Great advice Del! Isn't it funny how times and styles have changed over the years as well. Compare the fits that were popular in the 1950's vs. the oversized clothing of the 1990's. Both of those jackets fit you really well.
So different! Just take a stroll down Aero's catalog and you can see fitment changing with the different eras. As to the advice, thank you! You may very well want to claw out your eyes if you do a youtube search for "leather jacket fit" and listen to all the bad overly specific advice out there lol
Love watching your videos because we are so very close in chest measurement, height, weight and body type. I have been seeking a Schott jacket but already have a Fidelity motorcycle jacket that fits me perfectly. It looks great but I struggled with it not being a Schott. Now I love my Fidelity after wearing it a lot. Thanks for the videos, brother! Keep it up.
Thanks Joshua! Fidelity made some cool jackets. My understanding is their quality varied but some real gems. Even the “lower quality” ones still have a nice fit and good vibes. As for fit, I know exactly what you mean 😂 A few friends are around my size or exactly one up or down from me, makes things easier once you figure it out a bit
Really great video! I just got a Schott 618 about a week ago and its breaking in nicely thanks to your advice video, thanks for the work -- can't wait for fall to finally hit here!
Both jackets look great. I actually prefer the slightly oversized jacket, because they’re so easy to move in. One thing I personally might avoid in the future for me is quilted lining. I think I like the wool or flannel lining as with the Indian Ranger (Aero). Now that’s a dreamy jacket!!
a vest should fit under it, because leather jacket and vest combo rocks, same with chunky turtleneck should fit under it because the combo also rocks, to me the sign of over size jacket is the neck hole, if the collar fits nicely then the jacket will look nice, if the collar is loose then the jacket will appear too big. nice vid!
@@stefanhnavetsea1588 haha yes! Knowing how you want to wear it and sizing appropriately. I’ve noticed too you have a great eye for details like the collar / neck hole. Thanks Navetsea!
First, this is excellent advice, best I have ever seen in a video---your trim fit vs layer differential is exactly what I've learned too over the years. Sizing down is dumb. The next key measure is across the rear shoulder to shoulder; and this is where excellent Japanese brands may be a bit smaller than, say, a Schott. I would suggest one take a jacket that fits well---even a blazer or suit coat---and measure that shoulder to shoulder seam (and account for any padding!) The shoulder has as much to do with layering as the chest, which you know well. Also, perhaps next time we could see the larger of the two with a chunky sweater or two layers?
Interesting. Thanks. I’m also a 40 chest, but taller than Del at 6’2”. I also live in a cooler climate where I rarely wear just a t-shirt under my jacket. I find that size 40 for an outer jacket is almost always very small. I will usually get a 42 for a trim fit and a 44 for a fit with lots of winter layering.
At 5'8" and 190lbs with a muscular build, I could have used this when I ordered my first real full grain leather jacket. I have three now. The first is a medium, and the other two are larges. The length of the medium is good, but it's tight. Double rider and trucker style jackets are shorter than regular jackets anyway, so the larges aren't too long for me.
Yes for me it was all a shot in the dark with first purchases. Even so there are still surprises; my Aero Highwayman fits very comfortably with about 23" chest. Due to the weight of the leather and restrictions from the design much smaller than that would be too tight
@DudsByDel Yes, with the first jacket I bought it based on my chest measurements but forgot to take into account that I'll be inside the jacket, so the jacket measurement has to be bigger than my chest. Also a lot of the models for jackets tend to be tall skinny guys which doesn't help me.
Hi, love your posts.. what would you recommend for a 47 chest with the SchoTTS 613 SH Horsehide.. I would like a wide shoulder width and the Schotts website recommends a 48 slim and a 50 standard.. However i don't want it too big on the tummy or too long in the back.. Ty
@@winedave5454 hey Dave! I have about a 40.5” chest and have a size 40. If you like the look of my fit I’d go with the 48. If you do buy from Schott, would be fantastic if you used my affiliate link. It’s in the description or here: www.schottnyc.com/products/leather-motorcycle-jacket.htm?partner=MrFrown
I bought the Taylor Stitch Moto Jacket collaboration with Golden Bear. They said my measure would be XS but I feel that it is only comfortable if it is open. It can fully close but I feel pressure in my chest. Also it looks that the chest stretches if I close it and put hands in pockets. Would you say I need to size up? Some people say that the leather will stretch and that the slim fit is ideal… but I am not sure. Do leather jackets really stretch?
It does sound like you may need to size up. Did you have a chance to measure your chest and take the chest measurement like I showed for the Schott jacket?
I think it is definitely too tight. I already placed a return. Will drop it tomorrow at UPS. My chest size is 38 and this jacket was size 36. The chest was 19.5 (39)… I guess I just had 1 free inch but was not enough.
