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EVERYTHINGS BROKEN!! Can we get this 100+ year OLD Engine RUNNING again?? ANTIQUE ENGINE REVIVAL!!
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- what a gorgeous engine when its done! this is a 1910s 2 1/2hp lauson built for DeLaval. a lot of parts where broken and I managed to break several others. hope you guys enjoy!
As soon as he started hitting that valve with that hammer I knew it was gonna break!!
tap-tap-tap-tap-tap CRACK Gasp!
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and already had a new one and it worked great. but its always funky to see a cast iron valve head just plain crumbly before you!
It took a hell of a beating, 😅 I'll have to send this video to Mortske Repair 😀
The fastest valve grind i have ever seen.
@@martinhambleton5076 fastest in the west
You certainly got it going but obviously have a lot to learn on using the correct types of tools to correctly approach the job in hand. Something of this age requires an amount of respect.
@@SiaVids I agree and disagree at the same time I work on them damn near daily there is some respect to be had but a crescent wrench is plenty of respectful if you're careful with it. And this is a relatively common engine in the general spectrum of things so the only rare thing about it that is worth being really careful with is the paint job as there isn't a lot of nice originals like this left out there
Most folks don't know the correct way to use an adjustable wrench. I see them pulling against the moveable jaw all the time and that's what makes things go badly. Always pull against the fixed jaw.
Sorry, I had to stop watching when the adjustables came out.................................
@@thepotterer3726 why do people hate a crescent wrench so much. If your rounding bolts off with one your using it wrong. They have easily enough grip to break the bolt before rounding it off so I still don't get why people hate them so much. They are a very useful tool that only novices say don't work especially in the old engine world.
@@cruddycornstalks personally it's because it's big as fuck, it's easy to round bolt because they tend to have a lot of play and in general, they look like something that does the job badly
i personally woun't use it, but i mean, it's not me working on that, and it clearly worked good enought to do the job.
i think hammering straight into the valve might be worse than any wrench. again no hate, of course, i just want to discussion, but hammering into a stuck valve seems a good way to fuck stuff up
@@cruddycornstalks You should use 100 year old Peck, Stow & Wilcox monkey wrenches on your 100 year old engines 😄
I know nothing about these old "hit/miss" engines but my Dad would have loved watching your video. Very interesting. Well done.
Somebody please take that hammer away and get him a set of wrenches, good grief!
nothing wrong with any of the tools I'm using or my methods. they where calculated. maybe not perfectly but it was calculated.
I was waiting on you to pull a Mortske and snap off the top of that valve …. And you did! Lol
the decision was calculated, but god I'm bad at math.
I quite like that you left the original paint on. It gives it a bit more character.
thanks! original paint is by far more expensive and harder to get then any repaint you can ever do to an engine. the decades of wear and age make a patina and color you cannot make from any spray can or brush! people that say otherwise don't respect a machines history or age. now if its been repainted its free game!
So many experts popping up again.
everytime
You don't need to be an expert to understand that you shouldn't hit valves with a hammer.
@@Q2kerS you haven't worked on many stuck valves then.
@@cruddycornstalks worked on even worst, but in little bit different way
Wow. I typically don’t watch videos this long in length but this one was well worth it
You're starting from afar, but the result is superb, even with these little accidents, well done.
@@philippephilou8116 thank you
Lord have mercy... guy uses an adjustable wrench and you guys lose your minds.... who cares what tools he uses???
Imagine if he knows the right tools for the job.....
@@nikolaivanov8208 since he uses the adjustable wrench he doesn't have to have like 50 different wrenches
@@nikolaivanov8208 And he has wrenches he just uses the adjustable wrench to save time going back and forth to the tool box and have to dig for the right size
Thought this was a spoof video at first, but no, it seems to be real. Thank you for putting the comedy back into mechanical restorations.
that's the same question I ask myself everyday!
Nice to see beautiful, well made and reliable machinery being bought back to life. Subscribed.
Rest in pieces, housing.
Great job! Always enjoy watching your videos. So nice to see old machinery revived.
@@igorchesalin3501 glad to hear it. Always try my best to entertain!
Hast Du kein Ordentliches Werkzeug?
Probably one of the best 'oily rag' restorations I've come across.
Great work.
