Orks: 10 Boyz, 10 Gretchin, 5 Tankbustas (need new sculpts and also probably more useful in 10th), 1 Trukk, 1 Weirdboy (needs new sculpt), 1 Warboss. That's about 440 points and would be near the 35% off at $160 that GW seems to target
I swear that Chaos Daemons in 40k are just being used as a front to sell people on AoS. Make the 40k book unfun and make the AoS versions look as attractive as possible. It worked on me at least.
Kinda off topic for this channel, but this Combat Patrol also gives you almost 1000 points of Khorne Daemons for Warhammer: The Old World. Two would not give you a PERFECT 2000 points army (you can and should fill up the remaining points with magic items), but it is not unreasonable either.
It's such a shame boarding patrols are already announced to be temporary considering they're honestly a better price point to get your friends in to the game
Yeah, the Boarding Patrol sets were nice. Both because they're slightly cheaper - effectively the replacement for Start Collecting - and because they could include alternative sets of units from the same army. (Ex: Drukhari having Kabalites + Incubi in the Combat Patrol, and Wyches in the Boarding Patrol.) It's a crying shame they're limited time buys.
The sad thing is Imperial Knights had an AMAZING box set at christmas: "Chainbreaker Lance". One Knight Questoris, and two pairs of Armigers A Questoris is usually £100 A pair of armigers is £50 The box set was £130. It's an AMAZING box, cannot recommend enough if it gets redone next christmas
I mean yeah, most of the battleforces were a huge deal if you either wanted to start, or didn’t have the character with it If you could lay a hand on them.
Boarding Patrol boxes were explicitly "one and done" releases. So some of the lesser ones are, at the time of writing, still available at or below MSRP, but most of the really good ones are already gone unless you pay eBay prices (which makes no sense, since they're no longer much of a discount if you do).
Sorry you guys delayed this video to come out for Boarding Patrols, when there has been every indication they are a limited run and will not be making more of them. The Farsight one especially got me, cause yall were like "get the farsight one" like anyone could! And not like scalpers bought them all the moment they were released.
@@commandercostas I hadnt heard anything about that, i do know boarding patrol is being supported to some extend? But listbuilding isn't based on the boxes the same way that Combat Patrols Boxes will apparently get their own gamemode
I like the pairing of the thousand sons combat and boarding patrol, it gives you a good mix of what they offer, pick up a box of sorcerers and Ahriman after that and you're sorted for a good army
I really like this idea, it's nice to have a breakdown of what's the best budget option. Unfortunately (Edit: Boarding Patrols) are a limited thing from what I recall :( I do think it's a shame and they should re-print them just due to popularity alone.
for those wondering the Boarding Patrol boxes ARE limited time. Once they are gone they are gone. Combat Patrol boxes are the ones they say will not be changing in the future and with them basically saying that Boarding Patrol will be supported for a while into 10th edition yeah those boxes aint long for this world.
@@420alphaomega the ghost keel is fine, not the best option but its expected when crisis suits are the cheapest units per point in TAU (80 USD for 3X45 with 0 guns, its usually 240+ for the full unit not including drones). It could have been way worse lets be honest.
My local games store ordered me the Sister's boarding patrol instead of the combat patrol on accident. Didn't even know the boarding patrol existed at that point. Saw the box and what it had, loved it, had him order me the combat patrol and got both. Best mistake of all time.
I’m actually tempted to start a small custodies force. Sorta wish I’d bought the xmas box. I think if the boarding patrol had Wardens and was £10 more expensive, it’d be perfect
As someone who bought a box of Termagants and Hormagaunts like 15 years ago for like £20 and hasn't painted them, looking at casually putting together a cool Tyranid army mainly for set dressing now is terrifying in price
The genestealers combat patrol is such good value its actually insane. Like that box makes building genestealers on the cheaper side compared to some other armies
One thing i hate about 40k is that for the past few years, I cant find %^& anything. So many things are sold out, then poof back up for a few days in stores or online, and then poof, gone again. It started with Covid but never ended, it's frustrating to go to buy something but I cant find it unless I turn to Ebay and sadly, it's marked up on eBay. This is frustrating. I do like some of the boxes they are making but, I cant find many of the ones I want.
Funny thing about chaos spawn proxy. Recently bought a board game, can't recall the name but it's western themed where you and other players delve into a mine and there are eldritch horrors and monsters you fight along the way. In the box are these models that are eldritch abominations that are perfect for Chaos Spawn Proxy as long as you can give them 50mm bases instead of 35. Which I'm definitely going to paint as emperors children and it was perfect timing because I just needed to find a way to dump 75pts into my list. The board game was like 110$ or something? But it has six of those abominations in it so it's technically a huge deal.
Ahhh yes, isn't it great when a company overcharges so much that buying board games with tons of stuff in them for a single part of them is still a better deal then buying that one GW product
For me, personally, Tzaangors are pretty much the coolest thousand sons units out there. Shame they suck and get forced down your throat so much. But they do look very cool
I know that this is very much "broad advice" episode, but man, I unironically love every model in the Necron Combat Patrol. Tomb Blades are my new find in my Necron collection that I like, and unless I am forced not to, I will always take at least 10 Tesla Immortals in any list. I think that getting two of the Combat Patrols with Mephrit is actually a pretty insane list, and maybe setting up 10-20 immortals and making Deathmarks once you get tired of Immortals is the way to go. Kitbashing a couple Overlords is what I ended up doing, making both a Scythe+Orb and Staff of Light+Orb variant that I can throw on my CCB. Only issue is that rules wise, both of the Scythe versions are not good, but with 10th on the way, and the Doom Scythe being pretty good in a Mephrit list, I think that can be overlooked for now. Again, if you are a Canoptek/Destroyer enjoyer, the Patrol is just an insta pass, but I think that saying it's a bad box isn't entirely true.
another great video! Love the edits and pacing. I actually WATCH the video instead of just listening like most podcasts! Keep up the great work, gents!
