25:30 Imagine a rom hack that does just replace Bruno with the Self-destructing Hiker, except with updated levels, Golem and two Gravelers, all knowing Explosion in place of Selfdestruct. That would indeed be terrifying for challenge playthroughs.
whats funny in later gens, onix can learn self-destruction and explosion, it would make onix a tad better because it has a somewhat high crit-rate, for rock/ground, and mised with explosion, would of made bruno, a tad better
Thinking about it, dragon/rock would've been an interesting type in Gen 1. Only 3 effective weaknesses(since Dragon damage wasn't yet really a thing) and 5 resistances. I bring this up because that'd be more interesting than another dragon/flying for Gen1. Also, I have this hypothesis that the reason why all the fossils revive as part rock type is because the machine for recreating the creatures can't separate the rock from what they're *supposed* to be.
Over an hour saved off compared to last year shows how far you've come with these runs. Looking forward to other "remakes" of your old runs in the future!
Just checked, in FRLG Aerodactyl had a really good moveset. Starts with 60BS physical STAB flying move (wing attack) and gets bite, rock slide, flamethrower, fire blast, steel wing, aerial ace, earthquake, ancient power and dragon claw. Even though some moves are special, they can still be used despite having 60 special attack.
11:14 - An the self-destructing Hiker even took 9 turns to use Rock Throw. He was giving you that win, but seeing weren't going to accept his generosity, decided no more Mr Nice Guy for all your other matches. It was rather hilarious though seeing you rely on Bide of all things. It seems Aerodactyl is quite the gambler; for as monstrous as it looks and feels with it's power, it ultimately relied on hopeful crits to pull it through. Fascinating to see how poorly things can go for such a high stat Pokémon when it has to do everything on it's own.
Would be honestly interested in a kind of "what if" series or set of versus runs where mons get the moves (or move) they *should* have just to see how it compares to the vanilla mon
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon fun fact koga is put in both bug n poison categories in the grand tournament games in later gens He actually uses a beedrill too vs Giovanni in the remade anime and has a butterfree in the anime in the background so yeah he likes dual types
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon in addition his Gen 2 team uses both bugs n poison in og n remade and some favor bug some favor poison And Lance is more of a flying type master than a dragon man Gen 1 2 3 are more than enough evidence
I expect to see him doing the testing in a way that allows him to pull rock slide out of gen 4 Aerodactyl to show what it could have done if game freak wasn't being a troll in gen 1
1) Watch out for flashing fights when I face the Champion - Hyper Beam has a wild animation! 2) Moves that inflict status have regular accuracy when used by the AI. Thunder Wave cannot miss as I stated it could in the video. The AI does have a 25% chance to miss stat altering moves, but not status moves. This 25% chance to miss was added to status moves in generation 2 (see Chuck's Poliwrath missing Hypnosis after setting up Mind Reader for an example.) A funny coincidence occurred, both Andrew Davis and I released Aerodactyl videos on the same day, here's a link to his video: ua-cam.com/video/eT60v1_wyuA/v-deo.html
People don't realize how incredibly strong this Pokemon would be in gen 1 if it had rock slide and earthquake, I changed its moveset with a game shark and used it in pokémon stadium and it was destroying everything left and right.
Well, good. It's a fossil pokémon you only get by going out of your way to backtrack to Pewter and only gets accesible in the town of the 7th gym (unless you rush to Cinnabar). It should've been that strong.
It’s not like Rock type got any better in later generations. Over 7 generations later and the best rock types are a pseudolegendary that can cover up its weak special attack by summoning sandstorm, the equivalent of Calyrex-Ice Rider for Rock types, an accidentally good staller because it’s part Grass and has Storm Drain, and Mega Diancie. The best moves are still Rock Slide only because it hits both opponents in doubles and can flinch and Accelerock. There is also a third good Rock move but that also has limited distribution. Other than that, Rock types really have nothing.
@@iantaakalla8180 Rock has the same problem as the ice type: Despite the type blatantly favouring fast hard attackers because of their abysmal defensive profile vs. strong offense, gamefreak insists on making rock types slow as molasses and bulky... while giving them type combos that are rife with 4x weaknesses, like rock/ground, rock/dark, rock/fire, rock/steel, rock/water... Just make rock types fast, damnit.
So I have to say a couple of years ago I use to watch a handful of videos from jrose and dry bread but you got this odd charm that keeps me and obviously others coming back for more. I've been on UA-cam for like 15 years and probably given you more watch time than any other channel just in the past 6+ months because you keep me wanting to watch from beginning to end for the entertainment instead of wanting to skip to the end just for the results. Love the videos man and hope you're here for a very long time!
It hurts to see Aerodactyl struggle so much, I wonder how it'd perform if it had Rock Slide. Also Scott! I really want to see Seaking vs Seadra! the battle of the painfully average gen 1 water types that start with "Sea"
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon nice! i'm looking forward to it! i love your dedication to your channel and to the challenges & I hope you're having fun doing all this!
They didn't wanna make Aerodactyl a dragon/flying type because it would have been too redundant with the other mons of the same type; those being Dragonite and Venomoth
14:56 as a kid that’s how I felt about Razor Wind. It sounds so cool and yet it’s a two turn move that is worse than body slam. HELL IT’S WORSE THAN STRENGTH, AND FLY!!! Also a kid I was like solar beam makes sense because it becomes 100% accurate compared to its counterparts (fire last, hydro pump, blizzard etc) and sky attack is really strong and has a reasonable 90% accuracy. Razor Wind wtf??? LMAO sorry for the rant, but I had to get that out. I love all your vids. ❤️
Hey Scott! I just wanted to say thanks for changing the volume on the gym leader music! I watch either you, flygonhg, siplhspectre, or jrose to go to bed every single night, and your immediate response and then changing of the volume after I had asked was seriously incredible. Every night that I’m falling asleep to your vids I always appreciate not getting woken up out of half sleep by gym music. Keep being awesome!!
