Inside Look: Rab Nebula Pro Jacket
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- You'd be forgiven for thinking the Nebula looks like a down jacket. It looks, feels and performs extremely similarly, however, the main difference is the Nebula features a fully synthetic insulation, making it a brilliant jacket for our typically wet and cold UK mountain conditions.
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00:00 - Intro
01:01 - What is the Nebula Pro?
02:07 - What is it made of?
06:38 - What are its features?
08:42 - How does it fit?
10:06 - Where does it fit in the layering system?
11:30 - Summary
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I am a jacket person, I was equipment officer for a well known MRT in Scotland. This is by far the best gear review I have ever seen. You covered every aspect superbly and I am now glad i bought one. 10/10.
Hey Sam, thanks for the kind words, we'll keep doing what we're doing! Harry
this is the best gear review video I've ever seen! thanks mate 🙌 I'm ordering my jacket now for mountain adventures in Canada
Thanks very much!
By far, the absolute best review online of this jacket. Thanks for taking the time to do such a thorough review. subscribed :)
Thank you!
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Great review as always Paul. Just purchased one for the wife and I. Not matching colours though as that wouldn’t be cool 😆. Looks like the perfect coat for my winter mountain adventures
Good choice Anthony, and very wise to avoid the very uncool Mr and Mrs matching coats thing. Thanks for watching. Paul.
Great review, just bought one from your site. Many thanks
Thanks for the support!
Thanks for identifying the other pieces of kit you are wearing now.
Hi, Harry must take the credit for that! Thanks for watching. Paul.
Great. Just received mine today and I’m so far very happy in red colour too. 😀 it is extremely warm
Great choice! The Nebula is super warm. Maybe you'll look as good as I do in that red colour ; ) Paul.
Thanks for taking time out to review this jacket. I received mine yesterday - it’s such a quality piece of Rab clothing for the winter. 👍🏾
Glad we could help - enjoy.
Good review. Especially liked the "where does it fit in the layering system" section. Ordered a Patagonia Nano Puff which turned out to be less warm than I was looking for but this jacket seems more up to it.
The Nebula is far more substantial if you're after a load more warmth!
My wife wears it under a Rab Arc Eco shell jacket for skiing. We live in Norway so it's generally colder here than in the UK.
Helpful vid!
Thanks for watching. Paul.
Ahhh. I might use this to double as an everyday winter coat, belay for hikes/camping.
Good plan!
Thanks for review. Today I tried this jacket on and I found really well designed to my body shape. Not too tight under armpit, good sleeve length. I just felt a hood little too big but fully adjustable so it is no a huge issue. Possibly I will buy it soon. Just curious how compressible this jacket is. Of course it can not be as good as down jacket.
Hi, you're right that the Nebula wont pack down as small as a comparable down jacket, but its pros outweigh those cons! I suspect that you could get it packed into a Medium Exped Fold Drysack - www.trekitt.co.uk/equipment/storage/exped-fold-drybag-bs-m__35357
loove your videos. I'm between Nebula Pro and ME Superflux. I'm thinking about which will be warmer and more comfortable for every day but going hiking as well. I live in Pirinees so the weather is quite cold. Thanks a lot for your reviews
Both are great choices. Ben has a slight preference for the Superflux, whereas Paul is a fan of the Nebula Pro. The Nebula has a slightly more relaxed fit, but otherwise they're very similar jackets, means you can pick based on style preferences too. Unofficial Rule #1 - Look Good!
Was thinking about getting this jacket and the videos has convinced me. Unfortunately I wont be getting it from Trekitt as they dont have a DDS discount but Go Outdoors do but I will bear them in mind next time I'm in the market for some outside gear and have sub'd to the channel.
Hi, I'm so glad that you found our channel helpful and that it was so informative as to convince you of the suitability of this jacket. We take a great pride in our work and strive to offer the best service and information, so, I hope that you will feel able to support our independent and family owned business in future.
