Thank you guys, Dennis gives a great overview and he rides really well and knows how to evaluate bikes! He is very brutal, but hones an that's what we need. Thanks to Dennis and Co. for giving us great in depth overviews.
As someone who rides a 1986 CR250 TWO STROKE, hearing complaints about vibrations is hilarious. After a day at the track on the CR250 your hands go numb from vibration.
and next year they will revise the springs, adjust the power output, yadda yadda. How many years do they need to make it right? Every year it's the same thing, last year's model had some issues, we'll fix it this year, yeah right.
If its anything like my 250x or 450x it will be dead constantly. I am always thankful of my kickstarter after the battery goes out. We will see if reliability has improved.
it's the same every year. They release new bikes at the end of the year (Sept/Oct) and plate it for the following. If they called it a 2017 honda in October, it'd be outdated in 3 months come January 2018
Honestly I can't agree with you on that one. Maybe if you are using spray paint on stock rims. But quality rims won't end up looking like that. Can only speak for excel as that's all I've owned, but had Black Excel rims and anodized red Excel hubs on my CRF's and CR and they always cleaned up well, even after a few years of racing and bush riding. Same goes for the excel hubs, never stratched up at all.
For 2017, you had reliability issues with your test unit. (Overheating and power loss probably due to decompression device failure). I was waiting for this year to buy the revised engine, but they did no change as what I see. Is it really a problem?
I hope it’s better than the 2013 the 13 with rs- 9 yoshi s still didn’t have the peaky power curve as my 08 the 08 would wheelie in 5th no prob . But for handling I prefered the 13 suspension and cornering
I should of tried a Tokyo mods ecu with an aggressive midrange and an 8000 rpm rev limit on my 13 and maybe it would have the same power curve as my 08
braulio bun Yamaha have blue, i know excel have red rims i would Love to see those! Black for me is like silver it is kinda boring now everybody have it.
2 strokes are always faster. Much faster and way more powerful. Always !! Also weigh much less and simpler to rebuild. But its ok.. Do not be ashamed that so much power scares you.
I'm sorry. I hate the look and idea of not having a kickstart. Kickstart is a must. What's the big deal about no black rims ? All the factory bikes of the past (06 and before) had silver rims. It looks way better!
Its the same bullshit every year. And why on earth would YOU EVER remove the kickstart on the bike? Thats a CRUCIAL backup for every rider. Yes electric start is basically a MUST on new bikes but if the battery dies mid race you're done. And why no black rims? It would make the overall look 10x more complete.
bike is gonna be down in the power compared to the comp.can tell by looking at the smallish diameter headpipe.that means low-end torque no yz or kxf hit lol
tubeyou123863 that's axactly why ktm picked steel, because since it flexes more than alloy, it gives it a softer ride, and not to mention if you use aluminum, your frames have to be fat like the Japanese bikes have, if you have steel, you can make a thinner frame that flexes more. So you'll have a softer ride, and THE BIKE IS SO MUCH EASIER TO WORK ON with the steel thin frame
and also I ride a CR500 two stroke but I have no choice if I want a new bike to go 4-stroke 450 F sad to me because I never liked 4 stroke on a track totally embarrassing and if it has those two double rear funky Mufflers I will not buy it
What Idiot would buy a 4 stroke dirt bike over the same size 2 stroke? The 2 stroke is lighter, more powerful and way simpler to own and maintain. costs less too
Will never ever ever purchase a Honda again no matter how great they build them. Very bad experience with salesman and even worse with Honda. Will continue to vote with my cheque book
Worst bike in its class,. Damn honda has fell of past few years. Did i mention how hard it is 2 repair,maintenance or check their cam chain? Good luck red riders
Thank you guys, Dennis gives a great overview and he rides really well and knows how to evaluate bikes! He is very brutal, but hones an that's what we need. Thanks to Dennis and Co. for giving us great in depth overviews.
As someone who rides a 1986 CR250 TWO STROKE, hearing complaints about vibrations is hilarious. After a day at the track on the CR250 your hands go numb from vibration.
awesome honda. Very true. As powerfull as this bike is. It's a pussy bike. Electric start pffff. Lazy...
Getting of the bike and still fell like your holding handle bars , I remember that
why remove the kick starter
Snow8888 axb that is the right evolution.
its fun to kick start
Yeah ikr
what if your battery dies? well i guess ur gonna have to walk your bike back to the truck.
