1930s Gearbox Bike - Restoration

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  • Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
  • We found this super rare German 2-Speed WW2 bicycle in the basement of an old Bavarian country house and now we're bringing it back to the road again.
    The most exciting part is for sure the gearbox, which is pretty rare so see and very exciting to restore.
    You also need to replace damaged parts with a 3D-printer?
    Then have a look at our partner Bambulab bambulab.com
    Short Q&A:
    - No repaint, we like the patina as it is. It also fits better into our workshop.
    - Restoration is in our mind a direct action on the object with the aim of making it work again, but to keep the character of the object. In doing so, its aesthetic, historical and physical characteristics are respected as much as possible.
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Part 0: The Condition
    00:50 Part 1: Disassembly
    06:54 Part 2: Cleaning
    09:31 Part 3: Preserving Patina
    11:38 Part 4: Missing Parts
    13:42 Part 5: Assembly
    32:56 Test Ride
    #restoration #bike #rust #bicycle
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  • @forgottenthings
    @forgottenthings  14 днів тому +86

    If you liked the video, we would be very happy about a subscription! :)
    Sub: www.youtube.com/@forgottenthings?sub_confirmation=1

    • @denisaleksandrovich3664
      @denisaleksandrovich3664 10 днів тому +2

      HELLO!
      MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WILL YOU GIVE SUCH A RARITY TO A MUSEUM?
      GREETINGS FROM RUSSIA!

    • @email4664
      @email4664 10 днів тому +3

      It would have been nice to see some more actual full shots of this bike

    • @jonascorreia2631
      @jonascorreia2631 10 днів тому +1

      😅😅😅

    • @ZUBRR
      @ZUBRR 9 днів тому +1

      Honda Aist better. Or Honda Casper. You can see them in RUSSIA !

    • @user-rg5zr6hz6r
      @user-rg5zr6hz6r 9 днів тому +5

      Старые велосипеды 50х 60 х 70 х 80 х были качествеными и простыми почти вечные у меня есть велосипед Урал 1980 г выпуска купил мне отец на день рождения на 14 лет . С того дня прошло 44 года а он до сих пор на ходу теперь уже внуки учатся на нем ездить .

  • @laszlofarkas9997
    @laszlofarkas9997 11 днів тому +619

    I am a retired mathematics teacher from Hungary. As a young teacher I lived in a region (Békés county) where there were as many bicycles as in the Netherlands. As I earned little money, I started repairing bicycles. I got my hands on a few pre-war bikes, most of them Sachs, and one Hercules. I have no idea how that Hercules got to Hungary. Even then I was amazed at how durable these old bikes were made of. Like here on the Wanderer, almost all the internal components just had to be cleaned out and could go back in place. The bearing bushings were still in good condition after 50-60 years, at most the bearings had to be replaced. But in the Torpedo, they didn't have to be replaced either. This Wanderer is beautiful. I enjoyed every minute of the restoration with great nostalgia. Congratulations! Beautiful job!

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  10 днів тому +34

      Thank you very much!

    • @bobbytheboy1
      @bobbytheboy1 10 днів тому +15

      I can tell you how that bicycle could end up in Hungary,because of collaboration with Third Reich as an ally ,don't you think that's possible.

    • @ZePaulo1971
      @ZePaulo1971 10 днів тому +5

      Nice history!!!

    • @davidburgess741
      @davidburgess741 9 днів тому +3

      And I thought I got creative restoring my '79 Dave Moulton!

    • @ariz0na332
      @ariz0na332 9 днів тому +13

      ​​@@bobbytheboy1конечно именно так. Как и Венгерская печка для солдат третьего рейха, которая у меня на полке стоит. Котра "случайно" под Ленинградом нашлась. Как и вторая Венгерская армия в 200.000 которая почти вся осталось под Сталинградом и переводчески находим останки.

  • @titantitan3030
    @titantitan3030 10 днів тому +296

    In my native country, Cuba, there were and are not spare parts for anything and we had to come up with them. I was a turner and miller. I started making parts for bicycles, cars and motorcycles. I made any part or adapted it and I loved it. I emigrated. I went to the US 45 years ago and when I see almost new bicycles thrown in the trash, it makes me nostalgic and I always say, how much I would have given to have found something similar when I was a kid, today I am retired from everything, only the memories remain. I congratulate you for your talent and love dedicated to restoring something appreciated

    • @laserbeam1620
      @laserbeam1620 10 днів тому +10

      Great story!

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  10 днів тому +8

      Thank you!😊

    • @pcka12
      @pcka12 10 днів тому +16

      Some modern bikes are 'trash' from new!

    • @kapilsds7
      @kapilsds7 10 днів тому +8

      @@pcka12 That's the true story.

    • @peterparsons7141
      @peterparsons7141 10 днів тому +12

      I am just retired, i was a kid in the 60’s and 70’s (Canada). There was a group of us kids 11-14 years old who would go scrapping on garbage days(people put out trash for pickup).
      We had could often pickup many old bikes in the spring time, people buy new bikes and throw old ones out. We could easily put together one good bike from parts. Often these bikes would get sold 5$, and it was an ongoing thing .
      The bikes were nothing near the quality of these older European bikes. The bikes from the ’60’s and 70’s were the start of disposable bikes era. I have seen the complete circle of quality, and many new bikes from the 90’s onward are again made of good quality materials, and were expensive and worth repairing.

  • @octaviussludberry9016
    @octaviussludberry9016 8 днів тому +16

    As a museum curator, I would say you're conserving as opposed to restoring. This is what museums and galleries do - maintain what's there and if parts need replacing, they're made obvious that they're new parts. Either way, I'm a cyclist and this is totally boss.

  • @martinharris5017
    @martinharris5017 10 днів тому +76

    WOW! I've seen shaft-drive vintage bikes before but never a gearbox bike. Thanks for restoring this this marvel of German engineering.

