Before selling, might want to read this: I know this is an old thread and everyone may have either sorted the problem or sold the car, but I've just experienced the same problem following an engine change from a yellow dipstick engine to orange dipstick. The fault code P0087 is misleading as is suggests there is a fuel pressure problem, but I subscribed to Service Box for a day and compared all engine part numbers between the two engines. Peugeot are clear that, although the engine code EB2DT is the same, some part numbers are different depending on whether it has a yellow dipstick or orange, the main one being the inlet camshaft. I have now replaced the inlet cam on my orange dipstick engine using the original one from the yellow engine, and that has cured the problem. Looking at the two camshafts in my hand, you can see the timing of the three lobes that drive the HPFP are 60° apart, so it looks like the ECU picks up the timing of the high pressure pulses which is 60° out of phase and shuts the pressure off, and then tells us there is a pressure problem. I have observed the pressure on live data using Diagbox and it is much more responsive delivering the required pressure compared to using the orange engine camshaft. So, the bottom line appears to be the ECUs are configured differently to match the different camshafts - totally unnecessary in my opinion, but...there you go!
Thank goodness for proper knowledgeable dudes like you that are the real backbone of the car industry, punters like me who buy another second hand van every two years or so are so reliant on your expertise!
When that guy was sat around the big table and he said "I've made an engine that will run on a new system called a wet belt", they should have shown him the door there and then 😮
At 1.2 pure tech I'd be screaming red flag. Good decision to push back through auction rather than keep spending to put right. First loss is the best loss sadly.
Trouble is, once these dodgy engines hit the road, there will always be some person who knows nothing more than how to drive a car and buys anything based merely on it's colour!
Citroen have a history with dip sticks. During WW2 when they were under Nazi occupation they swapped out the dip sticks for "extra long" dipsticks so the Germans would run the engines low on oil and fail prematurely to help the war effort/resistance.
The 80/20 rule is called the Pareto Principle. If you look this up and use it throughout your life, it will serve you EXTREMELY well. Vilfredo Pareto, an Italian mathematician/economist noted some superb observations
Somebody’s bodged and offloaded a complete lemon, there. Saying that, though, if you bought the ‘same’ engine from a scrappy and dropped it in, why would you think there’d be an issue? God, I miss old carburettor cars. 😂
Had the same issue at our Peugeot Citroen independent , new engine fitted, lobes that work the fuel pump are at different angles. Put the cam in from the old engine perfect. Original issue was that the car would drive perfectly around town at low speeds but as soon as you went to motorway speeds light on and limp mode
Those 1.2s are a ticking time bomb. Even if you have one that’s had its belt done it won’t help you because the damage is already done and it’ll have had oil starvation when the original belt degraded and now it’ll guzzle and burn oil for fun until…. it doesn’t!! Don’t touch with a barge pole.
good decision to send back as someone mention not all cars purchased are wrong but it is interesting that we as dealers all seem to be having problems always happens when job goes quite
If it’s a P code and it drives right just map the code out and will stay off permanently. I am sure if you put back through auction that’s what the next guy will do
Its relatively inexpensive to replace the wet belt on a puretech engine. It is not as bad as a Ford Eco Boost. The bigger problem apparently is oil use which can get excessive.
Had problems with one of these before, the 1.2 3 cylinder non turbo version. Ended up being piston slap and I found out off a Peugeot engineer that they run too hot from the factory which causes major issues
The mere mention of a wet belt makes my blood run cold... Who the hell thought that would be a good idea?imagine engineers sat round a table... 'I know, let's put a rubber belt in oil, that will last'😂
The argument over the correct grade oil is just an excuse to avoid paying out. Also, oil changes will flush out some of the material that the belt sheds but it will degrade at the same rate regardless of the frequency of oil changes
The wet belt systems are a fundamental design flaw, heaven knows what those designers were thinking at the time.. well in theory they would be great, but hot oil and rubber don't really get on and as the belts degrade, they drop bits of rubber in the filter .. and a blocked oil filter leads to a seized engine. They say "use the right oil" but that's not the complete solution, it will still happen. If I were to buy that car, I'd replace that belt twice as often as they say to.
So when the engine was changed at the main dealer as you said. The problem is with the parts department at the main dealer. They have to supply the workshop the correct engine. As the parts department are looking it up they should be checking it's the right engine for that vehicle's VIN number.
