You are right. I didn't know the Daiwa SALTIST BACK BAY (not for the EU market) which he keeps calling it BG. It took me a while to find it and see the specs.
I just came across your channel and I have got to say that I really like it. Its nice to see someone who has some intelligence and some humor. Sometimes you get one but not the other. You're able to pass on information and still keep it entertaining. Keep up the good work.
I got the Daiwa Back Bay LT 4000 a few weeks ago. Love the reel! Buttery smooth. I've slayed three big Redfish on it already and no flexing or hiccups battling the fish. I was wanting the Stradic FL but can't find one in stock. So went with this. Very happy with it and would highly recommend.
I agree with Ricardo's comment about having the name of the reel on the table so the viewer can follow better. On reels, for some time I've had a Shimano Stradic 3000 FI that has served me well. Only issue is it gets sand in the bail wire pivots and then it gets "grindy" until I take it apart and don't lose any of the miniscule parts, LOL.
I settled on getting the new C2000S and 2500SHG Stradics based on your reviews and am very glad I did. I can't wait for the new Ci4+ versions to come out.
I have both FL and back bay but I take the back bay out more than the FL just love the smoothness on it. If I need to recommend one to someone, I will the FL.
Been watching you for years !! Love how you call a reel P.O.S if it aint good !! Some of your pull downs has actually made my mind up buying a certain branded reel !! Keep it coming, great Content. Cheers from Down Under !!
I used a Pflueger President in the salt literally reeling it under water while being hit by waves. I chose that cuz i didn’t want my nice reels to get ruined. That president still works like a champ
Those are literally one of the best deals for the price for someone just casually fishing wanting a decent spinner. Lol I still use my old Shimano Spirex that I got from my grandfather, purely because the older one feels a bit more solid than the newer models, and I absolutely love the quick fire trigger.
Two spin fisher vi 4500’s and a 2500, BG 4000 and 2500. One nasci 3000 and a fathom 15 conventional. Plus a couple of Lews baitcasters for good measure!
Just bought an FL 2500 the other week based on your glowing reviews! I can say I'm very happy with it's performance hunting bream and flatties with 6lb J braid grand in Aus. Great video!
Darcy yea I’m getting a 1000 size STRADIC FL and also going to spool it with 6lb j braid for bream and flathead . Should be good looking forward to getting it
We own three stradic fl spinning reels. Two 2500 and one 10 00. Great reels. Couldn’t recommend enough for the price. Bought the first one on your recommendation and the others followed quickly. Thanks for the work you put in your channel. BFG
I have been looking forward to this updated review of spinning reels in this price range on your channel ever since I discovered your channel 6 months ago. Thank you for your thorough, in-depth review--excellent as always! I certainly appreciate the time and effort you put into your reviews.
Regarding the Spinfisher VI, I've found that some parts are interchangeable with the slammer III. Those being the main gear, spools, rotors, main shafts, and traverse blocks and oscillation gears. Not really beneficial unless you look at the smaller spinfishers
All of my mid-covid Penn spinners have died immediately, I wouldn't bother with them right now. Shimanos have been a lot more durable mid "pandemic" than anything else except for the flagship okumas
Good stuff here. I picked up one of those Stradic FLs last spring after seeing one of your videos and its the smoothest spinning reel right out of the box from any manufacturer I have ever used and still is after a season of use in freshwater. My only complaint is the weight, due to the fact I have been mostly using the CI4+ and Fuego LTs for a while now. If the next gen CI4+ is anything like it, It will likely replace all my spinning reels. Thanks for the work you put in making these vids.
Love your videos. very detailed breakdown of all brands of reels. I am a big Shimano fan and love the Stradics. What really swings me to Shimano besides the great quality of the reels, is the service. I find that Shimano has by far the best service of any reel manufacture.
And verdict is shimano FL 3000c. Will order it in a next few days. Love Penn, Daiwa to. For me, part of fishing is maintenance of gear, and with maglube, magoil or whatever is name, Daiwa coused troubles.
i have a stradic FL , Ballistic LT , Slammer 3 and spinfisher VI as my main reels .I can 100 % confirm that Nick's reviews are legit.Everything he says is 100% true. My favourite ? - its a split decision between the Ballistic and the FL ... just like Nick pointed out in this video.
At this point ... I'm an Okuma fan ... when they wear out, or break, I'll consider something else. A few older Daiwa's are also still used ... ( even a 50's Mitchel 300, which cost about $25 new. )
Been looking a bit at the liveliner Spinfisher as an option for fishing the kelp on day trips on the west coast. Mostly this would mean calico bass and fish similar sized. But, on these trips you can also run into yellowtails and bonito and the like. I'm split here on what size of reel would work better for this application- the 4500 or 6500. I'd be using it on a roughly 20-30 pound class rod. This would be my first Penn, used to mainly Shimano sizing- in the past a 4000 size Shimano worked fine for the calicos, was a little undergunned on small yellowtail.
A fish took my daiwa bg 2500 in the water and I luckily got it back. The reel was completely submerged in saltwater for 4 or 5 seconds and 1 week later it’s still smooth and has no damage internally I think.
@@enrikomulawarman7617 disagree. Large spinning reels allow me to toss large live baits with one hand, great for finesse casting and are way easier and compact still than a conventional reel. I use a Van Staal 250 vsb spinning reel which is strong as hell and yet I can cast it with one hand under hand or even over hand.
Have you ever heard of Florida Fishing Products? Based out of Tampa. Have you ever looked into their reels? If so, what were your thoughts? If not, I'd love to see you do a breakdown on their Osprey and hear your thoughts on there product. Great work as always!
He talks about them in the video. They are OEM reels made in china. You can buy the same exact reel (different color) straight from china for 60-80 bucks.
I've fished with almost all of the reels in the video and it's no surprise that Scoob/tackle advisor hits the nail on the head. The Stradic FK & FL are my favorite with the Ballistic LT coming in a pretty close 2nd.
