+Josh Steffen like Marcus said yea that was really helpful and also I really liked your take on "headbangin" I never noticed that either.. very cool just to test I played your live version of "Battery" & yea right on the money BTW.. Yr version of Battery was INSANE my jaw literally dropped! As always, Ty for hour's of entertainment, learning tools & answering so many questions for me and all your fans it's ALL very much appreciated
Six years later and this video is still helping people like me trying to figure out a beat that was just beyond me. Just thought I'd let you know. Thank you.
Great point about the headbang moves guiding you. Something I pondered at times too. We bop to the bass beat in any kind of music most if not all the time.
I had the skank beat confusion in my youth playing drums too. It was Lars from Metallica, who all to often would play the beat the wrong way round, half way through a section, and the sometimes flip back again and sometimes not. Lombardo was perfect at it, and I just had to follow him to figure out what was going on. I am high on morphine pills right now due to broken knees, so I hope my message makes sense. But thanks goes to you for making this video, because I always had doubt about how the skank beat worked. Moellar system is the way too.
I think Lars did that intentionally though to change the feel of the song when he wanted to.. Lars is a lil more crafty than he gets credited for sometimes.
Really helpful stuff! Couldn't seem to get it right but after this video and 2 weeks of practice finally got it to a moderate tempo so I can play some classics from kill em all! Thanks man!
+Kyle Eaton (My Darling, Annabel) great to hear! Have a look at my playlists. I might have some other tutorials that interest you, as well as 700+ other vids. ;)
Thank you Josh, I've been watching your videos for about a year now, you've inspired me and helped my drumming out so much with amazing covers and tutorials like this, your definitely one of the best and most entertaining drummers on UA-cam, Thanks again ;)
The Moeller method, Moeller technique or whipping technique is a percussive stroke method that combines a variety of techniques with the goal of improving hand speed, power, and control while offering the flexibility to add accented notes at will. The method has been perceived in the drumming community as a secret method. It is considered difficult to learn and no consensus has been reached as to what this technique actually consists of... thank you once again Josh understanding how to incorporate two notes on a single stroke , down & up shows me a way to save time in making another stroke down....
Damn man this is EXACTLY what I thought a long ago. I realized the kick is the leading beat just by listening these kind of songs over and over It helps a lot when playing guitar o any other instrument
Good advice Josh! I figured out it was the bass drum running the beat also. I also figured out to go to the bell or go to china or crash to ride the swell of the crash with slower hand motions if my wrist gets tired. Or break my right hand down to 8th notes or quarter notes. What ever gives my left hand a break! Love your your channel Bro!
I feel like my comment is what made you do this video and I'm truly honored. And by the way, I just noticed that it was an odd technique but it worked. Rock on, man!! \m/
Awesome tutorial brother. I thought I pretty much had this technique down, but you just gave so many awesome tips on how to improve it, and picture it in your mind. Thank you brother, always enjoy your videos.
Learning different genres and stoked! About this video. I drives me crazy how much i can do in different genres and i get stuck changing things up. Just simply changing the way i think about drums helps me get better.
Thanks for the tips, man! All this time I've always use the snare as the leading beat for doing the skank beat and I always get a headache lol XD anyway thank you for making this video, it really helpful
Great video it really helped me thank you so much. When i followed you you had 600 subscribers. Now its 91.000 and İ always learn something from your videos. You never disappoint . Thank you again\m/
Just watched the after you advised me to after the new Metallica cover THANKS DUDE Been struggling for soo long with this. Now I can finally play more Metalcore songs because they use this beat soon much, THANKS!
