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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
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I just built my first modern PC. My dad has been building and programming for 40 years and i recently lost him. One of the things we wanted to do together was build one again together since his brain wasnt what it used to be. So i started watching you and some others to get back up to speed from when i was a teenager. Sadly, i lost him before we got to do that, so after i packed up his house i decided to go straight to microcenter for my first time. This was my first ever full build including selecting and buying my own choice of hardware. I think the thing came out absolutely beautiful. I did research for about a year and a half and got it to post on my first try. Im really proud of this build, and I could not have done it without your videos, and a few other influencers. I wish my dad was here to see it. He would have loved all of the lights and nonsense... haha god he was so old school. Ty for everything that you do. Im still learning how to set this thing up for max performance. This thing is an absolute BEAST of a machine.
Sorry for your loss, i hope that you are doing well, congratulations on your pc, im sure your dad would be very proud❤️
Same here,jay2cents..jason..kl gamer like youtubers helped the novoice guy like me built 1st pc.
It's really easy afterwards once you passed that stage.
Also,Pray for your dad & R.I.P🙏
Thank you both for the kind words. ❤️
Hope each day is gets a little better. I lost my Dad a few years ago. Lost grandparent in 1983-85 and 1992. I’ve been near death or maybe better said death has been a part of my life since my earliest memories. For years it was just people I didn’t know or who I had met but never got close to. However when my mothers parents died in 1992, I was living with them and much closer to them than my parents. I still miss them. A very important part of my life was gone all in a 3 month span.
My grandfather and I made scale models together. The very first one we made was a 1:72 Sopwitb Camel fighter plane. It’s memories of doing things together that are most important when loved ones pass on. I still remember sitting in my grandfathers lap at his desk in Riverside California 1972.
I am very sorry for your dad,hope you enjoy the pc you built.
"New stuff coming out is not gonna make your PC suddenly stop working. All that's changed is the ceiling." That's hella comfortable. It really is comforting to see because all you see are people just getting the baddest and greatest of builds. For us midrange, or even budget gamers, we just want a PC that runs on decent FPS on older games because we never had the time or the hardware to play with them before.
For the average pc gamer anything built with modern gen parts will last years before you have to upgrade. Granted you dont get the bare minimum at the start. Spending a bit more on parts at the start will save you in the long run since you wont have to upgrade to maybe a new cpu or graphics card.
i have a ancient i5 4460 4c/4t and was looking for upgrade,right? Thats 4th gen cpu,and i was looking for 8 gen upgrade,maan,just waste of skin..they have same core count and base frequency but costs 10x more,like..why to pay more and still have the same? And just sheere amount of different intel cpu-s w 2% more capability in between hits the prices up high..way to high..thats not tech,its just clever marketing and fraud to bunch of who doesn't know much of this stuff..
1080 res, 30fps, around 2010±'s games are just enough for me
I just spent $1599 & after I put it together nothing works, best brand PSU plugs of poor quality, big brand sale monitor, motherboad & Intel CPUs No Signal, Red Led Lights on VGA for i5 12600k w/ onboard video? My most expensive build & nothing but RGB lights work? WTH
@@wiz3905 dude that sucks HARD. Hope you got it running. No shame in seeking a professional and getting some help (they might have some equipment that you don't have that will help find the problem). Hang in there - hope you get your new baby running soon!!!
After 2 years of waiting out the pandemic, so glad that I’m finally going to build my first ever PC this October. Was a long wait but finally feels worth it.
any chance you can build it on October 5th? it would be cool if you can build your first ever pc on my birthday🤣 no joke tho I would like it if you could
@@deathdrop what are you trying to say
Good things come to those who wait, I guess. I originally planned to build a PC back in 2016, ended up late 2017. We all know 2017 Ryzen.
@@shahrililhan2354 no clue just want some random person on the internet to build their first pc on my birthday🤷♂️
The new 4090 comes out in November though
11:02 You hit the nail on the head. I have a huge love hate with finishing the build. The research, planning, layout and assembly is what I enjoy most.
"They keep getting wider, but not necessarily taller" Aren't we all...
lol good one
That's what she said!
@@mitchanderson8154 choad!
Not me since I ain’t American ;)
Bahahahaha! Omg yes, so true
I love how you still appreciate that $1500 is a lot of money
as if people expect $1000 and above is the norm today
My PC is at least $2500, and its 5 years 1 month old. 2017 everything was expensive, RGB ram, Ryzen 1700, Vega56. Kinda like DDR5 now, x670, Ryzen 7000, Rtx4000 soon.
Yea man that’s a whole paycheck if I work overtime. 100hrs in 2 weeks
@@rampageblizzard Sounds like you need a new job.... I can work 3 12's and make half that NET before Time and a half... lol
@@achaosg Well done bro, go buy yourself some tact.
Just followed your advice. Super happy with my 5000 build in 2022. $1500 went so much further than I thought it would.
This is exactly what I needed , I was nervous as I’m a first builder / pc owner and was very confused and kinda lost but with this I’m confident to get my budget build 😊 thank you ♥️
🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
@@itisfreak weirdo.
@@Samanthnyaa weeb. Get laid
@@itisfreak damn basing your personality on sex, must be the most abnoxious, plain person ever. I've gotten "laid" before, not that I need to explain myself to you.
@@Samanthnyaa loser
Me who's already built one: Yes I'm ready.
im not giving 500 dollars for a mobo..It will cost 3 times the amount at the moment..fuk that
Obviously this video isn't meant for you. Derp.
@@SpaceRanger187 Agreed !
2 for 2022 ? Sure lol
Im waiting for the new gpus to see if they are good value
I pride myself in prolonging tech for as long as I can before upgrading. That also makes it feel massive whenever an upgrade is done.
It‘s awesome, isn’t it? I’m finally gonna replace my old 5820K within the next months. It did a great job for more than 8 years.
So much pride and accomplishment
I had an Intel 7400 and a Gtx 760 till a couple years back. Now, 12700 and a 3060ti with a 1440p panel. Just so much better.
I switched to Windows 10 only bc I was dumb enough not to read the specs of the new motherboard that I bought, which required at least Windows 10 to run. I wanted to use Windows 7 :(
Well, I'm broke AF so it isn't a choice for me but I'm really looking forward to upgrading from my 2008's Intel Pentium E5200 in the future 😆
the best video i have seen from you so far. not only you hit right my needs as im now building my second-ever pc after at least five years, but the way you presented it. perfect, and honest. thank you!
First time doing my own build rather than someone else getting me setup. Your videos have been immensely helpful. Thank you.
I've been a life long "behind the power curve" builder/user, always getting 1 to 2 generation older parts new and below MSRP. This has undoubtedly saved me a good amount of sanity over the last few years and I am grateful for it.
Dude same! But last month i decided i held off for too long on my main rig and bit the i9 bullet.
Sanity is worth a lot more than money. I'd rather buy the current thing now and know it's gonna work smoothly than have the absolute best super new tech and have to bash my head against the inevitable early adopter problems and bugs. I want my computer to just work. Not have to fight it day in day out just to have the ability to brag I've got the best thing out there.
