I think the tau looks great overall love the battle damaged look and grime on the white color, especially the 3d printed addons make them look great. Tank looks like it was painted with fingerpaints sadly.
The fact they had to start at the used model market to even make this feasible says everything we need to know. On a related note if you live in an area with a vibrant tournament scene you can probably get a used army pretty cheap. In my home town where the tournament scene is everything we would regularly trade armies for very little as the meta changed. I once owned a huge Krieg army I bought for $100.00 USD and a Blood Angels army half the size. I traded that army for Space Wolves, traded them for Cadian Imperial Guard, and finally traded that army for my original army I started playing with many years prior; Dark Angels. No one cared about the price as long as the army stayed in the broader community, with unique exceptions like the Krieg army because of how hard they are to acquire.
This is exactly what I was thinking. I kinda feel the video starts with the wrong question, as it pretty much answers it within 5% of it's run time, the rest just being the process of the challenge (which, don't get me wrong, was fun to watch). I don't have the play group anecdotes to put in, but while I'm willing to concede that you're not going to get a tournament ready army in any tabletop system at the scale of 40k for 100€ (or $ or whatever), you should be able to pull together 1000pts, off the shelf, at 200€ for at least the majority of the armies available, which is very much not the case.
@@Chii1991$100 AUD gets me maybe 1 box of units and a low end character. It’s horrible. Buying online or at some of our third party game shops saves 10-20%, even then it’s costing me approximately $600 for 1000 points depending on the army
Highly encourage you all to go back and watch the kill team one from about 3 years ago… still some of my favourite warhammer hobby vids ever. Pure fun and joy.
I'm shocked nobody went necrons. They're still super cheap to build. Find an old recruit edition (or old sculpts), sell the space marines, night bringer, command barge (build as two units), Doom scythe/Doomsday ark.
Yeah if my opponet had a tau army like that i wouldnt first think it was painted in just one day. It looks good especially from distance. Those others need to be looked from 10meters away to look good.
I really enjoy these types of shows, it is fun to see how everyone would tackle this challenge. Living in Australia I think I could get a space marine for $100 XD And I was so happy that this was made into a 47min video, great work mate.
This was my introduction to your channel. I absolutely loved this and wish my game group would be open to something like this. Please do this again and frequently!
I’m an American. I can’t even get two combat patrols for 100 pounds. Let alone any challenge against 40k being too expensive should be out of games workshops own store. I wonder why that couldn’t happen.
Me and my buddies are dipping out toes into Blood Bowl. Split a starter for $70 each and then $40ish for other teams if we want them. Different from full 40k but at least semi affordable
Uh... you can't even get one combat patrol for that price. Maybe if you get it on sale. However, while it is an expensive hobby, I don't think it's as bad as is often claimed. For certain armies you can buy 3 or 4 combat patrols over a year or so and have a full 2000pts. Let's say that's about $500 per year. PC gaming is easily that expensive, even if you only buy games on sale, when you add in hardware upgrades every few years. Snowboarding/skiing is much more expensive. I've spent $500 in a year easy in MTG, and I'm not even playing spiky formats. Traveling will cost you that much for a single week. Going to the movies with your girlfriend every other weekend is more expensive than that. Just saying, prices are high for anything. If you spend a lot of time on it and get enjoyment out of it, then I say it's worth it, and so do you, or you wouldn't play.
You can get a decent 3D scanner too. The price varies anywhere between $350-$1700, but once you have one you can create STLs out of models that already exist. See one you like? Scan it. Print it. Enjoy.
honestly i wholeheartedly support people getting into 3d printing if they want and can, its so much cheaper, and you dont have to change an entire armys worth of models because everything they hyped up last month isnt the new hotness
An army of ultra marines, including the starting set. Is Currently $874 US. Without including time, paint, glue, pins/magnet connectors ect. Thst is an insane barrier to entery.
This was a fantastic video and really felt relatable to "me and a small group of friends could do this" compared to all larger form 40k videos filmed in a studio with studio lights. This was rad. Thanks for making it and I look forward to seeing what you do in future!