I'm currently looking into the Nebula and the Neutrino Jacket by Rab. I like that the Nebula is synthetic (for ethical reasons) but i don't know if it is just "enough" for what i need. I mostly would use as a hiking jacket in the alps. I dont do anything too extreme though, so i'm not sure with which of them to get with...
The Neutrino is quite a bit warmer but doesn't cope with damp conditions as well, so I guess it depends how warm you need to be and whether the insulation's wet weather performance matters to you. I'd probably lean more towards the Nebula for active use. Harry
A great video yet again. I am considering one of these, but i was wondering about how they are washed? Do they get washed as per normal sheet type insulated jackets, or do they need to be washed / dried in the same way as down? TIA
The Nebula Pro can be washed as you would wash any synthetic jacket. Please use a proper “detergent” such as Nikwax Tech Wash. if you need to replenish the DWR a spray on is best, such as Nikwax TX Direct. Wash on a gentle cycle no hotter then 40 degrees Celsius. The jacket can then be air dried. Thanks for watching. Paul.
Which is warmer, this or the Infinity Light? Loving the 4K quality by the way, watching on my 12.9” iPad Pro
I'd say the Infinity Light is warmer thanks to the combination of the super high quality 800 fill-power down and Infinium membrane. Thanks for the compliments on the quality, too; glad to know it's not unnoticed! Kind regards, Harry.
Another great video! How does this compare to the mountain equipment lightline?
Hi Ritchie. I'm assuming that want to know how the Nebula Pro compares in warmth to the Lightline? I'd say that they were pretty similar, but the big difference is in wet weather performance. The Nebula has synthetic fill and will perform better in damp/wet conditions. Paul.
@@trekitt perfect thanks a lot for the advice! Keep up the good work on the videos 👍
please do a review of the Acrux TR GTX boots id love to see what they are like
We'll pop it on the list! Harry.
Love the videos and the site they don’t do many deals tbh tho like the sales
Hey Jamie, we almost always have voucher codes available for various brands/products; at the moment we've got a 10% off Arc'teryx code. There's a grey bar on the website which, on the far right, says 'voucher codes' - periodically check here and you'll get some additional discounts every now and then. Kind regards, Harry.
@@trekitt thanks mate
Great video. I already have a down midlayer, but I’m looking for something more substantial for when I’m traveling in the midwest. If you had to estimate, how low could the temperature be without getting chills- assuming you’ve layered a base layer and fleece underneath? I have an average cold comfort level.
This jacket seems to have great value for the price since it’s synthetic.
That's such a hard question to answer as there are far too many variables that affect you "warm" you may feel. Check out our video on the subject here ua-cam.com/video/HvukvCzkGW0/v-deo.html
Great review as always Sir & I need some help, What jacket would recommend that's really warm & keeps you dry if it rains in the UK & for a late night winter walk with the dog or walk home from the pub without load of layers underneath, This looks good or I was maybe going to go for the mountain equipment lightline down jacket????
As long as it is a light rain (not the kind that drench you to the bone), I think the Lightline from ME would be a good choice. I am sure Paul will reply, but I think you can’t go wrong that choice. Just keep in mind that down is best when you will be in drier conditions because moisture can cause the down to deloft.
Hi Stephen. The Nebula Pro would work well for your intended use, but bear in mind that if it is raining heavily, some water may seep in through the seams, as the jacket is not 100% waterproof. You may want to consider the Rab Valiance
www.trekitt.co.uk/33918/products/rab-mens-valiance-jacket-black.aspx
as it is both warm and waterpoof.
Great review.i'd like to ask you,what is the maximum altitude with this jacket, you think, you can be comfortable with?
That's an incredibly difficult question to answer as there are so many variables to consider. Manufacturers do not give a "maximum altitude" as it depends on what you are doing, where you are doing it, when you are doing it, what the conditions are like, and your own physiology.
