What Happened To Carhartt?
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Carhartt is one of the greatest, if not THE greatest workwear brands in the world. Their bibs, overalls, hoodies, beanies, etc. are all legendary of course but today we are looking at one of the originals, one of the greatest jackets of all time. The Carhartt Detroit jacket. Today we'll be comparing the Carhartt J97 Detroit jacket to the modern iteration of it. We'll be looking at firm duck, sandstone duck, and a whole bunch of other things like brass and not brass. We'll also look at blanket linings. And then I'll get rained on. And then I'll be all wet all day.
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I love your in-depth reviews man. Keep up these amazing videos. All the cuts and edits make all your vids so well produced, Its really nice watching. There's very rarely a boring moment
I still remember seeing my dad with his Stanley thermos and Carhartt jacket going to work.
Never thought of them as fashion that's for sure.
It's fascinating see work wear become fashion over time. Lots of Japanese brands are obsessed with classic American workwear from the 30s and 40s for instance.
Yeah, I saw my dad going to work like that as a young boy and I'm like, that's cool dad. Then I got in the trades and there's a lot more too it. But my dad is still cool. He did become a Chicago fireman for over 20 years but had to retire due to a heart issue and now he's back to his old trade as a linesman. Which is way cooler imo. Even though he's still an electrician...😂 jk we love our sparks.
@@stealthiestboy Workwear has always been fashion I mean jeans are workwear clothes and everyone wears it
@@robzsarmy5471 we all know clothing is inherently fashion, but workwear was originally intended for, well work. Not just for expensive fashion brands.
Hey man, thanks for the shoutout! I’m actually heading to Detroit to visit the Carhartt archive in June, I can certainly ask the question about the shell material. I do know that they changed their lining because the old lining was actually insanely low quality. It was chosen for the durability as you mentioned, but was very close to car trunk lining in quality.
While I have a very special connection to my J97, in my opinion the best Detroit jacket ever was the 6QLJ with the red nylon quilt lining. Love your videos bro, nicely done! I’ll try to get some more answers from the source on my trip to the archive (which I really hope is in a cool cement vault with a big iron door and some dude named Boris guarding it).
Gotta get you a Carhartt vault suit
As a blue collar worker from the Midwest I have to say yes modern Carhartt is great and holds up very well to wear and tear.
yes they do. My older jackets are warmer for some reason. Just something I've noticed.
In Europe we got not normal Carhartt just the Fashion version (WIP)
@@robzsarmy5471 wrong, i got two regular Carhartt jackets, traditional coat and sawtooth parka in Poland
Yeah, I left a comment on the Short that led me into this bigger video. I have a J130-M made in Mexico, just the standard farming jacket here in the Midwest. Was $100, and is almost just like the Carhartt I remember as a kid. Almost all the complaints he had of this jacket weren't an issue in mine.
@@robzsarmy5471 Depends where. You can get much of the classic lines in any EU countries.
I'd love to see a work pants comparison video between Dickies Ben Davis, Carhaart etc.
Duluth
Carl Murawski did one or two videos doing just this
It's like 50 different models of Dickies now.
1620 and orgin review be nice
This!
As a blue collared worker. I think some of the criticism carhartt gets comes from people wearing it as a fashion piece, instead of what it’s meant for. which I don’t have a problem with. But, I’ve seen people blame the quality coming down due to them believing they are catering to non blue collared workers.
Could there be a third type of people who aren't necessarily blue collared workers that are looking for some clothes that are more durable than what they are used to?
@@UpperCumberlandGamers yeah, for sure. It’s smart, get some durable work pants that can last way longer being worn for daily use. Personally I don’t wear work clothing outside of work due to comfortability. But I know a lot of people who like wearing heavier clothes
@@p1mpmasterbackhand I mean, it is becoming an issue with a lot of companies cutting corners so that the clothing that they make lasts less in a sort of planned obsolescence program. I've personally noticed this with my clothing where old clothing just seems to be more durable than new clothing.
@@UpperCumberlandGamers yeah I have too. I usually buy the cheap clothing from target, because I’ve realize it last just as long as name brand stuff these days.