@@MillwalltheCat glad you like it
good job
Bring back a lot of memories for me. When I was a teenager my friends Dad owned an antique shop and had a lot of old engines similar to this one and we started bringing them back and cleaning them up and getting to run again. This included some very old Tractors too!
Amazing ressurection!! i love those ancient hit n miss engines:)
I get the goose bumps every time I see someone using an adjustable wrench
What a great little engine. Well done!
@@JasonSmith-vd1sz thank you!
Wow great job getting the engine running...
Yep. Not only was he a goon with a Crescent Wrench but he held it backwards on the Nuts. Then used it for a hammer. Oh boy. Sure ran good. I don’t know how
@@squarefour1 and what did it do? Nothing worked perfectly fine. No rounded heads no problems with the wrench what so ever but people still complain like it is causing problems. And it ran because I did the work it needed to run.
Bro, use more lube earlier, and not WD40! Pb blaster! I’ll send you a can.
Fantastic job tho!
been tested by many people both perform very similar. and wd40 was on sale. and I always get like halfway through something and remember that penetrant exists and is helpful!
@@cruddycornstalks I’m an industrial mechanic for 20ish years, and I have the option to use WD 40 or PB, and it’ll be PB every time, and I even hate the smell of PB. It really works better.
WD is excellent for cleaning and light metal moisturizing.
This is not restoration 😅
This is tortureration 😂
@@SharkRoadssure don't seem like you have delt with very many hit and miss engines. Do some learning before you make assumptions. And it isn't a restoration never said it was. 90% of people call repainting and engine a restoration. And I find the word over used and useless.
Well done, nice work, want to see it running with load...
It’s a great little engine, made to last. After some TLC and a clean it seems to be as good as new.
What an expert 🙈
@@bernhardhofstatter3129 never claimed to be an expert but definitely delt with more of them then almost everyone commenting.
You are a far better mechanic than I am.
However, I'm disappointed that 1) you did not use sockets or at least open end wrenches to remove the nuts, 2) you didn't take the valve assembly to your anvil, and use something a bit less drastic to hit on the valve so it did not shatter, 3) once you had everything apart, you took each assembly to first a cleaning station to remove the old gunk, then to a sandblasting to make everything look at least clean.
Yes, you were able to make the engine work again, and if that was your only goal, you accomplished that.
I suppose I'm used to restoration folks totally cleaning, stripping, re lubing, and repainting everything so it looked nearly new. I suppose I was expecting more.
thank you. for once a polite and honest critique. but! 1) a crescent does no harm to any nut or bolt when used correctly and it didn't, as well as it fits some old bolts better then any socket will since they have rusted smaller over time and aren't standard anymore, 2) had no major care for saving the valve since I had replacements ready and it was bashed in hard from many people before me trying, 3) I cleaned the grease off generally and plan to clean it farther by hand, but I would never sand blast this engine or its parts as the paint and its patina is part of its history and far harder to obtain then any type of paint you can spray at it. it took that paint over a hundred year to get that way and people want to spend a few hours taking it off and putting something anyone can buy at a store on it, no thank you.
I did a bunch of little mechanical reworking to remove slop and make the engine run as best as it can and succeeded . when it comes to antique farm machinery it is far more desirable to preserve the nice original paint, then "restore it" . if you have the paint to preserve.
thank you for your comment and your thoughts!
Yeah, maybe he doesn't have the best collection of tools, but he got it running.
If you don’t know how to do something right, please ask someone, before destroy it more 🤬
@@danielgriffith7694 you can do that next time you work on one. Worked on hundreds of them. And handled some of the rarest out there so im good.
Great Video. I love seeing these old engines come back alive. I'm working on a John Deere now. Cracked magneto.
@@ShawnColorado thanks! At least John deere mags are around. I was worried I wouldn't find another splitdorf but a friend found me one and I was saved. I didn't mention it in the video but the windings in mine where also bad so the parts one came it twice as handy.
Well done! 🤣 Subscribed
Looks like you could do all that while your eyes were closed. Great job young man!
@@GICK117 thank you! Ive got a pretty good idea I'd say.
Absolutely Beautiful Engine! I agree about the paint too, fantastic refurbishment as always.
