Hey Duds after enjoying your unboxing video of this particular jacket from Master Supplies, I found now your well formulated detailed revue about that jacket very interesting, especially because you also emphasized some special details and several critical issues in a very honest way. That makes your videos so helpful and inspiring for own plans to consider buying a leather jacket of a certain brand. Awesome work, thank you! Wishing you all the best, peace and kindest regards from Switzerland.
After a couple months how are you liking the jacket, and how is it holding up? I'm currently waiting on one of their vests to come back in stock and hoping that it's worth the price tag.
Yes I agree, effective marketing is based on emotion- in this case aspiration for a particular kind of cool. Nothing wrong with that, I just find it doesn’t always land for me
Marketing is definitely the way to win brand loyalty particularly for the casual & fashion conscious individual.Premium products typical in this sector tend to sell themselves with a minimum advertising & generally sort after by enthusiasts.The Jacket you are reviewing would be a welcome part of any collection & the look is quite slick to say the very least.
Thanks man. Yeah I would think it’s come for the marketing, stay for the product. Though community building is also a part of many marketing strategies these days
Very welcome review, thank you! I agree with the pre distressed sentiments. That is the main reason I haven't tried one myself. For the novice collector or someone who doesn't need a high end heavy jacket these sound like a nice step up in both quality and weight from the Thursday jackets.
I think it’s definitely a step up from Thursday, which I found hard to generally recommend. I like that they’re continuing to improve with each iteration too. Will be curious if they’re able to get better leathers over time, I know they’re working on it but results unknown
I've got the original convoy and goldrush and I'm pretty pleased with them. I did buy the Convoy 224. Thought it looked cool the way it faded. Can see why some people are into that, but I'm liking the way that mine has started to fade. Have to agree with the length of the arms- i'm 5'9 too, and the sleeves are just slightly too long, but I've gotten used to it - but then that applies to most jackets I guess. Class review man.
Thanks man! Yeah I actually ordered the replacement Daytona with shorter body and sleeves…it’s almost always a problem for me too. As for the fading thing, it seems like it’s a love it or hate it option, but then again it’s not the only one they offer
I have two Lewis Leathers jackets and they both zip on the left. I always figured it had something to do with being able to operate the zipper while your right hand is operating the throttle on a motorcycle. I find it adds character when things operate differently. Back in my riding days, I had a number of different bikes (Norton, Triumph, Ducati, Moto Guzzi) and they all had different shift patterns; some were right foot shit, some were left foot shift, some 1st gear was up and some 1st gear was down. Just made it more fun for me.
I have the original convoy jacket, i do really like it, i like the trucker style jackets, thinking of getting the vanson maverick soon, thanks for the video.
Sure thing Michael. I want to like trucker styles…I had an Aero trucker but decided I didn’t like the leather/color of it. Might try again someday. The maverick is a great jacket
Thanks Lucky. Looking forward to seeing that jacket too. They’ve already made changes to the lining & action back for the Reload, and I talked with them about lessening the load of the internal pockets and sleeve zip welts. And of course I’m curious about the leather
Their business model seems similar to that of Avi Leathers in Denmark, which are designed in Denmark and manufactured in Pakistan. I’ve seen a few favorable reviews on Avi Leathers. I can’t confirm from personal experience, but their materials are supposed to be top-notch. If you’re looking for another quality jacket and a good value, you might want to check them out sometime.
I also agree, I didn’t like the “Insta Rust”. I want to break it in myself. You should check out the Tombstone Reload. That’s my favourite from Master Supply and more in tune with the Schott.
I did consider the tombstone too. But I figured I wanted to see if I could land on a jacket I might keep if I liked for my first run, and between the Schott & Cal leather I don’t expect I’d keep the Tombstone around. That being said reviewing other models in the future remains a possibility!
Thanks man! I returned that one. They actually sent me another one for free with some modifications, including a shorter sleeve and body length. Just did the unboxing vid for it yesterday!
