Civilization V Leader | Enrico Dandolo of Venice
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2013
- Enrico Dandolo is today considered one of the greatest Venetian Doges. He took control of a mercantile power in decline, riven by corruption and inefficiency, challenged by great and small powers across the region. Trade had declined, and its military was moribund. By his death, he had ended all outside threats to Venice's influence, and made it the dominant power in Mediterranean trade again. Historians have referred to Dandolo as the "founder of the Venetian colonial empire." Venice itself would be prosperous, stable and secure for the next century.
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Venice plays so differently from every other civ in the game. The reason they can't settle or annex cities is because historically speaking they never did either of those things. They were a city-state, not an empire. A very wealthy and powerful city-state, though.
Welp, much things that you say is true but speaking for Venice aggression that guy (Enrico Dandolo) conquered important cities of Balkans aand city of the cities Constantinople with his crusader army.
What he meant is that you can’t annex cities.. you can still loot them, or make them puppet states.
a me pare de sentire un nono che ciacoła in giro par Vicensa
spot on acting, really
fun fact: dandolo, in Venetian and Italian, means "giving it", I let you guess what that "it" refers to
Wow.
Very Doge
Much Renaissance.
Such Italy.
Wow
Very overused meme
Much Cancer
Such Doge
Wow.
No fun allowed
Such hate
Very sore hindquarters.
Tekuru Fuck off, weeaboo.
@@2x2leax Shut up you uncultured swine.
@@Tekuru_ 7 years later the meme still lives :)
This video is A+. It showed me exactly what i wanted, short & sweet. It couldn't be executed better.
All other civs: SETTLE EVERYWHERE AROUND VENICE!
Benissimo!
Trading intensifies
Proto-Capitalism at its finest form
I'm so rich!
-Enrico Dandolo.
Also Proto-Industrialism. Venetians built the first ever assembly lines to mass produce ships.
@@ElArto95 and proto-mafia
Actually this is actually the modern Venetian dialect of Italian, rather than the formal Venetian language that was used as the standard literary language in the republic as well as the Central Mediterranean. It is mostly the grammar that makes this definitely Venetian Italian dialect rather the Venetian language.
I am Venetian. The sentences the Doge utters in the video are in classical Venetian language.
It's a Tuscanized form of Venetian, quite typical for the 15th or 17th century Venitian elite, but probably quite anachronistic for the 12th/13th. But anything from that period would be a daring reconstruction.
I’m Venetian and I love that they dubbed him in our language and not in Italian or something
This guy is always so nice to me in my games! :D
I wouldn't say that Dandolo "took control of a mercantile power in decline, riven by corruption and inefficiency" with "declined" trade ad "moribund" military. Republic of Venice was rather going on in its constant and long rising, that with Dandolo had a drastic acceleration, transforming itself from a regional power to the most important power of Mediterranean by conquering Costantinople and acquiring a quarter and half of the Bizantine Empire. So, indeed, he was the founder of Venetian Maritime Empire. Thanks to it, after the long war with the Republic of Genoa for the control of Mediterrean (XIII-XIV century) and the expansion in Northern Italy (XV century), at the beginning of XVI century Venice became one of the most important world powers. And it was in that moment that its slow and magnificent decline started, when the biggest Europeans countries (France, Spain, Holy Roman Empire, plus Hungary, the Pope and most of Italian states) joined forces in the "Cambrai League" to definitely stop Venice. Despite that, Venice survived, maintaining its empire and in 1571 was at the guide of Holy League giving more than half of the Christian fleet (109 galleys and 6 new galleasses) in the famous and victorious battle of Lepanto against Turkish Empire, continuing then to guard and defend the South-Eastern border of Europe until 1797.
i was surprissed as a spanish speaker to be able to understand most of his dialogue.
I like how they captured his blindness.
Hands down my favorite civ of the whole series. I love buying my way out of every problem with all the gold those extra little camels and boats bring back to me.
Impressive how venetian looks like modern portuguese. By example, the last Doge's sentence in portuguese is: Essa é uma proposta ridícula.
"Ea xe na proposta ridicoa"
yeah close enough.
too bad this is modern venetian dialect, not the original language..