This was a really helpful video and couldn't agree more with what you said during the 6- 8 minutes. the same applies to blast beats for example (that is really just a "doubled" skank beat)... I know a lot of people try to learn to sync for example right hand with right foot in the beginning, and then have the left hand fill the gaps in between. What I found way more useful is, that you start with 16th on the snare, again locking right hand and right foot (or also left foot if you play with both on kick) and then let loose the right hand and play 8ths on hi-hat or ride... then you go into the next "level" so to speak, maintaining alternating feet and left hand 8ths on the snare and just applying accents to all kind of cymbals you want with the right hand... straight 8ths of the blasts, but also 4th notes, triplets, whatever comes to your mind... then try finding back into the 16th single stroke roll on the snare or the 8th between LH on snare and RH on ride or hi-hat. It is tricky, but helps to stay in the beat, while isolating this "ground" beat while playing other stuff with your right hand on toms or cymbals.
pat yeebert I know this reply is super late but that would just be awesome. That song is so underrated and it the drumming is really hard in it! That would be so cool if he covered it.
awesome josh really enjoyed this tutorial thingy lol but still man i love your style so much because it's so similar to mine and whenever somebody asks me how i maintain the speed i usually can't explain i just have a technique and that's all there is to it 😁 but yeah man i totally do all these myself and always have since the beginning of my drummer life haha and to be honest the most helpful one imo is the wrist technique ya know the one with the bounce back of your forearm 😀 great video though dude thoroughly enjoyed
Hey ya bud? Yeah, yeah ha, realize that I'm on the late freight with this how to vid. I am such a rookie drummer and I take tools from anywhere I can. Your advice to this novice is so cherished my friend. I thank you!
@@xdfreaky9340 I also had the theory that maybe Lars just fucked up and played it reverse, but who knows lol. also when Aint My Bitch starts, you think it's going to be snare first but then that changes right away and you're like, wtf?. But there is so much punk about d beat and skank, but then in Death Metal, snare first also sounds badass at certain tempos. Like some Butchered At Birth songs I was also confused with Whiplash, thought it was snare first, because they played it faster on Live Shit, where I heard it first. When I heard the slower studio version, I was like, Fuck. I think sometimes Jason gets confused and sings over snare as downbeat but James is right on time.
DethronerX Lars’s weird kicking pattern doesnt really help either. But that snare first thing just fucks with me because its so fast and all i can hear is the snare hitting
I didnt know thatJeremy Renner is actually a drummer, I saw him playing with sticks in Avenger 2, but didnt know he has a yotube channel. Congratulations Jeremy, you're not only a great actor but a great drummer as well.
Coming back to this video to get my punk chops back in action. I can keep good beat and drive a great rock beat but my kick foot and high hat hand is not fast enough. Keep practicing. I like your technique to maintain
I'd say you did a good job explaining. Could you do a little demonstration for Slaughtered by Pantera some time? I have a hard time following how the paradiddle section goes between the ride and snare. Anyways, keep it up. I really like these tutorials.
I LOVE THIS..IF anyone has any old drums or practice pads let me kno going threw rough time and cant afford drums..so instead of throwing anything out please let me kno ill take anything..
Muchas Gracias Bro!!!! La manera que presentas el enfoque para entender y tocar este ritmo, solucionó un problema que no podía solucionar durante años, otra vez Muchas Gracias, suerte y bendiciones, sigue así eres un músico increíble, atentamente Rogelio Durán
I think this "whole-counts" ride cymbal or hi-hat method is what I need to perfect this beat at speed. I think my pedal's fixed radius cam also has a lot to do with a disconnect from the bass part as well; I just have the basic Pearl P-121TW but I'm going to increase my footboard height tonight and see if that helps reduce this dead-zone that I'm feeling from this cam design.
Those are great tips cause the help you keep the time as well!! Slayer beat \m/ lol!! Shit I would not of known the name either!! We are going to see you on Drumeo someday!!
Josh when you hold your sticks, you should keep your pinky on. It prevents you from like dropping sticks, and keeps the playing tight. But your technique and playing is really good man
Thanks for explaining this mate. It makes a lot more sense and has given me quite a lot to think about for the next time I pick up a set of sticks. Cheers mate. Congrats on making 90k + subs too. I remember I started following you when there was only just under 10 thousand of us. Well done. Oh yeah, still waiting for Killing Fields / Demanufacture though 😀
+Andrew Martin no, it's too slow and stiff on the album for me. It's hard to extract any pleasure from that version. Live, it's one of the greatest songs ever.
Hey Josh,I've only just discovered your channel and have been watching some of your medleys,which are fucking amazing! I would love to see you cover some Cloudkicker stuff at some point.
so useful, thanks you so much because now I learn so many tricks and its more easier to me play skank beat, greetings from Chile, YOU ARE FUCKING AMAZING!!
