I like the idea of a good sounding 3.5 EB. Pretty sure the GTR has a Y pipe from the downpipes and a single large exhaust pipe till the end where there’s another y pipe for dual exhaust. Bet that wouldn’t sound bad and would be closer to the GTR sound
What I believe we are missing, once the catts and resonator are gone, are 3 inch down pipes. We've 2.5" for days and I think it contributes to the rasp and "nasal" resonance of our setups. I'm catless, 2.5 down to 3 inch pipes back into a resonated Magnaflow x-pipe 3- inch pipes to Varex adjustable exhaust. I'm going to build 3 inch down pipes and see how much that opens up. Keep going man. Really like what I see here. Also, excellent name. From one "Bro" to another.
I'm sure 3 inch DPs would give a deeper tone for sure. I'm exploring the possibility of creating a tuned exhaust set up in addition to my current idea. A professionally built piece is something that I would like to do soon to get the fitment right. And thanks for the support! I do really appreciate it! 😁👍
I had that piece remade professionally using 304 stainless steel. Sounded better, and definitely looked right! I since sold the SHO but kept that custom x pipe. In a recent video I did, for Fun I loosely adapted that piece to my Cobra and my EcoBoost Mustang. The results were interesting! You should definitely check out that video. 🙂
A v6 will just never have that full sound a v8 with the extra pistons. I have owned 2 grand prix gxps and now own a 2013 SHO.. I like the sho more driving wise but I absolutely miss that low rumble of gxp
I have the 2015 SHO PP. I have deleted the resonator and the mufflers and straight piped it all the way out, leaving the cats till I can get a cat back system. And yes they make a SHO without PP (performance package).
Exhausts made from titanium will have a more exotic sound- Something about how the sound reverberates (sp?) No cats or resonators will definitely change the tone as well as make it extremely loud lol
Yup. Different materials have different resonance characteristics. The type of metal, thickness, diameter, length, transitions, configuration, all contribute to the tone and overall sound of an exhaust. The list of different ways to alter the exhaust note is extensive. May I say it can even be, exhausting... 😁
nice work! im trying to get my MKS EcoBoost to sound better as well, i agree with the comment about equal length downpipes, i think thats the biggest factor contributing to the sound.
You should make sure it's all dual piping from the cats on back and do resonator delete and in place put a dual x pipe set up and take off that over complicated rear exhaust set up
Keller's point is likely more that those ramps can, and frequently do, collapse entirely. Hint: that is not something jack stands commonly do. Ramps are not intended to replace jack stands for a reason. Mentioning that a jack and a lift can fail isnt relevant either, since a jack should NEVER be relied on to hold a vehicle with you under it, and a lift that is locked in place will not fail unless something incredibly rare and catastrophic happens, and if it isn't locked in place you should never be under the vehicle. You clearly did not know these things 8 months ago, so in the likely event you haven't learned them between then and now, you're welcome, now you know.
Thanks! You know I didn't pay attention to the drone. It does drone but at a higher RPM now. I think before with just the muffler delete it would drone badly around 2k RPM. Now I think it's around 2.5k that the drone occurs. I actually have an update video that I will upload soon to this. Exciting project for sure!
Can you post it all on the SHO Forum? At least the video. We SHO owners would love to have a tutorial. For the time being I just have H&R Springs, resonator delete, and K&N Filter & CAI on my 2016. Doesn't sound too bad, but who knows? Do the upgrades ever end?
If you could help me out! I love your videos I really can’t stand the raspy-ness of most the exhausts for SHO’s, I’m considering doing a custom because they seem to tend to sound a lot meaner, thanks in advance!
