I've been using the V3 for a year, mounted neatly inside my Sim Labs P1 rig. Within vr especially I find the immersion it provides excellent. In fact I can't sim without it now. It also helps in a big way if you suffer from nausea when wearing an HMD as your brain is registering movement that it's expecting to, (despite the restrictions of 2DOF), based on what your eyes are seeing. As Barry says, the range of movement is very much down to individual choice and there is no right and wrong. I personally prefer the settings dialed right down though, with the motion cues I enjoy based on the 'less is more' principle. For example I don't like the seat surging forward too aggressively under braking and compressing the distance to the pedals. Great for the abs, less so for pedal finesse! The post-processing settings are also worth exploring for dialing in an even better experience, especially when it comes to creating individual profiles for different car types, for example formula vs non-formula where the range and nature of movement differs. Indeed the supporting motion platform software is excellent, quick, simple and intuitive on the one hand but plenty deep enough on the other. Another shout has to go out to Next Level Racing's customer service and after sales / developer support. They are quick to respond about anything and extremely helpful. Secondly they listen to their customers and a few ideas that I and others have suggested to them, which we believe would improve the experience, have been added to firmware and software updates. Highly recommended!
It fit inside the SIMLAB P1? you have some photo of your rig ? i also have a P1 and i was curios to know if there was a was to fit the V3 on the P1, because over the long rail is a no-no situation, the seat will goes to much high. But if it fit inside ill buy one in the near future!
@@ODIOPOWER Yes, using aluminium angle you can lower it neatly inside the P1 and fix it securely. It's tight but fits perfectly. Have a look here. www.racedepartment.com/threads/buying-advice-please-next-level-v3-motion-platform.137061/page-24#post-2752208
Great solution, I was thinking the same. Or run some aluminum plate on the underside of the 40/160 rails with a 50 or 60mm lip protruding to catch corner brackets mounted to the unit.
Basically there is an unwritten rule (sometimes even written, sometimes even paid for) that if you accept products for review you aren't going to bash them. If you do you wont get anymore products for review and your channel suffers. All UA-camrs are shills and they have to be to stay in business. Personally I love in other videos how he says this is real good high quality 3d printing ROFL!
Looking to purchase this model. Very indepth and informative review. Ive subscribed. Hello from Scotland. On Dirt 2.0 i live 20 miles away from the dlc pack which features the Perth and Kinross stage. You should give it a go - a true challange! :)
Awesome finally someone who has tried different motion sims, was going to buy the ProSimu s5 but after watching this think I’ll just buy this for $4000 pocket the other $8000
@@FirstLast-tx3yj hi, i have been using this for quite a while now, and i can say that without comparing to other units it is very good, obviously the level of FFB would be determined by the platform your playing, iracing or rFactor etc. If the settings are left at default it would just about throw you out of the seat, i have turned the settings down on mine. The feedback is great, you can tell when you go over curbing, you can tell either left or right side, and front or rear wheels, amazing lol. The only complaint is the amount of play it has when not in use, the seat rocks back and forward a lot in my opinion, it is within spec appatently though, hope this helps
Thank you for the excellent review! I really feel this covered all the bases, and it is the first review of this product to do that. I appreciate especially that you can compare it to other systems because you have experience with them. Keep up the awesome work!
I'm Barry Rowland, and thank for checking the Sim Racing Garage Sale, don't forget to, steer some wheels, mash some pedals, and if you like what we sell here, don't forget to check out our website, at sim racing garage, dot com
I've had the V2 for a few years and I really enjoy it (purchased a few months before the V3 came out). I think going to a D-Box would be the only motion upgrade I would consider. The only issue we've had with it is it's a bit noisy at night when everyone else is trying to sleep. I've heard the V3 is a little quieter.
Barry, once again, you are the best! Im getting the v3 in a couple months and I just picked up the GT1-Evo & was wondering how to attach it to that rig LOL
Sim Lab has a Next Level Racing V3 mount kit available. They haven't listed it on their website yet. It will be included with my P1 kit. Darko described it as 6 brackets, some spacers and fasteners! I have to say that Sim Lab has been a real pleasure to work with. I can't wait to put my P1 cockpit together! I'm looking forward to seeing how the NLR V3 feels too!
I bought the V3 last August to fit on my Next level GT seat, and the only problem was it was one hell of an effect to screw it to my existing seat, other than that it works well, the cost in Australia around $4,000.00 is a bit expensive
Grat review, thxs!! Another review stated that 2-3 seconds could be lost on a lap, which sounds huge, and that we need to get used to it to reach back our usual perf. Did you notice any change on your lap times?
