@@WildFenrir I wasnt forced to, i chose to because it let me better coordinate the monkeys that are my clan mates and make sure that nobody went down.
@@lunasterling4009 the best reason for playing healer 🤣 "I'm not running heals because I want to, but because the rest of you are too stupid to do it or stay alive without me doing it" 😂😂
As a baby Tenno playing in a squad of baby Tennos in 2016 we found that if you don't learn quickly how to mod, things after level 60 start to go south, fast, lol but thanks to one of the baby Tennos running his Trinity we survived (the 3 of us got reezed like 5 times lol) The fun fact is that the Tenno running the Trinity was a medic IRL he often said "In real life I work as a medic, but having to resurrect you guys every few minutes is ridiculous" 🤣
The irony is, even after playing for most of a decade, I still don't feel like I know how to mod sometimes. Particularly when I see the raw damage some min/maxers out there get. Then I remember that for 99% of content, those min/maxed builds are such a level of overkill and require so much resource investment, there's no point except for showing off.
They (DE) will change periodically certain parameters so the game will never feel the same but being the same, lol, but it works for them so they have always work to do, undo and re-do.
2012 veteran here, anyone remember when exterminate missions required you to kill enemies before doors would open to more rooms to progress, but it was a 50/50 chance that there would be 1 or 2 enemies spawned outside the tilesets, preventing you from finishing missions?
If you were on volt and the electronics in the ship weren't down you could sometimes kill mobs 5 rooms down to get the required kills. The electricity would arc from all the lights to mobs. With ult ofc.
That was some of the most annoying shit, I swear!! I remember one time I managed to pull them into the set to open the door as Mag, and the other 3 people looked at me with the look that said "hax"
I joined after that, but I was around for the exterminate missions where the game only spawned the kill count amount of enemies. And then you would often miss one somewhere. You would get to the end and then need to backtrack to find that last enemy,.
Same. I was here from the very start. The addition of teenagers gave me real mixed feelings. Must not be alone since DE finally decided to let us replace them with an adult.
@JohnsonJohnsonJohnson-j6r That I do remember. I remember using it in Nightmare missions, where low gravity would make you soar into the sky. I was so sad when it got removed. How nieve I was. Exalted blade for a hop? Worth.
I mean you could consider me a veteran of 2014… if you count 2 hours of playtime then quitting and the 10 year gap since I laid a finger on the game :)
It's never Titania vs the rest of the roster because Volt and Gauss can actually steer, while Titania has a tier list for the flavour of each tileset's walls.
So I play on a switch lite and I once put all of the speed mods I had on gauss I think it got to like 25 or 30 along with doing circuit when you could get 3 of the speed decree and I started moving so fast the game forcibly logged me out
@ghost1947-jaybird well, yes, but _that_ is a broad term used for things that are distant, and so when pointing at a banger song amidst many other banger songs that DE cooked, the joke is proved feasible
the modding is soo true,took me 1.3k+ hours to finally realize i never actually know how to mod. After lots of math ,lvl cap and testing, i can proudly say i understand 50% of the modding system and how the game actually do their math, and i manage to output at least 45% more dmg than i used to in lvl cap, imagine if i finally fully grasp the modding techniques, i will be the literal god of warframe and demolish lvl9999
Modding weapon: slash for big DMG, viral for more damage, fire and/or corrosive (aka armor reduction) for no more less damage, crits for spicy damage. Modding Warframe: no more shields -> invincibility (optional) -> shields. Repeat.
Yeah, that Frost meme is a bit behind. Frost has been getting real strong lately, just not with direct reworks or buffs. The New War bit is on point though.
@@WildFenrir He's still mainly a defensive pick, but being able to generate overguard with an augment, there being an arcane all about freezing enemies, and the freeze status effect being reworked to be stronger, he can be QUITE useful. Saw a few in the last week alone. It's just a matter of people overlooking him creeping up in power to be useful again.
@@bthsr7113 Also I dunno if you knew, but Frost's Augment "Biting Frost", the one that gives 200% Crit chance and 200% crit dmg scales multiplicative to some of the weapons like incarnons or primes, I've got a screenshot showing All of the weapons that scale By x instead of + if you wanted, for example, one of them is the grimoire, it can turn like a 4x Crit multiplier into a 12x thanks to the Augment
See I remember back when the game first dropped not the slow paced stealth fireteam version but the early "you're a god of endless unknown" and seeing it now how nothing really changed everything just became faster with bigger numbers is weirdly staggering
I started my journey of warframe a few weeks before the second dream arrived to PC. As much as I love Duviri, the newer quests and what is to come in 1999, the second dream all the way to new war is peak storytelling.
