I installed this exact model 17 months ago at our cottage. It works PERFECTLY! I have it set at 110 degrees, and you don't even need to turn on the cold water for showers at ALL. Even at 110, you get steam on the mirror. My only critique is that we had it professionally installed, and they required strict vertical venting, even though our old LP tank had an elbow vent, and an always-on pilot light. This requirement is ridiculous, as the only time the water heater is burning propane is when you turn the hot water on. As soon as you turn the hot-water off, the unit takes about 5 seconds to shut down. Totally efficient! You need to let it run for a good 30 seconds before you get hot water, which isn't a problem at all. It runs on 110 electrical, and our propane bills actually DECREASED at the cabin because we aren't heating the same water over-and-over again as it sits in the tank between demands. The other hiccup - which wasn't cheap - was that it requires a 3/4" propane line to feed it. That said, if I could do a rewind, I would have probably installed it myself with a dedicated 30lb propane tank. I'll guarantee that - for the average user - that is 2-3 years of fuel. I don't know about you, but my family takes 10 minute showers. Our unit provides enough hot water for two bathrooms plus a kitchen at our cottage. We host a lot, so - even after having 8-10 guests for several days, you never run out of hot water - ever. The ground temperature for our well is 36 degrees on average. Within 30 seconds, that water is heated to 110, even if someone is taking a shower while someone else is doing the dishes in the kitchen. The maintenance? I got a small submersible pond pump, and fixed it to a 3.5 foot garden hose adapter, and then I shut off the main water feed, open the auxiliary feed, put the pump into a 5 gallon bucket directly below the unit, add about 12 ounces of white vinegar, and run the thing for 5 minutes. The water circulates, and eliminates any film that may have built up inside the unit. Then, I shut it off, reopen the main water feed, and bleed the system for about 2 minutes. I've done this twice in 17 months. The unit works PERFECTLY. Rinnai - to me - is the only choice. It cost me MORE to have it professionally installed than it did to purchase the unit. Live and learn, I guess.
The best thing about this new model is that it meant I found the older model on sale. Don't need any kind of integrated, learning recirc pump.... just heat my water!
I think the biggest advance in tankless and tank water heaters would be a automated lime/calcium build up flush system. It is the biggest killer of water heaters.
We have an older one installed a few years ago one of the best buys for our house. Love the non stop hot water. Have a bunch of people wanting to shower no problem!
My outdoor Rinnai is 4 years old. 199,000 BTU's. The first year I flushed it twice. I have flushed it once a year since. This year while flushing I pulled the flame rods and cleaned them. They were mildly dirty and really didn't need cleaning but I did anyway. I also have just about every part on hand as a spare. I haven't had one issue and it's a builder grade model. I wish the builder put in a recirc line but he didn't. I could probably easily run one to take advantage of this new model in the future. My model doesn't condense so I don't have to worry about neutralizer media either so that's another plus to keeping it simple.
I'm installing an RX130 today, really like the new tech and high efficiency. Great to know yours lasted 20 years+ It feels odd that the manual states to pour 10 oz of water in the exhaust port on initial start up. But, I guess that's like priming a dry system. Thx for the vid! Update, my bluetooth did/does not work. 120 degree setting did not provide 120 degree water. I had to manually enter parameter 01B to allow me to set it to 130 and then all was good. Just an update to help others. Install took 2 hours;)
Seems very similar to the Navien model. It’s a great unit also. Replaced an 80 gallon gas water heater on a recirc line, best appliance purchase I have had. Endless hot water for filling hot tub plus the intelligent recirc always has master shower ready for instant hot shower in the morning.
Looks like they’re finally coming up to navien tankless standards. They’ve had built in intelligent recirc for years now and outdoor vent cap, and 98% efficiency, etc. good to see rinnai is finally catching up
@@epiphany6 Navien is also great if you like it recirculating it's own exhaust gas. They leak right out of the box. Navien claims using soap bubbles and watching them leak is acceptable. lol
@@ToddBizCoach I bought the unit from Lowe's for about $1500. It was their RX199i model. I didn't get the recirculating pump since I'm in So Cal with warmer weather. Seems to work good.