Hay Barry, great review m8, if you ever experience the car rolling over with the motion platform you really get tossed around lol Also, in DCS, you can feel the wind pockets effect the plane, amazing realisim
In a real car, the entire car dives under braking, rolls in corners, and pitches under acceleration. So the pedals actually do move in the same way the seat moves bc the platform on which the seat and pedals and wheel is attached moves. The reason it matters is the distance btwn the driver and the controls remains static which gives you a stable platform to make and maintain smooth inputs.
Any plans for reviewing the Dofreality 2-dof motion platform? It is a full chassis platform but at about half the cost of this one. It appears to be gaining traction among sim enthusiasts
I've had lots of issues with my dof reality I would hold off. I would happily pay more for something else if I would of known I'd have so many issues. I've had my motion platform for over 3 months and I still dont have it working properly. Really a bummer. I feel like I've lost a lot of money.... lot's of wasted time trying to fix it and its wobbly when its off so I dont use it my rig hardly at all anymore.
I purchasee an M2 seat mover to bolt up to my sim lab p1. I supllied them with measurments, when I received the unit 4 weeks later i noticed it was way too wide and would not bolt it. Called them they admitted they didn't look measurments. They told me to bring it to a fabricator of my choice here in California to get it fixed snd pay for it myself. I obviously declined this and told them to build me another set of mounting brackets. 4 weeks later I recieved the new brackets. They were built wrong still but I was able to adjust my simlab p1 to make it work. After installing the new bracket I noticed my left motor was acting very lazy. After hours of testing on my end I figured out it was broken. Sent them an email. After a week of back and fourth enails of graphs etc....they said it was a 30 dollar controller unit in the box. They also suggested I buy one myself and apply thermal paste because it will be much faster then then shipping it. Again with my own money. I disagreed with this finding because I was sure it was the motor. I swapped plugs and put the bad motor on the good controller... I was right. Motor is bad. It's been another week emailing them more charts and back and fourth with no solutuon as of yet. Only reason I haven't posted on forums is because I'm afraid they might not honor the warranty. There is even more then this, just wanted to give a quick overview.
@@joshuabenson2568 there are lots of people with good experiences it seems. I'll most likely buy a simxperience 2dof kit too add to my cockpit. I think a lot of people that are happy are not hardcore sim racers or dont know what else is out there.
Great review Barry as always...!!! 👌 However, I'm curious as to the unboxed dimensions of the unit and if it's possible to slide this unit into the rectangular spacing that's normally available under the seat of a "SIM-LAB P1" chassis...??? 🤔 Will it clear the four walls of that area? Thanks 👌🤔
Yes it will fit inside. It is too wide with the side mounts. You will need to fabricate some kind of a mount because it is a bit narrow without the side mounts. A regular corner bracket like the ones I used in this installation are too short. You could use some washers to space them out from the V3's chassis. I was thinking about mounting some 1/4" plate aluminum plate underneath the side 40/160 profiles with 2" protruding towards the inside of the chassis. Then use corner brackets to mount to that. This would sit the entire unit low enough that your seat height would be very similar to the regular seat rails that come in the P1 kit. Or use some angle aluminum along the inside channels of the 40/160 profile and adjust the height that way. Many ways to go about it.
Hi Barry love the channel mate, I'm looking at getting one of these, would it be something that you would use all the time when sim racing ? Thanks from Australia
Great review. Currently I have a problem, I updated the manager and the sensation of the gear change inverted me, to the point that I returned to the previous version of manager... do you know where that part of the gears is configured? Regards!
Hey Barry, could you review the 3 DOF system from dofreality? It lookes like a pretty good piece of kit but I'd like to see your thoughts on how it handles your OSW and HPPs
This. Barry your videos are my go to for expert sim racing hardware reviews, would love to have your take on the H3 DOF Reality setup as you've had experience with a DBox and the NLR seat mover.
late to the party sorry about that and here because i got this platform from a friend who upgraded to the dof p3 and with vr its fantastic but lacks a few features like vibration, he says for the price you pay when you have to pay import duties and the vat its not really worth it, for the full dofreality p3 podium it was close to £6.5k after all taxes and thats some serious cash
Barry great job on reviewing this unit! I was wondering if I need to purchase the same seat brackets you’re using in this video or any other seat brackets would do the job. I forgot to mention that I own the same sparco seat you have. Thanks in advance!
I can't say for anything other than the Sparco brackets. Sparco does make a cheaper steel side bracket that has the exact same hole pattern on the bottom flange. So they should work to. I did have to fiddle with the bolts to get them all in. Just leave them all loose as you put them in and you should be able to make it work.
Great review as always Barry. Notice you running an AF V2 on your second rig - would be great if you could share your settings in Assetto and PC2 as I’d love to try your setups. Can you share via owners club or screen shot your Simxperience and Assetto controller setup (INC in car ffb setting ). Thanks in advance and keep up the excellent and informative content 👍🏼
Sparco 004903. I got them used for a good deal. New they are rather expensive. I also have a set of the Sparco 4902. They are half the price and work just as well.
