What's so good about Lavos really? | Warframe
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- As we hold our collective breaths ahead of a new major update, it's time to address why Lavos is my number 1 used and showcased Warframe in the game. Settle in for a calm and rational discussion piece on my favourite tanky alchemist.
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Dude your Operator Fashion is EXACTLY like mine (3:23)
And is not like that is a common combination of cosmetics
Apple Pies are Delicious!
What is the weapon in the thumbnail
@@loadingerror7599I think its an argo and vel (drifter mace and shield unlock from Duviri) but I could be wrong.
@@loadingerror7599 Argo & Vel
The fact that your most biased video is still extremely informative and based entirely on objective facts says a lot about the quality of your content, Ken 😂
Keep up the good work
If you play the game for long enough, you find a frame that becomes your comfort pick, it just makes sense. Mine's currently Nezha, mainly for the movement and double damage stacking with his 2 and Roar.
Nezha is bae. He’s such a flamer. ❤
Mines rn are Gauss and Mirage. I’ll throw these 2 out for anything
Yeah, Nezha is my comfort pick aswell, hell, I could call him my crutch.
I have done all of warframe’s content with Frost. I don’t see why people complain.
mines wukong and u get why, starting to like saryn for non survival game but doesn't work
I play d&d every so often and main an artificer/alchemist. Seeing Lavos’ description immediately made me want him. I’ve been wanting to build him for a while now, and thanks to you, I will. Thank you for making this content. It’s phenomenal from start to finish.
My buddy uses him all the time and swears by him. He's pretty fun honestly.
ohhhh dbd yea he's like a killer in that game
Lavos is definitely among my favorites. It's also nice not having to manage energy economy and those times where the game just doesn't care to give you energy orbs. His vial rush is very fun to use as well.
Before watching: As a lavos main, i find him to be tanky and overall fun
Edit after watching: I can agree with many of the pounts, he is tanky and adaptable, his transmutation probe converting ammo and orbs to universal is convenient enough my zephyr main friend often asks me to bring him on long missions over other frames id prefer. Though i will admit i didnt know of the finisher opportunities nor the way you can chain vial rush
There's also a cool vial rush interaction with Mag's bubble if you're looking to coordinate with a friend. It's pretty fun, something different. Look into it if you want to.
@Wooskii1 i imagine its like canceling early or getting stuck, where all the vials land in relatively obe spot?
"Tanky" Every warframe with onel heal and a Bit of armor is a tank in communitys eyes but gets clapped when levels rise just a bit (talking about steel path)
In normal missions every frame survives even a visible loki...
Lavos is a bit tank and a bit DD but nothing for real
>tanky
>No augur set
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@@warflex8895 even if I conceded that people overuse the term tanky, I'm fairly sure having twice the base health and armor of the average frame counts as way more then "a bit of armor". He has the 5th highest EHP before mods and abilities and it shows. If you can't survive as lavos on non-endless steel path missions...that's legitimately on you.(I mean he's even doing steel path in the video) If you want to talk about endless missions, then that's a different story. most players don't do endless long enough where it's a anything is a threat to a well-built lavos though.
Also, calling shield gating tanky is like calling CC tanky. they're fundamently different ways of surviving. Naturally tanky frames don't have to press a button every second they get shot by a single peashooter.
Wow that Vial Rush Probe combo is absolutely insane, thanks for sharing Ken!
Lmao hi there Umbral
I really love how all the major WF content creators know each other and have a kind of general agreement that any ideas can and will be used by the others if they might be needed, or just cool.
It's a lot better coming from a borderlands 2 community there is nothing but love from the Warframe community BL2 is full of UA-camrs arguing it's really sad because I loved that game I now replaced my love with Warframe and I may never go back to BL2
Even before I found your channel, Lavos had become one of my favourite frames, and this perfectly sums up why. He's very, VERY comfortable to play with, and while often another frame may be better for a specific job, in most scenarios he simply works good enough.