HDlego simply change
and next year they will revise the springs, adjust the power output, yadda yadda. How many years do they need to make it right? Every year it's the same thing, last year's model had some issues, we'll fix it this year, yeah right.
looks sick, graphics are sweet and the red fork boots are cool & we already know the engine is no slouch
How long does the engine last before rebuild is required.
Every year is the same
- Stiffer springs
- "Revised" mapping
- Friendly power output
Because Honda, Kawasaki and Yamaha follow the 4 year production cycle.
Nick121 They put on an electric starter, so that is new. I just wish they had left the kickstarter on. Now have to buy it aftermarket.
Yeah fuckin Honda
2:55 your gonna need a lawyer for that case
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Quincy O'Connor I have been racing for over 25 years and never heard that. Lmao Love it!
BLACK RIMS ADD 5 HP
Tom Jones you must be a hypebeast
Man this would be a mean two stroke!
"GO UP A TOOTH ON THE REAR" - Jody, on every bike ever made in the history of motorcycles
I don't get Hondas double silencer thing. Added weight for nothing ? I just don't get it xD.
So is a kick starter no longer an option??
That's what I'm wondering. I love the idea of electric start, but don't want to not have the option to kick start my bike if my battery dies... :/
proper maintenance will reduce the likelihood of that.
geoscience2012 its Highly unlikely it would die on you! And if you want to be on te safe side get a aftermarket battery.
If its anything like my 250x or 450x it will be dead constantly. I am always thankful of my kickstarter after the battery goes out. We will see if reliability has improved.
It's only half way through 2017 why is 18 already out
conmiester hd They release towards the end of the summer every year.
it's the same every year. They release new bikes at the end of the year (Sept/Oct) and plate it for the following. If they called it a 2017 honda in October, it'd be outdated in 3 months come January 2018
Well I would buy one but not without a kickstart
The first bike sound from this and i miss the 2-stroke. It's very hard for me to go 4-stroke. Wait a minute, no remote start?
$10,000 and no kickstarter. i cant afford this shit no more. where are the 2Ts
Uhhh lol the KTM 300 2 stroke is literally $600 more than this lmao 🤣 😂 😆 💀
@@StrykerV8 ya and the sad thing is you wouldn't be faster on a 10000 bike then I would a 500 bike..
@@2wheels1love21 sounds like you're salty i made you look stupid huh?
@@StrykerV8 oh ya!!!!
That really is a beautiful dirt bike....
Badass looking bike but man when is honda going to go over to the black wheels
No kickstart ?
Why hasn't honda adopted black rims for their stock models like the rest of the manufacturers? black rims is a no brainer!!
Black rims matter
Andy Montanez Sure if you want your bike to look more fugly. Props to Honda for not being a follower and staying off the black rim bandwagon.
Nothing about bandwagoning... Black rims just look better than stock alloy rims.
Black rims look great when they're new. Put a few hours on them and they'll be sandblasted and scratched.
Honestly I can't agree with you on that one. Maybe if you are using spray paint on stock rims. But quality rims won't end up looking like that. Can only speak for excel as that's all I've owned, but had Black Excel rims and anodized red Excel hubs on my CRF's and CR and they always cleaned up well, even after a few years of racing and bush riding. Same goes for the excel hubs, never stratched up at all.
For 2017, you had reliability issues with your test unit. (Overheating and power loss probably due to decompression device failure). I was waiting for this year to buy the revised engine, but they did no change as what I see. Is it really a problem?
Will the 2019’s come out in June/July ?
Kick start ?????
I hope it’s better than the 2013 the 13 with rs- 9 yoshi s still didn’t have the peaky power curve as my 08 the 08 would wheelie in 5th no prob . But for handling I prefered the 13 suspension and cornering
I should of tried a Tokyo mods ecu with an aggressive midrange and an 8000 rpm rev limit on my 13 and maybe it would have the same power curve as my 08
Honda I want to buy one right now but I want black rims Factory where's the black rims
Anyone know the in store date yet?
come on honda, where are the black rims!?!
braulio bun Yamaha have blue, i know excel have red rims i would Love to see those! Black for me is like silver it is kinda boring now everybody have it.
I bought some gold they make this bike stand out
Ecklund gained weight? Time for a tooth change om the rear and a new spring for him!
i thought the 2018 model has a hydraulic clutch..
What track are they at?
Druthers?
They should have kept the kickstart and have had black rims stock and where tf is the DOHC they really could've done better
would rather have a 2 stroke
grabir01
Then watch a 2 stroke video hahahaha
same
grabir01 shity power on a 2banger old tech .keep living in the past freestyle fuck fart.
