He Walked Straight Into My INSANE STOCKFISH PREP

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  • Опубліковано 10 лют 2023
  • I challenged @eric-rosen to a chess game starting from the dreaded Wagon Gambit. Is he ready to handle this incredibly tricky opening?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 104

  • @Spamdrew128
    @Spamdrew128 Рік тому +567

    Prep so insane even he forgot it 😂

    • @jimmy2955
      @jimmy2955 Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @natanfurman2467
      @natanfurman2467 Рік тому +6

      Prep so insane it cleared sary

  • @loulasher
    @loulasher Рік тому +198

    "Imagine what Eric is saying right now"
    Eric: "gg".

    • @MrGedget
      @MrGedget Рік тому +13

      Totally what everybody would imagine Eric to say

  • @SumNutOnU2b
    @SumNutOnU2b Рік тому +193

    Well, that was definitely not what I expected. I think your "insane stockfish prep" might have been too much 'insane' and not enough 'stockfish'.

  • @MelbourneChessCoach
    @MelbourneChessCoach Рік тому +233

    Jonathan: "It's not the same if I can't hear the fear in his voice"
    Meanwhile Eric: "I think it's OK..."
    7:58

  • @HighlyCruciferous
    @HighlyCruciferous Рік тому +16

    Oh no my wagon !

  • @TheRedWon
    @TheRedWon Рік тому +10

    6:08 Oh no my Rosen

  • @josemari2758
    @josemari2758 Рік тому +83

    Funny how all that Stockfish preparation degenerated into a Napoleon-like game with both kings in the center and all the center of the board crowded with pieces, in which the best player checkmated first. You are always fun to watch, and one even learns something

  • @Rasta8889
    @Rasta8889 Рік тому +103

    No postgame analysis with Eric?

    • @mymyscellany
      @mymyscellany Рік тому +26

      I was interested in what the evaluation was

    • @grim_blazer9120
      @grim_blazer9120 Рік тому +13

      Maybe he could make a follow up video with it

    • @nigglewiggle4214
      @nigglewiggle4214 Рік тому +62

      jonathan was so upset by this loss he has not been returning Eric's calls ever since. jonathan even revealed on stream that he's thrown out his queen size full color print Eric Rosen bed sheets. truly a tragic rift between two of the best UA-cam chess creators. i hope they reunite with an analysis soon ❤

    • @louisedgewick107
      @louisedgewick107 Рік тому

      @@nigglewiggle4214lol

    • @badgoogle9938
      @badgoogle9938 Рік тому +4

      looking at lichess, they played a few more games

  • @Counttom90
    @Counttom90 Рік тому +51

    after 11. Nf3, it doesn't look like there's a magic stockfish line and Eric is pretty much out of the woods

    • @niloneto1608
      @niloneto1608 Рік тому +3

      Basically, yes. Best is probably 11...cxd6 according to Stockfish.

    • @zwischendurundmoll3968
      @zwischendurundmoll3968 Рік тому +1

      the magic of the line is that black is down 3 pawns but its equal, but if your prep ends there its arguably easier to play for white, if not white could be in some serious trouble

    • @niloneto1608
      @niloneto1608 Рік тому

      @@zwischendurundmoll3968 Not really equal. White is always slightly better in all lines. Stockfish evaluates those as around 0.8 tô 1.5

    • @zwischendurundmoll3968
      @zwischendurundmoll3968 Рік тому

      @@niloneto1608 slightly better

  • @bikkel77
    @bikkel77 Рік тому +20

    That’s exactly how I always go down when playing a weird gambit 😂

  • @l4te4oot91
    @l4te4oot91 Рік тому +17

    When Jonathan has the maniacle giggle you know it’s gonna be spicy

  • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
    @ItIsYouAreNotYour Рік тому +18

    What!? It's over!? I was just starting to enjoy it, damn.

    • @TheWolfnman
      @TheWolfnman Рік тому +5

      thats what she said

    • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
      @ItIsYouAreNotYour Рік тому

      @@TheWolfnman That's what dad said. Never got it, until I found out my real dad is actually the milk man.

  • @okamisansempai557
    @okamisansempai557 Рік тому +2

    Great game, nice start

  • @TheFluke32
    @TheFluke32 Рік тому +20

    That was one complicated opening. Was thinking that if I was black in the position at around 5:20, I would have attacked the white queen with Nb6. After that, I have no idea. It just felt that was only way to keep the board open and in a delicate balance of keeping it under control

    • @dennismuller1141
      @dennismuller1141 Рік тому

      looks like Nb6 blunders the bishop

    • @TheFluke32
      @TheFluke32 Рік тому

      Knight on e4 covers the Bishop on c5, if that is what's you thought was going to be lost.