This was a really great concept! Great work! :D I would love to have seen summaries after each section because it was impossible to follow who had bought what, where they bought them, what they looked like before and after
I'm a first time viewer and I really enjoyed this episode. Funny, varied and a bit... top gear- ish? I mean we have four friends solving a challenge with loads of banter and fun. Variety wise, we had modelling painting and even some mini battle reports, which were a pleasant surprise. Oh and there was some amusingly familiar movie soundtracks played on what sounded like a bbc model B music computer program from 1986. I loved it. 😊
do people actually have 1,000 point tournies? I think one of the bigger challenges in the US is not only do we get everything as an "import" but people default to 2k points to the point that it can be hard to find games below that
First time I've watched one of your videos - I've subscribed for more! I enjoyed the premise, I enjoyed the play by play of each section. I think all of them were completely robbed in terms of prices on ebay, even the Tau to a degree! Looking forward to exploring your content!
Never played this game, never bought a mini, I know very little about the universe of the 40k, and all that to say I had a great time watching this video! Such a fun looking time all around.
My strategy for this challenge would be getting the necron Ctan shard models since they're like 280pts each and can be printed quite cheap due to their size. Even buying them officially they are only like 35$.
I don't really know why you subtracted the 100 points for the 100 dollars they spent, 41 points for the orks VP and 95 for the eldars paint job (with the last one being especially out of left field), because otherwise everyone would have at least positive points and in relation to each other it didn't make any difference. Maybe divide by the amount of challenges in the end to get an average after also awarding 100 points for getting to 1000 points.
@@BattleCamperHome So how much did you spend on models and paints for that Eldar army? Gotta remember to subtract points for how much you go over the 100 pound budget.
Very entertaining video this - I do feel bad for all the loss made on the armies, they didn’t deserve such poor bids! But I guess shows we can get armies for way less than £100!
I am super grateful to have stumbled across this video/channel! Forgot how cool the I thought the Tau looked and am going to pick up a battlebox at Christmas! Loving all your LOTR content btw!
I think the only way of making this challenge work with no second-hand miniatures is the custodes combat patrol. You can get it for ~85 pounds and with enhancements it's a 1k list that is actually "playable" in 10e
Pay $250 and you pretty much have all the mechs you'd ever want. Though plastic quality is alway a pain so i'd rather have companies just license STLs of their mini's.
John would have actually eaten that crisp as well. This looks like a lot of fun and the gaming has made me glance longingly at the grey eldar waiting to get painted!
I love that this basically shows, no, you cant build one for this amount of money. Whether through 3D printing or having existing supplies, each one needed more than just having £100 to buy the models. And its also a limited experience because the only feasible way of getting any sort of army was to buy used, and not used well but well used. So no building, which limits any of your own input to just painting or bringing in outside scultping/3DP'd material. But again, that adds to the cost. Buying paints, brushes, and tools can set you back that much. Even when you buy all of the non paint supplies off of Temu. So for someone looking to get started, easily double that number to do your own used army. Quintuple or... 15-uple if you want to do your army new.
@BattleCamper just discovered you channel from this video. Very much enjoyed it and went on to watch several others. Great work! If you are ever in Manchester please hit me up. I plan on restarting my channel next year now the kids older! Need more channela like yours, realistic wargaming perspective!
Thanks very much!! I'll certainly let you know. I hope you're able to get back out the channel. Can't imagine how difficult that is to balance with kids
Mixed thoughts, on one hand, definitely a train wreck and some pretty sorry models collected together. Obviously it's a struggle if its 400 out of your pocket to finance this adventure, but the general premise I like. Maybe the budget is too small. I do like the challenge idea of here's your budget, go get a thousand points of an army and get it table ready, but perhaps these restrictions were too restrictive. As much as I really need to build and paint my own pile of shame, I did struggle falling asleep last night considering how I would tackle the task, what army, etc. I will be checking back periodically to see if you do another challenge like this, whether with the same group of guys or a different foursome.