I live in South Texas, leather jackets and the weather here, no good... For some reason I spent some money three years ago on a "negan" jacket, for Halloween, thinking hey, I'm getting a leather jacket, it just happens to be two weeks before Halloween. Thinking hey I kinda do really look like him don't I? I'm 5'10", 167lbs....but like a 42. Long story, on Halloween, it looked hella cool. ANY other day, it's really difficult to pull off sporting that jacket. Seeing it on someone else besides Negan... Jacket is staying in the closet.🤟✌️🤙
I have a 47-inch body chest, but when I get a size 46 jacket, it's always fits too big on my chest and waist. If I go down to size 44, it would probably be too small on my shoulders, and because I'm 6"2, the sleeves are going to be too short! Man, the frustration of having a nicely built athletic body!!😢😅
I Have Multiple Leather jackets and I prefer a slim fitting style in a true to size large. So that way its trim fitting but NOT tight. That way I Can Layer. I can fit a hand under it when halfway zipped. For my first jacket I Got a "Second Skin" and although it looks great it is a bit uncomfortable and I STILL have some trouble moving. Breaking it in did not Magically solve everything.
@@nofillergamingknight7319 it’s a good point about tight fit looking good- oftentimes folks see a great look, whether it’s on someone else or in the mirror, but unfortunately it’s too tight to wear comfortably.
Hi Del, I often find new biker leather jackets armholes cut into the underside of the upper arm slightly when I try them on. Should they be avoided, or does the armhole usually soften up enough to wear comfortably? These are often horsehide jackets Im trying on.
@@zatarawood3588 I wonder if it’s too small, can’t say that I’ve had that happen. Some designs have trimmer or looser bicep, many Vanson models and a lot of CHP designs for example have more space in the bicep area
@@DudsByDel These are modern Japanese repro makers, the real mccoys buco, & the flathead double rider. Both seem just right, but the armhole catches the upper arm, Im not sure if it all loosens up if the armhole will come up and sit in the actual armhole or not. Perhaps the Japanese makers are making for the asian market with a different proportions which causes issues)
I got a jacket recently and the fit is good. But I can barely hug myself in it and talking on the phone is quite problematic but doable. Maybe it will break in. What do you think? It is from a small company in UK - rugged west. The jacket itself is amazing. I was looking for years for brown/brass combo. Should I worry :D ? And thanks for great videos. Maybe add metric scale as well in description for us - oversea people.
Bellissimo video . Mi piace moltissimo ascoltare come descrivi in tutti i dettagli le tue giacche di pelle . Mi sono iscritto al tuo canale UA-cam e ti seguirò con molto piacere . Mi piacciono molto le giacche di pelle e le indosso spesso perché mi sento a mio agio . Ti mando un saluto dall'Italia . Un tuo nuovo iscritto .
Its beyond frustrating to find a proper fitting jacket. Brands like schott make jackets to fit the average guy, then their slim fits are slightly less average. Then i have a mutant build so its damn impossible. I wish custom jackets weren’t nightmarishly expensive.
Do you have really broad shoulders and long arms or something like that? Anyone with a build far out from the average, which for example includes bodybuilders and other serious athletes, have trouble with off the rack. That being said, you may just focus on getting one or two custom jackets in styles you really admire.
@@DudsByDel yeah im 5’10”. 180 with a 42 chest. But my arm length is as if i was 6’1”. Then a narrow waist but that means i can maybe get two measurements out of chest/length/sleeves/width/sleeve height. But not all of them at once.
It's looks proper to me, especially once it's zipped up (Schott's cut can sometimes be notoriously roomy for American beer bellies, but again, it looks good here to me). What makes you think the jacket is too big a fit to you?
I have to ask which jacket you're talking about? For the 618 i completely disagree. For the Cal, I could see the argument. However I rarely wear it with just a tee as shown in this video.
Both jackets look good to me. I also own several styles of leather jackets and they all fit and feel different. To me it all depends on what you feel like wearing. I can care less what anyone thinks. Great videos 🙏🏻
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Great advice Del! Isn't it funny how times and styles have changed over the years as well. Compare the fits that were popular in the 1950's vs. the oversized clothing of the 1990's. Both of those jackets fit you really well.
So different! Just take a stroll down Aero's catalog and you can see fitment changing with the different eras. As to the advice, thank you! You may very well want to claw out your eyes if you do a youtube search for "leather jacket fit" and listen to all the bad overly specific advice out there lol
Love watching your videos because we are so very close in chest measurement, height, weight and body type. I have been seeking a Schott jacket but already have a Fidelity motorcycle jacket that fits me perfectly. It looks great but I struggled with it not being a Schott. Now I love my Fidelity after wearing it a lot. Thanks for the videos, brother! Keep it up.