    • @user-sb1uh9go9w
      @user-sb1uh9go9w 7 днів тому

      Добрый день, подскажи пожалуйста как этот привод работает я искал информацию и не мог найти для чего там переключение , что оно даёт, какой принцип работы?

    • @up.grayedd
      @up.grayedd 2 дні тому

      the shifter lever is so sick

  • @RussianIvan
    @RussianIvan 10 днів тому +78

    Почему сейчас не делают велосипеды с таким редуктором? Каждый раз убеждаюсь что раньше технологии и качество были лучше чем сейчас! Сейчас даже в самых дорогих велосипедах нет такого качества и эстетики деталей. За реставрацию и хорошую сьемку большое спасибо посмотрел с огромным удовольствием !

    • @user-tu3yq8iz1s
      @user-tu3yq8iz1s 10 днів тому +12

      Россия...
      Про какие велосипеды и их изготовление в росии можно говорить,, когда в России разрушены трактный заводы, автомобильные заводы Зил, комбайновый заводы, мотоциклетный завод ИЖ, и наконец АВИАЦИОНЫЙ ЗАВОД.... 😲

    • @RussianIvan
      @RussianIvan 10 днів тому

      @@user-tu3yq8iz1s я не про Россию я вообще про весь мир сейчас даже топовые когда то бренды делают фигню, про Россию и говорить нечего даже иголки и те не делают ...

    • @andrei-st4qj
      @andrei-st4qj 10 днів тому

      ​@@user-tu3yq8iz1sА кто об этом позаботился ? Ни запад ли , когда Горбачёв перестройку надумал , а алкаш Ельцин остатки пропил , запад всегда врагом был , посмотрите историю , они к нам с мечём шли, а не мы!!!!

    • @agnomenincognita3896
      @agnomenincognita3896 10 днів тому +1

      Если вы имеете ввиду компоновку, то похожее называется pinion ua-cam.com/video/IoWpFLfAZq4/v-deo.html

    • @PONCHIK2079
      @PONCHIK2079 10 днів тому

      ​@@user-tu3yq8iz1s это старая методичка😂😂😂

  • @francescoparretti7793
    @francescoparretti7793 12 днів тому +209

    I’m absolutely speechless. This is not a restoration, but in my honest opinion,an heritage conservation. Amazing job. Highly professional.

    • @spankyjeffro5320
      @spankyjeffro5320 11 днів тому +3

      This is by definition a restoration. Don't post cringey comments.

    • @francescoparretti7793
      @francescoparretti7793 11 днів тому +19

      @@spankyjeffro5320 heritage conservation: definition
      Unfortunately, there is no single definition, because the schools of thought in restoration are diverse and especially theidea of conservative restoration varies greatly in different restoration fields.
      In general, however, we can say that conservation restoration is a restoration intervention thataims to consolidate the art object in order to restore its legibility and slow down its degradation. The basic idea of heritage conservation is to restore the existing, without reconstructing what has been lost.
      For example: An affresco where part of the plaster has come off and 30% of the work has been lost (permanently).
      If we were to do a conservative restoration to the affresco, the restorer will be responsible for securing the 70% of the fresco that is left, taking care that there are no new detachments and restoring the colors of the time by trying to use the same materials. However, the restorer will not go and "redesign" the 30 percent of the affresco that was destroyed. As we said in heritage conservation one must deal with the existing, what remains.
      I personally think that you are a person without arguments who is just looking for visibility, but that is essentially your problem.

    • @ArmoredsoldierCZ
      @ArmoredsoldierCZ 11 днів тому +7

      @@spankyjeffro5320 This dude woke up to be toxic for no reason. They said their OPINION (which you may never heard of before) and they still praised their work. So yea, dont post toxic comments. Thank you for your cooperation.

    • @Dead_Ringer
      @Dead_Ringer 10 днів тому +2

      I was going to comment similarly, you express it better though. I was itching to get out the spraying gear and give it a lick of fresh paint :D

    • @donovangibson7765
      @donovangibson7765 10 днів тому +7

      @@spankyjeffro5320 You're joking... Right? There's no new paint, the parts weren't brought back to factory condition before reassembly... The only cringey comment here is yours.

  • @AustinWF1988
    @AustinWF1988 12 днів тому +65

    It's a little surprising to me seeing how many specialty tools are needed to do a job like this properly. Good work, I can see how satisfying it could be.

  • @user-bp2yq8yg8x
    @user-bp2yq8yg8x 9 днів тому +12

    Гениальный инженер прошлого и умелый реставратор современности сделали прекрасный вечер на You tube 😊

  • @user-el9ep2lp7j
    @user-el9ep2lp7j 9 днів тому +21

    Wow, my face was frozen watching your video, my jaw dropped to the floor. Amazing, precise engineering to preserve and give life to another piece of history. My respect.

  • @Maximovich79
    @Maximovich79 10 днів тому +37

    Честь и хвала автору за его знания и труды. Приятно видеть что есть люди, которые могут сохранить и реставрировать историю

    • @user-jo9xq3cl6e
      @user-jo9xq3cl6e 9 днів тому +2

      человек молодец

    • @XaLi_GaLi
      @XaLi_GaLi 9 днів тому +5

      Впервые вижу вел с такой кпп) Это что, двухскоростная? Типа, пониженная в горку, и прямая для ровных дорог?

