At the end I name-swapped Madeline and Mina when talking about their "reconciliation" -- Mina is the one who got over her trauma with the accident, obviously Lmao. Sorry! Hope you enjoyed the recap / small review. I honestly didn't care at all about this film and it wasn't even so-bad-its-good so it just kind of bored me to death. Mid film at best, don't spend money on this one my friends. Thanks for watching!
At one point I started to think The Watchers were going to turn out to be some kinda of A.I. program that was studying humans and everything was going to be some weird simulation.
She does tell the bird "Try not to die" when she leaves it alone, which the bird repeats almost immediately. Not defending it, it's a fkn terrible movie.
thank you omg stark did you actually watch the movie? i just discovered your channel and really liked you but now I'm questioning if i can trust you! boo don't do this to me!
@@karadevlieger6560 I sat in a fucking theater with idiotic teenagers who wouldn't shut the fuck up at the beginning and other parts of the film. Very sad.
@Stark-Cinema that was my experience also, I can sympathise. I still think about this movie, for all the wrong reasons. Which is still far more than it deserves.
I just recently found your channel because of the acolyte reviews, but your commentary and reveiws are just really good in general. i didn't even see this movie, but i enjoyed this video regardless
I don't think Mina's mom "decided" to crush her fingers. 😅 She was trying to roll the window up and Mina then tries to hold it down to stop it. Her fingers get crushed in the process. The hardest position to see in the driver's seat is the passenger sitting behind you so it's hard to see what's happening. When her mom turns to try and look, she takes her eyes off the road and they collide. Mina was being a brat and her mom may have overreacted but I think the point is that no one can really be blamed in that situation. All in all though, I wasn't a fan of the movie either. Great review!
The way the film portrayed it the mom came off as a dumb lady who didn’t give a shit to pull over and calm her kid down so she just rolled the window up without caring.
This was quite the mixed bag for me. I really liked the first two acts, I thought the mystery and thrills were very engaging. Unfortunately the 3rd act really went down hill for me. The reveal and “twist” just didn’t work for me.
When I got into the video, I tought your voice was A.I. generator and I was like... "its another one of thoes..." and than I saw your face and was like ah noice
I guess im the only one who enjoyed this movie. Mina changing herself to bond with strangers is what later saves her life when Madeline tries to kill her. I enjoy the mythical creature part of it, im so glad it wasnt some secret society or govt crap (tired of those). I enjoyed the twist of Madeline also being a fairy (part fairy). It made sense that she knew so much about what they want and how to hide from them. Also that no people longer than her were there. I will say the negatives were that the characters weren't displaying fear as much as they should have. Especially Mina when she first arrived. Also was unrealitic that the professor's office was unused for so long, they should have just made it his house. Last, them not looking under the carpet was stupid. The door should have been hidden better.
27:35 wrong. Madeline never said that the watchers can't swim. She actually said that, they don't have to worry because the watchers can't leave the forest. So there's a difference! You just have to listen closely
This could’ve been so much better. Had they removed the contrived trauma bonding and fully committed to the fair folk mythology (seriously, look up the non- sanitized fey stories that are creepy and haunting) it could have been worth a watch
That's kinda what I felt too... I felt like there was a lot of cut story there... I feel like this movie was "babie's first REAL Fairy tale abridged and edited for modern viewers"... So I'm just sat there going... Okay... but WHY were there Norse runes when we're supposed to be in Ireland?... Oh we have a yellow bird? okay makes sense the Fair Folk dislike yellow, but did our folklore accurate looking fairy just touch iron? Oh cool... they're "changelings", so when is the baby swap going to be revealed? Why did we waste perfectly good opportunity to make the main character a changeling? She ticks a lot of boxes for the behavior...
@@jonfreeman9682 look more into the actual stories about the mythology this is leaning on- Changelings were butt ugly, the vast majority of them are. The cute little critter trope is far more a modern take originating around the time of the Victorian era. The Tooth Fairy? based off the Bone Fairy and FAR more frightening.
It's not her fault, she grew up listening to Lady in the Water as a bed time story, how are you supposed to understand storytelling when that's your example 😂😂
I don't know if you read comments, but I really like your channel. I work at a movie theater I've been there for over 12 years so if you're interested in some actual customer feedback from movies I'll gladly tell you, most people really enjoyed the first half of the watchers and then the second half they just didn't care for it at all they liked the idea it just didn't execute properly. Most people are really excited for trap! Hopefully you'll watch that and we'll get another one of these cuz these are incredible!
A few months ago, I listened to the audio book this film is "based on" and my gosh, did they ever just take the character names and basic setting and then do a very bad job of adapting this atmospheric modern Irish folk tale 😕 Reminds me of what Netflix did to the Bird Box adaptation or D&D did to Game of Thrones. This is one of those situations where I'd recommend reading the book, but to go in blind (not possible for watchers of this video, unfortunately).
It’s better explained in the book to a degree. In that they have to set traps up at the tops of trees for birds. They set them in the top because birds don’t like to land in the forest, pretty much all animals avoid it like the plague. So they trap birds when they can and other times they forage for edible plants and berries. For water there is a stream near the coop one of them walks to every morning to collect water. They don’t shower. It’s December when Mina and the bird show up so it’s too cold to bathe. The most she does is splash freezing water on herself sometimes and tries to keep her hands clean. When they enter civilization they’re filthy. Mina ends up having to get a pixie haircut because her hair was so matted. I don’t believe there is a mention of how they use they use the bathroom though my guess is out in the woods during the day.
