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  • @chrisemens4022
    @chrisemens4022 Рік тому +390

    Can you elaborate on the secret source for sheet goods that are “flat and cheap”?

    • @markglabinski3016
      @markglabinski3016 Рік тому +21

      I’m still searching for that as well. I’ll let you know if I find it!

    • @JohnClark-tt2bl
      @JohnClark-tt2bl Рік тому +14

      At this point it might as well be like the old speakeasys were. Gotta know somebody and have the password.

    • @antoniolopes8776
      @antoniolopes8776 Рік тому +5

      Not in this part of the world (Portugal).LOL

    • @AnthonyStabler
      @AnthonyStabler Рік тому +15

      I found damaged flat hollow core doors are discounted at Home Depot. Glue a sheet of 1/2 inch MDF or plywood to them. They make agreat assembly table or portable work surface. They get beat up just glue on a new piece. Almost as good as a torsion box.

    • @chrisemens4022
      @chrisemens4022 Рік тому +1

      @@AnthonyStabler great idea though I really want to build some cabinets and I don’t think that’s going to cut it. :)

  • @Purdue_Pharma
    @Purdue_Pharma Рік тому +57

    I’ve been using a 3/4” sheet of melamine as the top layer of my assembly table. Wood glue won’t stick to it and it’s easy to scrape up once it’s dried.

    • @GrantOakes
      @GrantOakes Рік тому +5

      I use an 1/8" or 3/16" tempered masonite thats screwed down. If you mess it up, just unscrew it and put down a new one.

    • @EdvardRickard
      @EdvardRickard 9 місяців тому +3

      To me, that's the best way.

    • @joseph7105
      @joseph7105 6 місяців тому

      Same. When it gets destroyed just replace it with a new $30 sheet of melamine. When I'm using the track saw I just drop 1" foam sheet on there

  • @HBSuccess
    @HBSuccess Рік тому +22

    I used to work in a high volume laminate cabinet shop. The *very best* way to hold contact cemented pieces apart while positioning is a clean round extension cord. You lay it back and forth over the substrate maybe 6” apart…the set the laminate on top of the cord. When ready to join start pulling the cord out as you press down. Big sheets use 2 cords and work from the middle out. This works 10x better than sticks, or slip sheets, or anything else I have ever used. I told Izzy Swan about it yrs ago - he has a video showing it or at least used to.

    • @BarrySumpter
      @BarrySumpter Рік тому

      Too smart. Thanks for sharing that. Champion

    • @davidduffy6555
      @davidduffy6555 Рік тому +1

      I've been doing laminate for 40 yrs the best thing about using cords is you can do any shape or size. dowels or blinds work ok but sometimes they are a pain to use.

  • @garyblack8717
    @garyblack8717 Рік тому +23

    "must be flat and cheap" uses $1000 worth of plywood

    • @garyblack8717
      @garyblack8717 Рік тому +2

      @@GarageMuzik I don't know where you live (and it's been a couple years) but you couldn't get construction grade for $35 a sheet, and that's neither particularly flat or AT ALL smooth. I'd be happy to see furniture grade plywood that cheap though...

  • @mooser321
    @mooser321 7 місяців тому +8

    That plastic bit is genius. I'll def be adding that to my book of tricks.

  • @barrychristian4050
    @barrychristian4050 7 місяців тому +5

    Top tip for franks top tip fir the plastic, fold one end back on itself, you can then pull the plastic back as you go rubbing down the laminate rather than lifting the laminate up works a treat and i learnt it from a bloke called Pete 👍

    • @brett6314
      @brett6314 7 місяців тому

      I've been really looking at doing my own laminate for a decent sized bar. Never tried it but that tip sounds like a gamebreaker

  • @chrisanthony579
    @chrisanthony579 9 місяців тому +7

    Just a tip...use white Plam. Doubles as an "erase board" I have measurements and notes written all over my white assembly/out-feed table. Erases with DA or lacquer thinner

    • @VC-Toronto
      @VC-Toronto 7 місяців тому +1

      Grab some "dry erase" markers. Rubs off easily with a finger. (not the most durable, so be careful to not inadvertently rub off something important)

  • @GrantOakes
    @GrantOakes Рік тому +15

    I use a long (50') extension cord, cleaned and placed on the top of the surface in a back and forth S pattern. I then start at on end and press the laminate down, roll it firmly, and then begin the pull the cord out, 1 S at a time.

  • @alanreynolds2287
    @alanreynolds2287 7 місяців тому +1

    I have been doing laminate for YEARS - I've NEVER seen this technique before! BRILLIANT!