Can you make a teenager setting kills hot water after 30 minutes for 24 hours to that shower. This setting will pay for the unit in a few weeks time in my house.
Tank still wins imo in most cases. Dumb, reliable, works when the power is down, easier to routine clean, no major line changes needed for a large power requirement. Can we now appreciate after 2 or 3 decades of tankless as a realistic option the minor energy savings in most use case scenarios just aren't worth it? A smart valve for nat gas vs propane? C'mon, gee whiz tech sure, but we're talking a 5 min operation done once in the lifetime of a unit. It's just asking for trouble. That said, I love tech in my life. Just not in ho hum places where I want absolute max reliability and absolute set it and forget it simplicity. Great video material as usual, no complaints there.
I used to think the same, but I went to tankless because I didn't have enough space. After trying tankless I will NEVER go bank to a tank heater. I like having endless hot water. I like having the option to take a shower as long as I want when the rest of the family is also using hot water.
Yeah except when the tank leaks on Saturday night at 2am and 20 gallons of water leaked out into my finished basement out of a 75 gallon tank before I could get down to shut the main off. Bradford and White Power Vent tank with soft water system in house and whole home filter and the tank only last 9 years. Routine flushign performed but not enough height above tank to replace the anode rod. New tank installed in NJ $4400. So no it doesn't win in every scenario.
The image on their website showing the Versa Vent for this model looks like there's also a cover available for the piping? That sounds like a nice add-on for when you get those freak cold spells. We had one of those this past year, and a friend of mine (who has an external tankless water heater) had to keep his hot water running all the time to ensure the pipes didn't freeze over.
Nice video, man. Ansswered my questions. BTW, I spent 30 yrs in Austin, great town! But I gotta say, it was a better place in 1995 that it is in 2025, LOL!
Sometimes I am impressed by how far in front the USA is in building science, then there's times like this where I am like - we've had all that tech in the UK/Europe for at least a decade. Great investment for anywhere that doesn't have space for a heat pump or the available electrical supply.
Could you kindly update the title to specify that the video is for gas/propane? I spent some time watching, assuming it was for electric, and just wanted to help avoid confusion for others. Thanks so much!
building a home here in Colorado - the challenge I hear from builders is that water coming to the unit is 45-50 degrees and tankless can't keep up with needing to heat and distribute hot water.
Sized properly the temperature rise is not an issue. I have the opposite problem in Arizona, where the incoming water can be 100°. The tankless will vary the burners to deliver the correct temperature. If it’s sized incorrectly, they work beautifully. The proper sizing includes gas piping too.
We are looking at adding a new tankless water heater. Rinnai is recommending the RXP model instead of the RX model. I live in Houston. And don’t know if it’s worth the extra $300. Any thoughts?
I have the 220V version with the electric elements and I have never had to use them even with 8 people taking showers back to back. I guess the endless showers of the tankless is awesome for homes with tons of people@suspicionofdeceit
Apples and oranges. How could an appliance producing heat be more efficient than one that exchanges it with the medium in which it is immersed (air, water or soil)??
If it last twice as long with maintenance, what is the costs of said maintenance over that time period and which costs more in the end? My gas was 1.75 a unit last month, what is the point?
I have an aging standard propane fired water heater tank and a new Grundfos smart recirculating pump with a 2800 SqFt two story house with only three people. Is a unit like this or a heat pump type unit the best option? California electricity is ridiculously high in price.
we do that in MN because out water is very hard. I have a big blue whole house filter going to a water softener before it gets to the heater. It helps reduce the build considerably and this is from a city with 21 grains of hardness.
