Stop Buying Bad & Expensive Gaming Keyboards...
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- At the ToastyBros we test TONS of keyboards, and while we’re no experts, we’d like to think of ourselves as enthusiasts! We promise, after watching this video, you will think twice about buying that name-brand keyboard you’ve been eyeing!
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Windows On-Screen Keyboard is the GOAT
trackpad only for the win 🤣🤣🤣
facts
bro thats what im using rn my keyboard broke😂
one of the best reactiontime on the market
ok now go make a video of you "gaming" with the windows on-screen keyboard.
Expensive doesn't always mean it's the best
True like logitech
@dav07 Bought my Logie G502X mouse at half price. Definitely not spending $80ish on a Logie mouse.
Facts
What's a good budget webcam? It could be 720p or 1080p.
Fr I could’ve bought a 2.2 million dollar all white Bugatti Chiron but instead got a 2009 Toyota Prius because the Chiron doesn’t even have cup holders😭
Can I use milk switches if I am lactose intolerant?
I wouldn't. The milk could get through the pores on your fingers. 😂
Should cows be offended?
I would not recommend
Can vegans?
I say just tolerate it lol 😂
oh man, last i watched a video from this channel, it had like maybe couple of thousand subscribers. glad to see y'all have come a long away. best wishes
Am I the only person who still requires a numpad on my keyboard? It's becoming increasingly harder to find a good quality keyboard with a number pad. I use it for work just as much as I use the keyboard for gaming, so it's not negotiable for me.
I have a detached num pad I use for work and put it away after work, wouldn’t have it any other way
i need a numpad for the games i play. so i hope the trend stops.
heard the vgn s99 is good, has numpad!
I play Eve online and X4 so numpad is required due to spreadsheets.
I love me a numpad.
Bought an ajazz ak992 and a Aula F99. Both have numpads. After mods the ajazz one is nice, the Aula was great out of the box.
Wait.. hold up.. you hit the space button with your first finger?
I saw that and was like: Well that's not proper form.
It hurt me when I saw it.
Look I never said I was the best typist lol -Jonah
@@ToastyBros kek
@@ToastyBros sorry bud. I guess they don't teach typing anymore in schools. I'm old.
Would've been nice if you actually showed some full-size keyboards.
Not a fan of using keyboards that lack particular keys (the Numpad being the biggest example).
i would recommend having a look at 95% keyboard layouts from Royal Kludge or Yunzii that keep the numpad but get rid of the spacing in between! i use a Royal Kludge RK96 for my work computer and would recommend it even if you're keeping the stock switches and they would still be cheaper than the huntsman
Yup exclusively use full size keyboards unless I'm traveling.
I got a $35 keyboard with red cherry switches from some weird named Chinese company on Amazon, and I swear, its the best keyboard Ive ever used lol. Its really heavy, the typing sound is great, is backlit and has a volume knob!
whats the name of it
You do affiliate marketing and leave a link on your videos for the purchase of the keyboard. If anyone buys it then you'll get a percentage of the sell.
@@sobrietyisrad33 It sounds like the one I use. Koorui MK082. Its a really great budget gaming keyboard.
prob not cherry red, most like a brand called outemu, its like a cheaper lower quality copy of the cherry.
The Epomaker is the best deal here on sale, probably. I have a couple of super budget boards and once you get to the $50 range, they’re way better. F75 is ridiculously good.
Currently using the Yunzii C68 cat keyboard in coffee color with milk switches and it's amazing. For just under 100$ the stabs and switches are lubed, foam layers, steel plate, foam pad, film layer, socket foam, FULL Silicone rubber case with cat on top, it sounds and feels fucking amazing.
I highly recommend the VGN S99. It is a prebuilt on par with enthusiast level builds. Switches are silky smooth, and the sound is AMAZINGLY thoccy, all at $90.
im laughing so hard because my huntsman just broke which led me to this video and its the first one you hold up
How?
Its not even that old to go out of waranty.
@@biruteorvidiene3050 i got mine back in 21 so it is out of warranty sadly
@@redeyedninja7414 just stopped working no idea why, i opened it up the wiring was still fine, updated my drivers, updated windows did all the troubleshooting i possibly could and nothing sadly but i purchased the one from the AL71 and put my razor keycaps on it and i loveee it
did you end up buying a different keyboard to replace it or are you still using a razer keeb?