2015 vet here and to be frank this WHOLE VID hits SO HARD! Like, 3 frames are faster than Volt now? Nova is TRASH?!? Ember can't set the world on fire fallout style?!?!? "You're one of those heros aren't you." "Not anymore..." so accurate. Damn that one hurt.
Veteran player here since orphix venom and Scarlett spear. Dude I was watching some rly old gameplays of Warframe and it made me wonder if that was the same game I'm still playing nowadays: pay for revive, DNA reconstitution.. Goddamn bro time really passes huh? Although the frames were way weaker than what we have now, bro I'd never thought I would see my mesa prime red crit enemies so easily..
Wait. People who joined close to Scarlet Spear are considered veterans now?? I started during Buried Debts and I still consider myself to be just average.
I started during Cicero Crisis! Couldnt play too much since the laptop I had BARELY handled it, but I got a good enough one for Glast Gambit, and discovered my love for Nidus. I'd call myself a veteran player.
I started in 2015 i believe... on and off everything added has consistently blown me away. Relearning movement teq and relearning my frames and weapons each time is insane when i get into warframe im back for months. The game is just so good
I'm a 2012 Vet. When Melee had no stances. When there was no orbiter, just a map. When Ember Prime was the new kid on the tileset. It is crazy how much changed.
Remember when ember skill 4 with augment can knock down enemies? And you just afk at center while doing other things while your team take care the rest
ok but Ballas stabbing the tenno before his Narmar arch hit different, i remember doing the mission for the first time not realizing how attached to the tenno i became through out the story lines 😂
New players have duviri drifter access so they'll never experience this but I remember it auto-created a drifter based on your operator. For the reveal I got jumpscared by a chainsmoker.
I was hoping for a Natah bossfight. In hindsight, it probably wouldnt have fit the narrative that well, but I was hoping for it at the time. That beinf said, one or two more missions to show Ballas and his "grand plan" woulda been nice. He just kinda says "I'm your friend and being enslaved by the Lotus" and then turns around and says "oooh I'm secretly evil and in control now"
Okay the first one fucking hurt. Cause I’ve had to say goodbye to some of the best gaming friends I’ve ever had. And being reminded that I’m never gonna talk to or play with them again makes me want to breakdown
Why not both? Sure my Titania is crazy stupid fast, but I built her for endurance. Like 5 minutes+ of flight time from just max prime flow, max duration, and max efficiency. Not counting energize orb pick ups, void death ball energy, or energy pads if you are truly desperate.
played from Feb 2014 up until second dream, then on and off whenever I would find myself on console (not very often). Now that there is account merging I've been going at it with 400 hours in the last month. Super happy with everything that has been added and the crazy build potential we have now. Also I find it funny how warframe has a pretty respectable player population (more players on steam than destiny 2) but everyone treats it like a niche thing because it's not quite mainstream, but it's still very successful lol
for someone who have played this from 2014 and I also just have a 6 digit password which is now illegal just to share, this hits home and this hits hard
man i wouldn’t use either. arc warlock is easily the worst subclass in the game(worse than void titan, hunter has no bad subclasses imo.) chaos reach and stormcaller are poop and so is banshees fourth
"Can you run Trinity"
Me a Trinity main- It's the only thing i do.
And your appreciated
Wait, you exist?
@@erikknudsenmork4536 yes
@@erikknudsenmork4536 we do.
someone get this guy into captivity ._.
as a 2015 player, everything hits hard.
Also, I can run Trinity. She's a war veteran in the raids back in the day.
True that. She's an og fr. But during days of raids more often than not u were forced to run her. Understandably so tho.
Valkyr was the revive medic, due to her invulnerability at the time.
amen. same here
@@WildFenrir I wasnt forced to, i chose to because it let me better coordinate the monkeys that are my clan mates and make sure that nobody went down.