Great video as ever, I’m looking for a good belay jacket that will fit over my hard shell, how does this compare to the Rab Altus? I’m guessing warmer however also fit wise ? My Altus isn’t big enough to fit comfortably over everything as it is quite tight at the hem.thx, Greg
Hi Greg. The Nebula Pro is much warmer than the Altus and has a more relaxed fit, especially for belay jacket duties. Paul.
@@trekitt great thanks Paul will check it out 👍
When did this version of the jacket come out? & How cold do you think you could be in this with a wool base layer? Static
This is the winter 2020 version and it's impossible to answer to your other question as there are just too many variables that affect "warmth".
Hi Paul thanks for all the hard work involved in bringing us yet another great video. My question, if I may, is this. Is this a mark 2 jacket? I’ve had mine for a little over a year but it doesn’t look like the one you’re reviewing! Checking the internal tag it says Nebula Pro Jacket follow by the No. Q10-25. On the outside by the left hand pocket it reads Cirrus and by the right hand pocket it reads Pertex Quantumpro. In looks it looks like Microlite Alpine and doesn’t have the ‘Chevron’ tubes like the one you are wearing! Any ideas what’s going on??! Kind regards from Clive in deepest Dorset.
Hey Clive, you've got the previous version. The one in this video is a little slimmer, has some different baffle designs and uses the new Cirrus HL (high loft) insulation. Kind regards, Harry.
Great video review, I am personally looking at making my carp fishing winter clothing lighter. I know you mentioned it is great when stationary. I spend the majority of fishing stationary just wondering if this would be suitable ?
Something like this would definitely be suitable, depending on how cold it is where you're carp fishing you might need to consider your baselayer options as well, but the Nebula would be a great choice.
@@trekitt Thanks again for the video and the advice on this jacket. I bought one in the end not used it out fishing yet as been stuck indoors with Covid. Looks great and probably 4xLighter than my winter fishing jacket. Im ex forces so used to the base layering system. Thanks again for the review !!!
Hope you get back out and enjoying your new jacket soon!
How does this compare to the Atom AR? Thinking about getting one of these. The Nebula is considerably less expensive (I can get it for $185USD right now), but I think Arcteryx will have a 25% off Black Friday sale which will drop the Atom AR down to $225. Just looking for a highly insulated synthetic jacket that is comfortable/easy to wear and maintain without going to full winter jacket mode.
The main difference is the Atom uses sheet insulation whereas the Nebula uses blown. We've got a good video explaining the differences here: ua-cam.com/video/-B8rdanRkjQ/v-deo.html
Yeah I think this is what im looking for. A Welsh, Scottish wet weather mid layer for the winter. Has a stuff sack and is stylish. Either this ir the anti freeze jacket from Montane. Im really stuck with a good decision on this. Any other suggestions? We were doing the 3 peaks and the first mountain was 50 mph gusts and driving rain. It was very cold and the wet got everywhere. Thankgod werent in the real winter and it wasnt higher mountains in Scotland. So need a good really warm mid layer that resists wet very well, and can be thrown in the backpack.
I think the haglofs mimic platinum is the best one after some watching of your vids, which I enjoy by the way. I already have one of their jackets and they are superb, no exaggeration!
The Anti-Freeze won't be suitable if you're going to be out in horrendously wet conditions. It's best in dry, cold conditions with little moisture ideally. The Mountain Equipment Superflux would be a good option to consider. I'll pop a link below. Harry
www.trekitt.co.uk/clothing/jackets/mountain-equipment-mens-superflux-jacket-medieval-blue__42860
@@trekitt thanks so much as always, cheers
I've had a look at the pack sizes of this jacket and it is indeed a little bulky, is there another synthetic insulated jacket that is comparable in warmth that packs a little smaller that you can recommend?