Our village had 23 gr hard water and for decades our water heaters died a horrible, noisy, gurgling lie-filled death at 7 years... even using a whole house filter. I switched to a water softener and adjusted it for a 7 gr hardness output and my present gas fired and power vented water heater is like new after 11 years. Nothing inside to flush out. ;-)
Would this ability to switch between NG and LP from the app itself allow a sort of dual fuel type use? Say, on the off-chance the gas supply is out somehow or, as here in the CA market, NG use for water heaters gets increasingly phased out, which is supposed to be 2026 for us?
Does anyone know if one of these USA units would work with a transformer in a country with 240 volt 50 hz, with the transformer producing 120 volts 50 hz.
There's already electric tankless... and to keep up with a whole house it's 120 amps... there's 0 compelling reason for this when you could have a heat pump.
You lost me with intelligent. I’ll start buying “intelligent” appliances again when they start using commodity PC brains instead of custom ridiculously priced brains.
I LIKE THE WINDOWS U TALK ABOUT PELLA THAT U DO FROM THE INSIDE. I LIVE ON THE EASTSHORE OF MD. MY HOUSE IS ALL ELECTRIC, CAN U RECOMIND A COMPANY THAT HAS A GOOD ONE FOR A 1675 SQ. FOOT HOUSE 2 STORY.
@@buildshowI recently watch a video on gas hot water tanks, and apparently there’s a difference between say “Home Depot models” and “plumbing supply house” models, even though they’re identical model numbers and such - is that true with Rinnai tankless heaters as well? Or is the one at Home Depot the exact same one a plumber would get, just without the markup?
Ok so these features are convenient for installers, but just adds to complexity that does nothing for the homeowner, just will make it more unreliable over time. Did Rinnai introduce any new models that actually are performance improvements - not installer hacks? As another commenter suggested, an automated lime/calcium flush system would be useful. Having both natural gas and propane components inside the same unit is a gimmick that is only useful for installers who don't want to carry two different units in the truck.
Anyone living south of Canada should absolutely avoid this and go with a heat pump instead. Don’t screw over your customers, guide them to the best solution which is almost always a heat pump.
I only have a 120v outlet that is shared with my washer and dryer and after my elec car charger i have maxed out my electrical service to the house so a 220v line for a good heat pump w/h isn't in the cards for me. Tankless seems like great option for a 3 person townhome such as myself...
Sanco2 is the only heat pump water heater we have in the US and its very expensive, does Canada have more choices available? Well theres also Mitsubishi, but their water heat pump is only marketed for industrial install.
I appreciate the feedback. That’s a good idea. I like going over the individual specs on particular units. I enjoy the nitty-gritty details of these particular units.
More crap to break. I manage a 7yr old building with 32 of the older RU199i. They have been the biggest garbage I have ever dealt with. Out of the 32 units, 19 have had to be replaced. THEY ARE BARELY 7 YR OLD. Bad heat exchangers that bust and flood areas, Leaks from the seals, where the pipes use those stupid clips, bad valves and boards, I could go on. I found your video because I just now installed one of the new re199in and the QR code does not work so I cannot program it. I load these tankless water heaters
That's great if you want/have Gas (of some sort)... 2 questions: First, is it available for Electric use? (I care about the Planet, and the continued use of Fossil Fuels.) And Second: What is the max Water Temp available to the Home Owner? (If you say "125 degrees, of course"...Thant's a non-starter. I just replaced a Water Heater, and had a HUGE argument with the Plumbing company to set the WH Temp to 145 (the max available.) I shower at at least 130 degrees (no, really.) If you try and run your WH at Max without mixing Cold Water in, you lose Capacity (whether heated Tank capacity, or BTU Throughput in a Tankless.)
How much are you getting paid to shill for Rinnai? Navien has made far better heaters for years. And each time Rinnai made a change to it's tankless heaters they looked more and more like Navien. Why not go with the one that has been doing it for years. I work on all brands, so I don't care what you buy.
I don't understand the need for Matt to push a gas product that contradicts his philosophical views of creating tight, clean, energy efficient homes. Heat pumps are the future.
