I am not a Waves fan usually, but this one is really quite good. It's great on most everything, including the master bus and the tilt feature is really nice.
@@aemythjensen I came back to waves for Clarity too. Funny thing, it wasn't for a human voice, it was for a cat. And it still worked beautifully. You have to give credit where credit is due, Clarity is amazing. Still trying to avoid them as much as possible though.
Try lowering both the guitar and vocals with a flat curve (the big round knob at the bottom in the center, without additional equalization of individual frequencies, like in your video, and then listen to the delta of Soothe (how it eats up the useful signal and creates a cottony sound of the voice like a neural network) and then of Equator (how it takes away the resonances and as a result the sound will sound natural). The Equator does not need to be painfully tuned with individual frequencies like Soothe 2. It will find everything it needs itself. Equator also has a delta button on the right above the big knob. And it will become clear to you that this is a completely different level of anti-resonance processing.) Spend more time studying it and it will show you magic. P.S. You almost missed a magic plugin. )
Thought the same, and not to forget it has a nice sounding sidechain function+ learn mode for the signal that makes the supression more smooth, tailored to the source. i like the channel very much, but this review looks like foliasound dont want to like the plugin in the first place so he did not bother to geting it to work.
@@Thorsten-b1d Thank you. I was just planning to conduct some more deep experiments on the Equator sidechain aspects, kick/bass, vocals/synth. I don't rule out that in this regard it will be better than Soothe.
You are so unfair to Waves... And your statements are not entirely true, sorry... By the way, they support this hostility towards this company. 1. Comparing the Waves resonance suppressor version to Sooth is fundamentally unfair due to the price difference. Would it be worth comparing the quality of cars in a price ratio of 1:5? The correct question for Waves is how useful it is in work, and the proper opponent for it would be the version of the aforementioned Baby Audio (price does matter in comparisons I dare say). 2. You don't have to buy subsequent versions of Waves plugins! This is an absurd statement. Somehow I still use old versions of many of their plugins and no one is forcing me to update! I don't feel the need to update if the new versions do not bring anything that will improve the quality of work. And by the way, how many companies do we have that do not make us pay for new versions? Acustica Audio, Melda, a few others are certainly nice examples, but they are not the rule. 3. It is thanks to Waves that we have such a huge drop in prices on the market. Do you think UAD and others would have given us such great deals if the market hadn't changed so much with Waves' famous $29 per plugin move years ago? It's unbelievable that people don't appreciate that. Of course they didn't do it to please us, but it's what made it so many people around the world could afford really good plugins... Otherwise we'd still be seeing more like $199 prices 4. People sometimes go into fundamentalist mode. Yes, Waves made a terrible mistake by going subscription-only back in the day. But they fixed it in a matter of days. How many companies were able to react that quickly? And yet you still read hate comments for that move... Seriously? How many days did it take? How many years are people going to point out this mistake? It's generally not the plugins but the skill of the engineer that makes the end result. I'd dare say there are still a lot of tracks that are still considered great mixes using Waves plugins than people realize.
If you change your computer you'll see how much pain in the ass is the process of installing the old Waves plugins and if you're using Mac you need to buy the new ones because the older versions just won't work on your OS. They charge for the updates of the same plugins with the same features, it's anti-consumer behaviour that no other company does. Waves has some classics which are great like CLA76 or L1 and I use them but as a company Waves really sucks, sorry.
@@JimmyBigJim I literally wrote that I use some of their plugins lol. Maybe 4 or 5 I use daily while mixing. But I'm not an advocate of their business practices
I've been looking at SpecCraft I'm close to buying it as everything ThreeBodyTech create are amazing. They also confirmed that they will be selling this only on their website and PI will not be selling SpecCraft.