Until my 11700K/3080 system I'm on now I almost never upgraded CPU and RAM, I ran a Core 2 Quad Q6600 until 2016 then picked up an i7-2600 plus motherboard and RAM for dirt cheap. All I'd do is plop in a new GPU every 3 years or so and keep on going, 2-3 generation old GPUs don't cost much at all--from 2008 to 2021 I think I spent under a grand on my gaming PC.
@Ar Kay QATech The 1080 Ti hangs with the 3060 Ti, as long as you don't care about ray tracing or 4K I'd stick with that card until the market chills out some more
@Ar Kay QATech I hear ya, honestly I think ray tracing is great for stills but if you're moving around and doing things you hardly notice. Certainly not worth the performance hit. My old eyes don't see things like they used to, I'll rock my hardware until people question how I get by before upgrading.
Might I add one more point...
The benefit of buying last gen platform - all kinks have been ironed out by the time the new stuff comes out. I am sure that ZEN4 platform will have bugs that would take at least a few months to resolve, while ZEN3 is relatively bug free now. So, if you need a stable system, go for last gen.
I apply this same philosophy to buying consoles. I got my ps4 in 2018 (found out about red dead 2 while looking up a guide on rdr 1 and that did it for me) not long before ps5 came out and the slim model had none of the lauch model hardware issues (although, the ps4 probably had the best launch in terms of overall quality but I digress).
Yup...good advice. I've waited over 8 years...and bought into the best and most mature of the AM4 boards and chip etc. I know it'll last me another 8 years...
LMAO What?! That's the silliest thing I have ever heard.
@@dakrawnik4208 Tis true...ever since I got stung on being an early adopter of AM2....driver and config issues....always the same with each new generation .
@@dakrawnik4208 No it isn't. Being an early adopter of new tech sucks
Even as a techie it’s always nice to recap on information and even learn a few new things. Looking to put together a new system this year. My current one is about 5 years old.
Great segment Jay. I recently did some maintenance on my parents 10 year old i7-3610QM AIO. Move everything to an SSD, refreshed the thermal paste and have it a good dust out and it keeps ticking with Windows 10. They need a new one but it is amazing what a good spec from 10 years ago can do today. A moderate upgrade with an i5 12600K or Ryzen 5800X would probably go another 10 year’s.
Thanks Jay! I plan on building my first system this fall and this video has done a great job in addressing some of my concerns and questions. You and Paul are doing a super job keeping us newbies from making major mistakes as we learn. Thanks again!
on the budget end of awesome gaming PC Build that can literally play all games up too date, Intel is BACK !!! i3 10100F 95$-125$, 16gb 3000mhz Gskill Aegis 65$ dual channel, B460m or Z490 MSI or 100$-145$ ASUS , Asus Dual 1660 super or RTX 2060 220$-350$ , Corsair TX 650 bronze or silver or Gold 80+ 80$-120$ , cheap case with airflow your choice , 1TB m,2 TimeTec or Silicon Power 80$-100$ . and you have a solid mid tier gaming PC that beats any PS5 or Xbox !!!! and with this platform you have room for upgrades too 11th gen intel with pcie express gen 4 and headroom for a better GPU in the future .. this right now is the BEST Combo too date rgb fans and a better cooler are extras you can add on for cheap ... intel 12th gen and ryzen 7000 is nice and all but for a majority of gamers right now what i stated does the job exceptionally well and kicks arse ..
Just going to say this “I appreciate and love you man” for real. You taught me a lot and break it all down so simply and for anyone to understand every video. Keep of the great content and videos.
Thx Jay! I was debating on what components to buy and almost bought a $1.5K rig for playing Minecraft and Valorant😅. After applying your advice I toned it down, found some deals, and payed $800 for a rig worth ~$1.2K! Now I’m rocking a Red Devil 6600 XT at 97% usage with shader mods on Minecraft.
Now that you have a gaming PC, it opens the doors for being able to play new games you couldn't run before, and sooner or later you'll end up buying 1.5k in components lmao
Getting ready to build my first PC after years of just buying laptops. I've been watching many hours of your videos here on UA-cam, thanks for all your hard work, it really helped demystify the process.
I think your advice is spot on! Bravo, and thank you for saying it. I've been using computers for over 40 years (first one was TRS-80 model I), and I've built my share. I've decided an Eluktronics Prometheus XVII, 5800H, 3080, 16GB, 1TB NVMe is the best for me. I've also parted up a Home Server recently for $550, and it's no slouch...5600G, AsRock A520-ITX/ac, SN570 1TB NVME, 32GB 10ns access 3200 PC4 DRAM, Core V1 case, EVGA 500W 80+Gold. I start with Passmark CPU Value chart usually, and the 5600G is stuck near the top consistently...the best price/performance with a built in GPU (Vega 7?) you can get. If I were building a gaming PC, I'd use a 5600 or 5600X.
One thing I'd love someone (you, Linus, GN, etc) do is branch out into other-purpose PCs than games. I've seen Linus build servers, but they're huge and I cringe when I see what he chooses to build. I cringed on your recent build too, like when you had to replace drives. I'd love to see a home server, DIY NAS, home security server (w/ and w/out video capture), as well as small- or medium-sized business servers, like a ProLiant DL380 size server.
But, that might be a lot to take on. You are in a better position to do it, because you like to give sound advice to new builders, and you know the uber builder scene as well. This video is a perfect example. You're giving good advice without any condescension in your voice. That's huge.
Id love to see that too
Don't hold your breath. Branching out costs time and money and he's a game guy.
@@dakrawnik4208 no m8 ppl that watch this are gamers. jay is razor, by gamers for gamers. GN is dead in the water they talk shit and post streams of pointless numbers, and he has no idea about half the shit he does recently, a bit like louis Rossman. Linus is great at diversification ( 15M+ subs will do that) but most mortals cannot afford nor would we ever need to do what he does
I am going to be honest. Branching out really into building servers is really not worth it other then a video every once in a great while because the hardware and design are not the same. When you start talking about true servers like a dl380 (I remember the gen 1 and 2s back when they were Compaq. I loved those boxes. So much better the the HP monsters and the IBM Xservers back then. Amazing how quickly both changes their design to match them), you are talking about a different level in computing. Building a home server with desktop equipment is cheap and easy. There is no special requirements to build a system to run as a nas or a home server. You just need to have the power for it to do what you want it to do.
Building a server to match a backend system like the dl380 or a 3650/3850 (lenovo servers on that level) is on a different price level and outside of the vast majority of home user's wants or needs.
So here I am watching this on my main PC that I built... 14 years ago :)
Core 2 Quad Q9450 with 8GB or ram, SSD main drive and a GTX 750 Ti.
I'm itching to build a new PC just for fun, even though I really don't have a need for one - like you said, as a hobby thing.
Subscribed to keep up to date on all the next gen components coming out.
Thanks for the good advice.
I'm still using a similar system, it has never let me down and does everything I need for over a decade, but I'm seeing all the new components coming out and it is really entincing. The possibilities are way greater than ever
thank you jay you put it in perspective for me as well as watching pauls video im happy with my pc right now and ill be grateful to upgrade in the future without worrying about being out of date thank you.
You had me nailed to the wall in the first minute. This video is for me. Now I'm going to watch the rest of the video and consider how I'm going to build my first pc. Thx Jay!