Venetian Language, we speak it here in Brazil yet! El ze strabel co' che se sente descórar nte ła nostra Łengua Veneta! Strucon!
Lines:
Attacked: You have revealed your purposes too early, my friend! (Gavé svelà i vostri propoxiti masa presto, amigo mio!)
Declares War: When you will be gone, Sir, there will be more for me! (Co non ghe saré più vialtri, sior, ghe ne sarà più per mi!)
Defeated: A wrong calculation, on my part. (Un conto sbalià, da parte mia.)
[Note: In Italy this phrase is often used when people's plans don't go according to what they calculated.]
Hate Hello: You! What do you want? (Vu! Cosa voé?)
[Note: "Cosa voeu?" is the correct Venetian translation.]
Hate Let's Hear It 01: Speak! (Parlé!)
Hate Let's Hear It 02: You again? (Danovo vu?)
Hate Let's Hear It 03: What do you want? (Cosa vòi?)
[Note: "Cosa vutu?" is the correct Venetian translation.]
Hate No 01: What? (Cosa?)
Hate No 02: Absolutely not! (Asolutamente no!)
Hate No 03: That is a ridiculous proposal! (Ea xe na proposta ridicoea!)
Hate Yes 01: So be it... (Così sia...)
Hate Yes 02: If I must... (Se devo...)
Hate Yes 03: If you insist... (Se insiste...)
Intro: Welcome to Venice. I am Doge Enrico Dandolo. (Benvenùo a Venesia. So'l Doge Enrico Dandolo.)
Neutral Hello: Greetings. (Saluti.)
Neutral Let's Hear It 01: Go ahead. (Venì vanti.)
[Note: "Venié vanti" is the correct Venetian translation.]
Neutral Let's Hear It 02: Continue. (Andé vanti.)
Neutral Let's Hear It 03: Yes? (Si?)
Neutral No 01: No. (No.)
Neutral No 02: Of course, not. (De sicuro, no.)
Neutral No 03: We decline. (Declinemo.)
Neutral Yes 01: Very well. (Benìsimo.)
Neutral Yes 02: All right! (Va ben!)
Neutral Yes 03: Sure. (De sicuro.)
Peaceful: I like to see my schemes turn true! (Me piaxe veder i mé schèmi realixarse!)
Request: This offer won't be valid for a lot of time, think about it. Sta offerta non sarà valida per tanto tempo, penseghe.)
In łengua veneta. Stra bel! The words he speaks, original venetian language. Our home language. That they call "dialect"now.
Not venetian, he didn't call God a "dog" not even once in one minute. Unrealistic.
Yet Dandolo is himself a dirty dog.
Oh, I'm glad that he's not speaking in modern italian, historically talking, it's more correct, and by the way, Venetian is almost the same as italian, it doesn't change much. I'm in love of this background *_* . They did a great Job, now i will be able to play my favourite civilisation! THX firaxis, and thanks to you Daniel. Meraviglioso, come sempre, Bravo Chehr! ... ;)
Apparently There Isn’t A Lot Known About Him, Apart from That He was Part of the 4th Crusade and That He was the Longest to Live in the Medieval Times (1107-1205) (aged 98) However, There’s No Info About His Death or Anything Like That
Well met, sir! I've yet to visit your lands but I shall soon enough. :)
Ecco!! era quel "massa " che non riuscivo a tradurre,GRAZIE! :)
"Ea xe na proposta ridicoea"
It isn't Venetian slang at all, he is speaking an entirely separate language called Venetian. It still exists in Italy but has been largely displaced by Italian. However, it is accurate for him to be speaking it because it would've been the majority language in the area at the time. Anyway, I imagine most Venetian slang is a result of intermixing between the languages, so for some "slang" to be present isn't surprising.
muito bacana
Not enough blasphemy in his speaking, not realistic :D
He's OLD Italy, city-states-that-hate-one-another Italy. Speak softly. Carry a big stick, some ten to fifteen pouches of poison and know each bone of each skeleton each person has in each closet. He doesn't curse. He doesn't have to. ;)
When you’re in a (WORST FUCKING CIV ) competition and your competition is Venice. 👁️ 👄 👁️
Well, we do speak italian officially, but we have a side-language who changes for each region, but we speak italian most of the time :).... obviously locals idioms still have a strong presence, it's undenyable but the official language is and remains Italian and evryone speaks it....the trouble for strangers is that we often alternate both of them and they have a hard time comprehending what we say even if they know italian ^_^
Ma ti fa sul serio??? vara che in Veneto xe soeo gli italioti che ciacoea in italian...in Veneto se ciacoea e sescrive in lengua Veneta.....