    • @XaLi_GaLi
      @XaLi_GaLi 9 днів тому +3

      18:30 а вот это он зря) Необдуманный шаг! Если придётся снова разбирать, то понадобится ах рен еть какой мощный съёмник. Лучшее - враг хорошего! Там достаточно парочка ударов молотком и резбового прижима фиксирующими гайками. Рядовой велосипедист ремонтирует всегда "на коленке", в дороге, или просто во дворе. И точно также, при помощи молотка, но уже боковыми ударами, демонтирует шатуны. Автор тут явно переусердствовал с прессом🥴

    • @asarasswat593
      @asarasswat593 9 днів тому +4

      Оказывается когда я в детстве перебирал свой велик для смазки и чистки я его реставрировал... Я понять не могу как это можно назвать реставрацией, у меня бы рука не поднялась оставить раму и др. элементы в таком виде имея такую мастерскую.

    • @Maximovich79
      @Maximovich79 9 днів тому +1

      @@asarasswat593 не помню как называется, но в этом особый смысл, оставить все максимально аутентичным.

  • @hamongog
    @hamongog 10 днів тому +54

    A 1930's bike restored in a 1930's bike shop replete with a drawer full of bicycle components from the 1930's? You've got my attention and subscription!

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  10 днів тому +2

      Thank you!😊

    • @eternaloptimist2840
      @eternaloptimist2840 9 днів тому +6

      Yeah but did you see the KMC chain that came out of the Wippermann tin?

    • @BrainHurricanes
      @BrainHurricanes 8 днів тому +1

      @@eternaloptimist2840 Ssssst don't ruin it now.

    • @drider43
      @drider43 7 днів тому +1

      @@eternaloptimist2840 Kinda makes you wonder what else isn't what it appears.

  • @user-vc4rc7fh5r
    @user-vc4rc7fh5r 10 днів тому +11

    Прекрасная реставрация!
    Огромное благодарность за Вашу работу!
    С большим уважением!
    Здоровья и удачи!

  • @hechtfreundau4363
    @hechtfreundau4363 13 днів тому +40

    Endlich wieder eine schöne Fahrradrestauration, und dann auch noch ein Wanderer Getrieberad. Traumhafter Patina-Zustand und ein sehr schöner Strahlenkopf. Ich weiß was dazugehört, so ein Schmuckstück mit Sachverstand wieder auf die Straße zu bringen, bin aber trotzdem immer von eurer sauberen und präzisen Arbeit beeindruckt. Danke für die schönen Videos!😊

  • @geraldrohe8669
    @geraldrohe8669 13 днів тому +73

    Wunderbares Fahrrad. Relativ selten. Es wurden meines Erachtens lediglich 999 Stück mit diesem Zweigang-Getriebe produziert. Ich selbst habe für mich ein Adler 3-Gang-Getriebe Fahrrad von 1939 restauriert und habe meine Freude daran. Die Entwicklung des Getriebe dürfte aus dem Automobilbereich herrühren. Sehr schöne Restauration, auch dass die Patina erhalten bleibt. Die Geschichte soll ja sichtbar bleiben. Bitten weitere solche Restaurationen veröffentlichen. Sehr interessant zu sehen.

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  11 днів тому +7

      Danke für das Lob!

    • @isarwasser5271
      @isarwasser5271 10 днів тому

      ---Wunderbares Fahrrad--- Aber sowas von! Adler ist auch Top. Danke für diesen Kommentar.

    • @__-lb6sf
      @__-lb6sf 10 днів тому +4

      Nur den argen Höhenschlag an den Felgen hätte er auch noch ausbügeln können ( Min.23:05). Die ovalen Aluscheiben, die unter die Speichennippel verbaut wurden, gehören mit der längeren Seite in Fahrtrichtung, die sind vorgerundet somit dürften die nicht willkürlich verbaut werden. Ansonsten kann man nicht maulen. 😊

  • @slimboyde
    @slimboyde 10 днів тому +19

    Wanderer-2, what a great find. Thank you for sharing. Here the engeneer had no limits when constructing this gearbox in the optimal position. In the 1930ies bicycles were extremly expensive, about two month pay of a skilled worker. And this one was certainly much more expensive. So they could build them so durable.

  • @user-oi7xx6yf5b
    @user-oi7xx6yf5b 8 днів тому +1

    Замечательная реставрация! Получил удовольствие от просмотра. Успехов в увлекательном хобби!

  • @MarkoVukovic0
    @MarkoVukovic0 9 днів тому +5

    What a wonderful old machine, and so expertly restored. Great job on the pedal design. Beautifully photographed also, you have many talents. Thank you for sharing!

  • @Digging_Kangaroo
    @Digging_Kangaroo 9 днів тому +20

    I love how you restored it but left the original beauty and character .

  • @ducatisti
    @ducatisti 12 днів тому +48

    That gearbox and clutch unit are a thing of beauty!

  • @user-dm4nk6gh3b
    @user-dm4nk6gh3b 9 днів тому +4

    Да, в 30- годы, это супер и в наши дни. А качество деталей!!! Super 💯💯💯!!!

  • @watchyourselfishness
    @watchyourselfishness 9 днів тому +3

    Out of all the tools and technique in this video, the most impressive is that third hand tool. They are most useful for an extra thumbs up!

  • @tyreni
    @tyreni 9 днів тому +3

    That was amazing! All through the 90s I was the neighborhood bike guy and repaired/restored hundreds of them. You have all the equipment and experience I could only dream of. Your process and attention to detail is excellent, and the editing was superb.

  • @LFKGooner
    @LFKGooner 6 днів тому +1

    This is history in the making. Much love from Rwanda 🇷🇼

  • @user-gh9et7yo6c
    @user-gh9et7yo6c 9 днів тому +4

    Прекрасная работа,спасибо что вы есть,такую историю нужно сохранять.👍🤝

  • @FernandoBR1951
    @FernandoBR1951 10 днів тому +12

    Ready for the next 100 years .Fantastic job.

  • @antoniom.andersen6704
    @antoniom.andersen6704 9 днів тому +10

    As a former bicycle mechanic here in Denmark I think this was a wonderful job

  • @randall1959
    @randall1959 9 днів тому +2

    I like how you restored the functionality without destroying the patina.