Thanks Joshua! Fidelity made some cool jackets. My understanding is their quality varied but some real gems. Even the “lower quality” ones still have a nice fit and good vibes. As for fit, I know exactly what you mean 😂 A few friends are around my size or exactly one up or down from me, makes things easier once you figure it out a bit
I want a Milwaukee leather jacket but i usually get smalls but i seen a medium so I'll get that one
@@DonnelWilson-sf8hn good luck! Can you let me know how it turns out?
Really great video! I just got a Schott 618 about a week ago and its breaking in nicely thanks to your advice video, thanks for the work -- can't wait for fall to finally hit here!
Congrats Griffin. Enjoy the jacket!
Dude- the timing is insane with this vid!!!!
THANK YOU
@@TheDeahMoths happy to hear it!
Both jackets look great. I actually prefer the slightly oversized jacket, because they’re so easy to move in. One thing I personally might avoid in the future for me is quilted lining. I think I like the wool or flannel lining as with the Indian Ranger (Aero). Now that’s a dreamy jacket!!
@@JonathanGrandt it’s a lot easier to move in, with any amount of layers. I find that I like a variety of linings, as long as they’re breathable
a vest should fit under it, because leather jacket and vest combo rocks, same with chunky turtleneck should fit under it because the combo also rocks, to me the sign of over size jacket is the neck hole, if the collar fits nicely then the jacket will look nice, if the collar is loose then the jacket will appear too big. nice vid!
@@stefanhnavetsea1588 haha yes! Knowing how you want to wear it and sizing appropriately. I’ve noticed too you have a great eye for details like the collar / neck hole. Thanks Navetsea!
First, this is excellent advice, best I have ever seen in a video---your trim fit vs layer differential is exactly what I've learned too over the years. Sizing down is dumb. The next key measure is across the rear shoulder to shoulder; and this is where excellent Japanese brands may be a bit smaller than, say, a Schott. I would suggest one take a jacket that fits well---even a blazer or suit coat---and measure that shoulder to shoulder seam (and account for any padding!) The shoulder has as much to do with layering as the chest, which you know well. Also, perhaps next time we could see the larger of the two with a chunky sweater or two layers?
Yes I plan to make a follow up video for styling examples. I felt like this one was getting long
Interesting. Thanks. I’m also a 40 chest, but taller than Del at 6’2”. I also live in a cooler climate where I rarely wear just a t-shirt under my jacket. I find that size 40 for an outer jacket is almost always very small. I will usually get a 42 for a trim fit and a 44 for a fit with lots of winter layering.
@@peterblum613 thanks for sharing Peter
At 5'8" and 190lbs with a muscular build, I could have used this when I ordered my first real full grain leather jacket. I have three now. The first is a medium, and the other two are larges. The length of the medium is good, but it's tight. Double rider and trucker style jackets are shorter than regular jackets anyway, so the larges aren't too long for me.
Yes for me it was all a shot in the dark with first purchases. Even so there are still surprises; my Aero Highwayman fits very comfortably with about 23" chest. Due to the weight of the leather and restrictions from the design much smaller than that would be too tight
@DudsByDel Yes, with the first jacket I bought it based on my chest measurements but forgot to take into account that I'll be inside the jacket, so the jacket measurement has to be bigger than my chest. Also a lot of the models for jackets tend to be tall skinny guys which doesn't help me.
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Hi, love your posts.. what would you recommend for a 47 chest with the SchoTTS 613 SH Horsehide.. I would like a wide shoulder width and the Schotts website recommends a 48 slim and a 50 standard.. However i don't want it too big on the tummy or too long in the back.. Ty
@@winedave5454 hey Dave! I have about a 40.5” chest and have a size 40. If you like the look of my fit I’d go with the 48.
If you do buy from Schott, would be fantastic if you used my affiliate link. It’s in the description or here: www.schottnyc.com/products/leather-motorcycle-jacket.htm?partner=MrFrown
Please ignore haters on this video.
@@inglessimplificadoquito I most definitely will ignore them. Thanks 🙏
Very nice bro ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
Many many thanks
I DID have to size down in my Vanson, but that’s not the norm. Usually I’m 40 across the board in most trimmer cut jackets.
Yes, same here for several Vansons but not all. Knowing the measurements helps know what will work regardless of deceptive tag sizes
@@DudsByDel yep, 38 in my Model B is spot on with measurements for my two best fitting Aero size 40.
Great video! Thanks man
You bet!
Exactly what I needed!
Glad it could help!
love your channel,
@@davidemms5176 appreciate it David!
I bought the Taylor Stitch Moto Jacket collaboration with Golden Bear. They said my measure would be XS but I feel that it is only comfortable if it is open. It can fully close but I feel pressure in my chest. Also it looks that the chest stretches if I close it and put hands in pockets.