The movie was a mess. When watching it, I had difficulties getting into it, and now hearing it described out loud, I understand why 😅 Watching this on my way to the gym, waiting for my preworkout to kick in. Awesomely done, as always - thank you, bro.
I like this movie. I comprehend most of it. It’s pretty much about past trauma and letting go of guilt, regret, and pain. (Foreshadowing) The main character Mina shape shifts into other people (wearing wigs, different personas) because she blames herself for her mom’s death. Once in the forest there are fairies that can shape shift into humans. The fairies have a grudge against the humans because humans locked them away in this forest . The fairie watch the humans to master what it’s like to be human, (ex the show “Big Brother” replaying over and over, interactions with each other). There is only one fairy that can do it perfectly. This fairy can be in sunlight, unlike the others that only come out at night. Reason is revealed towards the end when the fairy finds out it’s half human. As the fairy recollects on its bonding time with the humans(feelings,emotions, sympathy) it realizes it doesn’t have to be shackled down by its past and chooses to watch over Mina as s guardian while Mina learns to let go of her past trauma.
Just to add, after every single showing we had at our theater, at the very least 4-7 people complained about how bad it was in passing😭 perks of working at the movies is I know what the public opinion is on it first
I once had a theater employee tell me the movie I was about to see was terrible. It was The Mist and turned out to be one of my favorite films of that year, so maybe by lowering my expectations, he made the film more memorable for me.
@@tylerskiss, yeah good idea, I don't listen to other ppl's taste in movies or in general Specifically if I myself enjoy the less liked movies than most. I thought "The mist" was a great movie also btw 👌
was really interested to hear your takes on this one, where it lost me was with the actions daniel takes towards the end as if that issue hasn't been resolved like twice before, im not too nitpicky with my films but that was just dumb
I watched the movie recap and was also very very disappointed. I really thought it was going to be a metaphor to spectating and watching influencers and reality TV. In the end it looks like they completely scrapped that idea and made this shit.
I don’t like most of the changes the movie made from the book. For some reason the bird having a name is annoying to me, I like how the book refers to him to simply as “the golden one” throughout the whole thing. Plus it didn’t talk. Dani was just a traumatized kid and not autistic or crazy in the book. Also as an autistic person I don’t like how the movie just made him autistic for some reason. Ciara didn’t do much because she was devastated from the loss of her husband which felt real. Plus the cool thing was that the watchers brought him to the coop to torture him but the people aren’t able to see outside at all so there’s a bit of questioning if it’s really him and a rift forms when everyone makes Ciara stay inside instead of opening the door and dooming them all. The bird doesn’t leave his cage, instead they have a freaking compass which makes more sense. Like the book wasn’t perfect but I prefer how it went about things more.
Ireland doesn't have massive virgin forests like that, nor does it have such a huge population of black people. If you want movies to look like they take place in America, just set them in America and be done with it.
Most of Ireland is deforested but there are some old growth forests left, enough to make something like this movie feasible. The characters are kept in a small area of the forest because of magic. As someone who’s lived in Ireland, there are enough people of color living there that having literally one black person in a group of white people isn’t far fetched. Also my guy, you’re talking about realism in an M Night Shyamalan movie about faeries lmao.
I tried watching this movie and fell asleep on it the first time and the second time, I wished I was asleep.. I have to watch this review to fully grasp what I've seen .... The movie was all over the place, the story telling wasn't good and I was left feeling like what was the point for real!!
This movie makes Lady On The Lake make sense. Im picturing this guys daughter, back in the day, coming up with a half assed movie idea and her dad and her worked together on it. It was out there, but the dad helped work out an actual story. This one, the daughter did herself. Its out there, but the dad wasnt there to build the story out.
just finished watching this movie, and I must say, I've had a few books about fairies (Dark Fairies, for example) and have always wondered if there was a movie about them. and the Watchers is the most in-depth film on fairies, at least the evil fairies, that I've seen. bonus video. ua-cam.com/video/5LK2KgEFeQc/v-deo.html
I'm glad i watched the recap recently and did not watch the movie in full. I saw Lady in the Water in the theaters and HATED IT. Then i saw the recap of this and had to think about how much i hated that movie. This movie and that movie WENT NO WHERE. They try to build this mythology and characters but it wasn't scary or interesting.
I liked the movie. But was still a bit disappointed? Like I thought it was going to go way more into how Mina plays other people and the fairies can turn into other people. I also noticed how in the beginning of the movie, we don't see the faces of the shop keeper or the man Mina talks to at the bar. The shop keepers face also looked a bit off. I thought that was going to come up more but it didnt. I knew that we were dealing with changlings immediately lol! I love irish folklore. There were just some things I thought the movie would do and it just didn't. I loooooved the old lady. I really want to see her in more things. She just looked really cool to me lol.
i feel like the dialogue was off. It had zero subtext, and didnt let you think for yourself, it always told you the things that were happening and didnt let you piece it tpgether by yourself. Kind of annoying, i think that hindered the experience a lot for me
Fairies are a huge part of Irish folklore. You should’ve done a bit of research. This doesn’t make the movie better but it does make a difference for the story of the fae being the bad guys
Honestly I love the premise... but the execution just bad. She tried to cpy the style of her father, wich is itself not very good in a storytelling point of view, and hit and miss with his atmosphere... But yeah, when you're "daughter of", you can have the buget for a movie based on your name, not your skills... Nepotism at is finest...
Shymalan’s “flaw” was always finalizing stories with prioritizing the idea/premise and not the actual story. He clearly doesn’t have an issue coming up with great ideas.