The Monopose Sisters in the Combat patrol are also nice for making lots of sisters look visually distinct. allthough the models in the box are single pose, theyre in different poses from the almost monopose models in the regular sisters kit. if you want to run 30+ sisters like I do, having some visual variety is nice. otherwise youd see the same poses crop up 3 or more times
As an AOS Tzeentch player, i have 60 Tzaangor. they throw em in everything, but i love the models. I have been trying to make them work so much, but in Tzeentch they're just not good. In the beasts of chaos last book they were great (you ran 30 blocks of them). but it still kinda blows that in Tzeentch they have never been great, but theyre much better in the new book than the old, but just dont work that well with the army.
"Never buy the necron combat patrol".... well i bought the necron combat patrol as my first box 😂 in my defense: i bought the box before watching this video 😂😂
damn this is crazy they just stopped printing the boarding patrol, that just invalidates half the vid. that’s infuriating, from a newcomer perspective and content creator wise
I understand, for points value, the Chaos Spawn might not be great for the dollar value. But that kit is a kitbashers dream, especially if your into to weird chaos mutant stuff.
I would argue the votann combat patrol is actually better than you've rated it since most good votann lists have 9 (minimum) hernkyn, it's not bad. Also basically every Votann list will have a kahl/Uthar who is built out the same kit
Death Guard has the worst combat patrol but the best boarding patrol. I think GW knew they couldn't screw up twice or Nurgle would've given them all his rot for the disrespect.
As a Adepta Sororitas player I think the Combat patrol is a better value than the Boarding. I look at the Boarding Patrol and I just want to pass. That Rhino and Seraphims are really important to the army list plus that single Penitent Engine/Mortifier means if you get the box with two to get a full squad of instead of buying two boxes and having to ditch one because you can’t have a squad of 4. Also that Chaos Boarding Patrol is an amazing value but you really only want to play as the Black Legion.
Started to get into Sisters of Battle and managed to find a Boarding Patrol at a decent discount. Sad to see that the Boarding Patrols were limited runs since it looks like the Boarding Patrols were better than the combat patrols in most of the cases.
As someone who by now owns 6 Necron combat patrols (I love the models and they're very much playable in opr) I find it very entertaining every time you start talking about how much you hate this box. :D
I have no issue with the box but dang putting together to tomb blades the first time was so fiddly, trying to fit the heads between the body and the orb is so frustrating.
So I bought the Eldar boarding patrol, (for kill team mostly) you can take corsairs in Craftworlds armies and they aren't terrible but they don't fill obligatory slots in armies unless the army is all corsairs.
The bikes for Votann are almost an auto take, so it makes sense to me to grab one cp, with the bp, then buy two land fortresses and then more bikes and you’re good.
that aberrant with the little guy next to him made me think about factions that have silly little guys. whatever that was is the genestealer one. imperium has cherubs. thousand sons has brimstone horrors. orks has grots of course. that would be a crazy, grading every factions x.
For space marines what i did is back in the day bought the Recruit Edition and now i picked up the Elite Edition before the new edition hits. From what we saw is very unlikely we will get many duplicates beetween the old boxes and the new ones vs tyranids so taking advantage of those huge discounts the edition boxes offer was a no brainer for me.
Totally agree that the Necron Combat Patrol, in & of itself, is trash...one of the worst. And that the Boarding Actions box is awesome. Funny thing about the Combat patrol is though...it actually pairs kinda nicely WITH the Boarding patrol box. If you get one of each, there's no doubled unit, so you get a good mix of a lot of the necron line with a lot of options (lychguard or praetorians (or 5 of each), immortals or deathmarks (or 5 of each), etc). The CP is still garbo alone, but paired with the BP...actually pretty good imo
@@istvankarolyfarkas6125 if you're just looking to flesh out your selection of necron units and you don't already have any of the ones in the CP, it's really not THAT bad...but just from a "beginning from scratch" perspective...and when you compare it to lots of the other Combat Patrols...its just a very random, bizarre, and not too useful selection of units. Immortals, deathmarks & night/doom scythe's see very little to almost no play, Overlords are easily acquired pretty much everywhere for cheaper (including in the Elite box...which is what I would tell you to get next while it's still available)...really the 3 Tomb Blades are the only draw here. And just 3 isn't going to do a ton
@@rteishe Elite is a plan. Also i don't really care about utility atm. Especially with 10th right around the corner. My only regret is that most of the characterss i would like to buy are only available though gws webshop and in finecast.
@István Károly Farkas yeah, who knows what 10th will bring for necrons. Elite box is fantastic value...Skorpehks Destroyers, Overlord, and more warriors & scarabs for $100...not to mention the space marine half which you can either sell or keep. Great box. Pairs very nicely with the Recruit box
@@rteishe I know. I am just dragging my feet on ordering it because of well,limited hobby dollars. Figuratively. From my name you can guess i am froma non dollar country
was listening back to this, and its wild how much they didn't really get the Eldar Boarding Patrol. So yeah, as a method to build up a craftworld army, you wouldnt wanna buy multiples and being corsair themed is very slanted. However, in Arks of Omen, because it got rid of the compulsory troops tax, people could run Corsairs as their cheap obsec with good weapons, and Boarding actions was one of the few places you could have a full corsair list because of only needing 500 points. They also included banshees, which right now every Craftworld list is running at least 1 squad of. So the Boarding patrol is actually really nice for someone who didn't get the kill team, and canget two copies of it now in addition to a unit they already would need anyways, and then Jain Zarr on top of that. I am way on a budget so I had to skip it, but that was the most attractive box that they came out in my eyes. So yeah, still good video, its just funny how that one bit feels so off compared to everything else.