We used a Shimano Soccoro 5000 SW which I found on sale on sale for just $67 bucks. It was in the surf for a year and it held up to striped bass up to 21 lbs, halibut to 14 lbs, A 27 lb white sea-bass, a 38 lb black sea-bass and a large number of snags on a reef we fish from shore. . The drag is no velvet smooth, the bail closes on casting from time to time, plus it has a few other deals but for $67 bucks hard to complain about the price. The full 139.00 asking price, then we might have a problem.. It was not a complete piece of crap, it caught some big fish and it still works with signs of some wear. We Upgraded to Penn Slammer III 5500's at 189.99 and these even had the upgraded heavier bail system vs the first generation of Penn slammer III and at no additional cost . 18 hard fished surf months later the two Penn Slammer III slammers bought have been everything promised . Only thing with Penn is that the reels are stiff the first week due to the grease packed but once worked in over 2 trips the reels stiffness disappears. I fish for big surf species and these reels have got soaked / fully emerged by waves with no problems. there obviously a much different need that that of a angler who needs light weight for many repetitive casts where every ounce saves your arm and shoulder grieve. but for Drag power, a 5500 having 40 lbs worth, Dependability and easy maintenance wise the Penn Slammer III has done very well.
Thanks for being very informative. The fact that Penn sometimes have their reels sale almost 50% its price messed up everything. A slammer 3 4500 for $145 was no brainer.
Would a 4000 black bay be good enough for surf fishing and for occasional halibut, rays, and leopard sharks? Or would it be better to get a 5000 Stradic fl with increased drag and line capacity? The Ballistic sounds really nice too but I care more about a metal frame and the smoothness than it being light.
I just added a Stradic 2500 HG FL to my fishing arsenal...Got several older Stradic FI reels that have held up well inshore kayak fishing in the Southern Maryland area of the Chesapeake Bay. 95% of my fishing is light spinning 1/8- 3/8 Oz lures and most fish I target are specked trout, white perch, striped bass, redfish and spanish mackerel. Reels have 10-12# braid...use 20# Trielene XT mono for leaders tied on with FG knot. For quick disconnects I use the Fastach clip by Mustad.
Just ordered the Abu garcia revo premier for $150.... hopefully it’s worth it. Taking a gamble considering I see a lot of complaints. People either love it or hate it. I’ll just be freshwater fishing for largemouth with it. This is also the only review I could find for it....
Just before the new model Penn spin Fisher VI was released I went to bass pro and got the spin Fisher V 6500 for $ 60...bought 2 of them, better deal I could get.
I have owned a few back bays and have tried several $200-$300 JDM Daiwa LT reels and always went back to the back bays! I originally had bought a back Bay because your video talk me into it! LOL
Great video. Now i dont know about the new ones, but i have 2 okuma cedros reels (the ones with the blue handles that are discontinued) and they are better than all of these reels in everyway except at freespinning. They are sealed pretty tight so they feel a little stiff, but they are butter smooth and the power they have compares more to a saragosa or penm slammer, im so upset they dont sell them anymore but if you guys come accross these okumas on ebay or something, dont hesitate to buy them. The new ones (they are black) i dont know about so i cant speak for those, ill get one for sure though and see if they are as good. Edit. Forgot to say they run for about $130-$200 depending on the size
Penn & Akios are my go-to spinners for salt. The Fin- nor Ahab was a monster reel when it was in production & should come back exactly the way they were
Got a spheros 4000sw a few weeks ago. Can’t wait to fish it. Seeing Elias catching big reds with it,can’t wait to land some strippers. Bought the reel after your review Thanks much!
Great video dude; very informative as always. Was thinking about getting a Spheros SW 4000 for some light beach fishing. Also liked your point about Daiwa's oversaturation of spinning reels, and I can't help but think that their baitcaster selection is getting a kinda big as well.
Yes, that Alan Hawk article was something; now since the BG has morphed over time, I wish Daiwa would upgrade the SS Whisker Tournament series, in the same design, but using their current top components! :)
He misses a lot like the too light main shaft (many bent reported) and that the pinion assembly is wide open to saltwater. Penn Battle III might not quite have the cranking power, but has better gearing and vastly better protection from saltwater.
After 30 years still the Mitchell 498 spinreel for Seafishing still smooth working like mine Fl 5000 xg and BG mag, guess the last two reels dont last that long.
Honestly, though I've tried and liked the Stradic, that extra 15% weight kills my wrist (since my arm was previously injured). My opinion is that the Tatula LT is the best under $200. First, it's actually one that i could buy for under $200 and with tax, which is actually is a $200 budget, not $200+. Second, it's lightweight. Though I had the ganglion cyst removed, my arm isn't able to hold up as it used to. Third and lastly, man I like that 6:2:1 gear ratio. I fished my wife's older Shimano Sahara 2500 and I fell in love with that specific retrieve ratio. Just my two cents. Would really appreciate it to see what you think of my situation.
How does the Okuma Helios compare? That’s the only one missing. My experience with Okuma is that they last very well. Great job on the video, I love watching your videos because I learn something every time.
I seriously went all out on the Abu Garcia spinning reels- the Premier and even the MGX reel. After just two years- I hated them. The bail was flipping while casting, the reverse was kicking in while I was fighting a fish, and even worse- the rigidity was falling apart. It did not last- the quality was not there. Now I will admit- they took all three reels in and replaced them with brand new ones without giving me a hard time at all. I sold all three of them and then turned to Shimano reels. Now I'm a Daiwa man!
Tackle Advisors the one on tacklewarehouse does as well? is there a difference between the 350 dollar JDM and the 229 dollar US model? cuz the 350 dollar one is on clearance for 229
I have a Daiwa Ballistic LT 3000 on a 10' Savage gear Salmonoid 15-35g gramm rod that i use for smaller lures (10-30 gramm) when coastel or pier fishing and that is sooo smooth (the reel price is 300,-us$ here in Denmark). I also just got a (brand new old stock) Penn Slammer 460 on a 9' Savage Gear Salt 1DFR shore jigging 40-80 gramm rod (and that reel is only 100,-us$ new on sale). I use it for bigger lures (30-80 gramm) That Penn is a tank and i have no worries getting saltwater on it when boat fishing.
