If you want to hear my commentary on the guns that CoolGuy talked about HERE (and to see his 4 wep picks that are different than mine), check HIS version of today's video, right here! ua-cam.com/video/2uV_b4VVtC8/v-deo.html
My only question is, "How reliable is this video after Bungie stating the HUGE nerf for all controller use. Up to 40% if I understood it correctly. Please comment on this. And thank you for posting these choices.
@@banditdawgs I used to hate playing against crimson until the recent flinch update(I'm on series x) I feel like I can actually challenge it straight up now without peak shooting using a 140 where as before shots became rng bullets while getting gunned by it😆
As someone who sucks at PvP - crimson and devils ruin is the only primary I’ve ever done well with on controller ever since it released Devils ruin is hilarious a mini thousand voices. Right now I’m running crimson with a glaive and void hunter. Almost infinite invisibility (as useless as it is) but it’s really good for getting the drop on people witb tbe glaive Kinda doing a shatter dive thing with the void dive, vortex grenade and glaive. Easy 1v1, sometimes 1v2
Personally, I prefer Aggressive pulses (Insidious, Sacred Provenance) because of their more relaxed TTK while still outputting a massive amount of damage and flinch. Plus, they just feel better.
As an Xbox player. My Favoeite try hard load out is no time , firmly plated successful warmup snorri , and a crafted bump in the night just to level it up in the back ground and I never pull heavy anyways
Hard agree that sidearms just don't feel right on MnK, but dang do they feel good on controller. I would put Rat King (only if you have the catalyst) and Traveller's Chosen pretty high on my list of favorite controller weapons.
Traveler's Chosen is easily one of my favorite controller weapons. It's so good now that shotties are so inconsistent now too. It has a place to use it even in high end PvP.
Idk man I don't have the catalyst on Rat but it's still a favorite of mine. The invis alone has saved kill streaks for me more times than I can count. Love that gun.
@@IdarwizzygoatI Hello brother. How do you feel about Tex Mechanica’s upcoming modifications to you? They’ve changed my closet slightly, but other than that, I’m still me.
In regards to messenger, I used a rapid hit kill clip messenger for a long time in crucible. But, I recently switched to headseeker and lemme tell ya, having the “win now” perk over the win later perk has drastically increased the number of two taps I get on messenger.
I've had a MT headseaker roll tucked away that isn't stacked out with stability for this reason alone. I got mine out the other day and it definitely makes the 2 bursts more consistent
This is my favourite UA-cam collab. Love both your guys styles and they're so different and complimentary. Hilarious and informative. Love this idea, please do a part 2 of some kind.
A thought: for hunters who want to run devil's ruin. Run mechaneer's tricksleeves and double sidearm reload for the same point blank laser spam as warlock with ophidian aspect and double sidearm loader. Also dont forget it only needs one bullet to laser so sidearm holster is your friend. Laser, stow, wait a sec then pull back out. It should have 1 or 2 bullets and then laser and repeat
I’m so glad a kept a good legal action pulse rifle. That thing is crispy and has a lot of range thanks to the 22 zoom having more range than a full range adept messager
This may just be me, but Eriana's Vow in controller has been absolutely wonderful for me. Tie in a primary with quick access sling, and you can damn near kill with a headshot and finish them with a quick swap burst.
i made a piece with elemental capacitor, polygonal rifling, stability mw, perp motion. Xbox Series X player. i think its 97 base stability on void subclass (which would then go over 100 with perp motion stacks, although I believe stats dont help past 100). Then put on full auto retrofit. melts. Only lacking a bit in range. The only thing I dont like is IMO full auto retrofit is required to get the most from the gun, which kind of makes it feel like a REALLY deadly burst AR. Not a pulse rifle. While thats fun in it's own right for a while, IMO it gets boring pretty fast. As someone who likes that traditional pulse rifle (something like syncopation 53 feels wonderful to me) feel it's a bummer that such an effective gun doesnt feel great to me.
Putting multimach in the list is weird to me. Yea sure it’s still good but it’s not great. With the zoom nerf the multimach is much less consistent at ranges. If you used to be a multimach main grind and get yourself an escape velocity it now has more range and much more stability which is a lot more important now.