I like but to me a v6 should sound like a v6. Have a 3.5 na I just did a resonator delete with magna flow mufflers specifically designed for a v6. Sounds great. Deep tone. Everyone ask me if it's a v8 then I ask if it sounds bad not one person has told me no
Muffler delete and resonator delete will add a significant amount of volume and turbo noise to the exhaust sound. Doing that usually causes rasp and drone unless that's what you want. You can take that over the top with a set of downpipes. If you a more refined sound, a full cat back system might get you a better result. Alternatively, a resonator delete with a decent set of straight thru mufflers will give you volume and help with the rasp and drone. Other options are combining both banks into a large single pipe and running a single exit boom tube, or muffler. More so, you could split the large single pipe back to smaller dual pipes for a factory dual exhaust. Lastly you could replicate my exhaust. Someone did their own version of my rear X Pipe with the rest of the system straight Piped. It's one of the most aggressive sounding SHO's I've heard.
To get it to sound like a gtr or a Ford gt, the downpipes must be very close to the same length. I don’t know how an sho is configured, but I know there’s one turbo on the front, and one on the rear. I’m assuming the rear downpipe is nowhere near as long as the one coming from the front turbo. Find a way to make them equal length, and you’ll have the sound you’re looking for. I’ve been hoping someone would do this!
That's actually a really good point! I didn't take the equal length DP's into consideration. Once I get the rear section done, I will work on the mid section. Now I think I'll do my best to incorporate an extension on bank 1 down pipe to get it even.
@@KarzKreated it’ll definitely get you what you’re after. Everyone assumes x pipes equalize the exhaust enough to make up for the difference in downpipe length, but they don’t. With your exhaust exactly as it is now, just doing equal length downpipes WILL get the gtr sound. Ecoboost f150’s could do the same thing, but I doubt most of their owners would like that sound coming from a truck. All ecoboosts sound like towels flapping in the wind to me. This would fix that 👍🏻
@@KarzKreated ua-cam.com/video/PSGz0qHV_mo/v-deo.html this will give you an idea. This guy just has a pushrod v6 from the 80’s, and it still sounds good.
🤣 Yes! I definitely do not like any of the aftermarket exhausts available. Everyone's trying to hard to make a v6 sound like a V8. I want my v6 to sound like a v6 lol. Thanks man!
@@KarzKreated right, its honestly more like an “import” than a domestic. Embrace the v6 🤷🏻♂️. I’ll be curious to see if you can make it happen. It’ll be the only good sounding SHO
I had catless downpipes and muffler delete and it sounded great until you hit 3k rpm then It sounds a clapped out Honda civic put mufflers on and still have that rasp
Before the the x pipe I had a muffler delete only. Factory exhaust all the way to the turbos. Same thing with the x pipe. The x pipe just replaces the mufflers.
What does the x pipe do for the exhaust on a SHO exactly ? I’m looking at getting the magma flow muffler with an x pipe in it for where my resonator went.
In a traditional setup much like how your setup will be, adding a X pipe tends to create a more aggressive, raspy and higher pitch exhaust. How I did it changed the sound charismatics slightly more and gives a more unique tone similar to that of a ecoboost Ford GT.
For this video and the newest exhaust videos, the only thing I changed was removing the rear mufflers and having that piece put in their place. The factory down pipes, third cat and resonator is still on the car 😊
@@KarzKreated wow I’m surprised it actually sounds pretty good like that, I really can’t stand all these Corsa exhausts that I hear on all the different SHOs it’s the most raspy sounding garbage tbh
I deleted the resonator & third cat on my 2013 MKS. I installed X-pipe in place of resonator & installed some Flowmaster Flow FX straight thru muffs. Oh & I’m still catted BTW. I do “like” how it sounds but my freakin iPhone can’t ever seem to get a decent sound clip. It always ends up sounding shitty on the iPhone! Ugggghhhh
Hey I got a 2013 mks ecoboost also just got it 6 months ago with 30k miles. I'm going to do a tune ( I'm leaning towards Torrie at unleashed) and plugs sensor and thermostat. I'm not sure what I wanna do about exhaust yet. What all do you have done? Mine is silver as well!
The only exhaust mod I have currently is my custom rear X Pipe. Everything else is as it was from Ford. The most simple and cost effective sound mod is just to delete the mufflers. Gives enough sound to make you smile but not annoyingly loud. The only problem with muffler deletes is interior drone.