Main dealer parts guys like engines as they get more bonus for selling a high value item. So they should be more careful when looking it up on the electronic parts catalogue to supply the correct part. After all, surely the same note that pops up on your diagnostic machine, should be displayed on the EPC.
Did you try AP Autocare in Bristol? They were excellent when I used to have Citroens. At the time they were independent Citroen/Peugeot specialists. They still are but have added a few other manufacturers in.
I had a DS3 from BCA with the same issue, someone had swapped out the engine for an different spec. Was impossible to fix and BCA had it back in the end. Full refund as was not sold with any explanation on the sale! I am in the trade and they will refund you!
I've found Aston barclay is the best of a bad lot, go in person, wait with the car, not in the hall, take your mechanic with you, not as glamorous as just bidding on line, but loads safer, don't buy anything expensive without it being assured, not infallible, but at least you'll have a better chance, avoid anything that's known to be a bad vehicle as well, no matter how tempting. Check everything online as well, mot history, Google reg number as well, I did that the other mth on a 4 series m bmw, it was on a dealers forecourt only a week before at 11995, now it was going thru Astons at 9k,sure enough engine had a slight bottom end knock. All good advice mate from someones who's been in the job for a long time.
True the lobes on the inlet camshaft are different causing incorrect fuel pressures,Citroen technical said there are other differences in the engine so put the correct engine in.but you clever guys out the are doing different things that a main dealer can’t do.
I would try and back it to BCA as you can prove the fault was already there when you purchased it. Worth a shot even though we all no how difficult they are with these things.Good luck with it.
That dipstick looks like the one that it left the factory with. The difference in colour indicates that there is a difference in the timing belt tensioner. That will be the cause of the problem as the wrong tensioner was fitted, throwing the timing out.
Hi Joe there is always something that catches buyers out , how the hell were you suppose to know about a coloured dip stick I will never know , you have already answered what I was thinking to see the engine and put the correct one in , off to auction she goes, I was watching a new channel where the young 29 year old lad who owns the garage only buys assured cars , I’m sure you mentioned it recently on one of your videos , how much extra is it to buy only assured cars ? Is it a %of the value ? Maybe on certain models it’s a safer option what’s your thoughts. All the best Mick.
Can someone please enlighten me as to why the colour of an engine oil dipstick would cause a fuel pressure fault and engine management light? I own a 2005 citroen berlingo diesel and the dipstick on that is just a dipstick that tells you the oil level when you pull it out. I'm just mystified as to why a certain colour of dipstick would cause engine faults. 🤔
The dipstick colour just indicates which type of camshaft is fitted to that particular engine, it’s colour on it’s own has no effect on the the way the engine runs.
Believe me if someone has to put a superficially nice looking car through an auction for way less money than they would get on a private sale there's a MONEY PIT reason for it 😮
I'm considering purchasing a Peugeot 2008 or 3008 but I've heard mixed reviews about the puretech engines - are they to be avoided? Would prefer a petrol but not sure what other options there are.
@@pencilme1n thank you! Do you know if the DPF are an issue with these cars? I only do short journeys but my 12 year old diesel (which I've recently parted with) never gave me any problems in that respect.
An expensive lesson learned the hard way as to why wet belt engines are best avoided. If you do sell it, be prepared for it to haunt you. I would stick it straight back into the auction, and absorb any loss. It takes years to gain a good reputation, why risk it with a dodgy car.
KP15 BAV, was for sale in June and Oct 2020- £6250 with 55k, then again May 2021 £5750, 55k dead again, red flag. The wet belts shred even with correct oil and regular servicing they need to be over serviced to guarantee. The mot history is not great looks like 48k and failed on loads first mot 3 years old
Exactly! Just like BMW mini have a designed weak spot, a plastic bodied water pump. They know it doesn't last long and needs replacement, so screw customer out of servicing or unnecessary trade in. The majority of motor manufacturers are now just greedy who don't want their cars lasting forever, it's bad for business.
I wonder if you could just swap the fuel pressure sensor for the correct engine? The ECU is only recognising pre programmed parameters. Perhaps that is one if the differences? The computer can only see differences in the maths .. it cannot see the colour of the dipstick.