I really don't think Warhammer is too expensive. As far as a hobby goes it's probably quite average. within the tabletop wargames space it's on the higher end, but it's also wholly produced and manufactured in England to an incredibly high standard, at least to me that is very important. I know Bolt gun is also made in England and as far as I understand it's pretty similarly priced, yes you can get third party minis for less, but then they are made by little chinese kids, personally I am not so into that. Within the same hobby space warhammer is straight up cheap. Boardgames are extremely expensive and most board game groups constantly buy and play new games at almost every meeting. Your average trading card game deck for Pokemon, Magic or yu-gi-oh will set you back in the thousands of dollars, and those cards will only last you until they are taken out of rotation. If we move outside of tabletop games completely and look at other popular hobbies like fishing, photography, golf, airsoft, paintball, skiing, surfing, motorcycles, cars, parachuting etc. Then it is abundantly clear that the amount of fun time we get out of a single 50 dollar kit is leagues ahead of how far 50 bucks gets you in many other hobbies.
I hope you manage to recoup some of that money from the video at least hahah! Brilliant, gotta love the half naked scotsman being completely lore accurate aswell. Something to take away from this, this is 100% what wargaming is all about. Getting together with a bunch of mates crashing on the settee, airbeds or topping and tailing, munching some pizza and having a fucking fun time watching a shit film. 10/10 having the best time. Thankyou for the content
"here's £100 don't exceed that for your army" "You also have points and 3D printing to do the thing. " Why not invest in 3D printed miniatures for like... £26-50 instead?
I have zero interest in 40k but gladly watched this video because of the concept. I think this would be great for MESBG as well. Happy for you that this video has smashed your record views total. Hope the Algorithm helps spread your channel to a wider audience.
Nice of ya to get your content partner and kids in a family friendly video! Great idea and theme for a vid, definitely could do AOS, MESBG with the same format!
A lot of people commenting as if buying second hand is illegitimate. Sure you can get some rough results, there's nothing wrong with using that as your way into the hobby. Especially if you're not being as cheap, up the amount a bit and you can get some nicer stuff. I have a 2k Chaos army out of an off the shelf world eaters combat patrol, plus some extra units bought cheap off people, some loose bits for conversion, and an extra box of legionaries and a box of terminators. Whole army cost under 200 pounds, and if I finished painting it looks, in my opinion, great. Not like something that crawled out of a bin. For a new player, I would suggest buying a Killteam or a combat patrol, and getting into a club in your area playing that. Expand out slowly from there, having a community of people who play the game that you know will make it very easy to get models for cheap. Almost every warhammer player has a lot of bits they have no issue parting with some of for free, and even models they may be happy to give away.
Amazing video, loved this.... can't believe J Macc won but his wash on white scheme was simply amazing. Then added in with those colourful 3D prints just made it so nice. good video. can;t wait for next years competition.
Hayden's Standard bearer is quiet rare, it was from the SKULLZ promotion in the 90's some people pay silly money for him. Great episode. I love these kinds of challenges
I recently picked up a new on sprue Necron annihilation barge for 0.99 + 4 ship as an imperium magazine from eBay. So I’d say buying a bunch of the imperium magazines from eBay would’ve probably yielded better value for money. This was an interesting watch though
I really have to say this could be a great series very interesting take on the hobby but I would love to see the points limits drop a bit to maybe 750p for an army or change the edition because in older edition there is more room for conversions and also you need less miniatures). But great work overall
I did have a go at "buying "a £100 army and found the khorne Daemon combat patrol for £85 at Element Games and a Skullmaster for 15.99 on ebay. Okay that was a 5 minute non- effort and I was 99p + P&P over but I reckon its probably close to 1000pts and its a very competitive combat patrol.
Walked (practically ran) away from GW over a year ago. Combination of the crazy prices and the FOMO marketing strategy. Fortunately my interest lies with building and painting, not gaming. So now get figures from Mantic, Wargames Atlantic as well as the Stargrave range. When you can get 20 to 24 figures for a little over £20.00 then its a no brainer. I could field 96 "ooh Rah" Marines for £100.00, 80 Mantic GCPS troopers for £100.00 or 100 Stargrave Troopers for £90.00. Compared to 10 new Intercessors and 5 new Heavy intercesors (ie 15 GW figures) for a shade under £90.
Some brave and valiant efforts here. Mostly from the painting judges trying to say nice things about the quality of the work
Haha. I think they were fair... About the eldar at least
I think the tau looks great overall love the battle damaged look and grime on the white color, especially the 3d printed addons make them look great. Tank looks like it was painted with fingerpaints sadly.