Hi Barry, love the films, thanks so much for all the great reviews, I’m working my way through them. I’m new to Sim racing and would be interested to know what PC specs you’d recommend to run Project Cars, Assetto Corsa etc and what might be a good starting rig for a passionate car fan who wants to get in to Sim racing. Thanks.
Get the best PC you can get with the latest graphics card and get SSD Drives. Racing games don’t need a lot of power u just need it when racing online. Also, get good upload speed just in case u want to host a race.
Great review Barry. I wish this was up a few months ago... I've made sone regretful decisions lately.... is this better then the sim experience seat mover? I can add one of those to my rig for about $2000
love your vids Barry. Question on mounting the seat. I have the stock NLR seat but this thing is not worth the money i paid for. You mention in the video that you have to fiddle with this sparco evo to mount it. Did it give you any trouble? Ive read many forums that the base doesn't accommodate seats very well .
25:52 I used some washers as spacers to push the seat brackets out enough to get the holes to line up. I really don't like this version of the Sparco brackets, as they have a strange curve to them. I am about to buy some new ones where the bottom mounting flange is more perpendicular to the side of the bracket. Should make it a bit easier to mount.
Great setup, I was curious to know about race room with the direct drive and your settings if possible. I have been having a hard with osw to get it dialed in with it. I know you have a leo bodnar wheel but I was just curious to try them out. Thank you
Great review Barry. This is certainly on my short list for 2019. Seem like it should drop into my P1 without issue. Curious of the make and size triple monitors you are using for this demo? Thanks again for the thorough review. Tony.
Sim Racing Garage Thank Barry. You find the 27 inch sufficient? I keep bouncing between 27 and 32. I’m having some difficulty committing to one or the other for my final build.
Great review Barry. Can I ask what fittings you used to fit the NLR MP V3 onto the GT1-Evo and if any adjustments had to be made to get it to fit? I have the same rig, and after watching your review I want one! On another note, with a regular racing seat rather than a bucket, should I be worried about falling out? :)
Start here: 19:46 Only other thing I did was add 2 washers between the corner brackets and the side of the V3's chassis where the bolt holes are. This to space the bracket out about 4mm for better fitment to the profile grooves.
Hi Barry, great review. Would it not be an option to combine this NLR simulator with your dBox simulator? Than muscle tension can be created by this one and all the car effects can be created by the dBox. Best of 2 worlds or am I wrong?
I do intend to try it when I get the chance. Just real busy right now. There may be a sync issue, as you would be combining to different types of actuators systems. And syncing the two software programs could be tricky. I ran into this a bit when combining the GS-4 seat with the Stage 4 rig from SimXperience. It worked fine, but I could feel a bit of lag between the speed of the SCN''s and the servo motors on the GS-4. Even when being driven by the same software.
Do you think lap times would go up with a setup like this or is it more just for the sensation? Just looking for your opinion, I'm sure it depends on the user. Cool video.
Probably not with it set to higher force levels. But, with it turned down to "less is more" type settings it does give you more information to react to than with just a DD wheel alone. So, it could help you to be faster. Really depends on the driver I think.
Barry did you measure the dampening spring rates (or could you if you still have it?), I'm looking at a DOF Reality M2 as I can't afford one of these and adding springs I think is a must to remove the obvious play from the lash.
I want to do some flight sim stuff. And DCS is my favorite Sim. Finding the time is the problem. I currentlly have a 5 week backlog of Sim Raicng hardware to review. Maybe I will run out of things to review for Sim Racing and focus on Flight sim hardware for a while. Sim Flying Garage???
@@simracinggarage3026 I wanna see a 360 degree flight simulator!!!!!! It would be even more interesting if there was a roller coaster that integrated with it.
How big the input lag is? Is it truly an instant feeling it provides, or it's rather with an annoying delay? It's important for me, since if it's immediate, then it could be useful for improving my racing pace. If it has more than 0.3 sec lag, then in my opinion it's useless. Thanks for the info!
gtrsimulator now has a full motion rig on their website , could you do a review on it ? I think it might be a good comparison to the next level racing v3 motion platform at that price level .
The wheel shoud be coupled to the platform so it's not changing the distance between the seat and the wheel as it moves. That's really immersion breaking, imo.
They are two different types of movement. I prefer the Dbox, as the whole chassis moves, instead of just the seat. That' not to say a seat mover is not a good solution, it is. Just like it better when my wheel, pedals and peripherals move together as they would in a real life. 27" monitors.