@@DudsByDel Yeah, I really like the MS stuff. Over the years I’ve come to the concconclusion that you don’t necessarily need to spend a lot of money to find a jacket you love. I have a SuperDry leather jacket that I wear all the time on the motorcycle.
The problem with masters and co is that their jacket are small! The biggest one is actually a 2xl ! I was looking to buy a 3xl and no sir cannot be done! As far as not expensive well here in Canada the one that I was looking for was over 700$ to me that is a lot of money!
My typical advice for folks has been to buy a used Schott Vanson Aero etc if they can’t afford new. It’s what I myself have been doing. However, some folks just do not want to buy used or don’t feel comfortable with a jacket they can’t return easily. I did like this jacket much more than the Thursday jacket I reviewed
Bro no normal person wants a stinky, cigarette smoked in, ripped lining, sticky zipper ahh old used leather jacket. If you are paying so much you deserve a new jacket so you can make your mark on it
Yes I think it’s ok to have them, and am always a fan of function informing design and eventual wear patterns. But it’s possible to have too much, or for them to be overly bulky as I found these
In actuality it’s quite supple, I wish it were a little stiffer to resist abrasion and take on creases. I have a hunch the cowhide on the reload may be better for me but dunno. It obviously will be less nice than the hide on any of more other more expensive jackets. But it’s more robust than cheap lamb. When talking price the cost of the leather is such a huge component it’s hard to understate its importance. Consider just leather at wholesale discount for my Langlitz jacket cost about $200-225, this whole jacket including labor has to cost around there (?possibly less?)
What area of the US (assuming US) do you live in Del? Asking because I’m in Canada and still struggle with wearing too much of my leather jacket collection with the hot weather.
Hey Alexander I’m in the southern USA where it gets quite hot. So I’m a bit of a maniac 😂 Truth is this time of year through October jackets of almost any kind are unwearable outside of air conditioned areas
I think some of your criticism is a little unfair and while you have good taste in jackets your taste outside of anything leather is that of bland which is a little obvious when I watch your videos, so I'm not surprised. That being said the reload is a better jacket along with the vest. You will like it.
Hey Axel, 1) would be curious what in particular you found unfair, as I try to be very specific and honest about things I notice, while considering what good reasons may exist for why things are the way they are. Consider that for the Daytona Reload, Master Supply already had decided to rework the action back and replace the lining with cotton for better breathability. Besides I think giving details helps folks understand why the jacket is $450 and not $800 or whatever 2) as to my general style, and as with many things, it’s a work in progress. I tend to be jacket-centric in what I am drawn to, so I have to divert myself into “filling in the gaps” so to speak when it comes to other aspects of style like accessories. That being said, a leather jacket is a big draw and a statement piece. Too many things thrown together can get over busy in my opinion. 3) definitely looking forward to the Reload! I talked with the master supply co folks and got the lengths modified to be a touch shorter for me, along with a few other little changes they were happy to make.
Excellent review Del! Great insights and a very balanced take. Thank you!
Thanks Josh!
Hey Duds after enjoying your unboxing video of this particular jacket from Master Supplies, I found now your well formulated detailed revue about that jacket very interesting, especially because you also emphasized some special details and several critical issues in a very honest way. That makes your videos so helpful and inspiring for own plans to consider buying a leather jacket of a certain brand. Awesome work, thank you!
Wishing you all the best, peace and kindest regards from Switzerland.
Thank you Willie. Somehow I missed this message. I have just received the second jacket from Master Supply and the unboxing video will go up tomorrow!
Awesome channel! Just got my first Schott yesterday. It’s a vintage in beautiful condition.
Thanks Joel! Congrats on the jacket. My Schott 618 is also vintage I think from the 90s
Nothing like a Schott.
After a couple months how are you liking the jacket, and how is it holding up? I'm currently waiting on one of their vests to come back in stock and hoping that it's worth the price tag.
Marketing is making people feel like who they think they are, or who they want to be. From that perspective, I’d say they’ve done a stellar job.