Nice list!! I hate to be that guy but ackshually Eyasluna has 85 aim assist because you get an extra +5 from every scope option. It might not seem like much but with moving target and a target adjuster mod on the weapon it can reach 100 aim assist without the need for helmet mods.
I don't know if you have done one in the past, but could you do a video on optimal controller settings? I always feel like default works best since that is how you start a game, but I'm seeing more people talk about their "outputs" and you are one of the few people that I trust. I use controller primarily for xbox, but I have a ps4 as well.
I picked up Crimson early on in my d2 career and ive never swapped it out since, that easy heal is a boon in pve and pvp and if you can control the recoil well its TTK holds its own against Ace etc 🙊
Great video as always I loved the pixelated editing. Only thing I really disagree with is multimach. To hit it's max range which isn't even that crazy anymore you have to sacrifice almost all of your stability. Funnel-web only hits half a meter shorter and gets to keep 30+ stability while doing it. At least on controller I think it absolutely destroys multimach.
I would add Traveler's Chosen to the side arms of choice for controller. Never really liked it on M&K, but then a few months later after moving to console I tried it out to amp an ability build I was working on and fell in love.
I do agree that sniping on MnK is god damn difficult. But with loads of practice, it starts to feel much better. The Beloved is the perfect sniper for the energy slot for both inputs. Certain sniper perks don't work as well on MnK too, such as Moving Target. Mine has Box Breathing for the guaranteed super shutdown and boosted range.
That's what I usually just go with what I feel withe weapon. Usually when certain tune ups that Bungie makes with weapons makes players go all over for what are considered god rolls. Eventually things change, but certain perks are still very viable.
I do have one thing I want to say: I am a MnK player I don't hate any weapon, even Last Word. I am firmly of the belief that if it's in the game, its 100% fair game to use. Bungie does their best to keep a balanced meta, there are now 3 sub-classes in the 3.0 family with the 4th not far away, and there are literally HUNDREDS of weapons in the game that one can experiment with to find their "home". I used to think that I had to chase the top of the top of the meta in order to become a better/passable player in PvP. I would quietly rage when opponents would kill me with the "hard counter" to the weapon I was currently failing with. Once I moved away from that and started looking at other weapons (thank you AscendantNomad for showing me one way to go), I stopped worrying about what other players would use and more on moving, landing shots, and experimenting with mods.
Multimach is maybe mediocre on controller(i don t have Dynamic Sway Reduction, just Thread Detector and Steady Rounds) ...you need an 5/5 godroll to make it stabel ! It s an eye for an eye - Bungie nerfs the last word(on controller) then it s time Bungie hit m/k with another -20 stability.....or Bungie finally makes an option for input based matchmaking for pc pvp - we are waiting since Forsaken !
I'm on controller and can't get kills with Cryo. Never got catalyst because if that and I'm a sidearm main! Why? No full auto plus handicapped hands. 68 yrs old with carpal and ulnar nerve issues. Bungie needs to get off their ass and make these full auto, please!
No offense but some of the wording needs to be corrected, somethings mainly the way cool guy worded it about AA and how it works between M&K vs controller, the only thing ONLY thing M&K doesn't have is friction, the rest about about AA is the same for all inputs.
Duuuuude, my bad. I literally thought I've been Subbed this whole time.. been watching your videos n content for a while. My apologies on being sub par in the brains department. I appreciate the content and the grind! Peace! ... and I'm subbed now.
I absolutely hate Piece of Mind. It looks like garbage, it is too zoomy. Was excited at first, crafted it, tried several godrolls, dismantled it. Absolute garbage. Darkest Before is King.
Thorn was my first exotic back in D1, got it during week 2 of release. It has been my favourite weapon ever since, I don’t care what kind of meta is dominant, I will always pick Thorn and be top of the lobby, or at least my team. It’s good to see a fellow Thorn enjoyer
My clan plays mostly on console. We have dubbed Crimson as "The Easy Button". That's how insane it is on controller. As good as TLW is, it still hasn't been dubbed that.
I'm no trials player m'self so I don't really have to worry about power but my guiding moonlight is one hundred percent Revoker, I still use it constantly in 6v6. Aside from RoF it just feels so good and looks so cool.