Hi Anton. All synthetic jackets of similar warmth will have similar pack sizes due to the physical amount of insulation. The differences are going to be marginal at best, so if pack size and low weight are your priority I suggest you look at a down insulated jacket. If wet weather performance is you priority have a look at the Arcteryx Atom AR - www.trekitt.co.uk/facetresults.aspx?Term=Atom%20ar
I think this would work well for the Pacific Northwest of the US. How does Cirrus HL compare to PrimaLoft Gold that Patagonia uses? Thanks!
HI, I think it would work well too! Cirrus HL is a blown insulation that mimics natural down clusters, while Primaloft Gold is a sheet insulation. Blown insulation lofts better and warms up quicker, packs down smaller and is more breathable. Sheet insulation resists compression better, is more weather resistant and more stable. It really is a case of "horses-for-courses" depending on your needs and the environment the jacket will be used in. I hope that helps. Paul.
@@trekitt did the last season version of the Nebula use sheet insulation?
For UK winter hillwalking, what jacket would you recommend having in your rucksack to sling on over the top of everything else for rest stops or forced stops due to injury - something like this, the Montane Fluxmatic or something else?
Hi Claire, you said it yourself, the Rab Nebula Pro works really well as a "belay jacket". Alternatives would be jackets such as M.E Citadel, Marmot WarmCube Featherless, Arcteryx Atom AR etc. As a guide, look for insulation fill weight of around 200g/sqm. I hope that helps. Paul.
@@trekitt Thanks Paul.
hi trekkit !!!
i want to know which jacket should be good for trekking and mountaineering at 6500m Himalayas ( -25C) with layering
Hi, there’s a lot of choice nowadays for expedition clothing, check out our selection here - www.trekitt.co.uk/expedition/clothing.
Hi Paul! Is this jacket warmer than the Thorium AR? Looking for a jacket that’s even warmer than my Arc’teryx one, to walk my dogs in frigid cold. Thank you :)
It's fairly similar; the biggest difference is the Nebula uses a synthetic insulation whereas the Thorium uses natural down. Regards, Harry.
Will the synthetic high loft filling compress overtime and stay compressed like down does? I do alot of driving and don't what the back to go flat and stay flat like down jackets do.
Synthetic insulation will resist compression better than down. It's still a good idea to keep it unstuffed if you can, but it'll definitely be better. Harry
Hi Paul, I recently bought this jacket on a different website and it says primaloft insulated instead of cirrus insulation, do you know anything about this?
It may well have Primaloft as Rab are slowly introducing branded insulation into their range for Spring/Summer and have already released some product. The performance is virtually identical to Cirrus and there would be no tangible difference between a Cirrus and a Primaloft filled jacket.
Hi, I've been looking for a warm synthetic jacket for mountaineering. In your opinion which would be the warmest, Montane Spitifire, Mountain Equipment Citadel or BD Belay Parka? Or something else?
Can't go far wrong with the Citadel. Mountain Equipment make some of the finest insulation available, and that particular jacket is the choice of several members of staff here for cold weather static use.
I like trekking and expidition in high altitude mountains in the himalyas and for that I need a really warm jacket since I feel really cold. Pls suggest me if i should get the nebula pro,electron pro,neutrino pro or the axion pro.The weight of the jacket does not matter to me.
It depends how high you're planning to go and the other layers you're wearing. It's quite a loaded question, so I'd recommend contacting our Customer Service team who will be able to ask you some further questions and recommend one of the jackets above, or possibly an additional option. Email: support@trekitt.co.uk
What would you recommend between the Rab Nebula Pro Microlight Alpine and ME Senja
They're all quite different, so it depends how much warmth you need and which insulation type you'd prefer. The Senja is the warmest of the three and uses down, the Nebula sits in the middle and uses synthetic insulation and the Microlight is the lightest and uses down. We've got a good video about which insulation type to pick which should help narrow it down: ua-cam.com/video/CE_XvzUdC5w/v-deo.html
Can you do a guide price on your reviews
Hey Lee, manufacturers change their prices between seasons, and we change our discounts weekly, so popping the price in the video may cause more issues than it's worth. For each video we do, there's always a link to the product on the website which will have the most up to date price. Harry
Would you recommend this jacket over the Rab cirrus Alpine Jacket?