Newsflash: a tight, clean, energy efficient home can also use gas. It's not Matt's job isn't to reflect your personal views. (also, a big chunk of the electricity needed to run those heat pumps comes from coal and natural gas)
@@Pepe-dq2ib No, there are a dozen heat pump water heater options in the US. The Sanco is a novel concept but quite expensive and limited distribution and support options. BTW, they all have great government and utility rebates as well.
I definitely like heat pumps and do love a tight/efficient house indeed. However, there is definitely still a place for gas appliances in American homes. There is no perfect water heater for every situation or house. Choice is a good thing and Rinnai makes some great equipment. I’ve seen their units give 20+ years of trouble free service.
@@buildshow Matt, I greatly appreciate your time to response to my post. I still think it be good for you to encourage folks to go more efficient. As one of the leading voices for the building sciences online, you might want to do a quick recap/overview at the beginning of each of your videos when covering a topic like this, especially one that might contradict your ethos. Saying something like, heat pumps is the way to go and how I choose to heat my house (and what I recommend to clients), but if your space doesn't or an electric panel doesn't allow for it, this might be a good alternative.
I installed this exact model 17 months ago at our cottage. It works PERFECTLY! I have it set at 110 degrees, and you don't even need to turn on the cold water for showers at ALL. Even at 110, you get steam on the mirror. My only critique is that we had it professionally installed, and they required strict vertical venting, even though our old LP tank had an elbow vent, and an always-on pilot light. This requirement is ridiculous, as the only time the water heater is burning propane is when you turn the hot water on. As soon as you turn the hot-water off, the unit takes about 5 seconds to shut down. Totally efficient! You need to let it run for a good 30 seconds before you get hot water, which isn't a problem at all. It runs on 110 electrical, and our propane bills actually DECREASED at the cabin because we aren't heating the same water over-and-over again as it sits in the tank between demands. The other hiccup - which wasn't cheap - was that it requires a 3/4" propane line to feed it. That said, if I could do a rewind, I would have probably installed it myself with a dedicated 30lb propane tank. I'll guarantee that - for the average user - that is 2-3 years of fuel. I don't know about you, but my family takes 10 minute showers. Our unit provides enough hot water for two bathrooms plus a kitchen at our cottage. We host a lot, so - even after having 8-10 guests for several days, you never run out of hot water - ever. The ground temperature for our well is 36 degrees on average. Within 30 seconds, that water is heated to 110, even if someone is taking a shower while someone else is doing the dishes in the kitchen. The maintenance? I got a small submersible pond pump, and fixed it to a 3.5 foot garden hose adapter, and then I shut off the main water feed, open the auxiliary feed, put the pump into a 5 gallon bucket directly below the unit, add about 12 ounces of white vinegar, and run the thing for 5 minutes. The water circulates, and eliminates any film that may have built up inside the unit. Then, I shut it off, reopen the main water feed, and bleed the system for about 2 minutes. I've done this twice in 17 months. The unit works PERFECTLY. Rinnai - to me - is the only choice. It cost me MORE to have it professionally installed than it did to purchase the unit. Live and learn, I guess.
The best thing about this new model is that it meant I found the older model on sale. Don't need any kind of integrated, learning recirc pump.... just heat my water!
I feel the same, except that this one is more efficient than the others. Almost 100% but, that sale tho
Yes good deals can be had right now as they clear out the older models.
I think the biggest advance in tankless and tank water heaters would be a automated lime/calcium build up flush system. It is the biggest killer of water heaters.
We installed big blue whole house filters and a water softener before the water hits the heater. Never had a problem with buildup.
It’s got the circulation pump in it
Especially since 99% of homeowners never flush them properly or perform any maintenance
@@Pepe-dq2ibnice to have money
We have an older one installed a few years ago one of the best buys for our house. Love the non stop hot water. Have a bunch of people wanting to shower no problem!