His 2 is fantastic.
Its a shame that half the tilesets in the game involve a staircase that he cannot dash up.
As a person who also loves lavos, he is good and fun but the main reason I think people steer clear of him is because of his gimmicks. Choosing elements for each ability confuses some people and cooldowns make people think they can’t spam (you basically can if you just play him properly). Overall I personally think he is one of the most uniquely enjoyable frames in the game when you use him right
I know it's a ways off, but I'm maintaining a stock of 3 Umbral Forma at all times for the day when Lavos Prime finally drops, I love him that much.
As a Loki Prime main, I would feel called out but that was my decoy all along.
under rated comment of the century!
I've mained Kullervo for so long but Lavos' lore really interested me. About to build him and this video tells me that I was right in my choice.
Been using Lavos for the past month and a half now and im in love. I always had the problem to find a warframe i actually like and find fun, Lavos is that warframe.
I’m waiting patiently for Lavos Prime and Cedo Prime. It’s gonna be a good day.
lavos prime is going to be very soon since we are on gauss prime! im betting after protia prime they will be choosing between xaku and lavos prime as the next
They come four years after release, so this December is looking good. I am beyond ecstatic. Having to stop myself from formaing him a sixth time right now lmao b
I imagine the operator behind a skilled Lavos reciting the Ripley Scroll and walking through battle among corpses as elemental waves pour from the frame's hands. Everyone else is hopping around the walls and roll dashing like a hedgehog on amphetamines but his operator is calmly listing every line of the text and barely needs to fire a shot.
Honestly I think this is a pretty good explanation of the virtues of Lavos. He does a lot that's unique, even if it's not gamebreakingly so, and does everything else Good Enough that he's an incredibly good comfort-frame to just load into missions and Do. Historically I've had a lot of these myself, some better at it than others-- Nidus was my guy for like a year but admittedly he spends a lot of time pressing 1, then it was Revenant but he doesn't do much *unique* other than be genuinely unkillable and somehow still receive buffs from DE anyway, then it was Garuda, who I think does a LOT right and I love her to death but she's also pretty high APM. Lavos may not be my default, but I absolutely understand and respect the commitment, he's just so eminently... Playable. He doesn't bust your ass, he's not boring, and he has just enough claim to fame doing things nothing else can with his lack of an energy pool. Idealized warframe, tbh.
As someone who stuck with Revenant for such a long time Lavos quickly became my top pick alongside it. Just a blast to play overall and lots of potential. Also not worrying about "wasting energy" is such a good feeling even though i run Zenurik most of the time. I am one of the weird people who really enjoy railjack so not having to worry about energy issues while flying was just the cherry on top. Honestly highly reccomend people to at least give him a go.
What is Lavos pros compared to Revenant? I haven't got him yet and Revenant seems like a reliable warframe tbh.
@@centurionxiv6905 Well depends on what you look for on a frame. Revenant and Lavos do different things but one thing that they have in common in my opinion is versatility and synergy in their kit. Revenant can enthrall enemies to crowd control while also being able to dispatch said thralls with percentage damage based on strength all the while being immortal. That said his 4th ability leaves much to be desired and doesn't quite work along the rest of his kit. But i find he work in a lot of scenarios from defense to exterminate but especially survival. Keep in mind i mostly play offline due to my potato net and your thralls can be killed by other players which might get in the way of dispatching high health enemies. Lavos however doesn't have a traditional CC like enthrall but he can infuse his abilities with any element and use that as a CC substitute. Inflicting cold can slow enemies while electricity can stun them for a moment. He also may not have the invincibility skill of Revenant but he does have the second most armor of any frame while also his whole kit synergyzing and working well on higher tier content.
This is all a really simplified version of their differences from a potato mostly casual player. Ken does have a Revenant guide and i very much reccomend checking it out. See how the frame works.