So, I'm standing there preparing smoked corn on the cob, and hearing "if you like Khorne" about 8 times in a row made me lose it. I'm gonna play that over when my wife takes a bite.
I think I am going to buy the Thousand Sons boarding patrol becuase I live on an island, and shipping costs are crazy here. I'd rather buy 1 box then 3, even if the 3 are a slightly less price.
I just started the hobby and got Boarding Patrol CSM, I was planning on getting the Combat Patrol but between this and the $500 army episode you guys are negative on it. Is it just because it’s not as good as the Start Collecting or are the models really not good? I thought the Dark Apostle and Helbrute together made it a decent value.
I got the Sanctorum Guard Xmas box with Morven Val, 10x Battle Sisters, 5 x Celestian Sacresants and 6 x Paragon Warsuits, plus 2 x Mortifiers - because I like them. Would a Combat Patrol or Boarding Patrol be a sensible, interesting addition? I thought Combat Patrol had some wierdly sized units? Thoughts?
Tau player here. Tau boaridng patrol is better than combat patrol and buying 2 of him is not a terrible idea because you get to kitbash thr wings from a second commander and that leaves you tons of options for commanders off those boxes. That said the combat patrol isnt a bad deal. You want ethereals if you dont run FSE, cadre isnt bad as a tech choice for holding support relics and can be pretty good with enough fire warriors. Stealth suits are great. Those pieces alone mean you basically get a free ghostkeel which, while not insane, is a great hobby model and also fun in casual games
I don't care what you say, I like Rubric Marines, they look awesome, and I WILL get a Boarding Patrol cause I can just buy an HQ and play an OLDER EDITION!
I liked the concept of this episode, but it doesn't really hold up. Boarding patrols are limited release and several are already sold out with no indication they are coming back. Tau sold out in seconds and as a Farsight player who missed out, it was painful to listen to the Tau section as if there was actually an option.
@@datguy3907 I was informed by members of staff in multiple official warhammer shops that the Tau and Ork boxes were not coming back. Maybe the others will but Tau is what I was interested in so I'm not sure.
Am i the only one who outright refuses to put named characters in my lists? I like the idea of the faceless warriors charging into battle for a cause that is greater than them
I assume this video is ignoring the 2022 Battleforce boxes and only considers the Combat Patrols and Boarding Patrols boxes. Otherwise, I don’t agree that Adepta Sororitas is one of the most expensive armies to collect, because IF you get the Sanctorum Guard BF box, you’ll have 940 points of models for around $210 - up to 1005 pts with maxed out wargear. If you combine the Sanctorum Guard box with the CP and BP boxes, that’s nearly 2000 pts, for a little over $500 (before taxes). That’s not bad for a WH40K army. Admittedly, the units from those boxes might not create the most competitive army, but that’s not what this video was about.
If GW ever wanted to make a "Combat Patrol" for Knights, they would just need to make a $180-190 and all it includes is a single knight + a SINGLE Armiger (which can be converted into a Warglaive or Helverin, etc) + some made up upgrade sprue. The value of the box wouldn't exactly be "savings" except for the upgrade sprue, it wouldn't dig too much into the sale of the individual models to much, and it would allow new players to kit out a single armiger warglaive/helverin, and at a later point in time, pick up a box of warglaive/helverins to make it an even 3. If they so wanted to run 6 mini knights, they could just pick up 2 combat patrols, and 2 of each knight, and kit them out accordingly. The issue here stems from trying to create one for both Chaos and Imperium, as if we make the box too "eco friendly" in terms of finances it will ruin the sales of knight and armiger boxes. However, I see no way of somehow having a specific box cater to both Chaos and Imperium knights, without including 3 more sprues, and GW Management claiming that the box needs to be $240 to justify a bunch of extra bits being sold. In a perfect world, the Combat Patrol would have enough bits to swing both Chaos or Imperium, and only cost $180-190, where when you "purchase" the box, you would choose (or when you get to the store) you would pick up the sprues for Chaos or Imperium, and therefore somehow justify the cost to the company (even though we know they are making fistfuls of waffles in each hand for every knight sale)
Watch one video from two weeks ago: “The impulsor is a $70 kit and the glad is $75.” Watch one now: “The $85 impulsor and the $95 gladiator…” Holy inflation Batman
I actually only have a handful of tzaangors because I got my T-Sons in 7th edition, so I will gladly take any tzaangors you have if you mail em to me :P But in all seriousness, the conspiracy is even worse if you were in the game 8 years ago; Tzaangors were not only good, but also short printed. This is because of how 7th edition worked and they, point for point, were more durable than anything else in the game save for maybe Wracks. And despite the upgrade sprue, Tzaangors were more or less released at the same time for AoS and 40k. So huge demand, very, very little stock. GW then probably decided to overproduce for them until Tzaangors were selling so hard that people weren't playing T-Sons for the actual T-sons (the Rubrics were notoriously bad at this time) so they started nerfing Tzaangors, until they straight up restricted them from being taken. So yeah, it's *worse* than you had thought. Also back in 3.5 edition you could have havoc rubrics. Stew on that Brad :P
Boarding Patrols are temporary. Grabbing one of those now and a Combat Patrol later is the better idea for value. As for Impulsors, Black Templars love them. They get Multi Meltas on their Impulsors so they don't mind spamming them. Especially since they can stick Sword Brethren in them. For Corsair patrol, they do in fact work with Craftworld Eldar in Boarding Patrol. And honestly most Eldar players use most Eldar factions and don't mind getting all the models for cheap so it's a good value since the models are new and not resin. And you forgot to mention why Flash Gitz were great. They're dressed like Pirates, in a Boarding Actions game format. Perfect.
