As somebody once wrote in the accident report to his insurace: "I am aware that there should always be a space of two car lengths between me and the next vehicle. But if you were to actually practice this, you would find that that space will quickly be occupied by two more cars!"
I do that anyway. I have no problem match the speed of the vehicle in front of me, but I do like a healthy following distance. People act as if me doing 50 behind a vehicle going 50 with more than 3 feet between us is me doing 20, so they zip around as if they saved a significant amount of time. I'm not going to let people intimidate me into tailgating
hence why you have enough distance for when traffic isn't too bad that people starts attempting to enter your lane. and as close as needed to signal other drivers that you don't fuck around so don't even try in heavier traffic. unless today's a good day or there's a merge or other equally reasonable situations.
Ah trains, when I want the modern convenience of being dropped off 7 miles from my doorstep. Also, why pave a road in a month when you could lay down train tracks in 3 years over the same patch of space. (Unless you're China and you have no qualms in bulldozing ancient temples and 500 old villages and displacing 200,000 people)
It also would require we all follow each other at the same distance we stay at stoplights, but the thing is that most people don't drive that closely, so there is going to need to be some delay. Accelerating at the same time doesn't work. But one thing that can be done is when possible slow down earlier so that you can keep moving by the time you make it to the car that's stopped in front of you. There is no value in zooming up to a red light when you're all going to be in the same place. It's not likely you can do it at stoplights. It's more effective on freeways, but the principle's the same.
My friend tailgates because he says people drive too slow. I showed him this video and he said he's already seen it. Then he continued tailgating within the same hour.
I know - to accelerate cars at the same time - we can just connect all of them into a chain - then it does not matter, which car is accelerating now - it accelerates the whole chain of cars. To improve stability and reduce unnecessary incidents by drivers - we can remove turning front wheels with rigid ones and put all the wheels on some kind of guided tracks, so they would follow the path. Then we can optimize by making individuals cars bigger to fit more people and decrease an amount of links in the chain. I have revolutionised traffic for you, you're welcome!
What if- and here me out here- we also had dedicated areas to get on and off these, and what if, and this going to get a little crazy here, had long cars which could pick various denizens up off the street and move them around a city, and maybe even had some at the dedicated areas of the chain-cars, to help people move around in a city after arriving at said city?
Now, make sure that train runs on my exact schedule, going to my exact destinations in the same time as my car, then you'll actually entice me to ride it. If your train can't match the convenience and flexibility of my car, I'm not getting on. And you can multiply this times the millions of residents not living within 200m of a train station.
Why did the chicken cross the road? It wanted to exploit infrastructural inefficiency and instability to create a long-lasting transportation slowdown.
Little did you all know that chicken was a spy for the Russian mafia that wanted to stop traffic to stop the general from getting there early so he could destroy the us military from the inside
How do you choose the distance you're followed by? That sounds like nonsense to me, you can only elect to follow a 2s rule when driving at speed to maintain a safe distance in front of you.
The solution to traffic is to give people viable alternives to driving. That means a well design public transport network and plenty of bicycle/pedastrian only areas. Exactly like the Netherlands does it.
That won’t work in the United States. People around the world underestimate how large the United States really is. The distance from Paris to Moscow is 2840km. New York to LA is around 4500km.
@@PokeTube of course if you're going from Paris to LA you'll need a car, theyre fine for long distances. But if you want go somewhere a few minutes away- you also need a car. You need a car just to get around the city. It's horrendous.
@@phoneticalballsack no, the issue is that cars are terribly inefficient when it comes to space. You dont need self driving cars to fix road congestion, you need neighborhoods you can walk/cycle through and loads of trains/busses. Less traffic, less noise, better for the climate and for your health (and cheaper for communities, suburbs eat tons of money for road maintenance)!
Most times I enjoy CGP grey videos. This one, however, applies logical reasoning to a world that would ostensibly outlaw pedestrians for it to function.
Its not the guy switching lanes fault, its the miles of cars that don't leave space in front of them to let anyone get off the highway. You can't control who rides your bumper, you can leave space for people to exit without causing slowing.
@@carrieullrich5059 I disagree. They are as much at fault as the people being too close. If you want to get off the highway you should move to the correct lane in an appropriate amount of time so you don't have to cut someone up to get off. You should never have to bring cars around you to a stop or slow down when you're coming off at a junction. If you are then you need to modify your driving and learn to look ahead into what you need to do to get to your destination.
I used to watch the highway from my buddies apartment. One person slams their breaks and you could watch it ripple down the highway for 5 minutes. Very cool to see
@@hiragasaito9055 suffering or the behavior of fellow hoomans just like me behind the controls of a 2k+ lb hunk of metal flying down a highly populated path at 35-90mph. If every car had an aerial view driving would be much more efficient.
I have a hard time imagining Americans getting rid of their cars. They have a much stronger sense of society compared to their community. So self-driving card are the only real solution for americans
@@a-e3654 the only reason why Americans don't use transit is because there's lack of it in the cities and also the cities are built wrong. Because of such a low density it's hard to build transit that will serve a lot of people and be faster than driving
Okay. But now these people come to your work route everyday no matter what... This increases the traffic severely and also people who came from other countries, states increase homelessness and unemployment
And then when you try fighting for that room by scooching up just a little bit is when the front jacks on the breaks. Thanks chicago. Or when you make room for them and they have the audacity to jack on the breaks. No reason. Just to do it
Yeah that’s what really causes problems for me. I give enough room in front of me so that I’m comfortable, only for the guy next to me to pull in front of me, and if I make more room the same thing happens
3:41 this reminds me of something: All of these people accelarate at the same time, its almost like you could couple the cars together with metal and nothing would change. And if you do that, its probably more efficient to just put a single big engine instead of having 52 small ones. Actually if we implement that, we might as well make the cars longer and spacier so more people can fit, and allow multiple household in a single car. And since the freedom of going anywhere specific is gone because the cars arent independent anymore, lets just put the whole thing on tracks, since rubber wheels are horribly inefficient anyway. Oh wait, thats just a train, my bad
You already said yourself at the end of that paragraph that coupling the cars together prevents any freedom of movement whatsoever.... which is the whole point of cars.. that is a humongous problem, and so why they aren't coupled together with metal, and so why they need separate engines.... Do you see where I am going with this....
I love how from 5 years ago the comments have gone from being about monkey drivers and self driving cars, to just give us trains. I'm glad people are catching on to the real solution to traffic.
There are also published more and more videos about car-centrism problems, so I think it’s at least the part of reason comments are switching. 7 years ago I also thought that it is very strong idea of Grey’s video.
I'd like self-driving trains tbh, though I'd like everyone to have their own private albeit smaller segments. Oh and let's separate the segments from each other cause people tend to have different destinations. While we're at it, let's replace the tracks with a flat surface and the wheels with say a soft compound, maybe rubber for the grip.
@@wenkoy and now you've accelerated climate change, the obesity epidemic and made it impossible for anyone who wants to walk to cross the tracks. Congratulations
3:50 In CGP Grey's future I guess pedestrians don't exist. Also it takes the same amount of distance to come to a stop no matter how fast you are going. The main reason cars spread out after piling up at a traffic light is you need to allow more distance between you and the car in front of you the faster you are going because it takes more distance to stop in case there is an emergency. This doesn't change with robocars.
No, the increasing distance between cars with increasing speed is to allow for reaction time, because at higher speeds you cover more distance quickly, so will need a greater distance between the car in front to react if they suddenly slow down. Self driving cars don't have reaction times. Instead they can communicate with each other and all slow down at the same instant negating the need for a large gap between vehicles, sort of like a train but without the links.... ....oh gee I just thought of the simple solution to traffic!
@@JiminyClarkson no. Thinking distance (the distance covered in the time from seeing an obstacle to reacting to it) is directly proportional to velocity (s=vt), but braking distance (the distance covered in the time between the brakes being pressed and the car stopping) is proportional to the square of velocity, as kinetic energy is transformed into thermal energy via the brakes (E=0.5mv^2). This means that if you double velocity, you double thinking distance, but quadruple braking distance. While a self-driving car will reduce thinking distance massively, it can’t alter braking distance, which is the main reason behind the gap between cars
@@zetadroid britain has this problem, so to allow citizens to walk from one end of the street to the other some places employ underpasses, lit by LED lights and are rife for midnight ambushes, graffiti and basically crime. If you do an overpass, you have to ensure that every bridge can act as a drawbridge for double-deckers or is just tall enough for cars and trucks to pass under. So, either I have to walk through the crack ambush den, or I have to walk extra because grey thinks cars need to go zoomies 24/7. Would I rather walk extra than be attacked at night? Yes. Would I rather neither? *YES.*
I used to do public transportation in the US until it got too dirty and dangerous. Driving is dangerous but at least I won't get shanked or sexually harassed in my car
Or... public transportation? Anyone? No? Just me? Ok... As much as I love the idea of self-driving cars communicating with each other more effectively (and politely) than human ever can, public train, metro, bus for urban area, high speed bullet train for inter-state can be far more efficient. Just look at Japan!
@@maestrulgamer9695 a plane IS a public transportation. Instead of driving thousands of miles inter-state, people can just hop on a plane, but no, they prefer their individualism clogging up the highways
I wonder if theres this neat invention that goes on rails, carries hundreds at a time, is fast, is efficient, doesnt polute, etc. And i wonder if its called the electric train
"doesn't pollute" might I suggest a small book, 150 pages, Economics in One Lesson, by Henry Hazlitt. I like trains too, where they're able to be used effectively, but euros and socialists for some reason think they are the answer to everything. they're not, stop with the smug condescension as though you invariably know better the ways others aught to have their lives ordered for them; it's grating to see this everywhere.
@@johncounts2182 America relies on cars because extreme zoning restricts single family homes from everywhere else. If houses were integrated with some shops, bike lanes were added (separate, not painted on the side of the road), and public transport had priority over cars because it holds more people, then traffic would be fixed. Less cars = less traffic, that's the only option, and it's proven. Look at the Netherlands for example. Everyone has a better experience, including cars, as there is less traffic.