As a Aula F75 owner, I would recommend going with the Ice Vein switches! They have a even better sound.
You can actually get that keyboar in MANY other color themes!!
Probably the best pre-built keyboar you can buy on a budget
I appreciate being shown more budget options. Unfortunately, I'm one of those people who wants no less than a 100% keyboard, but the keyboards that sounded the best in your video were less than 100%. So, nothing is perfect, I guess. 😅
Aula Royal kludge and yunzii all have full sized keebs or 98%, which is everything a full size has, but removed unnecessary spacing.
the Royal Kludge S98 might also be a decent choice and it also have a LED screen built in.. I think its slightly more expensive than the F75 in the video... just a bit
i have an epomaker ep84 for my home computer which is a 75% and a royal kludge rk96 for my work computer which keeps the numpad but gets rid of all the unnecessary keys and spacing in the middle and i would recommend a similar layout!! plus it's still a really good price and sounds super nice! the great thing about custom keyboards compared to gaming keyboards is that you have so many options to choose from and it would be easy to find a keyboard that fits the way you game/work!
i have an epomaker ep84 for my home computer which is a 75% and a royal kludge rk96 for my work computer which keeps the numpad but gets rid of all the unnecessary keys and spacing in the middle and i would recommend a similar layout!! plus it's still a really good price and sounds super nice! the great thing about custom keyboards compared to gaming keyboards is that you have so many options to choose from and it would be easy to find a keyboard that fits the way you game/work!
edit: i got the rk96 for just under $100CAD from amazon! i spent an extra $60CAD just to get silent linear switches and new keycaps because i like having quieter switches at work but for it being about the same price as the huntsman, it is definitely way better and if you don't choose to change anything about it, it sounds great stock!
OK, to add on what they missed about the AULA F75, I would recommend going with reaper linear switches because they sound and feel better for gaming. The keyboard cable is kinda eh, but what matters more is the insane battery life it offers with or without RGB. Personally, I can use it wireless 1000hz for literally a whole month without charging. (without rgb a few hours each day) The best price for this keyboard is $64 on sale whch is insane. Definetly the best keyboard on this list thatI am literally using rn to type this up and I would recommend buying it!
I've been using the Redragon K632 Pro (60%) for around a year now. Wireless, Low Profile, Media Controls w/volume wheel and programable Macros. Absolutely zero complaints and it sits around $45 with regular sale prices below $40.
Redragon is cheap chinese crap tbh.
@@Diac13 I'm not going to disagree with that. I was saying that the features and longevity along with a cheap price are what matters to me. Especially if it lasts more than a few months.
@NeuroPicante yeah, I understand. Thing is for a couple dollars more you can buy a decent brand. So not worth it imo. If you're happy with it, it's fine.
@@Diac13They all are
@@youhdumbasf5862 Nope.
I never really realize how terrible my 100 dollar RAZR keyboard really was until I was playing an only up fortnite server and my space bar is so bad at handling hard repetition it actually makes me rather upset.. now I need to find something can handle 3 quick space bar hits without completely locking up...
I had the Razer V4, Logitech G715 and ROG Azoth, they sound and feel terrible compared to my 50usd stock Ajazz lmfao
@@djchoize295 can u recommend me the best keyboard?
@@djchoize295what ajazz did you get? I’m considering some budget keyboards for gaming but no one really does reviews for the gaming part specifically
@@user-wx2ph3nj8d Ajazz AK820 Max with sea salt V2 Switches, i just lubed it a little bit today and damn feels like cloud.
For gaming i would advise a switch swap@@user-wx2ph3nj8d
I have an RK96 and absolutely love this keyboard. Although the exterior frame may be plastic, the internal frame is metal and solid. I got the RK96 on sale for about 75 dollars iirc. It was a great upgrade from an LG mechanical keyboard, it was gifted and not my choice, but at an higher cost, less features, no hot swap-ability or RGB. Appreciated the gift, but would have chose differently.
