Rab's Midweight Insulation Showdown with the Electron Pro, Mythic Alpine, and Nebula Pro!

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @Midman1972
    @Midman1972 11 місяців тому +6

    I live in an area that just saw some record lows for January… - 24 F sans windchill. This was a perfect test for the “underdog” Electron Pro; it passed no problem, leaving me somewhat in awe.
    I owe a lot of the Electron’s superb performance to its superior fit. Neither the Neutrino or Positron fit like the Electron; they are relatively baggy.
    The Electron is the best starting point in RAB if you live in a cold climate IMO. I would really like to see it in a 30 D, but the 20 D quantum pro really is excellent vs. the wind.

    • @hectorvelez79
      @hectorvelez79 8 місяців тому +1

      I agree, the fit of Electron pro, is more body fitter type, while Positron is really baggy, in comparison, I do like both, and for extre cold, Positron can accomodates inner layering.

    • @Undisputed_King
      @Undisputed_King 10 днів тому

      That's because the other ones are designed for multiple layers underneath

  • @cbgny23
    @cbgny23 Рік тому +2

    Thanks, LOVE the showdown vids! keep 'em coming!

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  Рік тому

      More to come! Thank you so much for the support

  • @seanglennon3207
    @seanglennon3207 Рік тому +3

    Great review, helped a lot with deciding. Went for a Mythic Ultra.

  • @andrewhillis8973
    @andrewhillis8973 Місяць тому +1

    Hi , I like the Nebula or Infinity alpine .
    My main goal is to have one jacket used as an outer Layer.
    I realize they are different jackets. My objective is to have a warm jacket that is windproof / resistance as sometimes the wind makes it 100 percent worse. I have a shell if it snows, if it goes super cold I could wear a fleece underneath but based on our last couple of winters there relatively mild and we may get 2-3 weeks of -20.
    I don't mind looking at different jackets, I looked at the thorium but it's super expensive vs both of them and it seems like the nebula might be slightly warmer. Not sure what you think of arcteryx atom heavyweight seems as though it won't be a warm enough or the patagonia down hoody
    Again., my goal is one jacket for the winter, walking the dog a couple of hours a day, running errands. No big physical activity
    Any thoughts or suggestions

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  Місяць тому

      Hi just to get a little more information are you happy to layer up under the insulated jacket?

    • @andrewhillis8973
      @andrewhillis8973 Місяць тому +1

      @@tauntonleisure yes I don't mind layering , I have a arcteryx fleece and an Arc'teryx shell . ​ I have it narrowed down between the electron and Infinity Alpine , unless you change my mind :). It seems the electron will be warmer for standing around but i do like gore tex finish on the infinity . when comparing on rab site , the electron has 800 fill vs 700 for the infinity .. thoughts

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  Місяць тому

      @andrewhillis8973 I’d recommend the Infinity as your best option. It offers superior warmth, which will be crucial if you’re facing temperatures as low as -20°C, even if it’s only occasionally. Plus, as you mentioned, the GORE-TEX® Windstopper will provide excellent protection against harsh winds, helping to maintain a warmth level comparable to the Electron. It’ll also work to retain the heat your body generates, making it an even more effective barrier in extreme conditions.

    • @andrewhillis8973
      @andrewhillis8973 Місяць тому

      @@tauntonleisure thanks , just want to make sure I am talking the right jacket . Its the Infinity Microlight Jacket, correct , rabs site shows the fill power better 800 on the electron vs infinity 700. I just want to make sure I picking the right jacket for static wear. apprecite all your help .

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  Місяць тому

      @andrewhillis8973 Apologies, I thought you were asking about the Infinity Alpine Down Jacket. The Microlight won’t be nearly warm enough for temperatures as low as -20°C. While fill power is important, the total weight of insulation is a better indicator of warmth.
      At -20°C, even the Electron Jacket would struggle on its own. You’d need to layer up underneath or add a shell on top for extra protection. I’d recommend looking at the Rab Glaceon Pro Down Jacket-it offers more insulation and should keep you warmer in those extreme conditions.

