HONDA CRF450 What we hate: 1. Clutch. The clutch is weak. Get rid of the judder spring and small plate. 2. Radiators. It overheats and boils water like a teapot as dirt gets stuck in the radiator guards. 3. Exhaust. Can’t complain about the horsepower, but we don’t give any of the credit to the twice pipes. We also don’t like how far the head pipe sticks out. Some riders hit it when they put their leg out. 4. Handling. It likes to turn but is very busy between corners. 5. Weight. 238 pounds is exactly 15 pounds too much. 6. Sound. On the 2-meter-max sound test, it blew 117.5 dB. That’s loud, but it passed the 94 dB Amateur sound test. 7. Setup. We never had as much trouble getting a chassis to work in conjunction with the engine and suspension. This is a very sensitive bike. 8. Forks. The fork aren’t as soft as the KX450 forks, yet they don’t have good bottoming resistance. Nobody likes to feel that harsh bottoming sensation. What we like: 1. Horsepower. It is obvious that Honda is over their “slow-is-better” phase. With 60.21 horses, it is an awesome engine from bottom to top. 2. Ergos. Nothing feels as nice, comfy and well-laid-out as a CRF450. 3. Electric starting. Ken Roczen dropped it for the weight, but we’ll keep it for the ease of use. 4. Maps. We like the maps, but we always ran the stock one. The aggressive map felt crisper but actually gave up one horse everywhere. 5. Handlebars. Lower is better. The oversize Renthal FatBars mean adios to 7/8th inch bars. 6. Launch control. This is the first time that Honda added launch control. It is overly complicated but offers three different settings.
Picking on a bike's suspension as a 'con' only because you're not heavy enough isn't fair on Honda. I'm 240 pounds and there aren't any bike on the market that are set up for my weight from factory but I don't hold that against the manufacturer. Obviously Honda saw the demand from consumers for heavier springs this year. It's not their fault that you're lighter than majority of their customers. Otherwise great video man!
steve b honestly bro I’m equally fast on both, Ive been riding and racing 450s for a while now I’m I don’t toot my own horn usually but I’m pretty fast
he cries about the dual exhaust then he says he loves it the levers can be changed if he doesnt like the up and down play, the battery is 100 dollars when you buy a after market by wps. this is not the most powerful bike but it has good power. i own a 2017 and added exhaust and pipes and electric start. next week i will have a 14.1 piston and a ported and polished head,
The dual exhausts are actually only a 3rd higher in price, the header is tapered for more high end pull in the powerband and it will naturally put out a lot of heat, the levers have play to keep the chances of them breaking to a minimum. 450 riders are usually heavier in weight and taller in height, Honda put stiffer springs in because everyone said they were too soft in 2017. Honda designed a battery specifically for their 250r and 450r, because they wanted it to weigh less and be less of a fire hazard than standard lithium ion batteries which are also much heavier. Your cons are legitimate, but they do all of these things for a reason, performance comes at a price these days.
@@Dsklar41 Hey, I wont dare try to justify the cost of that battery. :) Just telling you what I know. I wish they would have put lighter springs on my 08 too lol. And I love dirtbikes in general, so I just look up this kind of stuff in my free time.
I consider myself a Honda fan, but have switched colors. It's nice to see they are finally willing to play the game and compete. Definitely a sharp bike! Thanks for sharing your opinions. While I do not share all of them, opinions are neither right or wrong.
Jason Herwig hey man yeah I adjusted the sag and the clickers when I got my suspension done, hmm that’s interesting because I have ASV levers and perches and they don’t wiggle
@@Dsklar41 so even with the stock suspension being adjusted you still thought they were for like heavier riders? What your saying is that they aren't bad just made for bigger riders?
Jason Herwig precisely!! Before I changed the springs I messed with the clickers and sag and still too stiff, I mention that cause not everyone especially in my league of racing is 180lbs for the younger ppl like me racing those stocks springs just don’t work, and this bike dances a little bit on rollers and Braking bumps it’s not as stable as some other bikes
@@Dsklar41 ohhhh ok I see what you were saying. Wasn't throwing shade just I didn't really get what you were saying until no. Kind of obvious tho haha. thanks man appreciate it. sick vid btw
Awesome vid bro! I just wanted to share my experiences with that battery loaded on the bike. I have an 18 crf450r which is for the most part the same bike. I ride maybe once or twice a month and have had the bike for about 6 months now and have had absolutely no issues with the batter dying surprisingly. I trickle charged it just out of curiosity this last month and only had to charge for literally 2 minutes before it was charged back to full again which was great! My personal opinion is that the battery is much better than most people believe.
Joseph Wagner thanks bro! So I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure they changed the battery in the 19, not sure if your is lithium or not, but I got warned about it from two different dealerships and mechanics, I always put mine on a trickle charger when I’m not riding it
Dsklar41 ya mine was a lithium battery but u have a good practice there with having it on the charger whenever ur not using it. We gotta ride some time bro
Don’t listen to the blow hards about your “light” weight. When I was younger I was about 138 soaking wet. However, their was no one that could touch me on my RM and they all were heavier than me and a lot of them were on 250s . It not about weight. It about skill... period!! Good review!