Ok guys, are there any good ways to actually properly farm for austringers/beloveds/drangs/etc without having the season pass? I have just assumed that its not possible for me to really get redbox versions of thsoe weapons in any decent amount of time without the season pass due to not being able to focus engrams at the crown of sorrow. This was a problem i had last season as well, i still only ever have used the peace of mind that came from leveling up the season, because i couldnt get another one. Any tips for (mostly) free to play players? (If this is helpful whcih it prolly isnt lol i have the forsaken pack and i own beyond light, but i dont have WQ or season passes or anything)
What's your controller settings for Thorn, I'm challenging myself to get as many kills as I can on it in crucible and looking to make it feel better. Any feedback or changes would be appreciated
I’ve been singing Crimson’s praises for years. My friends used to tease me for using it so much… I get a little indignant when I die to it nowadays. Edit: I’ve never liked messenger, though. It just doesn’t feel right.
D1 legendary hand cannons: pvp monster whether you choose eyasluna, palindrome, or imago loop! D2 legendary hand cannons: feels like a wet banana in pvp
I like sidearms more than smgs on controller 100% of the time. The only smg that feels good to me is the huckleberry. Their kick is too unwieldy past 12 meters. I roll my eyes when I see a Mnk player beaming with a minitool at auto rifle ranges. Feels like Hardlight before they fixed the stability.
I kinda don't appreciate the "controller players are probably nodding in agreement with me right now" and I had to stop nodding my damn head for Crimson... LOL!
This is actually really helpful. I switched to pc gaming a few years back and recently have had to go back to my Xbox cause my computer crapped out on me.
why cant they add settings for controller such as dead zones response curve all that like apex and every other game. these devs still living in 2010 bruh this why I cant main this game
We all know why Last word and Crimson is in every crucible lobby. In reality these guns have lots of Recoil to make it harder to land all the shots. But all the little noobs go to the shop and buy the Cronus Zen cheating gadget to go along with their controller and hurray we have a gun you can shoot ultra fast with no Recoil at all a 8 year old can now go into crucible and beam people faster than anyone else. And ad Wallhacks to that bamdabom you have the mess of Crucible today most everyone is cheating their face of. And Battle Eye is no were to be seen probably on a vacation at Bahamas laughing his ass of.
Adept messenger with ricochet rounds, outlaw and headseeker is the roll I have and it absolutely craps on people. Lol I have one with desperado but I have a really hard time liking it, doesn't feel very good after the nerf. Idk
When talking about the sidearms you chose, I totally get it. What has me scratching my head is how a gun like Traveler’s Chosen doesn’t get mentioned when it’s got such monster stats, feels so consistent, and helps restore abilities if you whiff a grenade or melee. Other than that one small point, great video and I’m loving the collab vids with Coolguy too! GG
Controller on console vs controller on pc I would say are very different. Someone with m&k movement can make controller feel like shit. It's why I quit pvp
I’m surprised you didn’t slap forerunner into this list. If you played halo ce it’s literally the exact same thing. Just tap the trigger three times and keep that fat reticle on the targets head. And with its recent ammo buff in pvp it’s like playing swat.
My high impact pulse .. I forgot the name I know it .. looks like a Hakke and came out a while ago kinetic aswell Been using it in pvp with drang and I love it ... not more then forerunner though
I might be alone here but I still prefer my 5/5 Time-Worn Spire to my crafted Piece of Mind. I think it comes down to Iron Grip and the ability to roll scopes. Being able to swap to Rifle Scope ST for long range maps and the huge increase in zoom make this gun so flexible. Unfortunately, Bungie seems to be staying away from scope rolls these days and you can’t even get TWS anymore. If you have an Iron Grip TWS sitting in your vault, I recommend giving it a try, you might like it better than Piece of Mind.
I hate pvp in this game It's so annoying when challenges have pvp requirements. It's good to know what weapons to use so I don't end up taking my real gun to my own head
I hate it when people complain about how good last word is on Console like PC didn’t have last word being literally the best weapon in the game for years unbeatable from destiny one to destiny two
anyone else think crafting ruined destiny? like you really said you hate that you have to farm for a roll for darkest before but that's literally a huge part of what destiny is all about what is going on
I hate how so many people don't notice that getting many of these guns require a season or expansion. Destiny is not free to play and I begin to hate the game more day to day.