Have you ever done a video on how to clean your reel and rod after a saltwater fishing trip. I see so many videos online and never know which one to trust since they all seem to be different. Any advice on how to do it and what products to use? I’m most concerned about the reel cleansing as washing the rod seems very straight forward. Thanks again for any expert advice you can give a newbie
The way I do it is: 1. Tighten your drag all the way down to reduce how much water gets in. 2. Use light pressure water to rinse everything, don't put too much water on the actual reel body. *Warm water takes off more salt.* Don't be afraid to use extra pressure on the actual rod guides and your lures 3. Let it all dry off. I like to put a fan in front of everything to help it dry faster. Loosen your reel's drag all the way, otherwise you're compressing the drag washers which is bad. Optionally you can get a product called salt-away that helps salt come off. Salt corrodes by keeping water at the metal surface for a longer period of time on a microscopic level.
Btw I apply some oil to the line roller bearing on some regular cadence, maybe once a month. Adjust based on how much you fish. One more thing I do only applies if you have multi-piece rods (e.g 2 piece rod). I get a small block of paraffin wax and rub it on the rod ferrule (where the rod pieces connect, the piece that sticks into the hollow end of the rod). This simultaneously lubricates and also tightens the connection between the rod pieces next time you put it together. I do this whenever i remember to, which is about every other trip. Ideally I think every trip would be good. You can get a huge block of paraffin wax from amazon for like $10-15.
FINALLY got an FL! Got one today here in Tampa. I'm pretty sure i got the last one available here in Florida haha. Can't find them anywhere at the moment. No where online or any store I've been to until today! Got the 4K and it's buttery smooth. However, my Daiwa Saltist Back Bay 4K is slightly smoother. I've dunked my my Back Bay multiple times now in the kayak inshore and it's still like new. Will see how this Stradic holds up to the saltwater over time. Tight lines and as always enjoy your videos.
I know you get bombarded with questions but obviously your knowledge and advice is highly sorted. Which would be your pick bass fishing size range of 2500-3000 Lews custom pro speed spool $130 Vanford $230 Ballistic LT $230 Tatula LT$200 Thank you
I actually bought a Daiwa Kage lt which is $200 retail got it for 168 basically a tatula with more bearings and more attractive look love to see your thoughts on that reel soon
It's exactly that... Daiwa tried offering a reel not to be sold on the internet.. To select dealers... I forwarded 3 online postings to the rep a week after it hit shelves.... Stupid decision by Daiwa to do that and not enforce it.... Very good reel overall
I sold my wife's Premier 30, my STX20 would spin backwards during very cold weather or popping line to free a snag, not always, but at bothering times. I figured it was time to get her/us another Shimano/Daiwa for our all purpose spinning setup. Now Stradic FL's are sold out EVERYWHERE so I might have to find a deal on a Twin Power or Certate...
Same thing actually happened to my tatula lt. Winter day ( around 35F) clearing a snag and it spinned backwards. Im guessing anti reverse clutch failed? I do have new FL and am super happy about it.
Could be more precise and mark reels with names, because at some point weare missing which model you talking about... At the end would be great if you could give a clear summary which is in you idea has a greatest value for money! Thanks for another great video!
Are you going to review the penn torque 2 series or even compare them to the high end reels in the fishing community. I’ve been debating on getting one and I know you do a great job when it comes to reel breakdowns.
but what size?TORQUE is good for topwater!!(advantage over makaira20k is that it weighs less). But only fast retrieve and $750...not so soft others, saltiga&stella. I would go for half price slammer or already a CATALINA (if I need for jigging and 80lb braid I go with spheros 20k)....some people don't want MAGSEALED!, before twin power would go to stella 2nd hand.
What about the Penn Slammer, does it hold up to the Stradic FL and Back Bay for saltwater inshore fishing? (The smaller size penn slammers, 3500, 4500)
Penn Slammers are HEAVY AS FUCK, compare it to the same Daiwa Ballistic 4000, its literally half the weight. and 4 lbs of torque less, but after a long day of fishing i rather use my Ballistic than my Slammer3
@@NFiltr8RedHey I dont blame you. I own a slammer 4500 and a couple of shimano and daiwa LT reels around 4000 size and I do agree with you. The weight is important, especially if your casting. I mainly use the light reels for shore fishing. However I tend to use the slammer for slow jigging stationary from a boat so the weight dont really feel that bad for that use. I guess I really only wanted to know how he felt about the Slammer...cause I feel like its robust.
RikkiVideos , the Slammer doesn’t feel like it’s gonna break easily. You can toss it around on boats and in the rocks and it’s gonna stand up to punishment from the elements. I have a Stella FJ 3000 and Exist 3000, both are my lake and river reels, both have brought in 30-40 lb Salmon with ease, but as stated before. My wrist doesn’t hate me at the end of the day.
My go to spinning reels are Shimano and Daiwa. If I want to get a reel under $100 I usually go Okuma. I seem to prefer Daiwa’s high end spinning reels. The spinning reels I’ve had the worst experience with are Mitchell Avocet ones.
Sungsoo Lee it’s definately good. I just love the durability Okuma offers. The Okuma Ceymar for an example has a machined, well engineered main gear and its proven to be really durable.
i have one heavy spinning reel for fresh water its a bg... but im not using for finesse im using it for catfish and stripers... other than that i agree with you on casting and reeling lures definitely like a lighter reel
Sorry for being so honest 😁 okuma azores 55s, abu garcia elit max 60, tsunami shield 5000, which to buy and why, or which fishing reel besides these previous reels do you recommend ?, hello I'm from Mexico, I have a wife, two children, I'm paying for a house , in my work I earn 10,000 pesos a month, it's like 500 dollars in the United States, please help me decide which fishing reel to buy because I practice shore fishing and I want a fishing reel that can hold me for at least two years or more, because buying a reel greater than 150 dollars is very difficult for me to buy, that is why it is difficult for me to decide which of those fishing reels to buy, please save me, thank you for your time and your help, I hope you can help me because I love , shore fishing, and I don't want to be just a spectator for not being able to buy the right fishing reel
If I was in a similar situation, I would save money until I could afford a reel that is truly sealed against sand and water. Then, for your investment it may last the rest of your life, and maybe well into your children's lives. Quality does matter as long as you are paying for quality and not just bragging rights.