It's been so many years and just now that you mentioned it I realised that there are really only two Rock type moves in Gen1. I had to take a small break to let that sink in.
That sigh at aerodactyls odd typing and fossil influence really hit me. I just wish that pokemon lore was more consistent and future generations didn’t grant that wish.
Brooooo Aerodactyl is brutal! You’ve improved the time and optimized the run so well though! Great run Scott, i almost thought you would hit triple digits in resets! So glad you didn’t
2:41 when aerodactyl realize how shallow his movepool is in gen 1 5:52 omg look at him! He's so cute with that face As always, very enjoyable video Scott!
dude, I have been taking a small break from youtube for the past month or so, and the production quality is so much higher. especially with the aerodactyl emoting on the side with how things go! amazing, honestly. This has become my favorite pokemon channel, honestly. I looked around after jrose11 took a long break, and its so nice to see your content and community grow.
Most of the time I "just" listen to your contetn but today I took my lunch break to watch and awwwww the expressions of th aerodactyl depending on what's happening are so cute
I finally figured out why that Hiker is hanging out where an Elite 4 member should be. He managed to fight his way there, through the E4, but lost all his good Pokemon and ran out of items, so now he's just afraid to move forward. And then you show up, think he's part of the E4, and flatten him, crushing his hopes and dreams. You monster.
For Pokemon with slow levelups, I wonder if you'd get better results by routing around stat experience gain. You could even target specific trainers based on what stats are more important for that particular run. Sweeping all those fighting types on Cycling Road would've been fast with flying stab and given a ton of attack exp for example.
I do think about this and try to do it, normally the route through the game is specifically rich in attack stat experience, so by default it gets well saturated.
I'll keep speaking out for Bellsprout and/or Victreebel eventually. Still, as always, these videos make great background noise during work, keep up the great work yourself.
It always amazes me that Lorelei is consistently the hardest E4 member to beat. She’s the opposite of Bruno. Water/Ice only resists itself, and her Jynx has a suboptimal move set, but she gets so much mileage from her offences, that she can just wail on teams that can’t handle a specially defensive Dewgong, physically bulky Cloyster, and a well rounded Lapras. But great run, if Aerodactyl got some Rock and Ground moves the run would have been much smoother. Feels like Gen 4 where it gets Crunch, Fangs, etc. would be the best Gen for it.
Way to tough this one out Scott. That absolute brick wall would have caused most human beings to go insane or rage quit (or both 😂). I appreciate the awesome content as always. As a huge early gen Pokémon fan, I love your content. I’m not huge on the newer games, so I love all the gen1 and gen2 runs here. Also, I may have told you before, but there are so many Pokétubers who feel like they have to use foul language and stuff, so I really appreciate your safe for work content. Keep up the awesome work man!
In gen 1 yeah it's kinda average, good flying type that's about it. If I used it in a playthrough it was as a flyer. I just saw it as a slightly more durable flyer with the rock typing.
@@Aliyah_666 Yeah, I have some vague memories of it being, "not bad". I haven't played Gen1 in 20+ years though, so vague memories are about all I have lol
It would be interesting to try a Tradebacks approach where Egg Moves and TMs from GSC are used on the initial moveset. Aerodactyl can get Earthquake that way, which would give it a much faster time. Can't get Rock Slide though, Lance cheats!
I like how you use the gray screen to draw everyone’s attention down to the stats but still kept the motion going on in the back so we could still see what was going on as a very nice and very professional touch
The whole thing with Aerodactyl not having access to any Rock moves in Gen1 is a good showcase of why I would love to see playthroughs from Gen4 onwards. You don't need to use Gen4 Pokemon only....use Gen1 Pokemon, but at least in later Gens (I'd say 4 onward), moves and such made a ton more sense. Come to think of it, maybe a showcase like "Pokemon through the Generations" would be interesting. Like, what could a Pokemon, that was absolutely insane in Gen1 (Mewtwo) do in Gen 6, 7, 8 or soon 9? You know?
False Swipe Gaming's "How good was it actually?" is pretty much that, a showcase of specific Pokémon in their competitive viability from their inception to the last game they appeared in. Unfortunately it's all about PvP, I'd love to see something similar for regular play.
@@ThumbSipper that would be a great idea, really. an issue with false swipe is the fact through either bans on ability use or just being outclassed, many a pokemon just rides the fall into what is now known as the PU tier. seeing an actual commentary of the pokemon against others in PVE content, through the ages of adjustments, lost or gained benefits from coding oddities, improved or lost value in learnsets for various reasons, changes to typings and more would be one heck of an interesting exploration and tons of content.
Statswise it's pretty solid (pun not intended) but boy... It's got one of the most shallow movepools in the whole Gen I, whoever came up with it, sure hated Aerodactyl with a passion ^^u I was expecting him to have a hard time today, but I wasn't expecting that many resets. A true Glass/Flying pokémon if I ever saw one... XD Thanks for uploading this run and good job today (keeping your sanity that is...).
I think b tier is a great option buddy! You are amazing man hopefully you hear that often cause you bring all of us happiness with these video ❤👍🏼💪🏼💯! Keep it up
I like how weird the trade off is between the OG games and the remakes with design decisions. Like, in the remakes, the trick question of Tombstoner being a rock move Brock has as his TM is more challenging due to Rock Tomb. But at the same time, stuff like Cubone being available to combat Gastly is better in the OG games because in the remakes the ghosts levitate.