Am I the only one who cam picture a certain white-garbed phantom leaping across the roofs and buildings behind the Doge?
Te se un Mona! Che ghera e ghera!
Venetian is a own language, not a dialect of italian. It is from another group of the Romance, the Gallo-Romance, unlike Italian which is Western Romance.
+Andreas Martonosy I agree. Venetian, Neapolitan, Lombard... aren't dialect of Italian. They were speaken before Italian was created. Italian was born as a language for literature. It's based on the Tuscan language. Even writers in XVI century spoke their regional language.
When Italy was formed, only the 15% of the "Italians" could understand Italian. The problem is that our languages aren't recognized as official languages.
This is idiotic
Venician come directly from latin from the venedii that fleed the venet coast to save thamself from barbaric invasion and pillages in later Roman Empire, venicians considerered thamself as romans and spoke standard latin as they lived in the Capital provincia of Italia and were declared Roman citizens already at the time of the republic.
The dissimilarities between standard italian and venician are due to the Seafaring way of Life of the venicians that made theirs somewhat of a Cosmopolitan idiom and that the language developed from latin differently from how it had in other places as similarly to how It went for any other dialect.
as if you knew anything of italian linguistics you would know that none of us really spoke italian,
we spoke the ancestors of what we today call dialects, regional idioms like tuscan flourentine, Neapolitan, genoese, marchigian, piedmontese, savoiard and so fourth and so on various languages that often had Little to do with the others apart being spawn (or partially spawn for some southern or greek influenced ones ) from latin, it was only thank to a long journey of compared linguistics and literature that standard italian was created and took root as similarly to German it's a built leanguage.
All this to say
Please mind your own business
Saluti da Venezia!
Not enough dog-god!!!
Next CIV we want Marghera’s accent
GREAT. MANY THANKS TO THE AUTHOR.
Actually, I can tell you that right now more than 65% of people in the region of Veneto still speak Venetian more than italian while spending time in the family. And around 40% at work. We are fighting to teach Venetian at school and we are fighting for the independence of Veneto. And btw Venetian is latin + venetico :-)
Lmao and what variant of Venetian are you willing to teach, the one of Venice? Good luck making that sink in Verona, Vicenza, Padova, Belluno, Treviso and Rovigo 🤗
sono italiano pure io e vivo in emilia quindi so che vuoi dire, ma a parte le ultima frase quella prima di amico mio che penso di aver interpretato almeno a metà, è praticamente lo stesso, le varietà ladine come il veneziano cambiano poco dall'italiano, è un dato di fatto che un parlante italiano non ladino riesca a comprendere buona parte del discorso pur non conoscendo il veneziano.
I'd love to learn Venetian.
look up: "Germano Mosconi"
Parlando nostra lengua mare...la lengua veneta
As an italian, this is soo hilarious.
Very good venetian slang (my mother its from Venice)
lel heez naemd affder uh maymay.
i dont speak Venetian or Italian but at least i understand what he says.
not exactly... There are some changes, for example, i don't understand the last thing he say (i am italian, but i live in emilia romagna region) the popoular slanbs here can chance even in near cityes (dunno if i wrote correctly)
In spanish or portuguese the last one is the most understandable....
Civ VI, no Enrico Dandolo, no buy.
I didn't buy civ 6 for many reasons. One of them being that they scraped the beautiful art style from 5 in favor of a more cartoon looking approach. The leaders in 6 don't even appear in unique settings anymore. To this day I'm still playing 5, lol.
Mmm, you asked if in the 13th C. in Venice talks this slang? Actually i'm not sure but Italian born from Tuscany slang (Dante Alighieri for example) so each italian region develop its own slang,
i think they speak so, more or less.