Solid channel, good info! Currently own three Stradic Fls...easily the best spinning reel I have owned to date. They are much smoother than the six CI4s I did own but have since sold. Occasionally had some bearing problems with my CI4s. Waiting on the latest version of the CI4 which I am told will be released in August 2020. I was also told the new version of the CI4 will be renamed...no longer will be named the “CI4.” I am waiting to see if the new version of the current CI4 will incorporate all the features of the current Stradic FL. If so, game over.
Have you ever tore apart and reviewed Piscifun Carbon X2000 or 3000? 11 bearings, 6.2:1, 22 lb's of drag, smooth and rock solid no flex. But not sealed. Just bought one for $62. Seems like a great buy.
Thanks so much for all of the awesome videos. Looking to get a spinning reel to pair with a ML or M jerkbait rod for bass and big brown trout. For those applications, I was thinking a light compact 3000 spinning reel would be good. Since its freshwater, I was thinking the Tatula LT TALT3000-CXH would be good. Is it really worth getting the stradic at 1.6 oz heavier since you speak so highly of it? Will the Ci4 be expected soon? Thanks again!
I’ve been very happy with my Mitchell 300s from Walmart. At 45 dollars they are cheap,but they are reliable and fairly smooth. I use them for catfish; I’ve yet to break one,even though they are undersized.
Great information as usual. It looks like Shimano has come out with the Stradic ci-4 ++ that you've been hoping for, they're calling it the Vanford. My brother in law is looking at one, do you have any initial thoughts? Will there be a review coming? Thanks
Feeling nothing when spinning the handle or feeling a bit of mechanism meshing when under load has nothing to do with general durability or bullet proofness if hooking a monster. We need to know what performs year after year with routine maintenance and tons of use.
I’m still wondering if the vanford or the stradic FL which one is a better buy. Looking in the 3000 range. I can’t seems to find this daiwa BG all black as you have. Been looking forward with the “quantum smoke pt inshore” too! This is going to be my next upgrade, from a Penn Fierce III
Why does Daiwa put an anti-reverse switch on saltwater reels? Having ruined a BG3500 because of saltwater intrusion through that switch location, I'm very leery of the Saltist, Back Bay, Ballistic etc.... Does Daiwa seal that location on the higher end reels than the BG?
Getting into saltwater inshore/beach fishing mainly paddle tails spoons, etc and wanted to get my first saltwater setup that would I would be able to do multiple techniques and was wondering what rod and reel combo you would you recommend in the $150-200 total range. Thanks for the help
I noticed you said majority of daiwa reels are very similar. I noticed that in their descriptions as well. I was looking at the daiwa phantom but watching this video made me want the back bay now. What are your thoughts on the phantom?
I recommend adding the reels' names on the table, sometimes it is hard to follow when you jump around reels ans point at them.
You are right. I didn't know the Daiwa SALTIST BACK BAY (not for the EU market) which he keeps calling it BG. It took me a while to find it and see the specs.
You should know your reels there like baseball cards to most of us
I found the Shimano Stradic to be one of the best reels I have ever used.
Even compared to the higher end reels such as Stella,Vanquish,Exsence?
Or saragosa??
I just came across your channel and I have got to say that I really like it. Its nice to see someone who has some intelligence and some humor. Sometimes you get one but not the other. You're able to pass on information and still keep it entertaining.
Keep up the good work.
I come here cause he’s the most honest about reels and this guy doesn’t bs.
Facts, always watch this man before buying another reel.
I got the Daiwa Back Bay LT 4000 a few weeks ago. Love the reel! Buttery smooth. I've slayed three big Redfish on it already and no flexing or hiccups battling the fish. I was wanting the Stradic FL but can't find one in stock. So went with this. Very happy with it and would highly recommend.
I agree with Ricardo's comment about having the name of the reel on the table so the viewer can follow better. On reels, for some time I've had a Shimano Stradic 3000 FI that has served me well. Only issue is it gets sand in the bail wire pivots and then it gets "grindy" until I take it apart and don't lose any of the miniscule parts, LOL.
I settled on getting the new C2000S and 2500SHG Stradics based on your reviews and am very glad I did. I can't wait for the new Ci4+ versions to come out.
Stradic FL hands down the greatest bang for your buck reel ever made.
I have both FL and back bay but I take the back bay out more than the FL just love the smoothness on it. If I need to recommend one to someone, I will the FL.
Sungsoo Lee why the fl over the back bay? If you use back bay more
No the bg is
@@coopermaio1590 i agree bg...no reason yo buy any other reel
circusmime except he stated things that the bg lacks. you could get a slammer on sale for $150, which by far is better than the bg
This guy needs to come back. Tackle advisor has some of the best videos when it comes to fishing reels
Been watching you for years !!
Love how you call a reel P.O.S if it aint good !!
Some of your pull downs has actually made my mind up buying a certain branded reel !!
Keep it coming, great Content.
Cheers from Down Under !!
I used a Pflueger President in the salt literally reeling it under water while being hit by waves. I chose that cuz i didn’t want my nice reels to get ruined. That president still works like a champ
Those are literally one of the best deals for the price for someone just casually fishing wanting a decent spinner. Lol I still use my old Shimano Spirex that I got from my grandfather, purely because the older one feels a bit more solid than the newer models, and I absolutely love the quick fire trigger.
AndrewLetit FlowWolf I’ve dunked mine like 3 times for several seconds and somehow still works completely fine and no signs of water stuck/damage
Two spin fisher vi 4500’s and a 2500, BG 4000 and 2500. One nasci 3000 and a fathom 15 conventional. Plus a couple of Lews baitcasters for good measure!
Just bought an FL 2500 the other week based on your glowing reviews! I can say I'm very happy with it's performance hunting bream and flatties with 6lb J braid grand in Aus. Great video!
Darcy yea I’m getting a 1000 size STRADIC FL and also going to spool it with 6lb j braid for bream and flathead . Should be good looking forward to getting it
Haha Perth here. Got the Back bay shipped from US. Veeeeeeery happy.
Isn’t the black bay for bigger fish though
Breaming with Bro it smaller than you think. Though heavy due to full metal body.
Sungsoo Lee yea thought so looks like a good reel for Jewfish and snapper
I always come to this channel before buying another reel.
Me too
I always want to buy another reel after coming to this channel.