Hi Barry!! I’m in a bit of a dilemma here . I have the Next Level Racing V3 platform mounted on a Simlab p1 chassis and I’m in the middle of building the sfx-100. I’m contemplating wether I should keep the v3 and combine with sfx-100 or return it and get the gs-5 sear from sim experience, or just have the sfx-100 by itself. ( If anyone has any experience with the combination of both, please share. I appreciate your help). Love all your videos by the way Thanks In advance!
Hi Barry. I just purchased the NLR Motion Simulator. It is installed in a NLR GTultimate v2 cockpit. When I lean back or push on my brake pedal the Motion Simulator rocks back. It’s definitely in the motion unit itself not the seat. Is that normal?
Could I theoretically attach this thing to a setup where the wheel and pedals are on it as well so I could have everything moving. Seeing the wheel be stationary while you are moving must be an immersion breaker.
Would it be possible to build a frame that connects to the seat and the pedals and wheel? I would much prefer everything to move at the same time and It doesn't seem like it would add much extra weight and the system seems pretty robust. I am really thinking of buying one but I am planning on doing that and hope it works. Thanks for any feedback and good video.
Barry do me a favor, please tell me how to hook this thing up to my computer? The power cable is on the bottom rights front side and I'm assuming that bizarre looking cable which ironically did not come with my kid goes on the other side? I thought it was just a simple USB cable? You didn't show that part where you hook the thing up I watched the whole video and you don't even show how you hook the physical wires up I know I'm maybe not a brightest bulb but please answer and help me out...
I'm about 250lbs @ 5'11 do you think it'll have problems holding that weight? will it loose force feed back strength after 2 hours of playing at my weight?
I've been using the V3 for a year, mounted neatly inside my Sim Labs P1 rig. Within vr especially I find the immersion it provides excellent. In fact I can't sim without it now. It also helps in a big way if you suffer from nausea when wearing an HMD as your brain is registering movement that it's expecting to, (despite the restrictions of 2DOF), based on what your eyes are seeing. As Barry says, the range of movement is very much down to individual choice and there is no right and wrong. I personally prefer the settings dialed right down though, with the motion cues I enjoy based on the 'less is more' principle. For example I don't like the seat surging forward too aggressively under braking and compressing the distance to the pedals. Great for the abs, less so for pedal finesse! The post-processing settings are also worth exploring for dialing in an even better experience, especially when it comes to creating individual profiles for different car types, for example formula vs non-formula where the range and nature of movement differs. Indeed the supporting motion platform software is excellent, quick, simple and intuitive on the one hand but plenty deep enough on the other. Another shout has to go out to Next Level Racing's customer service and after sales / developer support. They are quick to respond about anything and extremely helpful. Secondly they listen to their customers and a few ideas that I and others have suggested to them, which we believe would improve the experience, have been added to firmware and software updates. Highly recommended!
It fit inside the SIMLAB P1? you have some photo of your rig ? i also have a P1 and i was curios to know if there was a was to fit the V3 on the P1, because over the long rail is a no-no situation, the seat will goes to much high. But if it fit inside ill buy one in the near future!
@@ODIOPOWER Yes, using aluminium angle you can lower it neatly inside the P1 and fix it securely. It's tight but fits perfectly. Have a look here. www.racedepartment.com/threads/buying-advice-please-next-level-v3-motion-platform.137061/page-24#post-2752208
Yes. The V3 is 460mm wide without the side brackets. The P1's inner dimension is 500mm wide.
Great solution, I was thinking the same. Or run some aluminum plate on the underside of the 40/160 rails with a 50 or 60mm lip protruding to catch corner brackets mounted to the unit.
Mac10UK tnx a lot mate! Now I just need to find 3k euro and buy the v3 xdxd
Wow. Barry did the V3. Fantastic. Thanks a bunch.
Barry would make a fortune reviewing hair conditioner : )
i watched this video trhee times and tooday i pulled the trigger, can't wait to install it on my rig!
are you happy with it?
Any feedback or u didnt buy it?!
ODIO POWER any feedback
ODIO
Lyer
NoLimits 2 Roller Coaster and a VR headset is a must for this also.
Who would love to just once hear Barry say in that announcer voice, "This thing, is a complete piece of shit".
This legit made me lol
Basically there is an unwritten rule (sometimes even written, sometimes even paid for) that if you accept products for review you aren't going to bash them. If you do you wont get anymore products for review and your channel suffers. All UA-camrs are shills and they have to be to stay in business.
Personally I love in other videos how he says this is real good high quality 3d printing ROFL!
Love how you constantly tinker with things to really understand it! Really helps understand and utilize the systems effectively!