Yes I agree, effective marketing is based on emotion- in this case aspiration for a particular kind of cool. Nothing wrong with that, I just find it doesn’t always land for me
Marketing is definitely the way to win brand loyalty particularly for the casual & fashion conscious individual.Premium products typical in this sector tend to sell themselves with a minimum advertising & generally sort after by enthusiasts.The Jacket you are reviewing would be a welcome part of any collection & the look is quite slick to say the very least.
Thanks man. Yeah I would think it’s come for the marketing, stay for the product. Though community building is also a part of many marketing strategies these days
Very welcome review, thank you! I agree with the pre distressed sentiments. That is the main reason I haven't tried one myself. For the novice collector or someone who doesn't need a high end heavy jacket these sound like a nice step up in both quality and weight from the Thursday jackets.
I think it’s definitely a step up from Thursday, which I found hard to generally recommend. I like that they’re continuing to improve with each iteration too. Will be curious if they’re able to get better leathers over time, I know they’re working on it but results unknown
I've got the original convoy and goldrush and I'm pretty pleased with them. I did buy the Convoy 224. Thought it looked cool the way it faded. Can see why some people are into that, but I'm liking the way that mine has started to fade. Have to agree with the length of the arms- i'm 5'9 too, and the sleeves are just slightly too long, but I've gotten used to it - but then that applies to most jackets I guess. Class review man.
Thanks man! Yeah I actually ordered the replacement Daytona with shorter body and sleeves…it’s almost always a problem for me too. As for the fading thing, it seems like it’s a love it or hate it option, but then again it’s not the only one they offer
I have two Lewis Leathers jackets and they both zip on the left. I always figured it had something to do with being able to operate the zipper while your right hand is operating the throttle on a motorcycle.
I find it adds character when things operate differently. Back in my riding days, I had a number of different bikes (Norton, Triumph, Ducati, Moto Guzzi) and they all had different shift patterns; some were right foot shit, some were left foot shift, some 1st gear was up and some 1st gear was down. Just made it more fun for me.
Yeah I do agree learning the idiosyncrasies of different makers is part of the fun!
I have the original convoy jacket, i do really like it, i like the trucker style jackets, thinking of getting the vanson maverick soon, thanks for the video.
Sure thing Michael. I want to like trucker styles…I had an Aero trucker but decided I didn’t like the leather/color of it. Might try again someday. The maverick is a great jacket
as always amazing review
Thanks Oksana!
Great video del, look forward to seeing the other none fading review
Thanks Lucky. Looking forward to seeing that jacket too. They’ve already made changes to the lining & action back for the Reload, and I talked with them about lessening the load of the internal pockets and sleeve zip welts. And of course I’m curious about the leather
Their business model seems similar to that of Avi Leathers in Denmark, which are designed in Denmark and manufactured in Pakistan. I’ve seen a few favorable reviews on Avi Leathers. I can’t confirm from personal experience, but their materials are supposed to be top-notch. If you’re looking for another quality jacket and a good value, you might want to check them out sometime.
I had seen Avi Leather and been curious for similar reasons, though they do have a smaller presence than Master Supply
Their D pocket with fur collar looks nice
@DudsByDel I bet you'll like what Avi Leather is doing. Lots of good choices and no nonsense.
That really looks good. As a person who always ends up with too short sleeves this looks really interesting. I wish they have round d pocket model
And they do offer modifications if you’d need them even longer. I ordered the replacement jacket with shorter sleeves and body
I also agree, I didn’t like the “Insta Rust”. I want to break it in myself.
You should check out the Tombstone Reload. That’s my favourite from Master Supply and more in tune with the Schott.
I did consider the tombstone too. But I figured I wanted to see if I could land on a jacket I might keep if I liked for my first run, and between the Schott & Cal leather I don’t expect I’d keep the Tombstone around. That being said reviewing other models in the future remains a possibility!
Aside from the sleeves being too long, that MS jacket fits you really well!
Thanks man! I returned that one. They actually sent me another one for free with some modifications, including a shorter sleeve and body length. Just did the unboxing vid for it yesterday!