Very good comments and feedback on the bike. I like the cons as most reviews don't mention things like the cost of a lithium battery or the dual cost to replace mufflers.
Scratched clutch cover isnt from “shotty” coating.... its boot rub... you can either powder coat it, strip it so it’s raw aluminum, or wear fuzzy bunny slippers when you ride.... that’s not even a legit complaint. Fork spring weight is a legit gripe. I doubt Honda will ever address the lever issues because most people break them and replace them so no need to throw money at a consumable part.
Ooo fuzzy boots 😂 that’s funny but yeah I see your point with the forks I completely changed mine too however it is something to keep in mind for off the showroom floor
You make it sound like the suspension was bad but in reality it’s just set up from factory for a bigger rider. Most people i know who ride are 170-185. I’m right around 175-180 so this would be perfect for me. Anyways nice vid dude, keep up the good work.
okay when you start your bike does it blink once then a long red blink then a few blue blinks right? The blue blinks are you map but the red is 1 fast blink then a long one
The good thing is most of the stuff that you didn't like about the bike can be fixed except for the price on that exhaust and how far to exhaust sticks out from the bike I just want to say you've probably never wrote a two stroke. If you're worried about how far that exhaust header sticks out. Otherwise great video bro.😂👍
Aaron Martin TV oh I’ve rode plenty of two strokes but those pipes are different can’t really compare but thanks for the liking my vid! Glad you enjoyed
$150 for a feather weight battery, $50 for a cheap lithium. Adjusting your cable clutch properly will get rid off 99% of that lever play. Acerbis side cover protectors will keep your engine looking frozen.
Michael Smith I personally like Honda’s but I hear Yamaha has really out done almost everyone, I suggest if you can ride both, straddle both and see which bike you like better, remember any bike can be your perfect bike with parts and suspension job it’s almost what comes with more from the factory
Wtf complaining about the stock suspension just cause it isn’t right for you and complaining about levers being loose cable clutches are always like that if you gonna complain about them get different levers
Josh Dean wtf complaining about my review just cause your bored and not being thankful to try and help with making a decision about a new bike it’s something to be aware of if your a lite rider like me
If it’s anything like the new 250 you be happy. Only been out twice on mine and man does it handle well and coming of the 2015 very happy with the power increase.
Not to be rude, but no bike other that a pw50 is sprung from the factory for your weight. You skinny bro.😁 and you shouldn't have any issues with that battery, but if you do dont buy one for $500 that's just stupid, you can get lithium batteries for well under $200.
I’m 5’10 but I am light, I assume you are to? I’d suggest sitting on one and see how you feel, depending on your skill level it may be better if you got a 250, if height is the problem have the seat cut for you I have a friend who is really short and she had her seat cut and a full size bike fits her better
JSM Beatz if you are an experienced rider it sounds like your like me then I have tons of experience, I may be tall but I only weight 132lbs but with my experience I can easily handle a 450! I did set my bike up for me when I got it tho whatever bike you get it’s important that you do the same. I’d say if you got the experience go for it!!!
Well according to the magazines (dirt rider) (mxa mag) the bike handles amazing, best in class and it’s got the most top end so yeah I would, plus the looks are so good!!! U can make it more powerful with money of course
@@Dsklar41 just picking! Not sure if I like all the bells and whistles though? The exhaust is cool, but does it add weight? But the one thing that I hate is no kick start? Why delete it?
Robert Pate I’m not sure if they weigh more or not I do know that this is the second heaviest bike in the class however it makes up for it in power and handing and when I ride it doesn’t feel heavy at all
Lithium Batteris if you buy them in the UK (aftermarket ones) are around $100. I've got one on my 2007 CRF450. If you are stupid you buy the Honda one for $500, Probably made in the same factory except they are marked up Honda instead of Yuasa...
What they look like and what they actually are compared to other manufacturers, are night and day different. A lithium battery isn’t $500 either, not sure where you got that number. Honda has THE best quality of any manufacturer out there.
When weather permits I’m going to make a video testing it and we will all find out but when I raced and stalled it I pulled in the clutch released it and nothing happened
First off they are bigger in person and second doesn’t matter how big you are, I work out 5 days a week 6 if u count practice every weekend, I’m very strong and I have great endurance
Yeah 5 pros, 1. You can plaster the bike with HRC parts with the money you saved not gettin the werx edition. 2. I don't need a 2 after a 1 like that . Yeah 5 cons, 1. When you said the springs are wrong for a 450 coming in at seven meters. 2. You get da idea.
Keep me in mind when you want to sell your stock exhaust. I’d like to buy a full system (header and mufflers) for a 2019 CRF450r or WE (dreaming). Thanks
I hear Honda clutch is pretty shitty. I have a CRF150r, and would have to rev the engine in 1st gear to prevent the engine from stalling. Riding at slow speeds in the trails is not fun on this bike. I don't know if the 250s and 450 4 stroke fees the same.