Sorry for terrible english...... :(
Hahahaah best avatar evah
sei sicuro?
un altro mio amico veneziano mi ha tradotto diversamente come
"hai rivelato i tuoi propositi, ci vediamo presto amico mio"
This language is very similar to Portuguese
Dice: "g'avè svelà i vostri propositi, massa presto amigo mio."
Praticamente dice: "avete svelato le vostre intenzioni, ci vediamo molto presto, amico mio."
Da notare l'accuratezza del doppiatore nel mangiarsi le L, "ridicoea" e "sveà", tipico di Venezia, in alcune province viene invece pronunciata.
However, is it appropriate for a 13th Century Doge? If it's just accent, then it's ok, I guess. If it's downright "slang", well...
Not that I care, it's just curiosity.
eh ciò can dal porco!
🅱️ENICE
ecco grazie, hai aiutato un povero romagnolo che di veneto non capisce una mazza, il massimo a cui ero arrivato nell'ultima frase era quel "massa presto amigo mio" che avevo però male interpretato pure io :P
If Enrico is close to me I take him out as fast as I can, because he can buy my city states even when they're my allies.
No!! Don't take my money!!
ahahaha non ci credo! c'è anche il leader veneziano!! il miglior gioco di sempre!
REMEMBER CONSTANTINOPLE 1204
יִמַּח שְׁמוֹ וְזִכְרוֹ
Thank you based Enrico for sacking Constantinople
Monies
Monies
Monies r good
Gib monies
Venice best Italy remove Rome
Gib monies
No, no, risentendolo meglio vuole intendere: "avete svelato le vostre intenzioni molto presto, amico mio".
Sorry :(
May His name and memory be obliterated.
Fun fact: he is blind in the game
bring back 2 civ 6
Sounds very similar to spanish hmmm
No venetian lenguage.
was he a good guy
That's a little difficult to say.
He did good things
But he also did things that were pretty controversial.
yeah
@Alvi Syahri thats good tho
Venetian = Latin + Venetic (wikipedia: Venetic_language). Absolutely no relations with italian. The first printed math book in the world was printed in Treviso around 14° century and it was written in venetian. ( wikipedia: Treviso_Arithmetic )
False the venedii spoke standard Latin and called themself Romans as they were part of the Roman Capital province as citizens from the republic, for example, Livy was from Padua
Moreover, you should know that Italian is a Constructed language and none of us spoke Italian and Venetian had a great part in laying the foundation of the language With compared linguistics and literature as many others from many other States.
so calling any regional Italian culture un-Italian is idiotic we all were spawn from Latin and then developed differently moron!
Maledizione a te e tutti voi storici improvvisati
@@eccoeco3454 E' più che vero il fatto che all'inizio i Veneti si chiamavano fra loro Romani per la loro eredità culturale, ma comunque le altre regioni subirono più volte culture straniere, mentre i veneti nel tempo ne han sviluppata una tutta loro. Dire che l'italiano è una lingua artificiale fortemente influenzata dalle lingue italiche è giusto, dire che le culture italiche son simili è una porcata.
@@WFASPigeonGang sì sì certo continua a raccontarlo
The man responsible for The roman empires destruktion
Aron Johansson last time I checked those were the Ottomans lmao
@@persepoli96 *fourth crusade intensifies*
Big facts
@@ok6229 they were Romans, keep seething catholicuck
@@ok6229 you will never be Roman Visigoth larper
Speak Itarian prease.
Venetian is a own language, not a dialect of italian. It is from another group of the Romance, the Gallo-Romance, unlike Italian which is Western Romance.
Sorry, but Venetian is an Romance language, not an Gallo-Romance one. "Venetus est pulcherrimus et doctissimus omnium sermo, in quo redolet tota linguae Grecae maiestas!
Der Doxe Not related to Greek. Look it up, it's Gallo-Romance
I'm not saying it's Greek, god dang it. You have to look it up. Venetian is a Romance Language, not Gallo-Romance. it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_veneta
Der Doxe because you gave me a link in italian, I'll presume you are Italian. Look on the English article of Wikipedia.
I'm half Austrian, even in english wikipedia it says "Typologically, Venetian has little in common with the Gallo-Italic languages of northwestern Italy, but shows some affinity to nearby Istriot." So it's not an Gallo-Romance one, it came from Vulgar like Italian.