@@gentle_singularity apex, warzone, Fortnite,enlisted, Warframe, etc. If it's marketed as free, make it free, I love the game but not everyone is made of money
@@jumboshrimp4373 I get it but you can't expect all content to be free. In all of those games all the content isn't necessarily free. You don't have to be made of money to play either lol. Gaming is an expensive hobby. Wait for a sale if you really want to save money.
@@gentle_singularity I can agree with that, and most of it is just my skill level, but I've found that I don't play consistent enough to invest. I don't consider it a hobby even though it's something I love to do. But I will mention that in all of those free games, all transactions are purely cosmetic. Also I can't even play trial without paying 40 dollars for witch queen, it used to be free!!!!!
If you want to hear my commentary on the guns that CoolGuy talked about HERE (and to see his 4 wep picks that are different than mine), check HIS version of today's video, right here! ua-cam.com/video/2uV_b4VVtC8/v-deo.html
It's pronounced (be love ed) say them individually that's how you say that weapons name
My only question is, "How reliable is this video after Bungie stating the HUGE nerf for all controller use. Up to 40% if I understood it correctly. Please comment on this. And thank you for posting these choices.
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What about Hawkmoon
this was an awesome way for both of you to collaborate. I watched both videos and thoroughly enjoyed each and your respective styles!
I know that you’re correct whenever I see each weapon on your list and think “ Man I hate going against that weapon”
You’re goddamn right
@@rhyshuber9981 lol
Yeah excluding Thorn & the sidearm I dislike playing against all of these weapons.
@@pluto3194 I hate playing against crimson
@@banditdawgs I used to hate playing against crimson until the recent flinch update(I'm on series x) I feel like I can actually challenge it straight up now without peak shooting using a 140 where as before shots became rng bullets while getting gunned by it😆
I'm a PC only gamer but I play almost exclusively every game on controller so thanks for this.
As someone who sucks at PvP - crimson and devils ruin is the only primary I’ve ever done well with on controller ever since it released
Devils ruin is hilarious a mini thousand voices.
Right now I’m running crimson with a glaive and void hunter. Almost infinite invisibility (as useless as it is) but it’s really good for getting the drop on people witb tbe glaive
Kinda doing a shatter dive thing with the void dive, vortex grenade and glaive. Easy 1v1, sometimes 1v2
Personally, I prefer Aggressive pulses (Insidious, Sacred Provenance) because of their more relaxed TTK while still outputting a massive amount of damage and flinch. Plus, they just feel better.
I love them too but they’re very risky to use at closish medium range
Also, maximum fun factor with a dragonfly/rampage roll
kinda surprised that no time missed the list. everyone and their mommas are using it
As an Xbox player. My Favoeite try hard load out is no time , firmly plated successful warmup snorri , and a crafted bump in the night just to level it up in the back ground and I never pull heavy anyways
The TLW hate from mnk will always be funny like they dont remember when it was only usable with a mouse for the longest time.
Great collaboration 🤙
1. Piece of Mind - 01:00
2. Last Word - 02:20
3. Crimson - 03:46
4. The Messenger - 05:13
5. Shayura's Wrath / Multimack CCX - 06:45
6. Austringer / The Palindrome / Eyasluna - 08:45
7. Thorn - 10:21
8. Devil's Ruin / Cryosthesia 77K - 12:15
9. Beloved - 14:00
10. Lord of Wolves - 15:12
Thanks man
Thanks for always including us controller/console Guardians ❤️
We are still the og's
@@Alex_Anti Brother 90% of players came from playing d1 on console. We just wanted to escape being forced into 70 fov 30 fps.
Yes, except those playing on console with Mnk, out with them 😅🤣
@@realfake6669 Dr lupo back in the day lolol
You literally can't miss on forerunner. Idk why but I feel like it just hits heads and I really haven't found my hand cannon shot yet.
Hard agree that sidearms just don't feel right on MnK, but dang do they feel good on controller. I would put Rat King (only if you have the catalyst) and Traveller's Chosen pretty high on my list of favorite controller weapons.
Traveler's Chosen is easily one of my favorite controller weapons. It's so good now that shotties are so inconsistent now too. It has a place to use it even in high end PvP.
Idk man I don't have the catalyst on Rat but it's still a favorite of mine. The invis alone has saved kill streaks for me more times than I can count. Love that gun.
I've really been vibing with trespasser!