Many great audio production engineers, who don't post on YT because they don't have time to do so, have a completely different opinion about this plugin than you
I am pretty sure that in a few weeks other large, well-known and globally very popular third-party providers will bring similarly good plugins onto the market, and at very interesting prices for the broad buyer base. I can happily wait that long. I don't have to jump on every new bandwagon straight away 😅
Why review a product when your mind is made up before you even start? Your review was cursory and dismissive and you didn't even try out one of the main features, the "Learn" function. I know that most reviews of this product are paid for by Waves and are not to be trusted. I came to your channel because I have come to expect honest and objective reviews from you. However, I feel that this time you didn't deliver. 😥
Waves is better than Soothe. Simple check: listen to Delta. Soothe reveals broken tone, whenever Waves has a normal smoothe Delta tone. Think of the impact on the sound.
I find myself using less waves plugins but there are a few that are in my template that just work & my client actually ask me for the sound they produce. I can say I like this one & the learn function is the real gem for this plugin & I notice you didn't use it. I use the learn & then tweak so it literally takes me a few minute to get a good sound! I always love your videos but not using all the functions of a plugin & saying its just ok doesn't seem fair.
@@lukassbeataddicts I tried both side by side and Soothe 2 wins hands down. This is more like a Smooth Operator and that thing never really worked for me. I'm not a fanboy of anything. I go with whatever does the job best. Soothe 2 will eventually be beaten, and when that will happen, I will happily invest money in the new thing. If this plug works for you, good.
@@JimmyBigJim I didn't say they weren't. They are. What I said is that they were the best. Until now. I've switched to Speccraft. Good thing I was on rent to own and only 2 payments in.
Looking for some info about this plugin, ended to listen a dude who cant help himself but repeating how much he hates Waves. Ok dude, we got it. You made a whole video about it apparently. Whats the point of testing the plugin if you know from the get go that you don't want it just because you hate the brand? What about not make people waste their time and listen to you venting? This is so biased and add absolutely no value. Have a good one.
Funny comment, they INVENTED audio plugins, it was not a thing before - first ever plugin was Q10 in 1992 and it cost $1000. And they were first in almost every category of plugins. When you go to any medium or large studio, music or post, they are expected to have Waves installed on all their rigs. Not saying it's a good or bad thing, just that Waves ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
Such a long video with such bad examples! Who needs to tweak resonances out of a resonating guitar? AND, other youtubers have stressed the greatness of Equator to treat full mixes. Not even touched here. Please keep company politics apart from pro sound reviews. Good luck.
Hard to take you seriously. This was my first time seeing one of your videos. You obviously had your mind made up before you even used the software. And you did not even use all of the controls properly. Very sketchy review. Probably won't be back for more.
Yep, I'm against Waves, I find their policies scammy and against users. I believe this is my right to have my very own view on things, I don't feel like being the most accepted guy out there - I value my own space and my own opinion more than anything else, that's all. Greetings!
Heeey! What do you think about this one? Also not a fan of Waves like me? Lemme know down below!
I spoke to Waves on live chat and they told me that you have to pay for updates after one year and that was enough for me not to buy it.
It can't be correct. I do have Waves plugins which are 8 years or older (V9.92). All of them are working fine!
@@heinrei2125 I'm actually talking about getting access to updates after the first year of purchase.
I am not a Waves fan usually, but this one is really quite good. It's great on most everything, including the master bus and the tilt feature is really nice.
I had sworn never to buy any Waves plugins ever again. I broke the promise when Clarity Vx came out, and further broke the promise now with Equator 😄
@@aemythjensen I came back to waves for Clarity too. Funny thing, it wasn't for a human voice, it was for a cat. And it still worked beautifully. You have to give credit where credit is due, Clarity is amazing. Still trying to avoid them as much as possible though.
Yeah I got Equator, Clarity, and IDX for $50 CAD not bad.
Try lowering both the guitar and vocals with a flat curve (the big round knob at the bottom in the center, without additional equalization of individual frequencies, like in your video, and then listen to the delta of Soothe (how it eats up the useful signal and creates a cottony sound of the voice like a neural network) and then of Equator (how it takes away the resonances and as a result the sound will sound natural). The Equator does not need to be painfully tuned with individual frequencies like Soothe 2. It will find everything it needs itself.
Equator also has a delta button on the right above the big knob.
And it will become clear to you that this is a completely different level of anti-resonance processing.) Spend more time studying it and it will show you magic.