@@Dsklar41 I own newer YZ250F and YZ450F bikes, and the clutch feel on those bikes don't stall at slow speeds like the CRF150r. Yes, there is some clutch work involved on the Yammies but nothing like the CRF150r. That lil bike has a very touchy clutch
Brandon Jackson like I keep telling everyone else, that’s what the dealer told me, I found out later that it doesn’t cost that same price as the husky battery and I didn’t buy any battery yet
Thats crazy my honda dealership took very good care of me.they gave me a 5 year warranty on the battery replace it for free at no cost to me.they even told me without insurance if my bike got stolen they would give me 5,000 for another bike
Cool man hmu we can go ride some badass trails Aetna mountain 60 plus miles of riding and hardcore hillclimbs.its free to go ride there and people go there to get drunk and raise hell
Yessir, everything is relatively easy to get to, I work on my own stuff too except major engine repairs, I don’t have too much trouble with it, it has been an extremely reliable bike so far and if you take good care of it it will take good care of you! Good luck with whatever bike you get and have fun
@@Dsklar41 all I have right now is a kx65 that I made into a pit bike. I looked at the new Honda 250s and the yz250s as well. I'm ready to buy just can't make my mind up if I want a race bike or a dual sport bike lol.
@@mitchellfield7239 No I don't think so but I do know that lithium battery's cant be recovered when they die all the way (there is a video by vegas romaniac where he starts his yz250fx without a battery but it runs awful)
Hi. I disagree on nearly all cons- Except Dual pipe, yes it is more expensive. Battery- you can get China one for 30$ Springs- first time I can hear that?? Some salesman just sold you idea to change them.😉 Good luck.✊💨
Thats more than 10% of the cost. It doesnt make sense to spend that much on one part. Fyi 2 stroke complete systems cost ab 500 so I disagree with ur logic
The suspension is NEVER perfect for any rider straight from the crate, not sure what you weigh, but you look like 250f weight, so the springs will feel a bit stiff. I have to say, your nitpicking is hilarious. These bikes come with phenomenal suspension, as close to A-Kit stuff as you can get without smashing your little sisters piggy bank to pay for it. Honda has the best quality period, the exhaust is what it is, you can wrap the header pipe to keep the heat down. The battery can be replaced with a regular battery when and if it needs it. A trickle charger solves that issue. The clutch cover coating is going to rub off, if it didn’t,you weren’t holding on with your feet and legs like you should. Rip that thing and appreciate it for what it is, a bad ass bike. I am one of those “older gentleman” you speak of and appreciate the electric start, but have to agree, it is missing the kicker as a backup. They had to save weight somewhere..... Ride it like you stole it. C442 #FAHQforLIFE
I wondered why they deleted the kick start , now I know ... 500.00 for a small battery and saving on a kick start ! what a rip off. Once the guys get stranded or buy a few batteries they stop buying bikes , so there you go Honda, KTM .... you just kicked yourself in the ass , good for you!
Lol! However I have been informed that it doesn’t actually cost $500.00 the dealer lied to me u can actually find them for about $100-$150ish sorry for the confusion but yeah I agree it should have a fail safe (Kickstarter)
I can handle a 44 magnum just fine. But I'm better with a 9mm. I can handle a 450 but I'm better on a 150 xcw. 54 years old till I admitted it. Nice bike though!👍
Bob Lee Swagger first I love your movie 😂 and second Ive put my time on a 250 it’s not about being big and bulky it’s about being strong and having good endurance. I ride a 450 cause I can handle it no problem
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HONDA CRF450
What we hate:
1. Clutch. The clutch is weak. Get rid of the judder spring and small plate.
2. Radiators. It overheats and boils water like a teapot as dirt gets stuck in the radiator guards.
3. Exhaust. Can’t complain about the horsepower, but we don’t give any of the credit to the twice pipes. We also don’t like how far the head pipe sticks out. Some riders hit it when they put their leg out.
4. Handling. It likes to turn but is very busy between corners.
5. Weight. 238 pounds is exactly 15 pounds too much.
6. Sound. On the 2-meter-max sound test, it blew 117.5 dB. That’s loud, but it passed the 94 dB Amateur sound test.
7. Setup. We never had as much trouble getting a chassis to work in conjunction with the engine and suspension. This is a very sensitive bike.
8. Forks. The fork aren’t as soft as the KX450 forks, yet they don’t have good bottoming resistance. Nobody likes to feel that harsh bottoming sensation.
What we like:
1. Horsepower. It is obvious that Honda is over their “slow-is-better” phase. With 60.21 horses, it is an awesome engine from bottom to top.
2. Ergos. Nothing feels as nice, comfy and well-laid-out as a CRF450.
3. Electric starting. Ken Roczen dropped it for the weight, but we’ll keep it for the ease of use.
4. Maps. We like the maps, but we always ran the stock one. The aggressive map felt crisper but actually gave up one horse everywhere.
5. Handlebars. Lower is better. The oversize Renthal FatBars mean adios to 7/8th inch bars.
6. Launch control. This is the first time that Honda added launch control. It is overly complicated but offers three different settings.
