Responding to Rachel's Comments on Prescription Diets Part 1
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2023
- I felt it was important to respond to videos that describe veterinary therapeutic diets inaccurately. these diets have saved thousands of dogs and cats and will continue to, but it breaks my heart that many pet parents get confused by so much misinformation.
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Just a note: she is a human nutritionist, it is a tad misleading that she doesn't mention that, and her experience I believe in the pet food industry was/is working for a raw food company.
It’s so nice to hear someone who really knows and you can tell is educated enough to discuss dog food. Thank you for all of these wonderful videos.
Crystal, thank you so much for the encouragement. I really appreciate it. It’s actually been a blessing for me, which has come as a big surprise!
It’s so frustrating to deal with people who simply don’t know what they don’t know. I would never tell a human what to medically even through technically as a vet trained in primates I have more qualifications to do so, than a human nutritionist telling me what to do with species she has no formal training in. Shaking my head…
The majority of the food you and Glen review get a "thumbs down." You tell people to look for better food and many of us have decided that fresh, homemade, is better than most commercial pet food. For me it is an ongoing process. I was feeding commercial wet and dry food until Panda got sick. Things like grain or grain free, poor ingredients, nutrients, never occurred to me. The corporate owned pet food companies have brought this on themselves.
Another note to add here. What’s better for human babies? Natural breast milk, or scientifically formulated baby formula? Rachel definitely goes to extreme. But natural nutrients, are typically better then engineered nutrients.
Formula could never match Brest milk. Agreed. And if you have the passion to research and home cook or feed raw because you believe those natural ingredients are better, go for it! But if you want to use nutrition to manage most diseases, you are now depending on nutrition science! Hay! You can pay $40 a lb fir a therapeutic diet with si called real ingredients! It’s not as tested and proven as Hills but I’m assuming it’s formulated correctly. I’m not out here selling anything. No one is paying me! Lol!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Same exact principle. Kibble can never touch, fresh, natural food. Even more scientific research, goes into baby formula, then dog food. With all the scientific research, that goes into baby formulas. And they still can’t formulate something better. So how do you expect kibble formulas, to be as great as you say, when they have even less scientific knowledge on dogs, then human babies?
@@ZaryaTheLaika Your not telling me anything I don’t already know. But I fail to see your point. Just because most people feed their dog, cheap basic pourage, however you spell it. Doesn’t make kibble any better. I really don’t understand what your trying to prove. But I’m all ears, if you have any information I’m missing. My point is, properly sourced, and properly thought together recipes, of natural food, is better then kibble. Period. Regardless of how poor most people’s recipes are, regardless how kibble company’s manipulate ingredient panels. Kibble is NOT the best thing on this planet for dogs.
@@9hk38fBalanced that is the point. Kibble if feeding a WSAVA food is a complete & balanced food. Properly sourcing is great, but properly thought out doesn’t cut it. The majority of people feeding raw or even home cooked food are not feeding a complete balanced meal. *Unless* they have received & followed guidance from a DACVN.
@@lisak9594 Do you know the exact guidelines? They are a joke. Look them up. The term “balanced” for dog food, is a marketing scam. Yes, balance is good. But all dogs NEED, is meat.
I’m glad you’re dispelling the pet food myths. I got salmonella poisoning two times. Should’ve stuck with Dog Chow never any issues. Been feeding dog chow since 1980s.
I also did raw feeding and grain free diet specifically taste the wild yellow bag. That was the worst food for my dogs. They pooped mud pies in and out of the house. The hated the food too they did not want to eat it.
She thinks she is special. She thinks she knows more than the best minds in pet nutrition. She can be the poster girl for the Dunning-Kruger effect.
All pets are different. That is why there are 61 companies, making hundreds of different brands of pet food and treats. I started out feeding the usual suspects of commercial wet and dry food. Fancy Feast made one cat sick. Several brands made the other sick. I took them to a vet who never asked what I was feeding them. Never talked about diet at all. Thanks to people like Rachel Fusaro and Jess Caticles, my cats are healthy and thriving on a mostly homemade diet. Thanks to Glen and Dr. Rea, the occasional wet cat food I use is low in calcium and phosphorus.
I have never been to a vet that did not ask what I feed my animals be it a cow or a dog.@@edschulhof6303
@@edschulhof6303 well finally we can get back to disagreeing! Lol!I
I don’t see Rachel and Jess helping. They ignore nutrients, especially critical for risks of stones and kidney disease. That’s my whole point!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Colbie and Panda would disagree with you. They are happy and healthy thanks to what I have learned from Jess, you and Amber. And I thank you for that. It doesn't have to be either or. With homemade I don't have to worry about what is in or not in my cats' food. I have commented before about the amount of calcium and phosphorus in chicken thighs and ground beef. The Weruva wet food I feed them is lower in Ca and P than many Hills flavors. Cats being overweight (61%) (81% fed kibble) leads to diabetes, arthritis and risks of stones and kidney disease. "I'm listening" to many points of view.
