone who have 60% and 80% keyboard for daily use, I wish all the Function key is still on top of the keyboard instead of binding them into the number key.
I found that 70% keyboard is just right, however most of them also does not have the function keys.
Why is it that all the manufacturers (except for that of the Anne Pro, apparently) insist on messing up the layout of Shifted keys? Half of them go with a side-by-side layout and the other half go with the Shifts being backwards (what should be on top is now on the bottom). Shifted symbols are supposed to be on top (not on the bottom and not to the left or the right). In the good old days, when you held that Shift key, the carriage lifted up and let the upper part of the striker hit the paper. When they mess with the standard layout on the keys, it just messes with my old brain so I don't know what's Shifted and what's not.
i got my dygma raise a few days ago. it uses a 60% layout, but also has 8 extra buttons for the thumbs, and its a split keyboard. i can never go back to a regular board, i love it. im using kailh speed copper with varmilo pbt keycaps.
Ducky Mecha Mini is what I use, incredible keyboard.
Coolermaster SK622 is the best because : Cherry MX RED ( low profile fast for gamers) , Wireless, RGB , Aluminum construction, 120 euros price , no rumble on keycaps ... what else do u want ?
75% layout is superior with 84 keys. F row and still very compact. No compromises.