I'm watching this vid while painting my 2nd Edition singlepose Space Marines and nothing in the 42 min creates a buying reflex for me. Well, I'm staying true to my pile of shame of 1998 and play true poorhammer. ;)
Ummm did you trip over your pile of Tzaangors and hit your head? WE Combat patrol has 20 Berserkers, 10 Jackals and the lord you can make into generic version or Lord Invocatus. Buy Angron and some Eightbound and you have the entire range. Its a great box. Having duel options for the lord makes it great to buy 2 and puts it above other boxes with a named character. Sure you could say its not a great army but its WE, what else are you going to run beside mass Berserkers and Invocatus?
I have 50 Rubrics because I had 20, then got 30 for like $20-40 from a friend who was selling out, so I'm set for next edition unless they give a new wargear choice (unlikely)
AdMech is a vehicle army surrounded by squishy infantry with some more durable infantry that goes forward, the fact the combat patrol only has one vehicle who’s default is an anti Air specialist is kind of a travesty. I would have added a second vehicle, even a second dune career would be fine. and doubled either the skitarii or the kataphrons as both only have HALF thier max unit sizes, luckily there is hidden value in the skitarii as you can Kit bash a Marshal out of them very easily but then you’re running 9 skits and lose a lot of war gear. For the unit. By bashing the marshal you get a second HQ unit and with either a Dominus, Manipulus or cawl you can run 3 HQs as it would make the Enginseer not count towards the slot. I’m really hoping with the new Chaos god comes playable Dark Mechanicus and Cheaper AdMech/Iron hands boxes
It sounds like if you're a brand new player, the Adeptis Sororitas Combat Patrol could be a good starting point. Fewer options makes for a simpler starting point. But, I'm new, so it could be different in Warhammer 40k, but I doubt it.
Re: AdMech...one of the worst parts of AdMech is the faction has so few characters that each of these value boxes includes repeats of characters that were in previous boxes. Over the course of a couple of years of collecting them, I've acquired two Cawls and three Dominuses, as well as dozens of Skitarii ranger/vanguards, without even trying.
Incase anyone from the future is wondering about the World Eater combat patrol. I recommend it as a World Eater. You get lots of berserkers which allow you have lots of small squads or massive squads. A unit if jakhals which are cheap stuff to body block with or hold a home objective. The leader can be built as lord invocatus who's very powerful or a lord on juggernaut. Should you get 2? If you like hordes then you could but you'll have no elite options and personally I think two hqs on juggernauts could be too much even if one is the lord invocatus
The Tzaangor thing is not a joke. I play TS for 40k and DoT in AoS I have 60 Tzaangor, because A) they are in nearly every box and B) they are hard to sell off because everyone else who plays Tzeentch also own 60 Tzaangors.
I was planing on getting another combat Patrol Daemons anyways. I'd just wanted the hound character. I May have 10 more hounds but I'll have 50 bloodletters anyways
After 1 month of release of this video 6/06/2023. I can't find an ork boarding patrol online. Completely sold out. Hope they release some new units or starter kits to go with the codex next year.
Just make a t-shirt with "Rhinos are free" already
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It should have a graphic of a rhino in a rhino
I sent them a design for one.
I'd buy it as a hoodie
I'd buy it
A fun idea for a podcast video would be a “what would I put in X army’s combat patrol”
This is a great idea.
YES PLEASE
Ya, this one!
And certain groups, ie other daemons, space marines subfactions ig, maybe wyches/haemonculus groups Drukhari
Orks:
10 Boyz, 10 Gretchin, 5 Tankbustas (need new sculpts and also probably more useful in 10th), 1 Trukk, 1 Weirdboy (needs new sculpt), 1 Warboss.
That's about 440 points and would be near the 35% off at $160 that GW seems to target
Ironically the Chaos Daemons Combat Patrol is how you're supposed to start a Khorne Daemons army in Age of Sigmar. Still good there lol.
I swear that Chaos Daemons in 40k are just being used as a front to sell people on AoS. Make the 40k book unfun and make the AoS versions look as attractive as possible. It worked on me at least.
Kinda off topic for this channel, but this Combat Patrol also gives you almost 1000 points of Khorne Daemons for Warhammer: The Old World. Two would not give you a PERFECT 2000 points army (you can and should fill up the remaining points with magic items), but it is not unreasonable either.
It's such a shame boarding patrols are already announced to be temporary considering they're honestly a better price point to get your friends in to the game
They're all gone at least in australia. I was keen to grab the tau boarding patrol but had to settle for combat patrol
It’s a shame all the boarding patrols seem to be limited runs.
They should at least last into 10th since boarding patrol is “being supported” for a while into 10th
@@Unknown-qj9sm the game mode is being supported, not the box sets
this. I was going to get the ork BP and it sold out so now I have to 3d print it
@@Ynwell_theslaaneshi the eBay ones are usually more expensive than retail price cos scalpers are dicks
Yeah, the Boarding Patrol sets were nice. Both because they're slightly cheaper - effectively the replacement for Start Collecting - and because they could include alternative sets of units from the same army. (Ex: Drukhari having Kabalites + Incubi in the Combat Patrol, and Wyches in the Boarding Patrol.)
It's a crying shame they're limited time buys.
The sad thing is Imperial Knights had an AMAZING box set at christmas: "Chainbreaker Lance". One Knight Questoris, and two pairs of Armigers
A Questoris is usually £100
A pair of armigers is £50
The box set was £130.
It's an AMAZING box, cannot recommend enough if it gets redone next christmas
I mean yeah, most of the battleforces were a huge deal if you either wanted to start, or didn’t have the character with it
If you could lay a hand on them.
Would have been awesome for us down here in Aus... IF the country had been allocated more than like 3 : )
I see this floating around eBay sometimes and wonder how much of a deal it still is at eBay prices 🤔
Boarding Patrol boxes were explicitly "one and done" releases. So some of the lesser ones are, at the time of writing, still available at or below MSRP, but most of the really good ones are already gone unless you pay eBay prices (which makes no sense, since they're no longer much of a discount if you do).