Hey Stark; I'm just looking up reviews/hot takes/whatever about 'The Watchers' an- Hold up! I'm just a guy looking stuff up (for clarity) and this is by far the best, honest "review" of this bat-shit film; why the heck did I have to scroll through ten pages of crap to find you?! There was a god-fearing one that nearly had me... fuck! You're good; your honesty goes a long way - I hope you don't mind if I tag along (also, I've drank a lot so I can only apologise for sounding like I'm from some sort of corporate wank parlour, "tickle your toes John?" - I meant well when I started... fuck🤦🏻♂)
I was so stoked when I heard there was a horror movie featuring fae creatures coming out. Mythology and folklore is a passion of mine and has been since I was a kid. Some of those original fairytales are bleak as hell with terrifying creatures that are a mix of wild animal, unknowable magic, and natural disaster. There's so much potential there for great movies. Sadly, it sounds like this one missed the mark and ended up being incredibly stupid and boring. I was gonna go see it too. :(
“Try not to die” the bird whispers to the movie. Lol thanks for the cid sir, not a fan of other channels adding more extra bs to stretch their videos. I gotta admit your voice put me to sleep, i had to rewatch after nap. Will be watching you more when i cant sleep.
I feel bad for the movie… listening to people rip it apart. I haven’t seen it yet but I read the book and a lot of the plot issues sound straight out of the book. I mean, they could have changed things, but maybe they were wanting to stick closely to the source material. I’ll have to watch it and decide from there.
I genuinely fell asleep during this movie, my favourite genre of movies are thrillers/horrors. It wasnt good, i was able to catch some of the movie some shots are good but thats all.
There is a major plot hole no one seems to talk about. It is explained that feries were good etc etc and then they had kids with humans. It was these "kids" what were able to shapeshift and scared humans so much that they banished the feries. So all the watchers must be halflings since they shapeshift but thats not true in the movie as Madeline is a "daywalker" and is special because she is a halfling, implying the other watchers are "normal" feries. Am I missing something???
The ability to shape shift was passed down. It's explained that no one knows what happened to the halflings, because they were more difficult to distinguish.
In the trailer I saw Dakota tells the bird "I'm going out tonight, try not to die." And the the bird repeats it. Was that cut from the film itself, removing the context for the bird to say it later? I feel like that's on par for Shyamalamanam, aiming for something but then tweaking it in the wrong way so it just completely misses the mark 🙄
4:12 Not her friend, twin sister 12:01 we see multiple times they cook the food outside in the daytime. There was a fire and a bird cooking over it, in one shot.
Ahhhh yes. Very good. Sorry I missed a few details; I was in a shit-show cinema that had a group of obnoxious teens next to me and had to keep telling them to shut the fuck up. That’s why I also missed the line about the bird saying try not to die.
I haven’t seen the movie yet, but finished the audio book last night. The book is more detailed and a bit different of course, creepy. It’s was 10 hours long (audio book). I sad alone in my parents living, which overlooked woods, from 11pm to 3am listening to the book - excited, yet creepy and scary I was.
I think some people really don't get the symbolism of this film. It clearly went over some people's head, and if you are more an absolute 'realist' and insist that all movies make '100%' to your world view, then your fooling yourself. Your world view is just as bad as anything in this movie, you just judge other peoples as worse', but don't have the skills, bravery, humility, courage, nor craftsmanship to make your own, so you judge others in your ivory tower. I don't mind critics, and not everyone has to like everything, but the way you approach critics is so full of yourself, it's hard to imagine you ever creating anything but that which is 100% a reflection of yourself as the main character, because if they are one once different, the your not going to have any empathy for them, so you'd only be able make characters that are 100% the same as your world view. No room for differences, or 'errors'. When musicians play music, especially back in the 70's and eighties they would make mistakes, singing slightly off pitch because the speaker feedback on stage was off, because someone misses the timing etc. But those performances though not perfect were I think so much more full of life then the pitch corrected performances of today.... Yes this movie has some parts you must look past, suspend disbelief to go on the journey. Sometimes the journey is worth suspending the disbelief. But sadly most people are so used to being spoon fed, the ideas of reflection, self-hatred, being uncomfortable in your own skin, seem completely lost on every single reviewer who disliked the movie. And yea, if you can't understand the higher dialogue taking place, the the errors seems random and pointless, rather than filled with the life of a raw performance, writing, journey that both the writer and director have tried to take the audience on. Where you have to forgive the odd note, and look past it to hear the music of the spheres...
Having symbolism doesn't make a movie good. Also, I don't care for 'realism' I care for consistent plot / story logic. I like Lord of The Rings. That shit is so beyond reality.
