I live in an area that just saw some record lows for January… - 24 F sans windchill. This was a perfect test for the “underdog” Electron Pro; it passed no problem, leaving me somewhat in awe. I owe a lot of the Electron’s superb performance to its superior fit. Neither the Neutrino or Positron fit like the Electron; they are relatively baggy. The Electron is the best starting point in RAB if you live in a cold climate IMO. I would really like to see it in a 30 D, but the 20 D quantum pro really is excellent vs. the wind.
I agree, the fit of Electron pro, is more body fitter type, while Positron is really baggy, in comparison, I do like both, and for extre cold, Positron can accomodates inner layering.
Hi , I like the Nebula or Infinity alpine . My main goal is to have one jacket used as an outer Layer. I realize they are different jackets. My objective is to have a warm jacket that is windproof / resistance as sometimes the wind makes it 100 percent worse. I have a shell if it snows, if it goes super cold I could wear a fleece underneath but based on our last couple of winters there relatively mild and we may get 2-3 weeks of -20. I don't mind looking at different jackets, I looked at the thorium but it's super expensive vs both of them and it seems like the nebula might be slightly warmer. Not sure what you think of arcteryx atom heavyweight seems as though it won't be a warm enough or the patagonia down hoody Again., my goal is one jacket for the winter, walking the dog a couple of hours a day, running errands. No big physical activity Any thoughts or suggestions
@@tauntonleisure yes I don't mind layering , I have a arcteryx fleece and an Arc'teryx shell . I have it narrowed down between the electron and Infinity Alpine , unless you change my mind :). It seems the electron will be warmer for standing around but i do like gore tex finish on the infinity . when comparing on rab site , the electron has 800 fill vs 700 for the infinity .. thoughts
@andrewhillis8973 I’d recommend the Infinity as your best option. It offers superior warmth, which will be crucial if you’re facing temperatures as low as -20°C, even if it’s only occasionally. Plus, as you mentioned, the GORE-TEX® Windstopper will provide excellent protection against harsh winds, helping to maintain a warmth level comparable to the Electron. It’ll also work to retain the heat your body generates, making it an even more effective barrier in extreme conditions.
@@tauntonleisure thanks , just want to make sure I am talking the right jacket . Its the Infinity Microlight Jacket, correct , rabs site shows the fill power better 800 on the electron vs infinity 700. I just want to make sure I picking the right jacket for static wear. apprecite all your help .
@andrewhillis8973 Apologies, I thought you were asking about the Infinity Alpine Down Jacket. The Microlight won’t be nearly warm enough for temperatures as low as -20°C. While fill power is important, the total weight of insulation is a better indicator of warmth. At -20°C, even the Electron Jacket would struggle on its own. You’d need to layer up underneath or add a shell on top for extra protection. I’d recommend looking at the Rab Glaceon Pro Down Jacket-it offers more insulation and should keep you warmer in those extreme conditions.
That's the Rab Capacitor. I will link it here from you ... www.tauntonleisure.com/clothing-accessories/fleece-softshell/rab-mens-capacitor-pull-on--beluga__13696
@@i-m_andre The mythic is the more superior product. Its lighter and warmer with a smaller packsize. But It depends on what you intend to use it for and what you want to spend.
@@tauntonleisure well, i would like to use it for the PCT (but just in the camps, i dont like to use a down jacket while walking/trekking ) and for a day-use.
@@i-m_andre I would imagine that pack size and warmth-to-weight ratio are important considerations. If that's the case, I would recommend looking into the RAB Mythic Alpine, as it excels in both these areas.
Hello. I want to buy a jacket for use in mountaineering. I looked Electron pro and microlight alpine jacket. I Decamped between the two. Which one do you recommend. Thank you
The Electron Pro offers more warmth, making it an ideal choice for staying cozy both while walking and as a warm layer at camp. However, if you're looking for a jacket to use as part of your layering system throughout the day, especially under a waterproof shell, the Microlight is a better option due to its lower profile and streamlined fit.
@@tauntonleisure Thank you for your reply. I'm looking to use it under a shell. Actually, I was thinking if the electron pro would also be under the shell, because I was also afraid of getting cold. Is the microlight enough for heating?