I swapped out my old Corsair K55 membrane keyboard for a cheaper Redragon K556 mechanical keyboard with red switches. Gotta say, I'm really enjoying the keyboard. The software is something to be desired, as you have to download different software for EACH Redragon peripheral, but the quality is really nice and the switches are hot swappable. I also grabbed their pudding style keycaps and they are pretty nice considering the price (currently about $15 USD on their website).
The razer keyboard sounds like a membrane keyboard
It's utter plastic trash. Chinese aluminium custom keyboard market exploded in last 2-3 years. I wish I can go back in time and give myself advice not to waste money on Razer products.
@@StarFury2 It's a gaming keyboard. People care about the polling rate, actuation, software and features like Snap Tap. It's not a keyboard for productivity. Besides gaming, everything else is secondary. It's funny that you call the Razer Huntsman trash when it's actually so good that it's considered cheating in Counter Strike and being called for a ban. The Razer keyboard is an actual gaming keyboard that gives you an (unfair) advantage when gaming. The gaming part in the name actually is as advertised.
But sure, complain about how the typing sound is bad, on a gaming keyboard.
Any full sized keyboard options? I’m sick of these keyboards without numpads
Bang for buck? MageGee 105 key black and white with Yellow switches. It comes in at $36.
Mid-range? Keychron C2, with either red or brown switches for $66
High end? RK ROYAL KLUDGE S98 with Linear Viridian Switch. It is full, but is also squished together, but still has a num pad. It's $105 but it has the little screen on it, too.
@@PapaVanTwee5 those are some nice looking keyboards! Do you have any suggestions for ones with macro keys similar to the nuphy field 75 or logitech g915?
idk why gamers want keyboards that have no number pad
@@JakeInvest For me, it's because I've never used them. Ever. I genuinely don't know why you'd want them, especially for gaming. If you were doing accounting work, sure, but other than that, I really have no idea. I prefer TKL boards because I like my arrow keys and what comes with it. Do you actually use it when gaming? I always use the top row of numbers for keybinds, because I'm not about to reach over to a numpad for keybinds.
Great stuff! I has always been a Razer fanboy since I began gaming 15 or so years ago. I came to the party late as I’m now 57. However, I became frustrated with the Synapse software and feel the company in a rush to do everything … streaming gear, pc components, lighting, etc. … has sacrificed the quality of their keyboards and mice specifically. Not to mention the increasing cost of these items especially! So I picked up a cool keyboard from Drop that was $99 and fell in love with it! It’s important to get out there and explore as soon as many companies are producing amazing things and often at half the cost of the mainstream brands.
Great video guys! Please keep these kind of videos coming! Very helpful will defiantly be buying one of these cheaper options. Seems like it fits well with you budget friendly channel. GREAT WORK!
We'll definitely have to revisit more budget keyboards like these soon!
1:30 …I don’t think that anyone has ever claimed that the razer kb software is good
Wooting 80he might just be your best bet of a fast gaming keyboard(actually the fastest) and which also sounds and feels a lot better than those other gaming keyboards
I gotta say that I am a VERY happy owner of a €200 keyboard... I got the Wooting Two Lekker Edition when that was in its kickstarter. It was a limited edition. But your info on the Wooting is simply wrong (the ones you put on screen - Flaretech infrared. That was the info for the Wooting One which is simply no longer available. The current ones are using Lekker Hall Effect Switches which are produced by Gateron. And it's not just the speed that is a reason for getting a Wooting. It's the customisability. You can set manual actuation point. So your point about the typing experience when not gaming is not a thing. You can easily in their software set a profile for typing with something like a 1.8-2.5 mm actuation and one for gaming with 0.9-1.2 mm. And the fact that the software is run in the browser and saves to the keyboard so it doesn't need to run in the background also means it doesn't detract from the computer's performance like the software from Razer, Corsair, Steel Series and Logitech.
so true, im a happy owner of wooting 60 he, waiting for my 80he to come! its so different comparing to normal keyboards
My experience with my wooting is that i like pretty much everything on the keyboard but the feel of the switches. No matter how much i try i cant get used to linear when i have been gaming on cherry brown for over 10 years. I agree the software is 10/10.
Tip: When you was talking about the switches and the stabilizer, I would have liked to have seen it then, and not some hands rotating the keyboard around.