    • @dennismuller1141
      @dennismuller1141 Рік тому

      @@TheFluke32 you're right, I didn't see that

  • @alexeiz
    @alexeiz Рік тому +2

    Qf6 was the losing move because it's of no immediate threat to white and Nxc7+ followed by Nxa8 becomes possible. Without Qf6, Nxc7 followed by Nxa8 is not possible because of Qa5+.

  • @michaelkrailo5725
    @michaelkrailo5725 Рік тому +10

    Is there any way we can get a redo on this because I have no idea what the wagon gambit is although I see Eric past up the the forbidden fruit that was offered. I'm not so sure Eric would have faired so well had he not been told anything about the game in advance. But I understand that certain moves must be made in the beginning to make it all work. In any case, we need a follow up video for this gambit.

    • @mckenziearchibald4510
      @mckenziearchibald4510 Рік тому +1

      Herrs jonathkns original video, going through the theory. He has a few more games on the second channel (i think)
      ua-cam.com/video/Ckr3RsQYTj4/v-deo.html
      Edit: im not one of those wack youtube bots

    • @buttecake
      @buttecake Рік тому

      ​@@mckenziearchibald4510 that's exactly what a whack UA-cam bot would say

    • @michaelkrailo5725
      @michaelkrailo5725 Рік тому

      @@mckenziearchibald4510 I did find that video and now it makes more sense. Thanks.

  • @louisparry-mills9132
    @louisparry-mills9132 Рік тому +4

    Where is the postgame ? What went wrong ? Did you have more ideas you coulda remembered

    • @irjake
      @irjake Рік тому +2

      Yeah, what's the right way to play it? What was the prep you forgot? Don't leave us hanging!

  • @SkateFallen1424
    @SkateFallen1424 Рік тому +3

    reminds me of every time I try some new exotic gambit. "oh shit, what now?" lol

  • @joeb4142
    @joeb4142 Рік тому +1

    Another addition to the Eric Rosen mythology.

  • @thalasyus
    @thalasyus Рік тому

    I love these two guys so much

  • @victorfinberg8595
    @victorfinberg8595 Рік тому +3

    Another dubious gambit crushed by a champion of dubious gambits.

  • @yosefcohen483
    @yosefcohen483 Рік тому +1

    Very professional - you check the gambit with a Gambit Master.

  • @Siderite
    @Siderite Рік тому

    That evil laughter, man!

  • @avasti561
    @avasti561 Рік тому +1

    The laughs of Jonathan were scary

  • @MrTheDif
    @MrTheDif Рік тому

    What about 8 ... b4? It keeps the dark squared bishop from attacking the queen.

  • @MrArtless1
    @MrArtless1 Рік тому +2

    ...and refuted it

  • @walkerb392
    @walkerb392 6 місяців тому

    Oh John, what a blunder on your last move...
    U could & should've won the game..!

  • @syoudipta
    @syoudipta Рік тому +4

    "I've so much time to think!"
    "Feel free to take all of it"!

  • @Garrickk100
    @Garrickk100 Рік тому +6

    “Feel free to take all of it” and leaves chat. damn man feels bad

  • @waiterjoesh8859
    @waiterjoesh8859 Рік тому +5

    I was hoping for more out of this crazy line ngl

  • @Collin0
    @Collin0 Рік тому +8

    rosen leaving the call on accident lol

  • @stuvius
    @stuvius Рік тому

    "Where did my friend go" was so sad 😅

  • @johnconrardy8486
    @johnconrardy8486 Рік тому +8

    my two favorite chess players

  • @ArisianFusion
    @ArisianFusion Рік тому +3

    Great video. Thank you for showing this cool trappy gambit, but I think you should focus more on solving mate in one problems!! Just sayin...

  • @tinygiant3495
    @tinygiant3495 Рік тому

    11. Qf6 is a huge blunder according to Stockfish. 12. Nxc7+ and the evaluation for white is +7.

    • @curtisholsinger6023
      @curtisholsinger6023 Рік тому

      Noticed that too. Once Eric went Nf3, the value of Qf6 went away.

  • @TeaAndCreampie
    @TeaAndCreampie Рік тому

    Ouch. At least it was interesting chess!