  • @jan_pierre3138
    @jan_pierre3138 9 днів тому +2

    In addition to the forgotten things, you also revive our forgotten memories, thank you very much 🙏🏼

  • @user-yv2cz8oj1k
    @user-yv2cz8oj1k 11 днів тому +27

    Love how new bike companies pretend to have invented something new, then it turns up on a 90-130 year old bike.
    That includes bottom bracket gearboxes, oval rings, and shaft drives.

    • @SubramaniamLakshminarayanan
      @SubramaniamLakshminarayanan 10 днів тому +3

      They're betting on the assumption that people wouldn't know of 130-year-old bike design technologies.

    • @asonetuh6094
      @asonetuh6094 10 днів тому +4

      What absolutely floored me is seeing aerodynamic tri-spoke and disk wheels more than a 100 years ago. No wind tunnels or CAD - just scientific principles and intuitive design.

    • @ClifftopTragedy
      @ClifftopTragedy 9 днів тому +4

      Shut up and buy our next product !

    • @SubramaniamLakshminarayanan
      @SubramaniamLakshminarayanan 9 днів тому +1

      @@ClifftopTragedy - you are contradicting yourself. I can either shut up or buy the next product, can't do both.

    • @jean-pierredecouvreur9500
      @jean-pierredecouvreur9500 8 днів тому +2

      ​@ClifftopTragedy... and expect to throw it out shortly after the (usually very short) warranty expires!

  • @yurimelnik1372
    @yurimelnik1372 9 днів тому +2

    Очень уютная возня с добротной старинной машиной. Релакс!

  • @user-lb7fs9db3f
    @user-lb7fs9db3f 10 днів тому +2

    Чудо какое ! Смотрел как заворожённый за ходом работ . Невероятное зрелище - такой старый аппарат .
    Огромное счастье и удача что попал велосипед правильному Человеку в правильные Руки .
    What a miracle ! I watched as if fascinated by the progress of the work . It 's an incredible sight - such an old device .
    It is a great happiness and luck that the bike got into the right Hands for the right Person.

  • @Andre-vz1iw
    @Andre-vz1iw 10 днів тому +7

    What a joy to watch the Wanderer in his resurrection. Thank you for the great Video.

  • @tingeltangel5375
    @tingeltangel5375 10 днів тому +3

    Selten so etwas schönes gesehen. Mir fehlen die Worte!!!

  • @erdalokan8896
    @erdalokan8896 9 днів тому +2

    One of the most perfect videos I've had the pleasure of watching recently. Amazing effort.👍👏👏

  • @ajmalazad3772
    @ajmalazad3772 6 днів тому

    This Gentleman's Effort is Priceless To Make This Possibly As Original As It was.

  • @scummy73dude64
    @scummy73dude64 10 днів тому +11

    The 3rd hand made me laugh so hard..😂
    Well done mate. 👍

  • @pofrof4910
    @pofrof4910 9 днів тому +3

    It is lovely to watch all the vintage scenario specially those boxes inside that drawer. beautiful.

  • @user-qd7ok7fu7i
    @user-qd7ok7fu7i 10 днів тому +2

    Восстановить так как он есть в быту того времени. Это просто потресающи. 👏👏👏

  • @solkim133
    @solkim133 7 днів тому +1

    my favourite part is the "Third Hand" magically appearing at 30:40. Seriously the whole video is a masterpiece. Big thank you for sharing.

  • @TailSpinRCSpain
    @TailSpinRCSpain 11 днів тому +5

    What a strange machine, never seen so many left-hand threads. Those cast alloy frame lugs are over the top. Nice restoration job !

  • @jasonsummit1885
    @jasonsummit1885 11 днів тому +9

    This is awesome, never seen a bicycle design anything like this. Even the braking mechanism is cool.👍

  • @Julitokiss
    @Julitokiss 9 днів тому +2

    This is a marterpiece in all the ways possible. I enjoyed every second. The amount of time, time, knowledge and resources used in this video is breathtaking. Thank you and Congratulations 👏🏼

  • @BrownPeterAnthony
    @BrownPeterAnthony 9 днів тому +2

    Really nice seeing a bike restored rather than trashed, it must have been the Grand Tourer of the time.

  • @charlesdemey421
    @charlesdemey421 9 днів тому +3

    I love the way you filmed this. The details you filmed and every step it take to dismount, restore and assemble the bicycle. It must have taken a lot of efford to do it and above all to film it this way. Keep up the good work.

  • @evgeniydragondog
    @evgeniydragondog 10 днів тому +63

    Thanks for no dumb music and not re-painting bike!

  • @Suavache
    @Suavache 9 днів тому +1

    Stunned by the car. At my grandfather's age, he is a very good car restorer. Very interesting video, thank you for sharing.

  • @franktuckwell196
    @franktuckwell196 9 днів тому +2

    Magnificent. Who knew bikes had gears then and there?

  • @marcusathome
    @marcusathome 11 днів тому +12

    Underneath all that grime and dirt, that bike is i surprisingly good shape. Great job to bring it back to life!

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams 10 днів тому

      The bike has obviously been repaired and worked on over the decades, I'd say it has sat somewhere in someone's shed for 20 years (likely a relative who inherited it)

    • @marcusathome
      @marcusathome 10 днів тому

      @@SilvaDreams these old bikes are built like and as long as you keep it greased, it's good to ride. This bike is so unique with the gearbox and better alternatives available from the '50s onwards, I think it wasn't used at least for the last 50 - 60 years.
      Paint job definitely is original with its decals.

  • @user-fb1dg8yq3u
    @user-fb1dg8yq3u 11 днів тому +7

    About 100 years. Amazing. Good job!