"I'll eat it for points" 🤣 man I wish that had been clocked...
Me too! I only spotted it when editing haha
They heard theyre just a little too sensitive for the Scottish humour especially the main guy
@@robertb7643 too sensitive to watch a man eat an old crisp?
That wasn’t the ooonly thing that caused consternation for John 🥸 you missed his jokes a few times
The fact they had to start at the used model market to even make this feasible says everything we need to know. On a related note if you live in an area with a vibrant tournament scene you can probably get a used army pretty cheap. In my home town where the tournament scene is everything we would regularly trade armies for very little as the meta changed. I once owned a huge Krieg army I bought for $100.00 USD and a Blood Angels army half the size. I traded that army for Space Wolves, traded them for Cadian Imperial Guard, and finally traded that army for my original army I started playing with many years prior; Dark Angels. No one cared about the price as long as the army stayed in the broader community, with unique exceptions like the Krieg army because of how hard they are to acquire.
This is exactly what I was thinking. I kinda feel the video starts with the wrong question, as it pretty much answers it within 5% of it's run time, the rest just being the process of the challenge (which, don't get me wrong, was fun to watch). I don't have the play group anecdotes to put in, but while I'm willing to concede that you're not going to get a tournament ready army in any tabletop system at the scale of 40k for 100€ (or $ or whatever), you should be able to pull together 1000pts, off the shelf, at 200€ for at least the majority of the armies available, which is very much not the case.
@@Chii1991 $100 dollars not getting you 1000 points is criminally expensive. 40K is insanely priced.
@@Chii1991$100 AUD gets me maybe 1 box of units and a low end character. It’s horrible. Buying online or at some of our third party game shops saves 10-20%, even then it’s costing me approximately $600 for 1000 points depending on the army
I tried ebay..was more than from store lol
Chris' terminators going for £68 is criminal let alone the whole army! I think you should sue JMacc for market manipulation.
I've already reported film to the police. He'll be behind bars by the end of the day
This was so much fun, You need to do this again for AoS or MESBG.
Love that Zorp looks like he's filming in a sauna.
Would love to see this as a series.
Thanks! We'll definately be doing more
@@BattleCamperHome "Trash in! Trash out!" should be a yearly event. Thanks for the video, it was a lot of fun!
Hear hear!
Highly encourage you all to go back and watch the kill team one from about 3 years ago… still some of my favourite warhammer hobby vids ever. Pure fun and joy.
I'm shocked nobody went necrons. They're still super cheap to build. Find an old recruit edition (or old sculpts), sell the space marines, night bringer, command barge (build as two units), Doom scythe/Doomsday ark.
I agree to be honest! I was expecting a whole bunch of them. Maybe I need a better calibre of contestant...
@@BattleCamperHome No no no no. You had a perfect calibre of contestant!
@@BattleCamperHomeTo be fair, some old school Necrons did show up…. In the form of inanimate plastic rod bitz.
Are the old sculpts gw tourney legal?
@@scottyboy6269 typically you’re fine you just need to worry about the base since that changes more often
imagine an old world version of this, that would be interesting
... Don't tempt me
I watched overnight how my box of metal dwarves went from a 5k appraisal to 7k madness
it would work.
@@BattleCamperHome do it, do it, do it, esecially with how pricey it is from gw direct but how available cheap prints and 2nd hand stuff is
@@BattleCamperHome Old world version would be great to watch!
"Whilst air beds and spirits were being deflated" is a great line.... 😂
The Tau didn't look half bad, not surprised they sold for the most. That oil wash worked like magic.
As much as I'm pained to say it. John knows what he's doing
@@BattleCamperHome The 3D printed effects were the deciding factor for the sale.
Yeah if my opponet had a tau army like that i wouldnt first think it was painted in just one day. It looks good especially from distance. Those others need to be looked from 10meters away to look good.
I really enjoy these types of shows, it is fun to see how everyone would tackle this challenge. Living in Australia I think I could get a space marine for $100 XD
And I was so happy that this was made into a 47min video, great work mate.
Thanks so much! Yea, I do feel bad for Aussie hobbyists :/
Great content loved the concept of the buying,painting and then selling to win that quality trophy presented at the end.
