After buying a gen 2 not knowing a lot about them 10 miles into the ride home it broke down! Fuel pipe has split! You guys helped out with the kit and it’s been fine ever since 👌
Did mine Last week took me ages to find decent ethanol resistant hose wish you posted this sooner 🤣. I have a 1999 Falco and I will say one thing you’ve missed/could add to your kit is the Falco has two rubber blank caps on the fuel pump base plate mine basically melted and I couldn’t find a replacement without buying genuine. I have now used a ethanol resistant hose looped back on its self this has solved my issue. I’m sure other people will have the same issue maybe something to add to your kit? Keep up the good work look forward to the new merch drop! 😊
Glad you're back! Gen 1 Tuono but plastic tank, I've not long got it, got a few things from you already! (Northern Scotland), will get the upgrade kit soon. Deffo going to get some clothing too 😃 Linds 👋
Griff, you should emphasise this issue to Gen 2 owners as well! I have a Gen 2 track bike that this happened to not too long ago. Internal pipes were eaten away (as was the GRP coating on them) and fuel went everywhere. Removed internal pipes, sealed at the top with Threebond 1215 and put a short bridging loop of pipe across the barbs at the base of the tank. Hey presto. Easier than trying to retrofit some internal pipe work to the remains of the inside of the tank, which was an unmitigated disaster. Keep the content coming brother.
@@RichyW75 yes, the drinking straws are the breather pipes. I think they’re PTFE or something, so they should be fairly robust. If I recall, it was the interface between these pipes and the plated steel barbs in the base of the tank these pushed over that was the source of fuel leak. The ethanol in modern fuels is hydrophilic, meaning it absorbs water to saturation. When in constant contact with the plated barbs, they start to corrode and your seal is lost. It was odd how the umbilical cord had degraded, but I figured this was likely not “fully applied” at factory. Anyway, these modern fuels present years of fun for all of us. My saving grace thus far has been to drain tank and pour in a litre or so of Aspen alkylate fuel. Run that through the system before winter store and I’ve not had any issues yet.
You guys are brilliant watching you guys for a pretty long time and love all the info about the aprilia bikes! wished i could bring my bike for maintenance at your shop but I live in the Netherlands. Anyhow I will visit one day with the bike(Rsv Mille 2001), promised!
Yes yes yes yes and yes!!! Finally, my Monday fix of ap workshops!! 😂 make sure there is another video for next Monday, gang! 😂 Massive thanks for mentioning me griff. I did find my small fuel pipe starting to perish, but I did overhaul the tank a couple of months ago with your kit. All good now. Looking forward to merch to arrive!! Another great vid thanks gang!!!
I've been chasing a no start condition all winter. Verified fuel pump primes each time, I have spark, tip over sensor is fine, immobilizer is fine, prom chip swapped out, new battery, new start solenoid, upgraded wiring, replaced cam sensor, triple checked everything. I'm going to be a bit mad if a fuel line internally broke off......BUT, thank you for making these videos. Very hard to find first gen rsv info. I've also made multiple purchases from you guys and even though I'm in the US everything always arrives timely and in great condition.
My 2003 Gen 1 has not had any fuel line problems....... but my buddies 2009 Gen 2 had the fuel tubing break while he was on a long trip away from home. Cost him a lot of money and time. Not many competent Aprilia dealers across the USA. His bike was 9 years old when it failed.
Hello Griff Great videos keep them coming 😜 Speaking with a family member about your video regarding what ethanol does to your fuel lines and plastic tanks. He runs a lot of old 70’s Honda’s. And what he does and I do as well on my Tuono Gen 1 factory and my ZX12R is every time you fill the tanks is to put a shot of Red X in. This will keep your fuel injection system clean and also he said the Red X will neutralise the ethanol in the petrol. Plus I always use super unleaded as well. Can you comment please. Regards Steve.
Gen 1 RSV. Plastic tank. I have bought the kit. When reinstalling the pump assembly, do you need sealant or is the o-ring sufficient. I have seen some references to Loctite 518.