Oh I see. He sounds decent then, but at which level do you think Lavos starts having trouble in holding up in SP? Past level 200?@@mrstalfos7489
When Lavos first came out, I almost immediately bought him. He's since then become my go-to when I don't want anything specific loadout, and I've shocked my friends who know the game better by simply eating hits that most others can't. Lavos mains rise
He's so easy to build for since you don't need efficiency, or duration.
For me this has always been Rhino.
Lavos and Wisp, my two favorite frames that complement each other perfectly. Omniprocs and Omnibuffs
@@techknight3753 Don't forget Voruna. She and Lavos can be best friends honestly
@laneleach You absolutely need duration, it increases the range of your Vial Rush and the duration of your status effects. I build duration and strength, with a bit of range and efficiency
All the reasons listed, sound why my most played warframe is wisp. I'm not a streamer mind you, but everything you said applies to her as well. Except for the energy part, but with wisp, you throw down your flowers, stay close to them and you stop needing energy.
Simply not having to have energy efficiency or generation on my build when using Lavos makes things so refreshing. Also cycling through his elements and abilities to maximize damage is a fun built in mini game. Not to mention the innate punch through on his abilities. There are lots of times when I'm killing enemies through walls while waiting for someone to come hit the second pad to open a door.
I just wish the element you chose stayed selected. It would be such a huge QoL improvement.
It's good as it is since less spam and makes u think plus it's like ur actually mixing potions each time
I've played the game for about 1k hours now and when I was looking for a decent frame I had noticed most of your vids had lavos and went to give him a try, he's now my go to frame for nearly most content I do, loved him as soon as I took him into a mission, and i have you to thank for that i would've never seen him
I have been looking at my Lavos build now again... What is your opinion on Arcane Power Ramp? That one sounds quite nice for Lavos the longer I think about it. Usually you cast your abilities in succession, and I can't really think of a case where you would an ability repeatedly, because of Cooldowns.
I would say since lavos will rarely recast the same ability twice in a row cause of cooldowns, it seems like a very good fit for him
Lavos is one of my most played frames. It’s absolutely true that he is versatile and tanky. People who say he is a niche frame have no idea what they’re talking about. They just don’t understand how well he balances between support, CC, tankiness, stopping power, mobility, and heavy weapon usage. I have seen his 4 hit well over 10 million on some targets, and with air burst subsumed, I can group enemies, use 1, 3, and 1, and have 4 ready to go within 5 seconds of using it.
hes far from one of the most played according to statistics from 2022 he is on the middle of the chart with only 0.76% of usage, so he is fairly niche
that all said, just because he is hardly used doesnt mean that he isnt insanely powerful, i have run saryn, chroma and styanax, and i would say lavos is still my strongest frame to date
A lot of these points are why I keep going back to Oberon. I'd play Lavos more if the element picking didn't feel so clunky or if I could setup default combinations tied to each ability.
Oberon with the feyarch skin will always be my comfort frame
I use Citrine for a similar reason. Her passive is a comfy health regen, her 2 gives a lot of defense, especially if combined with Health Conversion, Adaptation and Arcane Blessing. Her 1 makes healing and energy regen a non issue, her 3 is a solid CC, damage and weapon buff tool if you use Condition Overload or the Galvanized variants of it, even more if you use Archon Continuity for the extra Corrosive proc. Her 4 is just a panic button, or a "I really do not want to deal with an Acolyte today" button. Simple, fun, strong, tanky, all a man can want! Not to mention how all of her abilities also affect allies, making her an amazing frame for solo and a terrific choice for co-op missions!
I used volt for for almost 70% of the game basically. Same deal. For me, huge energy pool, stun, damage, buffs, speed, and a 100% damage reduction shield that basically makes you immortal if you have a corner.
I just tried lavos because it made me curious and completely fell in love with it. Even purchased him a skin, since it will most likely be my main now
Ever since Duviri, Lavos has become one of my favorite frames to play. It started with min-maxing status-based decrees, which made me realize just how powerful he can be. He's one of the three frames I can use comfortably in Steel Path, the others being Nidus as an ultimate health tank and Wisp with her level 100 sneak.