A little late to this video, but thank you. This made me feel alot better. Im in the process of building my first PC. I have my PSU, CPU, GPU, and tower cooler. Everything else is picked out just trying to fit purchasing them in with my other obligations. This channel is great, a literal wealth of knowledge.
I appreciate this video very much just got all my parts for my first ever build and was worried about the new stuff coming out. This definitely puts me at ease so thank you.
If you worry about new computer parts, your life will be misery. Just don't. Your system is top tier for a short while if you buy top tier stuff. Then something new comes along.
Ordering the last of my PC parts tomorrow and I'm so excited to be building my first build. The amount of times I came back to this channel for tips and tricks about the PC world is insane. Thank you for creating a new hobby for me that I actually don't mind torturing my wallet for lol appreciate your videos a ton keep it up! See you in the next one
I’m a few parts away but I feel you dude I’m getting sooo anxious to get everything else 😱🫠
That’s great man! Hope you enjoy
After the PC boot for the first time ! Is like your child first cry … I finished building mine 3 months ago … best decision ever to build my gaming pc .
@@santiagoperaza967 I have my case, motherboard,gpu and psu still need fans ram memory cpu & cooler plus a couple rgb power cables but my birthday is next Saturday so I’m hoping some family or friends gets me some gift cards or something to get a couple parts
@@JuicyBrisket good luck ! I hope you can finish your pc soon enough but in case it take you longer don’t worry building a PC is not a race but a marathon … take your time to pick the right parts for your build .
U goddamn right with a 10 year lifespan for a system. Recently upgraded from i7-2600 8GB 1333 GTX 550Ti to R5-5600x 32GB 3600 RTX 3070 for under 1000€ and I think this will serve me for the next 10 years
I've been watching a lot of your videos lately to try and get to know more about building a pc.
I'm going to build my first system this winter. Currently waiting to see the prices of the r5000 series to go down a bit and hopefully the radeon 6000 series as well.
It's because of your videos that I feel comfortable choosing the ryzen 7 5700x, I wouldn't even know it existed if it wasn't for your videos. So thank you so much for guiding new people through this, you have no idea how helpful it is to get slapped in the face with "you don't need that" while most tech channels only conplain about more budgetfriendly parts
Thanks man. I've been wanting to build my first PC ever for a few years now. I was financially capable just as the prices blew up. Then I hurt my back and have been stuck at home killing my savings wondering what I'm gonna do for a living next. Watching you has convinced me I wanna learn computer science and build computer systems. I'm currently trying out console streaming, and suck at it. But I'm have been exploring my options to get a computer science education and start a new career. I used to be a truck driver by the way, so the change is pretty big for me. Anyways, my whole point is that I was trying to figure out the cheapest build I can do to get a good console stream and also be able to play AAA games at 1080p high settings. I play on an Xbox series x that I was lucky to buy at msrp a year ago, but wish to play some Sony titles that are releasing on pc finally. Again, back to the point. Your video today just brought me back to my senses. I just can't afford to join the pc world right now. Even at the low end. I hope to find some training and a nw career soon. Thank you for making sense man.
Technically you can get the cheap ass version of the steam deck. Or shop around on the used market.
Walmart has an HP Pavilion with a 3060 for $650 right now with mouse and keyboard included. There's not many options for future upgrades but just the graphics card alone cost $400 and you're getting everything but a monitor.
HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop, Intel Core i5-10400F, Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Windows 11 Home, Black, TG01-1183w $649.00
I just built my 1st pc and here are the specs. 5600 CPU, Intel m.2 1Tb ssd Hd, 550 Pro motherboard, 3060 Gpu, case, 3 fans, 16gb 3200 hz ram, 750 watt PS and a new 24" 144 FPS gaming monitor for around $1200 and it has no problem keeping up with whatever I want to play. Mainly play Apex and I probably average 130-140 FPS and that is with OBS streaming and a couple of other programs running. I couldn't be happier with what I chose. Hope this helps!
Thank you all for your responses. I will consider the advice given. $650 doesn't sound bad. I will definitely look into something like that once I can afford it again. For now, my living expenses have been prioritized over this kind of purchase right now. As soon I get back to making an income and accumulate the funds, I will be joining the pc community. Thanks again.
@@noobpappy Hopefully things will get better soon. Have a good day.
Man, i've always been a pc guy, but last gen i've chosen to go console, now almost 8 years later i'm back to pc and building a new machine, your channel has been refreshing to me and brought me back the joy of learning about hardware again, thank you and! Peace!
About to build my first PC! Great tips! Can’t wait to watch more of your videos!
Honestly so pleased we have Jay in the computer/gaming/build world, everything in media or gaming worlds is always pushing the premise of "You need these high end products to stay relevant" the newer builders definitely need the insight of good products within a budget and not think their dreams are unatttainable based on cost factor even for someone who doesnt game, i have an interest in computers and slowly trying to upgrade what i have for the photography business ive been running for the last 12 months, i still have to do most of my editing on a laptop cause of budget. so this outlook of you dont need the very best is pleasing to see for the upcoming generation
I can't think of any serious folks in computer hardware media that push that.
@@Matt-gf4gd So Linus doesn't exist?
He literally Just Made a Video titled "you want that" with the threadripper.
I Like Linus but He definitely aint pushing the "don't Stress to hard" train IMO.
@@Bossfightmedia did you watch that video? I just did actually... And he basically explains how it makes no sense unless you're a high end workstation user for professional workloads. They all use click baity titles and stuff to get views, but he ain't recommending no threadripper to any consumer PC builder, but he can't just make videos to only be viewed by .01% of the PC hardware consumers.
For a home build. A 3060ti, 5600x, 650watt psu, any b450 mobo, 3000 generic ram, sata ssd, and you have a pretty solid build for under 1000 bucks that you can game on in high fps in 1080, and for photo editing and it will do a fantastic job (overkill actually) but you'll be set for a very long time.
You most likely spent 1.5x more on the laptop than you would have needed to on a tower lol
Sticking to a budget (with 10% buffer) really helps you decide on the components you're gonna buy. Built my first PC last 2020 around an AMD Ryzen 3300x, A520 Mobo, and a gtx 1660 and still rocking it today...Finished Witcher 3 a couple of times at 1080p High settings and got around 60+ fps average..I think I'll be good 2-3 more years with this rig hehehe
Wish I had a mate like you to relay on for any future planned builds etc - thanks for all the vids I watch as many as i can.
Thanks, Jay! I build a new system approx. every five years. I start researching a few months out for specs, compatability, etc. Reviews such as this are of value to a new or veteran builder.
Fair winds and following seas to all.
"Back at you"! 🇺🇸 😎👍☕
Semper Fi!
friendly advice ddr5 on intel z690 is really bad unstable big stability and memory errors, I hope x670 will have learned from intel but until people start reviewing and posting about how ddr5 works on it I would not look at a ddr5 system, its complete beta test currently it would not survive military testing ;)
@@mikekrawczyk1197 Semper Fi, Jarhead!
@@1steditiongamer276 Semper Fi, Jarhead!