This was my introduction to your channel. I absolutely loved this and wish my game group would be open to something like this. Please do this again and frequently!
Thanks so much! There'll definately be more. We had a blast!
This is genuinely some of the most interesting and endearing content on the subject I've seen. Hope you do more stuff like this, very interesting.
This is a great high effort video! Well done on the editing and the organization. This was a great one to stumble on
Thanks so much, really glad you liked it!
This was great! Props to all involved for getting paint on models in that amount of time, I couldn't do half as good a job in the time allowed!
Thanks very much! Neither could I to be honest haha. That's why I gave myself the easy job of sitting on the sidelines making snide remarks
I’m an American. I can’t even get two combat patrols for 100 pounds. Let alone any challenge against 40k being too expensive should be out of games workshops own store. I wonder why that couldn’t happen.
Me and my buddies are dipping out toes into Blood Bowl. Split a starter for $70 each and then $40ish for other teams if we want them.
Different from full 40k but at least semi affordable
Uh... you can't even get one combat patrol for that price. Maybe if you get it on sale.
However, while it is an expensive hobby, I don't think it's as bad as is often claimed. For certain armies you can buy 3 or 4 combat patrols over a year or so and have a full 2000pts. Let's say that's about $500 per year.
PC gaming is easily that expensive, even if you only buy games on sale, when you add in hardware upgrades every few years. Snowboarding/skiing is much more expensive. I've spent $500 in a year easy in MTG, and I'm not even playing spiky formats. Traveling will cost you that much for a single week. Going to the movies with your girlfriend every other weekend is more expensive than that.
Just saying, prices are high for anything. If you spend a lot of time on it and get enjoyment out of it, then I say it's worth it, and so do you, or you wouldn't play.
if buying new thats like one box of models and a single character, if the character is on the cheaper side
You know it's too expensive when buying a resin 3d printer and 3d models and the necessary resin is cheaper.
You can get a decent 3D scanner too. The price varies anywhere between $350-$1700, but once you have one you can create STLs out of models that already exist. See one you like? Scan it. Print it. Enjoy.
honestly i wholeheartedly support people getting into 3d printing if they want and can, its so much cheaper, and you dont have to change an entire armys worth of models because everything they hyped up last month isnt the new hotness
Zorp was either in a sauna or his house was burning down slowly through the judging. Either way I appreciate the commitment
He's a good egg. I hope he survived whatever it was
An army of ultra marines, including the starting set. Is Currently $874 US. Without including time, paint, glue, pins/magnet connectors ect. Thst is an insane barrier to entery.
The moral cowardice of none of the contestants choosing harlequins or thousand sons to paint was disappointing … but otherwise great video!
Haha couldn't agree more. Or an all infantry Guard hoard
This was a fantastic video and really felt relatable to "me and a small group of friends could do this" compared to all larger form 40k videos filmed in a studio with studio lights. This was rad. Thanks for making it and I look forward to seeing what you do in future!
This was a really great concept! Great work! :D
I would love to have seen summaries after each section because it was impossible to follow who had bought what, where they bought them, what they looked like before and after
this was super fun to watch! Earned a sub and I hope to see more content like this in the future!
Thanks very much! It was great fun to make too, definately want to do more
A lot of effort put in to this video, great work mate!
Thanks so much. Huge amount of work but I really enjoyed it
I'm a first time viewer and I really enjoyed this episode. Funny, varied and a bit... top gear- ish? I mean we have four friends solving a challenge with loads of banter and fun. Variety wise, we had modelling painting and even some mini battle reports, which were a pleasant surprise. Oh and there was some amusingly familiar movie soundtracks played on what sounded like a bbc model B music computer program from 1986. I loved it. 😊
do people actually have 1,000 point tournies?
I think one of the bigger challenges in the US is not only do we get everything as an "import" but people default to 2k points to the point that it can be hard to find games below that
First time I've watched one of your videos - I've subscribed for more! I enjoyed the premise, I enjoyed the play by play of each section. I think all of them were completely robbed in terms of prices on ebay, even the Tau to a degree!
Looking forward to exploring your content!
Loved this format. Great vid.
Thanks was fun watching. Bloody John lol
Glad you liked it. Thank you!