@@UpperCumberlandGamers if you get some good solid work pants, you'll rarely have to actually wash them, which wears denim out pretty good, as well as other materials like whatever chinos are. Aside from that, I'm not *actively* a blue collar guy, but cmon now I was an infantryman for 4 years and done construction for a few years on top of that. There's absolutely nothing wrong with not being blue collar but wanting more durable clothes than aren't mass produced as cheaply as humanly possible without any care for quality or durability. For underwear/shirts, look into the George brand at Walmart, and carhartt is the gold standard, but dickies and a few others are fairly solid. Carhartt is like the Toyota and dickies is Ford. Both serviceable, will do the job no problem, but one has more thought and care put into it, if that makes sense.
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The term you're looking for with the J97 is that it's interlined rather than lined. This tends to add more structure to the jacket as the liner also supports the outer fabric. While it's not as clean as a liner, it has more benefits in a work piece.
I love the editing and location of your videos! Also a super informative video as well.
About 20 years ago I bought Carhartt Extreme coat and bibs. I still wear them on occasion when it’s REALLY cold outside and I’m doing work. They are extremely durable. But I am also more prone to wearing more “style” than utilitarian clothing now in my 50s.
Great video, love the J97 line I have 3 jackets in the model that I plan on keeping for many years.
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The Detroit Jacket is one of my favorite pieces ever. I've had a couple from the late 90's (older version) to early 00's (newer-ish version, but not the new version). I could seconds at a Carhartt Outlet for around $50. Back then I used to wear my clothes waaaay too big, and the jackets were oversized. I eventually got rid of them. Now I sooooooo wish I kept them (I also had a brown duck Type III blanket lined jacket, that I still wish I had). I've ordered and returned the modern Detroit Jacket. It's a travesty. They've neutered it. I'm interested in the W.I.P. version(s) but they're asking a lot for it. I may get one just for nostalgia. _______ Great video! Well done.
I got the best of both worlds. I have a model which is around 10-15 years old. Nice thick material with corduroy collar from before the redesigned detroit, but it has the modern collar snaps.
And it's got the pocket lining!
Great information, always enjoy your videos. Thanks!
Thanks for the video buddy, just finished my first week as a union sheet metal worker, got to listen on my drive home!
One thing I liked about some of the older Carhartts is they had numerical sizing instead of S, M, L. I wear a 38R jacket so it was easy to just look for a 38R Carhartt and it would fit. There was less of a jump between sizes so it was easier to find a perfect fit. My J01 and J02 from the late 2000s are size 38.
My 125 is my favorite jacket. I bought the snap on hood to go with it. I’ve owned mine for almost 20 years. It’s nowhere near to looking old. The thing’s bulletproof…
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Classic Michael and the iron snail. THANK YOU for this.
Great video about their product lineup
if you like the fit of the J97 check out the OJ6306-M form Carhartt, but it's hard to find
Nice vidéo, and, nice Zenith!
I have one from the '90s no idea what model # it is. Its always been to short and boxy but the details and the duck fabric were amazing
A vintage J97 (in red especially) is far more expensive than a new one now days !! Carhartt crazy!
There’s really a difference in the zippers carhartt actually made the hole rounded so you can pull from a 360 degree angle, because they got feed back that the old zipper used to break when you pulled them up from an angle
What an awesome vid ... Thank you!
Just don’t buy the fancy carhartt fashion junk and you’ll be fine.
Immediate suscribe. Love this kind of info video.
I had gotten a new carhartt winter jacket at the beginning of the season. One of the J130, it was slightly different than my previous 2 jackets. I was a little surprised by the small details put into it. Still great quality and one of my all time favorite pieces of clothing. Though I’m probably in the minority that I do cut off the small patch on the pocket.
As you said, there’s only so much manufacturing capacity that they have available in house. I do wish they offered a higher tier USA made Detroit jacket even if it meant a higher price. I will pay more for USA made higher quality. That may not be as popular of an option these days though. Good video!
As an oilfield worker in west Texas, Carhartt FR holds up very well. I realize those are niche products made to ASNI and/or NFPA standards but I did want to still throw a point towards modern Carhartt.
Informative and entertaining as always, keep it up Snail!