@@DudsByDel Yeah, I really like the MS stuff. Over the years I’ve come to the concconclusion that you don’t necessarily need to spend a lot of money to find a jacket you love. I have a SuperDry leather jacket that I wear all the time on the motorcycle.
The problem with masters and co is that their jacket are small! The biggest one is actually a 2xl ! I was looking to buy a 3xl and no sir cannot be done! As far as not expensive well here in Canada the one that I was looking for was over 700$ to me that is a lot of money!
Did you try emailing them? I found out after the unboxing video I did that they may be able to do a custom size for you.
i agree. they max out at around 48-50inch chest which is dissappointing
Fantastic man👍🏻
Thanks Amit!
Wheres the cheapest place to get s jacket like this where you aren't paying for the marketing? Im in canada so the price on these are pretty crazy.
@@lurkingchicken hmm not sure. Honestly Master Supply is Canada based…
Used Aero, Vanson, Schott, etc are 10 times the jacket for the same money or less.
My typical advice for folks has been to buy a used Schott Vanson Aero etc if they can’t afford new. It’s what I myself have been doing. However, some folks just do not want to buy used or don’t feel comfortable with a jacket they can’t return easily. I did like this jacket much more than the Thursday jacket I reviewed
Bro no normal person wants a stinky, cigarette smoked in, ripped lining, sticky zipper ahh old used leather jacket. If you are paying so much you deserve a new jacket so you can make your mark on it
Starting to really dislike pockets on the interior and exterior on the same side it gives a weird feeling and look when broken in.
Yes I think it’s ok to have them, and am always a fan of function informing design and eventual wear patterns. But it’s possible to have too much, or for them to be overly bulky as I found these
The leather while hanging looks like plastic to me! It looks cheaply tanned and doesn’t look supple.
In actuality it’s quite supple, I wish it were a little stiffer to resist abrasion and take on creases. I have a hunch the cowhide on the reload may be better for me but dunno. It obviously will be less nice than the hide on any of more other more expensive jackets. But it’s more robust than cheap lamb. When talking price the cost of the leather is such a huge component it’s hard to understate its importance. Consider just leather at wholesale discount for my Langlitz jacket cost about $200-225, this whole jacket including labor has to cost around there (?possibly less?)
Zipper side is gender specific. Women's zippers are on the left while men's are on the right, traditionally speaking of course.
@@DaneHopkins-i3q yes it’s often so. Though the zippers on my Thedi jackets, which were clearly for men, were on the left for whatever reason. 🤷♂️
Do boda skins next
Will check em out!
What area of the US (assuming US) do you live in Del? Asking because I’m in Canada and still struggle with wearing too much of my leather jacket collection with the hot weather.
Hey Alexander I’m in the southern USA where it gets quite hot. So I’m a bit of a maniac 😂 Truth is this time of year through October jackets of almost any kind are unwearable outside of air conditioned areas
I think some of your criticism is a little unfair and while you have good taste in jackets your taste outside of anything leather is that of bland which is a little obvious when I watch your videos, so I'm not surprised. That being said the reload is a better jacket along with the vest. You will like it.
Hey Axel,
1) would be curious what in particular you found unfair, as I try to be very specific and honest about things I notice, while considering what good reasons may exist for why things are the way they are. Consider that for the Daytona Reload, Master Supply already had decided to rework the action back and replace the lining with cotton for better breathability. Besides I think giving details helps folks understand why the jacket is $450 and not $800 or whatever
2) as to my general style, and as with many things, it’s a work in progress. I tend to be jacket-centric in what I am drawn to, so I have to divert myself into “filling in the gaps” so to speak when it comes to other aspects of style like accessories. That being said, a leather jacket is a big draw and a statement piece. Too many things thrown together can get over busy in my opinion.
3) definitely looking forward to the Reload! I talked with the master supply co folks and got the lengths modified to be a touch shorter for me, along with a few other little changes they were happy to make.