So good to see this run! Aerodactyl has such a good design but as a kid playing blue, it just seemed so unusable with such a late game encounter and slow lvl up. Seems I wasn't missing out on much with it being cursed by bad move pool and defence. But I remember it had a comeback for child me when my friend cloned his lvl100 Aerodactyl for me to use for the e4 in gold
One thing that really stands out in your analysis is that you are often very aware of why you make certain mistakes. In your second round against Lorelei you explain both the gambler and sunk cost fallacies. (And it's very relatable, because who hasn't made those mistakes?)
Yeah, I have to say, one thing I find difficult to explain is the psychological affect that filming and tracking 4 metrics has. I'm trying to sort of balance all 4. Win at a the lowest level possible, with the least real-time, without resetting. It fascinating to me how that can sometimes push me into decision making loops where I use inconsistent strategies or get stuck thinking something will work. If I favored game-time over real-time I think my play would look a lot different. When Jrose released Dugtrio the same day I released Diglett it was a really interesting opportunity to see how these two approaches make for a very different play experience. Hopefully one day I'll be able to summarize this better...
@@skeetermania3202 It's been a bit since I watched, but at one point he says that he continued trying a strategy against her because he had already spent enough time trying to make it work. If a strategy sort of "locks you into" a certain course through the run (e.g., having to learn a TM early) then this makes sense. But if you're sticking with a losing strategy because all the time you've spent on it will feel wasted, then it's the sunk cost fallacy.
Yes!! I’m glad you’ve come back to do this a second time. One of my favorite Pokémon. Cant tell you how many times lance swept me with this rock. That speed was always so nasty.
Aerodactyl is my favorite Rock type pokemon of Gen 1, as besides to his cool appearance, he is one of the fastests pokemon, something amazing to considers that most of the Rock types are generally slow in terms of speed, making Aerodactyl an unique pokemon.
Aerodactyl was so scary and cool in the anime, I remembered that I always wanted it on my team, in crystal, but in red/blue/yellow, game freak was massing up rock,flying and bug types so much, that it hurts. 😔 Most of Aerodactyl's problems begins with it's horrible moveset, and the fact that the slow level up group was really making this playthrough, well.. Yeah.. really slow(yeah, I thought that you'd get a triple digit reset. Lorelei was brutal😅). Aerodactyl wishs it could get better like in gen 3. But, you've managed to get by all of these hard obstacles one by one , and even cut the time that you've previously had, which is great 👏👏. Well done! 😊 I think that teaching fly was kind of liability, because you can't get rid of that for the rest of the run, even though it's one of your options for stab. Setting up toxic on problematic pokemon could have helped you(even though it's not that accurate but it's something, right?) , if you intend to use sky attack. While you are charging up the opposing pokemon loses 1/16 of it's hp at first,(even if you've missed the damage will increase anyway) which can help you one shot it, once you've taken too much damage use rest. Also you can pick up double edge from the rocket hideout, and that could have helped you with additional experience and with a more consistent Lorelei battle. Because it synergies well rest and you'd get extra power. I think that using hm moves on a pokemon, that you'd do a run with, in gen 1(that is not surf taught to a water type pokemon ) is almost always not really a good option. Because you can only manage 3 moves out of your moveset, instead of all of them, and that can determine a run.
It’s so weird for a Rock Flying type Pokémon not even have a single rock type move. My head canon is that the scientists who discovered it mis typed it because of Kabutops and Omastar.
Aerodactyle might the the Pokémon that improves the most between Gen 1 and it's remake. Actual STABs and an ability that isn't marginally useless (a rarity in Gen 3) in Rock Head makes it a force to be rekond with.
Whoever made the Rapping Lass graphic (coolest thing ever btw. I want it as a screensaver!) Really needs to make a red Sandshrew with horns sitting on the beach for a sand attacking devil! Maybe have a sand castle there too :)
Man that Grimer bit feels like a threat I apologize for suggesting a 3 way vs's of the single typed poison line just in case it is a threat This legally clears me of all responsibilitys
For a 65% accurate move, there's only an ~40% chance to hit two in a row, and ~25% chance to hit three in a row. Your explosive hiker luck is impressive (in a shit way!) I guess stuff like this is why I always thought Rock Slide was fairly accurate as a kid. But fun playthrough as always, sad to see how my boy Aerodactyl was done in Gen 1. Left such a sour taste in my mouth because he seemed so cool, but not only do you get him at LEVEL FIVE on the island of the SEVENTH GYM, but his moveset is hot garbage with no rock moves. Took until X/Y and using a mega Aerodactyl on my team to stop disliking the thing!
Part of me kinda wants to see that waiting room in the E4 being depicted as such. Some chairs, a coffee table with some magazines on it, a water dispenser, maybe a fish tank with some Goldeen in it, and that random hiker just sitting in one of the waiting room chairs.
Lance: "So..... Mr. S.Hiker... You were reccomended to use by someone called Scott.. what makes you think you can be an Elite 4 Member?" S. Hiker: "Uhhhh Geodude and Graveler go booom.....?" Lorelei: "I like this one" Agatha: "Me too" Bruno: "B-but..." Lance: "Out, NOW!" Bruno: "Aww....."
Aerodactyl's always been one of my favorite pokemon. I don't get to use it much since it's usually a mid-late game mon and my team's already set by then, but Aerodactyl's on my short list of pokemon I'd consider giving up a long-standing team member for.
Love the pokemon your playing with changes his expression I thought that is cool thing I've not seen on other pokemon UA-cam videos Makes u want to pay attention so u see the pokemon change it's expression
@@Pokeman79797 You do realize that he and I are friends right? And also that Scott is all about promoting each other? And also that it actually is just a neat coincidence?