I honestly like not having a pocket liner, it makes my jacket more utilitarian as I can reliably put my hand in there and grab things out.
And I’ve been using a Carhartt jacket for framing/agricultural work for the last 2 years and the pockets haven’t failed or had any signs of failure.
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Great video. I was always wondering why carhartt was still somewhat popular with enthusiats and now I know why. In my region they only sell "Work in Progress", and the quality is not good, to put it politely. So until now, I thought that was Carhartt quality. The Fashion division really tarnishes the brand, because most people will think that that is the Carhartt of today.
Hi! Hard disagree. I own a whole lotta Carhartt items, both Workwear and WIP and while I haven't done an in-depth comparison like in the vid, I feel the general quality between the two is very similar. I guess YMMV, but these are my personal thoughts.
I bought the Active Jac in firm duck. I got it specifically because it will break in over time. It's been a week and it's already much softer.
Still got a hoodie and double knee pants with the US made label in them. They are built different. Had em for a long long time. Quality was amazing back then, and hard to get in 🇬🇧 at that time
I also have the bibs with the nice blanket like lining and man both my Detroit jacket and my bibs have held up to insane torture I do all sorts of general construction, labor and low voltage work and I’ve never had a problem
If you're looking for a good alternative to the Detroit jacket with a couple more original 50s features then - the Sugar Cane duck canvas work jacket is excellent - Picked a brand new one up on eBay recently for £92 and have worn it every day.
Michael!!! Carhartt just released the "re-engineed" Detroit jacket! You should do another video on it comparing it to these
I have an old one and a new one with the superdux, and I like them both, but the dux is warmer and more comfortable.
At the end of the day, clothing is the sum of its parts. Polyester is polyester, cotton is cotton, nylon is nylon etc. You can buy Lululemon, Vuori, Carhartt or any other popular brand, but the cheaper brands use the same materials. Clothing is all about showing people what brand you're wearing via a logo, and brands charge a premium for that "honor". Honestly though, I respect the business of it all. Exploiting people who can't wrap their heads around what they're spending their money on is really pretty genius. I also think it's kind of funny how people that wear Carhartt as work clothing because it's a "Merican" brand and rugged are just buying foreign made items that have essentially become streetwear. Modern branding is truly a masterclass in manipulation. You have to respect it though. What's also interesting is that cotton is terrible at wicking moisture. So, when you're working and sweating while wearing a Carhartt jacket it's actually significantly worse to wear versus a man made material like polyester or nylon. There's a reason athletes, mountain climbers, or anyone doing any type of physical activity wear synthetic materials. Cotton isn't the way to go if you're going to be sweating at all.
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Their quality has declined and their prices went up. Thanks NAFTA.
From 2019-2022 i was working nights on an open shipping dock (it was basically working outdoors) in northwest Indiana. I had to endure 3 midwest winters at night. My Carhartt duck jacket and Carhartt coveralls came in clutch. If you're wearing them for their intended purpose (to keep you warm while being able to still move and work) these fuckers work like a charm. When it comes to jackets, Carhartt is the golden standard for me.
Any news about the mammoth jacket restock?
And what about Super Dux fabric? Pro and cons? Thanks, and cheers from Italy 🇮🇹
I have a 7 or 8 year old carhart I’ve had since I was a teenager and it’s closer to the older carhart but the lining is the same as the newest one very odd
As always @TheIronSnail, great, warm, engaging story-telling.
This is why I’ve bought old school carhartt jackets shorts and pants
Which is stronger? A polyester lining or a wool lining(both 100%)?
Yo I had a Carhartt quick duck jacket on while I was rolling some metal in the shop and it was cold and it got stuck in the roller and I had my phone and something else in the inside zip pocket. Luckily I stepped on the emergency stop button. It ruined the zipper on the inside and the stitching, but I didn't get hurt and neither did my phone, that was a week old at the time, or anything else in my pockets, except for a can of rogue nicotine pouches lol. That went through the roller.
Edit: yes I should know not to wear loose or draping clothes while using a roller, and I normally wouldn't, but it took the one time of me being to lazy to take it off for something to happen.
Carhartt used to produce quality clothing, backed it up and cared about their customers. Carhartt is now content to trade on their past and they don’t back up their products anymore!
