Stockfish BONGCLOUDS Kitten
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- In this video, a fascinating chess game takes place between Stockfish and Mittens (the crazy strong kitten chess bot) that features a Bongcloud opening. Please note: no kittens or fish were harmed in the filming of this video.
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Eric trying to find the 1 blunder in a video about playing bongcloud against an engine was very funny.
20:35
When bongcloud is brilliant move.
Clearly it's a book opening
It's theory
Didn't expect to see you here 😅
The entire human race now roots for Stockfish
I'd love to see Stockfish against Mittens in Danish Gambit from one of your recent videos. I'm curious what attacking ideas will Stockfish have
Try the accelerated bongcloud, you don't push king out but you just refuse to castle and walk the king around the rook.
Would be really nice to see this with Stockfish truly being able to crunch the numbers for a long long time. I'll bet it could win with Bongcloud.
Eric+Stockfish: it's time for tactics
Mittens: that's what she said
I took a class once on AI for chess engines, and Mittens' refusal to accept a draw in the endgame here reminds me of the wonderfully-named "Contempt Factor", where you artificially decrease the evaluation of a draw against opponents you expect to be vastly superior to (such as human players), in the hopes that your opponent will play sub-optimally and screw up the drawn game. Without a contempt factor, the AI is usually fairly willing to accept a draw if it thinks it's inevitable (imagining it playing against itself). I suspect that that's what Mittens is doing here, but I'm not certain of what's standard in these modern engines. For example, if Mittens is using an endgame tablebase, it knows for a fact that the game is absolutely drawn from a mile away. But I'm not sure if using endgame tablebases for human-facing bots is considered too rude. One subject that class never covered was how to make our chess engines fun to play against, rather than as strong as possible.
Mittens does use a endgame tablebase, but that's not relevant here. Tablebases are for perfect play. Mittens is playing against a human who doesn't have a memorized tablebase. If Mittens has a high contempt factor, it's going to extend the game, hoping for the human to blunder the rook.
shout out to you teaching me that loosing my queen could be my best game ever
Can we see your thoughts on something like a Breyer or Chigorin? A nice, classical Spanish with your commentary would be excellent. I really miss your non-dubious days
I wonder if Stockfish would have won if you had played only the top moves in the middlegame as well instead of going for interesting lines
My first day starting chess and I'm very confused. A machine kitten playing another robot and a bongcloud is involved. If a human, press 1. bots, don't read that!!!!
Can we see a dragon I know they’re mythical but for a kitten that travels through reality they must exist somewhere
Anna Rudolf got Mittens to give a 3 fold rep
Please do not take this "suggestion" seriously, but if you're going to continue using Stockfish against Mittens, it might be funny to see g4 or the Tumbleweed on Move 2 of Bird's Opening. -I just played both suggestions against Mittens without any engine help, and of course got obliterated (in single-digit moves during the g4 suggestion, but I did make it to Move 25 in the Tumbleweed).-
Earlier: Why is everyone so bloodthirsty against a fluffball
A few moments later after I played mittens…
Now: yes yes yes
f3 and kf2 is the real bongcloud
call the bondulance
I am from the future, and currently watching this video on youtube
"Im a toy cat that can't be eaten" -Eric Rosen, 2023
Best thumbnail ever!!
You shouldn’t have moved the king back . But gg
Lobster opening pls (g4 h3 b4 a3 on white)
Shoutout to Eric in the Past playing Mittens!
bong, james bong
krazy kat oppening
You should play the bird opening. Or the grob
Which move was a brilliant move by Mittens?
tmr on the news
grand master reported for cheating against bot
Isn't it called Bongcloud?
You misspelled "Bongcloud" in the title :)
Means Mittens is as strong as Stockwish with 1 blunder.
title : BONDCLOUD? hmm
I’m probably wrong but in all the Hikaru videos I’ve watched (many), 3. Ke1 was never played. In other words it’s not really a bomgcloud or bungloud or bumproud or etc.
these AI thumbnails are very eye catching and cute
Bomgcloud
This was a funny video. I laughed many times.
The plan behind Ke2 for me is to lose real quick to be 1st to the bong...
do the sodium attack, 1. Na3
But can you do bomgcloud?
Bro You are a GRANDMASTER why do you use stock fish to beat a Bot
Hes not a grandmaster. Also the bot is better than all gms
Use the Jerome!!!!!!
The gloves are off for Mittens!
Bro out here spammin tryna get noticed💀
Every chess UA-camr now has a hate-on for Mittens. And with good reason.
Eric, I know you mean no harm, but please consider no longer using A.I. generated imagery for your thumbnails, it is unethical, most A.I. generators use stolen photographs and paintings as a database, using it tarnishes your image
First view, first like... Pin pls?
📌
There ya go bud.
