2 New AI vs 6 Old AI
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The new Extreme AI is pretty good, but can 2 of them take on 6 of the old CD version AI?
Patreon: / spiritofthelaw
Full intro song: • Spirit of the Law Chan...
Game: Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition, with Forgotten Empires, African Kingdoms, Rise the Rajas, and Last Khans expansions
can't wait for the "2 spirit of the law versus 6AI" video
I've seen that type of meme in other RTS game related channel =^)
Spirit+TheViper+DauT+Fatslob vs 8 AI! (I forgot if a map can hold 12 players or not)
I would guarantee the human players would wipe the floor against 8 ai. Spirit of the Law could probably take on 4 by himself lol.
@@Kortexual Even the Elite ones?!
(slight reverb) Hey guys, I just cloned myself so I could test out the Definitive Edition AI, You can tell which one is the real Spirit because he's better, or..wait...
Blue: “Sir, they have us outnumbered three to one!”
Red: “Then it is an even fight.”
To be fair, the Elites were operating the Covenant M1 Abrams compared to the T-34's equivalents the Brutes were using... so to the Shipmaster it would be an even fight.
I just have to say first answer that came into my mind : Stupid rebellion then.
Also don't forget about my wood.
All Barracks spam Gothic Champions, swarm their mongrel hives.
*ALL UNITS*
Frank Old Ai: Goes full on beries
Spirit: Oh it is using the faster collection bonus
Me: I dont think that was intentional
Yeah it's just a coincidence it happened to be franks, it always does that
@@Kevin-wx7wu True. It's just the default go to when you don't have sheep.
pretty sure spirit was aware of it too XD
@@xarin42 yes he should, he made a point of it in the old ai vs hd ai(huns mirror match) video
Caloricsleet94 aoe2 definitive. Call me
1 and 2: How I wish I could play.
4 and 5: How I think I can play.
3, 6, 7 and 8: How I actually play.
@@topaz173 same :(
Topaz even that Franks could destroy me easily by itself 🙂
It took 20 years, but the AI finally learned to not throw whole armies into castles like the Somme was running out of fashion. Progress!
It now just prefers a light tickling from the castles, before running away again!
@AlexNOSAM What's the meaning of that "computer science major"-term at the end of your comment? In case you used it to strengthen your "point": you didn't say anything technical.
Cuauhtemoc did his best trying to carry all this noobs.
you could say he was doing his berry best.
yup.
The Eagle Warrior rush was one of the few times the new AIs had to fully break off their attacks to coordinate a proper counter for that.
“It’s quite vocal about getting resources....”
Yea, and the AI can go chop its’ own wood! Gave the AI 4K wood and it asked for more 2 min later...
You dense madman thats not the kind of wood it had in mind.
@@Irondragon1945 dear penthouse, I didn't know it would ever happen to me but I wad astonished when the AI of Age of Empires made flirtatious advances towards me....
@@Irondragon1945 When they said intelligent AI was dangerous, this wasn't what I had in mind
There are never enough woods
These comments are what i love most
we all have a green ai in our personal lives - that nonchalant person who's utterly disinterested in what's happening around them, just want to focus on their own life without a care of anything else while everyone else is running around and fighting each other for success in life
No need to worry about my username, that’s me.
I mean yeah, that's pretty much what I do
Meeeeeee
“Green, green, what’s your problem green?”
They just want a quite peaceful life, sadly the game didn't let them have it.
27:55 treb going through a closed gate because yes.
Alessandro P. Wow didnt even notice it first time i watched lol
Advanced *T E C H N O L O G Y*
22:35 a magyan hussar passes a closed gate as well. blue probably is wallhacking
It is secretly a T-1000...
*Trebuchet-1000* O_o
The cavalry too, when blue attacks gray's gates.
13:06 If you look at the minimap, you can see that poor red sheep finally fulfilled her duty and was called back home. "And now her watch is ended." F
Good catch. I wanted to ask but saw this. Looks like the sheep actually made it all the way back too.
It's an he
her?? no girls in the watch dude
good one! i forgot about the sheep lmao
Oh shit yeah the intro is back ;o;
Worth the wait for that new DE footage. Can't wait to watch the intro build up over time all over again
12:18 "Those walls. Thats some weird AI there.. its only going to delay"
Me: Walls in front of villagers makes them feel safe and be more productive. dont judge ......