Eight years on, as self-driving cars start becoming reality, the drawbacks come into focus. Not Just Bikes just posted "How Self-Driving Cars will Destroy Cities".
Don't know about you guys, but when staying in the middle maintaining a "safe distance" with the other cars as mentioned in 3:04, another car comes and occupies the "safe distance".
But what he was saying is that every single person did it then that wouldn't happen. Which is the reason why it won't work. The world will always have dickheads.
I think it depends on where you're driving. In LA, maintaining a safe distance is impossible, because a steady stream of cars will fill the gap. In much of the American widest, the opposite is true.
pedestrian bridges are already used all around the word much safer and doesn't require stopping cars to let people cross, we might be able to pull it off
I love how forcing everyone to buy a new smart car that will require a subscription to pay for constant software updates, will track and store your every location, is considered a solution that maintains your freedom more than providing the infrastructure required to walk or bike to a train that can get you close enough to walk or bike to your destination. 🤦♂️
Masking a corporate for profit industry (automobiles) as the emobident of freedom to go where ever and whenever is misleading you thinking what you need NEGATIVE FREEDOM , ie from something. When really it's POSITIVE FREEDOM, ie freedom for something, is what give. So if walkable cities, protected network of bike infrasture, and great public transit existed alongside car infrastructure then you free choose how to move about instead of making car infrastructure at the expense other modes of transport. Also some car drivers are claiming a WAR ON CARS when implementing narrow streets, bike and bus lanes when it really is a WAR ON PEOPLE (WALKING, BIKING, AND TRANSIT) when we are asking for modes to provided instead of subsided auto infrastructure
Funny how the example with self-driving cars at intersections completely ignores crosswalks and pedestrians. traffic lights aren't just for organizing car traffic, they're also needed to let people cross the road, which require cars to stop, self-driving or not. self-driving cars won't solve traffic in a city because unlike subways, they are still subject to bottlenecks like freeway exits, and stops like crosswalks. i hope people realize this. rail is still the most efficient form of urban transportation.
You're not getting the point of the video -- the number of self-driving cars will simply increase until the amount required to become self-aware and kill all humans. There was a great documentary back in the mid-80's that covered the science behind this. It almost doesn't need to be said, but obviously, in absence of people engineering them for food supply, chickens would simlly redevelop long range flight and sail gracefully over the unused crosswalks.
@@alecxander9573 ever thought about if it's feasible to put 4 pedestrian bridges at every single intersection in a city? ever heard of wheelchair accessibility? have you ever actually been to a real city?
I used to agree with this a long time ago. But now I have to disagree. Make cities for humans, not cars. Give pedestrians walkability and some public transportations. It might be too late but if it's possible, make sure homes and commercials are close to each other so people can just walk.
I want to be able to ride my bike for short errends. Get out ENJOY the process of going. For longer hops public transit. Look at the superblocks of madrid, or tokyo's train system.
That is not a contradiction at all. You can have cities for humans, streets for self-driving cars, bike lanes for bikes, and sidewalks for humans as before. In fact, removing human-driven cars from the equation would probably lead to more efficient roads, so that less space is required for roads and more space can be attributed to sidewalks, plazas and so on.
@@Fearabbit but you have to consider that cars take a lot of space anyway already just because of their size, so the city can’t be compact, they need garages that are incompatible with townhouses, giant parking lots in front of stores, so they can’t be woven into the urban fabric but have to be placed into the suburbs, and even by making the most compact car ever, they still can’t fit into the narrow walkable city streets but they would need wide roads even in city centers
@@willy4170 remove cars entirely, is what you're saying? That's an interesting idea altogether. But I have to ask, what about long distance transportation? Without cars, everyone would have to move close to where they work. It will be much harder to go to a place that is around 100 miles away, and when you're trying to move to a new house, how do you move all those stuff? Do you carry all of them and walk all the way to your new house? What about ambulances? What if someone on a street passed out with a chronic disease and has to go to a hospital, do you carry them there? Cars are fairly essential for a city. Removing them may cause more problems than it solves. I'd rather have a city with cars and full of traffic and parking lots and garages and wide incompatible dangerous roads, than a city with no cars at all. That's my choice.
When I saw this 6 years ago I was like "yeah! great idea! XD" Then I lived in places with public transit, regional rail, and subways now I'm like "NO, BAD IDEA :("
"Wishing upon a star that people are better than they are is a terrible solution every time" -CGP Grey One of the most profound pieces of wisdom on UA-cam
Lily people naturally make mistakes. Improving the system is way more reliable than requiring or expecting people to do a better job. You can study in how modern safety system of flight companies is established to understand it better.
The best organizations work with what they have, because humans are imperfect, trying to change them is not the way to go. Anyone can think of a silly traffic solution theory, but the one who can make the best out of the tools he has and actually make it work is the real genius.
Not that its always bad drivers, sometimes its bad road planning for a while I had to travel a route which was almost all freeway but required a short (about 1-2km I think but roads have been rebuilt since then so there's no map to check) journey along what had been the old main road for the area to get from one freeway to another and you entered on the left and had to exit on the right (with 2 sets of traffic lights in between) crossing 3 lanes. There was no way to do it except to push in (which is why the roads have now been changed).
to be fair, if u live in a dense enough area and drive in it enough, u probably have without knowing. no one is a perfect driver, and though it’s ur job as a driver to minimize how often u cause traffic jams, ur gonna mess up at some point. it’s human nature to make mistakes.
@@liquidmagma I'm sorry that you aren't capable of understanding my comment correctly. My take isn't genius at all, if anything it should be common sense but this video shows the opposite by displaying a solution in which cars still are the primary way of commuting.
Transportation experts would tell you that you missed the fundamental challenge of traffic; there's too many damn cars. The solution presented optimizes traffic flow, but this gained efficiency will simply be filled by additional cars via a phenomenom called induced demand.This is the same thing we observe when a highway expands to additional lanes and immediately becomes congested. The reality is that as long as there is room on the roads, it will attracts and generate more trips. The efficiency solution here still has a hard cap caused by road geometry and will eventually become gridlock as well.
Maybe true in larger cities, but I live in a metro of 1 million people. There was a traffic jam nearly every day on one of the major interstates, south and northbound during rush hours. Recently, one lane was added in both directions (from 3 to 4) and now I rarely see an accident or jam during the same commute, so there is a benefit in some communities by adding an additional lane.
I feel like this is the human fallacy of noticing patterns that don't exist. Your assuming a perfectly opulent society where the amount of cars on the road is dependant on the space required for them. And that's a 5 year old's take.
Do you truly believe that people go out driving during rush hour for no reason? Traffic certainly discourages travel, but that's not too say that lack of traffic encourages travel. I mean, the roadways are empty at 3AM, but I have nowhere to go, and no reason to go there. The vast majority of travel is because they're is an underlying reason to travel. Yes, opening an extra lane on the highway will often result in more cars taking the highway, BUT they are now taking the highway instead of the side streets and back roads. The total capacity of travel between A and B is still increased.
Yep. Leave a gap, someone cuts in, leave a gap again, someone else cuts in... It's almost like you're moving backwards after 10 cars pull that nonsense.
And even on one lane roads: you position yourself in the middle, then the one in the back comes closer, so you accelerate to be in the middle, it repeats, and hey, you’re now tailgating.
Except unlike actual trains, the self-driving cars can act independently, taking everyone to their actual homes, instead of stopping at a station 5+km away.
@@emmanuel1547 are you referring to, multi-floor, stack-pack housing, where no one can own their own place because we're all living in apartments? Not looking forward to a 'neighborhood' where everyone hears everyone else's toilet flushes and **ahem** "lively discussions".
@@frankbank8720 AI meanwhile is perfectly wrong. AI is perfect, but it's designer isn't. If you program an AI to drive forward and not collide with cars, but there's a person in front of it, it will carry out it's program perfectly. If a wheel falls off, it will keep driving, even if that later results in it sharply turning left the next time it slows down at a traffic crossing. AI is perfection made by the imperfect.
@@happydemon3038 if you think at all of the possible situations that can occur and prepare the AI for all with programming, to make AI's inability to adapt unimportant, its perfection makes the performance maximum.
polite drivers also often cause traffic for example there is a T junction there is 1 car waiting at the bottom of the T and 20 cars traveling across the T but the the 3rd car traveling across the T feeling bad for that 1 car stops in the middle of the road to let that one car merge this causes undue traffic for the remaining 16 cars another phantom intersection 1 good doesn't undo 16 wrongs
It's something I've instinctually known since I first started to drive but my goal these days is to stop my annoyance. I can't make other people drive properly so, when I inevitably get caught by these slow fools at a traffic light, I take a breath and accept it because it will continue to happen but I have no control over it (only over my reactions).
Drive a motobike? Imean we could just make multiple public motorbike stations like bus stations that would constantly carry ppl to other side like boats.
I write 5 years from the future and I am so glad that the nirvana of self driving cars has enveloped us right on schedule and traffic has ceased to exist and the underfunding of public transport has had zero negative impacts because we have driverless cars.
I work near London and if there is a space big enough for a car, some cunt is going to squeeze his car in that gap no matter what. And then 5 minutes later I'm overtaking him and thinking, was all the aggressive driving to gain nothing even worth it?
@@milkysue5496 happens all the time in any medium to large city. Some people just have such large egos or whatever that they like to pretend they are racing the other cars in traffic. Thats my theory at least. It explains why some angry backwards cap dude will aggressively go around you at a red light just to get into the lane with one less car in it and then he gets mad when the light switches to green and the lane he switched into is slow, and then starts raging when 3 people don't allow him to cut them all off so he can merge back into the lane he has to be in.
Traffic= NOSEY people. Clearly one does not stop to help; therefore, just move and keep on driving. Too many busybodies. Again. Traffic is the result of NOSEY PEOPLE.