I haven't played the game in awhile, but lavos being adabptable is the reason why I've always played wisp when she came out. I will now be getting this frame next, I've never heard of him
I just got him by the time you uploaded this video. Great timing
Lavos has another thing going for him that i find nice; subsumed abilities actually make him _weaker._
His kit has all the versatility you need becauae if you play the Debuff game like I do, losing an element to work with is like a gut punch.
Don't like vial rush? You get no viral.
Dont like probe? You get no radiation and corrosive.
Etc etc. Lavos does best vanilla, to fully take advantage of these (surprisingly) strong debuff effects.
Tip if you really are having a hard time to decide which element is best at a certain situation.
Use cold. No kidding, use cold as it slows down the enemy giving you some breathing space as the slow effect of cold isn't a movement speed slow, its an animation slow which also affects the enemies damage output, so if you are panicking at situation, hold 2 then press 2 or 4 it's not on cooldown.
I feel ya, I used Atlas for most of the star chart for similar reasons (chill/ resilient) but I never got comfortable with Lavos. I guess it's a good time (after Plague Star sitting on hundreds of forma) to give my Lavos build a reassessment.
I main Lavos! It is my favorite frame in any situation. Not only does he tank but with Valence Formation paired with his signature weapon, Cedo, he's a killing machine
This is pretty similar to my reasoning for Nezha as a go-to; his chakram gives him some unique mobility and can get him around spaces i find tough to navigate otherwise (that one quarter circle room on the galleon tileset, for example), as well as being a great damage buff if I choose to use it. On top of that, its ability to make enemies shit health orbs like a rabbit on ex-lax makes Equilibrium a very attractive energy solution meaning he really doesn;t run out. His Halo makes him extremely survivable, and with his augment I can share that with teammates and defense objectives, which is especially useful in rad hazard sorties. His 4 provides solid crowd control, and functions as a nuke at low levels. He's comfortable to play at any level, and his deluxe skin makes him very enjoyable to look at while I do. He's got great generic utility, and his toolset makes him a solid pick for pretty much everything. I still switch it up pretty often, of course, and he's hardly perfect, but he's 100% my comfort pick.
I use Lavos as my main. I've Helminthed Nourish over Vial Rush and added Combat Discipline as one of my mods. Then I have Cedo, Kuva Nukor and Broken War.
I've stacked as many elements as possible. I fire the Cedo glaive then immediately switch to my Nukor to get as many elements on the enemies as possible. It makes Catalyse go off like a nuke.
Watching this made me realize why I don't like playing Lavos. He's just decent to very good at everything. No huge strength, no huge weakness, just a solid pick all around. Since I mostly play Limbo or Harrow, who need constant adult supervision, playing a frame that's so chill just feels wierd to me
lavos has 2 huge strengths being that he is insanely tankey, and has every enemies weakness at hand to nuke everything, but since he has everythings elemental weakness, it feels less like a strength for sure
he feels odd to play, but if you ever want to shut your brain off, he can be a bit of fun to just zip around with
Lavos infuses blast when vial rushing into extraction, because it fills the end-of-mission screen with giant obnoxious rocks and explosions
Lavos is my go-to for endurance and railjack content specifically because of the cooldown instead of energy
Since Lavos was released, I used him for every quest since then. Can't wait for Whispers in the Walls.
Lavos is really a good and unique frame. I hope he get more cosmetics options soon
seeing we are now at gauss prime getting launched, that means lavos prime is coming up extremely quickly and im insanely excited!