Back in the early nineties when I was in the trade I did worse than that.. I bought a what seemed a relatively cheap,. indeed too cheap Nisan Micra from Exeter auctions without looking at it and leaving a proxy bid.. When It eventually turned up at my site here in Cornwall I found out that someone had put a fairly crap mini engine in it! Did I feel stupid or what...
PSA know how to make good bodies (don't rust) good seats, and good suspension.. but are terrible at electronics. The switches break, the relays melt, the cables corrode, cars do weird things like wipers coming on when the car is left parked... Radio is coded to the ECU , mileage is stored in ECU and speedo... just drama all the time. The Japanese seem to make the best electrics.
@@vx.calibre2901very good engine, good MPG. Only time they seem to get problems is when people don't notice the injectors working loose and keep driving them, pumping soot into the crankcase which leads to other problems. Else 300.000 miles at 65mpg, good engine!
My 22 Corsa has a yellow dipstick its a 130 engine perhaps the colour denotes power of engines? Vw did that at one time low powered diesel cars had a red tdi badge higher powered silver!
problem is if someone had a crash then insurance will say its been mapped then they sue you for selling them a stock car they didnt know about ecu remap
'I shouldn't have bought it. I think I liked the colour' How long have you been in the business? I understand the difference is the inlet camshaft lobe timing is different. They should have swapped it over from the old engine.
Send it back! EML is a MOT failure regardless and you shouldn't have to be clearing it for MOT or for a customer, it's got the wrong engine for a reason, worst case scenarios on those puretech's ios it kills an engine and maybe that's what happened to this so they replaced it asap and chucked it into a auction, it's very suspicious and don't even bother with it as even parts you get now will be wrong
Hello from Ireland again Joe. I quite like this car, everyone seems to have a Downer with this Car, for some reason 🤔 lol. I reckon it's great value lol. You're probably Cringing Joe lol 😂😂🤣😂. That's a Crime that you have to run it back through the Auction again, Joe. That's tough, but it does happen, I guess. Let us know how this Peugeot/Citroen gets on, Joe. Wicked Video again as always Mate 🙏🙏🥰👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I would buy the the Topdon diagnostic machine and drive the Citroen for years, just keep clearing the code when it pops up, that’s if I would ever buy a French car again, which I never will, after a nightmare with a Peugeot 307 HDi!!🤣
Well on the electronic parts catalogue in the Citroën parts department it should show what engine should only go with what VIN. Also the V5C should have the new engine number on it.
Before selling, might want to read this: I know this is an old thread and everyone may have either sorted the problem or sold the car, but I've just experienced the same problem following an engine change from a yellow dipstick engine to orange dipstick. The fault code P0087 is misleading as is suggests there is a fuel pressure problem, but I subscribed to Service Box for a day and compared all engine part numbers between the two engines. Peugeot are clear that, although the engine code EB2DT is the same, some part numbers are different depending on whether it has a yellow dipstick or orange, the main one being the inlet camshaft. I have now replaced the inlet cam on my orange dipstick engine using the original one from the yellow engine, and that has cured the problem.
Looking at the two camshafts in my hand, you can see the timing of the three lobes that drive the HPFP are 60° apart, so it looks like the ECU picks up the timing of the high pressure pulses which is 60° out of phase and shuts the pressure off, and then tells us there is a pressure problem. I have observed the pressure on live data using Diagbox and it is much more responsive delivering the required pressure compared to using the orange engine camshaft.
So, the bottom line appears to be the ECUs are configured differently to match the different camshafts - totally unnecessary in my opinion, but...there you go!
Would it not be easier to change the ECU,s rather than the camshafts ?
@peterjones2650 think that depends on coding, ecu has part of the immobiliser in and they would be vin locked i suspect.
can code this(change from Yellow to organge-grey-green or from orange-grey-green back to yellow) in your ecu remotely if you have diagbox cable
Citroen*
Thank goodness for proper knowledgeable dudes like you that are the real backbone of the car industry, punters like me who buy another second hand van every two years or so are so reliant on your expertise!
Not all cars are bad from Auction but all bad cars go too Auction
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@@69spook lol what are you a English teacher get a life troll
When that guy was sat around the big table and he said "I've made an engine that will run on a new system called a wet belt", they should have shown him the door there and then 😮
The designers got AWARDS for this design 😂😂😂
@@exgtt2061 the award should have been life no parole
@@bigbob7062 😂👍
@@tomoreilly9932 THE EU car market is all about short terms and emissions, they are run by accountants not engineers
And at the same table someone said: hey and lets have engines with different coloured dispsticks.