My outdoor Rinnai is 4 years old. 199,000 BTU's. The first year I flushed it twice. I have flushed it once a year since. This year while flushing I pulled the flame rods and cleaned them. They were mildly dirty and really didn't need cleaning but I did anyway. I also have just about every part on hand as a spare. I haven't had one issue and it's a builder grade model. I wish the builder put in a recirc line but he didn't. I could probably easily run one to take advantage of this new model in the future. My model doesn't condense so I don't have to worry about neutralizer media either so that's another plus to keeping it simple.
Remember, they have a graphite coating and may "look" dirty. If they need cleaned, use a dollar bill so as not to damage the coating
I'm installing an RX130 today, really like the new tech and high efficiency. Great to know yours lasted 20 years+ It feels odd that the manual states to pour 10 oz of water in the exhaust port on initial start up. But, I guess that's like priming a dry system. Thx for the vid! Update, my bluetooth did/does not work. 120 degree setting did not provide 120 degree water. I had to manually enter parameter 01B to allow me to set it to 130 and then all was good. Just an update to help others. Install took 2 hours;)
I literally just picked one up right now for my new construction bill in Raleigh! Thanks for the great recommendation Matt
Seems very similar to the Navien model. It’s a great unit also. Replaced an 80 gallon gas water heater on a recirc line, best appliance purchase I have had. Endless hot water for filling hot tub plus the intelligent recirc always has master shower ready for instant hot shower in the morning.
Looks like they’re finally coming up to navien tankless standards. They’ve had built in intelligent recirc for years now and outdoor vent cap, and 98% efficiency, etc. good to see rinnai is finally catching up
Yup and I have one (version without built-in recirc however).
And yet one of those brands explodes and catches on fire...
And it's not Rinnai...
@@epiphany6 Navien is also great if you like it recirculating it's own exhaust gas. They leak right out of the box. Navien claims using soap bubbles and watching them leak is acceptable. lol
@@scotts4125 I've had a Navien for 2 years, no issues, i do my own maintenance. Agree they seem to have a quality problem with production
What about Rheem? I.E. Rheem RTGH-SR11i.
I installed this at my home two weeks ago and it has been great!
What did you pay , without labor? Did you buy from a distributor or at Home Depot?
@@ToddBizCoach I bought the unit from Lowe's for about $1500. It was their RX199i model. I didn't get the recirculating pump since I'm in So Cal with warmer weather. Seems to work good.
Can you make a teenager setting kills hot water after 30 minutes for 24 hours to that shower. This setting will pay for the unit in a few weeks time in my house.
Looks good for when my WH fails. It has lasted 32 years so far with no maintenance. I'm in no hurry.
Tank still wins imo in most cases. Dumb, reliable, works when the power is down, easier to routine clean, no major line changes needed for a large power requirement. Can we now appreciate after 2 or 3 decades of tankless as a realistic option the minor energy savings in most use case scenarios just aren't worth it? A smart valve for nat gas vs propane? C'mon, gee whiz tech sure, but we're talking a 5 min operation done once in the lifetime of a unit. It's just asking for trouble. That said, I love tech in my life. Just not in ho hum places where I want absolute max reliability and absolute set it and forget it simplicity. Great video material as usual, no complaints there.
I used to think the same, but I went to tankless because I didn't have enough space. After trying tankless I will NEVER go bank to a tank heater. I like having endless hot water. I like having the option to take a shower as long as I want when the rest of the family is also using hot water.
Yeah except when the tank leaks on Saturday night at 2am and 20 gallons of water leaked out into my finished basement out of a 75 gallon tank before I could get down to shut the main off. Bradford and White Power Vent tank with soft water system in house and whole home filter and the tank only last 9 years. Routine flushign performed but not enough height above tank to replace the anode rod. New tank installed in NJ $4400. So no it doesn't win in every scenario.