Love the new intro can’t wait till you finish it
isn't that Karambit intro version... Was use like 1-2 month Ago?
@@evvec1490 You need to look at it again, and keep watching it. Over and over until you finally see it.
@@jcpkill1175 what am i looking at? It Same as 1 or 2 month ago..
Edited* nvm
it is beautiful
22:35 "Yea they gonna get through that gate in not too long"
*AI just walks through*
pal, what an eyesight
Did he phase in lmao
just passing
@1234 Blue: You saw nothing!
SOTL has such a buttery voice and I love it
Makes you wonder what he’ll sound like when he’s eating a steak
for real, i just found this guy and i wish he would narrate all the games i watch
He talks to slow. I have go watch on 2× speed
Torin Jones he is talking quite fast and clear
@@torinjones3221 At leas you can speed, I can't slow down fast talkers.
18:44 love that 40 minute imperial-age militia
Nice eye, took a while to notice it.
Took down a Onager by himself, true hero.
Mungo the Mangonel meets its match... or is it?
- Mom, can we have champions
- We have champions at home
Champions at home:
Spirit, could you try out the new AI commands by doing a 2v2 where the human players are only allowed to feed and command?
That would be amazimg id place bets on that
That’d actually be really cool.
I kind of want to see a 1v1 of AIs each with a human "ally" that can only use the commands to try and direct the AI to victory.
That could be really funny. :D
That would be really cool!
it would be an RTS played with an RTS! o.O
someone should make a map as a 4v4, with a player on each side in a big fortress but with no way to build units or get eco, and 3 AIs each which the players have to direct against each other
@@DefineReality it doesn't seem like you have to tell the ais all that much, certainly much less than when actually playing the game
Here is what really impressed me about the updated AI:
-The AI strategies include various rushes
-Sheep scouting
-Lures deer with scout
- Will walk through holes in your wall to raid your town
-go around your castle
-Kite archers in groups
What really took me off-guard.. is that the AI will send a villager to repair mangonels. I had to double-check that I wasn't fighting a human opponent
While the updated AI still got some of the original AI's flaws (like still never walling and spastic against trushes)I never in my wildest dreams would have predicted such a vastly improved AI.
My favourite strategy of the new AI is the strategic sheep patrol.
And I loll'd so hard when the frank AI stone walled his own lumberjacks.
Whatever AI lacks in finer logic, it more than surpasses with multi-tasking and macro-management.
He knows something we Don't
Blue: There's six of them and two of us.
Red: LET'S GO MUG'EM!
VLDL for life!
Yet again, I'm watching someone watching a computer play against another computer...
And that's not even including the fact that reality is simulated to begin with.
Hey man, i Read your comment on another video, funny running into you again 🙂
I love it when the AIs ask for all resources simultaneously and it ends up sounding like 'fold please!' /s
New intro in DE graphics! HYPE
Karambitcoin's value going down instead of up like the old intro lol
Imagine trying to destroy a stone building with volley of arrows.
Imagine succeeding
_"Not at the towers! Aim for the trolls!"_
Okay bloodseeker.
*Obsidian arrows intensifies*
12:03
Sounds like you said "evil warrior"
But is it bad that I root more for the CD AI during these?
bcs he tried to steal da sheep
subtitles said that too
I tested 6 vs 2 extensively with the HD AI and they always beat the original CD AI on pure land maps. It's different with water though where they tend to lose sometimes. The HD AI does especially well with ranged units, because they just send units into the general direction of the enemy and the range helps attacking actual targets.
22:36 huh?! how the heck was the cavalry at the right gate being able to get through? O.o
btw. the old a.i. rarely slings. in fact, when they die they just give all their ressources to the next teamplayer.
If the new AI is very aggressive with its scout, does it mean the AI scouting is aggressive or the top ELO players' scouting is aggressive? As well as going under the TC too much.
The handling of walls by both old and new AI is weird. The old AI never linked their walls together - they'd leave all kinds of awkward no-man's lands between their allies. The new AI still gets super hung up about encountering walls. It sometimes seems to mass archers against a fortified wall... that they can just walk around.
Watched the 1v7 now this. I think it would be amazing with one where you did a 1v7 and 2v6 but where all the ai was the same exact nations/factions so that we can really see the difference in the ai. That way they have the same units stats and available buildings+ bonuses. What do you guys think? :)
Yes, but what happened to the sheep?