Self driving cars lead to less cars. Just because a car drives itself doesn't mean I will now buy three. In fact, I will most likely ditch the second car since now I can just call for it to pick me up, and when I am done, I can now send it to pick up any other family member. In fact, I don't even need to own one since I can just timeshare with a pool of people sharing the cost. Even if the car itself costs 100k, I could chip in along with 10 family members and have personal transportation ready to go.
@@cyberlord64 would you like your car to come with pre-ordered rubbish and horrible smells? i thought the point was personal comfort? and eaxctly how are 10 of you going to a 9-5 job at the same time in one car? uh oh, i forgot to buy the eggs, got to wait 2 hours to finish my cake.
everyone's talking about how Grey neglects to think of the invention known as trains but I am more interested in how Grey doesn't see how humans fit into a society like that... Like where in the ever loving heck to do pedestrians go? And do these citizens NEED a self driving car to get anywhere meaningful? I think Grey needs to remember that modern urban sprawl in cities like LA are TOXIC to ordinary citizens... the solution is things like higher density cities that are walkable! Delta roads with trams and lanes for bikes. You cant automise something like traffic as large populations that each own their small tank on the road are what it is causing traffic!
That’s basically it, drive like you have somewhere to be... the red light point is so real. I’m not sure what takes people so long to move their foot down. When I’m the first one at a light and it turns green I go and look back and the car behind me is like 6 car lengths back and just starting to go. Like it’s not hard, green = move ya shit.
I used to race karts back in the 70s. One of the biggest fields I raced in was at the National championships - around 60 karts in each heat, all lined up on a grid four abreast. When the flag dropped it was a given that everyone hit the throttle flat out. Mostly this worked just fine and within ten seconds everyone was safely underway. But when something went wrong, like a kart at the front stalling, all hell would let loose with smashed karts, injured drivers and a red flagged race. This is why road drivers don’t all set off together, although cooperating self driving cars could. When traffic levels reach a certain point the flow gets chaotic. I suspect this would still be the case even with self driving cars if they were only coordinating with near neighbours.
Self driving cars won't fix traffic. Providing viable, attractic alternatives to cars fixes traffic, as walking/cycling/public transit all have way better space efficiency.
@@wren_. The problem with all mass transport is that it doesn’t start and finish where you need it or at exactly the time you need. There has to be some other compelling reason to use it, planes being the obvious example.
@@Keykhosrau So unless you live right next to the bus stop or station how do you get there? We live in a normal sort of a house a couple of miles from the nearest station. Long walk, taxi ride, cycle… nothing quite as quick or convenient as climbing into the car in the drive. Traffic not much of a problem unless you live in the middle of a large city, particularly with WFH.
Some Dude I ALREADY APOLOGIZE FOR THIS INFORMATION OVERLOAD!! Well in austrian dialect(viennese dialect wich is you guessed it spoken in vienna) there is such a thing as: "wos für a longe schlongan"(mind you that this sentemce is grammatically incorrect) and its mostly said by grumpy old man who like to complain a lot. Its rare under younger people to hear this sentence(im one of the younger people but you hear it a lot (older people ya know there a lot i work at a supermarket)). Oh and it means something along the lines of: "OH MY GOD THIS LINE IS SO BIG WHAT THE FUCK IS(or was it depends) TAKING SO LONG!!"
The simple solution to solve traffic is *_to remove the human part of it_* edit: guys i said this as a joke why are you all conspiring down in the reply section
I hear you, but then again if we remove the humans from the equation then we wouldn't need all the cars. We'd still need goods vehicles though, trucks and vans etc.
@@cheesecakelasagna *after Infinity War:* Jesus Christ, what lunatic thinks it's a good idea to kill an entire half of the universe?! *later, stuck in traffic:* I mean...it's ONLY half
I think it is high time CGP acknowledged that he was on the wrong sides on this one. The future of cities is not disgusting avalanches of boxes choking up living space, it's obviously densified living space and public transit.
Same with the Philippines, I did not even know lanes existed until I saw a typical road picture, if I remember correctly XD mostly made up of intersections, not highways
You have just convinced me that self driving cars are a bad idea. It would just lead to more cars, not fewer, untill be get back to the old problem but worse.
@@leonpaelinck Neither of your statements are true for a multitude of reasons. It would lead to fewer cars that were not owned by individuals, but instead being used my several people while driving much more hours per day than your monkey car. Air pollution is also a non issue because self driving technology is complemented much better by electric drivetrains with their extremely predictable traits.
@@scottwhitman9868 That wasn't really the point though. The point is that the pollution production is eliminated from the cars themselves and instead it is reliant on the cleanliness of the electricity production itself. You eliminate one problem by handling it to one corner, then solve that problem. So as long as the electricity production itself is coming from renewable sources like Wind, solar, hydro, and when it eventually happens.. Fusion. then the entire supply chain of energy production and usage would be totally clean.
We're *all* idiots sometimes. I don't know a single person who can honestly say they've never been distracted or made some poor split-second decisions while driving.
There is also always this one jackass that presses his brakes constantly even though nothing at all is in front of him, forcing you behind him to have to press it with him because you don't know if he is really going to stop this time. Swears these fools are the most annoying things to see.
About to post something like this. There are always morons who are clueless at how traffic works thinking that they're some kind of l33t driver by doing stupid shits on the road.
idk... I often take evasive maneuvers to get around slow af drivers and easily reach 80+ mph in congested areas zooming past all of the idiots that don't know what tf the left lane is meant for.
A positive behavior YOU can employ now, is to actually give extra room to the vehicle in front of you. Driving slightly slower than traffic in order to create a gap to the car in front of you, and then driving at the speed of traffic means that you (and by extension everyone behind you) have several extra seconds to react to potential pre-jam behavior from the car in front, all while only inconveniencing people behind you of no more than a few additional seconds of travel time. This extra space can allow the beginnings of an actual jam to resolve themselves before cascading into a total traffic stoppage that propagates down the line. A few people doing this every fifty cars or so can significantly buffer against traffic ever stopping entirely.
Unfortunately, while your solution is reasonable, this would require people to practice the skill of "delayed gratification." Specifically, people would have to be willing to trade off a couple of seconds of faster travel up front for smoother sailing for the entire journey as a whole. And from experience, the practice of delaying instant gratification is something that a distressingly large number of people seem to struggle with immensely.
It does - pretty much anything can work if you take human control (or lack thereof) out of the equation. Safe and efficient roads? Check 99.99% efficiency in all practical aspects of society? Check Communist utopia? Check
An insurance company's best customer is one who pays their monthly premium without ever having to file a claim on damage or loss. The question is, would you still want auto insurance for a self driving car?
i doubt everyon single car would be self driving, and even if they were, then there are still options to allow human error, like if the human took controll. system clitches, or satelite malfunctions could cause even more chaos than normal crashes.
ItsMeStalin - Stalin TV I suspect it would be a case of "I, Robot", the officer getting penalized for taking control away from the AI. If a human driver took control and caused an accident, they would face prosecution.
i remember in kindergarten when my class lined up to walk somewhere i would think about how much quicker we could get out of the classroom if we all started moving at the same time
Except a train won't pick you up at your house when you want to go, then take you back (or anywhere else when you want to go). Let's not forget the trips that most people have to make just to get to/from the train.
It's funny how traffic "experts" know the pattern right before congestion happens yet still manage to get the big picture source wrong. How hard is it to realize that when too many people head in the same direction at the same time, obviously there is going to be a clump somewhere?
The problem with staying "in the middle" of two cars or staying 2 seconds apart from the car infront of you (learned this from my driving instructor) will just make it more likely that some driver will "take advantage" of this space and overtake you and place their car infront of you and the car that was infront of you and now you have to slow down because you're now not 2 seconds apart. It's a vicious circle.
an unfortunate consequence, but you're both still moving towards the same destination and if you do use the 2-second-rule, the brake check is considerably mitigated than if you decided to tailgate the car in front of you to prevent some asshole cutting in front of you suddenly
This is a driving culture problem IMO. Just based on my experiences living in 3 countries (Malaysia, Thailand, and the Philippines). Traffic far, far more predictable in Malaysia tend to stay in their lanes and move when necessary...most of the time. Also people generally only overtake in the inner lanes. But in Thailand, things get a bit more messy but still predictable. Overtaking is left or right, doesn't matter. But, you can still also just maintain your speed without needing to "defend" your position from the car in front of you. In the Philippines...Ohhhhh boy. People drive like they're participating in a race. Maybe there's a reward in the end, who knows? But it sure seem like it. Any gap left between you and the car in front will be exploited. No one stays in their lane. Overtaking every vehicle along the path. I asked a driver why does everyone overtake everyone, he said some cars are going slow so just overtake them. It'll be faster. There's an irony to this... the same distance takes up to 4 times longer in the Philippines than it does in Malaysia. Because traffic is so unpredictable, they're all driving slower. And because traffic is so predictable in Malaysia, people tend to overspeed and drive up to 80 or sometimes even a 100 kmh in the streets. The same type of streets, traffic in Philippines go from 40 - 60 kmh because of the mess. Had they just stay in their lanes and follow a rhythm, traffic would go faster because it's more predictable and no one has to "defend" their position. Just my thoughts.
I have been in many countries where the simple red/amber/green light is replaced by a countdown of how long it will remain at that stage. I never knew if this solved the distraction problem as drivers had a better idea of how long they needed to wait.
As somebody once wrote in the accident report to his insurace: "I am aware that there should always be a space of two car lengths between me and the next vehicle. But if you were to actually practice this, you would find that that space will quickly be occupied by two more cars!"
temporary visitor okay..
i hope insurance paid his claim
In the bay area if you have half a car's space in front of you someone will change lanes into that space expecting you to brake to let them in
I do that anyway. I have no problem match the speed of the vehicle in front of me, but I do like a healthy following distance. People act as if me doing 50 behind a vehicle going 50 with more than 3 feet between us is me doing 20, so they zip around as if they saved a significant amount of time. I'm not going to let people intimidate me into tailgating
hence why you have enough distance for when traffic isn't too bad that people starts attempting to enter your lane. and as close as needed to signal other drivers that you don't fuck around so don't even try in heavier traffic. unless today's a good day or there's a merge or other equally reasonable situations.