@@lunasterling4009 the best reason for playing healer 🤣 "I'm not running heals because I want to, but because the rest of you are too stupid to do it or stay alive without me doing it" 😂😂
As a baby Tenno playing in a squad of baby Tennos in 2016 we found that if you don't learn quickly how to mod, things after level 60 start to go south, fast, lol but thanks to one of the baby Tennos running his Trinity we survived (the 3 of us got reezed like 5 times lol)
The fun fact is that the Tenno running the Trinity was a medic IRL he often said "In real life I work as a medic, but having to resurrect you guys every few minutes is ridiculous" 🤣
That guy is hilarious.
The irony is, even after playing for most of a decade, I still don't feel like I know how to mod sometimes. Particularly when I see the raw damage some min/maxers out there get. Then I remember that for 99% of content, those min/maxed builds are such a level of overkill and require so much resource investment, there's no point except for showing off.
They (DE) will change periodically certain parameters so the game will never feel the same but being the same, lol, but it works for them so they have always work to do, undo and re-do.
2012 veteran here, anyone remember when exterminate missions required you to kill enemies before doors would open to more rooms to progress, but it was a 50/50 chance that there would be 1 or 2 enemies spawned outside the tilesets, preventing you from finishing missions?
Wasn't there... but man... that sounds like a massive L... and I thought having the enemies die too fast in lith relic missions was bad...
If you were on volt and the electronics in the ship weren't down you could sometimes kill mobs 5 rooms down to get the required kills. The electricity would arc from all the lights to mobs. With ult ofc.
That was some of the most annoying shit, I swear!! I remember one time I managed to pull them into the set to open the door as Mag, and the other 3 people looked at me with the look that said "hax"
I joined after that, but I was around for the exterminate missions where the game only spawned the kill count amount of enemies. And then you would often miss one somewhere. You would get to the end and then need to backtrack to find that last enemy,.
@pepperjack8813 So much this. Speed running T3 exterminate and you missed 1 guy all the way at the start. Lol. With stam8na bars.
I remember when Ash’s teleport was an actual animation that you had to watch which would make you invincible until it was over
Re-downloading Warframe right now for Ash Prime ponytail physics + drip
I remember when it *didn't* make you invincible.
It was funny af on enemies with insane health. Level 100 enemy Juggernaut? Press 4 and go on a toilet break
Five years to complete ash ult cus you had to watch each kill.
Ballas would homelander IRL 😂
Both absolute menaces
Ballas would out-gaslight homelander
ballas is the homelander of warframe.
I was here when operetors where added
Now its wild west of a game
Same. I was here from the very start. The addition of teenagers gave me real mixed feelings. Must not be alone since DE finally decided to let us replace them with an adult.
I felt old after reading thst
@@sanuku535 first time?
@@sanuku535I'll do worse. Remember when excal had an ability that just made him jump high?
@JohnsonJohnsonJohnson-j6r That I do remember. I remember using it in Nightmare missions, where low gravity would make you soar into the sky. I was so sad when it got removed.
How nieve I was. Exalted blade for a hop? Worth.
I mean you could consider me a veteran of 2014… if you count 2 hours of playtime then quitting and the 10 year gap since I laid a finger on the game :)
Nah.
No
Veterans are measured by play time ... account time.
It's measured in playtime not the amount of time it's been sitting in your library.
Uh… guys I know I’m just making a little quip here a little fun joke, sorry that I didn’t make that obvious :(
I miss when weapons did self damage. Nothing was funnier that miss-clicking and blowing your team up.
Watching Chroma’s spamming hikou into ground to get their buffs
Nah not with all the aoe weapons in the game now
blame shy
When Bastile trapped enemies and other frames >:D
the trinity glaive prime combo
3:10 the only reason it’s always been volt vs gauss is cause Titania flys its kind of unfair if I bring my aircraft to a car race
You mean like Superman vs Flash?
Y'all can fight for second. I'm waiting at the dropship
@@Nickfookerno cause that’d mean gauss/volt is faster, which as much as I’d want that to be the truth, it really just isnt
revenant solos
@@appol2584 I'm just talking about the context of Titania flying vs Gauss/Volt running is like Super racing with The Flash
It's never Titania vs the rest of the roster because Volt and Gauss can actually steer, while Titania has a tier list for the flavour of each tileset's walls.
It's completely opposite. Also corpus walls taste the best.