@@enginecrzy thank you! someday when I have more time down the line I'd love to get it completely spotless in the crankcase too but I had time restraints so I skipped that part.
What kind of heathen hammers a valve out? Adjustable wrench for everything?
I guess I could have used mind powers instead. and yes adjustable hammer for everything
Yeah. The adjustable wrench screams lazy or poor. Or both.
@@MARRANCA2 if you think a crescent wrench is a bad tool you either Don't know how to use one or have never used one properly to begin with. There's no harm in in using a crescent wrench. If using it correctly you can snap the bolt off before it would ever round the head.
BITCH PLEASE...I've been a Field Technician probably longer than you've been alive.
But please...tell me about myself while you're using crap tools.
Hahahaha. You're a joke.
a field technician isn't a hit and miss engine mechanic. between me and my father we have about 60 years in antique farm machinery repair, and we aren't going to tell you how to be a field technician , because there are almost completely unalike. if you haven't worked on antique engines maybe you shouldn't talk about how someone works on them.
Wow, that is amazing how you restored that old diesel engine to working order. It looks better and it works like a charm as well. Great work.
Diesel? Did you even watch the video?
@@erikziak1249 what i was thinking. that thing has a fucking carb lol
It's like everyone with a craftsman starter kit suddenly thinks they can make a restoration video
if that's what you want to think, good for you. glad they include valve seat cutters , industrial welders, a lathe, a mill, valve grinder, magneto magnet charger, and all the other tools I used to make this engine run and to make this video. it wasn't a restoration I don't know where your getting that from. amazing how naïve some people can be about something they don't know much about. had a couple goals in the video get the engine running and get it running well as well as taking any slop out of all loose components and both where achieved and nothing was ruined or hurt that wasn't already bad or broken . "restoring" as a lot of UA-cam binge watchers say, would be a waste of what this engine is as a piece of history. I only want to preserve the patina the engine has while making it mechanically sound and tuning it till it runs as best it can. anyone complaining about my methods or what tools I used is either not experiences in antique engines or just a keyboard warrior looking for a argument to act like they know better. no nuts where rounded, no bolts striped, no good parts ruined, all original paint and history saved, and the engine runs better now than in the past 80+ years of its life. so maybe rethink your judgement.
@@cruddycornstalks i think you did a pretty good job. At first i was thinking you'd need to strip the remaining paint and sandblast. Glad you didn't.
This old stuff was built to last. Great job repairing it. I knew a guy i used to work with years ago. He used to rebuild old engines like this and bigger. He had a big collection. Used to take them all over to fairs and shows. Pretty cool stuff. Keep up the good work. Subbed.
Great video,,,no talk that takes of the intress to se it...thanks!
thanks! i try to make the video as interesting as possible!
Could have told you the valve would shatter. That's NOT how you do it. But otherwise, I enjoyed it.
Great pacing for the video! No one likes a bunch of talking and real-time unscrewing of bolts.
gotta make taking out a bolt feel like pulling a pin otherwise, it makes the video way to slow and long!
Speak for yourself!
Watching you beat on that exhaust valve I was thinking to myself how is he not breaking that. I just hadn't given it enough time yet...
I agree with some people, the last thing to use is adjustable wrench. But most of the people who watch this don't know how to restore an engine or the process of it.
@@christopherrobinkivisild5309 they sure seem like it's the worst thing to ever touch this engine like some of the nuts haven't been taken off with a chisel and hammer before.
Don't think he does either
I love old machines
I see from the comments you got a lot of flack, but you get my respect. I wouldn't know what it is or what to do with it.
Good job!
Nunca me paso de ver una restauración tan mediocre, con golpes innecesarios al punto de romper una válvula, y nada prolijo al trabajar, una vergüenza como reparador
awsome work sir.paint it pretty.
I was just thinking when you was thrashing that valve, how come whenever I hit anything it breaks.
the cast iron headed valves are always touchy. but I knew I had a way to replace it so I wasn't worried.
@@cruddycornstalks monkey sees monkey does, this is the trouble. There is alot of young people who learn off UA-cam before they attempt. They copy these bad practices.
When those were made those three tools were all the farmers had other than a big rock and first generation wrench🗜️
and here I'm destroying it using tools better then it ever had new!