A system where all cars accelerate at once and there are no intersections, that just sounds like a train with extra steps.
Eek barba durkle, somebody's gonna get laid in college
Basically.
Or automated cars... they would communicate with each other... oh, ha! He just got to that
Ah trains, when I want the modern convenience of being dropped off 7 miles from my doorstep. Also, why pave a road in a month when you could lay down train tracks in 3 years over the same patch of space. (Unless you're China and you have no qualms in bulldozing ancient temples and 500 old villages and displacing 200,000 people)
It also would require we all follow each other at the same distance we stay at stoplights, but the thing is that most people don't drive that closely, so there is going to need to be some delay. Accelerating at the same time doesn't work. But one thing that can be done is when possible slow down earlier so that you can keep moving by the time you make it to the car that's stopped in front of you. There is no value in zooming up to a red light when you're all going to be in the same place. It's not likely you can do it at stoplights. It's more effective on freeways, but the principle's the same.
My friend tailgates because he says people drive too slow. I showed him this video and he said he's already seen it. Then he continued tailgating within the same hour.
imagine finding the ghost here,hi i like ur content and animations :D
ignorant friend you got there
That’s okay. He will get into an accident and be responsible for costs.
He's part of the problem
but sometimes you do need to tailgate a bit to make a dumbass realize he is going 35 in a 50 zone...
I know - to accelerate cars at the same time - we can just connect all of them into a chain - then it does not matter, which car is accelerating now - it accelerates the whole chain of cars. To improve stability and reduce unnecessary incidents by drivers - we can remove turning front wheels with rigid ones and put all the wheels on some kind of guided tracks, so they would follow the path. Then we can optimize by making individuals cars bigger to fit more people and decrease an amount of links in the chain.
I have revolutionised traffic for you, you're welcome!
We should also call it a "train", it's brilliant
This is brilliant I wish more people got the joke
Hahah
What if- and here me out here- we also had dedicated areas to get on and off these, and what if, and this going to get a little crazy here, had long cars which could pick various denizens up off the street and move them around a city, and maybe even had some at the dedicated areas of the chain-cars, to help people move around in a city after arriving at said city?
Now, make sure that train runs on my exact schedule, going to my exact destinations in the same time as my car, then you'll actually entice me to ride it. If your train can't match the convenience and flexibility of my car, I'm not getting on. And you can multiply this times the millions of residents not living within 200m of a train station.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
It wanted to exploit infrastructural inefficiency and instability to create a long-lasting transportation slowdown.
Little did you all know that chicken was a spy for the Russian mafia that wanted to stop traffic to stop the general from getting there early so he could destroy the us military from the inside
@@ryan-ci3fz u r the quiet kid i guess😂 (no offense intended)
@@roshanantony64 none taken xD
traffic sucks more depending on what kind of person you are
@MEH Nah, that would still cause a traffic snake anyways because people would slow down to look at the dead chicken.
"We can make traffic snakes less likely by changing the way we drive."
So it's hopeless then.
It's not our fault, it's all them chickens crossing the road without due cause.
It's hard enough to achieve simultaneous orgasm with my partner or imaginary partner let alone getting people to drive in perfect synchronicity.
SNAKES
society in a nutshell
Bro 1.2K likes and 4 comments??? (Not including mine)
it's actually taught in driving schools that you should respect a certain distance between the one behind & in front of you
except no one respects it
iRiZelion I learn all that when I had my permit driving my pops whip
*arrest them all*
Right? 2 second rule people
Most tailgaters don't see themselves do it. Until you show them a video from a different car
How do you choose the distance you're followed by? That sounds like nonsense to me, you can only elect to follow a 2s rule when driving at speed to maintain a safe distance in front of you.
The solution to traffic is to give people viable alternives to driving. That means a well design public transport network and plenty of bicycle/pedastrian only areas. Exactly like the Netherlands does it.
Exactly. It *actually* makes the road better for everybody, including drivers.
That won’t work in the United States. People around the world underestimate how large the United States really is. The distance from Paris to Moscow is 2840km. New York to LA is around 4500km.
Bikes and legs for close things, cars for far things. Very smart!
@@PokeTube of course if you're going from Paris to LA you'll need a car, theyre fine for long distances. But if you want go somewhere a few minutes away- you also need a car. You need a car just to get around the city. It's horrendous.
Dude, we're not talking about travelling between two cities but about travelling inside the city
Teach this in schools, now.
Well, CGP Grey is a teacher haha
Ideally kids in school today won't have to drive because self-driving cars will be widespread.
+gabelogan56 could just pull them out of the class
Or stop handing out driver licenses, so everyone is forced to get a self driving car.
But that would consist of actually learning something useful that will apply to your day to day life. we can't have that now can we?
I remember seeing this 5 years ago and thinking, “Yeah! This is it!” Then I moved out of the suburb to somewhere walkable with trains.
Exactly, same for me 🤣
JUST build self-driving cars
@@phoneticalballsack no, the issue is that cars are terribly inefficient when it comes to space. You dont need self driving cars to fix road congestion, you need neighborhoods you can walk/cycle through and loads of trains/busses. Less traffic, less noise, better for the climate and for your health (and cheaper for communities, suburbs eat tons of money for road maintenance)!
so true
i moved to a village where there are only about 20 other cars.
Imagine being late to a job interview because a cat crossed a road six hours ago
Welcome to Los Angeles
Butterfly effect
Don't have to
@@nakulvora333 Snowball effect, actually.
@@victuz not really
Most times I enjoy CGP grey videos. This one, however, applies logical reasoning to a world that would ostensibly outlaw pedestrians for it to function.
teacher: why are you late
me: a chicken crossed the road 4 hours ago
🚘
Teacher: what? How would u be late because of a chicken?
Me: *explains all the info i got from this video*
Someone should eat this damn chicken! >:(
This chicken should be punished instead of you
why did the chicken cross the road ?
Imagine being that one guy who switches lanes and causes 5 hours of traffic.
Its not the guy switching lanes fault, its the miles of cars that don't leave space in front of them to let anyone get off the highway.
You can't control who rides your bumper, you can leave space for people to exit without causing slowing.
People cut over into lanes to get on or off, if everyone's following too closely, everyone slows massively for entrance and exits.
@@carrieullrich5059 I disagree. They are as much at fault as the people being too close. If you want to get off the highway you should move to the correct lane in an appropriate amount of time so you don't have to cut someone up to get off. You should never have to bring cars around you to a stop or slow down when you're coming off at a junction. If you are then you need to modify your driving and learn to look ahead into what you need to do to get to your destination.
It already have a term: B fucking M cunter W. BMW muppets.
It's also the fault of the people who didn't react fast enough and slowly made the snake grow
I used to watch the highway from my buddies apartment. One person slams their breaks and you could watch it ripple down the highway for 5 minutes. Very cool to see
What the heck, you love to watch people suffering 😂
@@hiragasaito9055 suffering or the behavior of fellow hoomans just like me behind the controls of a 2k+ lb hunk of metal flying down a highly populated path at 35-90mph. If every car had an aerial view driving would be much more efficient.
@@Calupp Yeah, for real😆
😂
😂😂😂
it is hilarious how close this video gets to realizing that cars are the problem without realizing that cars are the problem
trains for the win!
I have a hard time imagining Americans getting rid of their cars. They have a much stronger sense of society compared to their community. So self-driving card are the only real solution for americans
Tbh you can solve any problem by just removing everything like this comment says.
public transit is gross
@@a-e3654 the only reason why Americans don't use transit is because there's lack of it in the cities and also the cities are built wrong. Because of such a low density it's hard to build transit that will serve a lot of people and be faster than driving
Hoping all 17 million people who watched this are the people i meet on my way every morning
Okay. But now these people come to your work route everyday no matter what... This increases the traffic severely and also people who came from other countries, states increase homelessness and unemployment
"They weren't."
Personally, I wouldn't want to meet 17 million people on my way to work
@@ravitejaknts Nice. You just kindly pointed it out instead of using the obnoxious "r/wooosh".
@@ravitejaknts Welp I wasnt serious lol
Me: *keeps distance with car behind and infront*
Car on the side:
*ITS FREE REAL ESTATE*
True it so fucked up
Very underrated!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥
And then when you try fighting for that room by scooching up just a little bit is when the front jacks on the breaks. Thanks chicago. Or when you make room for them and they have the audacity to jack on the breaks. No reason. Just to do it
Yeah that’s what really causes problems for me. I give enough room in front of me so that I’m comfortable, only for the guy next to me to pull in front of me, and if I make more room the same thing happens
Such behaviour simply isn't traced and punished enough.
3:41 this reminds me of something: All of these people accelarate at the same time, its almost like you could couple the cars together with metal and nothing would change. And if you do that, its probably more efficient to just put a single big engine instead of having 52 small ones. Actually if we implement that, we might as well make the cars longer and spacier so more people can fit, and allow multiple household in a single car. And since the freedom of going anywhere specific is gone because the cars arent independent anymore, lets just put the whole thing on tracks, since rubber wheels are horribly inefficient anyway. Oh wait, thats just a train, my bad
original comment
TRAIN IS THE BEST
I like trains!
wow you're so original.
You already said yourself at the end of that paragraph that coupling the cars together prevents any freedom of movement whatsoever.... which is the whole point of cars.. that is a humongous problem, and so why they aren't coupled together with metal, and so why they need separate engines.... Do you see where I am going with this....
I love how from 5 years ago the comments have gone from being about monkey drivers and self driving cars, to just give us trains. I'm glad people are catching on to the real solution to traffic.
Clueless. Nobody is giving up the freedom to travel anywhere at any time to ride on your magical trains.