I got this like 2 months ago and I love it.
stikupartist 3 how much did u pay for all?thanks
Barry as usual you knocked it out of the park. Great show man :)
Amazing as always ! Thanks for all the time and work you put in your videos
Outstanding product ... have had mine for a year and a half and love love it !! Incredible with VR and my AF direct drive wheel
Looking to purchase this model. Very indepth and informative review. Ive subscribed. Hello from Scotland. On Dirt 2.0 i live 20 miles away from the dlc pack which features the Perth and Kinross stage. You should give it a go - a true challange! :)
Awesome finally someone who has tried different motion sims, was going to buy the ProSimu s5 but after watching this think I’ll just buy this for $4000 pocket the other $8000
I'm considering the ProSimu too, actually. With the 150 'cause i do flight sims too.
It’s still a rip off at $4k
"Can such a small package deliver a truly immersive driving experience?"
Yes it can!! :)
How does it compare to chassis movers and chair movers?! They cost way more and take way more space. Please let me know
@@FirstLast-tx3yj hi, i have been using this for quite a while now, and i can say that without comparing to other units it is very good, obviously the level of FFB would be determined by the platform your playing, iracing or rFactor etc.
If the settings are left at default it would just about throw you out of the seat, i have turned the settings down on mine. The feedback is great, you can tell when you go over curbing, you can tell either left or right side, and front or rear wheels, amazing lol. The only complaint is the amount of play it has when not in use, the seat rocks back and forward a lot in my opinion, it is within spec appatently though, hope this helps
Thank you for the excellent review! I really feel this covered all the bases, and it is the first review of this product to do that. I appreciate especially that you can compare it to other systems because you have experience with them. Keep up the awesome work!
When you have a garage sale please let me know.....
I'm Barry Rowland, and thank for checking the Sim Racing Garage Sale, don't forget to, steer some wheels, mash some pedals, and if you like what we sell here, don't forget to check out our website, at sim racing garage, dot com
Barry WE MISS YOU! There is no one doing review like you! THX for what you did BUT pls come back, will you? :)
I've had the V2 for a few years and I really enjoy it (purchased a few months before the V3 came out). I think going to a D-Box would be the only motion upgrade I would consider. The only issue we've had with it is it's a bit noisy at night when everyone else is trying to sleep. I've heard the V3 is a little quieter.
65 dB for the V3. 72 dB or so for other actuator type systems. ;-)
That gentle rev limiter remander feels as soft as a winter morning 6:00 o'clock alarm clock. 💩
I've spent so much money because of this man
I've ordered mine can't wait to install it
Thanks for an informative video on this NLR motion V3. I am really interested in this since I have the full NLR V2. Cockpit.
Great review as always Barry my friend.
Barry, once again, you are the best! Im getting the v3 in a couple months and I just picked up the GT1-Evo & was wondering how to attach it to that rig LOL
Check our Race Department forums we have a thread for V3 owners and a few of us have some solid solutions.
Sim Lab has a Next Level Racing V3 mount kit available. They haven't listed it on their website yet. It will be included with my P1 kit. Darko described it as 6 brackets, some spacers and fasteners! I have to say that Sim Lab has been a real pleasure to work with. I can't wait to put my P1 cockpit together! I'm looking forward to seeing how the NLR V3 feels too!
I need this. Lord do I need this.👍🏻
New to your channel Thank you for your informative reviews your input has helped me design and build my current sim. Thank you.
I bought the V3 last August to fit on my Next level GT seat, and the only problem was it was one hell of an effect to screw it to my existing seat, other than that it works well, the cost in Australia around $4,000.00 is a bit expensive
hi Anthony, are you still using it? Thinking of getting it for FS2020, I am in Brisbane
Grat review, thxs!! Another review stated that 2-3 seconds could be lost on a lap, which sounds huge, and that we need to get used to it to reach back our usual perf. Did you notice any change on your lap times?
I am actually considering buying this thing, thank you very much for the review!
Brick Zhou no your not
Thanks for another informative and entertaining sim racing hardware video, oh and for making it ever harder to keep my wallet shut !
Hay Barry, great review m8, if you ever experience the car rolling over with the motion platform you really get tossed around lol
Also, in DCS, you can feel the wind pockets effect the plane, amazing realisim
When you think about it, the wheel and pedals not moving is more realistic to the force you feel when your driving a real car.
In a real car, the entire car dives under braking, rolls in corners, and pitches under acceleration. So the pedals actually do move in the same way the seat moves bc the platform on which the seat and pedals and wheel is attached moves.
The reason it matters is the distance btwn the driver and the controls remains static which gives you a stable platform to make and maintain smooth inputs.
thank you very much Mattew!
Love your presentation voice. Super professional.
Hi Barry. Thanks for one more great review! Im just wondering if you culd tell us which wheel are you using on that rig, please.
Another instant classic video.
Any plans for reviewing the Dofreality 2-dof motion platform? It is a full chassis platform but at about half the cost of this one. It appears to be gaining traction among sim enthusiasts
I've had lots of issues with my dof reality I would hold off. I would happily pay more for something else if I would of known I'd have so many issues. I've had my motion platform for over 3 months and I still dont have it working properly. Really a bummer. I feel like I've lost a lot of money.... lot's of wasted time trying to fix it and its wobbly when its off so I dont use it my rig hardly at all anymore.