2 strokes are always faster. Much faster and way more powerful. Always !! Also weigh much less and simpler to rebuild. But its ok.. Do not be ashamed that so much power scares you.
What 2 stroke has more power out of the factory then one of these?😂😂 none. 500 2 stroke might be faster. But that's about it
Solid review
name of the song?
Seven Lions & Echos - Cold Skin
Vocês dos EUA tem muita sorte em te uma moto dessa por esses valor Brasil só milionário pra compra
Everyone's complaining about the bike not having black rims. Just go out and buy some new rims and put them on ya lazy bums😂
No Kickstarter at all?....gonna stick with my '08
Damn beautiful bike, My first choice for a 2018 bike. I would put some gold rims on it. On the downside, the epic gay music didn't go with the video.
113kg? in 2018 why are these still so heavy, my 2t 250 is almost 20kg lighter than this and it's 20yrs older,
Carlospicywiener more material simple as that! And FIM and AMA got weight rules for the different displacements mate
I'm sorry. I hate the look and idea of not having a kickstart. Kickstart is a must.
What's the big deal about no black rims ? All the factory bikes of the past (06 and before) had silver rims. It looks way better!
Bruh this is sunrise mx
Belleza
Essa Moto é muito top
Isnt it Amazing that all manufacturers change big stuff all at same time,,,?? Isnt Kawasaki & Suzuki the same,,?? Just a different color
I don't need new fangled bikes..I can kick ass on my 1972 CT 175 Yamahahaha
Anthony Gonzalez lol
Where is this track?
I can choke down a 4 stroke, but when they said it was a push start and no kick, I almost puked and was done!
No replacement for two stroke.
cfr450x best one.
so sick!!!
Its the same bullshit every year. And why on earth would YOU EVER remove the kickstart on the bike? Thats a CRUCIAL backup for every rider. Yes electric start is basically a MUST on new bikes but if the battery dies mid race you're done. And why no black rims? It would make the overall look 10x more complete.
Wow, here's the silver rims again
Want the rim's black paint them black, vinyl wrap them black, or use you're imagination, easy fix.
groso estas igual
2017 front fender looked way better tbh
Nice
It's a fast bike tho
bike is gonna be down in the power compared to the comp.can tell by looking at the smallish diameter headpipe.that means low-end torque no yz or kxf hit lol
brum brum on me honda grom #gromsqaud life
Every manufacturer should just run a traditional steel frame and the world would be a better place.
Not true cause you can tune flex better with diff grades of alloy
Dylan Lengyel KTM runs a steel frame :)
Marcus Bevzyuk that's exactly why Ive ran new ktms over the Hondas and still race a done up 96 cr250 😉
alloy wont flex like steel
tubeyou123863 that's axactly why ktm picked steel, because since it flexes more than alloy, it gives it a softer ride, and not to mention if you use aluminum, your frames have to be fat like the Japanese bikes have, if you have steel, you can make a thinner frame that flexes more. So you'll have a softer ride, and THE BIKE IS SO MUCH EASIER TO WORK ON with the steel thin frame
Where's the black rims 😫😒😒
linda!
Love Honda but I'm sure millions of mx riders want the 2 stroke back.
and also I ride a CR500 two stroke but I have no choice if I want a new bike to go 4-stroke 450 F sad to me because I never liked 4 stroke on a track totally embarrassing and if it has those two double rear funky Mufflers I will not buy it
Who else thinks that guy talks like he's got a mouth full of marbles
What Idiot would buy a 4 stroke dirt bike over the same size 2 stroke? The 2 stroke is lighter, more powerful and way simpler to own and maintain. costs less too
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fuxk electric start
Will never ever ever purchase a Honda again no matter how great they build them. Very bad experience with salesman and even worse with Honda. Will continue to vote with my cheque book
sob sob sob my dirt bike is vibrating sob sob sob. Has the whole world gone mad?
fuck this thing is heavy at 250lbs. I will not be buying honda until they get back down to 228 like in 2007 and stupid dual exhaust is a gimmick.
Worst bike in its class,. Damn honda has fell of past few years. Did i mention how hard it is 2 repair,maintenance or check their cam chain? Good luck red riders
No Kickstarter at all?....gonna stick with my '08
I'll admire your kickstarter as I pass you
@@StrykerV8 Whatever makes you feel better about your purchase bud.
@@MotoBuilds reread your initial comment and tell me who's trying to justify their bike
@@StrykerV8 whatever you say bud