The symptoms are not by any chance leaking from the overflow line on the underside of the bike when it's sat for a few days? Pressure buildup within the tank when releasing the petrol cap? Seems the 660 range are having issues where Aprilia are replacing tanks under warranty but no clear explanation is given as to why, seems this ethanol fuel maybe already causing issues with the internal line within the tank. Some have removed the EVAP, some have replaced the O.E cap for aftermarket to try and combat this issue. Either way it's not good if this is now happening on even bikes less than 2 years old. I maybe wrong but seems strange as this video is somewhat similar to or maybe the solution. Good video but need more of this on the Aprilia range :)
So Mille covered but what about RSV4 and Tuono of that ilk? At what time did Aprilia start to fit Ethanol resistant parts in the fuel system? I'm guessing that will be after EU started nudging member states to make it required of the big oil distribution and retailers... PS great video Navajo or Apache?
I have a 01 rst1000 futura with no fuel pressure. Would it be these rotting pipes? It left me stranded the other day and I was completely shook on what went wrong. The thing has spark and mechanically in good shape, it just dies on an uphill left turn light and that was that. Since, I’ve gone through the entire service manual, while getting familiar with motorcycles in general, and tested all the relays plus the fuses.
Brilliant Advice from AP Workshops as normal
After buying a gen 2 not knowing a lot about them 10 miles into the ride home it broke down! Fuel pipe has split! You guys helped out with the kit and it’s been fine ever since 👌
Did mine Last week took me ages to find decent ethanol resistant hose wish you posted this sooner 🤣.
I have a 1999 Falco and I will say one thing you’ve missed/could add to your kit is the Falco has two rubber blank caps on the fuel pump base plate mine basically melted and I couldn’t find a replacement without buying genuine.
I have now used a ethanol resistant hose looped back on its self this has solved my issue.
I’m sure other people will have the same issue maybe something to add to your kit?
Keep up the good work look forward to the new merch drop! 😊
Nice 1, Falco tank is stripped down so might aswell do the pump kit👍👍
I can vouch for this . Happened to me 2 weeks ago 😂!! Thanks for the pump kit !
and so can i cos it happened me 3 weeks ago....
Glad you're back! Gen 1 Tuono but plastic tank, I've not long got it, got a few things from you already! (Northern Scotland), will get the upgrade kit soon. Deffo going to get some clothing too 😃 Linds 👋
Griff, you should emphasise this issue to Gen 2 owners as well! I have a Gen 2 track bike that this happened to not too long ago. Internal pipes were eaten away (as was the GRP coating on them) and fuel went everywhere. Removed internal pipes, sealed at the top with Threebond 1215 and put a short bridging loop of pipe across the barbs at the base of the tank. Hey presto. Easier than trying to retrofit some internal pipe work to the remains of the inside of the tank, which was an unmitigated disaster. Keep the content coming brother.
@@RichyW75 yes, the drinking straws are the breather pipes. I think they’re PTFE or something, so they should be fairly robust. If I recall, it was the interface between these pipes and the plated steel barbs in the base of the tank these pushed over that was the source of fuel leak. The ethanol in modern fuels is hydrophilic, meaning it absorbs water to saturation. When in constant contact with the plated barbs, they start to corrode and your seal is lost. It was odd how the umbilical cord had degraded, but I figured this was likely not “fully applied” at factory. Anyway, these modern fuels present years of fun for all of us. My saving grace thus far has been to drain tank and pour in a litre or so of Aspen alkylate fuel. Run that through the system before winter store and I’ve not had any issues yet.
Thanks for explaining Griff. This happened to me 2 weeks ago, out in a ride on a very hot day… I got very, very lucky!
You guys are brilliant watching you guys for a pretty long time and love all the info about the aprilia bikes! wished i could bring my bike for maintenance at your shop but I live in the Netherlands. Anyhow I will visit one day with the bike(Rsv Mille 2001), promised!
A few have travelled across......