@@kruek24 not yet brother. I wanted to wait until winter was over. So I'm about to pull the trigger next week. Yes I had PTU issue on my 16 explorer. Unfortunate. I need to read up on how to change it.. im hoping with 31k miles it's not too late! I still think I'm sold on going with an unleashed tune. Torrie seems to be good. I'm thinking of adding the livernoise intake and exhaust!
The car was tuned, but I don't think it had anything to do with the 2 step like sound you hear. Maybe the tune helped accentuate the sound. But it was just bouncing off the Rev limiter. I think that was somewhere around 5k RPMs.
Unfortunately no. I was gonna have this piece made in batch orders once I got the fitment and everything just right. But I since had to sell the SHO and ultimately scrap the project. You can have it made at a good exhaust shop. It can be expensive though depending on the shop and materials used. Glad you like it though!
Similar. Does change the pitch and changes the character at mid rpm's. I'm hoping the final piece will tighten up the tone. Many leaks is likely causing additional rasp.
Honestly doesn’t sound that good, you can make it sound way better without trying to get that exhaust and go through the struggle of tucking the exhaust and everything
It looks even worse now that parts of my bumper cover is melted lol. It's not staying like this. I'm looking into having a fab shop put together a simular piece that fits like it's suppose to.
I have a SHO and love the way your car sounds.... I also live in MD... teach me Obi Wan
I like your videos, but I do not have your automobile know-how
Awesome! What year?
Michael Hawkins Are you in real estate and have a black sho
@@escheitlin84 oh shit😂😂I always wondered if stuff like this happens
@@warlord8521 I have the blue one you flashed me in the Denny's parking lot in Essex, I pulled up to you and we talked for a bit before you had to go.
I like the idea of a good sounding 3.5 EB. Pretty sure the GTR has a Y pipe from the downpipes and a single large exhaust pipe till the end where there’s another y pipe for dual exhaust. Bet that wouldn’t sound bad and would be closer to the GTR sound
As difficult as it is to make the 3.5 eco-boost actually “sound good,“ I am really looking forward to seeing how all this turns out buddy. 😁👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the support! I'm gonna have some fun with this 😁
Just do catless down pipe or resonator delete
Sounds good but looks horrible under the bumper.
I agree. Hanging that low would concern me on the exhaust
What I believe we are missing, once the catts and resonator are gone, are 3 inch down pipes. We've 2.5" for days and I think it contributes to the rasp and "nasal" resonance of our setups. I'm catless, 2.5 down to 3 inch pipes back into a resonated Magnaflow x-pipe 3- inch pipes to Varex adjustable exhaust. I'm going to build 3 inch down pipes and see how much that opens up. Keep going man. Really like what I see here. Also, excellent name. From one "Bro" to another.
I'm sure 3 inch DPs would give a deeper tone for sure. I'm exploring the possibility of creating a tuned exhaust set up in addition to my current idea. A professionally built piece is something that I would like to do soon to get the fitment right. And thanks for the support! I do really appreciate it! 😁👍
Check out my sounds clips of my Explorer Sport, basically the same drivetrain...3" down pipes, full custom exhaust...
Sounds like my MK3 Toyota Supra Turbo (7MGTE) catless 3" turbo back exhaust ..... I like how it sounds.
It looks fast!!! ❤❤❤
I’m commenting mid video so forgive me but this is how my brain works. What exhausted was on the car when you pulled in. It didn’t sound bad
Just a muffler delete.
Looks a little ridiculous but it sounds freaking awesome, nice job! I would love to have my Ecoboost mustang sound like that!
I had that piece remade professionally using 304 stainless steel. Sounded better, and definitely looked right! I since sold the SHO but kept that custom x pipe. In a recent video I did, for Fun I loosely adapted that piece to my Cobra and my EcoBoost Mustang. The results were interesting! You should definitely check out that video. 🙂
@@KarzKreated what link is that? For the Ecoboost mustang
Your ecoboost mustang is only a 4 cyl. His Taurus is a 3.5 v6 ecoboost
A v6 will just never have that full sound a v8 with the extra pistons. I have owned 2 grand prix gxps and now own a 2013 SHO.. I like the sho more driving wise but I absolutely miss that low rumble of gxp
I have a 2013 SHO performance, I would love for it to sound like this! :D I also am in Maryland as well lol
Check out the newer videos of the exhaust! It's come a long way since this video!