@@Stark-CinemaIt is clear from your review you missed the themes of the film. And again that's not the issue, it's reviewing something before you have studied it enough to understand it. I think if you want to cut up Acolyte and not search for 'deeper meaning', or 'symbolism', I'm with yea. Cause that is the worst writing and directing possible, worse then a student film, cause at least student films have an excuse, but Acolyte is just unbelievable bad writing. But something like The Watchers, you know the writer of the original source material(book) had deeper themes he was exploring. Every scene in the movie is playing with this theme, even the reasons for her vaping, she can't stand being alone with her thoughts cause someone who is hating themselves, well that's the worse torture you can give them, especially when they have been living with it for a long time, they have by then found coping mechanism to deal with the pain, distraction, taking on other people's goals, etc. So if you had shown you understood what the director was attempting, then I'd be ok with your review, but you just seem to be treating it at surface level, and missing the entire point of the book and film. It's like taking a poem at heart because it doesn't follow proper grammar. The entire point of this film is self choosen isolation for whatever reasons people do that to themselves, and it's a film about going through hell for her to transcend that. At least this is what the writer in interviews, and the director and actors talked about. About the envy that we all have of other people's lives being better than ours, that youtuber's life seems 'so perfect' and how we mimic those in a higher social standing we believe than ourselves, trying to 'mimic', etc. There is yes some issues, like it's hard to believe anyone professor could just kill hundreds of people in the name of 'science', and how the hell would that not be noticed, etc. It's not believable. But it doesn't really matter, sub in whatever you could believe, and it won't change the scripts themes, or ideas. If you want to not look past that, as I said, if you need per pitch, then can't hear what the muscians are going for. What Hendrix was trying to get to, etc. And i explained my in context meaning of 'realism' as being whatever 'works for your own sense of 'believable', etc" ie of course that includes fantasy films, but you will hate some fantasy films because they don't reach your idea of what might be a believable 'consistent' world, based on your particular worldview. It's kind of an obvious point, and your choice of addressing that seems like trying to point to semantics rather then address the meat of the criticism, which is you didn't bother to understand the themes of the source material, and therefore what the film built a foundation from, etc.
I’m reading my personal summary. Lmao. Sorry if you don’t like it. This video was specifically made for people who didn’t watch the film, if you read the title. Thanks and have a great day.
@@Stark-Cinema whoa, don’t misunderstand me, I’m not complaining. I like your summary and agree completely. I was just curious, it sounded like a screenplay.
@@Mary1337 yes, I defended myself with an answer. That's how questions work. I even meant it, like have a great day. Damn the internet! lmao, thanks for the comment
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At the end I name-swapped Madeline and Mina when talking about their "reconciliation" -- Mina is the one who got over her trauma with the accident, obviously Lmao. Sorry! Hope you enjoyed the recap / small review. I honestly didn't care at all about this film and it wasn't even so-bad-its-good so it just kind of bored me to death. Mid film at best, don't spend money on this one my friends.
Thanks for watching!
The movie 🎬 "The hole in the ground" deals with some of the same folklore in Ireland and is better at explaining it
If the watchers watch then who watches the watchers
Hehe
Maybe they wear watches. 😁
"wooooah man are we the watchers? this shit is deep broooo"
The answer is very few people who feign to care
Us lol
At one point I started to think The Watchers were going to turn out to be some kinda of A.I. program that was studying humans and everything was going to be some weird simulation.
I thought it was an allegory for AI at first kinda in the same train of thought but it was just a stupid allegory for personal issues lmao
She does tell the bird "Try not to die" when she leaves it alone, which the bird repeats almost immediately.
Not defending it, it's a fkn terrible movie.
Ahhhh
thank you omg stark did you actually watch the movie? i just discovered your channel and really liked you but now I'm questioning if i can trust you! boo don't do this to me!
@@karadevlieger6560 I watched the movie. I just missed a couple pieces of dialogue. I'm not a liar. Don't do THAT to me, lmao. Thanks
@@karadevlieger6560 I sat in a fucking theater with idiotic teenagers who wouldn't shut the fuck up at the beginning and other parts of the film. Very sad.
@Stark-Cinema that was my experience also, I can sympathise.
I still think about this movie, for all the wrong reasons. Which is still far more than it deserves.
I just recently found your channel because of the acolyte reviews, but your commentary and reveiws are just really good in general. i didn't even see this movie, but i enjoyed this video regardless
I don't think Mina's mom "decided" to crush her fingers. 😅 She was trying to roll the window up and Mina then tries to hold it down to stop it. Her fingers get crushed in the process. The hardest position to see in the driver's seat is the passenger sitting behind you so it's hard to see what's happening. When her mom turns to try and look, she takes her eyes off the road and they collide. Mina was being a brat and her mom may have overreacted but I think the point is that no one can really be blamed in that situation. All in all though, I wasn't a fan of the movie either. Great review!
The way the film portrayed it the mom came off as a dumb lady who didn’t give a shit to pull over and calm her kid down so she just rolled the window up without caring.
@@Stark-Cinemawell the apple didn’t fall far from the tree then because they both seemed like assholes who could both be blamed for the situation lol
@@jaydenvaporwave1772 It's a little fucking kid lmao definitely the parent's fault.
@@Stark-Cinema tbf if I was her my parents would probably just pull over…to then beat my ass 😭😭😭
This movie isn’t that bad. It’s just not great
Yea it’s just ok. Fun enough to keep me through it but ultimately fell flat.
I've seen worse like annihilation and knock at the cabin. But Infinity pool was pretty good.
@jonfreeman9682 annihilation was very weird and creepy I disagree with you
Nepotism at its finest, isn't this just that horror show "Them" the monsters live in underground burrows and only come out during the night
12:42 I'm guessing that the peace talks happening in 1992 are regarding the Irish troubles (1960s-1998)
This was quite the mixed bag for me. I really liked the first two acts, I thought the mystery and thrills were very engaging. Unfortunately the 3rd act really went down hill for me. The reveal and “twist” just didn’t work for me.
When I got into the video, I tought your voice was A.I. generator and I was like... "its another one of thoes..." and than I saw your face and was like ah noice
My assumption is they could cook on a fire they make
sorry at first i thought ai was talking i am new to your channel great job👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I loved the movie no lie. Underrated but it was a solid 7/ 10
Nepotism at its finest. This.