@@heyyoyof You could use the Electron Pro under a waterproof jacket, but it is bulkier than the Microlight, so it depends on the fit of your outer layer. If the fit is too snug with the Electron Pro, the down won’t achieve its optimal loft and insulation. Unfortunately, it's tough to give a definitive answer since everyone experiences cold differently. If you are worried about getting cold, it might be safer to go with the Electron Pro. The Microlight is a great option for use with a waterproof jacket, and when layered correctly, it can perform well in colder conditions while you're active. However, it might not provide enough warmth when you're standing still. If you tend to run warm, the Microlight could be an excellent part of your layering system.
@@tauntonleisure Thank you for your reply. I will use my preference in favor of microlight. I'm also going to ask a question about shell jackets. What do you think about Marmot minimalist pro? Do you have a review video about shell jackets? Unfortunately, I didn't see it.
@heyyoyof Unfortunately, we don't carry Marmot's clothing, so I haven't had the opportunity to test it. We tend to focus on brands like Mountain Equipment, Rab, and Montane for our professional-grade shells.
Providing a temperature range can be tricky, as everyone experiences cold differently. With some good layers underneath and perhaps a shell on top, this jacket might work for you. However, for those temperatures, you may find something thicker with more insulation more suitable especially if its for sitting still at your camp. Would you like some recommendations?
Unfortunately, Rab does not offer a temperature range for its jacket and it would be really difficult to give you an accurate answer. This is due to a number of factors such as tolerance to cold, activity level, wind, humidity, layering, and personal comfort preferences.
You would need a good layering system under it. You could look at going warmer like the Neutrino Pro this with a few layers would definitely be up to the task
Temperatures between the 2 would be very similar. The Electron Pro being down would regulate your temperature better but be more susceptible in damp conditions.
@@daniellee8811 I actually think the Mythic G is a less superior jacket than the Mythic Alpine. It may be more expensive and lighter, and filled with 1,000 fill down with a reflective inner lining, but if you look carefully at the technical details of the Mythic G, it doesn't have a DWR coating for rain, nor does it have the durability of the special material used in the Mythic Alpine for the outer shell
To be honest despite the claims of additional weather resistance, I would never wear any of these jackets out in the rain, always user a proper over waterproof jacket, over the top of these. I am a big fan of Rab but they are so overpriced, so always got to look at a sale price to purchase any Rab gear. About a year ago I did a comparison video with a Rab and Tog 24 Down Jackets, both of which I own and despite them both being great, with a higher tog fill, more robust zips and half the price I concluded the Tog 24 the better value jacket, despite it having it's own flaws too. Very interesting watch, 3 great looking jackets, each with their own merits, so will have a look at the price of each of them, cheers Alan
Rab are def pricing themselves out of market. Good stuff but during a cost of living crisis they could have kept prices competitive. Making exploring the outdoors exclusively for more affluent people. Sad reallu
Rab gear is expensive, yes. It does last though. I've got a few of their jackets that are 6/7 years old and show very little signs of wear, whereas I've had plenty of tog24 gear that is knackered after the first season (especially their new stuff - fashion over function). It is always worth waiting for sales for most outdoor gear though, there is almost always some sort of discount going around
@@luap1983I have a tog 24 drax down jacket, it’s super soft, super warm and super light I doubt it has hydrophobic down like rab jackets though I had a £50 voucher so only cost me £30 for what’s basically a microlight with even better insulation it’s 800 fill power
I live in an area that just saw some record lows for January… - 24 F sans windchill. This was a perfect test for the “underdog” Electron Pro; it passed no problem, leaving me somewhat in awe.
I owe a lot of the Electron’s superb performance to its superior fit. Neither the Neutrino or Positron fit like the Electron; they are relatively baggy.
The Electron is the best starting point in RAB if you live in a cold climate IMO. I would really like to see it in a 30 D, but the 20 D quantum pro really is excellent vs. the wind.
I agree, the fit of Electron pro, is more body fitter type, while Positron is really baggy, in comparison, I do like both, and for extre cold, Positron can accomodates inner layering.
That's because the other ones are designed for multiple layers underneath
Thanks, LOVE the showdown vids! keep 'em coming!
More to come! Thank you so much for the support
Great review, helped a lot with deciding. Went for a Mythic Ultra.
Great choice! Enjoy using it!!
Hi , I like the Nebula or Infinity alpine .
My main goal is to have one jacket used as an outer Layer.