Never played this game, never bought a mini, I know very little about the universe of the 40k, and all that to say I had a great time watching this video! Such a fun looking time all around.
This was awesome to watch. I would love to have hobby days like this again with mates. Thank you for sharing, mate!
You're very welcome, thanks so much for watching. Hope you get to have one soon.
@@BattleCamperHome trying to organise something now with a close friend. Either a painting session or some games of 40K KT.
My strategy for this challenge would be getting the necron Ctan shard models since they're like 280pts each and can be printed quite cheap due to their size. Even buying them officially they are only like 35$.
That's a good shout! There was a 15 midweek minimum so maybe one block of warriors?
I don't really know why you subtracted the 100 points for the 100 dollars they spent, 41 points for the orks VP and 95 for the eldars paint job (with the last one being especially out of left field), because otherwise everyone would have at least positive points and in relation to each other it didn't make any difference. Maybe divide by the amount of challenges in the end to get an average after also awarding 100 points for getting to 1000 points.
To be honest, I just thought it was funny that they all got trash scores!
@@BattleCamperHome So how much did you spend on models and paints for that Eldar army? Gotta remember to subtract points for how much you go over the 100 pound budget.
Very entertaining video this - I do feel bad for all the loss made on the armies, they didn’t deserve such poor bids! But I guess shows we can get armies for way less than £100!
Yea, I felt bad tbh, they deserved some prize money. But it does show what you can do if you get lucky I guess!
Well done, John! Commitment, talent, hard work and a laissez-faire approach to the competition rules will always carry you through. Huzzah!
He shows that grifting pays dividends
This was very fun… your ‘weekender hobby challenge’ vids are some of my favourite. I’ll never forget ‘make products’ 😂
Loved this. This is peak 40K content and I wish I could do this sort of thing
Thank you, that's very kind. It was a lot of fun!
I really enjoyed this! Def earned a sub and hope u make more in the future. Great work honestly.
Thanks very much I really appreciate it. There'll definately be more!
This feels like an old school top gear challenge with 40k :) I love it
I am super grateful to have stumbled across this video/channel!
Forgot how cool the I thought the Tau looked and am going to pick up a battlebox at Christmas!
Loving all your LOTR content btw!
Just a bunch of lads cracking on like proper gamers. Well done boys
Thank you! It was so much fun :)
The painting on the Eldar army was so hot, it created a small housefire at the other side of the world😂.
Cool video!
I think the only way of making this challenge work with no second-hand miniatures is the custodes combat patrol. You can get it for ~85 pounds and with enhancements it's a 1k list that is actually "playable" in 10e
Yea, good thinking. I was supposed no one did this!
Great idea and very well executed! Lots of effort clearly went into this and it was fun to watch - thanks and look forward to the next one!
Thank you! We had a blast making it. Can't wait to do more
So much effort that has gone into this, what a well produced video for such a "small" channel. Amazing video for fans of the hobby, keep it up my man!
Battletech: Grab 2 lance boxes for $50 each. You now have Both player's armies
Pay $250 and you pretty much have all the mechs you'd ever want.
Though plastic quality is alway a pain so i'd rather have companies just license STLs of their mini's.
I'd rather have decent looking minis
John would have actually eaten that crisp as well.
This looks like a lot of fun and the gaming has made me glance longingly at the grey eldar waiting to get painted!
They're a beautiful army to be sure! A good time too with the Codex and more Aspects coming next year
John has done us in Glasgow proud with that true sportsman ship would expect nothing less
This was bloody brilliant. Well done!
Thanks very much! Glad you liked it!
Brilliant concept for a video and great execution, really hope to see more like this!
Thank you! There will definately be more
JMacc: Lesson learned. Don't travel unprepared to the tropical hellhole of the Home Counties.
I love that this basically shows, no, you cant build one for this amount of money. Whether through 3D printing or having existing supplies, each one needed more than just having £100 to buy the models. And its also a limited experience because the only feasible way of getting any sort of army was to buy used, and not used well but well used. So no building, which limits any of your own input to just painting or bringing in outside scultping/3DP'd material. But again, that adds to the cost.
Buying paints, brushes, and tools can set you back that much. Even when you buy all of the non paint supplies off of Temu. So for someone looking to get started, easily double that number to do your own used army. Quintuple or... 15-uple if you want to do your army new.