@@bugsmith9751 For sure!!! I'm curious for his prime visual and a future void shell skin
my go to for railjack just for the sheer comfort of exchanging energy management to cooldowns just to not press more keys at a time
I haven't even finished the video yet but I started using Lavos thanks to you and I will NEVER look back. (Except when I play Harrow)
As a new player who’s been playing for 2 weeks, I need to go get Lavos. Granted, I don’t have many warframes unlocked, but I haven’t really found one that speaks to me yet. I’m crafting my first prime frame, khora prime, right now, but Lavos is definitely up next on my to do list
Lavos was my first dedicated wf i've been forma (spent 16 formas on him), nuke steel path eximus heavy gunner 165 with overguard active with lavos abilities only + Sickening Pulse (no primer needed) is fun, just by casting abilities EVERYTHING melt
the advantage of health tanking is that it lets you know you've been in a survival for too long once you get oneshot.
after being a Lavos main from when he came out til about the end of last year (I gave him a break for a while) you have rekindled my interest in my ultimate main warframe. I have 7 forma (including an umbral) 5 archon shards and six configs for him (each using a different helminth + vanilla Lavos on one) I both look forward to and dread the day Lavos Prime comes out because I will have to do all that investment again, simply because I must!
Lavos actually can compose a sonnet, but you have to use the element Blast. 🙂
It seems like with all the changes (especially to pets lately) there have to be some wild new Lavos synergies.
Its nice that he's kinda tanky, but you really have to dig deep to make his abilities be relevant.
I really like using the Mecha set on lavos, he's been my favorite ever since he came out
My go to frame is Revanent with Chains of Harrow. I mainly die when I get distracted for too long.
I didn’t know his 3 opens up enemies to finishers as well. But…
I’ll be that guy and point out that Lavos’s duration affects weapons’ status duration, so technically Lavos is *not fully* unobtrusive in that regard. 🤓
Hell yeah, Tenno!
Give Lavos more love so that he can become popular and get a awesome deluxe skin! 😁
Lavos is one of my absolute favorites too!
I love lavos. He doesn't feel very squishy, and I don't have to rely on energy, which I seem to be terrible at managing
I've stopped using lavos as my comfortable frame since I picked up dagath, but he was my comfort frame for a long time because I don't actually enjoy spamming abilities most of the time and as a frame he just doesn't need to. Sure, you can get a lot of damage out of his 4 or chain cc two entire rooms with his 2, but just having a heal on demand with his 1 and status immunity from his passive made him the perfect choice as a weapons platform, since that was how I used him.
you wanna play 'resource manager 3.0'? play anything else. you wanna enjoy 90% of warframe all the time, everytime? you play lavos ;)
I love the ability to just not have to constantly dump mental energy into survival, it's such an underrated skill that you can't measure strictly in DPS numbers and build statistics. Grendel is another fantastic example of a frame that can do this- a full shield recovery build on him recovers his shieldgate so fast you can literally AFK in the middle of a Steel Path survival mission, check the mail, make a sandwich, come back a minute later and still see him facetanking a dozen lv 200+ enemies without seeing his health even go down a tick. How many other frames can passively ignore damage this hard realistically? Even Revenant's mesmer skins will run out, Octavia's invisibility needs regular interactive refreshing, and any frame that depends on ability spam to survive will get shredded almost immediately if you don't constantly pay attention to their shields. The feeling of comfort from knowing you don't have to babysit a frame constantly to keep them from being instantly vaporized is incredibly freeing gameplay-wise. The only other frames with that level of passive, extremely low management survivability are Ivara and certain extremely durable health tanks like Inaros and Lavos mentioned here.
For me, Oberon is my "main" warframe, for a lot of the same reasons. He's not as adaptable as Lavos, but in terms of resilience and unobtrusiveness I'd say it's similar. With Phoenix Renewal running, I can do mostly what I want without focusing on staying alive.
I do love apple pies, but not as much as some others, especially banana cream or pecan pie.