There are also published more and more videos about car-centrism problems, so I think it’s at least the part of reason comments are switching.
7 years ago I also thought that it is very strong idea of Grey’s video.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To cause a phantom intersection.
Underated comment.
Somehow u made that joke original, good job
To go KFC
the chicken is evil
I thought it says "to get to the other side".
A few days ago, I would've completely agreed with the idea of self-driving cars. Now I'm just enjoying all these train memes
I'd like self-driving trains tbh, though I'd like everyone to have their own private albeit smaller segments. Oh and let's separate the segments from each other cause people tend to have different destinations. While we're at it, let's replace the tracks with a flat surface and the wheels with say a soft compound, maybe rubber for the grip.
@@wenkoy and now you've accelerated climate change, the obesity epidemic and made it impossible for anyone who wants to walk to cross the tracks. Congratulations
@@wenkoy Yeah, I love it when my city falls for the growth ponzi scheme over and over again. Never gets old.
@@Aditya_V_R electric cars ✨✨
@@lynxrbeam8732 Trains.
The simplest solution to traffic is easily seen in cities like Tokyo. It's called trains
A few problems with that btw....
New York shows you that subway traffic is a whole different convo…p.s Japan trains are packed
@@Alexmoral1307. not as many as with cars
But the problem is the chicken will be killed by the train 😑
They have dedicated workers that stuff people into the subway's because of how over crowded they are. It's disgusting.
3:50 In CGP Grey's future I guess pedestrians don't exist. Also it takes the same amount of distance to come to a stop no matter how fast you are going.
The main reason cars spread out after piling up at a traffic light is you need to allow more distance between you and the car in front of you the faster you are going because it takes more distance to stop in case there is an emergency. This doesn't change with robocars.
Also, in CGP Grey's future physics don't work anymore. How does AI allow you to turn 90 degrees at full speed without slowing down?
Now imagine this during winter with the road covered with snow and ice
No, the increasing distance between cars with increasing speed is to allow for reaction time, because at higher speeds you cover more distance quickly, so will need a greater distance between the car in front to react if they suddenly slow down. Self driving cars don't have reaction times. Instead they can communicate with each other and all slow down at the same instant negating the need for a large gap between vehicles, sort of like a train but without the links....
....oh gee I just thought of the simple solution to traffic!
@@JiminyClarkson no. Thinking distance (the distance covered in the time from seeing an obstacle to reacting to it) is directly proportional to velocity (s=vt), but braking distance (the distance covered in the time between the brakes being pressed and the car stopping) is proportional to the square of velocity, as kinetic energy is transformed into thermal energy via the brakes (E=0.5mv^2). This means that if you double velocity, you double thinking distance, but quadruple braking distance. While a self-driving car will reduce thinking distance massively, it can’t alter braking distance, which is the main reason behind the gap between cars
I assume that pedestrians and bike riders get purpose-built walkways and bikeways, as they should.
Apparently none of the 15 million people who've seen this live in my city.
here too
including me
But are you trying to be a better driver tho?
İstanbul
@@bruhmoment3505 pleas go learn to read first
Now I understand why humans started eating chickens.
To avoid traffic jam LOL
익명입니다 hahahaha now i get the point why McD and KFC everywhere 😅😅😅
Lol
Now i understand why my pp hard on morning
😂 😂
Glad to see so many people in the comments talking about the real and tangible solution to traffic, public transportation.
Imagine having to cross one of those "perfect" intersections
@@zetadroid I did not even think about that, that would be incredibly terrifying
@@zetadroid britain has this problem, so to allow citizens to walk from one end of the street to the other some places employ underpasses, lit by LED lights and are rife for midnight ambushes, graffiti and basically crime.
If you do an overpass, you have to ensure that every bridge can act as a drawbridge for double-deckers or is just tall enough for cars and trucks to pass under.
So, either I have to walk through the crack ambush den, or I have to walk extra because grey thinks cars need to go zoomies 24/7.
Would I rather walk extra than be attacked at night? Yes. Would I rather neither? *YES.*
I hoped Covid taught you why already - but no...
I used to do public transportation in the US until it got too dirty and dangerous. Driving is dangerous but at least I won't get shanked or sexually harassed in my car
4:05 I'm not sure how a pedestrian would cross that.
Pedestrians? What are those?
Bridge or tunnel. If it only needs to be wide enough for pedestrians, tunnels are pretty cheap solutions for this.
Me: keeping a gap in between the car in front.
Car on the left: oh look a free spot.
Me: :- |
Yeah happens every fucking time
This comment should be on top
Exactly!
I agree with you. We need back to 1700's
then you slow down to make a gap again, and boom you created a traffic
Or... public transportation? Anyone? No? Just me? Ok...
As much as I love the idea of self-driving cars communicating with each other more effectively (and politely) than human ever can, public train, metro, bus for urban area, high speed bullet train for inter-state can be far more efficient. Just look at Japan!
Plane travel industry:Hahaha,lobbying go brrrrr.
@@maestrulgamer9695 a plane IS a public transportation. Instead of driving thousands of miles inter-state, people can just hop on a plane, but no, they prefer their individualism clogging up the highways
You're from Adam something are you
@@gamermapper Including me :)
Nope, everyone agrees with you, this video is Grey's only slip up
I wonder if theres this neat invention that goes on rails, carries hundreds at a time, is fast, is efficient, doesnt polute, etc. And i wonder if its called the electric train
Yeah but the "disgusting humans" and whatnot
Yeah, now build railroad to every shop, factory and warehouse in existence
@@benjaminparent4115 man i forgot about walking, I always drive my car into shops and factories on a daily basis
"doesn't pollute"
might I suggest a small book, 150 pages, Economics in One Lesson, by Henry Hazlitt.
I like trains too, where they're able to be used effectively, but euros and socialists for some reason think they are the answer to everything. they're not, stop with the smug condescension as though you invariably know better the ways others aught to have their lives ordered for them; it's grating to see this everywhere.
@@johncounts2182 America relies on cars because extreme zoning restricts single family homes from everywhere else. If houses were integrated with some shops, bike lanes were added (separate, not painted on the side of the road), and public transport had priority over cars because it holds more people, then traffic would be fixed. Less cars = less traffic, that's the only option, and it's proven. Look at the Netherlands for example. Everyone has a better experience, including cars, as there is less traffic.
Eight years on, as self-driving cars start becoming reality, the drawbacks come into focus. Not Just Bikes just posted "How Self-Driving Cars will Destroy Cities".
Don't know about you guys, but when staying in the middle maintaining a "safe distance" with the other cars as mentioned in 3:04, another car comes and occupies the "safe distance".
I know what you're saying, and fuck those people.
But what he was saying is that every single person did it then that wouldn't happen. Which is the reason why it won't work. The world will always have dickheads.
Pratyush Pandey then you readjust
I think it depends on where you're driving.
In LA, maintaining a safe distance is impossible, because a steady stream of cars will fill the gap.
In much of the American widest, the opposite is true.
Literally the only thing causing traffic jam in Indonesia
"Why did the chicken cross the road?" "To cause a chain reaction"
For Starbucks coffee.
@Ayah Awad same.
Because you didn't fucking cook it
@@sheerajzakir did you predict a failed book of mine...
Also known as the butterfly effect
4:05 well that looks fun for pedestrians trying to cross the road
pedestrian bridges are already used all around the word much safer and doesn't require stopping cars to let people cross, we might be able to pull it off
Plus self driving cars have ways of detecting pedestrians, so technically they could just walk across... I think... don't quote me on that :D
@@michaeltaylor1866 It's going to take practice for pedestrians though. Imagine walking into a lane of ongoing traffic, terrifying
Would adding a few more sensors ensure that the cars detect a human crossing fairly early?
r/woooosh
I love how forcing everyone to buy a new smart car that will require a subscription to pay for constant software updates, will track and store your every location, is considered a solution that maintains your freedom more than providing the infrastructure required to walk or bike to a train that can get you close enough to walk or bike to your destination. 🤦♂️
Masking a corporate for profit industry (automobiles) as the emobident of freedom to go where ever and whenever is misleading you thinking what you need NEGATIVE FREEDOM , ie from something. When really it's POSITIVE FREEDOM, ie freedom for something, is what give. So if walkable cities, protected network of bike infrasture, and great public transit existed alongside car infrastructure then you free choose how to move about instead of making car infrastructure at the expense other modes of transport.
Also some car drivers are claiming a WAR ON CARS when implementing narrow streets, bike and bus lanes when it really is a WAR ON PEOPLE (WALKING, BIKING, AND TRANSIT) when we are asking for modes to provided instead of subsided auto infrastructure
Or just be a better driver
@@kingkazuma2239 0:37
This shows you exactly everything wrong with cars in a city.
This has nothing to do with driving skills.
@@kingkazuma2239 this is bait right
Funny how the example with self-driving cars at intersections completely ignores crosswalks and pedestrians. traffic lights aren't just for organizing car traffic, they're also needed to let people cross the road, which require cars to stop, self-driving or not. self-driving cars won't solve traffic in a city because unlike subways, they are still subject to bottlenecks like freeway exits, and stops like crosswalks. i hope people realize this. rail is still the most efficient form of urban transportation.
Key word "Urban".
You're not getting the point of the video -- the number of self-driving cars will simply increase until the amount required to become self-aware and kill all humans. There was a great documentary back in the mid-80's that covered the science behind this.
It almost doesn't need to be said, but obviously, in absence of people engineering them for food supply, chickens would simlly redevelop long range flight and sail gracefully over the unused crosswalks.
Just get rid of humans.
Ever heard of pedestrian bridge?
@@alecxander9573 ever thought about if it's feasible to put 4 pedestrian bridges at every single intersection in a city? ever heard of wheelchair accessibility? have you ever actually been to a real city?
I used to agree with this a long time ago. But now I have to disagree. Make cities for humans, not cars. Give pedestrians walkability and some public transportations.
It might be too late but if it's possible, make sure homes and commercials are close to each other so people can just walk.