I realize they are different jackets. My objective is to have a warm jacket that is windproof / resistance as sometimes the wind makes it 100 percent worse. I have a shell if it snows, if it goes super cold I could wear a fleece underneath but based on our last couple of winters there relatively mild and we may get 2-3 weeks of -20.
I don't mind looking at different jackets, I looked at the thorium but it's super expensive vs both of them and it seems like the nebula might be slightly warmer. Not sure what you think of arcteryx atom heavyweight seems as though it won't be a warm enough or the patagonia down hoody
Again., my goal is one jacket for the winter, walking the dog a couple of hours a day, running errands. No big physical activity
Any thoughts or suggestions
Hi just to get a little more information are you happy to layer up under the insulated jacket?
@@tauntonleisure yes I don't mind layering , I have a arcteryx fleece and an Arc'teryx shell . I have it narrowed down between the electron and Infinity Alpine , unless you change my mind :). It seems the electron will be warmer for standing around but i do like gore tex finish on the infinity . when comparing on rab site , the electron has 800 fill vs 700 for the infinity .. thoughts
@andrewhillis8973 I’d recommend the Infinity as your best option. It offers superior warmth, which will be crucial if you’re facing temperatures as low as -20°C, even if it’s only occasionally. Plus, as you mentioned, the GORE-TEX® Windstopper will provide excellent protection against harsh winds, helping to maintain a warmth level comparable to the Electron. It’ll also work to retain the heat your body generates, making it an even more effective barrier in extreme conditions.
@@tauntonleisure thanks , just want to make sure I am talking the right jacket . Its the Infinity Microlight Jacket, correct , rabs site shows the fill power better 800 on the electron vs infinity 700. I just want to make sure I picking the right jacket for static wear. apprecite all your help .
@andrewhillis8973 Apologies, I thought you were asking about the Infinity Alpine Down Jacket. The Microlight won’t be nearly warm enough for temperatures as low as -20°C. While fill power is important, the total weight of insulation is a better indicator of warmth.
At -20°C, even the Electron Jacket would struggle on its own. You’d need to layer up underneath or add a shell on top for extra protection. I’d recommend looking at the Rab Glaceon Pro Down Jacket-it offers more insulation and should keep you warmer in those extreme conditions.
What is that Rab midlayer/fleece you're wearing? :)
That's the Rab Capacitor. I will link it here from you ... www.tauntonleisure.com/clothing-accessories/fleece-softshell/rab-mens-capacitor-pull-on--beluga__13696
may I ask you infos about the Microlight Alpine?
Of course what would you like to know?
@@tauntonleisure is it less valid than the Mythic Alpine??? It has only 700cuin :(
@@i-m_andre The mythic is the more superior product. Its lighter and warmer with a smaller packsize. But It depends on what you intend to use it for and what you want to spend.
@@tauntonleisure well, i would like to use it for the PCT (but just in the camps, i dont like to use a down jacket while walking/trekking ) and for a day-use.
@@i-m_andre I would imagine that pack size and warmth-to-weight ratio are important considerations. If that's the case, I would recommend looking into the RAB Mythic Alpine, as it excels in both these areas.
Hello. I want to buy a jacket for use in mountaineering. I looked Electron pro and microlight alpine jacket. I Decamped between the two. Which one do you recommend. Thank you
The Electron Pro offers more warmth, making it an ideal choice for staying cozy both while walking and as a warm layer at camp. However, if you're looking for a jacket to use as part of your layering system throughout the day, especially under a waterproof shell, the Microlight is a better option due to its lower profile and streamlined fit.
@@tauntonleisure Thank you for your reply. I'm looking to use it under a shell. Actually, I was thinking if the electron pro would also be under the shell, because I was also afraid of getting cold. Is the microlight enough for heating?
@@heyyoyof You could use the Electron Pro under a waterproof jacket, but it is bulkier than the Microlight, so it depends on the fit of your outer layer. If the fit is too snug with the Electron Pro, the down won’t achieve its optimal loft and insulation. Unfortunately, it's tough to give a definitive answer since everyone experiences cold differently. If you are worried about getting cold, it might be safer to go with the Electron Pro. The Microlight is a great option for use with a waterproof jacket, and when layered correctly, it can perform well in colder conditions while you're active. However, it might not provide enough warmth when you're standing still. If you tend to run warm, the Microlight could be an excellent part of your layering system.