  • @jessseymour9246
    @jessseymour9246 7 місяців тому +1

    I used the plastic trick whenever I was bringing two sheets of laminate together on a single plane because it is much easier to align. The first time I did it I transitioned to just using that method for laminating. That is until I noticed I was getting bubbles more often as air was prone to getting trapped. Not a difficult fix but was annoying enough I switched back to using dowls for the majority of my lamination. I only use the plastic where alignment is a higher priority. Definitely a handy trick to have in my holster though.

  • @17penobscot
    @17penobscot Рік тому +6

    Come on Marc, your killin me. I go to all the trouble of building’ your “torsion box” assembly table and now your shortcut in me.

    • @ThekiBoran
      @ThekiBoran Рік тому

      What?

    • @17penobscot
      @17penobscot 9 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@ThekiBoranway back Marc did a video on a proper torsion box assembly table top, very impressive and quite involved process.

  • @leigheverett4491
    @leigheverett4491 6 місяців тому +1

    I advise filling the screw holes before laminating or over time you will see their presence on the surface if not straight away.

  • @martinoamello3017
    @martinoamello3017 Рік тому +69

    I need to water my shop and hope it grows a bit wider and longer. Short of that happening I'll probably make a slightly smaller table..

    • @anwarfaraz5171
      @anwarfaraz5171 Рік тому

      00

    • @miles11we
      @miles11we Рік тому +3

      I had a ford ranger and despite all the leaks the bed topper had, never grew an inch. So disappointing

    • @martinoamello3017
      @martinoamello3017 Рік тому +1

      @@miles11we did you fertilize it? I mulched the bed of my f150..Took a few days to empty it out into the yard..

    • @miles11we
      @miles11we Рік тому +1

      @@martinoamello3017 shit I didn't even think of that at the time, I'll give it a shot next time

  • @gofgwoodworking
    @gofgwoodworking Рік тому +6

    Just a foot note, when you are trimming the edge of the Formica, keep an eye on the bearing on the router bit. It tends to collect the contact adhesive and will keep it from spinning freely. Also use a good file to flush the edge after you run the router.

  • @PintuMahakul
    @PintuMahakul 6 місяців тому

    👍 An excellent bigger table made. Thank you very much for sharing.

  • @ambrosevonerkel5828
    @ambrosevonerkel5828 6 місяців тому

    I’ll take the plastic sheet and trial it myself. However the choice of top, “cheapest material” not so much, it’s warped. You can see it in the trimming procedure

  • @HarrisonFord11
    @HarrisonFord11 Рік тому

    I’ll standby for the video. Although I’m still standing by for the dining table build you teased awhile ago. Haha. Looking forward to both Marc.

  • @rayleblanc7209
    @rayleblanc7209 7 місяців тому

    I've laid miles of laminate in my time. I pull a long extension cord through a rag and loop it in waves. Lay the laminate on top of the cord to get your alignment and start at one end pulling the cord out as you press it down. Guaranty bubble free. Use particle core not plywood as a substrate. Plywood is susceptible to delamination and will telegraph the grain. When using waterborne contact take your fingernail and scratch the surface (outside the area being glued) If it skins up like pealing a sunburn , it's not ready yet. Get down at eye level and look across each glued surface and look for any particles that may have been picked up. Nothing worse then getting a bubble from a tiny wood particle.

  • @danashay
    @danashay 8 місяців тому

    Beautiful work, very well played!

  • @Xandara
    @Xandara Рік тому +3

    That looks so good! The plastic trick seems like it worked like [chef's kiss]!

  • @seanrodgers7327
    @seanrodgers7327 Рік тому +4

    Just used Formica on my miter station and have an extra sheet for an assembly table. Excited to see the video

  • @64seweryn
    @64seweryn 7 місяців тому

    That's nicer than many people's dining tables

  • @stevequincey1217
    @stevequincey1217 Рік тому +1

    Awesome technique. I did the same thing, and it came out amazing! Love the look of flat black formika set against the dense plywood. Added some dog holes and👌🏽

  • @cholulahotsauce6166
    @cholulahotsauce6166 8 місяців тому

    Very fine work!

  • @smcclure3545
    @smcclure3545 6 місяців тому

    should you seal the bottom to prevent bowing from uneven exposure to humidity, or is there enough plywood so that you don't need to worry about that?

  • @Ibaneddie76
    @Ibaneddie76 Рік тому

    The most important tool in any shop!