Its funny how I never really hear people mention experience types - outside of my own experiences with Pokemon - so it feels cathartic in a way to see how big an issue slower level up rates are for these challenge runs. :x (Personally, I never really like using Pokemon that have a level rate slower than Medium Slow for the early game - though with how Medium Fast works that level rate does feel alright for the mid-game and good in the late and post-game.)
For what it's worth, the Aerodactyl DNA was fossilized in the Old Amber, which isn't really a rock, so there's basically no excuse for its typing. Should have been a dragon for sure.
The Actual Elite Four: Viridian Forest Weedle Kid, Wrapping Lass, Exploding Hiker, and that one Rocket that has a Hypno and blocks progression in Silph
I definitely think the self destructing hiker would be tougher in solo challenges. But he would probably be pretty easy in normal playthroughs with a full team lol
Also, I’m noticing a trend in tactics when you get stuck. I feel like you could make a flow chart to increase consistency more quickly, one that might help combat the forgetfulness/autopilot: For example, if the Pokémon keeps getting KO’d by a trainer’s last Pokémon, then there are likely two reasons - either (1) they one shot your ‘mon or (2) HP was too low by the time you got to them. For (1), solutions could be to setup or level up (which is subdivided into training or rare candies). For (2), you could do the first two options or consider rest (which happened a lot with this run in the Elite Four). I’m sure logically arranging things like that would lead to even more consistency, and you could even observe how the flow chart changes based on level if you graphed it. It may be a lot of work + trial & error to get a good version of the system down, but afterwards it would greatly increase your efficiency in doing runs. Might be worth the investment since you’re only about halfway done.
Kinda sad how Aerodactyl is so held back by Gen 1 being Gen 1. Mons like it makes me think what it would look like with a more modern moveset but still in Gen 1, kinda a "what if Aerodactyl had access to Rock Slide in Yellow?" or sth like that
Seaking vs Kingler? A couple really high stats vs a more balanced stat spread may be interesting, along with no physical special split in gen 1.
On the plus side, CrabHammer always crits
Kingler will win, no doubt about it.
I'd say either that or Seaking vs Seadra
Only things notable about Seaking is having Waterfall before it became an HM and having Horn Drill.
@@davidmcgill1000 Horn drill without using items isn't a great strat. With x accuracy, it's completely busted though.
25:30 Imagine a rom hack that does just replace Bruno with the Self-destructing Hiker, except with updated levels, Golem and two Gravelers, all knowing Explosion in place of Selfdestruct. That would indeed be terrifying for challenge playthroughs.
Add an Explosion Electrode and Lickitung
Laughs in Ghost type
whats funny in later gens, onix can learn self-destruction and explosion, it would make onix a tad better because it has a somewhat high crit-rate, for rock/ground, and mised with explosion, would of made bruno, a tad better
Cant Snorlax learn Explosion too? I can imagine that fitting into his theme pretty well, strategically anyway.
@@TrueNomadSkies he learns Self-Destruct, which was useful against mewtwo in stadium
Thinking about it, dragon/rock would've been an interesting type in Gen 1. Only 3 effective weaknesses(since Dragon damage wasn't yet really a thing) and 5 resistances. I bring this up because that'd be more interesting than another dragon/flying for Gen1.
Also, I have this hypothesis that the reason why all the fossils revive as part rock type is because the machine for recreating the creatures can't separate the rock from what they're *supposed* to be.
That's not how Jurassic Park works
@@hihi-rg9vv and yet that is how it works in Pokemon until Gen 8, where the actual Jurassic Park approach happens and DNA splicing occurs
Over an hour saved off compared to last year shows how far you've come with these runs. Looking forward to other "remakes" of your old runs in the future!
Just checked, in FRLG Aerodactyl had a really good moveset. Starts with 60BS physical STAB flying move (wing attack) and gets bite, rock slide, flamethrower, fire blast, steel wing, aerial ace, earthquake, ancient power and dragon claw. Even though some moves are special, they can still be used despite having 60 special attack.
Well this is gen 1
@@Aliyah_666 He never said it wasnt????
We de.and a fire red run of Aerodactyl 😂
And fly cause its a Ai Enemy who wont switch.
11:14 - An the self-destructing Hiker even took 9 turns to use Rock Throw. He was giving you that win, but seeing weren't going to accept his generosity, decided no more Mr Nice Guy for all your other matches. It was rather hilarious though seeing you rely on Bide of all things.
It seems Aerodactyl is quite the gambler; for as monstrous as it looks and feels with it's power, it ultimately relied on hopeful crits to pull it through. Fascinating to see how poorly things can go for such a high stat Pokémon when it has to do everything on it's own.
Would be honestly interested in a kind of "what if" series or set of versus runs where mons get the moves (or move) they *should* have just to see how it compares to the vanilla mon
That's an interesting idea!
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon fun fact koga is put in both bug n poison categories in the grand tournament games in later gens
He actually uses a beedrill too vs Giovanni in the remade anime and has a butterfree in the anime in the background so yeah he likes dual types
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon in addition his Gen 2 team uses both bugs n poison in og n remade and some favor bug some favor poison
And Lance is more of a flying type master than a dragon man
Gen 1 2 3 are more than enough evidence
Exactly my thought. Just let it learn Rock Slide via TM and see how much faster it becomes
I expect to see him doing the testing in a way that allows him to pull rock slide out of gen 4 Aerodactyl to show what it could have done if game freak wasn't being a troll in gen 1
You mean like using cheat software to edit the Pokémon in-game?
Gen 3 had Rock Slide for Aerodactyl.