@@mechaSurgeyeah infested walls give ya every disease known to man so best not to taste those
So I play on a switch lite and I once put all of the speed mods I had on gauss I think it got to like 25 or 30 along with doing circuit when you could get 3 of the speed decree and I started moving so fast the game forcibly logged me out
@@mechaSurgeyea try steering a 350 str titania with ONE stack of razorwing while sprinting. i’ll wait
3:41 I'm sorry, J-A-I-D-E? J-Eye-D?
they cooked with that song fr
They really did
DE music department always cooks with songs, right now, they cooked so well with party of your lifetime
"Do you have any idea of how little that narrows it down?"
@@platinumgames1314isn’t it the sevagoth mission mission?
@ghost1947-jaybird well, yes, but _that_ is a broad term used for things that are distant, and so when pointing at a banger song amidst many other banger songs that DE cooked, the joke is proved feasible
the modding is soo true,took me 1.3k+ hours to finally realize i never actually know how to mod. After lots of math ,lvl cap and testing, i can proudly say i understand 50% of the modding system and how the game actually do their math, and i manage to output at least 45% more dmg than i used to in lvl cap, imagine if i finally fully grasp the modding techniques, i will be the literal god of warframe and demolish lvl9999
Modding weapon: slash for big DMG, viral for more damage, fire and/or corrosive (aka armor reduction) for no more less damage, crits for spicy damage.
Modding Warframe: no more shields -> invincibility (optional) -> shields. Repeat.
@@iamlostintime3343 slash ain't what it used to be tbh.
Elementals just scale better most of the time
honestly just search for dmg cap builds and you are good to go lmao
6:44 this song and "We All Lift Together" are bangers
For narmer
Party of your lifetime
They cooked so hard
The kitchen burned
that 2015-veteran/soldier76 meme hit so hard.
Yeah, that Frost meme is a bit behind. Frost has been getting real strong lately, just not with direct reworks or buffs. The New War bit is on point though.
I'm surprised actually. I haven't seen a Frost in a public mission in over a month.
@@WildFenrir He's still mainly a defensive pick, but being able to generate overguard with an augment, there being an arcane all about freezing enemies, and the freeze status effect being reworked to be stronger, he can be QUITE useful. Saw a few in the last week alone.
It's just a matter of people overlooking him creeping up in power to be useful again.
@@bthsr7113 Also I dunno if you knew, but Frost's Augment "Biting Frost", the one that gives 200% Crit chance and 200% crit dmg scales multiplicative to some of the weapons like incarnons or primes, I've got a screenshot showing All of the weapons that scale By x instead of + if you wanted, for example, one of them is the grimoire, it can turn like a 4x Crit multiplier into a 12x thanks to the Augment
many of those memes are outdated already, still funny tho
@@bootlegdiobrando6163 I was hitting 2M-4M with Dread after freezing enemies lmao
My frost prime collecting dust felt this.
Frost was my very first main. I enjoyed it a lot except for always being the very slowest guy on any squad.
0:16 the irony of Destiny 2 (Journey) music playing in the background
Hunter main here, and that hit like a truck ):
5:13 music fits the scene WAY too well haah
9:35....RIGHT!!!!!!
This video tells almost every aspects of warframe and it is perfection 😂😂😂
Glad you like it ♥️
@@WildFenrir ty man :)
See I remember back when the game first dropped not the slow paced stealth fireteam version but the early "you're a god of endless unknown" and seeing it now how nothing really changed everything just became faster with bigger numbers is weirdly staggering
"Can you run Trinity" wow, where's that gif of Matt Damon aging when you need it?! 😂
I started my journey of warframe a few weeks before the second dream arrived to PC. As much as I love Duviri, the newer quests and what is to come in 1999, the second dream all the way to new war is peak storytelling.
It's been so long since I've played the first banger main story quests, I might have to replay everything before 1999 comes out
Duviri other then incarnons is easily the worst of what warframe has to offer
Same. It's crazy how simmilar the game feels despite how different it has become. I miss the old corpus ship tiles.
2015 vet here and to be frank this WHOLE VID hits SO HARD! Like, 3 frames are faster than Volt now? Nova is TRASH?!? Ember can't set the world on fire fallout style?!?!? "You're one of those heros aren't you." "Not anymore..." so accurate. Damn that one hurt.