  • @17penobscot
    @17penobscot 5 місяців тому

    But, but… the torsion box top ??? 😂😂😂

  • @jamesalexander8368
    @jamesalexander8368 6 місяців тому

    I don’t find plywood very flat, after you laminate it you can see and feel waves in it…I’ve resorted to using 3/4 MDF as it’s perfectly flat

  • @jamierolls1919
    @jamierolls1919 Рік тому +5

    Why not go with torsion box? I'd like to know the pros and cons.

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  Рік тому +7

      Because they're overkill. As the first guy to post a torsion box on YouTUbe I'm certainly guilty of encouraging people to build them. :) But over the years I've realized they're totally unnecessary. But if you have the time, budget, and desire, no one can fault you for wanting the flattest surface possible.

    • @AnthonyStabler
      @AnthonyStabler Рік тому +2

      I found damaged flat hollow core doors are discounted at Home Depot. Glue a sheet of 1/2 inch MDF or plywood to them. They make agreat assembly table or portable work surface. They get beat up just glue on a new piece. Almost as good as a torsion box.

    • @jamierolls1919
      @jamierolls1919 Рік тому

      @The Wood Whisperer Thank you for the reply. I value your opinion. Torsion box really seems like too much trouble.

  • @alastairmackay4589
    @alastairmackay4589 8 місяців тому

    Nice job! Wish I had the room for one!

  • @thomasblaylock8528
    @thomasblaylock8528 8 місяців тому

    I’ve never seen anyone use plastic. That was a pretty good trick.

  • @SunBearDabs
    @SunBearDabs 8 місяців тому

    Good to hear that people aren’t gate keeping tricks of the trade 🔥

  • @robg7913
    @robg7913 Рік тому +1

    Seems more like a craft table a having all those screws in the top would be a problem in a wood shop again my opinion - also did the laminate show the screws below once it was drawn down to the table surface?

  • @R0gue6729
    @R0gue6729 Рік тому +1

    It's almost a shame to make any kind of mess on it. Beautiful

  • @DTWMTX
    @DTWMTX 10 місяців тому

    I've used sticks... plastic sheeting works, as long as it doesn't stick

  • @tomwristen372
    @tomwristen372 6 місяців тому

    So if you use stainless screws are you superman???LOL

  • @charlesrummer4606
    @charlesrummer4606 8 місяців тому

    I used 2×6 from 1999 I had to belt sand them from the very dark color they were garage kept so the table turned out good

  • @kevinmatthews9207
    @kevinmatthews9207 8 місяців тому

    Not nocking your methods but start with one corner, and align it. You don't need two people to laminate a 4x 8 or 4x10. Faster production.

  • @videocommenter235
    @videocommenter235 9 місяців тому +1

    Did that guy Frank had a bunny suit?

  • @rvail136
    @rvail136 7 місяців тому

    Tightbond 3 is is for exterior use. Why would you use it on a work bench?

  • @steenfraosterbro3268
    @steenfraosterbro3268 8 місяців тому

    Hi Marc. Did the solid wooden edges come with the second sheet (you know, the flat and cheap one) or the formica? I like how you roll......the formica 😂😂😂
    You're welcome.

  • @JohnFBramfeld
    @JohnFBramfeld 8 місяців тому

    Great. Black here, too.

  • @tedspens
    @tedspens Рік тому +1

    I need a nice big shop for an assembly table. 😂😂

  • @ebutuoy8272
    @ebutuoy8272 8 місяців тому

    She pulled out quick.

  • @lukeantoniuk8364
    @lukeantoniuk8364 8 місяців тому

    Oh she’s a beaut Clark!!!

  • @royo4747
    @royo4747 3 місяці тому

    I don't recommend the plastic sheet method for laying laminate. Can it be done? Yes, but you have to be VERY careful. Plastic tends to pick up a static charge. This can make sawdust stick to it. The last thing you want is trash getting stuck under your laminate, causing lumps.

  • @matt_metcalf
    @matt_metcalf Рік тому +1

    Frank AKA CarpenterOne3 is the man!

  • @CaleCoast
    @CaleCoast Рік тому +1

    Not a bad idea. I always used 30" long pieces of 1/4" x 3/4" cabinet scribe, spaced about 7" apart. Let's you slide the glued laminate around, you can pull the sticks from the wall out or from out in to get it tight.