For the tau box it does still make sense for farsight, not that it's like you'll be able to afford those prices
I really want a home brew list of “oops, all scarabs” for necrons now
Sorry you guys delayed this video to come out for Boarding Patrols, when there has been every indication they are a limited run and will not be making more of them.
The Farsight one especially got me, cause yall were like "get the farsight one" like anyone could! And not like scalpers bought them all the moment they were released.
In Munich they brought just 2 boxes of Tau Boarding Patrol to official store when they went on sale
Aren't they getting re-released in 10th?
@@commandercostas I hadnt heard anything about that, i do know boarding patrol is being supported to some extend? But listbuilding isn't based on the boxes the same way that Combat Patrols Boxes will apparently get their own gamemode
Yep. The scalpers went straight after the really good ones
When you guys cite the msrp, I always forget that combat patrols are $160😢Yeah, those space marines boxes get pretty rough at that price
Amazon always discounts them to 120 ish tho
Hey boomers, can I borrow a Rhino
Love the exasperation for tzangors everytime they are mentioned
Tyranids being the greatest cosmic threat in all of 40k.
Eric: I think the Termagants are kinda cute.
I like the pairing of the thousand sons combat and boarding patrol, it gives you a good mix of what they offer, pick up a box of sorcerers and Ahriman after that and you're sorted for a good army
I really like this idea, it's nice to have a breakdown of what's the best budget option.
Unfortunately (Edit: Boarding Patrols) are a limited thing from what I recall :(
I do think it's a shame and they should re-print them just due to popularity alone.
it's the boarding patrols which are a limited thing which is dumb as hell since some boarding patrols are just better than the combat patrols
for those wondering the Boarding Patrol boxes ARE limited time. Once they are gone they are gone. Combat Patrol boxes are the ones they say will not be changing in the future and with them basically saying that Boarding Patrol will be supported for a while into 10th edition yeah those boxes aint long for this world.
which is a shame because some of them seem pretty subpar like the tau one (ghostkeel instead of crisis suits really GW?)
@@420alphaomega the ghost keel is fine, not the best option but its expected when crisis suits are the cheapest units per point in TAU (80 USD for 3X45 with 0 guns, its usually 240+ for the full unit not including drones). It could have been way worse lets be honest.
My local games store ordered me the Sister's boarding patrol instead of the combat patrol on accident. Didn't even know the boarding patrol existed at that point. Saw the box and what it had, loved it, had him order me the combat patrol and got both. Best mistake of all time.
I’m actually tempted to start a small custodies force. Sorta wish I’d bought the xmas box.
I think if the boarding patrol had Wardens and was £10 more expensive, it’d be perfect
As someone who bought a box of Termagants and Hormagaunts like 15 years ago for like £20 and hasn't painted them, looking at casually putting together a cool Tyranid army mainly for set dressing now is terrifying in price
If rhinos are free why can't I find one? 😩
I know I want four in total, get a recast repressor kit and have better looking transports for my sisters. T-T
The genestealers combat patrol is such good value its actually insane. Like that box makes building genestealers on the cheaper side compared to some other armies
One thing i hate about 40k is that for the past few years, I cant find %^& anything. So many things are sold out, then poof back up for a few days in stores or online, and then poof, gone again. It started with Covid but never ended, it's frustrating to go to buy something but I cant find it unless I turn to Ebay and sadly, it's marked up on eBay. This is frustrating. I do like some of the boxes they are making but, I cant find many of the ones I want.
Funny thing about chaos spawn proxy.
Recently bought a board game, can't recall the name but it's western themed where you and other players delve into a mine and there are eldritch horrors and monsters you fight along the way.
In the box are these models that are eldritch abominations that are perfect for Chaos Spawn Proxy as long as you can give them 50mm bases instead of 35. Which I'm definitely going to paint as emperors children and it was perfect timing because I just needed to find a way to dump 75pts into my list.
The board game was like 110$ or something? But it has six of those abominations in it so it's technically a huge deal.
Ahhh yes, isn't it great when a company overcharges so much that buying board games with tons of stuff in them for a single part of them is still a better deal then buying that one GW product
Start collecting boxes that can't even be played legally really make me question if I'm getting into the right hobby here.
I need "Rhinos are free" on a t-shirt
For me, personally, Tzaangors are pretty much the coolest thousand sons units out there. Shame they suck and get forced down your throat so much. But they do look very cool
I know that this is very much "broad advice" episode, but man, I unironically love every model in the Necron Combat Patrol. Tomb Blades are my new find in my Necron collection that I like, and unless I am forced not to, I will always take at least 10 Tesla Immortals in any list. I think that getting two of the Combat Patrols with Mephrit is actually a pretty insane list, and maybe setting up 10-20 immortals and making Deathmarks once you get tired of Immortals is the way to go. Kitbashing a couple Overlords is what I ended up doing, making both a Scythe+Orb and Staff of Light+Orb variant that I can throw on my CCB. Only issue is that rules wise, both of the Scythe versions are not good, but with 10th on the way, and the Doom Scythe being pretty good in a Mephrit list, I think that can be overlooked for now. Again, if you are a Canoptek/Destroyer enjoyer, the Patrol is just an insta pass, but I think that saying it's a bad box isn't entirely true.
The great thing about the sister's boarding patrol box is it does come with the non monopose Sister squad with more options for bits.
I would love to see this done again once 10E drops and see how much changes.
another great video! Love the edits and pacing. I actually WATCH the video instead of just listening like most podcasts! Keep up the great work, gents!
What they did with boarding patrols being so limited was ridiculous.