P.S. You almost missed a magic plugin. )
Thought the same, and not to forget it has a nice sounding sidechain function+ learn mode for the signal that makes the supression more smooth, tailored to the source. i like the channel very much, but this review looks like foliasound dont want to like the plugin in the first place so he did not bother to geting it to work.
@@Thorsten-b1d Thank you. I was just planning to conduct some more deep experiments on the Equator sidechain aspects, kick/bass, vocals/synth. I don't rule out that in this regard it will be better than Soothe.
You are so unfair to Waves... And your statements are not entirely true, sorry... By the way, they support this hostility towards this company.
1. Comparing the Waves resonance suppressor version to Sooth is fundamentally unfair due to the price difference. Would it be worth comparing the quality of cars in a price ratio of 1:5?
The correct question for Waves is how useful it is in work, and the proper opponent for it would be the version of the aforementioned Baby Audio (price does matter in comparisons I dare say).
2. You don't have to buy subsequent versions of Waves plugins! This is an absurd statement. Somehow I still use old versions of many of their plugins and no one is forcing me to update!
I don't feel the need to update if the new versions do not bring anything that will improve the quality of work. And by the way, how many companies do we have that do not make us pay for new versions? Acustica Audio, Melda, a few others are certainly nice examples, but they are not the rule.
3. It is thanks to Waves that we have such a huge drop in prices on the market. Do you think UAD and others would have given us such great deals if the market hadn't changed so much with Waves' famous $29 per plugin move years ago? It's unbelievable that people don't appreciate that. Of course they didn't do it to please us, but it's what made it so many people around the world could afford really good plugins...
Otherwise we'd still be seeing more like $199 prices
4. People sometimes go into fundamentalist mode. Yes, Waves made a terrible mistake by going subscription-only back in the day. But they fixed it in a matter of days. How many companies were able to react that quickly? And yet you still read hate comments for that move... Seriously? How many days did it take? How many years are people going to point out this mistake?
It's generally not the plugins but the skill of the engineer that makes the end result. I'd dare say there are still a lot of tracks that are still considered great mixes using Waves plugins than people realize.
If you change your computer you'll see how much pain in the ass is the process of installing the old Waves plugins and if you're using Mac you need to buy the new ones because the older versions just won't work on your OS. They charge for the updates of the same plugins with the same features, it's anti-consumer behaviour that no other company does. Waves has some classics which are great like CLA76 or L1 and I use them but as a company Waves really sucks, sorry.
BRAVO!!!❤
@@huberttorzewskiwrong still have old wave plugins they work 💯 you are a waves hater
THERES ALSO GOOD REASON WHY Look at all the UA-cam content creators headline this is a soothe 2 killer ha ha ha
@@JimmyBigJim I literally wrote that I use some of their plugins lol. Maybe 4 or 5 I use daily while mixing. But I'm not an advocate of their business practices
As always rushed review you missed tons of features. I found this plugin far superior to Soothe
Soothe2 better
Paul, yo clearly haven’t read the manual. There are advanced controls that would give you better results.
Hey, you clearly haven't seen the video in full _ i'm tweaking all the advanced settings in the second part of the vid :)
Weak resistance to observations that are far from criticism, not the first time, mate. Best...@@FoliaSound
Yeah, I'm not a waves fan 😅. Did you check out the new SpecCraft from ThreeBodyTech?
Man, I had no idea it's out :O It looks like a real Soothe2 killer :D Thanks!
I've been looking at SpecCraft I'm close to buying it as everything ThreeBodyTech create are amazing. They also confirmed that they will be selling this only on their website and PI will not be selling SpecCraft.
i like waves wave rider great show keep up the good works
Are waves becoming the Behringer of the plugin world?
Aren't they already? :D
Many great audio production engineers, who don't post on YT because they don't have time to do so,
have a completely different opinion about this plugin than you
I'm not a Waves fan so much anymore, however, for the price and getting some facsimile of the more expensive plugins, I'm sold!
how about comparison? Waves EQUATOR vs smart:EQ 4?