I want to be able to ride my bike for short errends. Get out ENJOY the process of going. For longer hops public transit.
Look at the superblocks of madrid, or tokyo's train system.
That is not a contradiction at all. You can have cities for humans, streets for self-driving cars, bike lanes for bikes, and sidewalks for humans as before. In fact, removing human-driven cars from the equation would probably lead to more efficient roads, so that less space is required for roads and more space can be attributed to sidewalks, plazas and so on.
It's not too late. While urban planning and transportation sucks in North America, in East Asia and in Europe (including Eastern Europe too)
@@Fearabbit but you have to consider that cars take a lot of space anyway already just because of their size, so the city can’t be compact, they need garages that are incompatible with townhouses, giant parking lots in front of stores, so they can’t be woven into the urban fabric but have to be placed into the suburbs, and even by making the most compact car ever, they still can’t fit into the narrow walkable city streets but they would need wide roads even in city centers
@@willy4170 remove cars entirely, is what you're saying? That's an interesting idea altogether. But I have to ask, what about long distance transportation? Without cars, everyone would have to move close to where they work. It will be much harder to go to a place that is around 100 miles away, and when you're trying to move to a new house, how do you move all those stuff? Do you carry all of them and walk all the way to your new house? What about ambulances? What if someone on a street passed out with a chronic disease and has to go to a hospital, do you carry them there? Cars are fairly essential for a city. Removing them may cause more problems than it solves.
I'd rather have a city with cars and full of traffic and parking lots and garages and wide incompatible dangerous roads, than a city with no cars at all. That's my choice.
“Be productive, buy a helicopter”- Jeremy Clarkson
Speed and power
Air traffic: Hello?
@@lucyhuang6840 since air is 3d, traffic is going to be extremely less likely. But never zero.
Be rich
Get a monster truck and move over the vehicles without any damage
When I saw this 6 years ago I was like "yeah! great idea! XD" Then I lived in places with public transit, regional rail, and subways now I'm like "NO, BAD IDEA :("
Getting humans to change their behaviour??? Oh boy!!
You show this video here in India to try and improve driving, the first question you'll get is "what is a lane?". Bangalore traffic is nuts.
@@summushieremiasclarkson4700 lol ....come to Mumbai kid... u'll feel Bangalore traffic ain't that bad😂😂😂
@@joshuaalmeida3284 I lived in Sion for 4 years, trust me man, Bangalore is much worse now.
Woah youre the guy from the book i'm reaching
@@summushieremiasclarkson4700 Lanes ? People will ask "which is the road" while driving on footpaths
"Wishing upon a star that people are better than they are is a terrible solution every time"
-CGP Grey
One of the most profound pieces of wisdom on UA-cam
also perfectly explains the consistent failures of socialism
I don't get it tbh. Can someone explain?
ESN iPopulate wishing something will change won't change anything u have to actually do something
Lily people naturally make mistakes. Improving the system is way more reliable than requiring or expecting people to do a better job. You can study in how modern safety system of flight companies is established to understand it better.
The best organizations work with what they have, because humans are imperfect, trying to change them is not the way to go.
Anyone can think of a silly traffic solution theory, but the one who can make the best out of the tools he has and actually make it work is the real genius.
imagine being the person to cause hour long traffic by switching lanes too quickly
Why imagine when you can act? MWAHAHAHA
Not that its always bad drivers, sometimes its bad road planning for a while I had to travel a route which was almost all freeway but required a short (about 1-2km I think but roads have been rebuilt since then so there's no map to check) journey along what had been the old main road for the area to get from one freeway to another and you entered on the left and had to exit on the right (with 2 sets of traffic lights in between) crossing 3 lanes. There was no way to do it except to push in (which is why the roads have now been changed).
to be fair, if u live in a dense enough area and drive in it enough, u probably have without knowing. no one is a perfect driver, and though it’s ur job as a driver to minimize how often u cause traffic jams, ur gonna mess up at some point. it’s human nature to make mistakes.
That's called driving a BMW
Paris in the morning
It's mindblowing how people will come up with all kind of ways to "fix traffic", always failing to realize that cars are the real problem of traffic
So you're genius take on it is that car traffic is caused by cars. Wow.
@@liquidmagma I'm sorry that you aren't capable of understanding my comment correctly. My take isn't genius at all, if anything it should be common sense but this video shows the opposite by displaying a solution in which cars still are the primary way of commuting.
@@RedStormArtz No, you mistake your comment for being sensical. So my ability to understand it has nothing to do with it.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To create a traffic jam.
To be an A hole*
so the snake eats the cars instead
The chiken's revenge
JAMMMMMMM?
Maybe gasoline company ordered
Transportation experts would tell you that you missed the fundamental challenge of traffic; there's too many damn cars. The solution presented optimizes traffic flow, but this gained efficiency will simply be filled by additional cars via a phenomenom called induced demand.This is the same thing we observe when a highway expands to additional lanes and immediately becomes congested.
The reality is that as long as there is room on the roads, it will attracts and generate more trips. The efficiency solution here still has a hard cap caused by road geometry and will eventually become gridlock as well.
Maybe true in larger cities, but I live in a metro of 1 million people. There was a traffic jam nearly every day on one of the major interstates, south and northbound during rush hours. Recently, one lane was added in both directions (from 3 to 4) and now I rarely see an accident or jam during the same commute, so there is a benefit in some communities by adding an additional lane.
@@DC5Brandon Give it a year or so.
@@DC5Brandon "recently"
I feel like this is the human fallacy of noticing patterns that don't exist.
Your assuming a perfectly opulent society where the amount of cars on the road is dependant on the space required for them.
And that's a 5 year old's take.
Do you truly believe that people go out driving during rush hour for no reason?
Traffic certainly discourages travel, but that's not too say that lack of traffic encourages travel.
I mean, the roadways are empty at 3AM, but I have nowhere to go, and no reason to go there. The vast majority of travel is because they're is an underlying reason to travel.
Yes, opening an extra lane on the highway will often result in more cars taking the highway, BUT they are now taking the highway instead of the side streets and back roads. The total capacity of travel between A and B is still increased.
This must have been a pain to animate
Ayyy Tommo
Somones had this in their recommended
3rd on checkmark
Wow really didn't expect to see you here, of all people
@@eoghanburke2581 nor did I can't believe it truthfully
0:13 You know what this reminds me of ? A train !
The boys fans when they see the color blue:
LESSON LEARNED: JUST HIT THE CHICKEN TO AVOID TRAFFIC
i think this is gonna get popular.
@@kylaxial same lel
nO
I was actually thinking about it
Logik
"That's the simple solution to traffic, getting humans to change their behavior"
So it's rather an impossible task, rather than a simple solution.
we have to make the street uncrossable for pedestrians to unlock the "simple solution to traffic"
You are literally everywhere
So true, so true…
Simple solution... pedestrianise every town and City and put the car park 2 miles out of town
This, if we could adjust the problem to fit our solutions, literally every solution would work
"always in the middle" = I left a gap that everyone else is now exploiting and cutting me off
Yep. Leave a gap, someone cuts in, leave a gap again, someone else cuts in... It's almost like you're moving backwards after 10 cars pull that nonsense.
Exactly! You have to drove like a deranged a hole not to get cut off all the time. Drive safe and polite and you just get cut off.
And even on one lane roads: you position yourself in the middle, then the one in the back comes closer, so you accelerate to be in the middle, it repeats, and hey, you’re now tailgating.
@@JuliuszCovers solution, maintain a 2 seconds gap to the car in front, which you INCREASE to 3-4 seconds if you get tailgated from behind.
That is exactly what I was thinking.
Grey: self-driving cars can accelerate at the same time
everyone, apparently, in the comment section: *_it's a train_*
Except unlike actual trains, the self-driving cars can act independently, taking everyone to their actual homes, instead of stopping at a station 5+km away.
@@AaronCMounts that's where you bring in efficient urban planning :)
@@emmanuel1547 are you referring to, multi-floor, stack-pack housing, where no one can own their own place because we're all living in apartments? Not looking forward to a 'neighborhood' where everyone hears everyone else's toilet flushes and **ahem** "lively discussions".
@@AaronCMounts Most walls and floors are internally soundproofed.
@@AaronCMounts If the transit network is dense enough, most of the city would be in walking distance of stations.
These solutions always end up excluding humans from the equation 😂
That’s because humans are nowhere near perfect so when looking for a perfect or close to solution it will never include humans.
@@frankbank8720 AI meanwhile is perfectly wrong.
AI is perfect, but it's designer isn't. If you program an AI to drive forward and not collide with cars, but there's a person in front of it, it will carry out it's program perfectly.
If a wheel falls off, it will keep driving, even if that later results in it sharply turning left the next time it slows down at a traffic crossing.
AI is perfection made by the imperfect.
@@happydemon3038 if you think at all of the possible situations that can occur and prepare the AI for all with programming, to make AI's inability to adapt unimportant, its perfection makes the performance maximum.
I heard a wonderful quote from a motorcycle instructor: "a motorcycle is a wonderful, safe piece of machinery, until you put us monkeys on it"
@@frankbank8720 And then you have forgotten the pedestrians!
a lot of people are selfish drivers that cause traffic problems. all roads require teamwork to keep vehicles flowing.
Livereater00 who cares about vehicles behind them seriously
polite drivers also often cause traffic for example there is a T junction there is 1 car waiting at the bottom of the T and 20 cars traveling across the T but the the 3rd car traveling across the T feeling bad for that 1 car stops in the middle of the road to let that one car merge this causes undue traffic for the remaining 16 cars another phantom intersection 1 good doesn't undo 16 wrongs
What if you're the selfish driver?
This is literally exactly what I think about every time I drive. The phantom intersection thing is so true
Joey Zoota-Lucero so do i !!
It's something I've instinctually known since I first started to drive but my goal these days is to stop my annoyance.