I lucked out and got a Corsair K68 for free, so I won't complain much.
I bought a Roccat Pyro from a local game store for $25, brought it home and cleaned it up. New caps and lube from AliExpress, grease and tape I already had from the hardware store. Replaced Swarm with OpenRGB and it's a $35 board with $120 feel and features.
That Razer sounds like arse out of the box.
I own a RK ROYAL KLUDGE R75 Mechanical Keyboard with Volume Knob, 75% and I love it. I did use a Glorious for years. The R75 is like 60 on Amazon, control the RGB from the keyboard, media knob, and love the clicky sound. No RGB software needed! Much recommended.
Sadly no full size proposition for people like me that use numpad keys a lot.
can I ask why
@@Snapion__probably a cashier
@@savagearma wouldn't they just have a keyboard at work then
@@Snapion__ in my country they still use full sized membrane keyboards that come with numpads by default
@@savagearma yea but for work surely that's good enough, I'd never take my personal keyboard to work but that's just me ig
Sadly the options for keyboards with any other layout than the usual American English layout is rather weak especially if you want a 100% keyboard. The gaming keyboards and Keychron are like the only ones offering that.
RK R65 is a very good keyboard. Bought several of them in white/green. I did a tape mod on it and, swapped the switches out for Akko Creamy Purple Pro which are tactile feeling (better than Cherry Brown) and swapped the keys out for some Pudding Caps. Looks nice, sounds, nice, feels great.
Thank you much for sharing this video! I've been curious, for quite some time whether splurging a sum on high end gaming keyboards is truly worth it or not Your insights have truly enlightened me to the realization that we often splurge unnecessarily for trendy brands or features that aren't essential The comparison you provided between budget friendly alternatives that offer comparable quality and performance was particularly insightful Now I have an idea of what factors to consider when selecting a keyboard to ensure I don't overspend and still enjoy a fantastic gaming experience Excited to see reviews and suggestions ahead. Appreciate the information provided!
I am def a tactile switch enjoyer. Not a fan at all of linear switches. My son recently wanted to buy a Razer keyboard, I showed him my pretty mid range Keycron with browns and he wanted that one immediately over a big name gaming keyboard.
Gamers generally don't want to tinker with building a keyboard. Depending on the switches and keycaps you want you may end up waiting quite a while before you actually get them. It isn't uncommon to have to wait a year or more for certain switches or keycaps. While I agree that you shouldn't just buy whatever prebuilt keyboard is out there, some like Wooting and Akko make good keyboards with great software. The only ones I'd avoid like the plague are the Glorious GMMKs. 56000¥ ($350USD) for a 75% KB is absurdly outrageous. I have an Akko MOD007 which I think is worth every penny of the 22000¥ ($140USD) I paid for it.
EDIT: Optical switches aren't all that good. They weren't good when they came out. Hall effect switches are so much better.
I bought RK as my first mechanical keyboard and I love it. I also appreciate the 2 usb a pass through
my goto build ive made for my friends is with the AL65 for the smaller form and you can get it barebones for around 60 usd.
if you want wireless go with the Weikav AL65 but base price for that is around 89 usd.
I usually like using gateron inks or akko rose reds for a more enjoyable typing sound but if you prefer a fast switch i like the jwk splash brothers and gateron speed silvers.
If you want a SUPER fast keyboard, invest in a rapid trigger magnetic switch keyboard
youre wild if you pick any of these keyboards over the new analog optical switches on the huntsman v3 line
Wooting smacked the market and the dudes behind it are so transparent and trustworthy 180€ for a brand new 60he and 210€ for a new 80he …hell yeah i pay that
I don’t know why but the sound of the backspace key specifically on the epomaker 40$ keyboard is so fucking good it makes my brain happy
Thank you so much. I’ve been looking into getting a new keyboard and I didn’t know where to start because I didn’t want to spend almost $200 on a keyboard. This has helped so much.
You can be super happy with these new ~$50 keyboards coming out (I actually have the R65 it is nice). Then if you're wanting to break into the "enthusiast" space with all the dumb nerds like me you can do some mods and get a super premium feeling board for sub $100
@@jestfulcompany9589like what mods persay. 😏
So, I am currently using my MageGee keyboard from amazon and the time I received this keyboard was early/mid covid (over 2 years) and it has been a warrior! However, the cord is becoming a bit dodging when connecting so I'm looking into getting a different keyboard.