The Monopose Sisters in the Combat patrol are also nice for making lots of sisters look visually distinct. allthough the models in the box are single pose, theyre in different poses from the almost monopose models in the regular sisters kit. if you want to run 30+ sisters like I do, having some visual variety is nice. otherwise youd see the same poses crop up 3 or more times
My brain can only recognize a box as worth it if the box comes with a vehicle
As an AOS Tzeentch player, i have 60 Tzaangor. they throw em in everything, but i love the models. I have been trying to make them work so much, but in Tzeentch they're just not good.
In the beasts of chaos last book they were great (you ran 30 blocks of them). but it still kinda blows that in Tzeentch they have never been great, but theyre much better in the new book than the old, but just dont work that well with the army.
"Never buy the necron combat patrol".... well i bought the necron combat patrol as my first box 😂 in my defense: i bought the box before watching this video 😂😂
damn this is crazy they just stopped printing the boarding patrol, that just invalidates half the vid.
that’s infuriating, from a newcomer perspective and content creator wise
I understand, for points value, the Chaos Spawn might not be great for the dollar value. But that kit is a kitbashers dream, especially if your into to weird chaos mutant stuff.
I would argue the votann combat patrol is actually better than you've rated it since most good votann lists have 9 (minimum) hernkyn, it's not bad. Also basically every Votann list will have a kahl/Uthar who is built out the same kit
Death Guard has the worst combat patrol but the best boarding patrol.
I think GW knew they couldn't screw up twice or Nurgle would've given them all his rot for the disrespect.
More great editing. Well done editor.
The World Eater combat patrol is actually good when you realize that Berzerkers as a unit fulfill multiple roles.
It’s a great starting point
Shame it's been 12 weeks and it still hasn't come out for preorder
@@jamesdo3086 fax.
I have been waiting to buy the combat patrol for 4 months to start the army, but I guess GW doesn't want money.
As a Adepta Sororitas player I think the Combat patrol is a better value than the Boarding. I look at the Boarding Patrol and I just want to pass. That Rhino and Seraphims are really important to the army list plus that single Penitent Engine/Mortifier means if you get the box with two to get a full squad of instead of buying two boxes and having to ditch one because you can’t have a squad of 4. Also that Chaos Boarding Patrol is an amazing value but you really only want to play as the Black Legion.
Started to get into Sisters of Battle and managed to find a Boarding Patrol at a decent discount. Sad to see that the Boarding Patrols were limited runs since it looks like the Boarding Patrols were better than the combat patrols in most of the cases.
Yay we got the burning 'positive' from Eric finally!
wish the boarding patrol for deathgaurd wasn't perpetually sold out had to go with the combat patrol 😢
"Buy the T'au boarding patrol" they say... but you cannot do so, anywhere lol
I’m just glad I managed to pick up an old CSM start collecting from my local store before they replaced it.
Quick note for the two Tau boxes :
Convert the Ethereal into a Cadre Fireblade with the fire warrior spare parts
Old AdMech Combat Patrol looking a lot better in hindsight.
As someone who by now owns 6 Necron combat patrols (I love the models and they're very much playable in opr) I find it very entertaining every time you start talking about how much you hate this box. :D
I have no issue with the box but dang putting together to tomb blades the first time was so fiddly, trying to fit the heads between the body and the orb is so frustrating.
Your episodes focused on the approach to the hobby are excellent, and the 2 of you have a fantastic chemistry! Thank you for the entertainment!
So I bought the Eldar boarding patrol, (for kill team mostly) you can take corsairs in Craftworlds armies and they aren't terrible but they don't fill obligatory slots in armies unless the army is all corsairs.
This video's a bit moot since boarding patrols were limited run.
There's so many secondhand stores in my area that no one had rhinos I could have :( I had to buy them for like $20
The bikes for Votann are almost an auto take, so it makes sense to me to grab one cp, with the bp, then buy two land fortresses and then more bikes and you’re good.
that aberrant with the little guy next to him made me think about factions that have silly little guys.
whatever that was is the genestealer one.
imperium has cherubs.
thousand sons has brimstone horrors.
orks has grots of course.
that would be a crazy, grading every factions x.
Ripper swarms for nids
Scarabs for necrons
Nurglings for DG
Watcher in the dark for DA
Drones for Tau
For space marines what i did is back in the day bought the Recruit Edition and now i picked up the Elite Edition before the new edition hits.
From what we saw is very unlikely we will get many duplicates beetween the old boxes and the new ones vs tyranids so taking advantage of those huge discounts the edition boxes offer was a no brainer for me.
As a Tyranid player, with the release of 10th edition, my condolences are out for all Eldar players.
Totally agree that the Necron Combat Patrol, in & of itself, is trash...one of the worst. And that the Boarding Actions box is awesome. Funny thing about the Combat patrol is though...it actually pairs kinda nicely WITH the Boarding patrol box. If you get one of each, there's no doubled unit, so you get a good mix of a lot of the necron line with a lot of options (lychguard or praetorians (or 5 of each), immortals or deathmarks (or 5 of each), etc). The CP is still garbo alone, but paired with the BP...actually pretty good imo
Why is the combat parol bad?
New player here. I have recruit ed+ boarding patrol.
@@istvankarolyfarkas6125 if you're just looking to flesh out your selection of necron units and you don't already have any of the ones in the CP, it's really not THAT bad...but just from a "beginning from scratch" perspective...and when you compare it to lots of the other Combat Patrols...its just a very random, bizarre, and not too useful selection of units. Immortals, deathmarks & night/doom scythe's see very little to almost no play, Overlords are easily acquired pretty much everywhere for cheaper (including in the Elite box...which is what I would tell you to get next while it's still available)...really the 3 Tomb Blades are the only draw here. And just 3 isn't going to do a ton
@@rteishe Elite is a plan.
Also i don't really care about utility atm.
Especially with 10th right around the corner.