Would you say I need to size up? Some people say that the leather will stretch and that the slim fit is ideal… but I am not sure. Do leather jackets really stretch?
If it’s too tight when zipped up you definitely need to size up
It does sound like you may need to size up. Did you have a chance to measure your chest and take the chest measurement like I showed for the Schott jacket?
I think it is definitely too tight. I already placed a return. Will drop it tomorrow at UPS. My chest size is 38 and this jacket was size 36. The chest was 19.5 (39)… I guess I just had 1 free inch but was not enough.
@@fernandogalvez9805 oh yea that sounds waaaay tight at 1” ease. Good luck with the return / exchange sounds like the right move
I live in South Texas, leather jackets and the weather here, no good... For some reason I spent some money three years ago on a "negan" jacket, for Halloween, thinking hey, I'm getting a leather jacket, it just happens to be two weeks before Halloween. Thinking hey I kinda do really look like him don't I? I'm 5'10", 167lbs....but like a 42. Long story, on Halloween, it looked hella cool. ANY other day, it's really difficult to pull off sporting that jacket. Seeing it on someone else besides Negan... Jacket is staying in the closet.🤟✌️🤙
Up to you man! I lived in south Louisiana up until a few months ago- it was all about air conditioning and opportunity 😅
I have a 47-inch body chest, but when I get a size 46 jacket, it's always fits too big on my chest and waist.
If I go down to size 44, it would probably be too small on my shoulders, and because I'm 6"2, the sleeves are going to be too short!
Man, the frustration of having a nicely built athletic body!!😢😅
I Have Multiple Leather jackets and I prefer a slim fitting style in a true to size large. So that way its trim fitting but NOT tight. That way I Can Layer. I can fit a hand under it when halfway zipped. For my first jacket I Got a "Second Skin" and although it looks great it is a bit uncomfortable and I STILL have some trouble moving. Breaking it in did not Magically solve everything.
@@nofillergamingknight7319 it’s a good point about tight fit looking good- oftentimes folks see a great look, whether it’s on someone else or in the mirror, but unfortunately it’s too tight to wear comfortably.
Hi Del, I often find new biker leather jackets armholes cut into the underside of the upper arm slightly when I try them on. Should they be avoided, or does the armhole usually soften up enough to wear comfortably? These are often horsehide jackets Im trying on.
@@zatarawood3588 I wonder if it’s too small, can’t say that I’ve had that happen. Some designs have trimmer or looser bicep, many Vanson models and a lot of CHP designs for example have more space in the bicep area
@@DudsByDel These are modern Japanese repro makers, the real mccoys buco, & the flathead double rider. Both seem just right, but the armhole catches the upper arm, Im not sure if it all loosens up if the armhole will come up and sit in the actual armhole or not. Perhaps the Japanese makers are making for the asian market with a different proportions which causes issues)
I got a jacket recently and the fit is good. But I can barely hug myself in it and talking on the phone is quite problematic but doable. Maybe it will break in. What do you think? It is from a small company in UK - rugged west. The jacket itself is amazing. I was looking for years for brown/brass combo. Should I worry :D ? And thanks for great videos. Maybe add metric scale as well in description for us - oversea people.
@@Rattus666 I have to wonder if it will be comfortable. Getting it wet can help the break in, I did a video which you can look up.
I actually prefer a more slim cut jacket as I have a build that suits that
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Its beyond frustrating to find a proper fitting jacket. Brands like schott make jackets to fit the average guy, then their slim fits are slightly less average. Then i have a mutant build so its damn impossible. I wish custom jackets weren’t nightmarishly expensive.
Do you have really broad shoulders and long arms or something like that? Anyone with a build far out from the average, which for example includes bodybuilders and other serious athletes, have trouble with off the rack. That being said, you may just focus on getting one or two custom jackets in styles you really admire.
@@DudsByDel yeah im 5’10”. 180 with a 42 chest. But my arm length is as if i was 6’1”. Then a narrow waist but that means i can maybe get two measurements out of chest/length/sleeves/width/sleeve height. But not all of them at once.
@@mikekirby2085 Langlitz or Johnson Leathers will make you a custom piece for around $1000
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You look small for that jacket
It's looks proper to me, especially once it's zipped up (Schott's cut can sometimes be notoriously roomy for American beer bellies, but again, it looks good here to me). What makes you think the jacket is too big a fit to you?
I have to ask which jacket you're talking about?
For the 618 i completely disagree. For the Cal, I could see the argument. However I rarely wear it with just a tee as shown in this video.
It's really much too large. His frame is small so it looks very off putting
Both jackets look good to me. I also own several styles of leather jackets and they all fit and feel different. To me it all depends on what you feel like wearing. I can care less what anyone thinks. Great videos 🙏🏻
Definitely not the case
That Jacket is wearing you ..