One thing I notice about other reviews online is that, there aren't ones regarding a "long term" experience. I want to watch someone recommend me a product they've used personally and enjoy it. I guess it is lacking nowadays?
Thank you for the video! It was helpful to lead me in a good direction of brands!
I definitely prefer the feel of typing with the stabilizers on the razer keyboards over the feel and sound of the typing on the other keyboards. The more constrained action while still being a light press just feels more premium to me. The other keyboards just feel mushy in comparison.
This video is so badass. Thank you!! I'm a keyboard ASMR enthusiast and I have found brown switches to be ideal. What about a "Stop buying Bad & Expensive Gaming MICE" I have no idea where to start for a gaming mouse that is going to offer 2.4 and BT.
most good gaming mice dont really offer bt nowadays but i recommend the zaopin z2 which is good for both palm and claw grip. Xtrify and some other Chinese brands also offer bt solutions
I’ve had an RK61 with brown switches and loved it…. Now I’m on an RK100 and swapped in Akko cream yellow switches in, and couldn’t be happier. ALSO, SignalRGB detects a lot of keyboards so the color effects can be casted to your keyboard as well.
I always appreciate when big brands are taken down a notch, but judging gaming keyboards without even testing latency is an absolute joke.
There's a lot of nuance to the keyboard hobby. I like everything from "customs", to gaming keyboards to ancient IBM Model F keyboards from the 1980s. I'm currently typing this on a Razer Huntsman Mini with the purple clicky switches. There are things I love about it and things that I hate. There are also things I love and hate about custom keyboards. The only way to know what you will like is to try it.
7:47 I have an RK 60% keyboard with red switches, which serves as a backup in case my main keyboard goes down. It's super nice for games, but I actually did try the software and I don't like it. Their software needs a lot of polish.
I've got Royal Kludge & Redragon mechanicals that I have modded and customized. Great keyboards to build on honestly. Better than any of the pre built" keyboards from the pc gaming companies.
I recently modded my 2 years old stock redragon k552 kumara and oh boy. It thocks.
@@S1LENCE381 I have an off brand of that keyboard as well and same.
@@BelLavoroAutoSpa nice. 😀
When it comes to gaming keyboards the real issue i have is to find a proper non clickedy click mechanical one. I find those extremely annoying. (My first keyboard back in the 90s was a legendary ibm mechanial keyboard... yes it was cool back than but nowadays it just annoys the crap out of me.)
Ended up with a steelseries apex 3 tkl. Works fine for me. Just appears the market for non mechanical ones shrinks more and more.
The draw of these new mechanical keyboards is that they are very customizable the switches are swappable or you can buy them with the switches you want there are non clicky ones your not the only person who hates clickity clack and you can get them without that thankfully if you weren't aware that is a quick search of "quiet switches" will answer you on which to get.
The budget prebuilt space in mechanical keyboards is no joke, same can be said for entry-level custom boards. They constantly set the bar higher with each release and they put any store-bought board to shame😮💨
I think you meant dustproof stem switches.
Box switches are Kailh made switches with an entirely different actuation mechanic. While most mechanical keyboards have leaf springs inside, box switches - well - have a box inside that houses their... patented? actuator. It's suppose to make the switches water resistant and dustproof, though tbh it at least makes their switches feel different.
at the end they do say the razer is built for gaming performance. while the others are for overall button pressing enjoyment. so no dont stop buying expensive gaming keyboards if you want performance.
The nice things about keyboards is that they haven’t changed all that much in the last ~30 years.
And holy… these old boards can sound and feel just amazing for dirt cheap. Bought a 1990 IBM Model M for ~20 Dollars at a yard sale, bolt modded it, gave it a new membrane and man, this thing is fire! Probably not the best example for the greatest gaming board, but typing-wise this 2+ kgs behemoth of a board is the king of them all.