@@jonberg469 could you elaborate on that?
I purchasee an M2 seat mover to bolt up to my sim lab p1. I supllied them with measurments, when I received the unit 4 weeks later i noticed it was way too wide and would not bolt it. Called them they admitted they didn't look measurments. They told me to bring it to a fabricator of my choice here in California to get it fixed snd pay for it myself. I obviously declined this and told them to build me another set of mounting brackets. 4 weeks later I recieved the new brackets. They were built wrong still but I was able to adjust my simlab p1 to make it work. After installing the new bracket I noticed my left motor was acting very lazy. After hours of testing on my end I figured out it was broken. Sent them an email. After a week of back and fourth enails of graphs etc....they said it was a 30 dollar controller unit in the box. They also suggested I buy one myself and apply thermal paste because it will be much faster then then shipping it. Again with my own money. I disagreed with this finding because I was sure it was the motor. I swapped plugs and put the bad motor on the good controller... I was right. Motor is bad. It's been another week emailing them more charts and back and fourth with no solutuon as of yet. Only reason I haven't posted on forums is because I'm afraid they might not honor the warranty. There is even more then this, just wanted to give a quick overview.
@@jonberg469 I guess I'll hold off a purchase for now then, thanks for letting me know.
@@joshuabenson2568 there are lots of people with good experiences it seems. I'll most likely buy a simxperience 2dof kit too add to my cockpit. I think a lot of people that are happy are not hardcore sim racers or dont know what else is out there.
Can i ask where you got those beautiful mounting brackets?....Those would help my situation a lot***...THANKS!
Great review Barry as always...!!! 👌 However, I'm curious as to the unboxed dimensions of the unit and if it's possible to slide this unit into the rectangular spacing that's normally available under the seat of a "SIM-LAB P1" chassis...??? 🤔 Will it clear the four walls of that area? Thanks 👌🤔
Yes it will fit inside. It is too wide with the side mounts. You will need to fabricate some kind of a mount because it is a bit narrow without the side mounts. A regular corner bracket like the ones I used in this installation are too short. You could use some washers to space them out from the V3's chassis. I was thinking about mounting some 1/4" plate aluminum plate underneath the side 40/160 profiles with 2" protruding towards the inside of the chassis. Then use corner brackets to mount to that. This would sit the entire unit low enough that your seat height would be very similar to the regular seat rails that come in the P1 kit. Or use some angle aluminum along the inside channels of the 40/160 profile and adjust the height that way. Many ways to go about it.
Hi Barry love the channel mate, I'm looking at getting one of these, would it be something that you would use all the time when sim racing ? Thanks from Australia
Mine is coming today. Yay!!!
Mine too!
@@milesonewheelwinter Mine is broken now. Only 8 months old
Great review. Currently I have a problem, I updated the manager and the sensation of the gear change inverted me, to the point that I returned to the previous version of manager... do you know where that part of the gears is configured? Regards!
Hi Barry... Quick question... Could I mount this to a GT Omega Art rig??
Thanks and keep up your wonderful work!
Great review as always Mr Rowland wheres the sim xperience rig is it out of shot or dismantled for your reviews
I sold the Stage 4 rig last December.
Thank you for the review. Not much information on this product out there.
Hey Barry, could you review the 3 DOF system from dofreality? It lookes like a pretty good piece of kit but I'd like to see your thoughts on how it handles your OSW and HPPs
This. Barry your videos are my go to for expert sim racing hardware reviews, would love to have your take on the H3 DOF Reality setup as you've had experience with a DBox and the NLR seat mover.
late to the party sorry about that and here because i got this platform from a friend who upgraded to the dof p3 and with vr its fantastic but lacks a few features like vibration, he says for the price you pay when you have to pay import duties and the vat its not really worth it, for the full dofreality p3 podium it was close to £6.5k after all taxes and thats some serious cash
Barry great job on reviewing this unit! I was wondering if I need to purchase the same seat brackets you’re using in this video or any other seat brackets would do the job. I forgot to mention that I own the same sparco seat you have. Thanks in advance!
I can't say for anything other than the Sparco brackets. Sparco does make a cheaper steel side bracket that has the exact same hole pattern on the bottom flange. So they should work to. I did have to fiddle with the bolts to get them all in. Just leave them all loose as you put them in and you should be able to make it work.
Sim Racing Garage Thanks a lot very informative!