Good information in this video. ddr4 b die is still pretty pricey compared to all the hynix and micron sticks and cost becomes relative. I was trying to build a ddr4 rig and ddr5 hynix m die ended up being the cheaper option compared to dual rank ddr4 b die for the more aesthetic choices of ram. None of that matters to most consumers, especially if they don't care about rgb and just buy the cheapest b die like the no rgb patriot sticks but, it's something to think about.
I got notified of this video and at just the right time. I've been building my very first pc since last January due to illness and just everyday bills. I'm planning to get my gpu this Friday and this video really helped me realise I'm doing everything right so far :D thanks so much
Working on my first build at the moment posted to Reddit and I got alot of help on picking parts and budgeting and recommendations
I recently changed from a i7 2600 to a r7 5800x, big difference, but can't say that my i7 wans't able to run the latest games, it just wasnt as smooth, is incredible how hardware somehow stay relevant throught the years.
Might want to double-check your statement 15:20 that Intel 13th gen will be "DDR5 only". At least, an Intel 13th gen CPU is pin-compatible & will still work with a 12th gen DDR4 motherboard.
That comment did not age well. Intel never said anything of the sort, and now for 13/14 both DDR4 and DDR5 are compatible. Do you also know that 12, 13 and 14 are fully compatible with Win 10?
Well Jay, thanks to this video, I began a journey not into building a PC from scratch. But rather converting an old HP into a modern sleeper rig.. I've referenced a lot of your videos along the way. Stay tuned
Awesome video, I just decided to upgrade my gpu,cpu and ram..I did tons of research beforehand..upwards of 10-15 hours of videos and forums etc to figure out what i should buy and you basically just told me everything i learned in a 20 minute video!
I think the advice about what games you play is really underrated. When I first built my PC I THOUGHT I was going to play all the triple A games, but I just ended up playing indie games or MOBAs. Really take a moment to understand what your use case is.
Hi, Jay! I just built my first computer this week and your videos helped a lot. Got a little stuck plugging the front connectors to the motherboard but I got through it! I bought an i3-12100 because I haven’t decided what GPU I want yet but I’m already using it for work and some gaming (very light games). Thanks for all the good advise! Both for the hardware and software side of things.
I'm putting together a budget 1080p gaming system this week around the i3-12100F, my GPU choice is the RX6600. If you're playing in 1080p, and on a budget, this card can be had for $250 USD or less, and offers really good 1080p performance. It's also very power efficient. I'm upgrading from a AMD FX-4300 based system, so this is going to be massive for me. I think the FX-4300 came out around 2012... so basically a potato nowadays. Waiting for my PSU, and then I'm off to the races. I built my first system over 20 years ago, and have built many systems for friends/family, and the sense of accomplishment when you're done never gets old! Happy building! Enjoy your new rig!
Good topic and advice Jay, there will be so much hype soon on the new hardware and what it will do... but bottom line is exactly where you started... what games do you play and what monitor do you own or will upgrade too.... that is SPOT on.. the rest will fall into place as you explained.
I needed this, thanks from KSA 🙏🏽
I'm building my first right now and it's a monster. Waiting on fittings since I sent back the 16mm ones and realized the bending radius is too large (I went through an entire box and got two usable tubes out of it). In any case I'm using this rig for Unreal and Blender rendering so I went high end: Corsair 7000X/D case, Asus 3090ti with Phanteks waterblock, Ryzen 5950X, 128gb/3600 Ram, Asus Dark Hero 8 mobo, 2x Samsung 980 pro 2TB M.2's Antec 1300 watts and EK/Phanteks/Primochill custom loop. I went with the highest end everything, even got a couple 20TB HDD's with space for more. I'm about $6K deep after some serious bargain hunting, I only paid $200 for the M.2's but the RAM was $700. A year ago this computer would cost $15,000. If your watercooling then the stuff coming out in a few months won't matter if you can't get waterblocks for anything. I'll do a 7950X 3D/4090ti rig in a couple years when blocks are available and I'll need a second work horse. New tech coming out doesn't mean current gen is a paper weight. My build is one of the most powerful computers you can buy today, that;s going to change very little a year from now. If a current build can beat up Blender and Davinci now it will still be the case years from now.
Great system!
When I first got a PC about 5 or 6 years ago which was given to me, most of the games I played ran around 10 to 20 fps. Bought myself my first gaming PC, and most of the same games that I played on my old PC run around 60 fps
Im glad you made the decision to upgrade from a handheld tetris.
Man, growing up a bit and having a job can really lead to an improved PC..
@@michaeldavis9772 I just wanna know who gave our boy a gameboy and told him it was a pc.
Love this video so much. Keep up the good work speaking to the average joe. I always learn a lot
You touched on something that I have never really thought of Jay. I like you also am an auto enthusiast. My last car built was an s13 with a 6 liter ls engine boosted. I drove it maybe 10 times and if those ten most were to the dyno to tune for more boost.
I do use my PC more for gaming now days because I have time, but all these high end parts are wasted in me when I could care less about seeing nice shadows and light rays.
Its about the build, then its boring when it cant be better.
Thanks for making me feel bad lol...
I’m about to build my first system and I’m still trying to wrap my head around all the different acronyms and specs for each part and what they mean. I’m pretty good on monitors but everything else, idk what all the words mean haha. Building seems easy, picking parts seem endless.
You are correct sir! When I built my first PC the hardest thing for me to shop for was the simplest; the case. There are so many companies making them, each having several models. I narrowed it to gaming cases with good air flow. Take your time and do your homework. It will be worth it.
Just don't fall into the hype and over spend on things.. choose what resolution you want, choose what games you like to play or will play, think about what you want your pc to be, games and browsing or hard core video editing software. Then get a budget lined up and stick to it! Pick team amd or intel, you do not need a smoking hot CPU for just gaming, anything new from intel or amd will be more then enough and don't get hyped up thinking you need some 12900 or 5900 to game at 1440p or even 4k. Get a motherboard thst you like and has good audio and usbs and at least 3 m.2. Pick a GPU that fits your budget and what you need it to do, brands don't matter much here and get cheaper one or think about cheaping out of fans or a cooler or case and put the saved money into a next tier up GPU.. get a 19 dollar cooler that will fit your MB and cpu, don't pee away all you money on a liquid cooler unless you have money to burn! pick memory 16 gigs min at 3200 cl14 or 3600 cl16, I saw a kit for 57 bucks, don't spend too much as saved money here can be put into more storage space and that's more important imo.. look for cheaper storage M.2 gen 3 only, 1 tb should be about 78 to 95 bucks, don't fall for the hype of gen 4 or anything. Then pick a case rated on gamer nexus channel for air flow and quality and once again, get a cheapy one now if that will help pay for better gpu, cpu, storage! Add up how many watts the system will pull and look at a psu, you will see them rated for quality on some fourm, I forget the name. Do not over spend on it, you can get colored cables for 20 bucks, you do not need anything better then gold rated.. pc parts seem complicated when starting out, but once you learn a bit it's easy and you don't want to learn you built a POS pc. Lol. I recommend a channel called PC builder, he just put together a nice vid of a few cheaper, but nice pc builds from 600 to 1500 bucks. He also goes over the don't and do's to build a pc. Good luck and don't get screwed to the tech hype!