I am pretty sure that in a few weeks other large, well-known and globally very popular third-party providers will bring similarly good plugins onto the market, and at very interesting prices for the broad buyer base. I can happily wait that long. I don't have to jump on every new bandwagon straight away 😅
Why review a product when your mind is made up before you even start? Your review was cursory and dismissive and you didn't even try out one of the main features, the "Learn" function. I know that most reviews of this product are paid for by Waves and are not to be trusted. I came to your channel because I have come to expect honest and objective reviews from you. However, I feel that this time you didn't deliver. 😥
Spec Craft also looks very interesting.
Waves is better than Soothe. Simple check: listen to Delta. Soothe reveals broken tone, whenever Waves has a normal smoothe Delta tone. Think of the impact on the sound.
And just when you thought there won't be another one, ThreeBody tech released SpecCraft, which might be serious competition to Soothe2 😄
I'll review it today :)
@@FoliaSound will we able to see the video of the review? :-)
Okay okay I see it's already out 😄
I find myself using less waves plugins but there are a few that are in my template that just work & my client actually ask me for the sound they produce. I can say I like this one & the learn function is the real gem for this plugin & I notice you didn't use it. I use the learn & then tweak so it literally takes me a few minute to get a good sound! I always love your videos but not using all the functions of a plugin & saying its just ok doesn't seem fair.
Hey, whicha are the functions that I missed?
@@FoliaSound
You've missed the 'learn' function
@@FoliaSound This was just an observation cause I really respect your work & I also hate waves marketing!!!!
Pelo preço do EQUATOR já compensa e muito
More definition with sooth it sounds like to me
Learn function it has
There's a reason why Soothe 2 is STILL so expensive. No other resonance suppressor comes close.
Check the Delta tone of Soothe and Waves, then you know it better
Not true, this plugin is excellent and great price. You invested money in Soothe so you are biased towards it
@@lukassbeataddicts I tried both side by side and Soothe 2 wins hands down. This is more like a Smooth Operator and that thing never really worked for me. I'm not a fanboy of anything. I go with whatever does the job best. Soothe 2 will eventually be beaten, and when that will happen, I will happily invest money in the new thing. If this plug works for you, good.
No soothe 2 is just greedy!
@@JimmyBigJim I didn't say they weren't. They are. What I said is that they were the best. Until now. I've switched to Speccraft. Good thing I was on rent to own and only 2 payments in.
Looking for some info about this plugin, ended to listen a dude who cant help himself but repeating how much he hates Waves. Ok dude, we got it. You made a whole video about it apparently. Whats the point of testing the plugin if you know from the get go that you don't want it just because you hate the brand? What about not make people waste their time and listen to you venting? This is so biased and add absolutely no value. Have a good one.
I have booth, for me soothe 2 is way better, more precise and faster to fix problems.
Exactly same thoughts here.
Wrong
Waves as usual a few years late to the party...
waves as usual behind of everything. no innovation as always when it comes to waves…
Funny comment, they INVENTED audio plugins, it was not a thing before - first ever plugin was Q10 in 1992 and it cost $1000. And they were first in almost every category of plugins. When you go to any medium or large studio, music or post, they are expected to have Waves installed on all their rigs. Not saying it's a good or bad thing, just that Waves ain't going anywhere anytime soon.
@@MrBitterman75 yes at the beginning decades ago and demanding a very high price for their software, i know those times. always shady, still shady.
Such a long video with such bad examples! Who needs to tweak resonances out of a resonating guitar? AND, other youtubers have stressed the greatness of Equator to treat full mixes. Not even touched here.
Please keep company politics apart from pro sound reviews.
Good luck.
Hard to take you seriously. This was my first time seeing one of your videos. You obviously had your mind made up before you even used the software. And you did not even use all of the controls properly. Very sketchy review. Probably won't be back for more.
Yep, I'm against Waves, I find their policies scammy and against users. I believe this is my right to have my very own view on things, I don't feel like being the most accepted guy out there - I value my own space and my own opinion more than anything else, that's all. Greetings!