Is why we will no longer have good movies come out of hollywood. It's all about them indie movies now!
I guess im the only one who enjoyed this movie.
Mina changing herself to bond with strangers is what later saves her life when Madeline tries to kill her. I enjoy the mythical creature part of it, im so glad it wasnt some secret society or govt crap (tired of those). I enjoyed the twist of Madeline also being a fairy (part fairy). It made sense that she knew so much about what they want and how to hide from them. Also that no people longer than her were there.
I will say the negatives were that the characters weren't displaying fear as much as they should have. Especially Mina when she first arrived. Also was unrealitic that the professor's office was unused for so long, they should have just made it his house. Last, them not looking under the carpet was stupid. The door should have been hidden better.
Thank you very much for taken the bullet, so I don’t need to .
This would be a good example of a video that would be better with scenes of the movie interwoven with your commentary.
I made it when the movie is in theaters… I can’t legally show the film
Boring movie, it was so dumb and a total waste of time!
it was good
I wanted it to be a good movie soo bad 😢
27:35 wrong. Madeline never said that the watchers can't swim. She actually said that, they don't have to worry because the watchers can't leave the forest. So there's a difference! You just have to listen closely
I’m sorry I paid 20 bucks to see the movie and there were idiot kids next to me who wouldn’t shut the fuck up.
The bird was the best thing in the movie. I was rooting for him to survive to the end.
Somehow the book scared me infinitely more than the movie.
The movie set ups were good, but the scary “punchlines” were awful.
This could’ve been so much better. Had they removed the contrived trauma bonding and fully committed to the fair folk mythology (seriously, look up the non- sanitized fey stories that are creepy and haunting) it could have been worth a watch
That's kinda what I felt too... I felt like there was a lot of cut story there... I feel like this movie was "babie's first REAL Fairy tale abridged and edited for modern viewers"... So I'm just sat there going... Okay... but WHY were there Norse runes when we're supposed to be in Ireland?... Oh we have a yellow bird? okay makes sense the Fair Folk dislike yellow, but did our folklore accurate looking fairy just touch iron? Oh cool... they're "changelings", so when is the baby swap going to be revealed? Why did we waste perfectly good opportunity to make the main character a changeling? She ticks a lot of boxes for the behavior...
And they made the fairy so butt ugly it's hard to feel anything for them. They're supposed to be cute little critters like Tinkerbell.
@@jonfreeman9682 look more into the actual stories about the mythology this is leaning on- Changelings were butt ugly, the vast majority of them are. The cute little critter trope is far more a modern take originating around the time of the Victorian era. The Tooth Fairy? based off the Bone Fairy and FAR more frightening.
Totally! If it went a missing 411 like direction, it could’ve been fantastic!
@@jonfreeman9682 not sure if sarcastic or doesn't know about the original fairy tales before disney...
It's not her fault, she grew up listening to Lady in the Water as a bed time story, how are you supposed to understand storytelling when that's your example 😂😂
I really didn't want to watch this movie, but my sister wanted to, so I showed her this video and thankfully she changed her mind
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I don't know if you read comments, but I really like your channel.
I work at a movie theater I've been there for over 12 years so if you're interested in some actual customer feedback from movies I'll gladly tell you, most people really enjoyed the first half of the watchers and then the second half they just didn't care for it at all they liked the idea it just didn't execute properly. Most people are really excited for trap! Hopefully you'll watch that and we'll get another one of these cuz these are incredible!
I read these and thank you very much my friend ❤
the watchers kinda resembles Windigos from Until Dawn with hair
A few months ago, I listened to the audio book this film is "based on" and my gosh, did they ever just take the character names and basic setting and then do a very bad job of adapting this atmospheric modern Irish folk tale 😕 Reminds me of what Netflix did to the Bird Box adaptation or D&D did to Game of Thrones. This is one of those situations where I'd recommend reading the book, but to go in blind (not possible for watchers of this video, unfortunately).
Thanks for the book rec!!
I had issues with how they eat or drink? Or even use the bathroom. Also, no shower or feminine products?
I just figured they took care of that stuff in the morning time
It’s better explained in the book to a degree. In that they have to set traps up at the tops of trees for birds. They set them in the top because birds don’t like to land in the forest, pretty much all animals avoid it like the plague. So they trap birds when they can and other times they forage for edible plants and berries. For water there is a stream near the coop one of them walks to every morning to collect water.
They don’t shower. It’s December when Mina and the bird show up so it’s too cold to bathe. The most she does is splash freezing water on herself sometimes and tries to keep her hands clean. When they enter civilization they’re filthy. Mina ends up having to get a pixie haircut because her hair was so matted.
I don’t believe there is a mention of how they use they use the bathroom though my guess is out in the woods during the day.
@@HaruDoneYet ok thank you!
They mention in like one throw away line in the movie something about a bucket…I’m assuming that’s dumped and cleaned in the morning or something
@@erinfrazier1439yeah, the boy said “how many times will she p in the bucket?” When introducing Mina
The movie was a mess. When watching it, I had difficulties getting into it, and now hearing it described out loud, I understand why 😅
Watching this on my way to the gym, waiting for my preworkout to kick in. Awesomely done, as always - thank you, bro.
Made my day better reading this comment, I appreciate people like you
I like this movie. I comprehend most of it. It’s pretty much about past trauma and letting go of guilt, regret, and pain. (Foreshadowing) The main character Mina shape shifts into other people (wearing wigs, different personas) because she blames herself for her mom’s death. Once in the forest there are fairies that can shape shift into humans. The fairies have a grudge against the humans because humans locked them away in this forest . The fairie watch the humans to master what it’s like to be human, (ex the show “Big Brother” replaying over and over, interactions with each other).