Lavos's kit is so well designed it isn't even funny. He's a jack of all trades, but isn't mediocre at what he does at all. On top of being fairly tanky & fully self sufficient without needing energy, he can do so much with just his abilities. Need healing? Swift Bite can get you to full easily. Want a bit of extra speed? Vial Rush goes a pretty far distance with a short cooldown, so you're in luck. Wanna support the rest of your team & yourself? Probe creates easy universal ammo and orbs for your entire team to enjoy. Wanna spread status? Catalyze and Cedo's glaives. He is so good at everything he does (which is basically everything) and I think that's half the reason i main him
As a Lavos main, you make me so happy XDc
For me lavos is just fun to play and takes work. Other frames you just spam the same buttons and get you the whole map cleared.
People often ask why i didn't build this way or that way, why i use this kind of weapons on this frame, etc ...
And my answer is always the same :
This may not be the most efficient, but this is more that enough to clear fast the mission, and i'm having more fun like that !
Lavos became my Arbitration frame for a decent chunk of time while I was farming those for Galvanised mods and Arcane Pistoleers. His abilities never feel like they're churning through enemies, sucking them up into a convenient ball or buffing him for a bajillion damage, but he always was able to make their day worse and I was always running in a squad spreading their buffs around anyway.
Also his inherent use of duration on status was nice too. I tried to build around the aura mod that causes heavy attacks to deal extra status damage, Pennant and the teleporting heavy attack mods and... well, it didn't work, but it was a fun idea none the less I might have to revisit with Kullervo's 1.
Lavos is just so versatile and an insanely good weapon platform now with his augment. He literally hits every single one of my niches perfectly and I love him.
Non-Spammy? Check.
Tanky? Check.
Status immunity passive? Check.
Can heal himself? Check.
Fast? Check.
Doesn't need energy? OMEGA Check.
Decent AOE damage? Check.
Has a reason to use a Kubrow? Check.
Buffs the fuck out of your weapon damage in any element you want with his augment? Check.
Idk why people don't like him. Like oh wow you can't spam your 4th ability to kill an entire room every millisecond, boo hoo. There are plenty of primaries out there that can wipe rooms too.
I've been anticipating getting to play Lavos for a while, since he feels like a really unique frame (and I like those). This vid sold me on him even more.
As for favorite frames, personally, I main Harrow. He's always got something to do, and he allows me to contribute to my team, even if I'm out of my depth in a certain mission. That with the extra fire rate, constant easy shields, and red crits just makes him really fun for me. I like it when a character's whole kit synergizes with itself, and Harrow is exactly that. Sure, he's not the best frame, and he has been powercrept (and he also demands quite a bit of focus). But he just offers something that nobody else really does. Even if his farm is a right pain in the ass.
Besides, if I want to play more relaxed, I always have frames like Styanax.
With the shards, Lavos prime is going to destroy I can't wait
Mm yes there are so many things I love about Lavos and you've hit pretty much all of them. I press a lot of buttons, and enjoy niche tech, and this frame is so perfect for all of that. Did you know that you can jump and even *bullet jump* out of Vial Rush too? For even smoother movement options.
And, for bonus points, having access to every element in the game means that we eat excellently whenever DE tries to buff a lesser used status. All of the recent and upcoming cold changes are nothing but positive since I Vial Rush around everywhere anyway. "There's no reason to imbue Blast" might actually become outdated if the new Blast status that hits in a few days is sufficiently good for either killing or CC. I'm excited to find out.
Ive havent had a mcdonalds apple pie for like 5+ years
I'm not a streamer but as a Lavos main since orphix venom all I can do is agree fully. So hyped for his prime 🎉
im excited for his prime as well, its either going to look extremely good, or weirder than hell, and i embrace both!
I wonder how long we'll have to wait for his prime?
Lavos and Citrine; I play them interchangeably, but if there was a way to do it simultaneously...
hey just a reminder but Lavos is due for a prime end of next year if i have it right.
I mean yeah that's fair. Most people want a just "play the game" frame that can do everything up to or a bit past a 10 minute steel path survival. For me thats Gauss as im ok with poping another 3 ablilities every minute or so but Grendel, Rhino, Wukong, Nezha, all kinda do the same thing. They dont die and have some buff to go with that, whether that be speed, damage, or in Lavos's case high status uptime without worrying about energy.