@LongLiveFishing me too, I am thinking about buying the Ballistic X Lt
We own three stradic fl spinning reels. Two 2500 and one 10
00. Great reels. Couldn’t recommend enough for the price. Bought the first one on your recommendation and the others followed quickly. Thanks for the work you put in your channel. BFG
Bank Fishing Guys yeah we own 4 Stradic FL and we love them! We have a 3000,2 2500 and a 1000 and they are super great!
I have been looking forward to this updated review of spinning reels in this price range on your channel ever since I discovered your channel 6 months ago. Thank you for your thorough, in-depth review--excellent as always! I certainly appreciate the time and effort you put into your reviews.
Regarding the Spinfisher VI, I've found that some parts are interchangeable with the slammer III. Those being the main gear, spools, rotors, main shafts, and traverse blocks and oscillation gears. Not really beneficial unless you look at the smaller spinfishers
All true but the Slammer III series have a beast drag...A Slammer III 4500 has 30lbs of drag! Both good, solid reels...
can i put a slammer dx spool on a spinfisher with a slammer highspeed handle?
No, the slammer IV spool has a different hub design and won't fit.
All of my mid-covid Penn spinners have died immediately, I wouldn't bother with them right now. Shimanos have been a lot more durable mid "pandemic" than anything else except for the flagship okumas
@@the1stvendetta i just thought it would be cool to have a slamfisher dx lol
I own a spin fisher. Like it for my 9’ striper set up. Handles some big fish. Even landed some cows in the cape cod canal with it on my 10’ rod.
What size is it?
It’s a 6500 I spool it with 50 lb braid
Good stuff here. I picked up one of those Stradic FLs last spring after seeing one of your videos and its the smoothest spinning reel right out of the box from any manufacturer I have ever used and still is after a season of use in freshwater. My only complaint is the weight, due to the fact I have been mostly using the CI4+ and Fuego LTs for a while now. If the next gen CI4+ is anything like it, It will likely replace all my spinning reels. Thanks for the work you put in making these vids.
Love your videos. very detailed breakdown of all brands of reels. I am a big Shimano fan and love the Stradics. What really swings me to Shimano besides the great quality of the reels, is the service. I find that Shimano has by far the best service of any reel manufacture.
And verdict is shimano FL 3000c. Will order it in a next few days. Love Penn, Daiwa to. For me, part of fishing is maintenance of gear, and with maglube, magoil or whatever is name, Daiwa coused troubles.
i have a stradic FL , Ballistic LT , Slammer 3 and spinfisher VI as my main reels .I can 100 % confirm that Nick's reviews are legit.Everything he says is 100% true. My favourite ? - its a split decision between the Ballistic and the FL ... just like Nick pointed out in this video.
At this point ... I'm an Okuma fan ... when they wear out, or break, I'll consider something else. A few older Daiwa's are also still used ... ( even a 50's Mitchel 300, which cost about $25 new. )
Truly the best reel reviews.
Been looking a bit at the liveliner Spinfisher as an option for fishing the kelp on day trips on the west coast. Mostly this would mean calico bass and fish similar sized. But, on these trips you can also run into yellowtails and bonito and the like. I'm split here on what size of reel would work better for this application- the 4500 or 6500. I'd be using it on a roughly 20-30 pound class rod. This would be my first Penn, used to mainly Shimano sizing- in the past a 4000 size Shimano worked fine for the calicos, was a little undergunned on small yellowtail.
A fish took my daiwa bg 2500 in the water and I luckily got it back. The reel was completely submerged in saltwater for 4 or 5 seconds and 1 week later it’s still smooth and has no damage internally I think.
Good luck with that.
can you do a vid like this but comparing large saltwater reels instead :)
Large spinning reel are useless except for casting big popper IMHO, they're not great against overhead or big baitcast
@@enrikomulawarman7617 im from australia we barely use overhead and baitcast for anything except barra fishing, trolling and jigging
@@flynnellison9435 he said himself, didn't review big spinning reel, and made a point, and ido agreed. But I forgot which video
@@enrikomulawarman7617 disagree. Large spinning reels allow me to toss large live baits with one hand, great for finesse casting and are way easier and compact still than a conventional reel. I use a Van Staal 250 vsb spinning reel which is strong as hell and yet I can cast it with one hand under hand or even over hand.
That video of Elias using the Penn is insane. I’ve absolutely never seen a fish take off and just burn out the drag like that. That was nuts.
I bought the Stradic FL C5000XG because of your teardown review. I am happy and satisfied with this!
Have you ever heard of Florida Fishing Products? Based out of Tampa. Have you ever looked into their reels? If so, what were your thoughts? If not, I'd love to see you do a breakdown on their Osprey and hear your thoughts on there product. Great work as always!
Yessss!!!!!!
He talks about them in the video. They are OEM reels made in china. You can buy the same exact reel (different color) straight from china for 60-80 bucks.
I've fished with almost all of the reels in the video and it's no surprise that Scoob/tackle advisor hits the nail on the head. The Stradic FK & FL are my favorite with the Ballistic LT coming in a pretty close 2nd.
We used a Shimano Soccoro 5000 SW which I found on sale on sale for just $67 bucks. It was in the surf for a year and it held up to striped bass up to 21 lbs, halibut to 14 lbs, A 27 lb white sea-bass, a 38 lb black sea-bass and a large number of snags on a reef we fish from shore. . The drag is no velvet smooth, the bail closes on casting from time to time, plus it has a few other deals but for $67 bucks hard to complain about the price. The full 139.00 asking price, then we might have a problem.. It was not a complete piece of crap, it caught some big fish and it still works with signs of some wear. We Upgraded to Penn Slammer III 5500's at 189.99 and these even had the upgraded heavier bail system vs the first generation of Penn slammer III and at no additional cost . 18 hard fished surf months later the two Penn Slammer III slammers bought have been everything promised . Only thing with Penn is that the reels are stiff the first week due to the grease packed but once worked in over 2 trips the reels stiffness disappears.
I fish for big surf species and these reels have got soaked / fully emerged by waves with no problems. there obviously a much different need that that of a angler who needs light weight for many repetitive casts where every ounce saves your arm and shoulder grieve. but for Drag power, a 5500 having 40 lbs worth, Dependability and easy maintenance wise the Penn Slammer III has done very well.