At 1.2 pure tech I'd be screaming red flag. Good decision to push back through auction rather than keep spending to put right. First loss is the best loss sadly.
Trouble is, once these dodgy engines hit the road, there will always be some person who knows nothing more than how to drive a car and buys anything based merely on it's colour!
Citroen have a history with dip sticks.
During WW2 when they were under Nazi occupation they swapped out the dip sticks for "extra long" dipsticks so the Germans would run the engines low on oil and fail prematurely to help the war effort/resistance.
The 80/20 rule is called the Pareto Principle. If you look this up and use it throughout your life, it will serve you EXTREMELY well.
Vilfredo Pareto, an Italian mathematician/economist noted some superb observations
Sometimes I have experienced the 80/20 Pareto principle working - back to front !
Right oil, right service schedule ...belt still degrades.
yes its a degradable part
Somebody’s bodged and offloaded a complete lemon, there.
Saying that, though, if you bought the ‘same’ engine from a scrappy and dropped it in, why would you think there’d be an issue?
God, I miss old carburettor cars. 😂
We had loads of these as rental cars. The engine never really gave us problems. But we barely had any that went over 30k before they went to auction.
Had the same issue at our Peugeot Citroen independent , new engine fitted, lobes that work the fuel pump are at different angles. Put the cam in from the old engine perfect. Original issue was that the car would drive perfectly around town at low speeds but as soon as you went to motorway speeds light on and limp mode
You could get an ecu kit (used) ecu, keys, bsi, transponder, maybe dash, I've had to do that on a seat, done a few,
Those 1.2s are a ticking time bomb. Even if you have one that’s had its belt done it won’t help you because the damage is already done and it’ll have had oil starvation when the original belt degraded and now it’ll guzzle and burn oil for fun until…. it doesn’t!! Don’t touch with a barge pole.
good decision to send back as someone mention not all cars purchased are wrong but it is interesting that we as dealers all seem to be having problems always happens when job goes quite
Great video for a relaxing Tuesday night 👍🏻 keep up the great content. I love the videos where you go to the auctions
FYI there ia a chain conversion kit available now.
David at mobile eco tuning is the nuts when it comes to engines and electrics. Definitely knows his stuff
If it’s a P code and it drives right just map the code out and will stay off permanently. I am sure if you put back through auction that’s what the next guy will do
Its relatively inexpensive to replace the wet belt on a puretech engine. It is not as bad as a Ford Eco Boost. The bigger problem apparently is oil use which can get excessive.
Had problems with one of these before, the 1.2 3 cylinder non turbo version. Ended up being piston slap and I found out off a Peugeot engineer that they run too hot from the factory which causes major issues
The mere mention of a wet belt makes my blood run cold... Who the hell thought that would be a good idea?imagine engineers sat round a table... 'I know, let's put a rubber belt in oil, that will last'😂
The belts degrade even if recomended oil is used.
Mine is coming up to its 10th birthday so I'm not complaining.
As does every timing belt on every car
@@agiugabenson7268 not nealy as quick as a wet belt though ?
@@agiugabenson7268yes but a standard timing belt is easier to change
The argument over the correct grade oil is just an excuse to avoid paying out. Also, oil changes will flush out some of the material that the belt sheds but it will degrade at the same rate regardless of the frequency of oil changes
The wet belt systems are a fundamental design flaw, heaven knows what those designers were thinking at the time.. well in theory they would be great, but hot oil and rubber don't really get on and as the belts degrade, they drop bits of rubber in the filter .. and a blocked oil filter leads to a seized engine. They say "use the right oil" but that's not the complete solution, it will still happen. If I were to buy that car, I'd replace that belt twice as often as they say to.
U have massive following well done career broadcasting way to go
So when the engine was changed at the main dealer as you said. The problem is with the parts department at the main dealer. They have to supply the workshop the correct engine. As the parts department are looking it up they should be checking it's the right engine for that vehicle's VIN number.
There's a chain conversion kit available for puretech engines.
scottish car clan did a video on that a few days ago.