1) Watch out for flashing fights when I face the Champion - Hyper Beam has a wild animation!
2) Moves that inflict status have regular accuracy when used by the AI. Thunder Wave cannot miss as I stated it could in the video. The AI does have a 25% chance to miss stat altering moves, but not status moves. This 25% chance to miss was added to status moves in generation 2 (see Chuck's Poliwrath missing Hypnosis after setting up Mind Reader for an example.)
A funny coincidence occurred, both Andrew Davis and I released Aerodactyl videos on the same day, here's a link to his video: ua-cam.com/video/eT60v1_wyuA/v-deo.html
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I love that you take the time to cross-promote other solo runners, especially the smaller ones.
Lol
Scott is a high tier dude, dare I say ex rank.
People don't realize how incredibly strong this Pokemon would be in gen 1 if it had rock slide and earthquake, I changed its moveset with a game shark and used it in pokémon stadium and it was destroying everything left and right.
Well, good. It's a fossil pokémon you only get by going out of your way to backtrack to Pewter and only gets accesible in the town of the 7th gym (unless you rush to Cinnabar). It should've been that strong.
That run was quite a ride. Aerodactyl and rock type in general really got the short end of the stick in Gen 1.
Mostly the fossils. Rock Slide was available as a TM for the others and they all have access to STAB Earthquake on top.
It’s not like Rock type got any better in later generations. Over 7 generations later and the best rock types are a pseudolegendary that can cover up its weak special attack by summoning sandstorm, the equivalent of Calyrex-Ice Rider for Rock types, an accidentally good staller because it’s part Grass and has Storm Drain, and Mega Diancie. The best moves are still Rock Slide only because it hits both opponents in doubles and can flinch and Accelerock. There is also a third good Rock move but that also has limited distribution. Other than that, Rock types really have nothing.
@@iantaakalla8180 Rock has the same problem as the ice type: Despite the type blatantly favouring fast hard attackers because of their abysmal defensive profile vs. strong offense, gamefreak insists on making rock types slow as molasses and bulky... while giving them type combos that are rife with 4x weaknesses, like rock/ground, rock/dark, rock/fire, rock/steel, rock/water... Just make rock types fast, damnit.
So I have to say a couple of years ago I use to watch a handful of videos from jrose and dry bread but you got this odd charm that keeps me and obviously others coming back for more. I've been on UA-cam for like 15 years and probably given you more watch time than any other channel just in the past 6+ months because you keep me wanting to watch from beginning to end for the entertainment instead of wanting to skip to the end just for the results. Love the videos man and hope you're here for a very long time!
Thanks for sharing this Cody. It means a lot to me to know that this is the impact my content is having. I’m glad you’re enjoying it!
Absolutely love the content, it’s amazing and I’m really excited to see it keep going, I love your channel so much Scott!!
It hurts to see Aerodactyl struggle so much, I wonder how it'd perform if it had Rock Slide.
Also Scott! I really want to see Seaking vs Seadra! the battle of the painfully average gen 1 water types that start with "Sea"
Yeah, that versus video is planned!
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon nice! i'm looking forward to it! i love your dedication to your channel and to the challenges & I hope you're having fun doing all this!
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Are you planning the starters remake?
I remember this one being super frustrating last time but holy moly I don't think it was even close to that second run
They didn't wanna make Aerodactyl a dragon/flying type because it would have been too redundant with the other mons of the same type; those being Dragonite and Venomoth
Fair, They understood that Venomoth needed to be special.
14:56 as a kid that’s how I felt about Razor Wind. It sounds so cool and yet it’s a two turn move that is worse than body slam. HELL IT’S WORSE THAN STRENGTH, AND FLY!!!
Also a kid I was like solar beam makes sense because it becomes 100% accurate compared to its counterparts (fire last, hydro pump, blizzard etc) and sky attack is really strong and has a reasonable 90% accuracy. Razor Wind wtf???
LMAO sorry for the rant, but I had to get that out. I love all your vids. ❤️
Razor wind has got to be one of the worst moves in the game.
Scott's famous last words: I learned so much about these games.
And yet, continues to make silly mistakes. Must be important to the runs
Hey Scott! I just wanted to say thanks for changing the volume on the gym leader music! I watch either you, flygonhg, siplhspectre, or jrose to go to bed every single night, and your immediate response and then changing of the volume after I had asked was seriously incredible. Every night that I’m falling asleep to your vids I always appreciate not getting woken up out of half sleep by gym music. Keep being awesome!!
I’ve got you! Don’t worry!’n
It's been so many years and just now that you mentioned it I realised that there are really only two Rock type moves in Gen1.
I had to take a small break to let that sink in.
Yup. Only two. I had to let it sink in when I realized it as well.
That sigh at aerodactyls odd typing and fossil influence really hit me. I just wish that pokemon lore was more consistent and future generations didn’t grant that wish.
Brooooo Aerodactyl is brutal! You’ve improved the time and optimized the run so well though! Great run Scott, i almost thought you would hit triple digits in resets! So glad you didn’t
2:41 when aerodactyl realize how shallow his movepool is in gen 1
5:52 omg look at him! He's so cute with that face
As always, very enjoyable video Scott!
dude, I have been taking a small break from youtube for the past month or so, and the production quality is so much higher. especially with the aerodactyl emoting on the side with how things go! amazing, honestly. This has become my favorite pokemon channel, honestly. I looked around after jrose11 took a long break, and its so nice to see your content and community grow.
Production quality is and has been a priority! Glad you’re enjoying!