Thanks for being very informative. The fact that Penn sometimes have their reels sale almost 50% its price messed up everything. A slammer 3 4500 for $145 was no brainer.
Would a 4000 black bay be good enough for surf fishing and for occasional halibut, rays, and leopard sharks? Or would it be better to get a 5000 Stradic fl with increased drag and line capacity? The Ballistic sounds really nice too but I care more about a metal frame and the smoothness than it being light.
I just added a Stradic 2500 HG FL to my fishing arsenal...Got several older Stradic FI reels that have held up well inshore kayak fishing in the Southern Maryland area of the Chesapeake Bay. 95% of my fishing is light spinning 1/8- 3/8 Oz lures and most fish I target are specked trout, white perch, striped bass, redfish and spanish mackerel. Reels have 10-12# braid...use 20# Trielene XT mono for leaders tied on with FG knot. For quick disconnects I use the Fastach clip by Mustad.
I like watching your videos. It's like listening to a Podcast. I still understand what's happening even when I can't see the visuals.
Now, over a year later, wonder if the new Ballistic LT and Vanford breakdown would be amazing.
Wonder why you didn't include Quantum Cabo PT. Does Quantum make inferior reels?
My Cabo is superior to my Stradic and Saltist, I prefer Quantum products myself.
Just ordered the Abu garcia revo premier for $150.... hopefully it’s worth it. Taking a gamble considering I see a lot of complaints. People either love it or hate it. I’ll just be freshwater fishing for largemouth with it. This is also the only review I could find for it....
@The Goods if mine lasts for 5 years I’ll be happy
Just before the new model Penn spin Fisher VI was released I went to bass pro and got the spin Fisher V 6500 for $ 60...bought 2 of them, better deal I could get.
What about the quantum smoke inshore? Absolutely love that one. I throw stradic and the smoke
I have owned a few back bays and have tried several $200-$300 JDM Daiwa LT reels and always went back to the back bays! I originally had bought a back Bay because your video talk me into it! LOL
I’ve been watching since high school now I’m in college. Still watching in class
Haaaaa awesome
Great video. Now i dont know about the new ones, but i have 2 okuma cedros reels (the ones with the blue handles that are discontinued) and they are better than all of these reels in everyway except at freespinning. They are sealed pretty tight so they feel a little stiff, but they are butter smooth and the power they have compares more to a saragosa or penm slammer, im so upset they dont sell them anymore but if you guys come accross these okumas on ebay or something, dont hesitate to buy them. The new ones (they are black) i dont know about so i cant speak for those, ill get one for sure though and see if they are as good.
Edit. Forgot to say they run for about $130-$200 depending on the size
Penn & Akios are my go-to spinners for salt. The Fin- nor Ahab was a monster reel when it was in production & should come back exactly the way they were
Over here we are lucky to have all the different gear ratio for Stradic FL. Even shallow spool option.
Got a spheros 4000sw a few weeks ago. Can’t wait to fish it. Seeing Elias catching big reds with it,can’t wait to land some strippers. Bought the reel after your review Thanks much!
Edit stripers
Or maybe strippers if they’re really into fishing
Great video dude; very informative as always. Was thinking about getting a Spheros SW 4000 for some light beach fishing. Also liked your point about Daiwa's oversaturation of spinning reels, and I can't help but think that their baitcaster selection is getting a kinda big as well.
I Just purchased a Stradic Fl 2500 Best reel i have
I also have a ci4+ 1000
Yes, that Alan Hawk article was something; now since the BG has morphed over time, I wish Daiwa would upgrade the SS Whisker Tournament series, in the same design, but using their current top components! :)
With the long spool do you think the SS Whisker cast better than the new Shimano FL longer spool model?
@@JD-hs7ib I believe so, they were the first to do that, and the SS Tournament has proven itself through decades! BTW, still in Alan Hawk's list! :)
Whilst Alan Hawks tear downs are super detailed he takes so long to get new ones out for new reels
I saw lots of them in Keys in the 90s. But never cast one. I gotta try one out.
He misses a lot like the too light main shaft (many bent reported) and that the pinion assembly is wide open to saltwater. Penn Battle III might not quite have the cranking power, but has better gearing and vastly better protection from saltwater.
After 30 years still the Mitchell 498 spinreel for Seafishing still smooth working like mine Fl 5000 xg and BG mag, guess the last two reels dont last that long.
Honestly, though I've tried and liked the Stradic, that extra 15% weight kills my wrist (since my arm was previously injured). My opinion is that the Tatula LT is the best under $200. First, it's actually one that i could buy for under $200 and with tax, which is actually is a $200 budget, not $200+. Second, it's lightweight. Though I had the ganglion cyst removed, my arm isn't able to hold up as it used to. Third and lastly, man I like that 6:2:1 gear ratio. I fished my wife's older Shimano Sahara 2500 and I fell in love with that specific retrieve ratio. Just my two cents. Would really appreciate it to see what you think of my situation.
A little late but the new Stradic CI4++ reel you say will come out, it’s the Shimano Vanford. Great reel and so lite.
I bought my Tsunami shield based in large part on the $100 buying guide vid. Great reviews! Keep ‘em coming!
How does the Okuma Helios compare? That’s the only one missing. My experience with Okuma is that they last very well. Great job on the video, I love watching your videos because I learn something every time.
Okuma gets a lot of hate but I've used their products for years and never had any problems out of any of their reels I've owned
@@MichaelSmith-ck2ro I like Okuma's budget reels. They offer some serious competition in the under $100 range.
I seriously went all out on the Abu Garcia spinning reels- the Premier and even the MGX reel. After just two years- I hated them. The bail was flipping while casting, the reverse was kicking in while I was fighting a fish, and even worse- the rigidity was falling apart. It did not last- the quality was not there. Now I will admit- they took all three reels in and replaced them with brand new ones without giving me a hard time at all. I sold all three of them and then turned to Shimano reels. Now I'm a Daiwa man!