All this fuss over 8% of pet owners. 81% of cat owners and 70-75% of dog owners feed dry most or all of the time. The others feed wet or a combination of foods. A survey by Pet Food Industry Magazine found that cost is the #1 determining factor in choosing pet food.
@@ZaryaTheLaika Vaccinating pets every year without a titer test is not doing them any favors. For cats, look up "injection site sarcoma." FVRCP vaccines are made using cat kidney cells. This can possibly reduce kidney function. Combined with feeding nothing but dry kibble is just asking for problems.
My dog didn't do well on raw,. It gave him diarrhea and made his reflux worse. I switched him to The Honest Kitchen and he did much better, but still issues with reflux. I quit watching Rachel because she pushes raw as the answer for every ailment your day may have. After watching your videos I went out and bought Science Diet kibble for him and I am crossing my fingers this helps with his sensitive stomach issues.
Good luck with your dog. This is how it should be. All pets are different. We do whatever is best for them.
@@edschulhof6303 thank you, so far today he is better!! No reflux, and he loves this kibble. I just have to keep doing it slowly, which is hard because he begs for it lol
In other videos, Rachel says she worked five years. To be fair, she does say up front, "“I’m not telling you to stop feeding your prescription dog food, especially if your vet recommends it. I’m just here to share what works best for my dogs.” Later she says, "I am not anti all prescription pet foods. But pet owners need to be informed on what is in the food." Rachel does use Medicus as a good alternative. Compared to k/d, Medicus is lower in calcium, about the same phosphorus, .38 v .33, both well under AAFCO max. The only nutrient where Medicus falls short (is high) is sodium. Bringing up the lawsuit was unnecessary. The biggest issue is dry food. Dry food became popular during WW2 because it was the only way to sell pet food. The only reason to use dry food instead of canned is owner convenience. If Hill's would push their wet food, a lot of the criticism would go away. I am impressed with your restraint.
Jeez Ed! Let me publish part 2 when I show everything you just commented on! Lol! I’m glad you’re impressed!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy I'm not clairvoyant. Just responding to this video. And my comments are more margin notes than argument. LOL
I love your channel but can you PLEASE just tell us what you feed your dog.
John, I’ve mentioned it in other videos but both my girls are on Science Diet Sensitive Skin and Stomach. I just had their blood work done and they are both perfect so sticking with that. I have fed nothing but Science Diet foods and been very happy. I have shown the healthier nutrient levels of a few Science Diet foods so I know it’s best. Of course I had the unique opportunity to be taught by the nutritionists that made those and other prescription diets. That’s why I stayed with the company for 34 years! Best job in the world!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy I should of mentioned my service dog is a lab she's 7 I have watched hours and hours of videos and read 100s of labels and still confused, I want to feed her the best that I could afford. can you help me with a senior dog food she's getting Orijen amazing grain now it's very expensive and hi protein. am retired like you and on a budget but will sacrifice for my dog. Maybe look at the best senior dog foods, I know you may not want to recommend one brand.
Thank you for your response and help.
In 2010, several hundred corn cobs were found in ancient Egyptian tombs. They had been preserved since at least 800 BC. Why would I feed something like that to my cats? LOL
That’s about as irrelevant as Air Force beating Navy! Lol!
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Where's your sense of humor? At least AF is undefeated. Army lost to LSU 62-0! LOL
@@edschulhof6303 oh shit!!!!
Lol!
@@ZaryaTheLaika "As for me and my house (cats included) we will serve the Lord" Joshua 24:15
Had me some corn gluten meal topped with powered cellulose for breakfast. Thanks to your videos I know I can eat dirt as long as it has nutrients. Saving me a ton of money that I was spending on real food.
Well, you actually could eat corn gluten meal and get quite a few nutrients and an effective non soluble fiber like cellulose would help you with your daily fiber needs! Not sure if minerals in dirt are bioavailable at all. But I appreciate you watching and your sense of humor.
Cats literally go outside and eat dirt out of free choice.....
Rachel does a great job on her channel having multiple veterinarian's whos been in the field for decades. She does good work
As I mentioned, I am impressed with her passion and commitment. But I cannot be silent when I hear some of the things she believes. I suppose she is no different than all of us, with our bias and experience.
She’s kinda crazy. She does misleading work, not good work. If nature is best, why do wild dogs live to be less then 5 years old on average?
One more thing to add. These prescription diets, are typically $100 for a 15 lb bag. And a lot of them contain, a lot of wheat, and corn gluten. Regardless of the benefits of corn gluten. These ingredients are very cheap to source. And yes, research and science cost money, I understand. But $100 for 15 lbs of kibble? And while backed by scientific studies, it is primarily composed of cheap ingredients. Yet cost's this much?