Great review as always Barry. Notice you running an AF V2 on your second rig - would be great if you could share your settings in Assetto and PC2 as I’d love to try your setups. Can you share via owners club or screen shot your Simxperience and Assetto controller setup (INC in car ffb setting ). Thanks in advance and keep up the excellent and informative content 👍🏼
Barry what model are those bowed out side rail Sparco mounts? I may be getting one of these and I’d need to mount my existing seat to it. Thanks
Sparco 004903. I got them used for a good deal. New they are rather expensive. I also have a set of the Sparco 4902. They are half the price and work just as well.
Hi Barry, love the films, thanks so much for all the great reviews, I’m working my way through them. I’m new to Sim racing and would be interested to know what PC specs you’d recommend to run Project Cars, Assetto Corsa etc and what might be a good starting rig for a passionate car fan who wants to get in to Sim racing. Thanks.
Get the best PC you can get with the latest graphics card and get SSD Drives. Racing games don’t need a lot of power u just need it when racing online. Also, get good upload speed just in case u want to host a race.
Great review Barry. I wish this was up a few months ago... I've made sone regretful decisions lately.... is this better then the sim experience seat mover? I can add one of those to my rig for about $2000
I was debating on buying it for X-Plane 11, now I think if I can afford it in the future, I'm in.
love your vids Barry. Question on mounting the seat. I have the stock NLR seat but this thing is not worth the money i paid for. You mention in the video that you have to fiddle with this sparco evo to mount it. Did it give you any trouble? Ive read many forums that the base doesn't accommodate seats very well .
25:52 I used some washers as spacers to push the seat brackets out enough to get the holes to line up. I really don't like this version of the Sparco brackets, as they have a strange curve to them. I am about to buy some new ones where the bottom mounting flange is more perpendicular to the side of the bracket. Should make it a bit easier to mount.
Brilliant review barry !!
Another awesome review Barry 👌
Great setup, I was curious to know about race room with the direct drive and your settings if possible. I have been having a hard with osw to get it dialed in with it. I know you have a leo bodnar wheel but I was just curious to try them out. Thank you
I cant wait to get this probably will take me 2 years to save up for it, can not wait.
This guy is the Bob Ross of Sim Racing
Great review Barry. This is certainly on my short list for 2019. Seem like it should drop into my P1 without issue. Curious of the make and size triple monitors you are using for this demo? Thanks again for the thorough review. Tony.
Here are my monitors: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017EVR2VM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Sim Racing Garage Thank Barry. You find the 27 inch sufficient? I keep bouncing between 27 and 32. I’m having some difficulty committing to one or the other for my final build.
I tried 32's a while back. 27" is the sweet spot for me. But everyone is different.
I really enjoy the v3 with racing sims and flight sims 😁
Great review Barry. Can I ask what fittings you used to fit the NLR MP V3 onto the GT1-Evo and if any adjustments had to be made to get it to fit? I have the same rig, and after watching your review I want one!
On another note, with a regular racing seat rather than a bucket, should I be worried about falling out? :)
Start here: 19:46 Only other thing I did was add 2 washers between the corner brackets and the side of the V3's chassis where the bolt holes are. This to space the bracket out about 4mm for better fitment to the profile grooves.
@@simracinggarage3026 Amazing, thank you. Looks super simple compared to some fittings I've seen on other rigs.
Hi Barry, great review. Would it not be an option to combine this NLR simulator with your dBox simulator? Than muscle tension can be created by this one and all the car effects can be created by the dBox. Best of 2 worlds or am I wrong?
I do intend to try it when I get the chance. Just real busy right now. There may be a sync issue, as you would be combining to different types of actuators systems. And syncing the two software programs could be tricky. I ran into this a bit when combining the GS-4 seat with the Stage 4 rig from SimXperience. It worked fine, but I could feel a bit of lag between the speed of the SCN''s and the servo motors on the GS-4. Even when being driven by the same software.
You are the benchmark Barry !
Great review!
One question, what wheel button plate are you using?
It's the Cube Controls GT Wheel from Spenard Simulation. spenardsimulation.com/home/shop/cube-controls-gt-wheel/
Do you think lap times would go up with a setup like this or is it more just for the sensation? Just looking for your opinion, I'm sure it depends on the user. Cool video.
Probably not with it set to higher force levels. But, with it turned down to "less is more" type settings it does give you more information to react to than with just a DD wheel alone. So, it could help you to be faster. Really depends on the driver I think.
Hey barry what do you think you would prefer? This or the stage 1 simxperiance actuators?
Great review sir
Now fanatec v3 please...LOL
+comparison with csl pedal too!
Barry did you measure the dampening spring rates (or could you if you still have it?), I'm looking at a DOF Reality M2 as I can't afford one of these and adding springs I think is a must to remove the obvious play from the lash.