Awesome content as always and great timing. I’ve been waiting for all the new stuff to drop and as a first time builder it’s overwhelming!
All I’ve got confirmed at the moment is case, M&KB, fans and cooler.
I unfortunately fall into the category of being stuck on buying top of the line stuff even if it isn’t necessary and doesn’t really add much performance.
I only play Warzone and yes, sweat profusely. My goal is 200+ fps in 1440p. Picking parts is even more difficult not only due to all the new PC stuff coming but warzone 2 is also on the horizon, here’s hoping for better optimisation and maybe my goals will be surpassed
I got the PSU, Case, and RAMs, and honestly, I think RM1000x might not be enough to run an RTX 3080/7900 XT.
Though, I'd be going 1440P 144Hz, so I guess even a 4070/7700 XT should suffice.
Case is TD500 Crystal. Rams are DDR4 3600 MT/s CL18 Viper RGB by Patriot.
Plan is to go 12/13 700k cooled with a Deepcool LS720.
That should last for 10 years, give or take.
This video is just chock full of solid advice, well done and thank you
About to build my first top end gaming pc in 20 years. Should be a blast looking at some of these performance figures. More videos helping me on my travels would be awesome. Keep up the great work. ❤🇬🇧
It's weird to look back at how much I upgraded my system over the years. My first PC back in 2005 lasted me close to 10 years and the only upgrade ever made to it was switching from integrated graphics to a hand me down Geforce 9300 GT. come 2014 I finally had money to build my own system with a 4690k and still had the 9300 GT. in 2015 I upgraded to a 750ti. From there it was a cluster of back and forth upgrades over the last 7 years. From the 4690k to a 7700K to a 8700k to a 9900k to a 10900k. When I got the 7700k I got a 980ti then a year later bought a second one for SLI. with a little hardship in the middle there I missed out on the 10 series which I'm not really upset by. About a year before the 30 series launched and shortly after I got my 9900k I went out and bought a 2070 Super. Once I got my next paycheck later that week I went back to Micro Center and exchanged it for a 2080ti. Now 3 years later I got my hands on a 3090 after the price drop. As I watched this video I made me realize that I just stopped upgrading my CPU. I think more so I got sick of upgrading my MB with it. I can definitely see that I haven't really had a reason to. Obviously I've upgraded Ram along the way between DDR2, 3, and 4. Not really looking forward having to upgrade to DDR5 in the next couple of years. Moral of all this honestly is to say that videos like this are even beneficial to us enthusiasts who upgrade all the time. Sometimes it's necessary to get some perspective thrown into your face. Unless the 3090 gets super out classed with the 4090 or even the 5090? I don't see myself needing to upgrade anytime soon. CPU, MB, and RAM won't probably be for another year or two at least. It's nice to actually sit back and think that I can, even happily, stop spending money on my gaming rig. My server and hopefully soon to be portable rig are an entirely different story.
its just life you know, think it lasted less than a year but good times nonetheless
I love building a PC at the end of a RAM generation. My old build was a 4790k build, and I only upgraded because the ram & motherboard scarcity meant I could part out my old mobo + RAM + CPU & upgrade to a R5 3600 for £20.
This time I'm looking to upgrade my 3600 to a 5900x once the next gen drops & go from a GTX1060 to a 3070ti/3080 (I use cuda for work otherwise that'd be AMD too).
This black friday is going to be wild
@Roenie I agree @ code. GTA5 has been out for almost a decade, but I've watched tests max out at ~90fps even with the nVidia 80s+ series. Mainly only competition games can hit the 144fps+ range or the rare game that was optimize amazingly. However, your setup may not be limited by your CPU, but it is limited by the ram speed; that's your current bottleneck.
@Roenie Staying at higher resolutions is the key to not having to upgrade your cpu as much for sure.
@Roenie My 4790k was still good at running modern games but the 1% lows started to get a bit more noticeable, even if the CPU isn't at 100%. Not every game is perfectly optimized, sure, but the faster DDR4 RAM and newer core architectures definitely make a difference.
I feel like I picked a pretty good time to build my first one. I've been getting tons of praise for what I put together for my first build at the price I paid. I'm thrilled with it and will only learn more and more to make an even more educated buy next time from all the new PC communities I'm finding like this one!!
Love ya Jay. Your vids always help a bunch IMO.
The most important thing about a PC build for me is that each iteration must retain at least one thing that the previous iteration included, like the Ship of Theseus/Grandfather's axe. Even though none of the parts now remain of my first build (the last things to go were probably some old SATA cables and the DVD RW drive), philosophically my current PC cam trace its form back to that first PC I built 20 years ago. It does mean your build is always behind in some ways but ahead in others but it keeps the philosophy of the original - form is second to function, the spec must allow for future expansion, you shall not expand to the point where nothing of the previous iteration is retained, but you shan't be sentimental about replacing any part. The choices you make on that first build have quite an influence on how your PC grows and changes over time.
Mf said shan’t on a computer video
I am actually still using a 7200rpm Western Digital Black from back when 1TB was sort of considered excessive by most gamers... I use it for storage, mostly, but I do still run a few games off of it, and it ...still works... so something like 2012? I also have a working Seagate Barricuda 500GB drive from 2009... that's probably the most ancient part I still occasionally access. It's impressive, really... the drive from 2008 or whenever does make a bit of noise, though. Just enough to make me think it's capable of bursting into flames.
Probably a good idea to lay them to rest some time before that happens....
You’ve saved my build. I had no idea 13th gen doesn’t run with ddr4. Gonna return it tomorrow and get the 12th gen one. This also gonna save a good amount of money as well.
Hope you learned a valuable lesson. The 13 was a good leap over a 12, and both a 13 and 14 will run DDR4 and DDR5. Intel never stated otherwise. Never listen to the rumour mill. You missed out on a good CPU because of rumours.
Amazing video. So rare to see someone talks about financial side of story. Games we play, how long we plan to play before new upgrade is required, amazing. Great work man!
I am still using the first PC I built in 2010! Yes i've upgraded a few parts over that time (new fans, new PSU, more ram, couple of dfferent gfx cards) but the bones of the PC is still the same - 1090t, m5a97 pro and 16gb ddr3. I'm only just now starting to put together a new build because its starting to struggle with ACC and MSFS, both CPU intensive sims. 12 years is not a bad innings at all for a PC, it has served me very well.
Great advice Jay, you are absolutely correct in your advice on upgrading vs not, and how you current gen system is not obsolete just because the new gen is released. My mentor that got me started in computer repair and building gave me similar advise that I still live by "Don't try to keep up with technology, you will go broke trying". To me that is still as valid today as when he told me that back in the 90's.
It's like my pc which doesn't really need an upgrade for 1080p because I currently have got r5 5600x, 16gb ram 3600MHz CL17 dual channel kit and msi rtx 2060 super gp oc and I play in 1080p on 1080p 144Hz 1ms monitor. There are only two games I play which are hard to run, cyberpunk 2077 on high settings and ray tracing and warzone in loading screens where it sometimes stays a lot because of the 15.5-15.7gb occupied from 16. My pc has got only ssds, kingston a2000 500gb and patriot burst 960gb. It's true I play on the highest settings, dxr and dlss balanced, but there are no stutters or fps drops in the match. The next upgrade will be 32gb dual channel kit from corsair and the reason for this brand is icue. Now I'm waiting for corsair icue h115i elite capellix and 3 sp140. The case is be quiet pure base 500dx which will be connected to the commander core with an adapter cable because it will be exactly like an argb led strip.