I adore traveler's chosen, running it+ahamkara tripmines is the ticket to winning rift.
Just finished watching Coolguy’s vid lolll
Coolguy's video won't show for me :(
Hello chaperone
hello my related brother
@@IdarwizzygoatI Hello brother. How do you feel about Tex Mechanica’s upcoming modifications to you? They’ve changed my closet slightly, but other than that, I’m still me.
@@lucidd2432 Greeting, Lucidd.
In regards to messenger, I used a rapid hit kill clip messenger for a long time in crucible. But, I recently switched to headseeker and lemme tell ya, having the “win now” perk over the win later perk has drastically increased the number of two taps I get on messenger.
I have a premonition (moon pulse) with headseeker and I have been thinking about pulling it out. I might have to do that today
@@lauzybro3660 premonition is great I need to get my hands on one. Headseeker has been so consistent I think you’ll like it.
I've had a MT headseaker roll tucked away that isn't stacked out with stability for this reason alone. I got mine out the other day and it definitely makes the 2 bursts more consistent
Oh bro. Yes, headseeker feels so good especially when you have a 95 range stat. Lol
I still have an Adept Messenger with Perpetual Motion and Kill Clip or Headseeker in the Vault
want to have ? Never used, still like new
This is my favourite UA-cam collab. Love both your guys styles and they're so different and complimentary. Hilarious and informative. Love this idea, please do a part 2 of some kind.
A thought: for hunters who want to run devil's ruin. Run mechaneer's tricksleeves and double sidearm reload for the same point blank laser spam as warlock with ophidian aspect and double sidearm loader. Also dont forget it only needs one bullet to laser so sidearm holster is your friend. Laser, stow, wait a sec then pull back out. It should have 1 or 2 bullets and then laser and repeat
Thank you!
@@CerberusPlusOne you are welcome! 😀
Surprised not to see Vex Mythoclast on either list - it is dirty, insane ttk, aim assist feels like cheating
I’m so glad a kept a good legal action pulse rifle. That thing is crispy and has a lot of range thanks to the 22 zoom having more range than a full range adept messager
This may just be me, but Eriana's Vow in controller has been absolutely wonderful for me. Tie in a primary with quick access sling, and you can damn near kill with a headshot and finish them with a quick swap burst.
Used to main Ariana's and can confirm, it's a monster.
Hasn't that been as thing for years?
i made a piece with elemental capacitor, polygonal rifling, stability mw, perp motion. Xbox Series X player. i think its 97 base stability on void subclass (which would then go over 100 with perp motion stacks, although I believe stats dont help past 100). Then put on full auto retrofit. melts. Only lacking a bit in range. The only thing I dont like is IMO full auto retrofit is required to get the most from the gun, which kind of makes it feel like a REALLY deadly burst AR. Not a pulse rifle. While thats fun in it's own right for a while, IMO it gets boring pretty fast. As someone who likes that traditional pulse rifle (something like syncopation 53 feels wonderful to me) feel it's a bummer that such an effective gun doesnt feel great to me.
Putting multimach in the list is weird to me. Yea sure it’s still good but it’s not great. With the zoom nerf the multimach is much less consistent at ranges. If you used to be a multimach main grind and get yourself an escape velocity it now has more range and much more stability which is a lot more important now.
I never thought anyone was ever going to recognize Devils Ruin as a good weapon, i've been using it for a while now
I don't think I've clicked on a D2 video so fast lol. Getting tired of Crim and Eyeslina.
Drang, drang and drang. Also, arbalest and lorentz. All of these are better than the entire list other than maybe last word and lord of wolves.
CoolGuy? Same guy that brags about using TLW on controller on Twitter? Weird.
I’ve been playing on controller for a while and I totally agree with this!
I am quite certain that cool guy and true vanguard are actually the same person....
You should talk about Skyburner's after the big change goes live
Why?
@@bennygerow gun is fun, plus it's a 150 Scout, which is getting some adjustments.
Nice list!! I hate to be that guy but ackshually Eyasluna has 85 aim assist because you get an extra +5 from every scope option. It might not seem like much but with moving target and a target adjuster mod on the weapon it can reach 100 aim assist without the need for helmet mods.
Which scope options give aim assist?