I also use it for gaming (not competitive tho) and find it very suitable for my gaming style but this is not where this thing fully shines. From my experience, old mechanical Cherry boards are amazing for gaming: switches were just different back then (much more of a type-writery feel) and man, as long as it’s ABS plastic and PBT keycaps (double-shot or dye-subbed) these boards won’t age beyond surface dirt and dust.
I have the Bluetooth RK60 keyboard and absolutely love it. I’m using lubed cherry reds with pudding keycaps with o-rings and I put some foam in the housing. All together I have about $85 in my keyboard and that includes a aftermarket coil cable
I had just bought the r65 from RK. but I didn't like the all plastic build, so I bought the gmmk 2 barebones for around $60 at micro center. it was such a steal for the price. I just took the switches from the r65 and used them for the gmmk 2. and ordered some nice MOA keycaps. never been happier with a keyboard in my life.
Ingot my wireless v3 blackwidow nib from a dealer on marketplace. It was only 60 and works flawlessly. Best buy ever.
I got a “Womier K87” floral print keyboard the other day for like… $50ish. It’s sooooo amazing so far! Going from 100% to 75% keyboard is still taking some time to get used to. Completely satisfied though. 🥰
This was a great video. Thank you for the keyboard review. These all sounded amazing.
Next time please check knobs too. I hate how many youtubers don't check the sound test of knobs on keyboard, i want to know if its a premium tactial one or a cheao one.
Expect these will be reduced even more in Prime sales to clear last year models.
After dealing with coolmaster, razer etc. For many many years and dealing with failure after failure I switched to Logitech. Say what you want but my g305 has been going strong since its release with no issues and this Logitech low profile mech keyboard is leaps and bounds better than the cool master i had. So from a 70 to a 120 dollar keyboard was massive for me. Everything from rubber wearing off the keys to the point I could not read them anymore to multiple buttons registering more than once with one press. Don't even get me started on the razer keyboard I had.
So I just recently purchased my first pre build and I want to thank you guys again for recommending great products.
I'm still kinda new to this whole pc thing so I'm not too knowledgeable, I thought all keyboards were the same etc.. But let me tell you, I got the RK65 and typing on that keyboard fells so good lol I see why people get into them, again thank you guys for recommending great products.
why no full sized keyboards ? i personally only like to use full size boards my self
i like a modular full-size keyboard... ;)
Same. I bought a 60% last year and it has been a terrible experience. Why do people prefer this?
@@moleedaboi i bought a separate numpad and put it on the the left side of my 65% keyboard, pretty nice to use since i can input data and use my mouse at the same time
@@moleedaboi i think desk space plays huge role in choosing them.
@@moleedaboidepends on your usage and preferences. Do you always use your function keys? Do you really need those numpads when you already have alphanumeric keys? Things like that. That's why 65% to 80% are the ideal keyboard layouts. It will take some time and you will get used to it. I'm also used to full-size layout switched to 96%, 80%, 75%, and finally 65% layout for a clean and spacious setup.
I think the Epomaker Aula F75 sounded the best. Can’t beat that $79 price tag too. I think after some easy mods it’ll sound amazing.
I don't for the life of me get the appeal of having a braided cable on anything. The instant ANYTHING gets snagged on that cable and you've got a fray in the side of it. And that's all I'm going to see. Also - who the hell cares if the cable is detachable? How often are you removing the cable from your keyboard? Hell how often are you taking your keyboard off of your desk?
And yeah, if it ain't a 100% keyboard - I don't want it. Why the hell would I want to use the top row to put in numbers when I can have a numpad right there next to my dominant hand?
Razer aren't bad, I just wouldn't ever pay that much for a keyboard. I am typing this on a Razer, just one of the lower end models. I've had a Corsair keyboard before, it was rubbish. It started having technical problems just after my warranty ran out. I cleaned it myself but wasn't able to fix the worn out keys, it also required two USB ports, which was dumb. These alternatives look pretty good.