  • @DawnUSNvet
    @DawnUSNvet 7 днів тому +1

    Beautiful restoration/preservation of a 100 year old bicycle. Thank you 😊

  • @wojciechorowski5453
    @wojciechorowski5453 9 днів тому +1

    Rusty but beautiful, great job, you gave it a new life. Respect.

  • @woopimagpie
    @woopimagpie 10 днів тому +3

    Keeping everything super original was beautifully done. It really pays respect to the life that bicycle has had. Going back to bare metal and new paint to make it look new again is all well and good, and with many restorations there isn't a choice, but I think I'd prefer this.

  • @HanstheTraffer
    @HanstheTraffer 11 днів тому +3

    Beautiful bicycle ...even more beautiful work. Thanks for posting this. Subscribed!

  • @cnielsen2006
    @cnielsen2006 8 днів тому +1

    Holy cow. No lead in animation, preview, preview review etc. etc. Just the stuff in the title. Nicely done!

  • @01sidiropoulos
    @01sidiropoulos 8 днів тому +2

    I love people telling their stories in the comments ❤❤.. Nice video man..

  • @danjohnston3422
    @danjohnston3422 12 днів тому +4

    A handsome thing, thoughtfully and respectfully brought back to life. Very well done.

  • @michaelwegscheider8656
    @michaelwegscheider8656 14 днів тому +11

    What an awesome journey and restauration! Amazing what bikes they built in this time.

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  14 днів тому +4

      Pleasure to hear that! We´re glad our style of restoring forgotten things gets that feedback!

    • @Jerry1664Bnez
      @Jerry1664Bnez 12 днів тому

      Restoring or just cleaning 😂😂bad job's

  • @qbitsday3438
    @qbitsday3438 9 днів тому +2

    Excellent ! the job looks like the MASKED MAGICIAN !

  • @kuchmar9403
    @kuchmar9403 8 днів тому

    Даже из этого короткого видео всем понятно, что техника делалась "на века", и при должном уходе могла служить десяткам поколений! Браво инженерам и мастерам, изготовившим этой велосипед!!

  • @rwes61
    @rwes61 10 днів тому +6

    Probably one of the best and well thought out restoration videos I have seen in my 63 years!

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  10 днів тому

      Wow thank you very much for that feedback!

    • @tomeksz7203
      @tomeksz7203 9 днів тому

      He didn't do anything here... He didn't even give it new paint. He took it apart and put it back together... What is there to admire?

    • @andy_liga
      @andy_liga 9 днів тому +1

      @@tomeksz7203 Unfortunataly I have to agree, the video is amazing, but as someone with quite a bit of mechanical background I struggled to watch in some instances.
      Especially the hydraulic press for crankarms made me cry inside, pressing a square taper like that pretty much bonds it forever if ANY amount of rust forms, cranks are meant to be press in place with the bolt/nut retaining them; using an hydraulic press (even if antiseize/grease was applied to the mating surfaces) will just scrap the shaft for any future disassembly.
      Again, amazing bike and video, but only ppl with no mechanical experience can just be amazed without having some bone-chilling instances during the video.

  • @siraff4461
    @siraff4461 10 днів тому +4

    So old and still a better base design than most new stuff.

    • @andy_liga
      @andy_liga 9 днів тому

      Well, that's very personal... Modern bikes are, questionably, overly fragile and maybe overly expensive, but this bike (with all due respect) holds nothing against even the most basic modern steel frame in terms of design/weight/confort/geometry. It's a spectacle to watch such a beutiful bike being preserved, but I wouln't go as far as to call it "better than most modern stuff". Gearboxes are sure reliable and amazing, but you can fix a modern drivetrain roadside with a 100g multitool, not so much for a gearbox.

    • @siraff4461
      @siraff4461 9 днів тому

      @@andy_liga You don't understand what a base design is, do you?
      I never said the bike was better than modern ones. If you're over about twelve years old your teachers are probably to blame.

    • @andy_liga
      @andy_liga 9 днів тому

      @@siraff4461 wow, someone got offended here... would you mind explaining what do you mean by "base design"?
      Do you mean the fact that everything in this bike is over-constructed and probably gonna outlast humanity itself?
      Do you mean the geometry of the bike? Cause yeah, I mean, this looks like any other upright comfy bike geometry out there, there hasn't been any real breakthrough in the geometry of upright city bikes in the last 100years.
      Do you mean the fact that the rear triangle is removable? That's a crappy design used solely to help manufacturing by introducing a significant error tolerance in the design, as shown in the video, it often cracks, due to the stress raisers in some spots, mainly the bolt/bolt eyelet and connecting pieces.
      Are you wow-ed by the fact that the tubes from the front triangle aren't welded/braised but bolted to the headtube/BB/seatstay? Again, manufacturing aid, welding a flat triangle can be very challenging without introducing some warp or deformation, especially with the rudimentary metallurgy we had back then for civilian applications, like making a "mundane bike".
      Old bikes aren't better than new ones in any measurable way (few exceptions aside like the Lotus 108 maybe), sure they can be pretty and I agree with that, but still...
      Btw I'm way older than 12yo. At that age, while you were blaming the teachers, I was busy learning mechanical engineering from my grampa :P

    • @siraff4461
      @siraff4461 9 днів тому

      @@andy_liga "learning mechanical engineering" yet you don't even understand the concept of design basics vs overall performance.
      Some of the concepts (base design) of this bike are better in a lot of ways than most new ones.
      That doesn't mean it works better. It doesn't mean its a better product. It means the ideas behind it are better.
      For instance having a sealed gearbox allows better lubrication without dirt or water ingress along with allowing for a much stronger gearset in a much smaller area.
      It also means the chain can be solid which reduces component count and increases reliability vs a derailer or even a sprung tensioner.
      It also allows a thinner driveline which allows a thinner frame throw and therefore increased strength per weight.
      There are numerous other advantages like shorter cable length vs a rear cassette, not having to spin every gear regardless of which is engaged, less unsprung weight if you're using rear suspension, a smaller rear spindle width which again reduces unsprung weight and increases strength per size, potentially less aero drag because there aren't multiple gear wheels and an s-bend in the flow - along with the thinner crank allowing the same and on and on it goes.
      Of course you knew that with your "mechanical engineering" background, right?
      Just because it was made a long time back using the materials and techniques of the day doesn't mean something newer is automatically a better design.
      Simply throwing some Shimano kit on a basic triangle for a frame is much cheaper and easier but that only makes it better if you buy into the advertising.
      Why would a modern company throw a load of r&d into something when they can sell something very similar to last years for a nice bump to people like you who don't understand that a carbon frame actually isn't that expensive or hard to make?

