The ULTIMATE winter layering guide

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @StephenOutside
    @StephenOutside  11 місяців тому +11

    UPDATE for 10 degrees to -10 degrees:
    Wear multiple active mid layers! two or even three jackets/sweaters will allow you to stay warm WITHOUT sweating since you can easily remove layers if you get too hot. (reminder no cotton)
    Protect your face! A balaclava, scarf, neck gaiter, or even ski goggles will help prevent heat from escaping, especially with the extremely cold wind. ANY skin exposed on your body will severely reduce your core temperature
    Do not forget leg layers! Jeans will not cut it... Wear sweatpants or multiple if you have to (active mid layers). And absolutely do not forget a shell layer. This layer keeps the cold wind from sapping all the heat from your legs. Materials that will work best as a shell are tightly woven synthetics like nylon

    • @Globetrotter-1
      @Globetrotter-1 10 місяців тому +1

      I prefer not to multi-layer clothing and simply wear a down jacket over a very thin shirt.

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  10 місяців тому

      Yeah, that's super easy and I do it all the time. But the downside is if you get too hot and start sweating you have few options to stop it. So I only use a puffy like that for very short trips outside

    • @Globetrotter-1
      @Globetrotter-1 10 місяців тому +1

      @@StephenOutside I just unzip the jacket for ventilation. Or take it off. Simple. I'll always trek without wearing a jacket in winter. When stationary during severe winter storms of rain, hail or snow, on goes the waterproof/breathable expedition goose jacket. Down pants are worn during severe cold 🥶, otherwise just a pair of thin layer stretch pants. During high excursion mountain trekking I prefer to wear just thin shirt. In the pack I'll carry a lighter weight down jacket plus goretex jacket to cope with heavy winds or rainstorms on the peaks.

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  10 місяців тому

      Wait, you do mountaineering without an Active Layer!? I'm glad it's working out for you, but that seems super risky to me. If the down gets wet it can put you in a really bad situation. Stay safe!

    • @Globetrotter-1
      @Globetrotter-1 10 місяців тому +1

      @@StephenOutside Don't be daft. The down doesn't get wet. During winter I use the Rab Summit Batura 800 goose down jacket. It will withstand any weather chucked at it no matter how low the temperatures or wind chill factor, through snow❄️ or extreme winds. Even during prolonged 60mph winds and pelting icy rain it is not a problem.
      If I'm using my ultra lightweight Mountain Equipment Senja, it will withstand short showers, sleet and snow without a problem. If It's extreme high winds and prolonged rainstorms, then I'll chuck a North Face Summit Mountain Guide goretex jacket over the top.
      I also sleep on top of the mountains during winter storms without a bivvy or tent. I simply chuck my goose down expedition sleeping bag on the downmat. Snow, sleet or rain is not a problem for the sleeping bag.

  • @insanemac
    @insanemac 11 місяців тому +8

    8,000,000,000 points for the chart. I’ve been trying to make 2. 1 for active and one for sleep. It is not as easy as people think unless you have a walk in cooler in your house and it is important to know your comfort level, not the advertised or suggested norms. Great work.

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah thanks! It took me a winter or two to put it together and a lot of edits until I got it right for myself. I'm glad other people are finding it useful too!

  • @sunmand6136
    @sunmand6136 Рік тому +4

    Really good explanation, good job Stephen. Upvoting.

  • @NeilEvans-xq8ik
    @NeilEvans-xq8ik Рік тому +4

    I use a really thin sports shirt as my base layer, then either a fleece or an insulating synthetic jacket. My shell is just a jacket that I wax to waterproof. The insulating jacket is thin, but that's ok because I can just add the fleece if needed, although it rarely is. I live in the UK so it's mostly about staying dry rather than warm.

  • @skizzarz
    @skizzarz 10 місяців тому

    2:10 more loose layers will allow for more air pockets acting as insulation working against your thermal regulation, methinks

  • @ronfarnsworth7074
    @ronfarnsworth7074 12 днів тому

    I went to a mesh wool base layer for activewear with loosely woven Woolpower over that and it's the best moisture management I've found yet. Never going back to just a merino base except for nonactive wear, then it's fine. Density of layers should increase for each layer.

  • @drewskycraper4469
    @drewskycraper4469 23 дні тому

    Cotton base layer keeps me warmer when topped with my thick wool sweater. Then a puffer jacket. Cotton shirts are warmer if you dont intent to sweat it out or do strenuous activities out

  • @nathanbyd570
    @nathanbyd570 Місяць тому

    Here in N FL it can get below freezing on rare occasions during the winter, especially mornings and evenings. Warms up in the afternoon. I use layering with a medium jacket, with a rain jacket over it as a second layer. Works great.