Now, Nova is OP. They heard you
@@lorddimus saw this comment went back and rebuilt Nova... ok THIS is the Nova I remember. Now if we could get "World on fire" back...
That baro one got me good bc its too darn true
The Frost main meme hits hard, looking at my Frost and Galatine most used since 2014...
Veteran player here since orphix venom and Scarlett spear.
Dude I was watching some rly old gameplays of Warframe and it made me wonder if that was the same game I'm still playing nowadays: pay for revive, DNA reconstitution..
Goddamn bro time really passes huh?
Although the frames were way weaker than what we have now, bro I'd never thought I would see my mesa prime red crit enemies so easily..
DE has really improved on a lot of things over the years. Still some improvements that can be made ngl. But still
Wait. People who joined close to Scarlet Spear are considered veterans now?? I started during Buried Debts and I still consider myself to be just average.
I started before Fortuna even existed, geez…
July 2013 here, I was actually the first person to guess Vauban in the How Is Booben Formed thread ten years ago.
I started during Cicero Crisis! Couldnt play too much since the laptop I had BARELY handled it, but I got a good enough one for Glast Gambit, and discovered my love for Nidus. I'd call myself a veteran player.
played since Jan 2014, left the game for like 6-7 years. the sukuna meme is on point after returning lmao so much to do to catch up
The first meme is ACTUALLY me. 2499 days is about 7 years and I stopped playing around when Excalibur Umbra came out which is almost 7 years ago now.
I started in 2015 i believe... on and off everything added has consistently blown me away. Relearning movement teq and relearning my frames and weapons each time is insane when i get into warframe im back for months. The game is just so good
November/december 2012 (cant remember exactly) vet here, back when open testing was out. So many of my friends havent logged on in thousands of days.
I'm a 2012 Vet.
When Melee had no stances. When there was no orbiter, just a map. When Ember Prime was the new kid on the tileset.
It is crazy how much changed.
Man, remind me not to cite the Deep Magic to you.
Remember when ember skill 4 with augment can knock down enemies? And you just afk at center while doing other things while your team take care the rest
0:09
Journey is still a masterpiece of a song.
Sukuna meme hits hard ✋😭😔
Things have really changed up over the years.
the watching warframe trailers is so good omg
2014 veteran here.
you started with all the hits, then it went a little off course but the baro kiteer one broke me.
the volt and gauss main is so accurate lmao
This is golden, not like primes nowdays golden, but like the void key golden.
ok but Ballas stabbing the tenno before his Narmar arch hit different, i remember doing the mission for the first time not realizing how attached to the tenno i became through out the story lines 😂
New players have duviri drifter access so they'll never experience this but I remember it auto-created a drifter based on your operator. For the reveal I got jumpscared by a chainsmoker.
Ah yes, ballas, the manchild who threw a temper tantrum called the new war.
The reveal was very very disappointing.
If you know anything about despots, it was entirely expected.
incredibly petty, woefully short sighted... utterly him.
Honestly yeah. The fact that they swapped Erra and him out of nowhere just destroyed my enjoyment for that.
Yeah New War was just not good, ended like a wet fart
I was hoping for a Natah bossfight.
In hindsight, it probably wouldnt have fit the narrative that well, but I was hoping for it at the time.
That beinf said, one or two more missions to show Ballas and his "grand plan" woulda been nice. He just kinda says "I'm your friend and being enslaved by the Lotus" and then turns around and says "oooh I'm secretly evil and in control now"
1:19 WHY IS THIS SO REAAAL
I'm a gauss main and personally i like volt main, we both running
I remember when one of Excaliburs abilities was a high jump.
hahaha all of these was great keep it up
Appreciate it ♥️
man, warframe has come a long way
Can confirm volt v gauss is more of a friendly handshake. My homie runs speed volt while I'm on gauss. We RUN the map in mere seconds and clear routes
It's funny...cause my build for Frost Prime is called Lich King. And you can be damn sure i made my Ash look like Batman
The Baro Ki'Teer one got me.
The first one hit me on a spiritual level
The GoW returning player part got me really good 😂😂😂
the titania meme was personal hahaha
Okay the first one fucking hurt. Cause I’ve had to say goodbye to some of the best gaming friends I’ve ever had. And being reminded that I’m never gonna talk to or play with them again makes me want to breakdown
Okay, 2:10 actually made me laugh. Well played.