I have the 2015 SHO PP. I have deleted the resonator and the mufflers and straight piped it all the way out, leaving the cats till I can get a cat back system. And yes they make a SHO without PP (performance package).
Exhausts made from titanium will have a more exotic sound- Something about how the sound reverberates (sp?) No cats or resonators will definitely change the tone as well as make it extremely loud lol
Yup. Different materials have different resonance characteristics.
The type of metal, thickness, diameter, length, transitions, configuration, all contribute to the tone and overall sound of an exhaust.
The list of different ways to alter the exhaust note is extensive.
May I say it can even be, exhausting... 😁
put a vibrant 12 inch resonator on it. it will sound amazing
I gotta 16 sho what all did you use for this set up I absolutely love the sound
nice work! im trying to get my MKS EcoBoost to sound better as well, i agree with the comment about equal length downpipes, i think thats the biggest factor contributing to the sound.
I have an MKS, have you done anything to it? I want to put some mods on it but I'm not sure what I should do first
Equalization of gases and keeping the gases from cooling will create the best tone
Sounds good
I've got a 2015 SHO, 4th one I've owned.
You should make sure it's all dual piping from the cats on back and do resonator delete and in place put a dual x pipe set up and take off that over complicated rear exhaust set up
Sounds mean AF!
I’m guessing someone said this but.. you need to have some safety stands under the car.
Those ramps can fail.
so can a jack, stand, and lift. your point?
Keller's point is likely more that those ramps can, and frequently do, collapse entirely. Hint: that is not something jack stands commonly do. Ramps are not intended to replace jack stands for a reason. Mentioning that a jack and a lift can fail isnt relevant either, since a jack should NEVER be relied on to hold a vehicle with you under it, and a lift that is locked in place will not fail unless something incredibly rare and catastrophic happens, and if it isn't locked in place you should never be under the vehicle. You clearly did not know these things 8 months ago, so in the likely event you haven't learned them between then and now, you're welcome, now you know.
Lol brother you have to do more than a muffler swap to get a sound change.
actually doesn't sound that bad at all!! how bad is the drone at highway speed and at what speed is it occurring?
Thanks! You know I didn't pay attention to the drone. It does drone but at a higher RPM now. I think before with just the muffler delete it would drone badly around 2k RPM. Now I think it's around 2.5k that the drone occurs. I actually have an update video that I will upload soon to this. Exciting project for sure!
Can you post it all on the SHO Forum? At least the video. We SHO owners would love to have a tutorial.
For the time being I just have H&R Springs, resonator delete, and K&N Filter & CAI on my 2016.
Doesn't sound too bad, but who knows? Do the upgrades ever end?
The act of plugging your ear instead of finding ear pro is all I needed to see...
Please don't tell OSHA🙏
Sounded better before
V6s are hard to make sound good. Doesn't sound bad, but it doesn't sound great.
Sounds nice
not really a fan of how it looks but cant argue with the results....sounds dang good
I have another video with this exhaust professionally recreated from 304 stainless. Looks amazing and sounds great!
I bet it would have sounded similar if you didn't do an X pipe
You have to cross flow the exhuast off each bank
Sounds great! Interested how the rest of your exhaust is though.
If you could help me out! I love your videos I really can’t stand the raspy-ness of most the exhausts for SHO’s, I’m considering doing a custom because they seem to tend to sound a lot meaner, thanks in advance!
I been trying to get my Turbos whistle I put a K&N it only done a small amount
The exhaust is responsible for the turbo whistle. The simplest way to get more turbo whistle is a simple muffler delete.