The Cirrus Alpine is lighter/less insulated, so it just depends how warm you need to be and what you're doing in it. Harry.
My nebula pro I’ve just bought only says pertex quantum on it. Not pro. What’s going on there?
What would you say is the best winter coat for UK ?
There isn't one I'm afraid, it depends on how much warmth you need, which fits you best, which has the features you're after, etc. We've got a pretty good playlist which should help narrow it down; I'll pop a link below. Kind regards, Harry.
ua-cam.com/play/PL08r2wWpJSjO_fOCilSZn7Kt6wbOUVFz9.html
How would this compare with the Arcteryx Atom AR for British winter hillwalking use?
Pretty similarly. The Atom will be a little more weather resistant as it has less stitching (no baffles), but they're both really good options. Try both on if you can. Harry
Hi, I have the Rab Cirrus jacket as a lighter outer/heavier midweight option. However, I'm interested in the Nebula Pro, will this be significantly warmer than the Cirrus?
The Nebula will be warmer due to the increased insulation fill. If you are in very cold environments, you could also look at the Generator Alpine Jacket for a very warm synthetic jacket.
I own the Rab valance jacket. Is it worth me buying this model? I'm not over impressed with the waterproofing on the Rab Valance jacket. After an hour of rain the jacket is useless
The Valiance should be fully waterproof - if it isn't, I would contact Rab. This Nebula Pro is not waterproof, though.
Which Rab down jacket would you compare it against in regard to warmth?
The Electron Pro is the closest equivalent. We've done a video on that too: ua-cam.com/video/BUE2yrwV9jw/v-deo.html
So, it makes it warmer than Microlight Alpine?
Hi Paul a bit late to the party….but what model are your montane trousers you have on in this video? Thank you
Layers are listed 28 seconds in.
@@trekitt how did I miss that! Many thanks 👍🏻😊
How does this jacket compare to the montane ground control as i found the rab a bit close fitting in small
Hi, the Montane is definitely a slimmer fit than the Rab. Paul.
Thanks paul
Which one is warmer? Nebula pro or kinder smock?
Which one is more durable (outer Shell) nebula pro or kinder smock?
Thank you.
Hi, The Nebula Pro uses a synthetic filling whilst the Kinder Smock uses a natural down filling. Warmth wise they are very similar, and they have very similar face fabrics making them equally durable. The Nebula however performs significantly better in cold and wet conditions thanks to the Pertex Quantum Pro fabric and the synthetic filling. The fit of the Nebula is slimmer and this makes the filling more effective. The Kinder is a bit of a retro piece with a loose, baggy fit. It is super comfy and warm, but for serious outdoor use, especially in the UK, I'd recommend the Nebula. I hope that helps. Paul.
@@trekitt thank you so much paul
Could anyone confirm what colour Beluga is please? Is it black or is it grey?
Blackish grey, but mostly grey.
And one last thing is, how does this compare in warmth to the axion pro, axion, and electron. Sorry for the questions :)
Axion and Axion Pro are warmer, Electron is about the same. However there are a huge number of variables that will affect how "warm" you feel in any particular jacket. Just selecting a jacket by "warmth" may not get you the best jacket for the job either. Weather resistance, weight, pack size, durability, fit, etc. must also be taken into account. Happy Christmas. Paul.
@@trekitt Hey thanks Paul! Merry Christmas to you too! I am new to synthetics, I think this will be perfect as I live in the PNW. Thanks for the awesome review!
Hi! Is nebula pro warmer than MH ghostwhisperer?
Unfortunately we don't stock the Ghost Whisperer, so I couldn't tell you from practical experience. I would estimate it is based on the weight of both jackets, though. Harry
hi, thank you so much for the nice video. I am an hunter, I am looking for light, warm and something resist to tear. what is your advice? thank you so much.