  • @victortimotin5559
    @victortimotin5559 Місяць тому +1

    What is that Rab midlayer/fleece you're wearing? :)

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  29 днів тому

      That's the Rab Capacitor. I will link it here from you ... www.tauntonleisure.com/clothing-accessories/fleece-softshell/rab-mens-capacitor-pull-on--beluga__13696

  • @i-m_andre
    @i-m_andre 2 місяці тому +1

    may I ask you infos about the Microlight Alpine?

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  2 місяці тому

      Of course what would you like to know?

    • @i-m_andre
      @i-m_andre 2 місяці тому

      @@tauntonleisure is it less valid than the Mythic Alpine??? It has only 700cuin :(

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  2 місяці тому

      @@i-m_andre The mythic is the more superior product. Its lighter and warmer with a smaller packsize. But It depends on what you intend to use it for and what you want to spend.

    • @i-m_andre
      @i-m_andre 2 місяці тому

      @@tauntonleisure well, i would like to use it for the PCT (but just in the camps, i dont like to use a down jacket while walking/trekking ) and for a day-use.

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  2 місяці тому

      ​@@i-m_andre I would imagine that pack size and warmth-to-weight ratio are important considerations. If that's the case, I would recommend looking into the RAB Mythic Alpine, as it excels in both these areas.

  • @heyyoyof
    @heyyoyof 5 місяців тому +2

    Hello. I want to buy a jacket for use in mountaineering. I looked Electron pro and microlight alpine jacket. I Decamped between the two. Which one do you recommend. Thank you

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  5 місяців тому +1

      The Electron Pro offers more warmth, making it an ideal choice for staying cozy both while walking and as a warm layer at camp. However, if you're looking for a jacket to use as part of your layering system throughout the day, especially under a waterproof shell, the Microlight is a better option due to its lower profile and streamlined fit.

    • @heyyoyof
      @heyyoyof 5 місяців тому

      @@tauntonleisure Thank you for your reply. I'm looking to use it under a shell. Actually, I was thinking if the electron pro would also be under the shell, because I was also afraid of getting cold. Is the microlight enough for heating?

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  5 місяців тому

      ​@@heyyoyof You could use the Electron Pro under a waterproof jacket, but it is bulkier than the Microlight, so it depends on the fit of your outer layer. If the fit is too snug with the Electron Pro, the down won’t achieve its optimal loft and insulation. Unfortunately, it's tough to give a definitive answer since everyone experiences cold differently. If you are worried about getting cold, it might be safer to go with the Electron Pro. The Microlight is a great option for use with a waterproof jacket, and when layered correctly, it can perform well in colder conditions while you're active. However, it might not provide enough warmth when you're standing still. If you tend to run warm, the Microlight could be an excellent part of your layering system.

    • @heyyoyof
      @heyyoyof 5 місяців тому

      @@tauntonleisure Thank you for your reply. I will use my preference in favor of microlight. I'm also going to ask a question about shell jackets. What do you think about Marmot minimalist pro? Do you have a review video about shell jackets? Unfortunately, I didn't see it.

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  5 місяців тому

      ​ @heyyoyof Unfortunately, we don't carry Marmot's clothing, so I haven't had the opportunity to test it. We tend to focus on brands like Mountain Equipment, Rab, and Montane for our professional-grade shells.

  • @FreakWithAMustache
    @FreakWithAMustache Місяць тому +1

    do you think mythic alpine would be enough with some polartec 120g in -5c in campsite ?

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  Місяць тому

      Providing a temperature range can be tricky, as everyone experiences cold differently. With some good layers underneath and perhaps a shell on top, this jacket might work for you. However, for those temperatures, you may find something thicker with more insulation more suitable especially if its for sitting still at your camp. Would you like some recommendations?

    • @FreakWithAMustache
      @FreakWithAMustache Місяць тому +2

      @@tauntonleisure I already went with Electron Pro which is unfortunately a bit heavier but should be warmer

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  Місяць тому

      @@FreakWithAMustache A great choice, you'll have an increase in weight but you also gain an increase in warmth and durability!

  • @yusaidit5311
    @yusaidit5311 Рік тому +1

    Hi, could you comment on a recommended temperature range for the mythic alpine when static and when moving?

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  Рік тому

      Unfortunately, Rab does not offer a temperature range for its jacket and it would be really difficult to give you an accurate answer. This is due to a number of factors such as tolerance to cold, activity level, wind, humidity, layering, and personal comfort preferences.