You explained the leading kick very well on the Fight Fire With Fire video and that's actually the moment I realized it, but the snare leading is still so damn stuck in my head I still can't play it (on guitar).
The motion you do with getting 2 hits out of 1 motion, is kinda like the Heel-Toe technique on your pedals. I noticed that these 2 things remind a lot of each other.
I can't find the words to describe how useful this was.
+Marcus Magnusson I'm glad it helps
+Josh Steffen like Marcus said yea that was really helpful and also I really liked your take on "headbangin" I never noticed that either.. very cool just to test I played your live version of "Battery" & yea right on the money BTW.. Yr version of Battery was INSANE my jaw literally dropped!
As always, Ty for hour's of entertainment, learning tools & answering so many questions for me and all your fans it's ALL very much appreciated
+Marcus Magnusson awesome tips
dude same lol
THE BASS DRUM IS THE EARTHQUAKE,THE SNARE IS THE AFTERSHOCK.YOU CANT HAVE AN AFTERSHOCK WITHOUT AN EARTHQUAKE!!DAMN I MISS MY DRUM SET.
That's a great analogy.
me too, buddy me too, haven't been able to play in weeks
Air drumming this at the bus stop. Your vids make me want to practice, you're awesome.
Were you in any band?
Six years later and this video is still helping people like me trying to figure out a beat that was just beyond me. Just thought I'd let you know. Thank you.
That's great to hear! I still wonder how some guitarists have a feel for it.
Dave Lombardo: King of the Skank Beat. You are the successor Sir!
@@oyc7946 no
Adrian Erlandsson maybe has the fastest skank beat. It’s almost a blast
Charlie benante
Per Moller Jensen
Josh you should consider playing something from Sodom or Kreator. My personal favorite thrash bands.
Kreator is my #1 band. They are absolutely amazing!
I've never had a face to face drum lesson in my life. But I would gladly pay good money to have Josh be my drum teacher. Love all you do man!
Great point about the headbang moves guiding you.
Something I pondered at times too. We bop to the bass beat in any kind of music most if not all the time.
I had the skank beat confusion in my youth playing drums too. It was Lars from Metallica, who all to often would play the beat the wrong way round, half way through a section, and the sometimes flip back again and sometimes not. Lombardo was perfect at it, and I just had to follow him to figure out what was going on. I am high on morphine pills right now due to broken knees, so I hope my message makes sense. But thanks goes to you for making this video, because I always had doubt about how the skank beat worked. Moellar system is the way too.
+ajwasp ;)
I think Lars did that intentionally though to change the feel of the song when he wanted to.. Lars is a lil more crafty than he gets credited for sometimes.
Lars basically makes Metallica ;)
Did you break your knees practicing skank beats?
Jerry Rose no. I broke my knees in a fall.
Really helpful stuff! Couldn't seem to get it right but after this video and 2 weeks of practice finally got it to a moderate tempo so I can play some classics from kill em all! Thanks man!
+Scott Borman awesome
Great lesson man, useful and to the point.
yes I agree
Every drummer having problems with skank beats should watch this video. Subbed bro
+Kyle Eaton (My Darling, Annabel) great to hear! Have a look at my playlists. I might have some other tutorials that interest you, as well as 700+ other vids. ;)
keep up the good work!
Thank you Josh, I've been watching your videos for about a year now, you've inspired me and helped my drumming out so much with amazing covers and tutorials like this, your definitely one of the best and most entertaining drummers on UA-cam, Thanks again ;)
+Alex Baker you are very welcome
Didn't understand a skank beat until now, thanks man
;)
you should do some more vids like this this really helped me as i am self taught and really just learn songs by ear and memorization
You the man Josh love how humble you are bro keep up the great drumming
The Moeller method, Moeller technique or whipping technique is a percussive stroke method that combines a variety of techniques with the goal of improving hand speed, power, and control while offering the flexibility to add accented notes at will. The method has been perceived in the drumming community as a secret method. It is considered difficult to learn and no consensus has been reached as to what this technique actually consists of...
thank you once again Josh understanding how to incorporate two notes on a single stroke , down & up shows me a way to save time in making another stroke down....