I was playing Skyrim at that moment! 🤣
0:57 I just watched that cutscene two days ago and this is so funny!!!
the emotional roller coaster I got from watching this.. damn...
Speed Titania is overrated. Our role is CAS, not being a fighter plane. We need control over our movement and to actually hit targets. Hard.
In my mind Jade is an apache gunship.
@@jeff8833 Personally I'd say more ACH-47. More standoff support. Though feel free to use your analogy of choice.
Skill issue.
This comment sounds very warthunder
Why not both? Sure my Titania is crazy stupid fast, but I built her for endurance. Like 5 minutes+ of flight time from just max prime flow, max duration, and max efficiency. Not counting energize orb pick ups, void death ball energy, or energy pads if you are truly desperate.
u had me at last frost main lmaooooo
Played since 2016, stopped at around 2021/2022. Finally got back to regularly playing just this past week, and man am i glad to honestly.
played from Feb 2014 up until second dream, then on and off whenever I would find myself on console (not very often). Now that there is account merging I've been going at it with 400 hours in the last month. Super happy with everything that has been added and the crazy build potential we have now. Also I find it funny how warframe has a pretty respectable player population (more players on steam than destiny 2) but everyone treats it like a niche thing because it's not quite mainstream, but it's still very successful lol
for someone who have played this from 2014 and I also just have a 6 digit password which is now illegal just to share, this hits home and this hits hard
I felt that first one. That was literally me this week.
Been playing since late 2013. All of these hit hard.
Last seen warframe memes always bring back tragic times :') every time someone actually wants to add they never come back
2017 veteran, I miss the sentients were difficult e en some videos appeared with builds specialized in killing sentients
@9:19 well i feel personally attacked... 😂
"lost online" one hits hard
Nothing will beat the invader zim one😂
Destiny 2 music in second meme
Still gives me spine chills
2015 veterans?:D 2013 vet here, shit hit different back then.
As a player with over 1500 hours in the game I can confidently say I don’t know how to mode properly.
Omg, hang on...
Is the Voice Actor of Balas the same guy who voiced Dr Glenn Pierce from Superliminal??
😂😂😂
Me as a fun frame gets nerfed: "it was... a fun ride."
I did not know they’d be spoilers
When I want be pro use Gauss belike
My laptop : You know you can't
well shit... here I am, in my orbiter, watching this on my other monitor.
2013 gang where you at?
the ovewatch meme with 2015 vet touched me
Warframe Memes to watch while you sit at a relay waiting for blessings😭🙏
Nahhh that's a different level of desperation 🤣 gl
started in 2015 returned 2020 , i let it age like fine wine/chese
beeing a closed beta player main trinity you hit me hard here
my friend will never give up maining frost
Момент с новой войной такая жиза... Получили совсем не то, что ожидали :/
Being a good old lavos main almost since it came out i not afraid of that thing you are calling "nerf"
1:18 that scene ended abruptly because wukong and titania were standing in the extraction for a whole minute already
8:19 the elemental rework be like
Thank you, I have been searching the internet for a meme compilation about warframe for years
(edit: 10:08 as an ash main, this is absolutely correct)
Much love ♥️
I'll be making more in the future.
Banshee’s forth is like using Destiny 2’s Warlock Stormcaller super on a singular boss. Except it’s sucks when using it on regular enemies.
man i wouldn’t use either. arc warlock is easily the worst subclass in the game(worse than void titan, hunter has no bad subclasses imo.) chaos reach and stormcaller are poop and so is banshees fourth
reflecting on my time grinding this game in 2013 with the homies,.. while i grind in this game in 2025. alone..
I was last online 2567 days ago until 2 days ago. Man this game has changed.
The last meme is us when vor appears
6:52 very nice song to have stuck in my head again lol
0:46 that is me when I saw the warframe trailers.
10:18 Yah that was definitely me when DE nerfed world on fire.
6:33 i love this song fr
"Keep up old man!" Literally had someone call me "granny" in a mission yesterday because I took like 15 extra seconds to get to extraction. 😭
Why were u moving so slow 🤨
@@WildFenrir I got greedy and killed a few more dudes on the way 😭
I started in 2013. I still love this game.
8:44 this Baro meme is legendary 😂
Space sea shanties goes hard
The last meme got me crying 😂
8:13, that's me. I'm the last Frost main