Main dealer parts guys like engines as they get more bonus for selling a high value item. So they should be more careful when looking it up on the electronic parts catalogue to supply the correct part.
After all, surely the same note that pops up on your diagnostic machine, should be displayed on the EPC.
Unusual car colours are a bit like Unusual Woman with that strange tanning colour = Problems!!!!
Thanks again!
❤😂Thanks 🎉😊
Maybe find a scrap ecu for the engine you have
Seems a good idea seems you taking a bit of a hit without checking what is possible!!
This is embarassing, Not only are you buying cars from We Buy Any Car, But youre buying them without service history..
Then selling them on to gullible people who will pay top money for them
Paid 3500 advertised at 5700.
Robbery
Did you try AP Autocare in Bristol? They were excellent when I used to have Citroens. At the time they were independent Citroen/Peugeot specialists. They still are but have added a few other manufacturers in.
Hey it would have been a cracking car if you’d found a work round. Great video too.
I like the C4 cactus, but this one was a complete duff. Have a great week Joe and team.
I had a DS3 from BCA with the same issue, someone had swapped out the engine for an different spec. Was impossible to fix and BCA had it back in the end. Full refund as was not sold with any explanation on the sale! I am in the trade and they will refund you!
so you see you learn everyday ,bin a mecanik for 40 years and i dint know that. nice to know
Any P codes can be remapped out and never come back , just need the right person to do it mate , aslong as the car drives good , I recommend it
There is now a timing chain conversion kit available for these engines.
I work for a motor factor. These engines are perfectly reliable but do require the exact oil and precise servicing. Without proof of that I'd avoid.
I've found Aston barclay is the best of a bad lot, go in person, wait with the car, not in the hall, take your mechanic with you, not as glamorous as just bidding on line, but loads safer, don't buy anything expensive without it being assured, not infallible, but at least you'll have a better chance, avoid anything that's known to be a bad vehicle as well, no matter how tempting. Check everything online as well, mot history, Google reg number as well, I did that the other mth on a 4 series m bmw, it was on a dealers forecourt only a week before at 11995, now it was going thru Astons at 9k,sure enough engine had a slight bottom end knock. All good advice mate from someones who's been in the job for a long time.
I checked 4 times the date, thinking this might be an April fools, but no its an October dip stick. good luck Joe
It had a "green" essential report, yet the EML light is on and it runs poorly - is there no come back on that?
I would strongly recommend you avoid anything with a wet belt, regardless of mileage
True the lobes on the inlet camshaft are different causing incorrect fuel pressures,Citroen technical said there are other differences in the engine so put the correct engine in.but you clever guys out the are doing different things that a main dealer can’t do.
I would try and back it to BCA as you can prove the fault was already there when you purchased it.
Worth a shot even though we all no how difficult they are with these things.Good luck with it.
Can you not change the ECU for a Orange dipstick one from a scrapper?
That dipstick looks like the one that it left the factory with. The difference in colour indicates that there is a difference in the timing belt tensioner. That will be the cause of the problem as the wrong tensioner was fitted, throwing the timing out.
Re raffle the 7 series Joe please 😁 I love it.
I am with you mate I love it also..plus raising money for the lad
Can't you use some kind of resister or the opposite of a resistor on the fuel rail pressure sensor wire to make the ecu see a higher pressure.
Would have thought an ecu kit from a car with the correct engine would have been a quick fix. Would have had to have the mileage corrected though
Hi Joe there is always something that catches buyers out , how the hell were you suppose to know about a coloured dip stick I will never know , you have already answered what I was thinking to see the engine and put the correct one in , off to auction she goes, I was watching a new channel where the young 29 year old lad who owns the garage only buys assured cars , I’m sure you mentioned it recently on one of your videos , how much extra is it to buy only assured cars ? Is it a %of the value ? Maybe on certain models it’s a safer option what’s your thoughts. All the best Mick.
It went through brightwells auctions in may this year thought id seen it before
Having worked for BCA. Buyer beware!
Buyer beware at any auction.
@@damianleah6744 i hated buying at auction
Auctions are great for dumping
Clear warning lights and deliver on recovery truck?👍
BCA are crooks! I ditched them 3.5 years ago and never looked back!
Good luck Joe 🙏
Could you not change the ecu to the right colour to match the engine?