@Tackle Advisors Daiwa Ballistic JDM TW LT or Shimano Stradic if both are in the 215-250 range
Ballistic Japan has the zinc gear like the caldia.... Doesn't make it bad but I like premium gearing
Tackle Advisors the one on tacklewarehouse does as well? is there a difference between the 350 dollar JDM
and the 229 dollar US model? cuz the 350 dollar one is on clearance for 229
I have a Daiwa Ballistic LT 3000 on a 10' Savage gear Salmonoid 15-35g gramm rod that i use for smaller lures (10-30 gramm) when coastel or pier fishing and that is sooo smooth (the reel price is 300,-us$ here in Denmark). I also just got a (brand new old stock) Penn Slammer 460 on a 9' Savage Gear Salt 1DFR shore jigging 40-80 gramm rod (and that reel is only 100,-us$ new on sale). I use it for bigger lures (30-80 gramm) That Penn is a tank and i have no worries getting saltwater on it when boat fishing.
Have you ever done a video on how to clean your reel and rod after a saltwater fishing trip. I see so many videos online and never know which one to trust since they all seem to be different. Any advice on how to do it and what products to use? I’m most concerned about the reel cleansing as washing the rod seems very straight forward. Thanks again for any expert advice you can give a newbie
The way I do it is:
1. Tighten your drag all the way down to reduce how much water gets in.
2. Use light pressure water to rinse everything, don't put too much water on the actual reel body. *Warm water takes off more salt.* Don't be afraid to use extra pressure on the actual rod guides and your lures
3. Let it all dry off. I like to put a fan in front of everything to help it dry faster. Loosen your reel's drag all the way, otherwise you're compressing the drag washers which is bad.
Optionally you can get a product called salt-away that helps salt come off. Salt corrodes by keeping water at the metal surface for a longer period of time on a microscopic level.
Btw I apply some oil to the line roller bearing on some regular cadence, maybe once a month. Adjust based on how much you fish.
One more thing I do only applies if you have multi-piece rods (e.g 2 piece rod). I get a small block of paraffin wax and rub it on the rod ferrule (where the rod pieces connect, the piece that sticks into the hollow end of the rod). This simultaneously lubricates and also tightens the connection between the rod pieces next time you put it together. I do this whenever i remember to, which is about every other trip. Ideally I think every trip would be good. You can get a huge block of paraffin wax from amazon for like $10-15.
@@samcliu thanks!
FINALLY got an FL! Got one today here in Tampa. I'm pretty sure i got the last one available here in Florida haha. Can't find them anywhere at the moment. No where online or any store I've been to until today! Got the 4K and it's buttery smooth. However, my Daiwa Saltist Back Bay 4K is slightly smoother. I've dunked my my Back Bay multiple times now in the kayak inshore and it's still like new. Will see how this Stradic holds up to the saltwater over time. Tight lines and as always enjoy your videos.
took me two months to find my 3k stradic in FL
I know you get bombarded with questions but obviously your knowledge and advice is highly sorted. Which would be your pick bass fishing size range of 2500-3000
Lews custom pro speed spool $130
Vanford $230
Ballistic LT $230
Tatula LT$200
Thank you
I actually bought a Daiwa Kage lt which is $200 retail got it for 168 basically a tatula with more bearings and more attractive look love to see your thoughts on that reel soon
It's exactly that... Daiwa tried offering a reel not to be sold on the internet.. To select dealers... I forwarded 3 online postings to the rep a week after it hit shelves.... Stupid decision by Daiwa to do that and not enforce it.... Very good reel overall
The VI also has LC version with taller spools............
looking forward to seeing the clash 2.. Penn seems to have some good momentum in their spinning reels.
The rotor in the Caldia is Zion, check the Daiwa Japan website.
Cool... It looked like it was.. Thanks for confirming
I sold my wife's Premier 30, my STX20 would spin backwards during very cold weather or popping line to free a snag, not always, but at bothering times. I figured it was time to get her/us another Shimano/Daiwa for our all purpose spinning setup. Now Stradic FL's are sold out EVERYWHERE so I might have to find a deal on a Twin Power or Certate...
Same thing actually happened to my tatula lt. Winter day ( around 35F) clearing a snag and it spinned backwards. Im guessing anti reverse clutch failed?
I do have new FL and am super happy about it.
Thanks for your uploads man!!! After learning the quality from you all my reels are now shimano and daiwa. Thanks again man!!!😎
I like all you explanation on the reel.
Did you managed to have a look at Shimano Twinpower 2020.
Was planning to get it.
What’s the difference from the normal saltist vs the black bay saltist ?
I use wft strong braid 15 kg for red perch and trout fishing for the occasional pike also when I get stuck on timber for 6 years plus
Could be more precise and mark reels with names, because at some point weare missing which model you talking about... At the end would be great if you could give a clear summary which is in you idea has a greatest value for money! Thanks for another great video!
Are you going to review the penn torque 2 series or even compare them to the high end reels in the fishing community. I’ve been debating on getting one and I know you do a great job when it comes to reel breakdowns.
but what size?TORQUE is good for topwater!!(advantage over makaira20k is that it weighs less). But only fast retrieve and $750...not so soft others, saltiga&stella.
I would go for half price slammer or already a CATALINA (if I need for jigging and 80lb braid I go with spheros 20k)....some people don't want MAGSEALED!, before twin power would go to stella 2nd hand.
I’ve caught 20 pound Blackfin on a 5500 spinfisher no problems so far
What about the Penn Slammer, does it hold up to the Stradic FL and Back Bay for saltwater inshore fishing? (The smaller size penn slammers, 3500, 4500)
Penn Slammers are HEAVY AS FUCK, compare it to the same Daiwa Ballistic 4000, its literally half the weight. and 4 lbs of torque less, but after a long day of fishing i rather use my Ballistic than my Slammer3
@@NFiltr8RedHey I dont blame you. I own a slammer 4500 and a couple of shimano and daiwa LT reels around 4000 size and I do agree with you. The weight is important, especially if your casting. I mainly use the light reels for shore fishing. However I tend to use the slammer for slow jigging stationary from a boat so the weight dont really feel that bad for that use. I guess I really only wanted to know how he felt about the Slammer...cause I feel like its robust.
RikkiVideos , the Slammer doesn’t feel like it’s gonna break easily. You can toss it around on boats and in the rocks and it’s gonna stand up to punishment from the elements. I have a Stella FJ 3000 and Exist 3000, both are my lake and river reels, both have brought in 30-40 lb Salmon with ease, but as stated before. My wrist doesn’t hate me at the end of the day.