  • @michaelmotorcycle27
    @michaelmotorcycle27 Рік тому

    They make 5 gallon spray tanks for that contact cement. It speeds up the process quite a bit. I also recommend a “PlASTI-CUT” file. It has a cutting edge where you can do essentially do the same thing as the router only by hand and you can get in tight areas and square off corners where the router can’t reach. It has a side for removing material and a side for finishing. They also make a wax you can apply to the router bits that helps with the adhesive gumming up the bearings.

  • @thekinarbo
    @thekinarbo Рік тому

    Not to nit pick, but I’d put the top sheet face down then glue then the bottom sheet then screw it. I’d let it fully dry then remove the screws, then I’d flip it over and laminate the top. If those screws aren’t perfectly level with the surface of the ply those voids will get smashed, also, if for some reason you cut through the top with a saw you don’t want your blade hitting a screw.

  • @sandrinilie
    @sandrinilie 7 місяців тому

    I used free mdf from the buttom of the good mdf pallet

  • @packman21421
    @packman21421 8 місяців тому

    Who doesn’t know about the plastic film trick? It’s everywhere…. Screen protectors, car wraps, tinted windows, I could go on

  • @bradpowell5581
    @bradpowell5581 7 місяців тому

    Instructions unclear! I ended up glueing my laminate to the plastic!

  • @njfabio1
    @njfabio1 Рік тому

    I was looking at this style "lab" table for a work surface.... Much too expensive. This will help greatly, thanks!

    • @GrantOakes
      @GrantOakes Рік тому +1

      Use tempered masonite and screw it down. Makes for a great disposable work surface and can be easily replaced.

  • @Jad.Khoury
    @Jad.Khoury 6 місяців тому

    Nice!

  • @avr2766
    @avr2766 7 місяців тому

    I didn't see the Embly part😂

  • @OneontheRiver
    @OneontheRiver Рік тому

    Starting to think about a BAT myself, so I'm looking forward to this video.

  • @El_Camionero
    @El_Camionero 8 місяців тому

    Put the glue on the substrate last. It dries faster.

  • @Tom-sd5ru
    @Tom-sd5ru Рік тому +1

    There is a much easier way no plastic no sticks. Start on the shorter side n roll the sheet over ur head. Then slowly let it fall down. Done it a million times when i did cabinet work🤙

  • @caseymolloy259
    @caseymolloy259 6 місяців тому

    Plastic is the best way to laminate!

  • @SteveC38
    @SteveC38 Рік тому

    Nice Work, Mark.

  • @myRefuge3710
    @myRefuge3710 Рік тому

    Throw a Stabila level passed the edges and check all around for gaps. Screws tension tend to pull plywood out of square. Hope its dead flat.

  • @leonardorojas1781
    @leonardorojas1781 5 місяців тому

    How will you add work holding devices to that flat surface now?

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  5 місяців тому

      I won't. That's not it's purpose.

    • @leonardorojas1781
      @leonardorojas1781 5 місяців тому

      @@woodwhisperer Would you show or tell us about how you plan to use it, please?

  • @renaissance2005
    @renaissance2005 Рік тому

    I have mine 5x10. Better for assembly big projects

  • @ebutuoy8272
    @ebutuoy8272 8 місяців тому

    Did anyone else read that as "Big Ass Assembly Table"?

  • @j.philipharris3081
    @j.philipharris3081 6 місяців тому

    What screws did you use?

  • @furniturethingskimmel5053
    @furniturethingskimmel5053 6 місяців тому

    Why TB 3 if fact we only use 1 unless it's for a laminate 😅

  • @johncombs4567
    @johncombs4567 Рік тому

    Pretty darn slick!
    Are you going to drill it for bench dogs also?

  • @Alphasig336
    @Alphasig336 7 місяців тому

    No screws, only glue and clamps and weight and then dog hole the crap out of it.

  • @keithnp51
    @keithnp51 Рік тому

    Wow, wouldn't it be great to have space for such a thing! Does any home/garage weekend warrior woodworker have space for such a thing? Free to dream!

  • @markreid6816
    @markreid6816 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m not sure if it’s important but shouldn’t you screw down the table from the center out? That way you push any trapped air pockets out. In the video it looks as though one guy started on the edge while the other started in the middle.
    Again if you saw the stuff I’ve built you’d still be laughing.

  • @lo_fye
    @lo_fye 9 місяців тому

    3/4” plywood is $100/4x8 sheet in Ontario Canada 😢

  • @verndaley3471
    @verndaley3471 Рік тому

    Nice table but can you replace the top when it becomes damaged or worn?

  • @jag5316
    @jag5316 Рік тому

    Why use laminate on a work table? Bare wood can be resanded periodically to take of scratches and stains

  • @sparkywires
    @sparkywires Рік тому

    That is the most elaborate and tedious work bench build I've ever seen.