My only regret is that most of the characterss i would like to buy are only available though gws webshop and in finecast.
@István Károly Farkas yeah, who knows what 10th will bring for necrons. Elite box is fantastic value...Skorpehks Destroyers, Overlord, and more warriors & scarabs for $100...not to mention the space marine half which you can either sell or keep. Great box. Pairs very nicely with the Recruit box
@@rteishe I know.
I am just dragging my feet on ordering it because of well,limited hobby dollars.
Figuratively. From my name you can guess i am froma non dollar country
howling banshees are sick. I got opinions on your taste sand man.
As someone who bought the drukhari combat patrol and boarding box last week. Big agree lol
was listening back to this, and its wild how much they didn't really get the Eldar Boarding Patrol.
So yeah, as a method to build up a craftworld army, you wouldnt wanna buy multiples and being corsair themed is very slanted.
However, in Arks of Omen, because it got rid of the compulsory troops tax, people could run Corsairs as their cheap obsec with good weapons, and Boarding actions was one of the few places you could have a full corsair list because of only needing 500 points. They also included banshees, which right now every Craftworld list is running at least 1 squad of.
So the Boarding patrol is actually really nice for someone who didn't get the kill team, and canget two copies of it now in addition to a unit they already would need anyways, and then Jain Zarr on top of that.
I am way on a budget so I had to skip it, but that was the most attractive box that they came out in my eyes.
So yeah, still good video, its just funny how that one bit feels so off compared to everything else.
I honestly would collect T’au for Kroot and Battle Suits and Farsight. I just want them to have more Xenos in their army
So, I'm standing there preparing smoked corn on the cob, and hearing "if you like Khorne" about 8 times in a row made me lose it. I'm gonna play that over when my wife takes a bite.
What happens if Tzangoors are totally awesome in 10th edition? Let's be honest - the models are pretty cool
Obviously the second stealth ork should be covered in bits to look like a terrain pics to show he’s just that good at hiding.
You two are great. Keep it up. I love Thousand Sons and getting into Adeptus Custodes, I think I will get the combat patrol.
I think I am going to buy the Thousand Sons boarding patrol becuase I live on an island, and shipping costs are crazy here. I'd rather buy 1 box then 3, even if the 3 are a slightly less price.
I just started the hobby and got Boarding Patrol CSM, I was planning on getting the Combat Patrol but between this and the $500 army episode you guys are negative on it. Is it just because it’s not as good as the Start Collecting or are the models really not good? I thought the Dark Apostle and Helbrute together made it a decent value.
I got the Sanctorum Guard Xmas box with Morven Val, 10x Battle Sisters, 5 x Celestian Sacresants and 6 x Paragon Warsuits, plus 2 x Mortifiers - because I like them. Would a Combat Patrol or Boarding Patrol be a sensible, interesting addition? I thought Combat Patrol had some wierdly sized units? Thoughts?
Aesthetically I love Tzangors but otherwise...
They wouldn't be a problem if GW would just make them good.
Not gonna lie I went straight for that Agents Of The Imperium box, £68 in the UK and that Starstriders kit alone goes for £40 on eBay.
Tau player here.
Tau boaridng patrol is better than combat patrol and buying 2 of him is not a terrible idea because you get to kitbash thr wings from a second commander and that leaves you tons of options for commanders off those boxes.
That said the combat patrol isnt a bad deal. You want ethereals if you dont run FSE, cadre isnt bad as a tech choice for holding support relics and can be pretty good with enough fire warriors. Stealth suits are great. Those pieces alone mean you basically get a free ghostkeel which, while not insane, is a great hobby model and also fun in casual games
I don't care what you say, I like Rubric Marines, they look awesome, and I WILL get a Boarding Patrol cause I can just buy an HQ and play an OLDER EDITION!
The combat patrol still gives you another hq in the Cadre Fireblade
Is eric a grey knights chaplain?
And Poggers
I liked the concept of this episode, but it doesn't really hold up. Boarding patrols are limited release and several are already sold out with no indication they are coming back.
Tau sold out in seconds and as a Farsight player who missed out, it was painful to listen to the Tau section as if there was actually an option.
Boarding patrols are going to last through 10th
@@datguy3907 I was informed by members of staff in multiple official warhammer shops that the Tau and Ork boxes were not coming back. Maybe the others will but Tau is what I was interested in so I'm not sure.
Am i the only one who outright refuses to put named characters in my lists? I like the idea of the faceless warriors charging into battle for a cause that is greater than them
Well shit, I just started out by buying a Sororitas combat patrol 🙈💸💸💸
I did get it cheaper than your boarding patrol, though..
Where does one get free rhinos?😢
It was all limited time only 😭
I assume this video is ignoring the 2022 Battleforce boxes and only considers the Combat Patrols and Boarding Patrols boxes. Otherwise, I don’t agree that Adepta Sororitas is one of the most expensive armies to collect, because IF you get the Sanctorum Guard BF box, you’ll have 940 points of models for around $210 - up to 1005 pts with maxed out wargear.
If you combine the Sanctorum Guard box with the CP and BP boxes, that’s nearly 2000 pts, for a little over $500 (before taxes). That’s not bad for a WH40K army. Admittedly, the units from those boxes might not create the most competitive army, but that’s not what this video was about.
If GW ever wanted to make a "Combat Patrol" for Knights, they would just need to make a $180-190 and all it includes is a single knight + a SINGLE Armiger (which can be converted into a Warglaive or Helverin, etc) + some made up upgrade sprue.
The value of the box wouldn't exactly be "savings" except for the upgrade sprue, it wouldn't dig too much into the sale of the individual models to much, and it would allow new players to kit out a single armiger warglaive/helverin, and at a later point in time, pick up a box of warglaive/helverins to make it an even 3. If they so wanted to run 6 mini knights, they could just pick up 2 combat patrols, and 2 of each knight, and kit them out accordingly.