Great lesson man for all us thrash junkies! ;)
Damn man this is EXACTLY what I thought a long ago. I realized the kick is the leading beat just by listening these kind of songs over and over It helps a lot when playing guitar o any other instrument
Thank you, the whipping motion has changed my whole playing!
Thanks a lot man!!! I always struggling with this beat. Now at least I can start practicing your trick.
+Reza Kodok glad it helped
Your so sick at drums man
Good advice Josh! I figured out it was the bass drum running the beat also. I also figured out to go to the bell or go to china or crash to ride the swell of the crash with slower hand motions if my wrist gets tired. Or break my right hand down to 8th notes or quarter notes. What ever gives my left hand a break! Love your your channel Bro!
I feel like my comment is what made you do this video and I'm truly honored. And by the way, I just noticed that it was an odd technique but it worked. Rock on, man!! \m/
Foreskin lmao
+Jedithedrummer pretty much mocking George Foreman lol
dude literally u saying that the bass drum and the head line up i immediately got it it was insane ur the actual goat ty sm
Great! I'm glad it clicked!
Awesome man, I already did it the right way although I never had lessons on that, so thank you for the confirmation!
Awesome tutorial brother. I thought I pretty much had this technique down, but you just gave so many awesome tips on how to improve it, and picture it in your mind. Thank you brother, always enjoy your videos.
Learning different genres and stoked! About this video. I drives me crazy how much i can do in different genres and i get stuck changing things up. Just simply changing the way i think about drums helps me get better.
Yes indeed.
Great video man! No bullshit, no time wasting, very well explained. I'm sure a lot of us would like you to do some more! :)
This is very helpful, I've always had trouble with these, one of the problems I have is maintaining speed on the ride or hi-hat.
+Billy Whitaker same here. Just a matter of knowing what you can handle before getting a small break.
Thanks for the tips, man! All this time I've always use the snare as the leading beat for doing the skank beat and I always get a headache lol XD anyway thank you for making this video, it really helpful
60fps?! Your videos are looking clean as ever man, keep on keepin' on!
This helps a ton !
Thanks a lot Josh !
Cheers from France
Great video it really helped me thank you so much. When i followed you you had 600 subscribers. Now its 91.000 and İ always learn something from your videos. You never disappoint . Thank you again\m/
+tibet caglar thank you!
I swear by this ' couldn't agree more
Great video
Just watched the after you advised me to after the new Metallica cover
THANKS DUDE
Been struggling for soo long with this.
Now I can finally play more Metalcore songs because they use this beat soon much,
THANKS!
+JR my pleasure!
Found this so helpful for learning to play Adrian from At The Gates parts from Slaughter of the Soul. Cheers dude!
Yeah Blinded by fear came to mind as well
Also known as the Polka Bay Area
Yep, the Bay Area Polka.
I think I'm in the wrong class, but hell, I'm staying 'cause the teacher is bomb!!!
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btw, TRUST!!! :)
This was a really helpful video and couldn't agree more with what you said during the 6- 8 minutes.
the same applies to blast beats for example (that is really just a "doubled" skank beat)... I know a lot of people try to learn to sync for example right hand with right foot in the beginning, and then have the left hand fill the gaps in between. What I found way more useful is, that you start with 16th on the snare, again locking right hand and right foot (or also left foot if you play with both on kick) and then let loose the right hand and play 8ths on hi-hat or ride... then you go into the next "level" so to speak, maintaining alternating feet and left hand 8ths on the snare and just applying accents to all kind of cymbals you want with the right hand... straight 8ths of the blasts, but also 4th notes, triplets, whatever comes to your mind... then try finding back into the 16th single stroke roll on the snare or the 8th between LH on snare and RH on ride or hi-hat. It is tricky, but helps to stay in the beat, while isolating this "ground" beat while playing other stuff with your right hand on toms or cymbals.
+Luemm3l glad to hear!
do a video on tuning ur kit
one of best drummers on the world.
Please do Pantera - Where you come from. One of their best!
pat yeebert I know this reply is super late but that would just be awesome. That song is so underrated and it the drumming is really hard in it! That would be so cool if he covered it.