  • @whbjr2528
    @whbjr2528 11 місяців тому +1

    Wool is so delicate.

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  11 місяців тому +1

      I guess it could be, but high quality wool is pretty solid. If you add a shell layer on top it'll be really protected.

  • @electricvehiclehead
    @electricvehiclehead Рік тому +1

    Very concise and informative video. Can't believe this was only published 10 days ago! ❤

  • @nimaiiikun
    @nimaiiikun Рік тому

    started switching away from cotton and wool knits for fleeces. Way easier to take care of, doesn't lose shape, and cheaper. been thinking to buy a soft shell as the shell layer. like the gamma MX

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  Рік тому +1

      Yeah fleeces are great!! My only problem is dog hair sticks to some fleece jackets like crazy haha, so I have to choose wisely.
      And nice, that looks like an amazing shell layer!

  • @fatherdamo2
    @fatherdamo2 3 місяці тому +1

    Always a mesh merino base layer (Brynje), nothing else comes close. Followed by merino top or Arthur beale wool jumper... Waxed Anorak (Fjallraven No.8) as top layer. Forget the technical Goretex, wind stoppers etc, nothing I've found when hiking in UK keeps you dry all day, whether that be rain or sweat. it's all about keeping warm when moving and when still. No.8 might wet out even when waxed but wet doesn't get past jumper. This is also a very breathable setup so sweat won't get you cold.

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  3 місяці тому

      @@fatherdamo2 Looks like an awesome setup. I've heard a lot about mesh base layers although I've never tried them. Thanks for sharing!

    • @WHBJr
      @WHBJr Місяць тому

      We're just finding ot about what Norwegians have known all along!!!!!

  • @rubenrichardson5866
    @rubenrichardson5866 Рік тому

    I’ve yet to test my gear on a snowy winter hike. So far my city has reached temps between 40° - 30° and a combo of thermal+ hiking pants have done well for me, as for my top I use a thermal long sleeve+ primaloft vest+ gore-tex shell and it works well enough. I’m also investing in some gloves and have a packable puffer on the way for those snowy days to come. Very excited to see how they handle the cold!

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  Рік тому +1

      I had a ton of fun testing out gear and creating that chart! Finding the boundary temperatures for clothing was kinda funny because my goal was to be slightly too cold or slightly too warm.
      Sounds like solid layers though!

  • @benbalach
    @benbalach Місяць тому

    "Every winter I forget and need to relearn", same! The problem with the chart is that towards the end of winter we have gained some cold tolerance and we can usually do with one layer less for the same temperature than in the beginning of winter.

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  Місяць тому +1

      Hahah so true. The beginning of winter definitely feels colder than the end of winter

  • @backcountry_pete
    @backcountry_pete 3 місяці тому +4

    When sleeping in cold weather bring a male urinal you can buy at the drugstore. Cold makes you pee more. Holding your pee all night will give you a terrible sleep. Better to pee in the bottle and take it out of the sleeping bag. Opening the bag to get up and pee will release a ton of heat and it will take a long time to rebuild it when you get back into the bag. It took many nights of experimentation to figure this all out.

  • @ManuelPrado
    @ManuelPrado 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for sharing, so helpful!
    Any chance you’re willing to share that spreadsheet?

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  11 місяців тому +2

      Of course! Here it is
      docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_TKXszf33AesnJJqiZedHRCnejbmwOHpf2t_KTdq8e0/

    • @ManuelPrado
      @ManuelPrado 11 місяців тому +1

      @@StephenOutside muchas gracias!

  • @skizzarz
    @skizzarz 10 місяців тому +13

    you didn't talk feet at all, you must be talking mild winters

  • @whbjr2528
    @whbjr2528 Рік тому

    Very nice

  • @VPOTOPDOWN
    @VPOTOPDOWN 19 днів тому

    AWWEEEESSSSSOOOOMMMMMEEEE!

  • @whbjr2528
    @whbjr2528 9 місяців тому +1

    You can buy a synthetic base for every day of the month for 3 merino wool basses!!!!!

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  9 місяців тому

      Merino is crazy expensive! The only time I think it's worth the cost is if you'll be wearing it for a few days without washing (backpacking, ski-packing etc.)

  • @vdlorenzo2578
    @vdlorenzo2578 Місяць тому

    Hello mate just wondering what base layer are you using hear you said its not to tight on the body which sounds good as in the past i have found them to be uncomfortable

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  Місяць тому

      @@vdlorenzo2578 I use the Patagonia Capilene midweight base layers.