    • @andy_liga
      @andy_liga 9 днів тому

      @@siraff4461 I mean, I'm not here for a confrontation, I wasn't here for that to begin with either... but yeah, that's what you get when you start talking to strangers on the internet sometimes.
      Anyway, yeah, you pointed out how gearboxes are more reliable (as I stated earlier), that the this bikes design as a whole isn't bad (as I stated earlier) and that most new bike are overpriced/overly fragile (as I stated earlier).
      I mean, yeah, I don't understand where this whole aggression is coming from (I would understand if you would be the CEO of Pinion, but I wasn't shitting on gearboxes either).
      Btw I do get that you have strong opinions (since you sound like a smart person, sincerely) I just don't agree with the way of communicating them :)
      [EDIT] minor spelling

  • @kamilkusior4670
    @kamilkusior4670 9 днів тому +2

    This material is a work of art. A pleasure to watch

  • @iggysixx
    @iggysixx 9 днів тому +2

    Cool. I've seen (and worked on) a lot of bicycles, including one from the 1910s. Of course, also a lot with 'solid state' connections to the brakes (with metal rods, rather than cables).
    Never seen this gear thing before, though.
    And I have to say - it might seem like it's super crusty and rusted, but this is in very good shape indeed. Must have been well maintained over the years, and sheltered from the rain.

  • @kevinsellsit5584
    @kevinsellsit5584 11 днів тому +5

    Instant subscribe! Spectacular. The amount of machine work on this bike really shines.

  • @nozbodbubba1739
    @nozbodbubba1739 13 днів тому +12

    Beautiful restoration, the quality of the components have stood the test of time with little to no wear compared to their modern equivalents'. I see where the German company Pinion have taken their inspiration for their modern bicycle gearbox design from. 🙂

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  13 днів тому +2

      Thank you! Interesting that this is used in modern bikes as well. Did not know about that

    • @kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381
      @kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381 8 днів тому

      @@forgottenthings The rebirth is quite new, since the 1990s Schlumpf offers a gearbox but that seems to have only two gears so that it's often combined with a gear hub, but seems to be mostly used on recumbent bicycles (Liegeräder).
      And Pinion began around 2006 but the first gearbox was introduced in 2011.
      Similar to the Rohloff Speedhub it also seems to be very pricey, couldn't find exact figures, but the 12-speed C1.12 seems to cost around a thousand bucks, I got a Gudereit Bike with that transmission leased since August and with a MSRP of 3000€ it was seemingly one of the cheapest bikes that use Pinion.
      I guess compared to that a full Shimano XT 12-speed kit (crank, chain, rear derailleur, cassette, shifter) won't cost you more than 500 bucks.
      And at first glance you may also confuse it with an Electric middle motor by Bosch, Yamaha or Shimano.

  • @marktalbott3835
    @marktalbott3835 13 днів тому +68

    I've been a bicycle mechanic for 30 years. On and off. I think everybody knows how that goes. This is the coolest fucking thing I've ever seen. I had no idea this kind of mechanism existed back then. Remarkable.

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  13 днів тому +9

      Thank you for your comment! A company called Adler had a similiar model, but with a more complicated three-speed gearbox.
      Bicycle history is super interesting!

    • @My_Op
      @My_Op 13 днів тому +3

      Bike mechanic (on and off too) and I have to say you're a source of inspiration to me: I guess you realize my dreams, f*cking satisfying to see

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  13 днів тому +1

      @@My_Op Wow! Thank you for your comment!!

    • @wallpurgesnight8209
      @wallpurgesnight8209 12 днів тому +7

      @Mark - Why do you feel the need to use such words? Are you 12?

    • @Kurt-tq6ew
      @Kurt-tq6ew 12 днів тому +2

      I’ve got a gearbox bike from 1908. And it still works perfectly.

  • @More-Space-In-Ear
    @More-Space-In-Ear 9 днів тому +2

    I love the vintage tools you used, when I say vintage I mean around 40+ year old tools...wonderful restoration, well done

  • @eddiexxxx
    @eddiexxxx 10 днів тому +2

    Without a shadow of a doubt, The Best entertaining, educational and absorbing video I have ever watched. Thank you.

  • @Bluepeter62
    @Bluepeter62 12 днів тому +6

    Good job👍 I am a collector of those gearbox bikes. I have a 4-speed COSMOS (Sport AG, Biel), 4-speed RAPPA (Rapperswil), 3-speed MUTAPED (Sport AG, Biel), and 3-speed ANKER Berg- und Talfahrrad (Bielefeld).
    BRENNABOR (Brandenburg) was another Manufacturer of those Bikes.

  • @JJ62
    @JJ62 13 днів тому +17

    Some very interesting design features on that bike. I’d like to know more about the freewheel mechanism on the Torpedo coaster brake, and I’ve never seen that type of gearbox on a bicycle before, that’s remarkable. I shall look into that model of bike and learn more about it. I liked your home-made crank puller too, very clever.
    I’m also sure that there was a lot of pre-preparation before the strip-down, there is no way some of those nuts and bolts came apart so easily with just a squirt of WD-40! I’d have also used anti-seize or copaslip on every one of those fixings, especially the stem, seatpost and pedals. I’ve done a few vintage bike restorations and none of them have come apart that easily!
    But that was a very interesting 30 minutes, thank you!