The image on their website showing the Versa Vent for this model looks like there's also a cover available for the piping? That sounds like a nice add-on for when you get those freak cold spells. We had one of those this past year, and a friend of mine (who has an external tankless water heater) had to keep his hot water running all the time to ensure the pipes didn't freeze over.
Nice video, man. Ansswered my questions. BTW, I spent 30 yrs in Austin, great town! But I gotta say, it was a better place in 1995 that it is in 2025, LOL!
Would you please consider doing a UA-cam episode where you come and help fix all the problems in my house
Thanks for considering
Sometimes I am impressed by how far in front the USA is in building science, then there's times like this where I am like - we've had all that tech in the UK/Europe for at least a decade. Great investment for anywhere that doesn't have space for a heat pump or the available electrical supply.
Matt, what is a good electric tankless water heater? We co not have access to natural gas in our area.
Do big box stores sell it and for how much ?
Just installed a RXP unit, I’m unable to connect using Bluetooth for the app. Frustrating not bring able to connect to the app.
Could you kindly update the title to specify that the video is for gas/propane? I spent some time watching, assuming it was for electric, and just wanted to help avoid confusion for others. Thanks so much!
It’s both! All you have to do is program it for either LP or NG
I can buy and install it without voiding the warranty?
building a home here in Colorado - the challenge I hear from builders is that water coming to the unit is 45-50 degrees and tankless can't keep up with needing to heat and distribute hot water.
Sized properly the temperature rise is not an issue. I have the opposite problem in Arizona, where the incoming water can be 100°. The tankless will vary the burners to deliver the correct temperature. If it’s sized incorrectly, they work beautifully. The proper sizing includes gas piping too.
Do they make electric tankless units?
We are looking at adding a new tankless water heater. Rinnai is recommending the RXP model instead of the RX model. I live in Houston. And don’t know if it’s worth the extra $300. Any thoughts?
Is it more efficient than an electric heat pump?
Never
I have the 220V version with the electric elements and I have never had to use them even with 8 people taking showers back to back. I guess the endless showers of the tankless is awesome for homes with tons of people@suspicionofdeceit
Apples and oranges. How could an appliance producing heat be more efficient than one that exchanges it with the medium in which it is immersed (air, water or soil)??
Could this be used for hydronic in floor heating set ups?
What pipe cover would I order for this unit?
Is it true that Rinnai no longer includes the isolation values with the newer models? I thought I had read that somewhere, can someone confirm?
Can we use Versa vent for indoor installation ?
no
Will the largest unit be able to handle 5 showers used at the same time?
Ibc superflow is really the best tankless. All these others have heat exchangers that suck to clean and maintain
You do not have to clean this heat exchanger! It is NOT part of the yearly maintenance, that other manufacturers require.
What are the 130, 160, 180. 199 designations for?
Are these designations about the size of the house?
Can you elaborate?
Thanks!
BTUs
All the fancy doodads are great for installers, but homeowners get to deal with the fun of tech crapping out in 5 years. Same with modern cars.
If it last twice as long with maintenance, what is the costs of said maintenance over that time period and which costs more in the end? My gas was 1.75 a unit last month, what is the point?
I have an aging standard propane fired water heater tank and a new Grundfos smart recirculating pump with a 2800 SqFt two story house with only three people. Is a unit like this or a heat pump type unit the best option? California electricity is ridiculously high in price.
Would having a softener or additional filter be ideal on the incoming side of tank? For any reason?
we do that in MN because out water is very hard. I have a big blue whole house filter going to a water softener before it gets to the heater. It helps reduce the build considerably and this is from a city with 21 grains of hardness.
Rinnai sells their own pre filter for their tankless water heaters. It's called scale buster or something similar.