  • @kirkdavis8019
    @kirkdavis8019 Рік тому +1

    Why would you not just buy a piece of melamine? It works great as cheap or cheaper and just put one piece.

  • @akbychoice
    @akbychoice Рік тому

    Love that plastic sheet idea.

  • @BespokeCarpentry
    @BespokeCarpentry 7 місяців тому

    People talking shit about the gun being pump, but he's doing more work with it than most Americans do with their semi autos.

  • @Critter145
    @Critter145 Рік тому

    How do you maintain flatness with a wood product over such a large span?

  • @weekendwarrior7117
    @weekendwarrior7117 Рік тому +1

    “Flat AND cheap “ sheet-goods do not exist 😂 I only know of “flat and expensive” or “wavy as the friggin Ocean and cheap”

  • @davidr8860
    @davidr8860 7 місяців тому

    I don’t man it looks ok my opinion doesn’t matter just one of a few things I don’t care for is the screws and the Formica not sure what’s going on there

  • @tommyinge81
    @tommyinge81 Рік тому

    That plastic trick is pretty awesome

    • @controlsgirl
      @controlsgirl Рік тому

      I'm having a super hard time understanding what's happening with the plastic. They pull it out too fast. Wouldn't one sheet of plastic get glue on it from both sides?

  • @RichardBellII
    @RichardBellII 8 місяців тому

    if you are going to use two sheets, why not just make a torsion box?

  • @TheLastPharm
    @TheLastPharm 9 місяців тому

    No dog holes or t track functionality?

  • @396fab
    @396fab Рік тому

    Flat and Cheap? Available right next door to the Golden Unicorn store.

  • @michael.schuler
    @michael.schuler Рік тому

    Black tops are sexy, but white ones can be drawn on. In my experience, white melamine serves its intended shop purpose far long enough to yield a significant cost benefit compared to application of horizontal grade laminate.

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  Рік тому

      Yeah I don’t draw on my tables. I have rolls of paper if I need to make large drawings, which has the added benefit of being movable or permanent if I need the drawing for something in the future, like a template. And because I film, black works out a lot better for me.

  • @itsROMPERS...
    @itsROMPERS... Рік тому

    That unsupported overhang looks sketchy, like it's already drooping, but that could be the camera lens. Still, seems like too much.

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  Рік тому

      It's not drooping at all. 10" of overhang on the long edge and 12" of overhang on the short edge is definitely not sketchy when you're talking about a layup of two sheets of plywood with hardwood edging.

  • @markvanderknoop131
    @markvanderknoop131 7 місяців тому

    Vacuum pressing?
    Then you don't need the screws.

  • @bobledger7951
    @bobledger7951 Рік тому +3

    There will be enough energy from the contact bond to pull the edges up in no time. The bottom side should be laminated as well if you want this to remain flat.

  • @rustyreview
    @rustyreview 10 місяців тому

    Do you need glue with that many screws?

  • @nathelm
    @nathelm Рік тому

    I don't understand the point of several layers of, what seems like, expensive materials. Throw a second layer of mdf for a sacrificial surface. Whatever.

  • @tonybucca5667
    @tonybucca5667 7 місяців тому

    I use newspaper instead of plastic

  • @stephenreaves3205
    @stephenreaves3205 Рік тому

    Wouldn't that chamfer make it easier for the top layer to peel up at the edge?

  • @CalMariner
    @CalMariner Рік тому

    Looks AWESOME! How did you level the first sheet?

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  Рік тому +2

      I laid it down on a flat base.

    • @CalMariner
      @CalMariner Рік тому

      @@woodwhisperer nice! I've seen people using lasers and parallel bar methods, must be so much easier to already have a flat reference pane around.

  • @BarrySumpter
    @BarrySumpter Рік тому

    What? A sheet of plastic between the parts? Is it this enough to allow the glues to penetrate?

  • @TheMonkdad
    @TheMonkdad Рік тому

    Or just use that J roller, skip the table assembly and have a chill weekend.

  • @robertking6632
    @robertking6632 Рік тому

    Nice job!

  • @XxBloggs
    @XxBloggs 8 місяців тому

    Just leave it with a plywood top.

  • @bradleywillhite7196
    @bradleywillhite7196 Рік тому

    Where you get the laminate?

  • @TonyMontana-li6rl
    @TonyMontana-li6rl Рік тому

    Forget d plastic, free hand d laminate