@@tauntonleisure Thank you for your reply. I will use my preference in favor of microlight. I'm also going to ask a question about shell jackets. What do you think about Marmot minimalist pro? Do you have a review video about shell jackets? Unfortunately, I didn't see it.
@heyyoyof Unfortunately, we don't carry Marmot's clothing, so I haven't had the opportunity to test it. We tend to focus on brands like Mountain Equipment, Rab, and Montane for our professional-grade shells.
do you think mythic alpine would be enough with some polartec 120g in -5c in campsite ?
Providing a temperature range can be tricky, as everyone experiences cold differently. With some good layers underneath and perhaps a shell on top, this jacket might work for you. However, for those temperatures, you may find something thicker with more insulation more suitable especially if its for sitting still at your camp. Would you like some recommendations?
@@tauntonleisure I already went with Electron Pro which is unfortunately a bit heavier but should be warmer
@@FreakWithAMustache A great choice, you'll have an increase in weight but you also gain an increase in warmth and durability!
Hi, could you comment on a recommended temperature range for the mythic alpine when static and when moving?
Unfortunately, Rab does not offer a temperature range for its jacket and it would be really difficult to give you an accurate answer. This is due to a number of factors such as tolerance to cold, activity level, wind, humidity, layering, and personal comfort preferences.
Very useful, thanks
Glad it was helpful! If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask
the electron pro would be enough to be still taking pictures at temperatures like -7 Celsius degrees? of course with warm underwear shirts and pants
You would need a good layering system under it. You could look at going warmer like the Neutrino Pro this with a few layers would definitely be up to the task
hmm I see. ill be around 0 Celsius sometimes so it will rain. and I think neutrino would be to bulky to put a rain shell on?@@tauntonleisure
Tough one. In that case the Electron maybe the better balance.
hmm I see, ill have a look on. both jackets anyways. thanks!!@@tauntonleisure
is there much difference in warmth between the nebula pro and electron pro? thanks
Temperatures between the 2 would be very similar. The Electron Pro being down would regulate your temperature better but be more susceptible in damp conditions.
What colour have you got there of the nebula? Thanks
Hi, Mens is in Beluga ladies is Orion Blue
How tall are you and what size are you wearing?
Hi, 5ft 7 wearing a size small
@@tauntonleisure you said medium in the video
Great review! Is Mythic g jacket better than the previous models?
@@daniellee8811 I actually think the Mythic G is a less superior jacket than the Mythic Alpine. It may be more expensive and lighter, and filled with 1,000 fill down with a reflective inner lining, but if you look carefully at the technical details of the Mythic G, it doesn't have a DWR coating for rain, nor does it have the durability of the special material used in the Mythic Alpine for the outer shell
@@michael-bell I agree
To be honest despite the claims of additional weather resistance, I would never wear any of these jackets out in the rain, always user a proper over waterproof jacket, over the top of these. I am a big fan of Rab but they are so overpriced, so always got to look at a sale price to purchase any Rab gear. About a year ago I did a comparison video with a Rab and Tog 24 Down Jackets, both of which I own and despite them both being great, with a higher tog fill, more robust zips and half the price I concluded the Tog 24 the better value jacket, despite it having it's own flaws too. Very interesting watch, 3 great looking jackets, each with their own merits, so will have a look at the price of each of them, cheers Alan
Rab are def pricing themselves out of market. Good stuff but during a cost of living crisis they could have kept prices competitive. Making exploring the outdoors exclusively for more affluent people. Sad reallu
@@andrewhayes9913 - very good points 👍
Rab gear is expensive, yes. It does last though. I've got a few of their jackets that are 6/7 years old and show very little signs of wear, whereas I've had plenty of tog24 gear that is knackered after the first season (especially their new stuff - fashion over function). It is always worth waiting for sales for most outdoor gear though, there is almost always some sort of discount going around
I’ve been looking at the tog24 but not many reviews out there! Can I ask what model down jacket you got?
@@luap1983I have a tog 24 drax down jacket, it’s super soft, super warm and super light
I doubt it has hydrophobic down like rab jackets though
I had a £50 voucher so only cost me £30 for what’s basically a microlight with even better insulation it’s 800 fill power