There is only one fairy that can do it perfectly. This fairy can be in sunlight, unlike the others that only come out at night. Reason is revealed towards the end when the fairy finds out it’s half human. As the fairy recollects on its bonding time with the humans(feelings,emotions, sympathy) it realizes it doesn’t have to be shackled down by its past and chooses to watch over Mina as s guardian while Mina learns to let go of her past trauma.
Thank you
I liked it too. 🤷
Just to add, after every single showing we had at our theater, at the very least 4-7 people complained about how bad it was in passing😭 perks of working at the movies is I know what the public opinion is on it first
I once had a theater employee tell me the movie I was about to see was terrible. It was The Mist and turned out to be one of my favorite films of that year, so maybe by lowering my expectations, he made the film more memorable for me.
@@tylerskiss, yeah good idea, I don't listen to other ppl's taste in movies or in general
Specifically if I myself enjoy the less liked movies than most.
I thought "The mist" was a great movie also btw 👌
I’m so impressed by how quickly you get these out, thank you for your hard work!
Thank you so much! Made my day reading this
"Madeline" knew about the bunker and the videos, could've escaped the forest on her own
was really interested to hear your takes on this one, where it lost me was with the actions daniel takes towards the end as if that issue hasn't been resolved like twice before, im not too nitpicky with my films but that was just dumb
I watched the movie recap and was also very very disappointed. I really thought it was going to be a metaphor to spectating and watching influencers and reality TV. In the end it looks like they completely scrapped that idea and made this shit.
I don’t like most of the changes the movie made from the book. For some reason the bird having a name is annoying to me, I like how the book refers to him to simply as “the golden one” throughout the whole thing. Plus it didn’t talk. Dani was just a traumatized kid and not autistic or crazy in the book. Also as an autistic person I don’t like how the movie just made him autistic for some reason. Ciara didn’t do much because she was devastated from the loss of her husband which felt real. Plus the cool thing was that the watchers brought him to the coop to torture him but the people aren’t able to see outside at all so there’s a bit of questioning if it’s really him and a rift forms when everyone makes Ciara stay inside instead of opening the door and dooming them all.
The bird doesn’t leave his cage, instead they have a freaking compass which makes more sense.
Like the book wasn’t perfect but I prefer how it went about things more.
Ireland doesn't have massive virgin forests like that, nor does it have such a huge population of black people. If you want movies to look like they take place in America, just set them in America and be done with it.
Most of Ireland is deforested but there are some old growth forests left, enough to make something like this movie feasible. The characters are kept in a small area of the forest because of magic.
As someone who’s lived in Ireland, there are enough people of color living there that having literally one black person in a group of white people isn’t far fetched.
Also my guy, you’re talking about realism in an M Night Shyamalan movie about faeries lmao.
is this movie not just the show From but stripped down and worse?
I tried watching this movie and fell asleep on it the first time and the second time, I wished I was asleep.. I have to watch this review to fully grasp what I've seen ....
The movie was all over the place, the story telling wasn't good and I was left feeling like what was the point for real!!
This movie makes Lady On The Lake make sense. Im picturing this guys daughter, back in the day, coming up with a half assed movie idea and her dad and her worked together on it. It was out there, but the dad helped work out an actual story.
This one, the daughter did herself. Its out there, but the dad wasnt there to build the story out.
Haven't finished yet, but i bet it's government related.
Edit: her vape is definitely laced too
😂😂😂
just finished watching this movie, and I must say, I've had a few books about fairies (Dark Fairies, for example) and have always wondered if there was a movie about them. and the Watchers is the most in-depth film on fairies, at least the evil fairies, that I've seen. bonus video. ua-cam.com/video/5LK2KgEFeQc/v-deo.html
The perfect videos to listen to while working out
Its funny because I just had to delete multiple comments saying I’m awful to listen to 😂
But also thanks for the love my friend
I'm glad i watched the recap recently and did not watch the movie in full. I saw Lady in the Water in the theaters and HATED IT. Then i saw the recap of this and had to think about how much i hated that movie. This movie and that movie WENT NO WHERE. They try to build this mythology and characters but it wasn't scary or interesting.
I liked the movie. But was still a bit disappointed? Like I thought it was going to go way more into how Mina plays other people and the fairies can turn into other people. I also noticed how in the beginning of the movie, we don't see the faces of the shop keeper or the man Mina talks to at the bar. The shop keepers face also looked a bit off. I thought that was going to come up more but it didnt.
I knew that we were dealing with changlings immediately lol! I love irish folklore. There were just some things I thought the movie would do and it just didn't.
I loooooved the old lady. I really want to see her in more things. She just looked really cool to me lol.
i feel like the dialogue was off. It had zero subtext, and didnt let you think for yourself, it always told you the things that were happening and didnt let you piece it tpgether by yourself. Kind of annoying, i think that hindered the experience a lot for me
Fairies are a huge part of Irish folklore. You should’ve done a bit of research. This doesn’t make the movie better but it does make a difference for the story of the fae being the bad guys
You should not have to do research to enjoy any film. I stand by my opinion, and now knowing this it still doesn't make the film any better. Lmao.
Thank god...muh curiosity was about to waste my time again
To be fair, the book sucked, so she didn't have a lot to work with for a movie.
LMAO
So glad i found your channel! 😊
Welcome to the channel my friend!!