Most of the time I "just" listen to your contetn but today I took my lunch break to watch and awwwww the expressions of th aerodactyl depending on what's happening are so cute
Trying to design these as podcasts that have awesome visual Easter eggs if you choose to watch! Glad you enjoyed the expressions :)
The production value of this is top notch dude. Well done 👏🏼
Awesome runs! Just wanted to say, the little expressions added to your pokemon on the side are really cute!
I finally figured out why that Hiker is hanging out where an Elite 4 member should be.
He managed to fight his way there, through the E4, but lost all his good Pokemon and ran out of items, so now he's just afraid to move forward. And then you show up, think he's part of the E4, and flatten him, crushing his hopes and dreams.
You monster.
You're videos are quite addicting! Love your work, keep it up Scott!
Thanks Masta!
For Pokemon with slow levelups, I wonder if you'd get better results by routing around stat experience gain. You could even target specific trainers based on what stats are more important for that particular run. Sweeping all those fighting types on Cycling Road would've been fast with flying stab and given a ton of attack exp for example.
I do think about this and try to do it, normally the route through the game is specifically rich in attack stat experience, so by default it gets well saturated.
I'll keep speaking out for Bellsprout and/or Victreebel eventually. Still, as always, these videos make great background noise during work, keep up the great work yourself.
It always amazes me that Lorelei is consistently the hardest E4 member to beat. She’s the opposite of Bruno. Water/Ice only resists itself, and her Jynx has a suboptimal move set, but she gets so much mileage from her offences, that she can just wail on teams that can’t handle a specially defensive Dewgong, physically bulky Cloyster, and a well rounded Lapras. But great run, if Aerodactyl got some Rock and Ground moves the run would have been much smoother. Feels like Gen 4 where it gets Crunch, Fangs, etc. would be the best Gen for it.
I realized most gym leaders don't have unique sprites. There're 6 Lt. Surges in Koga's gym and now I can't unsee it.
Way to tough this one out Scott. That absolute brick wall would have caused most human beings to go insane or rage quit (or both 😂). I appreciate the awesome content as always. As a huge early gen Pokémon fan, I love your content. I’m not huge on the newer games, so I love all the gen1 and gen2 runs here. Also, I may have told you before, but there are so many Pokétubers who feel like they have to use foul language and stuff, so I really appreciate your safe for work content. Keep up the awesome work man!
The best videos on UA-cam man they're so calming
Thank you for giving my favorite fossile another go. You got way more professional with your statistics and runs and I loved to see it.
Hello Scott and Denis!
I've always liked Aerodactyl, but I'm expecting it to be pretty average. We shall see!
In gen 1 yeah it's kinda average, good flying type that's about it. If I used it in a playthrough it was as a flyer. I just saw it as a slightly more durable flyer with the rock typing.
@@Aliyah_666 Yeah, I have some vague memories of it being, "not bad". I haven't played Gen1 in 20+ years though, so vague memories are about all I have lol
Really happy to see yellow version again. I stopped at gen 2 so gen 1 and 2 videos are nostalgic to me.
It would be interesting to try a Tradebacks approach where Egg Moves and TMs from GSC are used on the initial moveset. Aerodactyl can get Earthquake that way, which would give it a much faster time. Can't get Rock Slide though, Lance cheats!
I like how you use the gray screen to draw everyone’s attention down to the stats but still kept the motion going on in the back so we could still see what was going on as a very nice and very professional touch
The whole thing with Aerodactyl not having access to any Rock moves in Gen1 is a good showcase of why I would love to see playthroughs from Gen4 onwards. You don't need to use Gen4 Pokemon only....use Gen1 Pokemon, but at least in later Gens (I'd say 4 onward), moves and such made a ton more sense.
Come to think of it, maybe a showcase like "Pokemon through the Generations" would be interesting. Like, what could a Pokemon, that was absolutely insane in Gen1 (Mewtwo) do in Gen 6, 7, 8 or soon 9? You know?
False Swipe Gaming's "How good was it actually?" is pretty much that, a showcase of specific Pokémon in their competitive viability from their inception to the last game they appeared in. Unfortunately it's all about PvP, I'd love to see something similar for regular play.
@@ThumbSipper that would be a great idea, really. an issue with false swipe is the fact through either bans on ability use or just being outclassed, many a pokemon just rides the fall into what is now known as the PU tier.
seeing an actual commentary of the pokemon against others in PVE content, through the ages of adjustments, lost or gained benefits from coding oddities, improved or lost value in learnsets for various reasons, changes to typings and more would be one heck of an interesting exploration and tons of content.
I kinda do this regularly in my play throughs as I’m a big gen 1er lol and it gives new and different perspective to the Pokémons of the past
so long as the runs stay in Kanto and Johto. Can't stand the majority of other regions. Sinnoh was decent though
I’ll get to later gens. I’m just not rushing it.
OMG I love how the little Aerodactyl avatar changes based on what's happening haha!
This is definitely a good video.
I really like the different Aerodactyl image.
Statswise it's pretty solid (pun not intended) but boy... It's got one of the most shallow movepools in the whole Gen I, whoever came up with it, sure hated Aerodactyl with a passion ^^u
I was expecting him to have a hard time today, but I wasn't expecting that many resets. A true Glass/Flying pokémon if I ever saw one... XD
Thanks for uploading this run and good job today (keeping your sanity that is...).
Honestly the Bombing Kamikaze Self destructing Hiker should be the last challenge every Single pokemon playthrough pokemon's Nightmare
Oh yeah he should have even the last challenge instead of professor oak
I think b tier is a great option buddy! You are amazing man hopefully you hear that often cause you bring all of us happiness with these video ❤👍🏼💪🏼💯! Keep it up
Thanks for brightening my day with your comment :)
Great video as always. I really liked the hiker with the bomb, really great stuff thought and thought.