I like but to me a v6 should sound like a v6. Have a 3.5 na I just did a resonator delete with magna flow mufflers specifically designed for a v6. Sounds great. Deep tone. Everyone ask me if it's a v8 then I ask if it sounds bad not one person has told me no
"To me a v6 should sound like a v6", "Everyone ask me if it's a v8" That would mean you dont like how it sounds correct?
ima need some input. i just got a 2015 sho. trying to make it sound like a monster
Muffler delete and resonator delete will add a significant amount of volume and turbo noise to the exhaust sound. Doing that usually causes rasp and drone unless that's what you want. You can take that over the top with a set of downpipes. If you a more refined sound, a full cat back system might get you a better result. Alternatively, a resonator delete with a decent set of straight thru mufflers will give you volume and help with the rasp and drone. Other options are combining both banks into a large single pipe and running a single exit boom tube, or muffler. More so, you could split the large single pipe back to smaller dual pipes for a factory dual exhaust. Lastly you could replicate my exhaust. Someone did their own version of my rear X Pipe with the rest of the system straight Piped. It's one of the most aggressive sounding SHO's I've heard.
Here's a link to that car ua-cam.com/video/jd8T-KEj0u8/v-deo.html
To get it to sound like a gtr or a Ford gt, the downpipes must be very close to the same length. I don’t know how an sho is configured, but I know there’s one turbo on the front, and one on the rear. I’m assuming the rear downpipe is nowhere near as long as the one coming from the front turbo. Find a way to make them equal length, and you’ll have the sound you’re looking for. I’ve been hoping someone would do this!
That's actually a really good point! I didn't take the equal length DP's into consideration. Once I get the rear section done, I will work on the mid section. Now I think I'll do my best to incorporate an extension on bank 1 down pipe to get it even.
@@KarzKreated it’ll definitely get you what you’re after. Everyone assumes x pipes equalize the exhaust enough to make up for the difference in downpipe length, but they don’t. With your exhaust exactly as it is now, just doing equal length downpipes WILL get the gtr sound. Ecoboost f150’s could do the same thing, but I doubt most of their owners would like that sound coming from a truck. All ecoboosts sound like towels flapping in the wind to me. This would fix that 👍🏻
@@KarzKreated ua-cam.com/video/PSGz0qHV_mo/v-deo.html this will give you an idea. This guy just has a pushrod v6 from the 80’s, and it still sounds good.
🤣 Yes! I definitely do not like any of the aftermarket exhausts available. Everyone's trying to hard to make a v6 sound like a V8. I want my v6 to sound like a v6 lol. Thanks man!
@@KarzKreated right, its honestly more like an “import” than a domestic. Embrace the v6 🤷🏻♂️. I’ll be curious to see if you can make it happen. It’ll be the only good sounding SHO
I had catless downpipes and muffler delete and it sounded great until you hit 3k rpm then It sounds a clapped out Honda civic put mufflers on and still have that rasp
Did you make any changes to your bovs for your turbos to sound like that?
The front BOV was venting to atmosphere. I left the rear BOV connected. It made it louder but not obnoxious that way.
What was the exhaust before the x pipe ?!?!? Please reply I love the turbo whistle
Before the the x pipe I had a muffler delete only. Factory exhaust all the way to the turbos. Same thing with the x pipe. The x pipe just replaces the mufflers.
Hey love the channel keep up the great work. Do you have any S.H.O parts you'd like to sell
I have a car just like yours.
Thx
Thanks! I appreciate your support! And as a matter of fact, I do have a few parts to sell.
What does the x pipe do for the exhaust on a SHO exactly ? I’m looking at getting the magma flow muffler with an x pipe in it for where my resonator went.
In a traditional setup much like how your setup will be, adding a X pipe tends to create a more aggressive, raspy and higher pitch exhaust. How I did it changed the sound charismatics slightly more and gives a more unique tone similar to that of a ecoboost Ford GT.
What was his setup before???