Honestly I love the premise... but the execution just bad. She tried to cpy the style of her father, wich is itself not very good in a storytelling point of view, and hit and miss with his atmosphere... But yeah, when you're "daughter of", you can have the buget for a movie based on your name, not your skills... Nepotism at is finest...
A real twist in an M. Night Shyamalan movie would be no twist at all.
I would suggest to put more clips from the movie otherwise good video
they simply do not exist the movie is still in theaters
@@Stark-Cinema they simply do illegally... Just don't tell anyone 😉🏴☠️
Shymalan’s “flaw” was always finalizing stories with prioritizing the idea/premise and not the actual story. He clearly doesn’t have an issue coming up with great ideas.
Hey Stark; I'm just looking up reviews/hot takes/whatever about 'The Watchers' an- Hold up! I'm just a guy looking stuff up (for clarity) and this is by far the best, honest "review" of this bat-shit film; why the heck did I have to scroll through ten pages of crap to find you?! There was a god-fearing one that nearly had me... fuck! You're good; your honesty goes a long way - I hope you don't mind if I tag along (also, I've drank a lot so I can only apologise for sounding like I'm from some sort of corporate wank parlour, "tickle your toes John?" - I meant well when I started... fuck🤦🏻♂)
Jesus Christ, I'm terrible at making an entrance... I meant to say, "Hey Stark, Awesome channel; I'm going to Subscribe!"
My friend!! This was an amazing comment to ready, I am lucky to have a viewer like you. Thank you so much!
I was so stoked when I heard there was a horror movie featuring fae creatures coming out. Mythology and folklore is a passion of mine and has been since I was a kid. Some of those original fairytales are bleak as hell with terrifying creatures that are a mix of wild animal, unknowable magic, and natural disaster. There's so much potential there for great movies. Sadly, it sounds like this one missed the mark and ended up being incredibly stupid and boring. I was gonna go see it too. :(
No surprise coming from M. Night "They just don't get me" Sham a lot.
Great video as always!
You deserve way more subscribers dude.
This made my day!! More content coming today - HoTD episode 1 recap commentary 🎬🙏
@Stark-Cinema looking forward to it!
I actually felt bad for wasting time watching this trash. This is one of the worst movies I have ever seen.
Interesting review. I liked the book, probably will watch the film for the creature design.
When you said "the Group Coop" I fucking lost it
She tells the bird she's going out, and try not to die. It repeats her and she's shocked because it's not supposed to mimic
The bird gets that phrase before fanning goes out in the wig; she says “I’m going out tonight, try not to die”
So it's like true blood ?great original storytelling thank you for saving me 30 bucks
Yeh so no one looked for a professor at a university who hadn’t been back to class but left his office in tact
Found your channel the other day and am loving your content; great work and good commentary!
Maybe that's not what she meant with "Happy Ending"...? :)
“Try not to die” the bird whispers to the movie. Lol thanks for the cid sir, not a fan of other channels adding more extra bs to stretch their videos. I gotta admit your voice put me to sleep, i had to rewatch after nap. Will be watching you more when i cant sleep.
Wow. So dumb. Who’s giving the ok on these dumpster fires?
The bird mimicking her is a direct nod to the watchers being mimics lol
I feel bad for the movie… listening to people rip it apart. I haven’t seen it yet but I read the book and a lot of the plot issues sound straight out of the book. I mean, they could have changed things, but maybe they were wanting to stick closely to the source material. I’ll have to watch it and decide from there.
My thing is how did Madeline not know of the underground bunker? She clearly knew the professor would go in and out
I genuinely fell asleep during this movie, my favourite genre of movies are thrillers/horrors. It wasnt good, i was able to catch some of the movie some shots are good but thats all.
Honestly, I loved this movie. I did lose interest after they got in the boat, however, so if i watch it again, ill turn it off there. 😂
There is a major plot hole no one seems to talk about. It is explained that feries were good etc etc and then they had kids with humans. It was these "kids" what were able to shapeshift and scared humans so much that they banished the feries. So all the watchers must be halflings since they shapeshift but thats not true in the movie as Madeline is a "daywalker" and is special because she is a halfling, implying the other watchers are "normal" feries. Am I missing something???
The ability to shape shift was passed down. It's explained that no one knows what happened to the halflings, because they were more difficult to distinguish.
This movie sounds so frustrating! I'm happy just watching this review!
How is this a rant if 3 quarters of the video is a recap of the movie...
Pg 13 movies are pathetic , most of them !!!!
In the trailer I saw Dakota tells the bird "I'm going out tonight, try not to die." And the the bird repeats it. Was that cut from the film itself, removing the context for the bird to say it later? I feel like that's on par for Shyamalamanam, aiming for something but then tweaking it in the wrong way so it just completely misses the mark 🙄
It wasn’t cut; I missed it because I was in an obnoxious showing where the people next to me wouldn’t shut up. I’m sorry 🥴
The movie doesn’t have plot , it is just a big mystery box
The scene with the car craah made me laugh out loud, it plays out in the most insane way.
That's a big closet.. (great video btw)
Great review 👏🏼
4:12 Not her friend, twin sister
12:01 we see multiple times they cook the food outside in the daytime. There was a fire and a bird cooking over it, in one shot.
Ahhhh yes. Very good. Sorry I missed a few details; I was in a shit-show cinema that had a group of obnoxious teens next to me and had to keep telling them to shut the fuck up. That’s why I also missed the line about the bird saying try not to die.