  • @msmithy1987
    @msmithy1987 Рік тому +1

    Very useful, thanks

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  Рік тому

      Glad it was helpful! If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask

  • @manuelgomez9730
    @manuelgomez9730 Рік тому +1

    the electron pro would be enough to be still taking pictures at temperatures like -7 Celsius degrees? of course with warm underwear shirts and pants

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  Рік тому +2

      You would need a good layering system under it. You could look at going warmer like the Neutrino Pro this with a few layers would definitely be up to the task

    • @manuelgomez9730
      @manuelgomez9730 Рік тому

      hmm I see. ill be around 0 Celsius sometimes so it will rain. and I think neutrino would be to bulky to put a rain shell on?@@tauntonleisure

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  Рік тому +1

      Tough one. In that case the Electron maybe the better balance.

    • @manuelgomez9730
      @manuelgomez9730 Рік тому

      hmm I see, ill have a look on. both jackets anyways. thanks!!@@tauntonleisure

  • @jamesirvine711
    @jamesirvine711 Рік тому +1

    is there much difference in warmth between the nebula pro and electron pro? thanks

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  Рік тому

      Temperatures between the 2 would be very similar. The Electron Pro being down would regulate your temperature better but be more susceptible in damp conditions.

  • @michaeld1846
    @michaeld1846 Рік тому +1

    What colour have you got there of the nebula? Thanks

  • @billygrey9235
    @billygrey9235 Рік тому +1

    How tall are you and what size are you wearing?

    • @tauntonleisure
      @tauntonleisure  Рік тому +1

      Hi, 5ft 7 wearing a size small

    • @The45boca
      @The45boca Рік тому

      @@tauntonleisure you said medium in the video

    • @daniellee8811
      @daniellee8811 11 місяців тому +1

      Great review! Is Mythic g jacket better than the previous models?

    • @michael-bell
      @michael-bell 29 днів тому +1

      ​@@daniellee8811 I actually think the Mythic G is a less superior jacket than the Mythic Alpine. It may be more expensive and lighter, and filled with 1,000 fill down with a reflective inner lining, but if you look carefully at the technical details of the Mythic G, it doesn't have a DWR coating for rain, nor does it have the durability of the special material used in the Mythic Alpine for the outer shell

    • @Undisputed_King
      @Undisputed_King 10 днів тому

      ​@@michael-bell I agree

  • @AlanMETALMAN
    @AlanMETALMAN Рік тому +4

    To be honest despite the claims of additional weather resistance, I would never wear any of these jackets out in the rain, always user a proper over waterproof jacket, over the top of these. I am a big fan of Rab but they are so overpriced, so always got to look at a sale price to purchase any Rab gear. About a year ago I did a comparison video with a Rab and Tog 24 Down Jackets, both of which I own and despite them both being great, with a higher tog fill, more robust zips and half the price I concluded the Tog 24 the better value jacket, despite it having it's own flaws too. Very interesting watch, 3 great looking jackets, each with their own merits, so will have a look at the price of each of them, cheers Alan

    • @andrewhayes9913
      @andrewhayes9913 Рік тому +4

      Rab are def pricing themselves out of market. Good stuff but during a cost of living crisis they could have kept prices competitive. Making exploring the outdoors exclusively for more affluent people. Sad reallu

    • @AlanMETALMAN
      @AlanMETALMAN Рік тому

      @@andrewhayes9913 - very good points 👍

    • @ipodgooroo
      @ipodgooroo Рік тому +2

      Rab gear is expensive, yes. It does last though. I've got a few of their jackets that are 6/7 years old and show very little signs of wear, whereas I've had plenty of tog24 gear that is knackered after the first season (especially their new stuff - fashion over function). It is always worth waiting for sales for most outdoor gear though, there is almost always some sort of discount going around

    • @luap1983
      @luap1983 Рік тому

      I’ve been looking at the tog24 but not many reviews out there! Can I ask what model down jacket you got?

    • @Cornwall1888
      @Cornwall1888 Рік тому +3

      ⁠@@luap1983I have a tog 24 drax down jacket, it’s super soft, super warm and super light
      I doubt it has hydrophobic down like rab jackets though
      I had a £50 voucher so only cost me £30 for what’s basically a microlight with even better insulation it’s 800 fill power