"I bought I because I liked the colour." What did your husband say when you got it home?
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LMAO You dip stick, why did you buy that money pit.
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Hope you got the extended inspection this time! Not like the BMW M1?
Can someone please enlighten me as to why the colour of an engine oil dipstick would cause a fuel pressure fault and engine management light?
I own a 2005 citroen berlingo diesel and the dipstick on that is just a dipstick that tells you the oil level when you pull it out. I'm just mystified as to why a certain colour of dipstick would cause engine faults. 🤔
The dipstick colour just indicates which type of camshaft is fitted to that particular engine, it’s colour on it’s own has no effect on the the way the engine runs.
What a nightmare! I am glad my VW Passat CC disel 2010 does not have all that cobblers! A much simpler setup.
The reason is "2010", not the fact it is a VW
I had one of those, biggest heap of shit ive ever had
@@stupossibleify If you wish to comment, try to say something that makes sense.
@@JoanCarradine Ok: "Euro 6'. Does that now make sense to you?
@@stupossibleify Nope Euro 6 did not begin until 2015, thus my car has a Euro 5 rating.
Believe me if someone has to put a superficially nice looking car through an auction for way less money than they would get on a private sale there's a MONEY PIT reason for it 😮
I'm considering purchasing a Peugeot 2008 or 3008 but I've heard mixed reviews about the puretech engines - are they to be avoided? Would prefer a petrol but not sure what other options there are.
Definitely to be avoided. The diesel is better but get the Adblue mapped out if it has it and those guys will have it doing 75 mpg.
@@pencilme1n thank you! Do you know if the DPF are an issue with these cars? I only do short journeys but my 12 year old diesel (which I've recently parted with) never gave me any problems in that respect.
I liked the cactus but that stupid puretech put me off buying it. I had no idea about dipstick differences though
"If the engine wasn't so crap, it would be a pretty good car." Yees! 🤣
I thought you said no more with no assured report .?
Could you not keep the engine but change the key ecu wiring harness for the correct one for the dipstick
Lots of headaches borrow motors , best to stick it back in the block …
Hopefully you will learn from this lesson ..
I have a Peugeot RCZ 2 litre and it has been wonderful since new
An expensive lesson learned the hard way as to why wet belt engines are best avoided.
If you do sell it, be prepared for it to haunt you.
I would stick it straight back into the auction, and absorb any loss.
It takes years to gain a good reputation, why risk it with a dodgy car.
KP15 BAV, was for sale in June and Oct 2020- £6250 with 55k, then again May 2021 £5750, 55k dead again, red flag. The wet belts shred even with correct oil and regular servicing they need to be over serviced to guarantee. The mot history is not great looks like 48k and failed on loads first mot 3 years old
Next job for you car buyer at Berrow motors, Joes Glamorours assistant.
BP15 BAV is a blue VW Golf what's it got to do with this car?
@@wayne2socialmedia nice he can’t afford me a track down real crimes
@@tootles74 Good spot KP15 BAV
MoT history also shows it had sat for three years between the most recent tests. That alone would have told me to look elsewhere.
ANY oil degrades wet belts they are DESIGNED to snap
Exactly! Just like BMW mini have a designed weak spot, a plastic bodied water pump. They know it doesn't last long and needs replacement, so screw customer out of servicing or unnecessary trade in. The majority of motor manufacturers are now just greedy who don't want their cars lasting forever, it's bad for business.
French & Dip Sticks ?, the two go hand in hand!
Get the diagnostic tool and change the basics settings or adaptation and you will fix.
I wonder if you could just swap the fuel pressure sensor for the correct engine? The ECU is only recognising pre programmed parameters. Perhaps that is one if the differences? The computer can only see differences in the maths .. it cannot see the colour of the dipstick.
Get the fuel rail/ fuel pressure switch off the yellow engine
Back in the early nineties when I was in the trade I did worse than that.. I bought a what seemed a relatively cheap,. indeed too cheap Nisan Micra from Exeter auctions without looking at it and leaving a proxy bid.. When It eventually turned up at my site here in Cornwall I found out that someone had put a fairly crap mini engine in it! Did I feel stupid or what...
What about selling to we buy any car while the engine management light is off?
Bought many from auction and I wish it was 80/20 but sometimes after a good clean I have made a profit in sending them back.