The Fjallraven Vidda Pro Wool Padded Jacket (link below) would be a great option. It features the toughest fabric of any insulated jacket we stock, can be waxed for added weather-resistance and uses wool to add extra insulation. www.trekitt.co.uk/clothing/jackets/fjallraven-mens-vidda-pro-wool-padded-jacket-dark-olive__40038
@@trekitt thank you. If I want to buy syntetic or down. which one is most durable for tearing?
@@semihguven454 Most synthetics will leak less if you rip the face fabric, but neither insulation type will necessarily resist tears.
Thanks for another great review. How warm would this be in comparison to rab down jackets? What would be its nearest down equivalent? Thanks.
The nearest down equivalent would be the Electron Pro. Kind regards, Harry.
@@trekitt Many thanks Harry. Keep up the good work.
@@trekitt and what about neutrino pro is the nebula more warmer than neutrino pro or the neutrino is the warmer one
You certainly get about
It's what I do! Thanks for watching. Paul.
@@trekitt I recently purchased a rab jacket based on your recommendations it's the cirrus alpine jacket..when i receive it I'll let you know what i think.
I'm sure you'll be impressed!
@@trekitt 😉
@@trekitt Extremely happy with my new jacket..just took it for an early morning walk.
Can you please help differentiate between Xenair Alpine and Nebula pro in terms of purpose and use recommendations + intended temperature range.
I can't do temperature range (we did a video about this: ua-cam.com/video/HvukvCzkGW0/v-deo.html ), but I can tell you that the Xenair uses a slightly air-permeable (wind passes through) outer fabric to maximise breathability, whereas the Nebula has a windproof fabric. The Xenair is really focused on active use and the Nebula more of a low/mid intensity piece. Both are quite similar in terms of warmth when there's not much wind.
@@trekitt Thankyou for the feedback! That helps.
@@madhavanand44 What was your choice? I´m in doubt too.
Stuck between this and the montane gangstang for winter, which would you say is the warmer of the 2?
Nebula has 250g of insulation vs the Gangstang's 133g, so the Nebula will be the warmer of the two. The Gangstang will be superior in wet conditions, though. Harry
@@trekitt thank you, which would you guys recommend as a winter belaying jacket? Or just sitting at camp (stationary use)
Both will be fine, but the Gangstang is more like a traditional belay jacket. The Mountain Equipment Fitzroy is also a good option.
@@trekitt brilliant thank you!
Hiya would it be possible to wear a base layer and fleece under it aswell as a gore tex jacket outside it?
Yes, but you'd be very toasty.
@@trekitt right I'll go for a thinner jacket so thanks
This style of fill clumps like down when you wash it, total pain in the bum, bought a ME Fitzroy far more resistant to wet snow and rain, I would always buy a sheet insulation jkt from now on.
Great review, can the hood be rolled down?
Thanks for watching. The hood isn’t designed to be rolled down.
what's the pack size like for when it's stuffed?
Hi, I reckon that it would fit into a medium exped fold dry bag which is 35x19x14,cm or 8 litres.
when the jacket is stuffed into the included back it has a diameter of 16cm and a height of 24cm, so a total volume of around 4,8 litres
Great but where in UK do you need helmet ?
At the bottom of any crag! Always best to be on the safe side.
Axion Pro up next? ;-)
@@andrewhayes9913 We'll pop it on the ever-expanding list!
@@trekitt Great. Not biggest fan of Electron colours this season so might hold out for the Axion Pro in Black.
I am 1.85 kg and 100. Do you think xl is too big for me?
I'm afraid I don't understand the metrics you've provided. Sorry.
@@trekitt I reckon this person means 1.85m tall, and 100kg weight. Therefore I think it’s quite likely the extra large sizing is correct for them.
if you got high ape index you must be a good climber :)
I was a good climber “back in the day” but prefer a bit of scrambling nowadays. Thanks for watching. Paul.