Lavos is what comfort inaros tries to give
You forgot to mention his unrivaled drip
I do like him, because he gives quite a lot, and asks for very little. The status rework made him so much more powerful
As a Lavos main, the Warframe is simply fun and engaging, being able to change the elements on the go is simply a really nice touch that not many warframes have and is by far in my opinion, one of the best passives available. From tankyness, to sustain, to speed, go general utility, Lavos is an all rounder that tickles every good aspect of the game, while also removing the aspect of "energy" from ability casts, one of my main pros about Lavos.
My dad used to make green tomato pie and tell people it was apple pie. It tasted like it, too.
I did not see this in the video so for any players who do not know this, with his second ability you can cancel it by double jumping, if I recall correctly, allowing him to hop out of the animation so if you need you can cancel and transition into any other parkour options for maneuverability. Good informative video, while Lavos is not my favorite I can see why some would like him and his kit does feel fun. Thanks for the video was a good watch.
@thekengineer can you make or share a updated lavos build. I really like the build you made 3 y ago but would like to slot it swift bite but I feel that removing strength will make him weaker
I used mainly Lavos ever since he was released (until Voruna came along with pure aggression) and he's still one of my favorite frame for all the reasons you mentionned. Always know it's going to be a long run when he pops up in Duviri circuit.
Quick question, I've noticed that you've been hit at least once in the video by energy leaches, yet you didn't get the annoying magnetic proc, how? Are you using arcane nullifier or is there some other way to turn off at least it's visual part?
Lavos has status immunity for 10 seconds on picking up an energy/universal orb. Between that and Wyrm Prime in some clips, that's what's doing it.
When lavos picks up an energy/universal orb, he gains a few seconds of status immunity, it may not be the reason in the vid, but its a reason
That's Lavos' passive, when he picks up an energy orb he gets 10 sec of status immunity. There is a cool interaction with his 3rd that transmutes health orbs into universal orbs and if you have a way to pick up health orbs at full health, such as the synth fiber mod you basically have full status immunity forever
@@TheKengineer ah I forgot that's his passive XD. And here I thought that maybe there's a way to turn off the magnetic visual effect
Lavos is also my main and my friend that I play with all the time always tries to get me to swap off, or doesnt get why I like lavos. But ya, he is just an insanely chill frame. I feel like he is such an amazing warframe to use if you arent sure what to use
if your friend has never used lavos, he probably doesnt understand, i got my lavos at the tail end of orphix venom, and the entire time before i got him, when one of my friends used him, i could barely tell he was using any abilities ever, and he seemed weak cause his abilities are so subtle, but i would see at the end of a mission he would often get like 80% damage and was using his abilities constantly
after i got lavos, i realized, to others he just looks like hes just there not doing much, but when you play him you can feel just how much raw power he has! if vauban didnt exist, i would be a lavos main
I like apple pies, but only good ones :)
not enough people has read the blue screen text I think >.>
i'd like him a lot more if h stored elements between casts.
as-is lavos is probably the clunkiest frame to use.
Hey Kengineer...when it comes to Lavos you are preaching to the choir, my friend. Lavos is my default frame for almost everything. Elemental buffed 4th skill is great for add clearing or for just enough space to breath at the business end of a survival, but in all you have mentioned I haven't seen your eval of "Swift Bite" but not on "Valence Formation" for Lavos. Is it worth getting and how would you use it? Lavos has great Status potential so I would think it could be quite useful...what do you think? Thanks Ken...
swift bite should always be there cus ur 3 isnt enough to lower ur cooldowns
and for valance formation
it makes him an amazing weapon platform
When built right Lavos can be a super tank with 40k EHP and insane regen.
Id be curious to se what mods and archon crystals you use if any
Lavos is also oddly good AoE nuker. His 4 has old unnerfed Condition overload effect in it. With some trickery you can spread super Gas clouds that kill everything up to lvl 9999. Pretty fun.