Our village had 23 gr hard water and for decades our water heaters died a horrible, noisy, gurgling lie-filled death at 7 years... even using a whole house filter. I switched to a water softener and adjusted it for a 7 gr hardness output and my present gas fired and power vented water heater is like new after 11 years. Nothing inside to flush out. ;-)
Would this ability to switch between NG and LP from the app itself allow a sort of dual fuel type use? Say, on the off-chance the gas supply is out somehow or, as here in the CA market, NG use for water heaters gets increasingly phased out, which is supposed to be 2026 for us?
Does anyone know if one of these USA units would work with a transformer in a country with 240 volt 50 hz, with the transformer producing 120 volts 50 hz.
Thanks for sharing this very helpful information! 👍
My pleasure!
Features that save the plumber time? Why would they want to get rid of billable time?
Could they make a induction electric tankless?
There's already electric tankless... and to keep up with a whole house it's 120 amps... there's 0 compelling reason for this when you could have a heat pump.
I would agree. I’m not a fan of electric tankless
You lost me with intelligent. I’ll start buying “intelligent” appliances again when they start using commodity PC brains instead of custom ridiculously priced brains.
$20 Arduino or even $5 ATtiny would probably suffice...
I don't like priority anything.
you're not the target audience this is aimed at plumbers
@@auspicioustoot Too late!
@@nunyabidness3075 for ?
I LIKE THE WINDOWS U TALK ABOUT PELLA THAT U DO FROM THE INSIDE. I LIVE ON THE EASTSHORE OF MD. MY HOUSE IS ALL ELECTRIC, CAN U RECOMIND A COMPANY THAT HAS A GOOD ONE FOR A 1675 SQ. FOOT HOUSE 2 STORY.
Isn't pvc forbidden for gas combustion?
Not in most states for condensing water heaters.
with that level of high efficientcy of 0,98 , PVC is allow.
Nice! I’m planning to use this for my spec build(1.15mil) in Raleigh
What’s the typical cost?
Looked it up on Amazon and one of the models was $1800.
It’ll be much less at a supply house. I would not buy that on Amazon
Call your local plumbing supply house and get a price. I suspect this is gonna come out in the $1300 range. I believe this is on the shelf now.
Sounds about right, thanks!
@@buildshowI recently watch a video on gas hot water tanks, and apparently there’s a difference between say “Home Depot models” and “plumbing supply house” models, even though they’re identical model numbers and such - is that true with Rinnai tankless heaters as well? Or is the one at Home Depot the exact same one a plumber would get, just without the markup?
Ok so these features are convenient for installers, but just adds to complexity that does nothing for the homeowner, just will make it more unreliable over time. Did Rinnai introduce any new models that actually are performance improvements - not installer hacks? As another commenter suggested, an automated lime/calcium flush system would be useful. Having both natural gas and propane components inside the same unit is a gimmick that is only useful for installers who don't want to carry two different units in the truck.
Anyone living south of Canada should absolutely avoid this and go with a heat pump instead.
Don’t screw over your customers, guide them to the best solution which is almost always a heat pump.
I only have a 120v outlet that is shared with my washer and dryer and after my elec car charger i have maxed out my electrical service to the house so a 220v line for a good heat pump w/h isn't in the cards for me. Tankless seems like great option for a 3 person townhome such as myself...
Sanco2 is the only heat pump water heater we have in the US and its very expensive, does Canada have more choices available? Well theres also Mitsubishi, but their water heat pump is only marketed for industrial install.
Especially in Texas. You don’t need gas in Texas. Electric heat pump for space and water heating should be mandatory
@@Pepe-dq2ibthere are many brands of tank HPWH in the US
@@Steve-bm2zm LOL! AYFKM? It's Texas!
Does it have forced arbitration?
This sounds like a fun story. What did they do?
Critical question to ask these days
I thought induction is more efficient than resistance heating.
Matt, You should do more product informational videos. This was a good overview.
I appreciate the feedback. That’s a good idea. I like going over the individual specs on particular units. I enjoy the nitty-gritty details of these particular units.
What’s the best, most efficient tankless hot water heater that’s all ELECTRIC? Also, ventless too. Anyone?