Unless its a desk size issue or you are using it portably, I don't understand why someone would want a keyboard withot a numpad. Even basic things like typing in your PIN becomes tedious
I bought the RK H81 Royal Kludge yesterday. It's wireless bluetooth and wired nice and quiet. Great sounding keyboard, great feel. Hot swappable etc. I hate repetitive noises in general. Better than the HyperX I bought. Was $95 AUD on Amazon. I'm impressed. 😁🤘🏻
yeah having it branded doesn't really mean they're top notch, i bought a $140 Corsair K70 RGB TKL Champion Series from 2 years ago, it was a great keyboard in terms of specs but did not managed to use them to the fullest and the keypress actuations are great but the keycaps wiggle much, the worst was it was not a hot swap, and just last week the cntrl key stopped working. i was pretty much upset about it, remembering back i could have bought the glorious tkl which was less the price and hot swappable but i didn't. Now i use a Royal Kludge S98 which is half the price of my corsair with features i can really fully utilize, tri mode, with numpad(less space compared to 100% keyboards), volume knob, a mini screen, and a hot swappable board, they even included switches. Im no longer keeping an eye on top brands anymore but into smaller brands that give more value.
I’ll never understand the whole, “it sounds good,” thing, I’ve got headphones on and can’t hear it, why does it matter..
My Glorious TKL is the first keyboard I've had with a full metal body, the weight is a surprise.
Those Glorious frames have some heft to them lol
The sad thing is that the razer was the only full-size keyboard that appeared in the video, as a programmer and typist, I not only grew up used to the numeric keypad, I use it very often, and apparently it doesn't have any of these good brand keyboards, mountable and with good switches The sad thing is that the razer was the only full-size keyboard that appeared out there, as a programmer and typist, I not only grew up used to the numeric keypad, I use it very often, and apparently it doesn't have any of these good brand keyboards, mountable and with good switches in 100% size... And I refuse to have two keyboards, one for work and one for games, I think it's ridiculous
I just bought the RK R65 because of this video, did I need a new keyboard? Not really but it’s one if the best keyboards I’ve used. Can’t wait to play around with it some more. Great review guys and a well deserved like and sub
Not yet in the mechanical keyboard rabbit hole? I started Aug or Sep 2023, I already got around 20+ mechanical keyboards as of this writing. LOL
@@eytfiftin favorite one?
@@ReezyBeek top 5 probably but not in any particular order
Leobog Hi75 (Black)
Royal Kludge M75 (Phantom)
8BitDo Retro Mech (FAMICOM edition)
Aula F75 (Black)
Royal Axe Y68 (Blue/Red)
KBDcraft Lilith
mechanical keyboards in a nutshell
This is a nice showcase of some of the popular mechanical keyboards per price point
if you can actually make use of fast response times go with a keychron optical or a hall effect
if not go with normal mx switches preferably hot swap so you have much more options
knobs are cool and all but they tend to add a lot of cost for no reason so keep that in mind
I have been using Royal Kludge R61 now for 3 years and it still rocks. It's way cheaper than the known brands.
I would still pick razer over all of the alternatives simply because none of them are full sized. For someone who does work on his PC and does a lot of stuff with 3D graphic and even 2D graphics numpad is a must. I ain't running up and down whole width of keyboard to enter precise coordinates or values.
Buying separate numpad is stupid as well because then there is one more cable or device I need to keep charged, not to mention nice quality numpads cost almost as whole keyboard so it gets expensive real fast.
Epomaker makes keyboards with numpads that still come in cheaper and sound better than the razer
@@z33jonah Heck, MageGee does, too. Not as good sounding as these, but still really good.
My Vaydeer 9 key is fully programmable (and you can have multiple layers) with mechanical switches and is £35. Powered by a detachable USB cable.
@@Safetytrousers I don't want layers, and I don't want to have separate keyboard just for numbers that is still pretty expensive and it requires either one more cable for charging or one cable on the desk to connect it to PC. I ain't paying extra for something that other full sized keyboards have in the price of the keyboard
@@z33jonah But that wasn't shown in the video... I was going only by keyboard shown in the video
😌 Overtime and a bit of patience I've come to buy non branded or at least not the "Good Named branded" products. Or sometimes second hand. They work just as amazing and my wallet thanks me. Excellent video btw
I'm a bit disappointed none of them are 100%. I really like having a numpad. :( Also wish there were more options like the huntsman where the casing doesn't enclose the keys making it far easier to clean. Any budget options like that with good quality materials?