I can't make other people drive properly so, when I inevitably get caught by these slow fools at a traffic light, I take a breath and accept it because it will continue to happen but I have no control over it (only over my reactions).
stupid ass people thats what they are
If only everybody could see what happens ~5-10 cars in front of them, right?
667th like.
“A simple solution to traffic” is an ironic title seeing how in his best way to fill a plane video he says that a simple answer is usually wrong.
Yo will need to have self-driving pedestrians to cross the self-driving streets.
footbridges and pedestrian lanes: cool
@@JohnPaulBuce so you have to cross several bridges to buy groceries. That's a nice cardio, you just have to convince disabled and elderly people.
@@JackTheMurderer among us
@@JackTheMurderer then get a self driving disabled and elderly people, problem solved
Drive a motobike? Imean we could just make multiple public motorbike stations like bus stations that would constantly carry ppl to other side like boats.
CGP Grey’s solution to everything
Step 1: get rid of humans
Step 2: prosper
Kinda, more like let robots take the jobs tasks that our monkey brain can only do so good.
Step 3: profit
Why did this get so many likes?
3. Get rid of chicken crossing the streets
Polulation reduction yaaay
So the chicken crossed the road just to fuck up traffic? guess that answers that
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Houston we have a solution!
I mean, if I was a chicken I'd probably do the same.
Golden!
I write 5 years from the future and I am so glad that the nirvana of self driving cars has enveloped us right on schedule and traffic has ceased to exist and the underfunding of public transport has had zero negative impacts because we have driverless cars.
I wish i was dutch
"Stay in the middle" doesn't work when the person behind you is tailgating no matter what//other people just fill the gaps in front
Yeah that's his point
I work near London and if there is a space big enough for a car, some cunt is going to squeeze his car in that gap no matter what. And then 5 minutes later I'm overtaking him and thinking, was all the aggressive driving to gain nothing even worth it?
@@milkysue5496 that is infuriating. Idiots abound everywhere. Same here in NY.
@@milkysue5496 happens all the time in any medium to large city. Some people just have such large egos or whatever that they like to pretend they are racing the other cars in traffic. Thats my theory at least. It explains why some angry backwards cap dude will aggressively go around you at a red light just to get into the lane with one less car in it and then he gets mad when the light switches to green and the lane he switched into is slow, and then starts raging when 3 people don't allow him to cut them all off so he can merge back into the lane he has to be in.
That feeling when you want to thumb up the video just to notice that you already did...
Me too!
Me Too, on the family tree video
two thumbs up
Happens to me with comments as well.
The feeling when you want to thumb up this comment but notice you already did...
The funniest thing about this is that now standing in traffic will annoy me more because i now understand why it happens...
I can confirm that driving gets way way worse when you realize 90% of traffic is caused by unskilled, unintelligent, distracted drivers
Traffic= NOSEY people. Clearly one does not stop to help; therefore, just move and keep on driving. Too many busybodies. Again. Traffic is the result of NOSEY PEOPLE.
How are you standing in traffic??
YES!!!
>Standing in traffic
>"I now understand why it happens"
So you're the chicken standing in the middle of the road?
Oh yes, creating a system that allows for even more cars on the road is obviously the perfect solution.
Self driving cars lead to less cars. Just because a car drives itself doesn't mean I will now buy three. In fact, I will most likely ditch the second car since now I can just call for it to pick me up, and when I am done, I can now send it to pick up any other family member. In fact, I don't even need to own one since I can just timeshare with a pool of people sharing the cost. Even if the car itself costs 100k, I could chip in along with 10 family members and have personal transportation ready to go.
@@cyberlord64 I never said anything about owning multiple cars.
@@cyberlord64 Use Uber then
@@cyberlord64 would you like your car to come with pre-ordered rubbish and horrible smells? i thought the point was personal comfort? and eaxctly how are 10 of you going to a 9-5 job at the same time in one car? uh oh, i forgot to buy the eggs, got to wait 2 hours to finish my cake.
Just destroy every car in front of you.
You can't have traffic if your're the only one driving.
This is big brain time
Modern problems...
Dio had a quote about this
Your're
@@torgranael require modern solutions : just get rid of humans.
everyone's talking about how Grey neglects to think of the invention known as trains but I am more interested in how Grey doesn't see how humans fit into a society like that... Like where in the ever loving heck to do pedestrians go? And do these citizens NEED a self driving car to get anywhere meaningful? I think Grey needs to remember that modern urban sprawl in cities like LA are TOXIC to ordinary citizens... the solution is things like higher density cities that are walkable! Delta roads with trams and lanes for bikes. You cant automise something like traffic as large populations that each own their small tank on the road are what it is causing traffic!
He said no intersections, crosswalks still exist. Self driving cars can stop for pedestrians and carry on afterwards without issue.
@@Winasaurus having self driving cars being the dominant type of car is literally a recipe for disaster.
@@dyobodraode2554 why?
@@Daniel-uo9mh it's extremely vulnerable to hacks. If we had a road dominated by these cars, people could hack a few and create chaos.
@@dyobodraode2554 you can do the same with normal cars dumbass. just get like 4 normal cars to crash and you have done the same thing
I thought you were gonna say:
"Just keep driving lmao
He kinda said that a little bit
Moo
Just keep swimming swimming swimming~
WHERE, IS, THE, OTHER, QUOTATION MARK????????
That’s basically it, drive like you have somewhere to be... the red light point is so real. I’m not sure what takes people so long to move their foot down. When I’m the first one at a light and it turns green I go and look back and the car behind me is like 6 car lengths back and just starting to go. Like it’s not hard, green = move ya shit.
I used to race karts back in the 70s. One of the biggest fields I raced in was at the National championships - around 60 karts in each heat, all lined up on a grid four abreast. When the flag dropped it was a given that everyone hit the throttle flat out. Mostly this worked just fine and within ten seconds everyone was safely underway. But when something went wrong, like a kart at the front stalling, all hell would let loose with smashed karts, injured drivers and a red flagged race. This is why road drivers don’t all set off together, although cooperating self driving cars could.
When traffic levels reach a certain point the flow gets chaotic. I suspect this would still be the case even with self driving cars if they were only coordinating with near neighbours.
Self driving cars won't fix traffic. Providing viable, attractic alternatives to cars fixes traffic, as walking/cycling/public transit all have way better space efficiency.
solution? build more trains.
@@wren_. The problem with all mass transport is that it doesn’t start and finish where you need it or at exactly the time you need. There has to be some other compelling reason to use it, planes being the obvious example.
@@Tailspin80 The compelling reason is not being in traffic
@@Keykhosrau So unless you live right next to the bus stop or station how do you get there? We live in a normal sort of a house a couple of miles from the nearest station. Long walk, taxi ride, cycle… nothing quite as quick or convenient as climbing into the car in the drive. Traffic not much of a problem unless you live in the middle of a large city, particularly with WFH.
Morale of the story: *just run over chickens crossing the road*
Exactly, the Dynamite gets it
😂😂😂
but still there will be someone who will pick up the dead chicken to cook and eat it😂😂
this is actually the only right thing you can do if somebody is driving close behind you, if not you can try to hit the brakes
🤣🤣
Disclaimer : This solution is not applicable in India.
Lol
U r right
lol ur right
it is possible in metro cities but in *Dehati* regions.... not possible
@@IamDryEuropa dehati mtlb?
it's funny that in german a snake (schlange) also means queue..
a long queue is a _lange schlange_
123TeeMee
Is there german for "Longe Schlonge"?
Some Dude I literately lololol
Some Dude I ALREADY APOLOGIZE FOR THIS INFORMATION OVERLOAD!!
Well in austrian dialect(viennese dialect wich is you guessed it spoken in vienna) there is such a thing as: "wos für a longe schlongan"(mind you that this sentemce is grammatically incorrect) and its mostly said by grumpy old man who like to complain a lot. Its rare under younger people to hear this sentence(im one of the younger people but you hear it a lot (older people ya know there a lot i work at a supermarket)). Oh and it means something along the lines of: "OH MY GOD THIS LINE IS SO BIG WHAT THE FUCK IS(or was it depends) TAKING SO LONG!!"
Queue means dick in french just sayin
*Public Transit* has left the chat
What did we learned today? If there ever is a chicken crossing the road, do not brake!
You also now learnt that its spelt “brake” not “break”
@@HassanPoyo thank you. For finding this comment
Plus you get dinner for free
(Although if I were you.......I'd try to remove the tire Marks on it......they give a bad ambience and taste to the dish)
And what if it's a moose?
@@pdebie1982 that's why 4×4 offroading SUVs exist
The simple solution to solve traffic is *_to remove the human part of it_*
edit: guys i said this as a joke why are you all conspiring down in the reply section
Agree. The problem isnt the cars but the assholes driving it
i like removing humans from the equation. less stupidity moar winz.
I hear you, but then again if we remove the humans from the equation then we wouldn't need all the cars. We'd still need goods vehicles though, trucks and vans etc.
How about banning cars altogether wherever possible given the damage they are doing to the planet?
“No man, no problem”
Full quote: Death is the solution to all problems. No man, no problem. (Joseph Stalin)
*Me who doesn't even has a car *: hmm... Interesting!
I was interested and I'm 14 lol
Lego mayham same
Its better to know before you get a car so you're prepared
Same, getting my permit once my blue slip arrives
Same
I wonder if CGP Grey still agrees with his 'solution' here.
of course, he hasn't stopped being american
@@LiamC328 He lived in London when he made this.
A bunch of cars working together in a chain... genius! If only someone had thought of this before.
It's called a train xD
Oh, what a brilliant idea. 😂
@@toukoenriaze9870 Trains don’t break off at 40 different locations and then keep going on entirely different routes.
Thanos was just trying to reduce traffic jams all along
:'(
There's truly nothing like being in a traffic jam for converting over to Thanos's cause
z beeblebrox Traffic truly makes you think things.
@@cheesecakelasagna *after Infinity War:* Jesus Christ, what lunatic thinks it's a good idea to kill an entire half of the universe?!