Whatever hawkmoon I have with maximized handling and stability feels great on controller
I have slot of hawkmoon so and I barely use it what’s a good roll with decent stats all around?
@@quentinb734 for controller (what I use) I think would be smallboure, rangefinder, and heavy or smooth grip
Best collaboration I’ve seen between two solid creators. Please do more.
Ima go leave the same comment on the other dudes channel now. Word for word.
Top ten weapons on controller that make you wanna cry in quick play
Bro my friends mouse broke so he can't spray anymore...
I don't know if you have done one in the past, but could you do a video on optimal controller settings? I always feel like default works best since that is how you start a game, but I'm seeing more people talk about their "outputs" and you are one of the few people that I trust. I use controller primarily for xbox, but I have a ps4 as well.
I picked up Crimson early on in my d2 career and ive never swapped it out since, that easy heal is a boon in pve and pvp and if you can control the recoil well its TTK holds its own against Ace etc 🙊
Great video as always I loved the pixelated editing. Only thing I really disagree with is multimach. To hit it's max range which isn't even that crazy anymore you have to sacrifice almost all of your stability. Funnel-web only hits half a meter shorter and gets to keep 30+ stability while doing it. At least on controller I think it absolutely destroys multimach.
I would add Traveler's Chosen to the side arms of choice for controller. Never really liked it on M&K, but then a few months later after moving to console I tried it out to amp an ability build I was working on and fell in love.
Thanks for gettin nerdy with it fellas
I do agree that sniping on MnK is god damn difficult. But with loads of practice, it starts to feel much better. The Beloved is the perfect sniper for the energy slot for both inputs. Certain sniper perks don't work as well on MnK too, such as Moving Target. Mine has Box Breathing for the guaranteed super shutdown and boosted range.
It's tough to get in, but when you've got it, it's strong
How do I get the crimson and last word?
My friends told me my old moving target snapshot beloved was bad, here i am now hearing its good
That's what I usually just go with what I feel withe weapon. Usually when certain tune ups that Bungie makes with weapons makes players go all over for what are considered god rolls. Eventually things change, but certain perks are still very viable.
Devils ruin best weapon in the game
I do have one thing I want to say: I am a MnK player I don't hate any weapon, even Last Word.
I am firmly of the belief that if it's in the game, its 100% fair game to use. Bungie does their best to keep a balanced meta, there are now 3 sub-classes in the 3.0 family with the 4th not far away, and there are literally HUNDREDS of weapons in the game that one can experiment with to find their "home". I used to think that I had to chase the top of the top of the meta in order to become a better/passable player in PvP. I would quietly rage when opponents would kill me with the "hard counter" to the weapon I was currently failing with. Once I moved away from that and started looking at other weapons (thank you AscendantNomad for showing me one way to go), I stopped worrying about what other players would use and more on moving, landing shots, and experimenting with mods.
very much spotted the AscendantNomad mindset from the opening 2 lines :)
Only a T'au friend whould talk so...
Honestly jade rabbit feels better than dead mans on controller
dead man's tale is like the last word for mnk.
Is this the ad video? Guess I’ll keep watching to find out. tho last word obviously gonna be my go to
Multimach is maybe mediocre on controller(i don t have Dynamic
Sway Reduction, just Thread Detector and Steady Rounds) ...you need an 5/5 godroll to make it stabel ! It s an eye for an eye - Bungie nerfs the last word(on controller) then it s time Bungie hit m/k with another -20 stability.....or Bungie finally makes an option for input based matchmaking for pc pvp - we are waiting since Forsaken !
I'm on controller and can't get kills with Cryo. Never got catalyst because if that and I'm a sidearm main!
Why? No full auto plus handicapped hands. 68 yrs old with carpal and ulnar nerve issues. Bungie needs to get off their ass and make these full auto, please!
No offense but some of the wording needs to be corrected, somethings mainly the way cool guy worded it about AA and how it works between M&K vs controller, the only thing ONLY thing M&K doesn't have is friction, the rest about about AA is the same for all inputs.
Duuuuude, my bad. I literally thought I've been Subbed this whole time.. been watching your videos n content for a while. My apologies on being sub par in the brains department. I appreciate the content and the grind! Peace! ... and I'm subbed now.