@@cruddycornstalks my grandfather had one a third smaller it had a brass handle that when started folded into the flywheel . He had a washing machine water pump (think late 40s-early 50s) and a pair of pullies and old fan belt and he used it as an irrigation system for his trees , he showed me how to start it and it just popped along.
You redeemed yourself for me when you remagnetized magneto . Hammering te valve head was not a great start. You were lucky with the cast iron weld too .
If it works it’ll be a miracle. Lots of rusty components I apologize, it’s a miracle. It speaks volumes about the quality of the products built by master engineers ❤❤❤❤❤❤
its is always amazing to see how well they hold up over the years!
Those “pot metal” parts are quite toxic… it’s usually a mixture of zinc, lead and aluminium. The ratio of metals can vary, that’s why some batches last and others rot away.
Yep never heat them very hot with a torch or you could get zinc poisoning
Das mucha "envidia buena" como decimos en el idioma español. Es muy divertido y gratificante poner a funcionar cosas antiguas; en mi casa tenemos un Renault 4 de 1977 que estuvo abandonado casi 15 años y ahora lo tenemos andando. Puede que técnicamente se puedan hacer las cosas mejor pero el trabajo que has hecho es muy bonito.
I used to threaten my engineers with the sack if they used an adjustable spanner as their main tool. They can have their uses, but round off the corners of nuts at a high rate.
@@elaref7225 if your crescent wrench is rounding your nuts off you are using it wrong it will break the bolt it's on before rounding the head if you use them correctly
@@cruddycornstalks using them correctly is the problem
My old boss was a patternmaker. When he started he company he supplied the machine setters, a toolkit of mallet, 10" adjustable & a tape measure.
Most of the machine bolts were 6mm with heads for a 10mm spanner.. So, yes, they twisted the heads off on the odd occasion they adjusted it correctly!
@@elaref7225 yep. There should not be flak on the crescent wrench but the lack of using it correctly because I have never rounded a botl off with one ever unless someone gave me a cheap china wrench that would not stay tight
I'd recommend having that green paint checked for arsenic content, just in case …
@@RattiDave licked it. Seemed ok
new sub here, great rebuild, keep rebuilding and i will be back for sure, thanks for the content. Just a tiny bit of advise, flood the hell out of your camera shots with lighting for fine detail. Thanks again for the rebuild!
I guess Delaval was the same company as Alfa laval ,which is familiar to me as makers of milk separators for dairy farmers. A huge company once. The little motor was typical on small farms for running the milking plant and separator.
@@Mercmad it wasn't alpha laval it was alpha Delaval the whole time. The. It be same just DeLeval
IF YOUR GOING TO TAKE THE TIME TO TEAR IT DOWN' A SMART PERSON WILL CLEAN ALL PARTS AND SAND BLAST THE WHOLE THING. THEN PROCEED TO DO A FILING FOR BLEMISHES. AND SURFACE SAND ALL THE SHAFTS.. AND YES I CRINGED WHEN THE HAMMER CAME OUT...
@@richardkitchen2469 what sick person would sand blast something like this? Destroying all of the age and history it has and the original paint that's made it 110 plus years in the world. That sounds like someone that's never worked on preserving history very much. Let's save it by removing half of what makes it old and painting it with cheap paint that any one can put on anything, seems like a flawless plan. If you ever find an engine in this condition find someone else to save it because it sounds like you'd like to destroy half it's history.
Would you do that to an old shotgun or rifle as well? Asking for a friend.
@@milwaukeeroadjim9253 yeah you can't have any of that old bluing on there you need to fully redo that
It's worth bearing in mind that:
a) he's entitled to do it any old way he pleases.
b) purists are tiresome.
c) you are anally retentive.
Now, perhaps you can direct us to your restoration channel, I'm sure it's something to behold.
How is it that you manage to spend so much time working on these oldies ?
no other social life or care for a sleep schedule
мотор Андижанец , до сих пор работает на водоотливных помпах в казахстане и ухбекистане и киргизии..
Never seen anyone belt a valve like that
a few before me had wacked on it for a good minute the stem was crushed to almost twice its thickness. so I had a replacement in line and had no reason to worry about breaking it, though it wasn't really expected. but hoh boy do people seem mad that I broke a valve that I had a replacement for ! and they seem to act like they know how to fix the world!