The issue here stems from trying to create one for both Chaos and Imperium, as if we make the box too "eco friendly" in terms of finances it will ruin the sales of knight and armiger boxes. However, I see no way of somehow having a specific box cater to both Chaos and Imperium knights, without including 3 more sprues, and GW Management claiming that the box needs to be $240 to justify a bunch of extra bits being sold.
In a perfect world, the Combat Patrol would have enough bits to swing both Chaos or Imperium, and only cost $180-190, where when you "purchase" the box, you would choose (or when you get to the store) you would pick up the sprues for Chaos or Imperium, and therefore somehow justify the cost to the company (even though we know they are making fistfuls of waffles in each hand for every knight sale)
Watch one video from two weeks ago:
“The impulsor is a $70 kit and the glad is $75.”
Watch one now:
“The $85 impulsor and the $95 gladiator…”
Holy inflation Batman
I actually only have a handful of tzaangors because I got my T-Sons in 7th edition, so I will gladly take any tzaangors you have if you mail em to me :P
But in all seriousness, the conspiracy is even worse if you were in the game 8 years ago; Tzaangors were not only good, but also short printed. This is because of how 7th edition worked and they, point for point, were more durable than anything else in the game save for maybe Wracks. And despite the upgrade sprue, Tzaangors were more or less released at the same time for AoS and 40k. So huge demand, very, very little stock. GW then probably decided to overproduce for them until Tzaangors were selling so hard that people weren't playing T-Sons for the actual T-sons (the Rubrics were notoriously bad at this time) so they started nerfing Tzaangors, until they straight up restricted them from being taken.
So yeah, it's *worse* than you had thought. Also back in 3.5 edition you could have havoc rubrics. Stew on that Brad :P
Boarding Patrols are temporary. Grabbing one of those now and a Combat Patrol later is the better idea for value.
As for Impulsors, Black Templars love them. They get Multi Meltas on their Impulsors so they don't mind spamming them. Especially since they can stick Sword Brethren in them.
For Corsair patrol, they do in fact work with Craftworld Eldar in Boarding Patrol. And honestly most Eldar players use most Eldar factions and don't mind getting all the models for cheap so it's a good value since the models are new and not resin.
And you forgot to mention why Flash Gitz were great. They're dressed like Pirates, in a Boarding Actions game format. Perfect.
I'm watching this vid while painting my 2nd Edition singlepose Space Marines and nothing in the 42 min creates a buying reflex for me. Well, I'm staying true to my pile of shame of 1998 and play true poorhammer. ;)
Ummm did you trip over your pile of Tzaangors and hit your head? WE Combat patrol has 20 Berserkers, 10 Jackals and the lord you can make into generic version or Lord Invocatus. Buy Angron and some Eightbound and you have the entire range. Its a great box. Having duel options for the lord makes it great to buy 2 and puts it above other boxes with a named character. Sure you could say its not a great army but its WE, what else are you going to run beside mass Berserkers and Invocatus?
I have 50 Rubrics because I had 20, then got 30 for like $20-40 from a friend who was selling out, so I'm set for next edition unless they give a new wargear choice (unlikely)
AdMech is a vehicle army surrounded by squishy infantry with some more durable infantry that goes forward, the fact the combat patrol only has one vehicle who’s default is an anti Air specialist is kind of a travesty. I would have added a second vehicle, even a second dune career would be fine. and doubled either the skitarii or the kataphrons as both only have HALF thier max unit sizes, luckily there is hidden value in the skitarii as you can Kit bash a Marshal out of them very easily but then you’re running 9 skits and lose a lot of war gear. For the unit. By bashing the marshal you get a second HQ unit and with either a Dominus, Manipulus or cawl you can run 3 HQs as it would make the Enginseer not count towards the slot.
I’m really hoping with the new Chaos god comes playable Dark Mechanicus and Cheaper AdMech/Iron hands boxes
It sounds like if you're a brand new player, the Adeptis Sororitas Combat Patrol could be a good starting point. Fewer options makes for a simpler starting point. But, I'm new, so it could be different in Warhammer 40k, but I doubt it.
Combat Patrol Tyranids is crap wait for the new edition! Termagants current Combat Patrol 25mm base. New Termagants 28mm base!!!!
Seems a bit pointless to talk about boarding patrols when they were limited releases that all disappeared in seconds.
Re: AdMech...one of the worst parts of AdMech is the faction has so few characters that each of these value boxes includes repeats of characters that were in previous boxes. Over the course of a couple of years of collecting them, I've acquired two Cawls and three Dominuses, as well as dozens of Skitarii ranger/vanguards, without even trying.
Incase anyone from the future is wondering about the World Eater combat patrol. I recommend it as a World Eater. You get lots of berserkers which allow you have lots of small squads or massive squads. A unit if jakhals which are cheap stuff to body block with or hold a home objective. The leader can be built as lord invocatus who's very powerful or a lord on juggernaut. Should you get 2? If you like hordes then you could but you'll have no elite options and personally I think two hqs on juggernauts could be too much even if one is the lord invocatus
The Tzaangor thing is not a joke. I play TS for 40k and DoT in AoS I have 60 Tzaangor, because A) they are in nearly every box and B) they are hard to sell off because everyone else who plays Tzeentch also own 60 Tzaangors.
I was planing on getting another combat Patrol Daemons anyways. I'd just wanted the hound character. I May have 10 more hounds but I'll have 50 bloodletters anyways
After 1 month of release of this video 6/06/2023. I can't find an ork boarding patrol online. Completely sold out. Hope they release some new units or starter kits to go with the codex next year.
That's criminal that GW asks for $160 for thousand sons. Amazon venders knows they don't sell well, and have them at $100, which is still, not great.