I absolutely hate Piece of Mind. It looks like garbage, it is too zoomy. Was excited at first, crafted it, tried several godrolls, dismantled it. Absolute garbage. Darkest Before is King.
Thorn was my first exotic back in D1, got it during week 2 of release. It has been my favourite weapon ever since, I don’t care what kind of meta is dominant, I will always pick Thorn and be top of the lobby, or at least my team. It’s good to see a fellow Thorn enjoyer
My clan plays mostly on console. We have dubbed Crimson as "The Easy Button". That's how insane it is on controller. As good as TLW is, it still hasn't been dubbed that.
I'm no trials player m'self so I don't really have to worry about power but my guiding moonlight is one hundred percent Revoker, I still use it constantly in 6v6. Aside from RoF it just feels so good and looks so cool.
Man, I love CoolGuy, don't get me wrong, but his speaking cadence in UA-cam videos bothers me so bad for some reason...
"My new controller settings" = Xim Nexus controller + aim assist x40 *wink*wink*. We know how you streamers roll ;)-
Ok guys, are there any good ways to actually properly farm for austringers/beloveds/drangs/etc without having the season pass? I have just assumed that its not possible for me to really get redbox versions of thsoe weapons in any decent amount of time without the season pass due to not being able to focus engrams at the crown of sorrow. This was a problem i had last season as well, i still only ever have used the peace of mind that came from leveling up the season, because i couldnt get another one. Any tips for (mostly) free to play players? (If this is helpful whcih it prolly isnt lol i have the forsaken pack and i own beyond light, but i dont have WQ or season passes or anything)
What's your controller settings for Thorn, I'm challenging myself to get as many kills as I can on it in crucible and looking to make it feel better.
Any feedback or changes would be appreciated
I’ve been singing Crimson’s praises for years. My friends used to tease me for using it so much… I get a little indignant when I die to it nowadays.
Edit: I’ve never liked messenger, though. It just doesn’t feel right.
D1 legendary hand cannons: pvp monster whether you choose eyasluna, palindrome, or imago loop!
D2 legendary hand cannons: feels like a wet banana in pvp
I like sidearms more than smgs on controller 100% of the time. The only smg that feels good to me is the huckleberry. Their kick is too unwieldy past 12 meters. I roll my eyes when I see a Mnk player beaming with a minitool at auto rifle ranges. Feels like Hardlight before they fixed the stability.
I kinda don't appreciate the "controller players are probably nodding in agreement with me right now" and I had to stop nodding my damn head for Crimson... LOL!
Last word on controller is absolutely disgusting. Last word on M&K is blugh.. have a controller next to my pc in case😂
This is actually really helpful. I switched to pc gaming a few years back and recently have had to go back to my Xbox cause my computer crapped out on me.
why cant they add settings for controller such as dead zones response curve all that like apex and every other game. these devs still living in 2010 bruh this why I cant main this game
We all know why Last word and Crimson is in every crucible lobby. In reality these guns have lots of Recoil to make it harder to land all the shots. But all the little noobs go to the shop and buy the Cronus Zen cheating gadget to go along with their controller and hurray we have a gun you can shoot ultra fast with no Recoil at all a 8 year old can now go into crucible and beam people faster than anyone else. And ad Wallhacks to that bamdabom you have the mess of Crucible today most everyone is cheating their face of. And Battle Eye is no were to be seen probably on a vacation at Bahamas laughing his ass of.
Adept messenger with ricochet rounds, outlaw and headseeker is the roll I have and it absolutely craps on people. Lol I have one with desperado but I have a really hard time liking it, doesn't feel very good after the nerf. Idk
Great partnership videos from 2 of my favorite/practical/useful info content creators!
When talking about the sidearms you chose, I totally get it. What has me scratching my head is how a gun like Traveler’s Chosen doesn’t get mentioned when it’s got such monster stats, feels so consistent, and helps restore abilities if you whiff a grenade or melee.
Other than that one small point, great video and I’m loving the collab vids with Coolguy too! GG
Controller on console vs controller on pc I would say are very different. Someone with m&k movement can make controller feel like shit. It's why I quit pvp
Wait, I've watched every Fallout video since D1. Fallout has a Twitch channel? Who knew?
I’m surprised you didn’t slap forerunner into this list. If you played halo ce it’s literally the exact same thing. Just tap the trigger three times and keep that fat reticle on the targets head. And with its recent ammo buff in pvp it’s like playing swat.