I like how weird the trade off is between the OG games and the remakes with design decisions. Like, in the remakes, the trick question of Tombstoner being a rock move Brock has as his TM is more challenging due to Rock Tomb. But at the same time, stuff like Cubone being available to combat Gastly is better in the OG games because in the remakes the ghosts levitate.
So good to see this run! Aerodactyl has such a good design but as a kid playing blue, it just seemed so unusable with such a late game encounter and slow lvl up. Seems I wasn't missing out on much with it being cursed by bad move pool and defence. But I remember it had a comeback for child me when my friend cloned his lvl100 Aerodactyl for me to use for the e4 in gold
One thing that really stands out in your analysis is that you are often very aware of why you make certain mistakes. In your second round against Lorelei you explain both the gambler and sunk cost fallacies. (And it's very relatable, because who hasn't made those mistakes?)
Yeah, I have to say, one thing I find difficult to explain is the psychological affect that filming and tracking 4 metrics has. I'm trying to sort of balance all 4. Win at a the lowest level possible, with the least real-time, without resetting. It fascinating to me how that can sometimes push me into decision making loops where I use inconsistent strategies or get stuck thinking something will work. If I favored game-time over real-time I think my play would look a lot different. When Jrose released Dugtrio the same day I released Diglett it was a really interesting opportunity to see how these two approaches make for a very different play experience. Hopefully one day I'll be able to summarize this better...
I get where gambler would come in, but where’s sunk cost?
@@skeetermania3202 It's been a bit since I watched, but at one point he says that he continued trying a strategy against her because he had already spent enough time trying to make it work.
If a strategy sort of "locks you into" a certain course through the run (e.g., having to learn a TM early) then this makes sense. But if you're sticking with a losing strategy because all the time you've spent on it will feel wasted, then it's the sunk cost fallacy.
Subbed and everything really enjoying all the content!! Yellow was actually the very first game I ever played loving the content!!
Nice profile pic :)
Yellow was the first game I ever played too! Glad you’re enjoying the content!
♡ Yellow & Yoshi's Story were the first! The duck approves! Looking forward to seeing more content!
Happy to see a rerun of this boi!! Hopefully it goes way better this time! Aerodactyl deserves it!
Bro when you beat the champion and Aerodactyl got all happy in the picture you have there that was adorable
Aerodactyl has always been my favorite Pokémon, and honestly, it does deserve better.
Amazing, even other rock types have difficulty with Bruno's master, the self-destructing Hiker.
Woo, a birthday video! Dont forget about the super fast electric/bug venomth!
Yes!! I’m glad you’ve come back to do this a second time. One of my favorite Pokémon. Cant tell you how many times lance swept me with this rock. That speed was always so nasty.
Aerodactyl is my favorite Rock type pokemon of Gen 1, as besides to his cool appearance, he is one of the fastests pokemon, something amazing to considers that most of the Rock types are generally slow in terms of speed, making Aerodactyl an unique pokemon.
Aerodactyl was so scary and cool in the anime, I remembered that I always wanted it on my team, in crystal, but in red/blue/yellow, game freak was massing up rock,flying and bug types so much, that it hurts. 😔
Most of Aerodactyl's problems begins with it's horrible moveset, and the fact that the slow level up group was really making this playthrough, well.. Yeah.. really slow(yeah, I thought that you'd get a triple digit reset. Lorelei was brutal😅). Aerodactyl wishs it could get better like in gen 3.
But, you've managed to get by all of these hard obstacles one by one , and even cut the time that you've previously had, which is great 👏👏. Well done! 😊
I think that teaching fly was kind of liability, because you can't get rid of that for the rest of the run, even though it's one of your options for stab. Setting up toxic on problematic pokemon could have helped you(even though it's not that accurate but it's something, right?) , if you intend to use sky attack. While you are charging up the opposing pokemon loses 1/16 of it's hp at first,(even if you've missed the damage will increase anyway) which can help you one shot it, once you've taken too much damage use rest. Also you can pick up double edge from the rocket hideout, and that could have helped you with additional experience and with a more consistent Lorelei battle. Because it synergies well rest and you'd get extra power.
I think that using hm moves on a pokemon, that you'd do a run with, in gen 1(that is not surf taught to a water type pokemon ) is almost always not really a good option. Because you can only manage 3 moves out of your moveset, instead of all of them, and that can determine a run.
Muk? His one of my absolute faves 🙃
This is play through was really enjoyable. Will definitely be checking out your other videos
Glad you enjoyed :)
It’s so weird for a Rock Flying type Pokémon not even have a single rock type move. My head canon is that the scientists who discovered it mis typed it because of Kabutops and Omastar.
I like how you changed the face expression and he got sad
I've been wanting this for a while, aerodactyl is my favorite pokemon, thanks scott!!!
Welcome Brent!
Aerodactyle might the the Pokémon that improves the most between Gen 1 and it's remake. Actual STABs and an ability that isn't marginally useless (a rarity in Gen 3) in Rock Head makes it a force to be rekond with.
Man's elite 4 theme is just Pokémon that have explode and self destruct.
Whoever made the Rapping Lass graphic (coolest thing ever btw. I want it as a screensaver!) Really needs to make a red Sandshrew with horns sitting on the beach for a sand attacking devil! Maybe have a sand castle there too :)
Omg yes.
Man that Grimer bit feels like a threat
I apologize for suggesting a 3 way vs's of the single typed poison line just in case it is a threat
This legally clears me of all responsibilitys
I love Aerodactyl. Me and my friend wrote a song about Aerodactyl when we were kids.