Will this work with fuel oil???
More crap to break. I manage a 7yr old building with 32 of the older RU199i. They have been the biggest garbage I have ever dealt with. Out of the 32 units, 19 have had to be replaced. THEY ARE BARELY 7 YR OLD. Bad heat exchangers that bust and flood areas, Leaks from the seals, where the pipes use those stupid clips, bad valves and boards, I could go on. I found your video because I just now installed one of the new re199in and the QR code does not work so I cannot program it. I load these tankless water heaters
You have an alternative recommendation for outdoor propane?
I thought Matt was about green building. Ditch the gas and let's talk some heat pumps!
A quick look suggests that the price just went up about $500.
Stop with the ap crap. Why on earth do I need to add an ap for fricken water heater.
Orifice?
That's great if you want/have Gas (of some sort)... 2 questions:
First, is it available for Electric use? (I care about the Planet, and the continued use of Fossil Fuels.)
And Second: What is the max Water Temp available to the Home Owner? (If you say "125 degrees, of course"...Thant's a non-starter. I just replaced a Water Heater, and had a HUGE argument with the Plumbing company to set the WH Temp to 145 (the max available.)
I shower at at least 130 degrees (no, really.) If you try and run your WH at Max without mixing Cold Water in, you lose Capacity (whether heated Tank capacity, or BTU Throughput in a Tankless.)
Who wants to bet that the data from your water usage is sold
I bought it and regret it, the recirculation pump is insanely loud, can hear in whole house
Is that background music AI generated?
We use a music service that allows us to post with a license to YT.
Yeah you have one in your house because the company most likely gave you one for all the plugs.
This things a piece of shit, had for 4 months and broke
Meh. Unless you have severely limited space, do yourself a favor and buy a hybrid heat pump water heater. Way, way more efficient.
😅😅😅 Ooh eine gastherme. Sowas gibt es schon mehr seit 60 Jahren. Wie rückständig seid ihr bloß.
This is a just a commercial for your sponsor. I come back to your channel just long enough to get reminded about why I unsubscribed.
Unless it can run off free solar energy, not interested.
No thank you, if you have a dedicated recirc line dont go with this one just dont its not worth it
Sponsored by Ranai… sounds like an advertisement….next
How much are you getting paid to shill for Rinnai? Navien has made far better heaters for years. And each time Rinnai made a change to it's tankless heaters they looked more and more like Navien. Why not go with the one that has been doing it for years. I work on all brands, so I don't care what you buy.
gas? really? taking a big chance on a future outlawed energy source 🤣🤣🤣
I don't understand the need for Matt to push a gas product that contradicts his philosophical views of creating tight, clean, energy efficient homes. Heat pumps are the future.
Newsflash: a tight, clean, energy efficient home can also use gas.
It's not Matt's job isn't to reflect your personal views.
(also, a big chunk of the electricity needed to run those heat pumps comes from coal and natural gas)
isnt there only 1 true heat pump water heater int he market now? I believe its the Sanco that Matt did a review on earlier this year.
@@Pepe-dq2ib No, there are a dozen heat pump water heater options in the US. The Sanco is a novel concept but quite expensive and limited distribution and support options. BTW, they all have great government and utility rebates as well.
I definitely like heat pumps and do love a tight/efficient house indeed. However, there is definitely still a place for gas appliances in American homes. There is no perfect water heater for every situation or house. Choice is a good thing and Rinnai makes some great equipment. I’ve seen their units give 20+ years of trouble free service.
@@buildshow Matt, I greatly appreciate your time to response to my post. I still think it be good for you to encourage folks to go more efficient. As one of the leading voices for the building sciences online, you might want to do a quick recap/overview at the beginning of each of your videos when covering a topic like this, especially one that might contradict your ethos. Saying something like, heat pumps is the way to go and how I choose to heat my house (and what I recommend to clients), but if your space doesn't or an electric panel doesn't allow for it, this might be a good alternative.