24 x 3.5 inch exhaust tips in place of the mufflers
What mods/exhaust do you have on your SHO before the New X pipe mod? Thought it sounds pretty good lol
For this video and the newest exhaust videos, the only thing I changed was removing the rear mufflers and having that piece put in their place. The factory down pipes, third cat and resonator is still on the car 😊
@@KarzKreated wow I’m surprised it actually sounds pretty good like that, I really can’t stand all these Corsa exhausts that I hear on all the different SHOs it’s the most raspy sounding garbage tbh
I completely agree! Which is why I decided to make my own lol. I'm glad you like the exhaust!
Did this change the drone inside of the car compared to the muffler delete?
It did not rid any drone. However it did change what RPM the drone occurs.
sounds good looks like hot garbage
I deleted the resonator & third cat on my 2013 MKS. I installed X-pipe in place of resonator & installed some Flowmaster Flow FX straight thru muffs. Oh & I’m still catted BTW. I do “like” how it sounds but my freakin iPhone can’t ever seem to get a decent sound clip. It always ends up sounding shitty on the iPhone! Ugggghhhh
Nice! I would figure the iPhone would have a decent microphone. I'm only using a Gopro Hero 8 for most of the video/audio recording.
Hey I got a 2013 mks ecoboost also just got it 6 months ago with 30k miles. I'm going to do a tune ( I'm leaning towards Torrie at unleashed) and plugs sensor and thermostat. I'm not sure what I wanna do about exhaust yet. What all do you have done? Mine is silver as well!
The only exhaust mod I have currently is my custom rear X Pipe. Everything else is as it was from Ford. The most simple and cost effective sound mod is just to delete the mufflers. Gives enough sound to make you smile but not annoyingly loud. The only problem with muffler deletes is interior drone.
@@Chamacurmom Make sure to get that PTU fluid changed homie. Did you get the tune?
@@kruek24 not yet brother. I wanted to wait until winter was over. So I'm about to pull the trigger next week. Yes I had PTU issue on my 16 explorer. Unfortunate. I need to read up on how to change it.. im hoping with 31k miles it's not too late! I still think I'm sold on going with an unleashed tune. Torrie seems to be good. I'm thinking of adding the livernoise intake and exhaust!
How do you get the car to make the 2 step sound when revving. Is it with a tune?
The car was tuned, but I don't think it had anything to do with the 2 step like sound you hear.
Maybe the tune helped accentuate the sound.
But it was just bouncing off the Rev limiter.
I think that was somewhere around 5k RPMs.
@@KarzKreated oh ok thanks. What tuner did you use?
Gear Head tunes loaded with a SCT X4
@@KarzKreated thanks!
Does anyone make this x-pipe for the shos? Would love to try and get it on mine
Unfortunately no. I was gonna have this piece made in batch orders once I got the fitment and everything just right. But I since had to sell the SHO and ultimately scrap the project. You can have it made at a good exhaust shop. It can be expensive though depending on the shop and materials used. Glad you like it though!
Maryland 👀
Yesir 🙂
Well thats 12 minutes of my life im never getting back. Sounds like every other 3.5 with jacked up exhaust. Hollow and missing 2 pulses.
No refunds
@@KarzKreated 😆 great response 👍
Professional 💯😎👌
Go catless keep the resonator
sounds about like a muffler delete
Similar. Does change the pitch and changes the character at mid rpm's. I'm hoping the final piece will tighten up the tone. Many leaks is likely causing additional rasp.
Yeah I have a muffler delete and sounds quite literally exactly the same
Check out my newest upload. I updated this piece by having it made from 304 stainless. Sounds a bit better now with the updated version.
Don’t cut the pipes
Cat delete resonator delete into your xpipe
It's in the plans 😉
i coulda had a v8
Honestly doesn’t sound that good, you can make it sound way better without trying to get that exhaust and go through the struggle of tucking the exhaust and everything
Looks dumn seeing everything underneath.. like looks really bad tbh and unprofessional looking like that
It looks even worse now that parts of my bumper cover is melted lol. It's not staying like this. I'm looking into having a fab shop put together a simular piece that fits like it's suppose to.
If you have this still tucked away, what’s your number for someone to buy it off you