8:46 Blue's getting so cocky, it's helping the enemy AI with their bear
NOOOOOO shortened intro? I love your old intro and never skipped it ;_;
riot!
@@Wockes Must agree. We need the long one.
I'll go back to my 10 hours loop after the video
Or before, as intro? 🤔
maybe he is working on remaking the intro on DE
@@smkay6381 well, the Goth Gameplan has HD grass now, so sounds good :D
Spirit, can you do a video on how strong “All Tech” would be if it were a civilization?
Would love to see New AI vs New AI vs 6 Old AI
3 teams
6:03
ELEPHANT MONK NEW UNIT YESSSSS
oh
awwwwww
New patch: Persian war elephants can convert other elephants to the cause!
Why don't you let the dogs out and put 1 Old AI Vs 7 New AI just for comparison and fun mostly.
I've tried it: They lose pretty handily. The new AI is far better than the old one but it just can't gather resources and build troops fast enough to deal with 7 enemies by itself.
@@DarthLeon2 He said 1 old vs 7 new.
@@PressA2Die Oh lol. In that case yeah, that would just be mean.
@@tvremote9394 So temped to do that.
@@DarthLeon2 lol Pretty sure he did 1 new vs 7 old already, or 6 old something like that
27:57 just a trebuchet sliding through a closed gate.
*Gate is open for a sec*
Trebuchet: Don't mind if I do.
Edit: Oh wow it wasn't open indeed.
I'm a Hungarian. Makes me laugh every time I hear you say Magyars :D
wonder why they didn't just name them Hungarians, someone from somewhere XDDD +sigh+
@@nintom every nation in the game should have its own name :D
@@nintom For some reason the english make a distinction between the pre conquest and post conquest Hungarians (by conquest I mean the conquest of our current location in 895 AD)
Almost every time when they talk about Hungarians they refer pre 895 AD as Magyars (Wich is what we call ourselves) and after 895 or 1000 (formation of Christian kingdom) they call us Hungarian wich is a name that was given to us by byzantines that became the most used name for us outside our immediet neighbourhood
@@sosig6445 so call you guys Magyars then?
@@MidoriOfTheShuinsen
Our closest neighbours call us that. Hungarian is completely fine aswell as long as you don't make that 1 stupid pun with it.
heck we sometimes ourselves chant "HUNGÁRIA" instead of magyarok on while rooting for our sport teams.
1:25 The most important part of the video, in glorious modern graphics. Love it!
I feel like if the Franks had actually shown up the old AI may have stood a chance, those early eagles looked pretty dicey for a second but without any support they couldn't keep the pressure on
Eagles were not Frankish. They were Aztec.
@@MrMaro1995 That's the point. The Frankish civ didn't throw any units out until well after everyone else was depleted. The old AI were all allied, so Tiger was saying that some support from the Franks would have let the Aztec Eagles Warriors keep up the pressure.
the de intro!!! love it! but please don't shorten it, bring it back to the original length :(
New intro! Yay!
It's somewhat shorter? Aww...
dad got me on original aoe almost 15 years ago, havent touched it for almost 10 years. Watching one of your videos got me to get definitive. Great vids man.
I loved how Franks went from no-militia-drush to stone-wall-off-your-own-lumber-camp to 50-minutes-imp and finally no-bracer-cav-archers
Try using on new AI + one old vs oldies to see how well it is at carrying
22:37 anyone else see the hussar run straight through the gate?
This "old AI" is AoC AI, right? Because HD AI is waaay better.
You could say now it's
*DEFINITIVE*
OMG THE NEW INTRO
Diet intro? I would like to see the definitive edition when a big video drops
i'm just wondering what happened to that tree hugging sheep
I feel like they should be able to win. In that last game the AI was doing very well but was too much under pressure to strike at opponents. But let's now see if I was right.
In the future AI will be unbeatable. Imagine being able to micromanage infantry, arches, cavalry and siege at the same time,, where the humans players are focusing on one army.
I seem to remember having an easy time with the AI in my first campaign in HD against the Huns. Until I got to mission 4... the first mission where the AI gets to go imperial. At which point, the AI started churning out wave after wave of paladins and crossbows. The HD AIs and later seem to get particularly vicious once they hit Imperial Age.