I want to build a similar enging from molten metal. Make lost foam castings , possibly some lodt pla using 3D prints. Then build a engine, to be used to generate power to charge batteries for a off grid home. NOT a replica.. more of a look at one of these, and say "Hey! I can build one of these!" Type of thing.. i have work on engines since I was a kid. But i want to actually cast and weld Making the parts for a engine. I would really like to build a few for different fuels. Build a steam engine to burn used engine oil in the boiler, id like to make it from stainless steel about the size of two 55 gallon drums on the outside. The inside, the actual boiler bring roughly the size of 1.5-1.7 , 40 gallon drums. Uses 1/2" plate, (two of them) drill (and ream) about 60 holes for the 1.25" stainless 18 gauge tubes. Placed in the steel end caps then wrapped eith a 1/4" sheet or possibly. 2-3 1/8" sheets. Eith the steam fully welded, (full penetration welds) then grind and Polish the area. And nickel plate ( heavily on the inside) weld in a ring about 1/2 x 1/2" with a groove for a copper o-ring, the ring inside the outer hoop of plate steel. Tig welded to kerp it in place and sealed. The o-ring seals the end plates. Them having oval holes to sccess the tubes. the fire box only about 12"-24" made from two layers of plate. A 1/4" plate with a 2" spacer, from 1/4" plate. Then another plate of 1/16" or 1/8" with several 2" pipes eith plugs, to allow the inner of the sides to be filled with fine sand, the inner most plated in nickel, with a 20 gauge stainless sheet metal deflector polished to reflect heat. With a 18 gauge sheet on top with holes matching the tubes or depend on the nickel plating. For protection. With a series of rings of tubes 1.5"-2" eith multiple 3/4" tubes coming from it. About 4"-6" long with a leaf blower connected to the big tube. it habing a Small piece of tubing inside with used oil under about 5-10 psi the tubing 3/8" with 3/16 pieces running up the 3/4-1" tubes with about 6-8 tiny holes neat the end of the 3/16" tube with bit plugged. The only outlet being the tiny holes them spraying into a 3/8-1/2" tube about 2" long. Making a nozzle anout 12 of them . With a tiny vhrst plug for each. With insulation protecting the wire, probably switch to nichrome wire, using the tubing as the conductor of current. With 12,v, 30 amps or so have a hot wire over the nozzle with the blower on low, slowly turn on the fuel, maybe use propane to start it. But the red hot wire should start thr oil. Slowly turn up the fuel to grt a fire, then the blower until it doesn't smoke. It should have 60-80 psi in no time. With the glame on a steel plate on a fire btick, for each nozzle, it should heat the fire box to near 1000°f with the tubes bring ,600°f (the air moving through them!) with the water ABOUT 300°-380° maybe run a steam pipe through the box to super heat the steam through a triple pass 2" pipe. Then to the stem engine. Hopefully enough to generate 3kw atleast, 750watts bring roughly 1hp, so 1.25×3=3.75 HP. With losses it vould require up to 7.5-8hp to produce 2800-3kw. Depending on losses and efficiency. A efficient generator could require as little as 4-4.5 hp i would like to produce up to 20 kw eventually, require up to 40 HP.
That bring up the other engines, a gas or propane, wood gas engine. Having two cylinders with 8" bores and a12" stroke being a opposed cylinder engine , the balance should be great. Spin up to 1200 rpm max. But normally be 400-600 RPM. With the pistons both up at the same time , but giring one sfter the other. It should run near silent with the long stroke. Thr combustion should be over when the valve opens. Just a whoosh sound with the intake vslve opening just as the woosh is almost over. To help fill the cylinder with air fuel. Making more power. With roughly 9:1-10:1 compression, 2-3 times or more compression than the old engines had! Should produce more power. By about the same multiplier. A tiny 3.5 hp engine with a better cam, more compression, better fuel. 3.5 hp should get to 6-7 easily, the TQ should be greater atleast. And better balance should allow higher RPM is equivalent to much more power!!.... Sorry to ramble! Have a awesome day!