Oh this is fun! Glad I found your channel.
I'm guessing the green bars were sighting lasers?
I think so. for some reason they really tickled me
I can already smell that wargamer funk in the room
We filmed it four months ago and its still not fully gone 😅
I kinda want to do something similar with a bunch of friends. This is awesome.
Than you :) It was so much fun, I highly recommend it!
Glad nobody was boring enough to just get a custodes combat patrol and culexus assassin. Fun vid.
Now do the same with a historical game, such as bolt action
32:50 why does this song sound so familiar
This was an amazing idea for a video and was so entertaining to watch dude, awesome work
Thank you!! Really glad you enjoyed it
Great video concept brother!
Thanks so much mate! Really appreciate it
This is just absolutely brilliant. Was hooked from start to finish! A great idea!
Thank you! Much appreciated. Really glad you enjoyed
@BattleCamper just discovered you channel from this video. Very much enjoyed it and went on to watch several others.
Great work! If you are ever in Manchester please hit me up. I plan on restarting my channel next year now the kids older!
Need more channela like yours, realistic wargaming perspective!
Thanks very much!! I'll certainly let you know. I hope you're able to get back out the channel. Can't imagine how difficult that is to balance with kids
Great video. Enjoyed it a lot. Having said that all I learned from it was that marine armies don't bring in the money on ebay like tau lol
Haha. Thank you. Yes, not a good lesson, but a lesson nonetheless :)
surprised you dont have more subs, this is a really good video man
Thanks very much. This is my first to take off so maybe there'll be more?
Would love this as an annual tradition! Delightful stuff.
What a great video, first time coming across this channel. Subscribed!
Thank you very much! Really glad you enjoyed it :)
Mixed thoughts, on one hand, definitely a train wreck and some pretty sorry models collected together. Obviously it's a struggle if its 400 out of your pocket to finance this adventure, but the general premise I like. Maybe the budget is too small. I do like the challenge idea of here's your budget, go get a thousand points of an army and get it table ready, but perhaps these restrictions were too restrictive. As much as I really need to build and paint my own pile of shame, I did struggle falling asleep last night considering how I would tackle the task, what army, etc. I will be checking back periodically to see if you do another challenge like this, whether with the same group of guys or a different foursome.
I really don't think Warhammer is too expensive. As far as a hobby goes it's probably quite average. within the tabletop wargames space it's on the higher end, but it's also wholly produced and manufactured in England to an incredibly high standard, at least to me that is very important. I know Bolt gun is also made in England and as far as I understand it's pretty similarly priced, yes you can get third party minis for less, but then they are made by little chinese kids, personally I am not so into that. Within the same hobby space warhammer is straight up cheap. Boardgames are extremely expensive and most board game groups constantly buy and play new games at almost every meeting. Your average trading card game deck for Pokemon, Magic or yu-gi-oh will set you back in the thousands of dollars, and those cards will only last you until they are taken out of rotation.
If we move outside of tabletop games completely and look at other popular hobbies like fishing, photography, golf, airsoft, paintball, skiing, surfing, motorcycles, cars, parachuting etc. Then it is abundantly clear that the amount of fun time we get out of a single 50 dollar kit is leagues ahead of how far 50 bucks gets you in many other hobbies.
the stink in that room after 4 neckbeards spent the night was probably insane.
You can't imagine
What a fun video! Bravo to you and the lads.
I hope you manage to recoup some of that money from the video at least hahah! Brilliant, gotta love the half naked scotsman being completely lore accurate aswell. Something to take away from this, this is 100% what wargaming is all about. Getting together with a bunch of mates crashing on the settee, airbeds or topping and tailing, munching some pizza and having a fucking fun time watching a shit film. 10/10 having the best time. Thankyou for the content
"here's £100 don't exceed that for your army"
"You also have points and 3D printing to do the thing. "
Why not invest in 3D printed miniatures for like... £26-50 instead?
Well, I didn't actually anticipate John 3D printing so may have stopped him haha. It's more a bit of fun than a serious test.
Protip - you bbq over red hot coals, not flames.
Try telling that to John!
Love this idea, very entertaining. Can the next one be MESBG with the same budget? It would be fun to see what players could source.