This was what i needed man. Thank you.
awesome josh really enjoyed this tutorial thingy lol but still man i love your style so much because it's so similar to mine and whenever somebody asks me how i maintain the speed i usually can't explain i just have a technique and that's all there is to it 😁 but yeah man i totally do all these myself and always have since the beginning of my drummer life haha and to be honest the most helpful one imo is the wrist technique ya know the one with the bounce back of your forearm 😀 great video though dude thoroughly enjoyed
Would you consider doing some megadeth covers???
no let the man do what he wants.....
Sleep walker or my last words
Hey ya bud? Yeah, yeah ha, realize that I'm on the late freight with this how to vid. I am such a rookie drummer and I take tools from anywhere I can. Your advice to this novice is so cherished my friend. I thank you!
+ALONZO PEARSON-YOUNGBLOOOD ;)
I thought I was about to hear some epic one drop, reggae beat LMAO. Nice work.
confusing for me was Fight Fire With Fire back in the days
And Metal Militia, man. In fact, they still are. :D
MaskedJackal87 lars technique is almost so bad it’s hard to replicate
Almost impossible to completly reprogram your Head to hear it right
@@xdfreaky9340 I also had the theory that maybe Lars just fucked up and played it reverse, but who knows lol. also when Aint My Bitch starts, you think it's going to be snare first but then that changes right away and you're like, wtf?. But there is so much punk about d beat and skank, but then in Death Metal, snare first also sounds badass at certain tempos. Like some Butchered At Birth songs
I was also confused with Whiplash, thought it was snare first, because they played it faster on Live Shit, where I heard it first. When I heard the slower studio version, I was like, Fuck. I think sometimes Jason gets confused and sings over snare as downbeat but James is right on time.
DethronerX Lars’s weird kicking pattern doesnt really help either. But that snare first thing just fucks with me because its so fast and all i can hear is the snare hitting
I didnt know thatJeremy Renner is actually a drummer, I saw him playing with sticks in Avenger 2, but didnt know he has a yotube channel. Congratulations Jeremy, you're not only a great actor but a great drummer as well.
Thanks for answering my comment with this video! Really changed my view on it!
Your the best drummer on UA-cam keep up the work seriously :)
Great tips.. hidden breaks are key.
Coming back to this video to get my punk chops back in action. I can keep good beat and drive a great rock beat but my kick foot and high hat hand is not fast enough. Keep practicing. I like your technique to maintain
Thank's for the tips man! Very useful !
I'd say you did a good job explaining. Could you do a little demonstration for Slaughtered by Pantera some time? I have a hard time following how the paradiddle section goes between the ride and snare. Anyways, keep it up. I really like these tutorials.
+cavegoat24 yes, great idea
Hey man, you really helping me out here! Thx a lot and keep on rocking 🤟
Very well explained Josh, you should seriously think about teaching!
josh! 99k subs, you're so close! its killin me:')
7 years ago, this is still useful
I LOVE THIS..IF anyone has any old drums or practice pads let me kno going threw rough time and cant afford drums..so instead of throwing anything out please let me kno ill take anything..
Muchas Gracias Bro!!!!
La manera que presentas el enfoque para entender y tocar este ritmo, solucionó un problema que no podía solucionar durante años, otra vez Muchas Gracias, suerte y bendiciones, sigue así eres un músico increíble, atentamente Rogelio Durán
I think this "whole-counts" ride cymbal or hi-hat method is what I need to perfect this beat at speed. I think my pedal's fixed radius cam also has a lot to do with a disconnect from the bass part as well; I just have the basic Pearl P-121TW but I'm going to increase my footboard height tonight and see if that helps reduce this dead-zone that I'm feeling from this cam design.
Very informative and helpful, thanks
You should really cover some Black Breath. Badass band!
Those are great tips cause the help you keep the time as well!! Slayer beat \m/ lol!! Shit I would not of known the name either!! We are going to see you on Drumeo someday!!
Great snare sound
Josh when you hold your sticks, you should keep your pinky on. It prevents you from like dropping sticks, and keeps the playing tight. But your technique and playing is really good man
Thanks for explaining this mate. It makes a lot more sense and has given me quite a lot to think about for the next time I pick up a set of sticks. Cheers mate.