I forgot to mention those 3 fans are sp140 rgb elite performance which have got pwm, not like the first ones
Great video for the new PC builder. This is why I love Jay... says what it is 😁
I'm still on my 9 year old i7-4790K/32GB soon to upgrade GPU with an AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT. For months I'd be planning for a new PC replacement to either an Intel Core i9-12900K or AMD Ryzen 9 5900X. But fortunately, my 4th-gen Intel system still caters for both my work and gaming needs.
I’m going to build my first PC on the next month so this is really really helpful, thanks a lot!! 😃👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I've been building my first pc for 2 years. Buying part by part as I can afford it. And I am putting it together today :) I'm perfectly happy with it and even tho new parts and whatnot come out, I'm perfectly content.
My build:
Ryzen 9 5900x
Evga ftw3 3080 10gb
X570 dark hero mobo
32gb 3600 ddr4 corsair vengeance pro
1tb samsung 980 pro
Rog strix 1000w
Arctic liquid freezer ii 360 aio
Lian li dynamic evo
You feel like you have to shower after Reddit yet you live on Twitter.....
probably cuz everyone hates him on reddit and always talks shi about him lol
@@youhavenofriends2884 why lol
@@avatr7109 Because it is Reddit.
Thanks Jay - appreciate this info!
I think I am going to take the plunge on this Ryzen 7000. I have an 8700k - while it's fine for the gaming I do, I do think I'm finally ready to upgrade the CPU to match my GPU (6800XT).
Just get a good cooler and OC the 8700k. Don't waste your money, especially if you game at 1440p or higher.
Fair warning:
1) New CPU architecture (also new socket for AMD)
2) New chipset
3) New DDR5 standard
4) New PCIe5 standard
People forging ahead usually forget that it's only 1 and 2 most of the time. This generation will be 1, 2, 3, and 4. There will be BIOS problems, there will be driver problems, it will take time to fix them. That's months, or even over a year. Know the spaghetti blame game that hardware vendors will be tossing around. Know you will definitely need to flash new BIOS, maybe to the GPU also. If you're willing to do battle then do the build. If not then wait till 2024 for Zen5, or Intel's first chiplet based CPU, 14th gen. Additionally special ATX 3.0 power connectors that offer extra communication cables and plugs are just about to become the new standard as well.
@@Mr.Morden Im sorry what? PCIe5 won't be causing any issues. PCIe 4 didn't when it came out, i don't see why 5 would. Also DDR5 is already in use and is not causing any problems either. A new socket (for AMD) won't be causing any issues either. And if you think chipsets and CPu issues will plague 13th gen intel as well as zen4 then the same issues will happen for 14th gen intel and zen5. So i don't get why waiting for 14th gen and zen5 is better here with your thought process.
@@densetsu4286 BIOS BIOS BIOS it does the strangest things
I know I am kinda late , but I know show some appreciation to this channel by commenting ( which is something I almost never do ) . Just built my first pc on an 900 euro budget . It is a killer machine and downloaded battlefield 1 and Overwatch 2 to play . For those tha care the build consists of :
1. Amd ryzen 5600x ( I picked it before I see the video ironically )
2 . Rx 6600x ( same case )
3 Corsair vengeance 16 gb or ram
4 . 1 tb ssd by the sn770
5 750 watts power supply by Corsair
6. B550 gaming plus motherboard (msi )
7 be quite pure base 500x
8. Lastly a cpu cooler be quite rock slim 2 .
A total of 850 euros . It is midrange but can run 3A titles of respectable fps of about 80-150 depending on the game . This channel has been the backbone of my understanding of the gaming of industry ❤
I built my first pc this spring and got a 5600x and a 3050 and it works great. No complaints so far. runs games perfectly fine. I planned on upgrading the gpu to a 4070 when they come out but now I think I might just wait a while. I don't think I really need it
I upgraded from a laptop with an i7 7700HQ & gtx 1050 mobile to a $160 pc with an i5 6400 and a gtx 1060 3gb. (Motherboard and CPU upgrade on the way though lol)
Most PC gamers probably wouldn’t think much of it, but it’s a massive upgrade for me. Being realistic with your budget and your goals makes decision making a lot easier.
"Massive"? My switch from an GTX 260 Q6600 PC to GTX 1080 7700K was massive, you traded better gpu with worse cpu
@@leruty Yes, I know that but there were other benefits I didn’t mention. Switching to a desktop cleaned up my setup, had *significantly* better thermals, and gave me a reasonable upgrade path. I was rarely bottlenecked by the i7 or the i5 with what I was playing anyway.
New to building PCs here. My aim is to purchase parts and build a PC that will last me for the next 7 years and allow me to experience 4k graphics for movies on 1 monitor and 240hz, 1msrt on another monitor for games like valorant, overwatch and COD. I know a 3070 will do the job but for the setup to last me the next 7 years comfortably Im happy to chuck an extra $300-$400 to keep the longevity alive. Still researching and watching these and other similar videos to gather more valid points and opinions.
you should realllyyyy look into amd graphics cards, nvidia stuff is often times overpriced just due to branding.
@@chickenezface yeah I'll definitely keep them in mind now with their new 7900xtx for its price. probably will hold out until late december to see what happens.
will build mine soon. im always interested in the last gen, due to stability, so new stuff is not at all interesting for me personally. which means, this is great time for me since sales might be coming. I started collecting parts in april/may, picking up whatever i can find on sales/offers. only a couple of pieces to go now!!
Thanks for keeping it real Jay, Im building my first pc, I've been waiting since october 2019🫠. Decided to go with an upper mid-range am4 build, ryzen 7 7800x3d, a rtx 3060ti, nvme 4tb with 4tb ssd back up, noctua cooler, 32 gb vulcan ddr4 3600 All in a be quiet 500dx for 1440 gaming, photo editing and some video editing. You're guidance, along with nexus gamers and ltt, has been sooo helpful. Thanks dude!
this video is so underrated, we need this!
per what you recommend, would you also do a parts guide for the outgoing and for the new gen?
it's been confusing for me these past couple weeks, learning all the parts to make a good Gaming PC and finding good deals with stuff that will work together. However I still messed up and bought the wrong motherboard for my Ryzen 5 7600X. I canceled the ordered and ordered a new one then realized the new motherboard only uses DDR5, so I had to cancel my DDR4 RAM and get DDR5 RAM. I am upgrading from a 1080 to 3070 ti, and will upgrade from a 1080 monitor to a 1440 later down the road.
It's not hard to get with PC building but like anything you got to be passionate about the detail, as they say, the devil is in the detail!
I’m building my second system. The first one I built was for my wife, 5600x and a 3080 10gb. My system will be a 6800xt with a 5700x. I was this 🤏🏻close to going am5 but the last Gen stuff was too cheap to pass up iMO… especially after waiting almost 3 years to build one.