@@PushyPawn thx dud
Eric: [Plays Bongcloud]
Also Eric: "Wait, where was the mistake?"
bong cloud is a book move
@@EGS3586 but a mistake book move
I find it hilarious how the vid starts with Eric making a joke about how the commenter spelt bongcloud, only to spell it wrong himself in the video title
Maybe it's UA-cam thing against using the word bong in the title?
Before Eric fixes this, it says "Stockfish BONDCLOUDS Kitten"
@@tomflanagan878 I don't think so, Hikaru has a lot of bongcloud speedrun videos.
There's only one opening and it's mighty Mittens opening. Obey me the real Lord of kittens! 😺 I mean meow of course hehehe.
Yeah because he'd never do that intentionally, jokes don't exist
I don't think it's in the spirit of the Bongcloud to just move the king back the next move. You have to use the king!
There's no such opening that could defeat me Mittens the all mighty! 😼 I mean meow. Hehehe
Only one could defeat you... Your old brother Mittens! Fight me Mittens. I mean meow 😾
Dont cry now kitty, accept your defeat
@@EvilMittensOfficial It will only take one
skadoosh from my mighty paws to defeat you Evil Mittens! 😼 I meant meow meow. Hehehe
Wait, something sounds fishy...
@@MittensOfficialThe CCU (Chess Cinematic Universe) is about to get its “Endgame” of M3GAN vs. Mittens.
It'd be cool to see a minimalist run-- trying to see the lowest number of times you need Stockfish's help to win a game against Mittens.
Ben finegold already won against mittens without any help
@@elJas123 Nemo and Benjamin Bok did as well. And probably some others I'm unaware of
@@Jason-sq2up The developers were playing around with Mittens' level, so it was at some points far below its usual strength. That explains Nemo's win for sure and probably Ben's as well. Bok just played amazingly though
@@elJas123 oh sorry, meant would want to see from Rosen.
Jonathan Schrantz has beaten SF without help before, there are lines in the Stafford where you can convince it that its winning when you actually basically have a fortress. The same thing should be possible against Mittens
"I'm a cat toy that can't be eaten" - Eric Rosen 🤣 . Also , the prophecy must not be fulfilled probably refers to Eric not wanting to play a 150 move game . The game lasted 130 moves .
I would love to see some Evans Gambit! It would be very entertaining to see some attacking chess
"I am a cat toy that can't be eaten"
- Eric Rosen, International Master, 2023
You should try running the mosquito gambit against Mittens. How bad does the opening have to be for Mittens to crush Stockfish?
I'd like to see stockfish vs mittens with mittens up 4 tempi (Nf3, Ng1, Nf3, Ng1 from stockfish in the first four moves)
Very similar to the game I played against Mittens. I played the first 15 moves entirely on my own (no dodgy openings, just played it like a normal game) then let Stockfish take over my terrible position. Eval was about -3 for Mittens at this point, and SF got it back to 0.0
Then had about 100 moves of shuffling back and forth and trading some stuff in a completely drawn position, and eventually drew by repetition in KP v K endgame after 146 moves.
Tedious playing it out, but interesting. Seems like SF can overcome a 2.5 to 3 eval disadvantage to get a draw.
The Bongcloud Prophecy: the Fish of Stock shalt illuminate the path of salvation for humanity to thwart the Bot of Mitten.
Just shows you what a monster stockfish is.
let’s goo I’m so happy to see you actually played the bongcloud and it’s crazy to think that mittens had such a hard time converting
Actually nice example how crucial good endgames skills are, from lost position to draw just like that!
holy shit this thumbnail hahahahahah omg I haven't even watched the video yet. I clicked the link solely and exclusively because of that incredible thumbnail image.
Cloud. Bond Cloud.
I hate these and can't wait for the cat/bot fad to end.
I might be a better player than Eric, I have beaten Martin without any help and got the 3 crowns on him.
Yes Eric this is what we wanted to see
Bonk the damn kitten on his head of the Anger that people have after getting their soul being taken as they started the match thinking 1 elo
please play the Wayward queen attack
Bomgcloud > BONDCLOUD
Play e4 e5 Ba6 next.
Hey Eric! Just wanted to let you know that using MultiPV (having SF show multiple lines at once) causes it to lose elo. So if you want it at full strength, make it show only one line.
He does know that but he wants the option to pick interesting lines
11:36 Rh7 winning back a pawn?
Isn't the title supposed to be Bongcloud, not Bondcloud?
I don’t know the opening but a while back I saw penguin doing something like. Pawn G3. Knight h3 eventually to F2 the F pawn somehow pushed to F4. And the light square bishop got to G2.
I did this on my own computer, and I got Stockfish to win! Here's the pgn!