  • @davidbatchelder85
    @davidbatchelder85 Рік тому

    Queen c2 would take care of this aspect

  • @samuelfelton6158
    @samuelfelton6158 Рік тому

    Super villain laugh

  • @misterunknown8923
    @misterunknown8923 Рік тому

    Back to the beaver gambit it is 😅

  • @willmchess6145
    @willmchess6145 Рік тому

    Wagon gambit? Feels like there's an opening for every animal or object lmao. Next you'll be playing the Chimpanzee Defense or maybe the Lawnchair Gambit.

  • @justin57153
    @justin57153 Рік тому

    lol natural moves from white result in like, +7.

  • @lukevandoren7144
    @lukevandoren7144 Рік тому

    why didn't he take c7 pawn w the night forking the King and Rook?

    • @tgwnn
      @tgwnn Рік тому +1

      Kf8 and Qa5+ looks devastating

  • @remcovanhartevelt588
    @remcovanhartevelt588 10 місяців тому

    Nice nice

  • @davidrobertson1980
    @davidrobertson1980 Рік тому

    OUCH!

  • @rayscheelhaase4733
    @rayscheelhaase4733 Рік тому

    Pin the knight to the queen with ur bishop? I think that's the idea you forgot.

  • @TannerWA
    @TannerWA Рік тому +1

    Thumbnail’s missing the ‘r’ in your last name btw!

  • @mrlucasftw42
    @mrlucasftw42 Рік тому

    Ratings point gambit

  • @misterr3653
    @misterr3653 Рік тому

    Sad ending

  • @originaljungle
    @originaljungle Рік тому

    the gambit brothers

  • @notmeagain5647
    @notmeagain5647 Рік тому +2

    why not Qd5 instead of Q4d on move 7

    • @alexrandall8557
      @alexrandall8557 Рік тому +7

      Bb4+ is extremely strong. Stockfish gives it -3

    • @amaryllis0
      @amaryllis0 Рік тому +7

      Possibly just because it was the intuitive/obvious move. If you're facing an unknown gambit, you usually don't want to play into it. You'd rather play a slightly worse but safer move than a seemingly better but much sharper move

  • @MSMNBC
    @MSMNBC Рік тому

    First move Qd5

  • @naethan.6267
    @naethan.6267 Рік тому +1

    hahaha that's a nice vid

  • @henriksoderstrom6815
    @henriksoderstrom6815 Рік тому

    Couldn't black have castled 0-0 instead of Qxg2 which got him mated?

  • @frozencloud17
    @frozencloud17 Рік тому

    Jonathan forgot the course about king safety.

  • @openheart6113
    @openheart6113 Рік тому +1

    White could have taken your rook with a king fork.

    • @mintos2693
      @mintos2693 Рік тому +1

      yeah he was gambiting it lol

    • @TVGUY333
      @TVGUY333 Рік тому +1

      Yes! I was wondering when Eric would see it but he didn't. I think he was a little psyched out or intimidated as he said when the 'call' was lost.

    • @TVGUY333
      @TVGUY333 Рік тому

      Never mind. LOL, Eric won anyway and I didn't see it coming. Gotta love him.

    • @sollertia_
      @sollertia_ Рік тому +1

      Taking that pawn before the queen moved would've been a blunder because of Qa5+. After Qf6, Eric realizes that he can take the pawn, but since he's already up material there's no point winning unrelevant pieces when his only risk comes from opposing tempo

    • @sollertia_
      @sollertia_ Рік тому +2

      @@TVGUY333 he did see it and even talked about it live lol

  • @richardv.582
    @richardv.582 Рік тому

    Lol

  • @ivanljilja9198
    @ivanljilja9198 Рік тому +6

    Well this is embarrassing. I would reconsider all my life after this. Not because he lost , because of attitude how he lost. Made us have so big expectations and then failed miserably.

  • @12factortest
    @12factortest Рік тому +1

    I'm sad now.

  • @chesskw
    @chesskw Рік тому

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @charlesgaskell5899
    @charlesgaskell5899 Рік тому

    Oops...

  • @mkg40287
    @mkg40287 Рік тому

    lol

  • @phillipmiodowski2875
    @phillipmiodowski2875 Рік тому +2

    Just some feedback - Eric dropping off and you continuing to talk about it was annoying.

    • @MATT-qu7pl
      @MATT-qu7pl 11 місяців тому +1

      Your comment is annoying

  • @grim_blazer9120
    @grim_blazer9120 Рік тому +5

    Day 48 of asking for a video on my funny English lines