There's only a couple of things that I would add to this. First one is to make sure your PSU has enough watts plus a 100, or 200, over head in case you decide to upgrade later. The second one is to make sure that there's ample cooling in your system. You're not going to get the most out of your CPU and GPU if they're running too hot. They have built in measures where the performance is lowered to ensure they don't burn up. Having said that, it's not that expensive. My rule of thumb is 3 inflow and 3 outflow. But, you can get away (depending on where you live and your a/c situation) with just 2 inflow and 2 outflow.
Thank you!!
^^^This! Just ordered a 850w Super Flower PSU (manufacturer of some popular EVGA PSU, great deal) because I didn't go big enough to begin with. Initially was running a Ryzen 3600 and GTX 1650 (all I could find new at the beginning of the GPU shortage) so bought a 500w PSU. Then I upgraded to a water cooled 1080 ti with eyes toward 30xx or 6xx0 series GPUs. Gonna need a WHOLE lot more power than 500w just to overclock what I'm currently running. Buy enough PSU from the start and it'll last a loooooong time
@@mysweetshadow747 I used to recommend around 500-600w for medium range build ($800-1000), but now things are starting to require a lot more power. PCPartPicker has a feature that gives an estimation of how much your minimum wattage should be for your build. It doesn't account for any overclocking and possible upgrades. So, I still say, if you can afford it, give yourself plenty of room. If you're system only needs 500w, it's only going to pull that much even if you have a 850w PSU. So you're not pulling/wasting that extra 200-300w. It's just a good buffer to have.
Not necessarily for overhead for upgrading, but also so that you can take advantage of its 80Plus efficiency. Last thing you want is to upgrade two or three gens up and all of a sudden your power efficiency gets pegged, even if you aren't necessarily capping on your PSU wattage.
a 100 is barely enough for spikes...200 better
Excellent video. I feel like I just had a conversation with a friend about upgrading my rig.
Yeah, I am still perfectly happy with my rig. Consider it to be pretty nice. R5 2600, rx 5700xt, 32gb ram, ssd, m.2, and hdd about 2tb of space total. Rock a 1440p 27in curved VA panel. I do have a aio on the cpu. Never have had any real issues with any game that I play. It runs even star citizen well.
Hey Jay, I would love to hear you talk about picking parts for a work station. I know the line has blurred a lot, but I'm assuming you can still optimize a system for, say audio production, vs gaming. I would love to hear what hardware different productivity software benefit from most; like Premiere, Pro tools, etc. I tried doing my own research, but only found really vague answers. Like "this software is cpu heavy", or "a high end gpu would help a lot". Do they benefit most from clock speed or high core count? What about ram? Does ram speed matter more than gaming?
On a low budget would a work station look exactly the same as a gaming rig?
I would love to hear your thoughts! Thanks!
its bcs the better, the more convenient your work will be, we cant just suggest 7900x out of nowhere
I am finally retiring my i7-4790k and 1070Ti. With prices coming back to normal and new stuff coming out, it felt like a great time to upgrade. Granted I never buy the newest gear, but I do want to be relevant for a decent amount of time. I went with a i7-11700K and a 3080Ti. I originally just bought the motherboard and processor since it was a good deal, but decided to go ahead and pick up the RAM and power supply to go ahead and get it running so I don't run into issues with a bad part I bought 6 months ago and can't return. Then I got a good deal on the 3080Ti, so I went ahead and bit the bullet for it also. I will build in my current tower, an old Corsair Vengeance C70, but will eventually upgrade to a Corsair 5000D Airflow in white as this will be my first "white" build. Then the usual odds and ends like a new AIO and fans. It seems like there is a narrow window in which to buy older gear when it is being liquidated but before it becomes "rare" and suddenly valued at 5 times the price. So far I think I did pretty well. I could have saved a few more bucks on the motherboard and CPU, but I made up for it with the 3080Ti for $800.
What's nice in having a good case is it lasts literally years. Especially anything in the past 2 years with a mesh front will last a long time. So you save that money and on fans when you upgrade.
retiring my 7700 (non k) and 1060 for a 12400 + 3060Ti/3070 build in the near future!
I am considering retiring my r7 2700 and vega 56 with 64 bios
@@funi1083 3060 to 3070 is a huge difference. Do not get a 3060.
@@sogetsu60 3060ti*
Love the rundown Jay. On 2nd build in 6 months. Had to jump on the final AM4 platform using an Asus ProArt X series w/AMD 5950x after that major $200 dip back in February (or so). Also grabbed a 12900K when Intel HAD to match it! Just got another ProArt (Z series) and guess I'm going to have a personal shootout with those while I wait to see how all the NEW gen gear shakes out. Bro ... that 4090 you showcased ... may need to build it on the wall, to HOUSE that monster. Great stuff here.
WOW thank you for all the info love your videos keep up the good work take good care of yourself and your love one stay safe.
Best advice is most people don't need more than a 5600X/3060 build tbh.
I wish more reviewers would start to make noise normalized performance comparisons with GPU models, cause if you are not putting your PC in another room or wear closed/ANC headphones, you may not want a GPU running at 300-400W within 2 meters of you.
For example, 3090 & 3080 have noticeably better peak performance than 3070, but unlike many other techs in life. 3070 has better performance per watt than 3080. So if you are only willing to endure a certain amount of fan noise(even the 3070 can be plenty loud under full load when it's within 2 meters of you), 3070 may be a better GPU for you regardless of the price.
I’m building for myself after 10 years of rocking my old build. Good ole gen 4 intel i5 and gtx 760 served me well. I won’t be going for the new new gen but I’m building on the z590 chipset and I’m excited.
Absolutely right, Jay. It’s easy to fall down the rabbit hole. You don’t need to have the latest and greatest to have a great time.
Rocking an i7 7700k + RTX3070 here - might sound like a weird combo due to the age difference but it works great! Stuff like cyberpunk and hitman run just fine, and it being an 11.5L mini-itx build (SG13 case) is just the cherry on top for me - although I did have to do a bit of metalwork to cram the RTX3070 dual in ;)
You're bottlenecking that RTX 3070, not a lot but you should pick up a cheap 5600x/5800x sometime later.
@@owlmostdead9492 can't find any mini-itx boards for AMD with dual Ethernet and WiFi, and that dual Ethernet is important for work stuff
@@triffid0hunter Why do you need 3 connections? Even with VM's etc when you split/gate traffic you only need 2 at most
@@owlmostdead9492 primary Ethernet and WiFi for generalised internet, secondary Ethernet bridged with WiFi second channel for a routed lan that I can connect both WiFi and Ethernet devices to for debugging and localised comms - embedded is fun sometimes :D
Sure, I could do much the same with a managed switch and an access point, but I don't have one at the moment and don't particularly want to get them when my computer can do it all by itself
@@triffid0hunter Eh kind of a suboptimal setup you have there, just waiting for headaches here. I was about to suggest a managed switch but I wasn't sure if it was applicable to your workflow, honestly just get one. Good ones are like 50 bucks and trust me they are way more reliable than random Windows updates F'ing up settings and configs, in fields like pentesting you'd be risking your home network with that kind of setup since it's not 'properly' isolated.