I have zero interest in 40k but gladly watched this video because of the concept. I think this would be great for MESBG as well. Happy for you that this video has smashed your record views total. Hope the Algorithm helps spread your channel to a wider audience.
Thanks so much! I would love to do an MESBG one in the future! All praise the algorithm...
Nice of ya to get your content partner and kids in a family friendly video!
Great idea and theme for a vid, definitely could do AOS, MESBG with the same format!
Fun challenge. Could be fun to do with some friends, just with Kings of war armies
100% chance John found the auction listings and bid up own army up.
A lot of people commenting as if buying second hand is illegitimate. Sure you can get some rough results, there's nothing wrong with using that as your way into the hobby.
Especially if you're not being as cheap, up the amount a bit and you can get some nicer stuff.
I have a 2k Chaos army out of an off the shelf world eaters combat patrol, plus some extra units bought cheap off people, some loose bits for conversion, and an extra box of legionaries and a box of terminators.
Whole army cost under 200 pounds, and if I finished painting it looks, in my opinion, great. Not like something that crawled out of a bin.
For a new player, I would suggest buying a Killteam or a combat patrol, and getting into a club in your area playing that. Expand out slowly from there, having a community of people who play the game that you know will make it very easy to get models for cheap. Almost every warhammer player has a lot of bits they have no issue parting with some of for free, and even models they may be happy to give away.
Never played anything Warhammer or had much interest in it but after watching this I'm keen to learn. This is a great video keep it up
that ultramarine banner im dying xD also a little sad that Grahm didnt get any + points for the base work, he had the best bases out of all xD
Amazing video, loved this.... can't believe J Macc won but his wash on white scheme was simply amazing. Then added in with those colourful 3D prints just made it so nice. good video. can;t wait for next years competition.
This video is amazing, John is amazing, this is the greatest good!!!
Thanks so much! John is a gem :)
When it was announced that John bid on his minis, I actually cackled, that was so funny lol.
Gotta love him for the audacity.
i gotta say. WHAT AN INTRO.
Hayden's Standard bearer is quiet rare, it was from the SKULLZ promotion in the 90's some people pay silly money for him.
Great episode. I love these kinds of challenges
Thank you! I didn't know that about the Standard Bearer. And look what we did to him 😬
BRO! 9:14 THAT DUDE'S GOT THE GOD DAMN MASTER SWORD
This was such a fun video to watch. Great premise.
We neeedddd more tournaments/battle reportsss
The InnBetweeners - Nerd version. Well done. Very entertaining - thumbs up :)
I recently picked up a new on sprue Necron annihilation barge for 0.99 + 4 ship as an imperium magazine from eBay. So I’d say buying a bunch of the imperium magazines from eBay would’ve probably yielded better value for money. This was an interesting watch though
As someone who knows nothing about 40k. This video was 40% gibberish to me. But 100% gold 😂
2 bottles of resin and 50 bottles of beer, and still have change for some salt and vin crisps
😂
This is a really cool idea, I want to try this with friends now lmao
I really have to say this could be a great series very interesting take on the hobby but I would love to see the points limits drop a bit to maybe 750p for an army or change the edition because in older edition there is more room for conversions and also you need less miniatures).
But great work overall
We need a whole serie !
I did have a go at "buying "a £100 army and found the khorne Daemon combat patrol for £85 at Element Games and a Skullmaster for 15.99 on ebay. Okay that was a 5 minute non- effort and I was 99p + P&P over but I reckon its probably close to 1000pts and its a very competitive combat patrol.
Walked (practically ran) away from GW over a year ago. Combination of the crazy prices and the FOMO marketing strategy. Fortunately my interest lies with building and painting, not gaming. So now get figures from Mantic, Wargames Atlantic as well as the Stargrave range. When you can get 20 to 24 figures for a little over £20.00 then its a no brainer.
I could field 96 "ooh Rah" Marines for £100.00, 80 Mantic GCPS troopers for £100.00 or 100 Stargrave Troopers for £90.00. Compared to 10 new Intercessors and 5 new Heavy intercesors (ie 15 GW figures) for a shade under £90.
9:06 is an old techmarine, missing its arm backpack. It’s early, 2nd-4th edition.