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Stockfish"]
[Black "Mittens"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e4 {Meow. I am become Mittens, the destroyer of kings. Hehehe.} 1... e5
{Meow. Fate has brought you here, but I live here through all time and space
forever. Hehehe.} 2. Ke2 Nf6 3. Nc3 d5 4. exd5 {*ominously* All chess players
eventually crumble under my mighty paws…I mean, meow $1 Hehehe.} 4... Nxd5 5. Ke1
Nc6 6. Bb5 Be7 7. Nf3 O-O 8. d3 Nxc3 9. bxc3 Qd6 10. Qe2 Be6 11. Ba4 e4 12. Qxe4
Bd5 13. Qf4 Qc5 14. Kf1 Bd6 15. Qd2 Rfe8 16. h4 a5 17. c4 Bxf3 18. gxf3 Re6 19.
Bb2 Nd4 20. Qg5 f5 21. Rd1 c6 22. Bxd4 Qxd4 23. Qxf5 Rae8 24. Qg4 Bf4 25. c3 Qe5
26. h5 g5 27. c5 Kg7 28. Bb3 Rf6 29. d4 Qf5 30. Qxf5 {The light that burns twice
as bright burns half as long, hehehe. You are not long for this game.} 30...
Rxf5 {*Knocks queen onto the floor* Your queen is gone. Hehehehe.} 31. Bc2 Rf7
32. Be4 a4 33. Ke2 Ra8 34. a3 Bc7 35. h6+ {I am a tiger and you are in the
jungle I call eternity. Hehehe.} 35... Kf8 36. Rb1 Bf4 37. Kd3 Ra7 38. Rb2 Ke8
39. Bg6 hxg6 40. h7 Rf8 41. h8=Q {Wow $1 Meow $1 You promoted $1 Hehehehehe.} 41...
Rxh8 {*Knocks queen onto the floor* Your queen is gone. Hehehehe.} 42. Rxh8+ {I
am a tiger and you are in the jungle I call eternity. Hehehe.} 42... Ke7 43.
Rh7+ Kd8 44. Re2 g4 45. fxg4 Bc7 46. Ree7 b5 47. Reg7 Kc8 48. d5 Kb8 49. d6 Kc8
50. dxc7 Rxc7 51. Rxc7+ {I am a tiger and you are in the jungle I call eternity.
Hehehe.} 51... Kd8 52. Ra7 Ke8 53. Ra8# {WHAT $4 $4 HOW $3 $3 $4 $2 YOU CHEA-I
mean…meow $1 Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe-} 1-0
I think it's against rules to unbongcloud later, you could move to other squares but not just back, especially in few moves
Agreed. I feel like it’s not in the spirit of the bongcloud to move the king back….
Ndeed, The Bondcloud opening 20 pages long book doesnt allow Ke1, always defend the F3 with a King
It basically makes it a case of 'Can Stockfish beat Mittens with two move odds and without casting rights?'. Interesting, but it would have been more fun to try and see if Stockfish could hold on with the king on e2 for longer.
It usually sounds like "minz" when you say "Mittens", so obviously you should play the Minzowitsch.
I would like to see you play the King David opening? It's like the bong cloud, but the king switches places with the queen on the 3rd move for white.
Hikaru needs to talk to the developers about updating the analysis tool. Bongcloud is never a blunder.
It's so dumb that I know this mittens campaign is just marketing, but I am clicking every video either way
Why does bro say “mins”
I’d love to see the crab opening against Mittens.
Oh yes. Bondcloud. Good spelling you got there.
saving the knight *knight instantly killed*
"Name is Bond. Cloud Bond"
my names cloud, bondcloud
engine vs engine... quite boring
As an FYI, you are severely nerfing Stockfish by having multi-PV on. Keep Stockfish settings to only have the top line.
eric said he wants to choose the top moves
comment: bomgcloud
this video title: bondcloud
actual opening: bongcloud
why did you play the bongcloud, he specifically asked for the bomgcloud. you haven't heard of it?
Do you mean Bongcloud?
playing Ke1 is like taking back your bomgcloud... ;-; stoner king wants to be on f2
Yoo shout out to past mittens and Eric. I'd say hi to stockfish but do fish even care about people? Probably not.
Greetings, Eric ! I am from the future and I am watching this video ! Happy new year !
So Mittens beats Stockfish but Hikaru beats Mittens and Magnus beats Hikaru and you beat Magnus so you are better then Stockfish.
Is that actually the bongcloud? Isn't the king supposed to switch places with the queen?
I love bomgclouds
Clearly engines need to be more human like in recognising hopelessly drawn positions and offering draws.
Its no fun when you pull out the king on the third move already
Stockfish: Top move don't play bongcloud
Did you see Ben beating Mittens?
why play 4. ke1 :(( ruins the video imo