Lavos doesnt really need any Helminth abilities, but his 2 is least important ability, so you can exchange some traveling speed with Sickening Pulse for example.
i would personally argue that his 2 is his second strongest just because it leaves plumes of lingering status effects and when it ends it does a large radial burst that scales with ability range, but the only subsume i use on him is golden instinct on a loot build, which replaces his 1
@th9751 Yeah, it's his shortest cooldown and an amazing tool for CO melee, it scoots you straight into the next group and primes them at the same time. With Archon Continuity it can even outright kill armored enemies by itself, stacking huge amounts of toxin/corrosive on anything that touches the puddles.
finally. lavos getting noticed.
0:45 OI. it should be excal. you just run and press buttons and things die in an area and his 4 is a excuse to just hold down melee and walk at stuff. not sure how it gets more simple than that.
It takes time to realize good decoy placement cause of it's low health so to confuse enemies and not have it instantly go kaput _(stick it behind boxes or at higher elevations or in spots that need a bit of parkour and enemies in the area just kinda have a mental breakdown at it)_.
Takes a hot minute or two to notice why you might want to remove enemy weapons and bait them towards a point instead of why not just give them murder from invis _(it's actually pretty good to have enemies just come at you so you can lead them into other rooms, like say towards a kuva lich who can still convert enemies?)_ also stops you dieing instantly upon getting out of invis.
also takes a moment to realize you can swap with the clone and the usefulness of this. --like if you're trash at navigating spy the manual way.--
He's got moderate complexity for his simplicity and for what he is. Some of this complexity of which only dawned on myself personally _(a user who started with loki in the old days, barely got anywhere, then came back during the more modern times of fortuna)_ after I got loki prime almost a year later and had only really been using his invis at the time and struggling through all else in the starchart. I main him now and he's my "chill-out time" frame.
Anyways, Lavos is a really good "I don't feel like going down right now, but I still want to be useful" kinda frame. So you pretty much got it all.
Lavos has an important hidden passive on the new alchemy missions: he's 25% more fun than any other Warframe on them
The Kengineer is the TRUE Lavos Enjoyer.
I myself am a Limbo main but I think I can give the perfect reason despite not playing Lavos much. He is complex and fun. Enough said.
As a limbo main, the way you describe lavos with his chill utility is pretty similar to how I would for my main.
In other words: Frames are like a car - sure, a car that’s faster out of the factory than another is superficially better and you can make tier list about it till your blue in the face. But with enough practice and understanding of its quirks and handling, and optimizing what you got under the hood, can practically make anything you use be better than any stock choice.
Lavos is definitley worth using if thats your type of playstyle and you worry about faction weakness elements, my main is hydroid due to his passive playstyle and how versatile he can be in terms of farming for resources when augmented.
lavos doesnt even need to worry about faction weaknesses unless hes at very high levels, i have found that just hitting his 4 without any added element can kill standard units in 1 use up to lvl75, and if you just mindlessly apply elements and viral rush around the place, that lvl 75 cap goes way up and includes many heavy units
ok, im sold
Dude I don't know if you've noticed or anyone else has said this, you sound exactly, EXACTLY like Drusus, the Leverian Caretaker!
A Warframe not being able to stealth hasn't been an issue since operators have been a thing so that's not even a problem for Lavos
I bought Lagos with plat the moment he came out and immediately loved him, still my main Frame to this day, use him for near everything and practically studied his kit and synergies. Love his design, kit, lore… everything! The fact that we now have an alchemy themed game mode with the ‘Whispers in the Walls’ update you can imagine how I’ve been grinding melee arcanes with my Alchemist of chance in that XD
2:44 Wow that aged poorly hahahahaha
Blast is quite literally my go to Element Post Reworks on Lavos
when paired with Valence Fusion it turns every weapon into an AoE Demon