Wow very good info!! I’ll pin this comment thanks !!!
how do you deal with the cons? battery discharge?
I don't think this guy knows much about motorcycles 🤔
Cory Ellis I mean I’ve been riding my whole life and racing too but whatever🤷🏻♂️ it’s all good 😁
@@Dsklar41 could of fooled me
Cory Ellis I try lol
Negus Benjamin
Cory Ellis have u seen his shirt😂
FYI Every Bike on the market has levers that wiggle like that. It has nothing to do with Honda or quality.
The Cat's Pajamas I just noticed that the Honda’s are worse and that they visually don’t look as high quality as some others
Your full of shit kid My Kx250 came with Bearings in my clutch lever so mine doesn't wiggle Hinda just needs to fix that shit
Dsklar41 because you probs dropped the bike
Peyton Roberts that’s called a hydraulic clutch dumbass. That’s completely different than the cable clutch that Honda still uses.
Peyton Roberts my bad bud thought you were taking about the new 450
Picking on a bike's suspension as a 'con' only because you're not heavy enough isn't fair on Honda. I'm 240 pounds and there aren't any bike on the market that are set up for my weight from factory but I don't hold that against the manufacturer. Obviously Honda saw the demand from consumers for heavier springs this year. It's not their fault that you're lighter than majority of their customers. Otherwise great video man!
JacksonEnduro I’ll keep that in mind the next time, thanks for the feedback it really helps!!
JacksonEnduro I weigh 106 pounds and I’m not to picky ab suspension and I have 2019 crf250r, and I love riding it.
Why are you riding a 450
Haha because I know how to ride and handle one and I race 450 classes
Dsklar41 mhmmm
Dsklar41 you should be riding a 250. You’d probably be faster.
steve b hahaaaaa
steve b honestly bro I’m equally fast on both, Ive been riding and racing 450s for a while now I’m I don’t toot my own horn usually but I’m pretty fast
I like how you start it and pin-it to limit. Nice😲
quadcityracing thanks man!!!
quadcityracing nothing like bouncing the limiter of a cold engine 🤣🤣
Chris K. It was semi cold I started it off camera for a couple of min 😂
Ignore most of these people on here and keep doing what you like to do. Cheers,
Arthur Draper thanks for the kind words!! Means a lot glad you like the video
the levers move so hey dont snap
he cries about the dual exhaust then he says he loves it the levers can be changed if he doesnt like the up and down play, the battery is 100 dollars when you buy a after market by wps. this is not the most powerful bike but it has good power. i own a 2017 and added exhaust and pipes and electric start. next week i will have a 14.1 piston and a ported and polished head,
Bruce Calvert
HONDA CRF450R Peak HP: 57.51, Peak Torque: 35.13
YAMAHA YZ450F Peak HP: 55.30, Peak Torque: 33.61
KAWASAKI KX450 Peak HP: 54.34, 34.02
KTM 450SX-F Peak HP: 56.08, Peak Torque: 35.19
HUSQVARNA FC450 Peak HP: 55.43, Peak Torque: 34.46
SUZUKI RM-Z450 Peak HP: 52.53, Peak Torque: 34.06
Luc Ditton thanks man!!!
Dsklar41 no problem bro 👌🏻
That my friend is not a cylinder head
I meant engine head
You mean valve cover
Why do you buy a 450 if both the power and suspension beats you up? You are built like a mini rider and should do better on a 250f
Power doesn’t beat me up, but I bought one cause I’m a pretty advanced rider and I changed the suspension so it fit me
The dual exhausts are actually only a 3rd higher in price, the header is tapered for more high end pull in the powerband and it will naturally put out a lot of heat, the levers have play to keep the chances of them breaking to a minimum. 450 riders are usually heavier in weight and taller in height, Honda put stiffer springs in because everyone said they were too soft in 2017. Honda designed a battery specifically for their 250r and 450r, because they wanted it to weigh less and be less of a fire hazard than standard lithium ion batteries which are also much heavier. Your cons are legitimate, but they do all of these things for a reason, performance comes at a price these days.
Kyle S thanks for the good info man this will help a lot of people I’ll pin it
@@Dsklar41 Hey, I wont dare try to justify the cost of that battery. :) Just telling you what I know. I wish they would have put lighter springs on my 08 too lol. And I love dirtbikes in general, so I just look up this kind of stuff in my free time.
Kyle S haha same thanks for watching man ride safe
@@Dsklar41 You too!
lithium batteries weigh bugger all, whoever makes them. the sealed lead acid one it replaces was around 5 times the weight
I consider myself a Honda fan, but have switched colors. It's nice to see they are finally willing to play the game and compete. Definitely a sharp bike! Thanks for sharing your opinions. While I do not share all of them, opinions are neither right or wrong.