I kinda wish you guys would have shown at least one full keyboard since your comparing them to a full keyboard. But still loved the video!
RK S98. Not really a full keyboard but it still has a numpad
The Wooting 60 lit ticks all the boxes he mentioned and then some lmao. There is a reason it’s the best and most popular competitive gaming keyboard on the market by far rn.
it's ass lol just good marketing
@@lauens How is it bad?
@@XLRZ. it's really expensive and doesn't benefit you that much, only in games like osu where the 0.0000001ms less key time actually COULD matter, but overall in games you don't need it. Overall the sound and build is pretty meh, you'd have to mod it for it to be good... but for that price? that's crazy, there are wayyy better boards for even 100 bucks
@ToastyBros the R65 supports VIA, configurable in browser without installing any software.
And so their R75.
One thing about these keyboards and mice. Pick whatever you want. I got a Cosair K55 membrane and it's the best keyboard I've ever had.
Clicking the spacebar with your finger should be a war crime
This just justified my 40$ purchase of the Shadow-X. But I learned a lot, thanks guys!
anything that is marketed as "gamer" edition, usually has a 20-50% surcharge just for for kicks, probably
I don't get online sellers, for me in Israel the Shadow X on Amazon is not available to purchase and on Aliexpress it costs 70$+, on the other hand the wireless Aula F75 is selling on Aliexpress for 40-50$.
I just got interested in mechanical keyboards recently so bought 6 different wireless mechanical keyboards from Aliexpress for the price of that Razer keyboard, I don't like Razer and will never buy any of their overpriced garbage.
Got all 6 keyboards and used most of them for a few days each, interesting but I still don't get why people go nuts spending thousands of $$ on keyboards, yeah it sounds and feels nice but a good membrane keyboard does the same job, doesn't sound as nice but sometimes I prefer not hearing the switches and the feel of a membrane keyboard is fine IMO.
For now I'm happy with the keyboards I have and will continue testing them further.
Any recommendations on low or ultra low profile keyboards? Maybe a video idea?
Ever since I was a kid I learned that a branded thing doesn't exactly mean it's good, when I was in gradeschool I always wanted a blackwidow because hype. But when I got it, it felt the same as my friends weird branded mechanical keyboard which was 2/5 the price.
Morale of the story, just because brands want you to fanboy doesn't mean their products are good. Ehem Razer, Logitech.
Laughs in wooting
They are also the first to work with the windows RGB software. I use mine in Linux with OpenRGB, one software keyboard, mouse & my Asus motherboard.
Steel series you can have multiple profiles with different actuation speeds. So you can setup a gaming profile and a typing profile.
I’m still running a Microsoft ergonomic keyboard that’s got to be going on 15 years old. I bought a backup a year or so ago in case it dies because I like it so much.
I have a G Skill mechanical keyboard from quite a few years ago, but I never use it. It has Mx browns.
I want to see keyboards from 30-75 bucks have a category for wired and wireless. Budget priced keyboards excite me more.
Razor doesn't really offer anything for their keyboards. I built an inland gaming mk pro 75% for a little more than the Razor. I got the barebones kit at 89.. but full aluminum, south facing, removeable usb c (no wireless options), heavy AF, sidelights... It was the fancy front legend keycaps and the WS silent linears I filled it with that took me over the razors price. I could have put just about any decent budget linear in it and some generic caps in there and came in less. The prebuilt version is same price as the razor..
I got an EVGA Z15 from Goodwill for 16 bucks a couple months ago lol
Hot swappable as well. Great deal.
Used boards are the way to go if you plan on modding them. Cheapest way to get a 100% board with software is by tearing apart a pre-built lol
I got a couple EVGA wireless gaming mice that were way too nice for what I paid for them, $15 on Amazon. RIP EVGA 😢
Anyone looking for a keyboard, wooting is the best. Anything under just go for any main company Razer, stealseries, ect. Anything over you only want to do if you like esthetics as it will preform slower than a wooting
Razor should never be considered a top end keyboard. The other ones are so much better.
Thanks for showing these ones.
The huntsman wrist rest isnt all that, the material will start to deteriorate after a while, mine did it after about a year.
Would you guys recommend a Steel Series keyboard at least? I mean they are good and have great solid build quality.