What’s the song near the end?
beautiful song 1:30
Please make video about Chinese denim red tornado jeans
What pants are the green ones your are wearing
12:30 J140 & B01are imported now. last season made in usa was spring 23. pretty sure nothing is made in usa as of 2024. gloves, socks, boots, kids clothes and backpacks are licensed out to other manufacturers. new detroit drops this fall; corduroy lining instead of blanket, 25.5" back, snap adj hem.
I had Mexican made Carhartt pants; triple stitched but where did it fail? The fabric split just next to the seam, and I don't even work construction.
I know that this has nothing to do with the video but i can't find any good videos about these brands so if you could look at them that would be great. round house (they make clothes similar to carhartt stuff) and stormy kromer coat/vest (they make wool coats and vests like the filson Mackinaw wool stuff) I love your videos so it would be great if you could if not I understand thanks
dont own any sweaters cuz its so hot where i live but loved the video
Mr Snail! Great content as always. Will you consider making watch content on this channel?
Three pair of Carhart work jeans had a belt loop break. Never had any other brand of jean do that.
I got 30+ old carhartt jackets and I prefer them over the new version
Been waiting for this man, good stuff!
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Bro, what size is that J97? I have a few ancient mediums and they don’t fit me as good as this lol
Levi's, Filson and Dickies. They all used to occupy the space that Carhartt exists in now, but they've all transformed into different companies for different customers. Carhartt WILL drop their quality because the masses are less demanding, and they won't bother sending the clothes in for repair because they'd rather buy new stuff anyway, which is great for business. Eventually a new company, like Blaklader, will take their place as Carhartt pivots into more of a lifestyle brand, like Patagonia.
I still own and use Dearborn made with union labor “Detroit” jacket , Bibs and a black jacket I can’t be bothered to look up the model of. I will pass these on to my Grandson-in-law. The Mexican stuff is better than most but not up to the Dearborn stuff.
You are the Attenborough of heritage menswear.
I haven't bought a Carhartt since they changed the lining in the sleeves. I hate the feeling of that nylon silky jacket feeling. Whether it's a suit jacket or a Carhartt the feeling is disgusting to me.
Take a drink every time he says Carhartt lol
As a European, i got a lot of WIP products, and they are awesome, old school fits and really nice materials, but the price is ridiculous!
The USA made Carhartt is very hard come by new. They need to expand more into the EU, i don't wanna pay 150€ on a summer chore coate 😭
Those are elbow darts not gussets, gussets are when extra material is added.
Michael I cannot tell you how much I have been looking forward to this video!
Let’s gooo Micheal!
Very much looking forward to Michael in the reboot of ‘The Wanderers’
I wonder if he will review Origin boots?
Good vid
There I was minding my own business, and the next thing I know, I’ve purchased another Carharrt! 😂
damn, that rain looks like it ruined a great hair day.
My carhartt WiP Michigan coat has ripped and torn on elbows around neck and at the pockets. I love it but it’s a hobo style now, fiancée won’t let me wear it unless I work garden or on our bikes😢
Ten years ago it was black too, now it’s obviously no. I have to source steh true carhartt in Europe
Not too familiar with the main line Carhartt considering I'm not a tradesman or blue-collar worker in general. I don't like cosplaying as a plumber when I work a desk job.
However, I am a fan of the WIP line which is fashion oriented. The Newman coat and the Highland jacket are some great pieces.
The old one looks so much better but I way prefer short trucker, bomber, and rider jackets in general.
expensive UPS looking uniform 🤦♂️
Have you ever considered going into the podcast format?
I think the modern jacket has a better zipper because you can swivel it around which makes it less likely to break unlike the old jacket that only goes up or down.
Is Iron Snail working on a waxed jacket 👀
3.55 I'm scared
I need that Carhartt WAP not wip
Shout out to the next chapter for Harris
Review starts at 6:00 mark. Sheez dude.
I had one it was sooo stiff I never wore it
Doesn’t WIP stand for “Work in Progress” which is more like the streetwear brand of Carhart
What happened ? Same thing that happens to all products. The company cuts costs/quality to increase profits.
Getting a J97 or a J02 is so damn hard in germany