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  13 днів тому +9

      Thank you! You find more information about that model by searching for "Wanderer Getrieberad". A very interesting competitor at that time is also the "Adler Getrieberad" which even features a 3-speed gearbox. You can find more information regarding the Torpedo hub at scheunenfun.de/explosionszeichnung.htm. The website is a little bit messy, but the information is really good.
      You got us, some parts were really stuck and took a lot of WD-40 and time. Nevertheless, it came apart more easily than we are used to.

    • @caroleast9636
      @caroleast9636 10 днів тому

      Agreed. After many frustrating fights to separate parts without destroying them, I would always use Coppaslip (or similar products) when reassembling. That’s not going against originality. That’s just good common sense.

  • @all-to
    @all-to 10 днів тому +2

    It's like going back 100 years. It's beautiful.

  • @warthogoftheyear
    @warthogoftheyear 9 днів тому +2

    What an amazing work, man!
    Can't decide the video cutting, or the restoration is the more perfect thing.
    I am also amazed by your vintage tools, boxes, sets of parts, furnitures. It really brought me back to the '30s.
    This was the first restoration video that i was watching from the first to the last second.
    Thanks for the experience, greetings from Hungary!
    Subscribed for sure...

  • @FourIntoOne
    @FourIntoOne 11 днів тому +4

    Good looking, well put together, smooth and quiet, turned out really very good, visually impressive, not to mention good technology. Oh yeah, the bike was good too!

  • @arthurn9237
    @arthurn9237 10 днів тому +3

    OH MY THANK YOU SIR FOR THST VIEW INTO YOUR DRAWES YOU HAVE SOME MOST INTERESTING JUNK IN THERE
    SUCH AS THE WIPPERMAN BOX WITH CHAIN ALONG WITH OTHER BOXES OF BICYCLE PARTS I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ! I REMAINED
    RIVITED TO YOUR VIDEO AND ENJOYED IT TO THA END 👍👍 ALL THA BEST FROM FLA. U S A

  • @Tom-Lahaye
    @Tom-Lahaye 10 днів тому +1

    Very well conserved time piece from a time when bicycles for everyday use were still a high quality item.
    I learned my first mechanics working on such bicycles and the nice thing was that you could repair everything on these. Back in the 1970s and 80s you would get most of the small parts like the BBs or the cups they go in, the splines and so much more.
    Today you have to replace the whole assembly when something breaks, and often it is not worth doing that anymore unless you have an high end sports bike.

  • @Putt-Putt-Vroom
    @Putt-Putt-Vroom 10 днів тому +2

    Such a cool piece of history and unique gearbox. Amazing job and thank you for sharing!

  • @user-jq2rf4nf3o
    @user-jq2rf4nf3o 12 днів тому +5

    A piece of history indeed - beautiful

  • @fredrikvanlienden6749
    @fredrikvanlienden6749 12 днів тому +4

    Great job and a very nicely filmed video to boot! Some of the details on that old wanderer are stunning, the saddle with it's complicated springs, the "W" in the main chain-gear, the bolted rear frame. Thanks for sharing!

  • @mansurazeez2229
    @mansurazeez2229 9 днів тому +2

    This is a 'super' bike! ... beautifully- made and will last forever! 👍💪

  • @jluttr9808
    @jluttr9808 8 днів тому +1

    Such an amazing video! To see the respect of the old (ww2?) tools, work bench, bike frame holder, with carbon 3d is a gift. More than excellent restoration to protect a piece of functional art. I loved how silent the bike was after completion, like a ghost, that's a perfect bike IMHO. Thank you!

  • @OliverReilly1
    @OliverReilly1 10 днів тому +11

    Man blows peoples minds by cleaning and servicing a bike. 🧐

    • @christopherbrubaker2070
      @christopherbrubaker2070 8 днів тому

      It’s pretty amazing that most of the same engineering has lasted so long and not changed much. It’s a modern connection to the past, but I’ve never seen the gear box before. I found it nostalgic and an honorable way to spend time.

    • @OliverReilly1
      @OliverReilly1 8 днів тому

      @@christopherbrubaker2070 yes, I agree with that, but he never restored it. The title is misleading. This is not a restoration. It’s a service and a clean no matter how much you butter it up

    • @christopherbrubaker2070
      @christopherbrubaker2070 8 днів тому

      @@OliverReilly1 Oh right, ok I got ya. Yah I don’t like misleading titles either. I wonder if I would have clicked on “ hey I’m polishing my bicycle” though. Lol but yah I can see what you meant.

    • @OliverReilly1
      @OliverReilly1 8 днів тому

      @@christopherbrubaker2070 to be honest, I would have clicked it just to see the gearbox as I’ve never seen one before like yourself, but I felt disappointed that he didn’t fully restore it, but I also respect he kept the character of the bike. Mechanical restoration would have been a more fitting title

  • @PaulG.x
    @PaulG.x 11 днів тому +5

    17:50 Tip: If you need to impregnate a felt or sintered part with oil , you can immerse it in a jar with the lubricant in it and draw a vacuum on the jar.
    This will extract the air from the porous part and the oil will replace the air.

  • @peeps124
    @peeps124 10 днів тому +1

    What a beautifully made machine, it must have been a quality bicycle in its day. Great work conserving it!

  • @owl5053
    @owl5053 10 днів тому +1

    коробка передач как у машины, круто! Отличная работа!