MrRRRR1Rob thank you for watching!!!! I hope you are happy with whatever bike u have!!! As your having fun, happy new year
Hey bud you can adjust sag and suspension to your weight. also pretty much all levers wiggle. I have asv levers that wiggle and they work just fine
Jason Herwig hey man yeah I adjusted the sag and the clickers when I got my suspension done, hmm that’s interesting because I have ASV levers and perches and they don’t wiggle
@@Dsklar41 oh well wiggling isn't really bad, I don't know maybe it's just mine but I don't think it's that big of deal
@@Dsklar41 so even with the stock suspension being adjusted you still thought they were for like heavier riders? What your saying is that they aren't bad just made for bigger riders?
Jason Herwig precisely!! Before I changed the springs I messed with the clickers and sag and still too stiff, I mention that cause not everyone especially in my league of racing is 180lbs for the younger ppl like me racing those stocks springs just don’t work, and this bike dances a little bit on rollers and Braking bumps it’s not as stable as some other bikes
@@Dsklar41 ohhhh ok I see what you were saying. Wasn't throwing shade just I didn't really get what you were saying until no. Kind of obvious tho haha. thanks man appreciate it. sick vid btw
Great vid. But as far as the coating, NO coating will stand up to boots rubbing it. That's why most manufacturers leave it the raw metal color.
Yeah I mean if they wanted it black and it looks good, they should have had a black clutch cover not a silver one coated black
Yeah I think the issue is that there is not black metal....so they've had to do some kind of plastic one. Haha
Exactly!!
Skateboard tape cut to fit.
Awesome vid bro! I just wanted to share my experiences with that battery loaded on the bike. I have an 18 crf450r which is for the most part the same bike. I ride maybe once or twice a month and have had the bike for about 6 months now and have had absolutely no issues with the batter dying surprisingly. I trickle charged it just out of curiosity this last month and only had to charge for literally 2 minutes before it was charged back to full again which was great! My personal opinion is that the battery is much better than most people believe.
Joseph Wagner thanks bro! So I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure they changed the battery in the 19, not sure if your is lithium or not, but I got warned about it from two different dealerships and mechanics, I always put mine on a trickle charger when I’m not riding it
Dsklar41 ya mine was a lithium battery but u have a good practice there with having it on the charger whenever ur not using it. We gotta ride some time bro
Joseph Wagner absolutely, hit me up on my insta @dsklar41 and we can plan something soon
The 19’s have several big changes from the 18’s
Andy Wear yeah I was reading more about that after I made this vid
I agree, Honda CRF 450 is the most good looking dirt bike.
he just looks like he rides like a goon
Ok
Don’t listen to the blow hards about your “light” weight. When I was younger I was about 138 soaking wet.
However, their was no one that could touch me on my RM and they all were heavier than me and a lot of them were on 250s . It not about weight. It about skill... period!!
Good review!
Thank you man!!! Means a lot
how do you deal with the cons? Especially the battery discharge?
Very good comments and feedback on the bike. I like the cons as most reviews don't mention things like the cost of a lithium battery or the dual cost to replace mufflers.
Glad this video can help you!! Thanks for watching
Scratched clutch cover isnt from “shotty” coating.... its boot rub... you can either powder coat it, strip it so it’s raw aluminum, or wear fuzzy bunny slippers when you ride.... that’s not even a legit complaint. Fork spring weight is a legit gripe. I doubt Honda will ever address the lever issues because most people break them and replace them so no need to throw money at a consumable part.
Ooo fuzzy boots 😂 that’s funny but yeah I see your point with the forks I completely changed mine too however it is something to keep in mind for off the showroom floor
Battery not 500d get it from uk £84 you being ripped off
Bump start
bumper buud..
You make it sound like the suspension was bad but in reality it’s just set up from factory for a bigger rider. Most people i know who ride are 170-185. I’m right around 175-180 so this would be perfect for me. Anyways nice vid dude, keep up the good work.
SonGokuSSJ3 thank you!
How can the springs be a con? The 450 isnt sprung for a SuperMini rider
Dude get a bike that fits you like an 85cc. Let the big boys ride the big boy bikes!
Father Time 😂😂😂 I’ll bare that in mind
okay when you start your bike does it blink once then a long red blink then a few blue blinks right? The blue blinks are you map but the red is 1 fast blink then a long one
The good thing is most of the stuff that you didn't like about the bike can be fixed except for the price on that exhaust and how far to exhaust sticks out from the bike I just want to say you've probably never wrote a two stroke. If you're worried about how far that exhaust header sticks out. Otherwise great video bro.😂👍
Aaron Martin TV oh I’ve rode plenty of two strokes but those pipes are different can’t really compare but thanks for the liking my vid! Glad you enjoyed
$150 for a feather weight battery, $50 for a cheap lithium. Adjusting your cable clutch properly will get rid off 99% of that lever play. Acerbis side cover protectors will keep your engine looking frozen.
Amazing video bro !! Thank you so much
Thank you!!! I appreciate the love!!
Should I buy this bike or the Yamaha ?
Michael Smith I personally like Honda’s but I hear Yamaha has really out done almost everyone, I suggest if you can ride both, straddle both and see which bike you like better, remember any bike can be your perfect bike with parts and suspension job it’s almost what comes with more from the factory
Buy this one, I just rode the Yamaha's at GTR Demo and they are trash.