*later, stuck in traffic:* I mean...it's ONLY half
Thanos • No
2:46 “tailgating is trouble”
F150 drivers take note
ALWAYS F150 drivers!!! With their damn high-beams on too.
@Nylthanyr IV not when they blind others smh
Welcome to tennessee
@@chaoslord8918 ALWAYS WITH THE HIGH BEAMS!!! those were the bane of my existence when i drove at night for a living
Bmw drivers :
***SWEATY NOTE TAKING***
I think it is high time CGP acknowledged that he was on the wrong sides on this one. The future of cities is not disgusting avalanches of boxes choking up living space, it's obviously densified living space and public transit.
Why am I watching this. I dont even have a license...
So when you eventually do, you'll be ready.
yes
What if I never
Maybe for a reason...
I have It but I’m scared to drive lmfao
Video: shows a highway with 4 lanes and people driving in their lanes
Me, an Indian: Impossible
Relatable asf
Same with the Philippines, I did not even know lanes existed until I saw a typical road picture, if I remember correctly XD mostly made up of intersections, not highways
Same in pakistan
Same in Nigeria
True
"I dream of a better world, where chickens can cross the road without being quested for their motives."
But...Why DID the chicken cross the road? It’s one of the great mysteries of life.
@@AdamsBrew78 to start a traffic jam
Secret Agent Randy Beans Cowabunga chicken simulator on roblox
Nice one.
I'm more worried about the squirrels that cause accidents and high five each other. 🐿🐿
4:05 Pedestrians: am i a joke to you?
You have just convinced me that self driving cars are a bad idea. It would just lead to more cars, not fewer, untill be get back to the old problem but worse.
And even if it does work like he says, it would cause even more air pollution
@@leonpaelinck Neither of your statements are true for a multitude of reasons. It would lead to fewer cars that were not owned by individuals, but instead being used my several people while driving much more hours per day than your monkey car.
Air pollution is also a non issue because self driving technology is complemented much better by electric drivetrains with their extremely predictable traits.
@@novacolonel5287 because electricity is renowned for not causing any air pollution in its production
@@scottwhitman9868 plus the space cars take up increases air pollution because of the production of the materials used to house the cars
@@scottwhitman9868 That wasn't really the point though. The point is that the pollution production is eliminated from the cars themselves and instead it is reliant on the cleanliness of the electricity production itself. You eliminate one problem by handling it to one corner, then solve that problem. So as long as the electricity production itself is coming from renewable sources like Wind, solar, hydro, and when it eventually happens.. Fusion. then the entire supply chain of energy production and usage would be totally clean.
There is always one idiot on the road
Clever Gamer agree
Clever Gamer I disagree. there's way more than one
Those idiots have to be made driver less first.
We're *all* idiots sometimes. I don't know a single person who can honestly say they've never been distracted or made some poor split-second decisions while driving.
There is also always this one jackass that presses his brakes constantly even though nothing at all is in front of him, forcing you behind him to have to press it with him because you don't know if he is really going to stop this time.
Swears these fools are the most annoying things to see.
i try to keep the space between me and the car in front but there's always that one idiot that thinks they can switch lanes onto the space.
Honk really loudly and ram them off the road.
I'm not say that doing so would be a legal or okay thing to do, but it what they would deserve.
That's what I keep saying. Good drivers end up last
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About to post something like this. There are always morons who are clueless at how traffic works thinking that they're some kind of l33t driver by doing stupid shits on the road.
idk... I often take evasive maneuvers to get around slow af drivers and easily reach 80+ mph in congested areas zooming past all of the idiots that don't know what tf the left lane is meant for.
A positive behavior YOU can employ now, is to actually give extra room to the vehicle in front of you. Driving slightly slower than traffic in order to create a gap to the car in front of you, and then driving at the speed of traffic means that you (and by extension everyone behind you) have several extra seconds to react to potential pre-jam behavior from the car in front, all while only inconveniencing people behind you of no more than a few additional seconds of travel time. This extra space can allow the beginnings of an actual jam to resolve themselves before cascading into a total traffic stoppage that propagates down the line. A few people doing this every fifty cars or so can significantly buffer against traffic ever stopping entirely.
Isn't that exactly what he means with "always in the middle"?
Unfortunately, while your solution is reasonable, this would require people to practice the skill of "delayed gratification." Specifically, people would have to be willing to trade off a couple of seconds of faster travel up front for smoother sailing for the entire journey as a whole. And from experience, the practice of delaying instant gratification is something that a distressingly large number of people seem to struggle with immensely.
"Back in the day, it would take me a whole TWENTY MINTUES to get to school" *grandkids gasp* "we had this thing called Traffic..."
The fact that this might actually be a thing
Grandpa why didn't you just teleport?
you have summoned the whole long commute gang to tell you 20 minutes is really short.
@@AAAAAA-qs1bv :0 like one of those take the train people ?
@@vishnutheetharappan7074 oh ho ho, kids, that's because they didn't invent magic yet. Back in my day, we didn't have a school called Hogwarts
Imagine how drastically a single chicken could change the future .
It might change time 😲
To go to the other side
Never underestimate chickens power.
But why did it cross the road
@@xhantTheFirst it had ligma
So taking humans out of any equation equals instant success.
I'm pretty sure insurance companies in their deathroes would object to progress.
It does - pretty much anything can work if you take human control (or lack thereof) out of the equation.
Safe and efficient roads? Check
99.99% efficiency in all practical aspects of society? Check
Communist utopia? Check
An insurance company's best customer is one who pays their monthly premium without ever having to file a claim on damage or loss.
The question is, would you still want auto insurance for a self driving car?
i doubt everyon single car would be self driving, and even if they were, then there are still options to allow human error, like if the human took controll. system clitches, or satelite malfunctions could cause even more chaos than normal crashes.
ItsMeStalin - Stalin TV I suspect it would be a case of "I, Robot", the officer getting penalized for taking control away from the AI. If a human driver took control and caused an accident, they would face prosecution.
yep
The united states, a car obsessed country, needs to be more locomotive-centric.
They were once...😢
i remember in kindergarten when my class lined up to walk somewhere i would think about how much quicker we could get out of the classroom if we all started moving at the same time
Bruh stop tryna get likes we all know this ain’t real
@@darthbob8428 The joke is you now look way dumber than him haha
@@af57162 Um ok zoomed
@@darthbob8428 Do you want to try again with your reply?
@@darthbob8428 Proof?
This is sounding an awful lot like trains
Yes a train that will go anywhere which would be nice.
Except a train won't pick you up at your house when you want to go, then take you back (or anywhere else when you want to go). Let's not forget the trips that most people have to make just to get to/from the train.
@@dospesentas Have you heard of walking, cycling, taking a bus, a tram, the metro or any other form of public transportation?
@@gulagkid799 not everyone can bike or walk.
@@sebastiandomingos335 ride your wheel chair to X place then
The simplest solution would be for everyone to not leave their house.
Yeah if you just stay home then there will be no cars, and thus no traffic.
The simplest solution would be for everyone to not be born.
That did not age well
@@AuraBloodrose this was yesterday??
The simplest solution would be if we monkey
It's funny how traffic "experts" know the pattern right before congestion happens yet still manage to get the big picture source wrong. How hard is it to realize that when too many people head in the same direction at the same time, obviously there is going to be a clump somewhere?
*Moral of the story*
_Traffic = You get eaten by snAke_
❗
Am I in a snake’s stomach!?
AAAAA AAAAAA AAAAA AAAAA AAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAA
@@spingleboygle no u were pooped out when the traffic ended
Moral of the story: just run over the chicken
Lmao 😂
Lmao 😂
Lmao 😂 (1)
Your dumbass didn't even watch the whole video, did you? He spoke about the phantom chicken right after, where changing lanes causes jams.
Hrishi Baney This is obviously a joke...
The problem with staying "in the middle" of two cars or staying 2 seconds apart from the car infront of you (learned this from my driving instructor) will just make it more likely that some driver will "take advantage" of this space and overtake you and place their car infront of you and the car that was infront of you and now you have to slow down because you're now not 2 seconds apart. It's a vicious circle.
Pretty soon you're driving backward.
an unfortunate consequence, but you're both still moving towards the same destination and if you do use the 2-second-rule, the brake check is considerably mitigated than if you decided to tailgate the car in front of you to prevent some asshole cutting in front of you suddenly
alternatively, you give no space and the driver who actually needs the lane will need to force their way in, causing a delay in their existing lane.
You can legally crash onto them ya know, just to teach a lesson
This is a driving culture problem IMO. Just based on my experiences living in 3 countries (Malaysia, Thailand, and the Philippines).
Traffic far, far more predictable in Malaysia tend to stay in their lanes and move when necessary...most of the time. Also people generally only overtake in the inner lanes.
But in Thailand, things get a bit more messy but still predictable. Overtaking is left or right, doesn't matter. But, you can still also just maintain your speed without needing to "defend" your position from the car in front of you.
In the Philippines...Ohhhhh boy. People drive like they're participating in a race. Maybe there's a reward in the end, who knows? But it sure seem like it. Any gap left between you and the car in front will be exploited. No one stays in their lane. Overtaking every vehicle along the path. I asked a driver why does everyone overtake everyone, he said some cars are going slow so just overtake them. It'll be faster.
There's an irony to this... the same distance takes up to 4 times longer in the Philippines than it does in Malaysia. Because traffic is so unpredictable, they're all driving slower. And because traffic is so predictable in Malaysia, people tend to overspeed and drive up to 80 or sometimes even a 100 kmh in the streets. The same type of streets, traffic in Philippines go from 40 - 60 kmh because of the mess. Had they just stay in their lanes and follow a rhythm, traffic would go faster because it's more predictable and no one has to "defend" their position.
Just my thoughts.
I have been in many countries where the simple red/amber/green light is replaced by a countdown of how long it will remain at that stage. I never knew if this solved the distraction problem as drivers had a better idea of how long they needed to wait.