  • @Jack233
    @Jack233 8 днів тому +3

    This bicycle is a product of Wanderer-Werke AG Chemnitz, which, in addition to bicycles, also manufactured motorcycles, cars, delivery vans and office machines. In 1932, Wanderer became part of Auto Union AG and was represented in its logo by one of four rings, just like Audi, Horch and DKW. From 1965 onwards (until today), only the name Audi was used, but the Auto Union logo was retained. The Wanderer-Werke factory in Chemnitz still exists to this day, but sadly has long been left behind and is slowly falling apart. Bicycles are still sold under the name Wanderer, but those have nothing to do with the original company, only the naming rights are used. Interestingly enough, Chemnitz has been chosen as the European Capital of Culture 2025.

  • @HermanOtto-wr2nn
    @HermanOtto-wr2nn 14 днів тому +4

    Witam z Polski piękny rower łącznie z super pracą , to nie sztuka wypolerować elementy ma tak być jak obecnie zachowana starość trzeba to czuć pozdrawiam oczywiście zostawiłem łapkę w górę miłego dnia

  • @49oldmachinist43
    @49oldmachinist43 8 днів тому +1

    First time I've watched you, by accident actually, I'm a retired machinist and was spellbound with your work. By chance I'm now working on a bike right now. I also subscribed. Thank you, I know it takes a lot of work, I also know how much you enjoy that work.

  • @09simid
    @09simid 10 днів тому +2

    Must be the coolest bike I've ever seen! And that restoration, while keeping the patina, 100/100. AMAZING WORK!

  • @iraqisonic9920
    @iraqisonic9920 11 днів тому +3

    أنا مشترك جديد من العراق واحب اعمالك

  • @giangipoli3760
    @giangipoli3760 10 днів тому +5

    I like so much how you have managed to preserve the signs of time on this nice bike. Very different from the restorations you often see around here, that destroys everything to get just a fake new.

  • @mirosuchar9518
    @mirosuchar9518 8 днів тому +1

    Nádherný bicykel ,kgory vydržícele desaťročia. . Inžinierske umenie. Perfektna detailna oprava z vašej strany. Vdaka za uzasne video z opravy .👍👍👍👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇸🇰

  • @karolwlad76
    @karolwlad76 8 днів тому +1

    Beautiful piece of old mechanics preserved for another many years. Nice job for keeping things as they were back then. I really enjoyed this video. Thank you.

  • @user-xh5kx4mi1h
    @user-xh5kx4mi1h 13 днів тому +4

    думаю такой экземпляр после реставрации стоит тысяч 5 евро?

    • @johanjanssens4530
      @johanjanssens4530 12 днів тому +1

      Ya dumaiou 15.000

    • @user-xh5kx4mi1h
      @user-xh5kx4mi1h 12 днів тому

      @@johanjanssens4530 нееее, 15.000 дорого, может и 5.000 дорого. Пусть автор раскроет тайну.

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  12 днів тому

      More like around 2000 euro

  • @c.k.e.n.T.u.k
    @c.k.e.n.T.u.k 12 днів тому +4

    Хм, а мне эта КПП нравится больше, чем современные системы)

    • @user-gx7qo2fi7x
      @user-gx7qo2fi7x 9 днів тому

      И тяжелее это всё на 20 кг.

    • @dmitriyminor4875
      @dmitriyminor4875 7 днів тому

      Судя по всему Вы разбираетесь в вопросе, я правильно понял, что тут основной режим это прямая передача, а при переключении зацепляется 4я шестерня и получается понижающий редуктор?)

    • @c.k.e.n.T.u.k
      @c.k.e.n.T.u.k 7 днів тому

      @@dmitriyminor4875 , судя по видео - да: прямая + понижающая.

    • @c.k.e.n.T.u.k
      @c.k.e.n.T.u.k 7 днів тому

      @@user-gx7qo2fi7x , а что не на полтонны сразу? :) Норм всё с весом. + ещё и так основательно, что сломать очень постараться нужно.

    • @user-gx7qo2fi7x
      @user-gx7qo2fi7x 6 днів тому

      @@c.k.e.n.T.u.k Передёргивать не надо. Этот железный драндулет с фарой от мопэда и весом как у мопэда.

  • @user-lb6mm6on7n
    @user-lb6mm6on7n 6 днів тому

    Сейчас таких не выпускают, даже Фрици. Встречал немецкие велики, самые лучшие в мире, но такой модели не видал. Мастер молодец, руки тем концом вставлены! Не мечтаю, но хотел бы такой велик. Человек занят делом, восстанавливает и наверняка это ещё не плохой доход. В наше время, мало кто умеет работать руками.

  • @ChrisB...
    @ChrisB... 2 дні тому

    As of this year all of my bike bearings are sealed, end of an era. That bike is amazing!

  • @user-id6mj8uw9b
    @user-id6mj8uw9b 13 днів тому +8

    Pretty nice job. But i got a dout calling this restoration. It may be called a deep maintenance, not a restoration. No paint job at all. No chrome plating job either. This bike become less dirty and much clean, i agree. But the painted serfices looks like bike was on a scrap-heap 50 years instead of 90. Shure You can do it better. Best regrats.

    • @paulwomack5866
      @paulwomack5866 12 днів тому +1

      It's a restoration or conservation, not a renovation.

    • @rickblackwell6435
      @rickblackwell6435 10 днів тому

      I have heard the term ‘sympathetic restoration’ used to mean the physical defects are fixed but the aesthetics are retained sort of like a patina.

  • @laserbeam1620
    @laserbeam1620 10 днів тому +1

    I really appreciate that you used every tool properly. I see videos or people in person using tools backwards or the wrong way period. Even good mechanics. Subscribed!

  • @Bob.Jenkins
    @Bob.Jenkins 8 днів тому

    The sheer quality of that bicycle is just amazing... it reminds me of a Volvo car, when Volvo was still a purely Swedish company.