Oh look, an engine that you can actually repair without patented tools and a computer that can only be reset by the manufacturer and is obsolete as soon as the manufacturer goes bankrupt
Well here in India most tractors are still fully mechanical . So sad that they will be like what you said in short amount of time 😢. And greeting me unemployed
Never hamner a valve like that. 😮
Right!
I will be sure to use the Schwartz next time
Subbed, Quick, no bullshit rebuild, so many people nowadays are scared of elbow grease, and treat things like they are made of wet toilet paper. good job
thanks for the sub! a lot of people act like its a delicate machine but in reality its a 300lb cast iron brick with some bit on the outside
He needs a stock tank full of EvapoRust to dunk that thing in...
Magnífico trabalho, parabéns, sem música de fundo chata ,muito bom mesmo
thank you!
Abroad, it is mechanical respiration. good.
The guy is a hack, broke a valve and that housing for the igniter. Watching him break things is too painful.
@@Michael-ul8bv good to know the person calling me a hack doesn't even know what I broke and what was already broken. Or the fact both had replacement parts waiting. Maybe go learn about something before you try to act like you know better.
Loved the vid bud!
thanks!
A friend of mine has a few "hit and miss" antique engines.
would this engine have some sort of intake air filter in service? can't see it lasting long without one, but am not knowledgeable so asking.
@@Mariano.Bernacki basically no hit and miss engine had an air filter. They just sucked crud in and spar crud out. That's why you can find a lot of them completely worn out from inhaling corn dust and the like for decades.
He makes it look so easy. Never like that in real life.
thanks! alot of labor went into the filming and the editing to make the video nice and short. and everyone that doesn't understand that is saying i missed steps and did it wrong
That's a cool old engine, got an IH LA engine myself, but I cringe when you break out the crescent wrench and hammer, if you would take the time to use the proper tools and leave the hammer in the toolbox you would save yourself a lot of headaches
I don't know what people expect you to get the valve out with other then a hammer. A press would have a good chance of breaking a cast iron head valve and or bending it as well. And only people that don't know how to use an adjustable wrench don't like an adjustable wrench.
Me hubiera gustado verlo desmontado completo, aún así buen video
Cool to have this machine powering an alternator or something slightly more period to produce power to charge an Edison battery...
BFH takin’ care of business.
oh you know it!
Nunca vi martillar una valvula con tal brutalidad , ....como para llevarle el carro jajaja
Tu as ton avenir dans tes mains n écoutes pas les grincheux tu fais de l excellent travail de la France
I think the Amish would accept this thing any more.
is this an 8 stroke engine !?
What did you use to clean the engine at the end there? Looks to have worked very well!
it was a 50 50 of gasoline and kerosene. worked best with the grease the engine had without making the green come off.
Nice
thanks
good job just needs a muffler
Very nice job 👍👍🇺🇲
@@jimbritt2874 thank you
I have restored many engines in worse condition than this one using time and patience. I have never seen an engine as brutally treated as things one, shame on you.
Are the bolts/nut non standard size so that an adjustable wrench has to be used?
@@AM-pl2pt someone finally gets it a bit. On these old engines alot of the bolts /nuts are called "large pattern" so in theory they should be one size larger then standard heads. But between a 100 years of rust and or abuse most are somewhere in between and it's safer and more reliable to use an adjustable wrench that will always go tight against what ever you put it on.
WD применяют до разборки, а не во время. Можно было избежать многих сломанных вами запчастей
You've got to lap them more than that
Did you put a lead substitute in the gas?
There is no need there's nothing in this engine sensitive enough to care nor in most engines from that time. The lead in fuel wasn't as much for a lubricant or dampener then it was an octane booster as there wasn't ever metal lead in gas only tetra ethyl lead and that has no major help over modern octane boosters and oils.
Меня бесит, когда разводными ключами работают!! Что нормальных нет????? 😡
Это математику нужно знать, ключи хитрые 7/8, 4/16 и т.д.
Понятно.. Зарубежные механики слабы в технике... Сказывается западное образование😢
Thank you for making such an incredible video my friend. You gained another subscriber. Give me strength too. Thank you my friend.
Thanks for the sub!
Дааа, реставратор от бога- гаечных ключей нет, клапана молотком шевелит.
I thought you was going to that engine restoration
Why it is not firing all the time, just occasionally?
Super Like!!! amazing job!!!