Can't you just change the ECU for one sourced from a (scrapped) Shitroen with the same variant of engine that's in this car?
Yeh spend a 0ver 500 doing that not with that margin, i would have sent it back as not motable 😊
@@DashDriver-z1r 👍
ECUs have been VIN/Immobiliser locked for well over 20 years
@@kaptinkeifflast car I replaced the ecu it had egr set to minimum (to pass MOT emission test) and immobiliser disabled
@@leexgx Correct, you have to disable the immobiliser to use the ECU, some companies offer the service for some brands
PSA know how to make good bodies (don't rust) good seats, and good suspension.. but are terrible at electronics. The switches break, the relays melt, the cables corrode, cars do weird things like wipers coming on when the car is left parked... Radio is coded to the ECU , mileage is stored in ECU and speedo... just drama all the time. The Japanese seem to make the best electrics.
remember the 1.6 diesel... dog of an engine
@@vx.calibre2901very good engine, good MPG. Only time they seem to get problems is when people don't notice the injectors working loose and keep driving them, pumping soot into the crankcase which leads to other problems. Else 300.000 miles at 65mpg, good engine!
Why pay for premium ? there’s other ways to get rid of adds that don’t cost a penny.
My 22 Corsa has a yellow dipstick its a 130 engine perhaps the colour denotes power of engines? Vw did that at one time low powered diesel cars had a red tdi badge higher powered silver!
problem is if someone had a crash then insurance will say its been mapped then they sue you for selling them a stock car they didnt know about ecu remap
'I shouldn't have bought it. I think I liked the colour'
How long have you been in the business?
I understand the difference is the inlet camshaft lobe timing is different. They should have swapped it over from the old engine.
Send it back! EML is a MOT failure regardless and you shouldn't have to be clearing it for MOT or for a customer, it's got the wrong engine for a reason, worst case scenarios on those puretech's ios it kills an engine and maybe that's what happened to this so they replaced it asap and chucked it into a auction, it's very suspicious and don't even bother with it as even parts you get now will be wrong
5,700 pounds for a car without any paperwork.
That is nuts.
why not change the ecu or get a new one and have it mapped for orange dip stick !!
Hello from Ireland again Joe. I quite like this car, everyone seems to have a Downer with this Car, for some reason 🤔 lol. I reckon it's great value lol. You're probably Cringing Joe lol 😂😂🤣😂. That's a Crime that you have to run it back through the Auction again, Joe. That's tough, but it does happen, I guess. Let us know how this Peugeot/Citroen gets on, Joe. Wicked Video again as always Mate 🙏🙏🥰👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
as a regular buyer. never touch the 1.2 engines. especily if u give 6 month warranty]
Runs fine...
Just abit lumpy 😂😂😂
How about keeping it and using it as one of / your sole courtesy / loan car ?
As it won't be out long before the light comes on so it will always be brought back to you sharpish, as no one will want to borrow it for too long.
It will be nicknamed the Citroën Boomerang. 😉
Have you ever considered a career change 😂😂😂
Pmsl 😅
Every video a car is shi* 😅.
@@greggbutler9344 very lazy putting a proxy bid in and not realising it was the 1.2 puresh#t engine
Only one dipstick here
😂❤@@davejones290
What do you do when a car is going to lose you money. Do you try and sell it privately without warranty?
I would buy the the Topdon diagnostic machine and drive the Citroen for years, just keep clearing the code when it pops up, that’s if I would ever buy a French car again, which I never will, after a nightmare with a Peugeot 307 HDi!!🤣
So are you saying that Joe has a new workshop go for, run around motor 😉 if it doesn't get enough at auction?
If someone’s put a new engine in it surely it must be under warranty?
Does the v5c have to have the new engine number added before you can sell it? Does the vine number refer to the type of engine it should have?
Well on the electronic parts catalogue in the Citroën parts department it should show what engine should only go with what VIN.
Also the V5C should have the new engine number on it.
French cars Joe - Yes Please 😂😂🙈
I had a fiat van with exactly the same problem
how much did peugeot want for the software change?
Hi what other car makes use the wet-belt, please?
Ford EcoBoost 1.0 engine (Fiesta, Focus etc) - lots of problems with those as well
Keep as a courtesy car and keep clearing the fault
get some lexia software and change the engine code
pleased for you.