The MX Guru That’s interesting I want to review one soon but that helps thanks for your input!!
@@mxgryan I got 2018 kx450f 5900$ out the door awesome bike
Great choice bro, I'm a kawi guru and I ride a 2016 and love it as well.
Realistically, how many young riders like this a racing 450’s? Just seem like a lot of bike for a young rider
Curious what everyone else thinks but I don't mind the silver rims on the 18 and older CRF
CLIFF TOR The only thing I liked about the silver rims is that it doesn’t show scratches after a tire change like the black does lol
Great video! Love your bike bro
Thanks man!!! Means a lot
Wtf complaining about the stock suspension just cause it isn’t right for you and complaining about levers being loose cable clutches are always like that if you gonna complain about them get different levers
Josh Dean wtf complaining about my review just cause your bored and not being thankful to try and help with making a decision about a new bike it’s something to be aware of if your a lite rider like me
If electric start doesn’t work can’t ya just bump it ?
Beau Moore I keep getting asked this and you know what, I’m going to make a video testing it
did you install a fan kit?
I’m hoping to buy the new 250rx model when it hits the dealers very excited to see how it performs
Broc Smith sweet man!!! Gotta let me review it lol
If it’s anything like the new 250 you be happy. Only been out twice on mine and man does it handle well and coming of the 2015 very happy with the power increase.
RudeDog #999 did u just buy a 2019 250?
Yes. Still running the engine in.
RudeDog #999 sweet man congrats on the new bike! Gotta let me review it lol
I've had my KTM sit for over 3 weeks and starts up with a press of the button.
Not to be rude, but no bike other that a pw50 is sprung from the factory for your weight. You skinny bro.😁 and you shouldn't have any issues with that battery, but if you do dont buy one for $500 that's just stupid, you can get lithium batteries for well under $200.
MotoMadMan 45 not rude at all I know I’m a light weight and I just keep my battery plugged in on a trickle charger all of the time
My battery costs just 30$ and its running perfect. wtf
Beautyful bike I bought a bran new CRF450X when Honda first released them in 2005 loverly bikes,great video by the way 👍
SNK NEO-GEO thanks for the support!!! How you like it ?
@@Dsklar41 The 450X I had was a nice bike very timid compared to my CR500 I had 7 years before it.
How tall are you cause I feel like I’m too short for a 450 I’m 5’5 so do you think I should buy one
I’m 5’10 but I am light, I assume you are to? I’d suggest sitting on one and see how you feel, depending on your skill level it may be better if you got a 250, if height is the problem have the seat cut for you I have a friend who is really short and she had her seat cut and a full size bike fits her better
Dsklar41 I’ve been to my local Honda but they don’t have 450’s but I think height wouldn’t matter if I’m an experienced rider ?
JSM Beatz if you are an experienced rider it sounds like your like me then I have tons of experience, I may be tall but I only weight 132lbs but with my experience I can easily handle a 450! I did set my bike up for me when I got it tho whatever bike you get it’s important that you do the same. I’d say if you got the experience go for it!!!
Dsklar41 yeah I have lots of experience with dirtbikes ive been riding every day for 1 year
JSM Beatz yeah man then go for it!!! It’s a great bike
The dual exhaust is heavy too, I’m probably going to buy the whole fmf system that switches it to a single exhaust for my 18, you lose like 4-5 pounds
Andrew Poulson yeah it’s cheaper too
my battery sat for 6 months and never lost a volt
Billster what year do u have
You can find a lot of aftermarket Batteries for under 500$ bud
Josh Oconnell yeah I found that out lol everyone got mad at me for saying that, thanks for your help, when you help me you help everyone else too
Would like to buy the 2019 250f but someone told me that it has a bad midrange power?!?
Well according to the magazines (dirt rider) (mxa mag) the bike handles amazing, best in class and it’s got the most top end so yeah I would, plus the looks are so good!!! U can make it more powerful with money of course
Dsklar41 thanks mate... my two favorites just in time:
Kx250f 2017-2018
Or the
Crf250r 2019
Love the crf tech and look
AeroR of course! Glad I can help
Too old to kick start, ok sport, whatever?
Robert Pate haha I meant it’s easier for everyone
@@Dsklar41 just picking! Not sure if I like all the bells and whistles though? The exhaust is cool, but does it add weight? But the one thing that I hate is no kick start? Why delete it?
Robert Pate yeah the dual exhaust adds more weight but not sure y they deleted the kick starter good question
@@Dsklar41 they say for weight? Like the starter and battery dosen weigh more?
Robert Pate I’m not sure if they weigh more or not I do know that this is the second heaviest bike in the class however it makes up for it in power and handing and when I ride it doesn’t feel heavy at all
Lithium Batteris if you buy them in the UK (aftermarket ones) are around $100. I've got one on my 2007 CRF450. If you are stupid you buy the Honda one for $500, Probably made in the same factory except they are marked up Honda instead of Yuasa...