@@markpaul1969 I will to at some point ;)
Yes yes yes yes and yes!!! Finally, my Monday fix of ap workshops!! 😂 make sure there is another video for next Monday, gang! 😂
Massive thanks for mentioning me griff. I did find my small fuel pipe starting to perish, but I did overhaul the tank a couple of months ago with your kit. All good now. Looking forward to merch to arrive!!
Another great vid thanks gang!!!
Nice to see another video Griff!
I've been chasing a no start condition all winter. Verified fuel pump primes each time, I have spark, tip over sensor is fine, immobilizer is fine, prom chip swapped out, new battery, new start solenoid, upgraded wiring, replaced cam sensor, triple checked everything. I'm going to be a bit mad if a fuel line internally broke off......BUT, thank you for making these videos. Very hard to find first gen rsv info. I've also made multiple purchases from you guys and even though I'm in the US everything always arrives timely and in great condition.
Sound advice as always guys keep up the great work
Thanks Griff. Another top vid!
My 2003 Gen 1 has not had any fuel line problems....... but my buddies 2009 Gen 2 had the fuel tubing break while he was on a long trip away from home. Cost him a lot of money and time. Not many competent Aprilia dealers across the USA. His bike was 9 years old when it failed.
Hello Griff
Great videos keep them coming 😜
Speaking with a family member about your video regarding what ethanol does to your fuel lines and plastic tanks.
He runs a lot of old 70’s Honda’s.
And what he does and I do as well on my Tuono Gen 1 factory and my ZX12R is every time you fill the tanks is to put a shot of Red X in.
This will keep your fuel injection system clean and also he said the Red X will neutralise the ethanol in the petrol.
Plus I always use super unleaded as well.
Can you comment please.
Regards
Steve.
Great vid Griff. I have a plastic tank Gen 1 that’s leaking through the drain/vent. Any thoughts on how to resolve? Cheers..
Great stuff again! My 1999 Mille also had the outer fuel lines eaten away by ethanol. So you maybe want to replace them too 👍
Que buen video...
Son unos genios..
Saludos desde URUGUAY 🇺🇾
Gen 1 RSV. Plastic tank. I have bought the kit. When reinstalling the pump assembly, do you need sealant or is the o-ring sufficient. I have seen some references to Loctite 518.
Great Company, used many times for info and parts, wouldn't go anywhere else.
great video griff and amber :)
The symptoms are not by any chance leaking from the overflow line on the underside of the bike when it's sat for a few days? Pressure buildup within the tank when releasing the petrol cap? Seems the 660 range are having issues where Aprilia are replacing tanks under warranty but no clear explanation is given as to why, seems this ethanol fuel maybe already causing issues with the internal line within the tank.
Some have removed the EVAP, some have replaced the O.E cap for aftermarket to try and combat this issue.
Either way it's not good if this is now happening on even bikes less than 2 years old.
I maybe wrong but seems strange as this video is somewhat similar to or maybe the solution.
Good video but need more of this on the Aprilia range :)
So Mille covered but what about RSV4 and Tuono of that ilk?
At what time did Aprilia start to fit Ethanol resistant parts in the fuel system?
I'm guessing that will be after EU started nudging member states to make it required of the big oil distribution and retailers...
PS great video Navajo or Apache?
I have a 01 rst1000 futura with no fuel pressure. Would it be these rotting pipes? It left me stranded the other day and I was completely shook on what went wrong. The thing has spark and mechanically in good shape, it just dies on an uphill left turn light and that was that. Since, I’ve gone through the entire service manual, while getting familiar with motorcycles in general, and tested all the relays plus the fuses.
thank you for helpfull support
Can anyone please send me a link to buy this kit? I can't seem to find it on the website or get UA-cam to even show me where the kit is available....
Thanks for your help
Are those your LC pipes hanging on the stairs behind you 😂 they will look great on the bike, just saying 😂😂
bought the kit, trying to put it on now, zero chance the included hose fits over the pump nipple, way too small, tore the shit out of it.
2003 Tuono