@@NFiltr8Red Hey good to know. I might have to save up for a top end reel then :)
My go to spinning reels are Shimano and Daiwa. If I want to get a reel under $100 I usually go Okuma. I seem to prefer Daiwa’s high end spinning reels. The spinning reels I’ve had the worst experience with are Mitchell Avocet ones.
Best sub 100 is the Fuego LT nothing can beat that monster.
Sungsoo Lee it’s definately good. I just love the durability Okuma offers. The Okuma Ceymar for an example has a machined, well engineered main gear and its proven to be really durable.
Looking at the German market, the Caldia is quite a little cheaper than the Ballistic. Sadly we don't get the Tatula here, which I would love :(
ABOUT DAMN TIME!!!
YEAH I got 400 bucks of found money and could use 2 new reels.
Ditto so I got the Metanium 2020
NICE !!!! tight lines
I hope to use it soon, California doesn’t think Fishing is social distancing
i have one heavy spinning reel for fresh water its a bg... but im not using for finesse im using it for catfish and stripers... other than that i agree with you on casting and reeling lures definitely like a lighter reel
Sorry for being so honest 😁 okuma azores 55s, abu garcia elit max 60, tsunami shield 5000, which to buy and why, or which fishing reel besides these previous reels do you recommend ?, hello I'm from Mexico, I have a wife, two children, I'm paying for a house , in my work I earn 10,000 pesos a month, it's like 500 dollars in the United States, please help me decide which fishing reel to buy because I practice shore fishing and I want a fishing reel that can hold me for at least two years or more, because buying a reel greater than 150 dollars is very difficult for me to buy, that is why it is difficult for me to decide which of those fishing reels to buy, please save me, thank you for your time and your help, I hope you can help me because I love , shore fishing, and I don't want to be just a spectator for not being able to buy the right fishing reel
If I was in a similar situation, I would save money until I could afford a reel that is truly sealed against sand and water. Then, for your investment it may last the rest of your life, and maybe well into your children's lives. Quality does matter as long as you are paying for quality and not just bragging rights.
Love your videos!
Quick question: do you do reel repair?? Also, are you going to do a breakdown on any JDM reels or the vanford?
Such a solid channel. Always enjoy your knowledge and explanations. Thank you 👍🏻
Solid channel, good info! Currently own three Stradic Fls...easily the best spinning reel I have owned to date. They are much smoother than the six CI4s I did own but have since sold. Occasionally had some bearing problems with my CI4s. Waiting on the latest version of the CI4 which I am told will be released in August 2020. I was also told the new version of the CI4 will be renamed...no longer will be named the “CI4.” I am waiting to see if the new version of the current CI4 will incorporate all the features of the current Stradic FL. If so, game over.
hey, do you know what that name will be and when it get released? do you know where i can get more informations? thanks!
@@pampeinio7861
Shimano Vanford
Have you ever tore apart and reviewed Piscifun Carbon X2000 or 3000?
11 bearings, 6.2:1, 22 lb's of drag, smooth and rock solid no flex. But not sealed. Just bought one for $62. Seems like a great buy.
Thanks so much for all of the awesome videos. Looking to get a spinning reel to pair with a ML or M jerkbait rod for bass and big brown trout. For those applications, I was thinking a light compact 3000 spinning reel would be good. Since its freshwater, I was thinking the Tatula LT TALT3000-CXH would be good. Is it really worth getting the stradic at 1.6 oz heavier since you speak so highly of it? Will the Ci4 be expected soon? Thanks again!
Would have loved updated review...$300 range like the 20 Twin Power
i've been waiting this for so long!thanks.i wish we could see some new okuma reviews !
Daiwa Saltiest mq vs stradic ? I’ve been too the stradic is still better at a cheaper price point
I’ve been very happy with my Mitchell 300s from Walmart. At 45 dollars they are cheap,but they are reliable and fairly smooth. I use them for catfish; I’ve yet to break one,even though they are undersized.
Waiting to hear Scooby's thoughts on the new Shimano Vanford.
I picked one up in the store the other day feels like what you would expect it too. Basically a carbon framed Stradic. Oh and roll tide! 😝
What braid are you using. I can’t find that beige color anywhere.
Great information as usual. It looks like Shimano has come out with the Stradic ci-4 ++ that you've been hoping for, they're calling it the Vanford. My brother in law is looking at one, do you have any initial thoughts? Will there be a review coming? Thanks
Awesome video, I don't buy a reel unless you have something to say about it, would love some more videos on knot modifications, tools, etc.
Feeling nothing when spinning the handle or feeling a bit of mechanism meshing when under load has nothing to do with general durability or bullet proofness if hooking a monster. We need to know what performs year after year with routine maintenance and tons of use.
I’m still wondering if the vanford or the stradic FL which one is a better buy.
Looking in the 3000 range.
I can’t seems to find this daiwa BG all black as you have.
Been looking forward with the “quantum smoke pt inshore” too!
This is going to be my next upgrade, from a Penn Fierce III
Why does Daiwa put an anti-reverse switch on saltwater reels? Having ruined a BG3500 because of saltwater intrusion through that switch location, I'm very leery of the Saltist, Back Bay, Ballistic etc....
Does Daiwa seal that location on the higher end reels than the BG?
Hey TA, any vids coming up comparing the Procyon LT, Tatula LT, and the Procyon AL?
Getting into saltwater inshore/beach fishing mainly paddle tails spoons, etc and wanted to get my first saltwater setup that would I would be able to do multiple techniques and was wondering what rod and reel combo you would you recommend in the $150-200 total range. Thanks for the help
You're looking at the right place if considering the spinfisher vi combo
Tackle Advisors thanks I really appreciate the advice
I noticed you said majority of daiwa reels are very similar. I noticed that in their descriptions as well. I was looking at the daiwa phantom but watching this video made me want the back bay now. What are your thoughts on the phantom?
Thanks for another informative video! Keep them coming!
Please come back to youtube
Coming back in a big way, hell or high water in one week.
@@TackleAdvisorswe’re waiting lol