That is entirely true but I belief this has to do with companies getting back their into it after the pandemic. My dog was on the Z/D I believe and before 2020 was paying about 75-80 dollars a bag which was around 25-30 I don’t remember exactly and now it’s close to 120 I’m hoping after Everyone is back to normal it will go down again
Omg yes I was wondering when you would address Rachel… she seems like a great owner that really loves her dogs but she spreads sooooo much misinformation..
All of you are nice. I’m going to say it as it is: She is a liar. She can’t spread misinformation in this day and age when there are tons of scientific papers, textbooks etc unless she chooses to do so on purpose. I say that because she is a human nutritionist (although I don’t think she is a registered dietician but correct me if I’m wrong) so she should know all about nutrients and how they differ from ingredients yet she still plays the ingredient game.
Back in the day I subscribed to her because I thought she had some nice videos on dog behavior but I unsubscribed 10 mins later after watching her video on “overvaccinations”, another pseudoscience thing she keeps talking about. She just needs to stick to human nutrition which I don’t understand why she doesn’t.
@@ZaryaTheLaika I wish people stayed in their lane instead of embarrassing themselves online lol.
George, I try not to guess what’s in someone’s mind or heart. I just know the stuff she says is wrong and harmful to pets who are sick. I will continue to expose that as best I can.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy I know where you’re coming from.
I just despise it when people want to capitalize on the fact that people want what’s best for their pets, so they make videos spreading nonsense instead of actually doing something commendable.
You are both to extreme, on different sides. Rachel likes to pretend natural is ALWAYS best. And act like the wild, has the absolute best food selection. When in reality, dogs in the wild are sometimes lucky to eat at all. Let alone, what is absolute best. However, your idea that ingredients don't matter, is equally as ridiculous. The better the ingredient panel, the better the nutrient panel. The more chemically added nutrients, the lower the bioavailability. Natural nutrients, will always be absorbed better. With that being said. I will never understand why most people feel as if they need to pick a side. There are benefits to reap from nature/holistic's, and science.
I can agree with lots of what you said, but a better ingredient panel does not mean better nutrients. I have proven that in more than a few videos, especially if we are attempting to manage a disease. And when you add the fact that the minimum standards for most ingredients enables any ingredient to be excellent nutrients or horrible excesses, it leaves us really not knowing anything as far as quality. The best ingredient panel is one that has all the nutrients at optimal levels. That can include corn, corn gluten meal. Soybean protein, cellulose, etc…. All ingredients totally misunderstood by the all natural, raw, anti kibble group, influenced by folks like Rachel and the folks she listens to. For clarity, ingredients DO matter, but only with their bioavailability and the nutrients they deliver.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy I think you are missing the point. If you have good ingredients, you will have a good nutrition panel. Just because pet food companies, manipulate the ingredient panel. Doesn’t mean ingredients don’t matter. The ingredients, are where the nutrients come from.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Better ingredients 100% mean, a better nutrient panel. When I say good/better ingredients. I’m not talking about poorly sourced ingredients, that can look good on a panel. I mean legit, good, ingredients, will yield a better ingredient panel. Ingredients absolutely matter!
@@9hk38f absolutely agree. But that mix may very well include corn as a carb, soy as a protein source, corn gluten meal as a protein, powdered cellulose as a dietary fiber, etc! Yet those excellent ingredients are called low quality and even just fillers with no nutritional value. That’s simply not true.
@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Yes, but a variety of meats, is better for a dog. Then just chicken, mixed with other protein sources. Soy and corn gluten, are not going to provide the same amino acids, as mixing poultry and red meat. Nothing is a better protein/amino acid source for dogs, then meat. And brands like Hills, use corn gluten AS a protein source. It should be used to ENHANCE, the protein source. Hills has “chicken” as first ingredient. Followed by wheat, an already dry product. So after the chicken is dehydrated, there is MORE wheat, then chicken. Then corn gluten as ingredient number 3. So there’s probably about an equal amount of chicken, and corn gluten. When you consider the price of Hills. This is a rip off. You are paying for a bag of mostly wheat, and corn protein. I’m sorry, but this just isn’t right. And it’s very misleading. Wheat and corn, are some of the cheapest foods to source.
I fed my cat this so-called amazing grain free diet with human grade, whole food ingredients. Guess what? That cat died of heart failure, and she SUFFERED from chronic vomiting, acid reflux, coughing and extreme weight loss. These "species appropriate" diets consist of nothing more than liberal buzz words. It's disgusting and appalling, and they literally don't know what their talking about.
Puzzle Guy, you saved my current cat. Thank you 🙏
Thank you.
"Liberal buzzwords"?!? Now, THAT is funny!!😂
@@RipJewels that sad, heartfelt comment and you pick up on liberal buzz word? There’s probably another channel that would be more suitable for you.