Yeah I did my research and your right batteries don’t cost 500
What they look like and what they actually are compared to other manufacturers, are night and day different. A lithium battery isn’t $500 either, not sure where you got that number.
Honda has THE best quality of any manufacturer out there.
Your not starting it without a kickstart or electric start? Can you not bump start it?🤦🏻♂️
When weather permits I’m going to make a video testing it and we will all find out but when I raced and stalled it I pulled in the clutch released it and nothing happened
Dsklar41 interesting, will look forward to that video. Thanks for the reply.
Luke White ok I posted the test check it out
Man how do you hold on with those arms no offence
First off they are bigger in person and second doesn’t matter how big you are, I work out 5 days a week 6 if u count practice every weekend, I’m very strong and I have great endurance
Give the kid a break! A lot of these negative comments just show immature behavior!!
I hate feeling shit in my pant legs
Wut lol?
@@Dsklar41 @ 0.51
Maggieba lol got it now 😂
Yeah 5 pros, 1. You can plaster the bike with HRC parts with the money you saved not gettin the werx edition. 2. I don't need a 2 after a 1 like that . Yeah 5 cons, 1. When you said the springs are wrong for a 450 coming in at seven meters. 2. You get da idea.
2019 came with hydronic clutch already?
No Honda still has cable clutch
Keep me in mind when you want to sell your stock exhaust. I’d like to buy a full system (header and mufflers) for a 2019 CRF450r or WE (dreaming). Thanks
Rod Z I’ll keep that in mind thanks man
I just bought a 2020 Same bike but I hate the pipes of the heat because it burns my pants all the time
Yeah but if u change the pipes from stock it’s better
8:30 now it needs top end rebuild xD
DannyS hahah so far so good 😂
That wear on the clutch cover is defo not 1 ride old
No it’s one 1 hour old I’m not kidding lol
Dsklar41 I have a new Honda and mine is just starting it lol
seth n when did you get yours and when did the finish come off
Dsklar41 Started after 8 hours
seth n hmm interesting
Wait so do you like the twin exhausts or not😂
potato villian lol I like them just not the price of them lol
I hear Honda clutch is pretty shitty. I have a CRF150r, and would have to rev the engine in 1st gear to prevent the engine from stalling. Riding at slow speeds in the trails is not fun on this bike. I don't know if the 250s and 450 4 stroke fees the same.
If you primarily trail ride, you should get a 150f, the r is a race bike and is geared more for the track, that’s why
@@Dsklar41 I own newer YZ250F and YZ450F bikes, and the clutch feel on those bikes don't stall at slow speeds like the CRF150r. Yes, there is some clutch work involved on the Yammies but nothing like the CRF150r. That lil bike has a very touchy clutch
Bro the lithium battery for my Husqvarna was 149$ where are you buying a battery for 500$
Brandon Jackson like I keep telling everyone else, that’s what the dealer told me, I found out later that it doesn’t cost that same price as the husky battery and I didn’t buy any battery yet
That looks like the stock shock to me
The actual shock is stock but I changed the springs
You had the suspension changed so if will definitely handle different then stock
MR MOTOCROSS yeah it does, because I’m light weight the stock was way too stiff for me however stock may be fine for others
Thats crazy my honda dealership took very good care of me.they gave me a 5 year warranty on the battery replace it for free at no cost to me.they even told me without insurance if my bike got stolen they would give me 5,000 for another bike
Wow must be nice what dealership is that?
Southern honda powersports
In Chattanooga
Ah no way in TN? I’m moving there in two months would be nice to have someone to ride with
Cool man hmu we can go ride some badass trails Aetna mountain 60 plus miles of riding and hardcore hillclimbs.its free to go ride there and people go there to get drunk and raise hell
So the battery dies no kick start also can’t you just bump start it? Tf
Hard Clapz yeah check this out ua-cam.com/video/RsAXtjSVc_c/v-deo.html
Dsklar41 thanks
Looking for my fist bike want a reliable bike that looks good ... I personally like to work on my vehicles so I assume Honda bikes are easy to work on
Yessir, everything is relatively easy to get to, I work on my own stuff too except major engine repairs, I don’t have too much trouble with it, it has been an extremely reliable bike so far and if you take good care of it it will take good care of you! Good luck with whatever bike you get and have fun
So basically....... zero cons. Homie needs to gain weight.
I only mentioned suspension once as a con the rest has nothing to do with my weight
Suspension, no it’s set up for Supercross, and if you can’t take one race without being “beat up” you need to work out 😂
You can get a battery for under $30, not very hard, you just gotta actually look
Map 2 is for wet riding and black wheels look nice now to wheels get scratched then look crap
Very cool looking bike !
Tim Janssen thanks man!!!
Beautiful bike man
shenaniganz krew 22 thanks bro!!! What do u ride?
@@Dsklar41 all I have right now is a kx65 that I made into a pit bike. I looked at the new Honda 250s and the yz250s as well. I'm ready to buy just can't make my mind up if I want a race bike or a dual sport bike lol.
shenaniganz krew 22 maybe I can help what type of riding are u most likely to do ?