4:38 the bird learned it from her! That’s what she said to the bird before she went out the night before
Ahhhhhhh f*ck me lmao
I haven’t seen the movie yet, but finished the audio book last night. The book is more detailed and a bit different of course, creepy. It’s was 10 hours long (audio book). I sad alone in my parents living, which overlooked woods, from 11pm to 3am listening to the book - excited, yet creepy and scary I was.
I feel like I would have loved the book way more
Nepotism
I think some people really don't get the symbolism of this film. It clearly went over some people's head, and if you are more an absolute 'realist' and insist that all movies make '100%' to your world view, then your fooling yourself. Your world view is just as bad as anything in this movie, you just judge other peoples as worse', but don't have the skills, bravery, humility, courage, nor craftsmanship to make your own, so you judge others in your ivory tower.
I don't mind critics, and not everyone has to like everything, but the way you approach critics is so full of yourself, it's hard to imagine you ever creating anything but that which is 100% a reflection of yourself as the main character, because if they are one once different, the your not going to have any empathy for them, so you'd only be able make characters that are 100% the same as your world view. No room for differences, or 'errors'. When musicians play music, especially back in the 70's and eighties they would make mistakes, singing slightly off pitch because the speaker feedback on stage was off, because someone misses the timing etc. But those performances though not perfect were I think so much more full of life then the pitch corrected performances of today....
Yes this movie has some parts you must look past, suspend disbelief to go on the journey. Sometimes the journey is worth suspending the disbelief. But sadly most people are so used to being spoon fed, the ideas of reflection, self-hatred, being uncomfortable in your own skin, seem completely lost on every single reviewer who disliked the movie. And yea, if you can't understand the higher dialogue taking place, the the errors seems random and pointless, rather than filled with the life of a raw performance, writing, journey that both the writer and director have tried to take the audience on. Where you have to forgive the odd note, and look past it to hear the music of the spheres...
Having symbolism doesn't make a movie good. Also, I don't care for 'realism' I care for consistent plot / story logic. I like Lord of The Rings. That shit is so beyond reality.
you took this way too deeply / personally, don't come back to my channel, have a nice day!
@@Stark-CinemaIt is clear from your review you missed the themes of the film. And again that's not the issue, it's reviewing something before you have studied it enough to understand it. I think if you want to cut up Acolyte and not search for 'deeper meaning', or 'symbolism', I'm with yea. Cause that is the worst writing and directing possible, worse then a student film, cause at least student films have an excuse, but Acolyte is just unbelievable bad writing. But something like The Watchers, you know the writer of the original source material(book) had deeper themes he was exploring. Every scene in the movie is playing with this theme, even the reasons for her vaping, she can't stand being alone with her thoughts cause someone who is hating themselves, well that's the worse torture you can give them, especially when they have been living with it for a long time, they have by then found coping mechanism to deal with the pain, distraction, taking on other people's goals, etc.
So if you had shown you understood what the director was attempting, then I'd be ok with your review, but you just seem to be treating it at surface level, and missing the entire point of the book and film. It's like taking a poem at heart because it doesn't follow proper grammar. The entire point of this film is self choosen isolation for whatever reasons people do that to themselves, and it's a film about going through hell for her to transcend that. At least this is what the writer in interviews, and the director and actors talked about. About the envy that we all have of other people's lives being better than ours, that youtuber's life seems 'so perfect' and how we mimic those in a higher social standing we believe than ourselves, trying to 'mimic', etc. There is yes some issues, like it's hard to believe anyone professor could just kill hundreds of people in the name of 'science', and how the hell would that not be noticed, etc. It's not believable. But it doesn't really matter, sub in whatever you could believe, and it won't change the scripts themes, or ideas. If you want to not look past that, as I said, if you need per pitch, then can't hear what the muscians are going for. What Hendrix was trying to get to, etc.
And i explained my in context meaning of 'realism' as being whatever 'works for your own sense of 'believable', etc" ie of course that includes fantasy films, but you will hate some fantasy films because they don't reach your idea of what might be a believable 'consistent' world, based on your particular worldview. It's kind of an obvious point, and your choice of addressing that seems like trying to point to semantics rather then address the meat of the criticism, which is you didn't bother to understand the themes of the source material, and therefore what the film built a foundation from, etc.
@@Arrogan28 Please listen to the end of my review, I went over the themes clearly. Have a nice day my friend thanks for the comment.
The “try not to die” line was from when right before the main character left the bird alone to go out to a bar.
I’m sorry I missed that I was in a theater full of shit teenagers who wouldn’t shut the fuck up
@@Stark-Cinema lmao I know you’re pain. That’s why I try to go as early as possible. They want to be apart of the show so bad.
She must've thought riding her Dad's last name would lead to automatic success. Nepotism at it's finest.
Nepo baby movie
Watched this after watching.. you know what. Spot on review.
*Murder of Crows
Yea yea yea as long as people understand me lmao
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Are you reading the screenplay?
I’m reading my personal summary. Lmao. Sorry if you don’t like it. This video was specifically made for people who didn’t watch the film, if you read the title. Thanks and have a great day.
@@Stark-Cinema whoa, don’t misunderstand me, I’m not complaining. I like your summary and agree completely. I was just curious, it sounded like a screenplay.
@@BryanLChessI genuinely meant have a great day haha all good ❤
@@Stark-Cinema wtf 😂 they just asked a question and you went instantly defense mode
@@Mary1337 yes, I defended myself with an answer. That's how questions work. I even meant it, like have a great day. Damn the internet! lmao, thanks for the comment
Saw 😮it Monday truly bonkers 🤪