WAIT an youtuber who plays m&k and controller, and doesn't complain how controller is easy to play on adn oh im still screwing around with my deadzone
My high impact pulse .. I forgot the name
I know it .. looks like a Hakke and came out a while ago kinetic aswell
Been using it in pvp with drang and I love it ... not more then forerunner though
My multimach has steady rounds, dynamic sway, iron grip, and a stability masterwork, so yeah, it's beams.
I might be alone here but I still prefer my 5/5 Time-Worn Spire to my crafted Piece of Mind. I think it comes down to Iron Grip and the ability to roll scopes. Being able to swap to Rifle Scope ST for long range maps and the huge increase in zoom make this gun so flexible. Unfortunately, Bungie seems to be staying away from scope rolls these days and you can’t even get TWS anymore. If you have an Iron Grip TWS sitting in your vault, I recommend giving it a try, you might like it better than Piece of Mind.
Hard agree. The literal only downside is that I can't put my trials memento on my TWS.
Dude for hand cannons unrelenting and moving target for eyesaluna feels amazing! Why? Lol I don't understand
Can u help me out with the Elite Series 2. Im a d2 Pvp player mostly trials. I need some fast stable and accurate settings..
When you introduced LOW I was waiting for the Lol but to my surprise you were serious! I hate that weapon. Good list.
ehm... did i hear coolguy actually say for the last word that controller users get the full sweep of analcyst??? :D im sure i didnt lmao
I hate pvp in this game
It's so annoying when challenges have pvp requirements. It's good to know what weapons to use so I don't end up taking my real gun to my own head
Why do I see Fallout saying that those who use LoW are "scumbags" while laughing maniacally and slaying the enemy team with it D:
I hate it when people complain about how good last word is on Console like PC didn’t have last word being literally the best weapon in the game for years unbeatable from destiny one to destiny two
Where's the "Top 10 M&K weapons" list? I'd be interested in your thoughts on that.
When you were talking about your settings for thorn I was curious what were they what was your ads and sensitivity? For controller
Can I just say that the trespasser is on the same level as the other two sidearms once you get the catalyst especially. Great video.
Probably no better time to play controller considering you have to play like a complete bot now that you can't jump.
Side note about lord of wolves, in pve, pellet shotguns are getting a buff. Lord of wolves is a pellet shotgun...
I play controller and you have mostly perfect picks for it.
I gotta say, the beloved is disappointing for me. My dead orbit feels much better, might be the range.
As much as i like messenger im more of a broadswoard kinda guy, its judt the way it feels. But i would go messenger for trials
Fun fact: Overload rounds stop radiant healing dead. Osteostriga is my Jam for that.
a CONTROLLER focused vid?!🎉 You the goat! Thank you!
Maybe I needa mess with my controller settings. Something feels off with Thorn for me and I loved the feel of it in d1.
Fallout did you do a new controller setting video. I know you were saying you messed with your ads setting and stuff.
anyone else think crafting ruined destiny? like you really said you hate that you have to farm for a roll for darkest before but that's literally a huge part of what destiny is all about what is going on
I hate how so many people don't notice that getting many of these guns require a season or expansion. Destiny is not free to play and I begin to hate the game more day to day.
What do you expect? To play a full game for free?
@@gentle_singularity apex, warzone, Fortnite,enlisted, Warframe, etc. If it's marketed as free, make it free, I love the game but not everyone is made of money
@@jumboshrimp4373 I get it but you can't expect all content to be free. In all of those games all the content isn't necessarily free. You don't have to be made of money to play either lol. Gaming is an expensive hobby. Wait for a sale if you really want to save money.
@@gentle_singularity I can agree with that, and most of it is just my skill level, but I've found that I don't play consistent enough to invest. I don't consider it a hobby even though it's something I love to do. But I will mention that in all of those free games, all transactions are purely cosmetic. Also I can't even play trial without paying 40 dollars for witch queen, it used to be free!!!!!
2 of my favourite PvP guys doing a “best of controller” comparison joint venture.
Today. Is a GOOD day.
Why to get piece of mind is it necessary to pay for the previous season isn't buying all the dlc good enough bungie
Why does nobody talk about my favorite 140 the fatebringer ;(