If it's the 4th mission on the Attila campaign, it's because the Franks in that mission use Chivalry, a tech which increases their stable output by 40%. Means they can churn out Paladins at will. Ridiculous.
Nathan Barnes challenge accepted I say. I’ll just throw spearman at them! Look at them quiver in fear!
@@TheGeoCheese *watches their archers 'quiver' in fear*
He protecc
He attacc
But most importantly:
THE INTRO IS BACC
Yeah if you play with the new AI as a human it tends to be really dumb even on harder extreme it'll sit in its base never unit use its units and when you tell it to attack it'll say I can't do that....
You should try this match again except put a treaty for 30 minutes. I wonder what'll happen if the CD AI can build up in peace and not get taken out early in the game?
They're still fucked. The new AI will still win, their boom is still better and their teamwork, resource management, and population management in the late game will triumph.
@12:13 awesome walling... Let me protect my trees from my Lumberjacks. I'm sure it's aware of Global Warming...!
Spirit you shld cast more matches. I dont care if its AIs.. but human players would be great too. This is an amazing learn. I watch AI play all the time as well. But watching this makes much more enjoyable
So this is what happens when you let 2 ai talk to each other
Haha, nice!!!
22:35 "Pathfinding"
27:56 can someone explain that treb for me how it went through the gate xd
It's obviously thanks to the quantum tunneling effect
@@DommHavai why do i know this?
LOL, good catch...wtf happened there...
But what about that sheep? Damn you, I need conclusion!
Early game red: Please stop bullying me with eagle warriors
Late game red: I will destroy your bloodline with siege weapons
8:05 There was a Scot having fun with her sister behind the tree, and she was awaiting her time.
Now I understand the importance of walling the edge of the map.
* _The things that come from the dark void_ *
I just watched 8 computer players fight to the death with each other for 30 minutes lmao
1v 5 or 1 v6 would be closer. or go with fortress then the old AI often doesn't spend so much time on walls
22:36 did that cav unit just go through grey's gate?
fuck that gate, Im going in
Old AI plays huns and goths really well
Other civs not too much in the original cd
12:51 the new AI is just like "I'm 15 moves ahead of you and everyone else"
One thing I learned from these videos that I could use against AIs is use battering rams.
2 new vs 1 new + 5 old?
I don't know about y'all but I wanna see how old and new work when they're on the same team
NEW INTRO!!!
Now let's try the middle point of 1 DE AI + 1 HD AI vs 6 old AIs
This is Skynet
28:57 That poor trebuchet D:
Is there a guy riding through a closed gate in the bottom right at 22:37?
I've been playing around with the new A.I. and old. I enjoyed making random challenges for it.
Like 1V7 but every time one of the 7 takes out a completed castle I torpedo that player.
Or try to sabotage it by ordering its units around in a 1v1.
The old AI's have absolutely no resiliency. Cause them some damage and they never recover.
The new AI is able to push back when they get pushed.
Lost track of what point the patroling sheep was lost
OI!!! WHAT IS THAT INTRO! ITS SHORTER!
you said you were never going to change it, thats... sad :(
I done this myself with a ludicrous map. The battle raged on for ages as they all advanced to imperial age and all had relatively large armies. I'll try and get some time to replay it and upload it :)
Commenting in the beginning...
“I am so glad to see this! I am betting on the 2 new AI.”
Finally watched. I was right! The new AI is really spastic though!
This vid had more views at 2 hrs than lil teccas new song from a day ago 😂😂
You should go against 7 old ai then 7 new ai
Legends Say Red Sheep is still patroling
I don't know why youtube recommended a channel focussing on a game I've not played in 10 years but boy am I glad it did
And now I have to reinstall AoE2
8:45 Ursa used his ult
hey man great vid, please make more vids like this with AI
What have happened to paroling sheep?
"New" intro
Next video on "2 New AI vs 6 HD AI"
Came here cause AoE2 Definitive Edition videos were recommended to me, staying here for the diversity of content in relation to AoE2 (despite me only being familiar with AoE3). Also i would love to see more AI battles! These really fascinate me for some reason.
11:52 Such a diligent sheep guarding the area. Who's a good boy?
You changed the intro song!
1 vs 6 is the obvious next question