While my intention is to jump in on the new 7000 series CPU and GPU for an all AMD build, I am certainly still keeping an eye on the outgoing 5000 series CPUs and 6000 series GPUs. Depending how prices shape up and how performances stack up early on, I may be swayed to go with the outgoing tech. All depends how everything falls into place.
Yeah same im more leaning to last gen right now but 7000 series is still on the table for upgradability
Walmart has an HP Pavilion with a 3060 for $650 right now with mouse and keyboard included. There's not many options for future upgrades but just the graphics card alone cost $400 and you're getting everything but a monitor.
HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop, Intel Core i5-10400F, Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Windows 11 Home, Black, TG01-1183w $649.00
@@GrabLifeByDaPoosy nice
Thanks for this video, been playing on a laptop for years now because I’ve been too scared to build a pc and fuck it up, this is exactly what I needed !
I’m one of those 1st time builders. Great vid with great advice. My main use will be for running and streaming Zwift races. So with that in mind an i3 10100 with GTX 1660s, 8gb DDDR4 and a small M.2 with a few vans on an MSI B460 Tomahawk and I’ve got what I need for around €500 - & honestly great results have been achieved by others that just want to use it for Zwift specifically for even €300 using i3 4th gen. So basically cut your cloth to suit your measure 🤷♂️
IM READY IM SOOOO READY .... but my wallet isn't ... ;p .. from other side .. i would like to see Jay make a hardware guide like that but with shift focus ... not all about games .. but about stuff like adobe photoshop / illustrator .. that would be something cool and fresh to see coming out from Jay
I totally agree. I do NOT PLAY GAMES. I do graphic design and scrapbooking. I use Photoshop and MS Paint. The only major game I have on my (now very) old system is Rocket League!! If I upgrade, i will need to spend more on storage to hold all the scrapbooking graphics that I purchase, than the CPU/speed/graphics - although a good graphics card is still required. A PC build Video for a NON GAMING PC would be very Helpful!!!!
@@francescathomas3502 Photoshop need good CPU .. and ram .. i just jump from 2700x to 5950x .. like 5 mc ago .. and it is a blast .. 32gb 3200cl14 .. 6900xt .. x570s master aorus Mobo 2 TB in nvme pcie 3 and 4 .. but still i would like to hear what jay has to say about build not focused around games only
I mean for anything like that pretty much just swap out the gaming GPU for a workstation GPU (better for rendering, etc.) and you should be fine lol (might want to lean towards a slightly better CPU than you would for most games too)
Walmart has an HP Pavilion with a 3060 for $650 right now with mouse and keyboard included. There's not many options for future upgrades but just the graphics card alone cost $400 and you're getting everything but a monitor.
HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop, Intel Core i5-10400F, Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Windows 11 Home, Black, TG01-1183w $649.00
Love the video...I'm in the market I've built a few but I want a micro build for editing 8k video as well as gaming. Would love your take on a productive build that can 1440 max setting game as well. I just want a nice build with a smaller footprint cause I'm starting to not like huge towers. budget 2400$ Ill also recycle any part of my old build.
3070 and any decent ryzen cpu will max 1440p. I have 3070 and 3700x and it runs everything in 1440p great, but you might start to restrict yourself on ram if you only have 16. Id definitely go with 32.
Mid tower is min recommended size...screw SFF. Everything is more and you gotta screw around with how tall is memory...will CPU cooler fit, will pwr fit, GPU fit?
Unless you wanna pine over every detail go midtower. Remember...if you want to use SFF case in future... you're looking at same bullshit Tetris game fitting it all in.
But, if u ready to send some parts back...hlgo for it.
@@Tracker5111 thanks for the advice I didn’t look into are the same parts I gotta buy smaller
A month from now we will have benchmarks for the new Ryzen7000 CPUs and the NVIDIA 40-series will officially be unveiled.
_ASSUMING THE PEFORMANCE IS TRUE TO THE CURRENT LEAKS, AND WITH A $2400 BUDGET:_
The 12-core Ryzen9 7900x and (probably) an Nvidia RTX 4080 with 64GB DDR5 and a nice, fast pcie gen4 nvme SSD (probaly 2TB). That's your "high-end" option, with top-tier video editing AND gaming performance.
Your GAMING FOCUSED option would changing the CPU to an 8-core Ryzen7 7700x and reduce the system to 32GB RAM.
Your cost-saving option would be to go with a 7700x, 32GB RAM and step the GPU down also, to an RTX 4070 which will be MORE than sufficient for 1440p gaming.
That would probably reduce your cost by $5-600, depending on how these new NVIDIA cards are priced. Hell with the money you saved there go out and buy yourself a PS5 for the exclusives that don't come over to PC.
@@ChadWatkins smallest non compromise is the o11 mini. Smaller than that you will need to do a decent amount of research which for some like me, is the joy of building a sff. To tinker with stuff to finally get things work together in a nr200 is a lot of fun as well as headaching if you are not careful.
Though the dan a4 h2o (11l which I can fit in my backpack) is a tiny case that is actually pretty straightforward in the PC part picking as it can hold the vast majority of gpu besides the huge high end 80ti or higher and you only have 240 aio to pick. Though building is a pain if it's your first build.
As the previous comment said, if you want a done and dusted build stick with mid tower at smallest the o11 mini or torrent compact. If you consider the building part fun then try dabble with sff. Though I highly advise not going lower than 11l since at that point you lose so much performance for a meh decrease in size
Nonetheless, if you can wait wait until the next gen gpu is out since you can live with and 5000 or 12th Gen but a 4080 / 7800xt is gonna smoke their predecessor and also has the biggest impact unless you do cpu heavy workload
Great information and philosophy - thank you!
New to your channel, really appreciate all the information you share to the new builders! Haven’t built a new system in like 20 years. Off topic though, is that a Cecilio electric Cello in the background? I have one as well!
Ive always bought midrange and never been dissapointed with my experience. You've gotta remind yourself that even if you do a full system upgrade in 3 or 4 years with the next gen of midrange parts you're usually still under the budget of what a high end pc would have cost
The whole needing Win 11 to get all the performance out of the new hardware for me is a deal breaker. Especially since I cannot be the only one who was using Legacy bios on Win 7 when they upgraded to Win 10.
I've seen a few tech repairs guy warning us Windows 11 has features that are currently optional, but with 1 update could render many diagnostic tools useless, lock your data so it can only be access by a Wondows 11 pc for recovery, and you wouldn't be able to install any program unless it is on MS's approved list (all for your own safety, of course). MS would become the master of your PC.
I'll believe AM5 "needs" it when I see it. 12th gen required it because it's of its unique hardware arrangement for x86, but Zen 4 is still following the same basic layout as 3 & 2.
12 gen cpu prices in Europe haven't dropped at all, they kept going up until few weeks ago but still high
I just completed my new Corsair/MSI build. Looks great but one thing I wish I would have done was bought my MD and processor as a bundle (if available). Waiting for the different components to go on sale at the same time, in the flavor you want/need, is a long waiting game. This is also going to be your biggest expense. Make sure you budget early for this. Most everything else will cost less and can be bought at convenient steps.
Don't skimp on the power supply! If tou spec out to just needing a 750W PSU, go for the next step up. Your experience with performance will thank you. Also, try and go for the Gold or higher on the rating. Higher effiency == less heat => better pereformance.