Great review as always
Any video of the V3 in a flight simulator coming up? Hopefully in DCS perhaps? 👌🏻
I want to do some flight sim stuff. And DCS is my favorite Sim. Finding the time is the problem. I currentlly have a 5 week backlog of Sim Raicng hardware to review. Maybe I will run out of things to review for Sim Racing and focus on Flight sim hardware for a while. Sim Flying Garage???
Sounds Awesome to me 😊😁👍🏻@@simracinggarage3026
@@simracinggarage3026 I wanna see a 360 degree flight simulator!!!!!! It would be even more interesting if there was a roller coaster that integrated with it.
You should store that blinkerfluid somewhere.. If you tip it it would be mayhem in your garage
How is VR using this system? I run 95% of my races in VR now. I find it hard to go back to the Monitor due to my situational awareness being killed.
the only reason i'm getting one is for VR
Now this is what you call "in-depth".
Pausing right at the start of the video.... I could only imagine how little sun I'd see if that thing sat in my gaming room...
You're like the Bob Ross of sim racing
HA! I was about to say the same thing! Great review.
Is it weird to have to seat move independent of the pedals and wheel?
It’s there a review about Simagic wheel coming? I saw you using it in previous video.
It is still in the early stages of development. It was sent to me for testing and feedback. I have already sent it back.
I know the V3 has a 2 year warranty. But how long do you think the unit will hold up with daily use of an hour or two per day?
How big the input lag is? Is it truly an instant feeling it provides, or it's rather with an annoying delay? It's important for me, since if it's immediate, then it could be useful for improving my racing pace. If it has more than 0.3 sec lag, then in my opinion it's useless. Thanks for the info!
You need to try one to make sure it is what you are looking for. What I, or someone else thinks is acceptable may not be for you.
gtrsimulator now has a full motion rig on their website , could you do a review on it ? I think it might be a good comparison to the next level racing v3 motion platform at that price level .
do u have a link to the bracket pls ? :)
CAN I USE THE NEXT LEVEL MOTION PLATFORME ON THE
TR8020 Black TR160 160mm x 40mm Aluminium Cockpit with Wheel Deck and GT Style Seat
BAARRRRRYYYYYYY !!! ......
Thanks Barry!
Is there also a sense of driving uphill and downhill on the track with this motion system?
Does this vibrate when you start the car's engine like the DBox G3 and G5 does?
The wheel shoud be coupled to the platform so it's not changing the distance between the seat and the wheel as it moves. That's really immersion breaking, imo.
New life goal.. buy one of these things!
Will this platform only work with games that support it? Or can it work for say old arcade racers like Daytona USA?
great vid!!
Hey Barry, how does it compare to your Dbox in your opinion ? Also what size monitors do you use ? Thanks
They are two different types of movement. I prefer the Dbox, as the whole chassis moves, instead of just the seat. That' not to say a seat mover is not a good solution, it is. Just like it better when my wheel, pedals and peripherals move together as they would in a real life. 27" monitors.
@@simracinggarage3026 recommended starter product?
Hi Barry, can you tell us how to set up VR Headway? I have no idea how to find the center point and all that stuff. Thanks.
Hi Barry!! I’m in a bit of a dilemma here . I have the Next Level Racing V3 platform mounted on a Simlab p1 chassis and I’m in the middle of building the sfx-100. I’m contemplating wether I should keep the v3 and combine with sfx-100 or return it and get the gs-5 sear from sim experience, or just have the sfx-100 by itself. ( If anyone has any experience with the combination of both, please share. I appreciate your help).
Love all your videos by the way
Thanks In advance!
Hi Barry. I just purchased the NLR Motion Simulator. It is
installed in a NLR GTultimate v2 cockpit. When I lean back or push on my brake pedal the Motion Simulator rocks back. It’s definitely in
the motion unit itself not the seat. Is that normal?
Could I theoretically attach this thing to a setup where the wheel and pedals are on it as well so I could have everything moving. Seeing the wheel be stationary while you are moving must be an immersion breaker.
Did you try this?
Someone did, its on reddit somewhere.
Would it be possible to build a frame that connects to the seat and the pedals and wheel? I would much prefer everything to move at the same time and It doesn't seem like it would add much extra weight and the system seems pretty robust. I am really thinking of buying one but I am planning on doing that and hope it works. Thanks for any feedback and good video.
Barry do me a favor, please tell me how to hook this thing up to my computer? The power cable is on the bottom rights front side and I'm assuming that bizarre looking cable which ironically did not come with my kid goes on the other side? I thought it was just a simple USB cable? You didn't show that part where you hook the thing up I watched the whole video and you don't even show how you hook the physical wires up I know I'm maybe not a brightest bulb but please answer and help me out...
I'm about 250lbs @ 5'11 do you think it'll have problems holding that weight? will it loose force feed back strength
after 2 hours of playing at my weight?
I have no way to test this. However, the stated weight limit is 285 pounds. So it looks like you can use it.