    • @vdlorenzo2578
      @vdlorenzo2578 Місяць тому

      @StephenOutside thanks so much I work outside doing tennis coaching and I'm absolutely freezing this week so came across your voice I had no idea how bad cotton is I now need to spend a lot of money buying proper gear but it can be overwhelming I don't really know that much about it all. Any recommendations would be very helpful especially for jackets hats gloves ect

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  Місяць тому

      @vdlorenzo2578 oh awesome I played and coached tennis too! If I'm actively playing, any base layer with a windbreaker usually does the trick for me. If I start sweating, a layer usually needs to come off. Sometimes it'll be near freezing and I'm playing in just a hoodie and shorts
      But if I'm standing and not sweating I need quite a bit of insulation. A puffy jacket, sweatpants, and shell pants does the trick for me. For puffy jackets you want one with a good amount of loft

  • @skizzarz
    @skizzarz 10 місяців тому

    ok thumbs up for suspenders, but be cool and learn to sew some buttons into your snow pants and get some button suspenders from thrift stores

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  10 місяців тому

      Yeah the clips used to come off all the time, but I found good spots for them and they've been there for a while now. Maybe someday I'll sew them on, I hadn't thought of that

  • @antlab22
    @antlab22 Рік тому

    can you share that google slides? would be very helpful :)

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  Рік тому +1

      Here's the chart, I hope it helps!
      docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_TKXszf33AesnJJqiZedHRCnejbmwOHpf2t_KTdq8e0/

  • @kaitoyuu1925
    @kaitoyuu1925 9 місяців тому

    Bamboo is okay as based layer right? They call it bamboo cotton so is it still cotton?

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  9 місяців тому

      Bamboo makes for a great base layer! I would be cautious about "bamboo cotton" though since it could be part bamboo part cotton which would be bad. Make sure there is little to no cotton % in the materials

  • @WHBJr
    @WHBJr 10 днів тому

    I hear that theres 2 things to consider. 1. Moving winter wear, and 2. Sedentary winter wear

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  10 днів тому +1

      @@WHBJr Yeah exactly! But you can get lazy with the sedentary winter wear and just throw it over the top of your moving wear. Makes it easy to take breaks and not get cold!

    • @cannibalmanimal2336
      @cannibalmanimal2336 3 дні тому

      Moving is thinner & more breathable, static is thicker & more wind resistant.

  • @StephenOutside
    @StephenOutside  Рік тому +1

    If you have a favorite jacket that you love, leave a comment below with what it is!

    • @vennyph
      @vennyph Рік тому +1

      Patagonia R1 air , tnf ventrix as active layers

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  11 місяців тому

      My current favorite layers:
      Base layer: Patagonia Capilene shirt and pants
      Active layer: Patagonia R1
      Thermal layer: Patagonia Down Sweater
      Shell layer: Super old rain jacket from Eddie Bauer (not even waterproof anymore) and secondhand soft shell ski pants.
      I don't buy new clothes unless I need to, and when I do, I try to buy Patagonia cause I believe in what they do. Not sponsored but damn would that be cool 😎

  • @frankstark3036
    @frankstark3036 3 місяці тому

    What’s with the hat indoors???

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  3 місяці тому

      Messy hair + hat I like = hat in every video

  • @whbjr2528
    @whbjr2528 11 місяців тому

    Hard land down jacket $78!!!

  • @WHBJr
    @WHBJr Місяць тому

    Im a big guy 5'8" 290lbs and a 3x wool base is too big!!!!!!!

  • @nomsolo9935
    @nomsolo9935 11 місяців тому

    Sweet sweet boy, you haven't heard of mesh baselayers yet. Loop up Brynje.

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  11 місяців тому

      Lmao, yeah they're not popular in the US yet. I've seen them used for Ultralight Backpacking but they're still very fringe right now

  • @Government_Username
    @Government_Username 11 місяців тому +2

    I wonder if John Muir, Teddy Roosevelt or Ansel Adams ever thought about this that deep

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  11 місяців тому +5

      Yeah I wonder, this got me curious so I looked it up lol. People in the 1800s wore several mid layers made of wool, flannel, or fur. Shell layers included hooded capes, great coats, and cloaks. Then mittens, scarves, and ear muffs, but also blankets and umbrellas if they were in a carriage. So not a ton has changed hahah

    • @insanemac
      @insanemac 11 місяців тому

      They were too busy fighting demons, syphilis, and consumption.

  • @desidesigning
    @desidesigning 11 місяців тому +1

    Good job. But unfortunately, it is not enough for minus 10 degrees.

    • @StephenOutside
      @StephenOutside  11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah I agree, this weekend is crazy weather. I'll put together an additional list and pin it to this video!

  • @ak47bobbarke
    @ak47bobbarke 3 місяці тому +1

    Layers and layers and layers and layers...👁️👄👁️