Actually dm me on insta if u have one
@@Dsklar41 sure man I'll send ya a dm and thanks!
how much is it monthly?
Well it will all depend on how much u put down but mine is $185
It’s called “valve cover” buddy No hate 🤘
Haha thanks bro👊🏼
Mine is way to stiff on front too I'm 60kg
They didn't come with chrome rims, bro, they were aluminium. Con 6, your video ;)
Good video. Make America great again 👍
Jim Wil thanks man I’m trying lol
Esteban Ocon, is that you?
Jason Bonnici hahah I’m dying!! I would be richer
My battery on my ktm 250sxf holds its charge no problem.
I just keep it on a tender to be safe it doesn’t hurt
Also ktm has the same size battery and no kickstart
is this for real?
Bro! Why there’s no headlight? Nice bike but no headlight, shitttt
Thanks bro! But it’s a race bike, usually only trail bikes or dual sports have lights
The exhaust does not sound good especially the honda 250 sound more like an xr
No kick start wtf???
Yup! Welcome to the future
well uhh you could jump start it if the battery dies
Mitchell Field true, but if the battery is dead dead then u can’t
Yea you cant bump start if its dead because it powers the EFi
Max Williams is there someway to hook up the efi to the stator
@@mitchellfield7239 No I don't think so but I do know that lithium battery's cant be recovered when they die all the way (there is a video by vegas romaniac where he starts his yz250fx without a battery but it runs awful)
Max Williams seen it, but at least on his yz there’s a spot to put the kick start in lol
Hi.
I disagree on nearly all cons- Except Dual pipe, yes it is more expensive.
Battery- you can get China one for 30$
Springs- first time I can hear that?? Some salesman just sold you idea to change them.😉
Good luck.✊💨
Pros of my 09 crf450r
Pro I can jump anything in 3rd
Cons hard ass clutch pull and the bitch almost killed me flaming out on some big table tops
I have a 11 450, it blew up lol
Not a big fan of that exhaust .
battery 500 dollars WHAAAAAT?
Yeah after this vid I found out that’s not true that’s what the dealer told me when I bought it
if you can buy a 10,000 450 you can buy a 1,500 exhaust
Silas Malone it’s just something to keep in mind about this bike
Thats more than 10% of the cost. It doesnt make sense to spend that much on one part. Fyi 2 stroke complete systems cost ab 500 so I disagree with ur logic
Cale Phillips dual exhausts cost around $1500
Stanley Sykes ur right
The suspension is NEVER perfect for any rider straight from the crate, not sure what you weigh, but you look like 250f weight, so the springs will feel a bit stiff. I have to say, your nitpicking is hilarious. These bikes come with phenomenal suspension, as close to A-Kit stuff as you can get without smashing your little sisters piggy bank to pay for it.
Honda has the best quality period, the exhaust is what it is, you can wrap the header pipe to keep the heat down. The battery can be replaced with a regular battery when and if it needs it. A trickle charger solves that issue. The clutch cover coating is going to rub off, if it didn’t,you weren’t holding on with your feet and legs like you should.
Rip that thing and appreciate it for what it is, a bad ass bike.
I am one of those “older gentleman” you speak of and appreciate the electric start, but have to agree, it is missing the kicker as a backup. They had to save weight somewhere.....
Ride it like you stole it. C442 #FAHQforLIFE
Yeah I got it all taken care of, this vid is old now but I hear what you are saying
I wondered why they deleted the kick start , now I know ... 500.00 for a small battery and saving on a kick start ! what a rip off.
Once the guys get stranded or buy a few batteries they stop buying bikes , so there you go Honda, KTM .... you just kicked yourself in the ass , good for you!
Lol! However I have been informed that it doesn’t actually cost $500.00 the dealer lied to me u can actually find them for about $100-$150ish sorry for the confusion but yeah I agree it should have a fail safe (Kickstarter)
@@Dsklar41 ... best to install a kick start if possible .
I think that would a lot of work.. you’d have to change the whole engine case and add the gears for it too but sure it’s possible
I can handle a 44 magnum just fine.
But I'm better with a 9mm.
I can handle a 450 but I'm better on a 150 xcw.
54 years old till I admitted it. Nice bike though!👍
Thanks man!
$500 for a battery?! B.S.!! At most $120 without sale. If you’re paying $500 for a battery you deserve it...
If the battery died I would just pop start it...
Loved the used haha
TwistedThrottle Me too especially this song!!!
500 Dollers? dafuq?
i´ve bought one for 30 dollers. and its perfect
2 muffler makes 0 sense on a 1 cylinder motor
Michael Kastner I know but it looks cool lol
Michael Kastner I know but it looks cool lol
on a 450 with a shit load of compression it does
@@coryellis12 oh please....
Also balances out the weight aswell
you look a little thin to be ridin a 450
Bob Lee Swagger first I love your movie 😂 and second Ive put my time on a 250 it’s not about being big and bulky it’s about being strong and having good endurance. I ride a 450 cause I can handle it no problem