For a 65% accurate move, there's only an ~40% chance to hit two in a row, and ~25% chance to hit three in a row. Your explosive hiker luck is impressive (in a shit way!) I guess stuff like this is why I always thought Rock Slide was fairly accurate as a kid. But fun playthrough as always, sad to see how my boy Aerodactyl was done in Gen 1. Left such a sour taste in my mouth because he seemed so cool, but not only do you get him at LEVEL FIVE on the island of the SEVENTH GYM, but his moveset is hot garbage with no rock moves. Took until X/Y and using a mega Aerodactyl on my team to stop disliking the thing!
Lol I hope Grimer remake is as bloopy as the original one, I loved that one
Part of me kinda wants to see that waiting room in the E4 being depicted as such. Some chairs, a coffee table with some magazines on it, a water dispenser, maybe a fish tank with some Goldeen in it, and that random hiker just sitting in one of the waiting room chairs.
What I can't unsee after your second Lance victory:
: 3
What I can't unsee after your second Rival's victory
*sideways surprised Pikachu face*
Hey Scott, Honesty I thought it was going to be better than it was. Another great video, keep it up!!!
Friday at 1:00pm are the best
Keep it going Scott!!
i really love that you are going back to do these again
Been enjoying the vids. Makes my work days go by better.
And gratz on the engagement
Thanks so much Mike! Glad the videos make the work days better
After a nice 4th of july weekend nothing like capping off the night watching some scotts results 😎
Thanks, you really worked hard to give Aerodactyl the time it deserved.
«It’s speed is nice enough now…»
*me looking for the speed stats and laughing*
😂😂
I suspect the self-destructing hiker is the father of Bruno and Brock
Lance: "So..... Mr. S.Hiker... You were reccomended to use by someone called Scott.. what makes you think you can be an Elite 4 Member?"
S. Hiker: "Uhhhh Geodude and Graveler go booom.....?"
Lorelei: "I like this one"
Agatha: "Me too"
Bruno: "B-but..."
Lance: "Out, NOW!"
Bruno: "Aww....."
Aerodactyl's always been one of my favorite pokemon. I don't get to use it much since it's usually a mid-late game mon and my team's already set by then, but Aerodactyl's on my short list of pokemon I'd consider giving up a long-standing team member for.
This was such a good pokemon that even when you get it in Cinnabar it's worth training.
Can Aero learn Rock Slide in Gen1? If not, I foresee Lorelei being an issue
Noooope. None of the fossils can for some reason.
It gets no rock type moves at all.
I'm in love with Aerodactyl' smile
Love the pokemon your playing with changes his expression
I thought that is cool thing I've not seen on other pokemon UA-cam videos
Makes u want to pay attention so u see the pokemon change it's expression
Yeah, the changing expressions has been really fun to implement in these videos!
In looking forward for the replays. Nice job scott 👍
WOW What a coincidence! I just uploaded an Aerodactyl video!
I was about to say 😂 always funny when this happens
It's nice to see content creators supporting eachother
Self promotion no one cares
@@Pokeman79797 You do realize that he and I are friends right? And also that Scott is all about promoting each other? And also that it actually is just a neat coincidence?
@@Pokeman79797 Scott literally linked Andrew’s video in a pinned comment.
Its funny how I never really hear people mention experience types - outside of my own experiences with Pokemon - so it feels cathartic in a way to see how big an issue slower level up rates are for these challenge runs. :x
(Personally, I never really like using Pokemon that have a level rate slower than Medium Slow for the early game - though with how Medium Fast works that level rate does feel alright for the mid-game and good in the late and post-game.)
For what it's worth, the Aerodactyl DNA was fossilized in the Old Amber, which isn't really a rock, so there's basically no excuse for its typing. Should have been a dragon for sure.
Horrifying RNG against Lorelei in testing, I think you slipped into an alternate dimension for minute there
I think so too
Aerodactyl is tied for my all time favorite (with Joltik)! I'd love to see a gen 2 Aero solo run, as it's movepool gets a little improvement.
The Actual Elite Four: Viridian Forest Weedle Kid, Wrapping Lass, Exploding Hiker, and that one Rocket that has a Hypno and blocks progression in Silph
I think that with Areodactyl you have to defeat both the Dojo and Erika's trainers in her gym to gain some extra levels needed.
I have realised that I watched this and I didn't comment. So, I have returned to say...
Noctowls for the Blood god. Dennis for the Skull Throne.
I definitely think the self destructing hiker would be tougher in solo challenges. But he would probably be pretty easy in normal playthroughs with a full team lol
The next Pokemon you solo is gonna be the nicest run ever. 68 runs complete.
Also, I’m noticing a trend in tactics when you get stuck. I feel like you could make a flow chart to increase consistency more quickly, one that might help combat the forgetfulness/autopilot:
For example, if the Pokémon keeps getting KO’d by a trainer’s last Pokémon, then there are likely two reasons - either (1) they one shot your ‘mon or (2) HP was too low by the time you got to them. For (1), solutions could be to setup or level up (which is subdivided into training or rare candies). For (2), you could do the first two options or consider rest (which happened a lot with this run in the Elite Four).
I’m sure logically arranging things like that would lead to even more consistency, and you could even observe how the flow chart changes based on level if you graphed it. It may be a lot of work + trial & error to get a good version of the system down, but afterwards it would greatly increase your efficiency in doing runs. Might be worth the investment since you’re only about halfway done.
LOVING all the shade on Bruno 🤣
I’m so used to hearing “my girlfriend” that it felt like my brain snapped when you said “my fiancé”
Kinda sad how Aerodactyl is so held back by Gen 1 being Gen 1. Mons like it makes me think what it would look like with a more modern moveset but still in Gen 1, kinda a "what if Aerodactyl had access to Rock Slide in Yellow?" or sth like that