Congrats on making 90k + subs too. I remember I started following you when there was only just under 10 thousand of us. Well done.
Oh yeah, still waiting for Killing Fields / Demanufacture though 😀
+Lee Hunt appreciate it, man!
I like your accent. XD
Either Minnesota or Wisconsin. Definitely Great Lakes with a touch of Upper Midwest. I am a Great Laker myself.
@@ericellis2729 He sounds a bit Canadian.
Minnesota and Wisconsin have similar accents to Canadian people
Can you review on how to play the "BootCamp-Bootycamp-Bootcamp-Bootycamp" Drum beat? Thanks :)
The other thing to think of. Finding the right drum stick size and weight that works for you.
Excellent tutorial.
Love this vid as well as your others, I would love to see Children of the Damned soon. Your videos are flawless and I wish you the best of luck!
+Andrew Martin good idea. Invaders would be fun too.
Classic! Could splice in some double bass in both classics. Hope to see them soon!
Last thing, Have you covered Hollowed be thy Name yet?
Thanks!
+Andrew Martin no, it's too slow and stiff on the album for me. It's hard to extract any pleasure from that version. Live, it's one of the greatest songs ever.
Josh Steffen I see, do you have a set list of songs your gonna cover, or do you do cover at random? Like what ever is in your head that day?
+Andrew Martin I have a bunch of songs on an mp3 player but it's still pretty random. It depends how ambitious I am and how much time I have.
thanks brother!! ;) very awesome apreciate it!
Hey Josh could you do a video on blast beats since I really need help with those I can do them but not long at all!
+Peter Suriner me neither
+Josh Steffen Lol ;)
Adopt a lighter grip
Peter Suriner for me its really hard to keep up a traditional blast beat, its just really confusing
Hey Josh,I've only just discovered your channel and have been watching some of your medleys,which are fucking amazing! I would love to see you cover some Cloudkicker stuff at some point.
+Jeremy Butterfield thanks
Thanks for sharing dude :D
so useful, thanks you so much because now I learn so many tricks and its more easier to me play skank beat, greetings from Chile, YOU ARE FUCKING AMAZING!!
Glad to hear!
Good tips. Thanks
Thanks, very helpful! Please, tell what is your cymbal set in this very video. Thanks again!
You explained the leading kick very well on the Fight Fire With Fire video and that's actually the moment I realized it, but the snare leading is still so damn stuck in my head I still can't play it (on guitar).
+BergmanMusic I don't know how guitarists do it.
very helpful .. thankyou josh :D
"kill em til you can't" by Anthrax. Man, that would be much appreciated if you could tackle something that fun. ;)
Fight 'Em 'Till You Can't* :)
+MegaThrasher95 thanks lol. I feel so stupid now. ha
+xVIPgaming lol don't worry. It happens to everyone :p
this lesson helped me a lot? thanx dude
fuck yes you fixed that particular problem in my drumming
Glad to hear!
you ever gonna do any drum-throughs of albums? like that dude that did and justice?
+Lewe :) That would awesome but very strenuous work!
+Lewe :) I don't think he'd be able to do AJFA because Dyers Eve at the end. But he should definitely do MOP
love your vids. makes me want to buy a kit!
Please do more of these
Tutorial for Slipknot Psychosocial would be awesome!
Dead memories from slipknot please?
dead memories drum cover plis
Yonatan Kalis fuck yes!!!!!!!!!!!!🤘
very helpful video thank you
The Bay area polka.
Nice tip
Layoff the whiskey brother. Great tutorial btw
Thanks man this reallly helped!
+Freddy Tkach excellent
Amazing
thanks for these tips! my band wants me to play a skank beat at 110 bpm... OMG... 100 is already pretty fast phew
Steve asheim nails them good
The motion you do with getting 2 hits out of 1 motion, is kinda like the Heel-Toe technique on your pedals. I noticed that these 2 things remind a lot of each other.
+AC GAMER correct, but I can't do the heel toe.
Josh Steffen Me neither, hahaha. It's very hard to master that technique.